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February 13, 2023 32 mins
Scott Schwebke comes on the show to talk about his jailhouse interview with the man charged with killing a doctor in Dana Point. What is going on in Portland? San Francisco is thinking about instituting a red light district. Don't go to certain parts of Mexico right now.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, roll along for two hours. We were on from
one to four.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
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coming up around three point twenty. Big story recently and

(00:26):
just an awful story, was an emergency room doctor who
was riding his bicycle on Pacific Coast highly and Dana Point.
He was rammed into by a motorist, the Long Beach
Man by the name of Van Roy Evans Smith. And
then what happened after that even more horrific. Smith got
out of the car and stabbed the doctor and he died.

(00:46):
His terrible, terrible story that came out of Orange County
and the update on it which came Friday. The doctor's
name is Michael John Mamoni and the man behind this,
according to who Arresting Police, is being held on a
million dollars bail in jail in Orange County. And he

(01:09):
decided and agreed to do a jail house interview with
the Southern Californian Newsgroup reporter, and we reported on this
story Friday when the story first came out, he basically
confessed to the crime and then went off on one
mentally deranged rant. We're going to bring on the reporter
now behind the story for the Southern California News Group,
Scott Schwebke, is going to talk to us about this

(01:31):
whole experience.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
You could read it in the Orange County Register. Scott,
how are you hey?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
How are you? Thanks for having me?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
How did you get the interview with him?

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well? I wish, I wish I had some elaborate, pulking
dadder story and tell you I made an appointment, went
down like any citizen, showed my driver's license and went
into the interview booth, and he came down and we
chatted for about.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
An hour, and nobody else tried this.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I guess not. I don't know. I mean, I kept
thinking something's bound to go wrong, you know, I'm bound
to get you know, kicked out of here or something.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
But I didn't we didn't know you, or he wasn't
aware of you or knew you at all.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
He didn't know me before until I you know, obviously
when he sat down, identified myself and told her who
I was and what I was doing and that thing.
He was, you know, very candid and willing to talk.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
And no and no lawyer got in the way.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Uh nope, just me and him, and even towards the end,
the guards that I could keep talking longer. I guess.
I mean, I wasn't you know, I did I you know,
I I just I just went in as a as
a regular visitor and did all the things that you're
supposed to do. And then this interviewed the guy.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So this may sound like TV stuff, but is he
really behind glass on a phone talking to you or
how to what's the setup?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, it's it's behind a glass. He's on the phone.
I couldn't take any pet or pen or anything or
any kind of recording device, so I had to commit
this whole rambling interview to the memory. So as soon
as I got out of there, I scrambled and got
my notepad and wrote down everything that I remembered.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
So what was it? A demeanor?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
He was lucid, very lucid, very straightforward. Didn't really he
answered like every question that I asked. Obviously rambled quite
a bit. I had to get him back on track
to you know, the salient points of this whole unfortunate
incident or even an incident, unfortunate crime. I'm obviously sad,

(03:38):
sad crime. But yeah, he was lucid, and he talked
a lot about religion and some of his background, and
he is. The main takeaway is he believes he's God
and Jesus Christ, and he was entitled to commit murdered.
If the folks knew who he was, they'd let him

(03:58):
out of jail because he's the Siah of the King
of Kings, he describes himself.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
So when he said he was the Messiah, the King
of kings, did he proclaim this or he talked in
a matter of fact conversation away.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, I mean it was in conversational all way, but
I mean he did proclaim it, and he believes he
is actually, actually actually that person, so he thinks that
he is he is a messiah.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
There's one, by the way, when he when he talked
about what he apparently he's confessing to what he did
that day. Was there any reason that he picked this
this particular bicyclist, and can you tell us any more
of that?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
No reason other than he said that he did. He
woke up that day and he fully expected to kill somebody.
He's been having communications from others. I don't know if
it means telepathically. I don't think it means they phoned
him up or anything, but that, you know, telling him
to do do certain things. And the communications have been

(05:05):
ongoing for for quite a while. And he, like, like
I said, he woke up that day expected to Philly
kill somebody. He was it was. It was going to
be a man, because he said he wouldn't kill a woman.
He put a baby gun in his car to distract
whoever his intended victim was. He went down to a

(05:26):
gun store and Wan Beacheria bought a long knife. And
the reason he uh, he he believes, you know, he
was entitled to a to a knif because there's a
scripture in the Gospel of Luke that says he they
had the sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

(05:47):
So he believed that was the that was the proper
thing to do. And he also considered using a bow
and arrow and the attack that ultimately decided against it.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
He considered, well, he felt compelled to kill Mamoni as
soon as he saw him on the bike.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Can he describe how he felt.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, he said he felt He said he felt like
a bit of an out of body experience, but he
felt he felt compelled and he saw the person, you know,
the person the doctor in the crosswalk, and that he
knew that that was the person he was. He was
he was supposed to kill that day, and so he

(06:30):
went ahead with it.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
He even talked about his his attack is small compared
to all the murders that happened, even mentioned the Turkey earthquake.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, he said that, Yeah, he he believes his his
one murder is small compared to all the murders that
are going to happen down the line. He didn't say
exactly through through who, but he he did say that, well,
even Jesus has killed thousands of people in the Turkey
Turkey earthquakes. My one, my one murder is fairly insignificant.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
And he did comment on reports that at the scene
people heard him talk about white privilege and maybe he
yelled out some racial slurs or something.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Did he elaborate on that.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, he denied the racial slur. He did. He did
said he made one homophobic kind of a slur against
an individual, it was getting too close to him, it
was subduing him at the scene. But he denied making
any racial slurs. Actually he's uh, he's mixed race. He's

(07:34):
black and white, and he said that's caused a lot
of trouble for him from both sides. So he didn't
he didn't specifically talk about he said he did instant
we talk about race when he was being subdued. So
I don't know, I don't know where that where those
allegations came came from. We haven't been able to confirm that.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he now he was diagnosed apparently with paranoid schizophrenia
and bipolar disorder, but he denied to you that he
had any mental illnesses.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, he denied that, and he didn't really go into
much much detail about it. But obviously, you know, talking
to him and listening to him for an hour ramble
on about receiving communications from people telling him to do
things and that kind of thing, obviously there's there's there
seems to be some kind of a problem there.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So when he when he rambled, because an hour is
a long time, uh, and I imagine he did most
of the talking. It was he always veered into this
stuff about religion, the Messiah and the Messiah, and and
and and nothing else, nothing about his life, his background,
his family.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, he talked about Oh, he was he was born
in Jamaica and he came over I think it was
in soon after two thousand and eight. He married a
woman from the US who was over there, and he
came over. He worked, He worked as a janitor briefly
that he started working, and he's a junior, junior employee

(09:04):
in an investment firm. I think. I don't think he
was ever a top level executive. And then he most
recently opened his tax preparation and accounting firm and long
Beach we talked a little bit about that, and he
talked about, uh, you know, being in jail has given
him a chance, he says, to clear his mind, has
got him away from some of the devices that have

(09:30):
taken hold of his life in the last few years,
including uh, excess drinking, marijuana, youth, and seeing prostitutes. So
he says he's away from that stuff now he's in jail.
He actually said he feels more at peace in jail
now that he did when he was out. So, yeah,
it's hard to figure.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Did you feel uncomfortable talking to him.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I've done this a long time, you know, and I've
talked to criminals before, and I've talked to folks in jail.
I've never had anybody confess to me. I just tried
to more or less listen to him, and he was
behind plexic collapse. I didn't feel too threatened or anything.
I think he felt comfortable talking to me, and that's
why he opened up. So I'm not terribly I was

(10:18):
just trying to remember everything he was saying. That was
the main thing. I was happy to go back, you
know and ask me things a couple of times to
make sure I had it down right. So that was
the main focus, is trying trying to listen and get
the story.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, did he maintain eye contact with you?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Or oh yeah, wid right at me and yeah we
had I mean, it was a pretty pre flowing conversation.
It wasn't He wasn't reluctant or or hesitant, which made
it a lot easier than some of the other interviews
I've done from folks in jail before.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, Scott, we really appreciate you coming on and telling
us about the experience. A great work can read this,
so AE kind of registered Southern California news group. This
is reporter of Stanch Webke, who interviewed, thank you very
much for coming on.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Sometimes, yeah, sometimes.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
If you just show up. All he did about that
called and said give it a shot, Give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
And the long beach man who was accused of killing
the Dana Point doctor by running them over on the
road and then stabbing him to death, agreed to this
jailhouse interview and confessed to the reporter. We just talked
to Scott Schwebke. More coming up, Johnny n K. I
am six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, Well, one of these.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Stories recently ran in the Elsa Gundo Times, and you
just gotta love it because you know the way they
approach the story. The headline, what's the matter with Portland shootings,
theft and other crime test the city's progressive strains. It's remarkable.
Who is this reporter? Jenny Jarvi Jenny Jarthy, their national correspondent,

(11:47):
did this long story on Portland. You know, it's not
that big a city, and for them to have thousands
of homeless people, that really is it's six hundred and
forty one thousand people. They have over six thousand homeless.
You know that's a big proportion.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I hate to be repetitive, but again, you will get
a homeless problem in proportion to the amount of tolerance
what you allow. The less you enforce the law, the
more bad stuff you're gonna get. And progressivism may be
the stupidest ideology philosophy to govern a city that God

(12:24):
ever created.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I mean, it is so destructive.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
The Germans in World War Two didn't do as much
damage as what these progressives are doing to these once
beautiful cities on the West Coast. It is incredible and
they stick to it, which is the sign of a
religious cult. When everything in your life is screaming, oh
my God, this doesn't work, this is horrible, this is bad,

(12:49):
and well I'm gonna do it anyway because this is
the way I feel. Then you're in a religious cult.
Your brain is seized up and died.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
This is one of those situations where it's almost amazing
that The Times even did this half hearted story, because
often when because Fox News loves to highlight Portland, San
Francisco's problems, and the other side of the media likes
to say, oh, they exaggerate, Oh, they jerry pick, but
they actually sent the reporter there to ask people. The

(13:16):
first person they talked to was a woman that's fed up.
They've dumb feces and used syringes in my yard. They
play music at three am. They stripped the stolen cars
for parts. We fill abandoned we pair taxes. The police
are not watching over security. But the second person, Juniper Simonis.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
This is what I'm talking about. This crazy person.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
She rents a home across the street from one of
the big encampments, and she says, by the way her
front yard had signed disarmed, defend, defund, and dismantle the police.
And she's against sweeps, she's against any trying to regulate
homelessness out of a city. I don't view that as
liberal as all. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, the problem is not that Portland is too liberal.
It's not liberal enough.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
They want even more money. That's what that's and that
is how this argument always goes. We're not spending enough money.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
But you see it's beyond I despise it being well.
One side says this, and one side says that use
your eyes. Look out there yourself. With your eyes, you've
seen all the money, all the programs you've seen a
complete lack of enforcement.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
There's your result.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
You have enormous piles of feces and needles, and people
dying and drug addiction and mental illness.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You lose. The issue is decided.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Now the question is do you have the survival instincts
as a city to end the insanity? Do you We
talked about how individuals lose lose their survival instincts. I
think sometimes societies lose their survival instincts.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now, when you in this crowd that we're talking about
in Portland, they want to do it without any enforcement.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Sure, I'd like to solve.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The homelessness problem, but there can't be any enforcement used.
These people need to be gently talked to and if
it takes years to get them to leave their encampments,
we'll just.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Have to tolerate. Here's the results, and these are real.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It doesn't matter what news organization is producing these numbers,
these are the actual facts. The homeless has jumped from
four thousand to sixty six hundred in three years. Shootings
have tripled, homicides went from thirty six to ninety seven
in three years. A record lower level crimes went from

(15:32):
sixty five hundred stolen cars in twenty nineteen to eleven thousand,
say a double the number of stolen cars in three years.
You had the homicides almost triple, You had the homeless
go up by more than fifty percent. So this is
not a political debate, right, This doesn't work. This creates

(15:56):
disaster and misery, and it's really disgusting and gross, and
no wants to live like this. So who cares if
the lady with all her acute little signs on the
front lawn feels a certain way about the police.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
They talked to John Torren, the black owner of a
construction company, born and raised in Portland. I mean, this
guy kind of figured it out. He said, people are
now feeling less safe. The city has to respond. Progressive
means something different now when I was growing up. When
I think of progressive, now I think of extremism. That's
a good word for it. That's kind of what it is.
It's over the edge extremism. And he's a guy that's

(16:30):
and there's more of them in Portland than there used
to be. Are saying enough of this howl, You're not
going down this path anymore?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
How could you debate.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
This Seriously, how is there a debate and the people
who are trying to debate it, don't you have to
question their mental stability?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh and I love this the dopey mayor. Did we
throw them in the dumpster? Is that? Ted Wheeler? Yes,
cities across.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
The nation are all seeing homelessness. We need more state
and federal safety nets.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
That's it. Just more money, no the cities.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's the annual city spending for homeless house and services
since he's been mayor just five years, went from twenty
seven million to ninety four million.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
And you got your money. Shut up, you tripled, you
tripled the money. You doubled the homelessness. Again, just use
facts not the answer, right, Okay? Because the homeless, nonprofits
and the government are filled with criminals who are siphoning
off the money. I mean, at some point you're listening.
These people are just fools. They're raving fools.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
They went really down the hole when we got to
twenty twenty, and it was all the unrest because the
anarchists took over Portland, they took over Seattle, and that
just added to the problem with the homelessness.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
And the anarchists are involved in all these activist groups.
Oh yeah, fighting right, and so they got what they wanted.
They destroyed Portland. I saw one survey that said three
quarters of people, three quarters of them who live in
the metro area, refused to go to downtown Portland.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So the activist won all these holmost advocates.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
You win because like California lost a net three hundred
and fifty thousand people, same thing happened in Portland. The
normal people left and they've left your shore.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
We got more coming up. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty.
We're alive everywhere in the iHeartRadio app Well. One of
the stories that popped up in the last one, we're
just talking about Portland. Now we'll move down a little
bit and talk about San Francisco, which has had its
collection of problems with the homeless and drug use. This
one is another aspect of life in San Francisco. It's
the growing problem of prostitution on the streets. The city

(18:40):
is actually considering this. At least one supervisor has voice
the idea of establishing. Her name is Hillary Ronan a
red light district in San Francisco. Right now, they're trying
to do something about some particular streets where apparently the
hookers hang out and the drivers just cruise by all
hours of the night looking for a hookup. So they're

(19:04):
closing off some streets. But there is a discussion, and
of course prostitution. No, no, no, these are sex workers.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know what? You what's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
At San Francisco and Portland get more and more disgusting
and dangerous. The only ideas that come out of legislators
is how can we make it more dangerous and more disgusting?
That they never spend publicly a minute on saying all right,
this has gone too far here.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
People are leaving in droves. It's like, what else can
we bring in?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Let's say we got the criminals running around right, cards
are getting stolen, people are getting beat up, lots of shoplifting,
we got people dying in the streets, lots of needles,
speces meth. I got an idea, let's bring in the prostitutes.
Oh good good, that'll spruce up the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you remember our conversations with doctor Monica Gandhi, Yes,
San Francisco Hospital.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You see San Francisco. I think she's a very.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Bright woman, and she was one of those who had
was the voice of reason during the lockdown, and she
was the term which I think was appropriate for the
COVID lockdowns harm reduction. Okay, this is another piece of jargon,
but that idea was, well, don't be heavy handed and
hard fisted on people. Let people make decisions for themselves
about masks and where they want to go, which made sense,

(20:24):
it was common sense. But they apply that same thing
to things like prostitution and drug use. They're like, oh no, no,
we're not going to try to limit the behavior. Let's
just see if we can reduce the harm associated with
the behavior. This is why they want to allow people
to shoot drugs right right in front of them. All right,
I'll stand by with the narcan. This is why with prostitution,

(20:46):
will give them a legal district where they can have
their johns come in and negotiate for a sexual hook out.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
But why don't they take it indoors?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Why do they allow all.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
This stuff outdoors to destroy neighborhoods. I mean, there are
people living in these neighborhoods, or there's businesses, or people
want to visit or just walk through if.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
You will, you're right, because I think it destroys the
quality of life for every course.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It does because one pathogen pathological behavior leads to another
pathological behavior. Right, if you let drunks lay in the street,
the drug addicts will come. You have the drug addicts
in the street, Well, the prostitutes are going to come well,
which means the criminals are going to come, which means
the mental patience and the methadicts are going to come. Right,
it's one big family. What I don't understand, and this

(21:31):
has been known for hundreds of years.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
The comparison, of course they're using is Amsterdam. I've been
to Amsterdam, and yes I did do a tour of
the red light district, but what that became is all
full of tourists. There is still the windows to the
houses or the hotels or whatever where the actual the
hookers do stand in the window there, But there's so
many tourists. I don't think it's a legitimate red light district.

(21:58):
Thats probably defined or anything, but example to the people
are just there because they're curious to see what it's like.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's more tourist than than there are men looking for
a hookups.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Do they have thousands of deranged drug addicts homeless addicts.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
In the streets. They did not not when I was there.
I didn't find that to be a problem, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And I think there are another one of these cities
that does allow for open drug use.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
What do you think is going to happen in San Francisco?
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
There's a little bit of Amsterdam. It's like, what you
shut up? Yeah, it's not in San Francisco. The current
state of life in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, I well, there's another story related to this, and
apparently it's not just San Francisco that's seeing an uptick
here in California. Of likely to describe this, women wearing
thongs in broad daylight on street corners, TIMPs following mothers
taking their kids to school, and prostitutes twerking at traffic
have become more common.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Scenes in California.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I've yet to run into this, but I maybe I'm
just not driving in the right neighborhoods lately.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
But this is going on Woodland Hills. I think this.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Remember the law that they passed which no longer made
it a crime to loiter, Remember all that, and that
was supposed to be to cut down on arresting, And
they said a lot of it dealt with transgender women
necessarily targeted.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Let me tell you, this is Scott Weener, who is
is a weirdo. Okay this Yeah, he's this emaciated looking
little weasel from San Francisco, and he writes laws and
gets them passed, and they're all about degrading public life.
And they often have like some sexual component to them.

(23:36):
There's there's something really creepy and weird about him, and
and and so, and then they always find some marginalized
group to use as a shield. So he thinks there
should be public prostitution because the old laws targeted disproportionately
transgender women.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't I don't even know where to begin with that.
I don't care. I just don't think there's one complaints.
So we decided to run with a law. Right.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't think anybody wants to live in a neighborhood
or have a business, or or even walk through the
neighborhood in a place where there's rampant prostitution. That's something
that should be done privately. With the Internet. There's no
reason for.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
This so here.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, he is so gross and disgusting, and he's
always about taking the worst elements of human nature and
enabling those worst elements to thrive in public in front
of other people.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Apparently, a Los Angeles police source said that the law
is definitely handcuffing them from cracking down on prostitution. Because
of this reform, they can only make rast of a
suspect admits to prostitution, which they said is pretty rare.
Other than that, they can't because this was one of
their tools they used to deter people from doing this.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You know, all they're doing is making areas uninhabitable, and
we're seeing it right. People are fleeing downtown Portland, fleeing
San Francisco, they're fleeing parts of California. They're just fleeing
because nobody wants to live like this. And at the
end of it, you will have a Detroit situation, and
Detroit never came back. You can destroy a city and

(25:13):
it never comes back, and you will look back twenty
years from now and say, my god, this is a shame.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is a travesty. But too late, it's dead. And
that's a comparison.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I've always used the way the russ Belt went, particularly
cities like Detroit. You're beginning to see it It's probably
gonna take a little longer and slower here because that
was much more about jobs. You know, this is the depression,
and the job's all moved out, but quality of life's
important to people, and they'll move out too.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
All right, We've got more coming up.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Johnny KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 2 (25:45):
If you missed any part of the show, you can
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people are probably planning, maybe there are spring break vacations
come out up and the State Department has issued one
of its sternest warnings ever not to travel to a

(26:07):
bunch of parts of Mexico Kolima, Guerrero, miko Con, Sinaloa,
and a couple of other states.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I can it's all over crime. Now.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
There's always problems with drug cartels and crime in that country,
but they sometimes step up, step up the it's the
Bureau of Consular Affairs. They say that there have been
shootings between warring gangs that have injured or killed bystanders,
kidnappings and also they're targeting a lot of people that

(26:38):
are a Green card holders or lawful permanent residents, along
with of course tourists. And we still don't know what
happened to that Orange County public defender Elliott Blair who
died while on vacation in Rosa Rito when he was
found at the bottom of a hotel balcony on the ground,
and family things said he was beaten and possibly thrown

(27:02):
over the balcony, saying he has a bunch of skull fractures,
and the Mexican official simply saying, looks like he got
drunk and fell so and the big story there was
that they reported they were victims of a shakedown by
police officers just an hour or two before.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That happened, when they were driving back to the hotel. Yeah,
I don't believe the Mexican police. I don't either.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's hard to imagine the amount of corruption and the
amount of violence and the infiltration of the cartels in
law enforcement and government throughout Mexico. I mean, it's really
some of it is a totally lawless society, and there's
no other nobody to go to if you're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, the other card that came into a play. They
just arrested last month of Vido Guzman. He's the son
of El Chapo Joaquin El Chopol Guzman, who's in a
United States a federal prison, felt a long term El
Chippo l chip off the old block. You right, the
father's El Chapel, the son's El Chippo.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's a good one. You just made that up. Just
made that up. It's pretty good on the fly. Uh.
He's the leader of the Asina Loa drug cartel.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
And the last time they captured him, I guess that
it's not gonna happen this time. Remember they took a
bunch of hostages and the decision was made to release him,
but they arrested him again. I you know, they go
back and forth in Mexico as to how to deal
well the drug cartel violence. Obviously, it employs people and
brings in money. Oh yeah, there's that side to side.

(28:33):
You can get it very violent to people lose their heads.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So well they're they're more violent. Uh there.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
There there's more psychos in in the drug cartels, right,
all all the psychos are on the side of the cartels.
There's more bad guys than there are good guys.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I think it pays better for psychos. Yeah, it is
great pay because of your psycho. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You're gonna bad groceries or are you gonna shoot people
in the head.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
When the drug deals don't go?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I mean choice? Yeah, I mean I want to bag groceries.
You want to shoot people or cut their heads off
and put them on the spikes.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, A decent guy is gonna want to beg groceries.
A psycho is going to want to put their heads
on spikes.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I don't want to be one of these people that overreacts.
But I have not really ever been to.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Mexico except for short visit at Tijana, and that's not
really going very far so I but oh no, Debor
Mark's gone there.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
She got COVID day. Were warning about that or they should?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, so they're concerned on many fronts. It asked tourist
exercise increased caution. Were traveling in seventeen Mexican states, and
one of them has the popular destination can Coon.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
A lot of people went there.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
The one time I went, and we stayed at one
of those resorts near Knekun. Yeah, the whole concept there
scared me because you couldn't go directly to the front gate.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You had to go on a series of winding roads
that went up.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
And back and up and back and up and back,
and they had they had bumps on the roads to
slow cars down because they wanted to make it difficulty.
I imagined they had cameras and if they spotted drug
cartel cars or vans coming, they would get a lot
of warning because you couldn't go through all the ups
and downs very quickly because of the bumps. And then

(30:17):
when you got to the front of the resort, it
was a tall metal gate, like trying to get into
a castle, and then there was security that had your
name on a list, and then they would open the
gate and you'd get inside, and then you were supposed
to stay inside the whole time, unless you wanted to
do tourism, because we went to see pyramids. And then

(30:38):
you had to go in their van, and their van
their vans were plain white because they didn't want to
advertise they were from a hotel. And the whole thing
kind of freaked me out. Yeah, it looked like they
were prepared for war. They were prepared for an invasion.
High walls, you know, ringing around the.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Edges of the property.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Any chances, Uh conways here, I got one answer for you.
How about uh Hawaii? He heard of that.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, you're right, got the same weather. Yeah, I'm not
I'm not a fan of Mexico.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
We have I believe we're going to play the audio
of last Friday when I said this game is going
to come down to one final call from the raft
to benefit Kansas City because there was yeah, there was
seventy three percent of all the money was on Philly
and Vegas needed a flag.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
And they got what I say, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
So and they must have paid off that defensive back
because he said it was an okay call.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Oh yeah, everybody. Everybody's on pabrole. Yeah, everybody out there is.
I'm making some kind of dough.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
I was surprised in the Super Bowl that they introduced
the sign language guy and not the four Navy pilots
that flew over you know, use four women.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
They worked their ass off, you know, they don't they
don't trust.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
They don't trust, you know, seventy million dollar planes just
to any idiot I know.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And these women don't names.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
You know, the glass ceiling, all the struggles they had
and not a single name, but we know the guy
doing the sign language.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
He came out and introduced him, and I said out loud,
well what is what does he do?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
What's he gonna do? And then later on they cut
to him doing the.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Signs the sign language guy, right, I don't know, it's inclusive,
stop it. I guess, I guess. And then the latest
balloon that was knocked down, I guess. Joe Biden just
recently said they shot it down in honor of DeMar Hamblin.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
They shut it down in front of he's just done
cork in honor of DeMar.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
That's gonna go on for six more years. All right,
It does seem like a lot big dog, all right,
ding dog, send the email some kind of show.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It's the John and Ken Show. Yeah, that's sorry.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
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