July 20, 2022 • 37 mins
Steve Gregory comes o the show to talk about West Hollywood's mayor pro-tem requesting armed security from the LA County Sheriff's Department after receiving backlash about cutting the funding to the Sheriff's Department. More on the search for the guy who shot Lady Gaga's dogwalker. Nathan Hochman comes on the show to talk about how George Gascon wants to spend a lot of money on an attorney to defend him in California State Supreme Court.
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Steve Gregory, I know you're very impatient. Steve Gregory's here, Steve,
how are you? And I'm doing okay? I was doing
pretty well until about fifteen minutes ago. But do you
have any comments? He steamed because Ray asked him to
stay fifteen minutes to do this. What do you guys
don't understand. I don't want to believe early that often.
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Ray told me five thirty he moved you up. I
know he did, and he's gonna pay dearly for this.
But do you have any comment on the lead story
of our show? Yes? I do, actually, oh you did
hear that? And I have it in the form of
audio from the captain to the West Hollywood Division of
the Sheriff's Department. You guys are talking about We talked
about the same thing. What are we talking about? Oh,
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John cof the show saying you almost killed him. Yeah,
I was walking out of my office as he was
walking down the hall and it was almost a collision
of epic proportions. Oh, he presented it, so he avoided death.
And I said, it's only because it was Steve Gregory.
If it was anybody else that Almos ran into, you
wouldn't have told the story. Yeah, that's still his cloaked
way of doing another fact joke on me. So that's
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I mean, that's that's gonna for as long. You know what,
I could lose one hundred pounds and you will. You'll
never accept that. And you've been saying that for ten
years ago. What you do. Let's see good point, you know,
I know, good point, right, But you do have a
good story out of who right? Yeah, you know. We
just found out a little bit ago that the mayor
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pro tam of West Hollywood, Seppi shine Um, has requested
armed security. Now she's starting to get threats on social media,
to the point where she has called the Sheriff's Department
to ask them for help. Why didn't she call the ambassadors. Well,
it's funny you should say that, because I went ahead
and called the West Hollywood Division or the West Hollywood
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Bureau of the La County Sheriff's Department when I spoke
with Captain Bill Moulder, and you know, just to give
some background for everybody, this is this Captain Moulder's background
on kind of the history of this effort to defund
the Sheriff's department. Back on June twenty seventh, the city
council voted to restore an entertainment policing deputy to our
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entertainment policing team and then requested to then cut five deputies.
In ninety days from that particular date, they will look
at cutting two deputies and of the five, and then
six months after that look at cutting possibly three more.
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So that in motion and in place of that, then
the ambassador program will come up. And this is how
he explains that that effort was to also I guess,
enhance or augment security in the city of West Hollywood
with unarmed ambassadors. Is that correct? Oh? Yes, part of
that was also to add thirty security ambassadors from block
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by block to enhance the patrols not only in commercial areas,
but residential areas as well. So if this individual that's
requesting the armed security detail from you is trying to
reduce the number of armed security in West Hollywood, why
wouldn't this person just wanting to use one of the
unarmed ambassadors for their security detail. I can't comment on that.
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I don't tell you. Poor cap did cut him off
guard there. But so you know why she's getting these
threats over what issue or because of the blowback for
wanting to reduce the armed number of deputies in West Hollywood.
So she is now in a situation much like when
the La City Council. Remember they were getting way to
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defund the LAPD to the tune of one hundred and
fifty million dollars, but each one of them still wanted
their security detail from the lap They have no shame,
absolutely no shame. The same with the La County Board
of Supervisors when they want armed security and they're they've
done a hiring freezer armed security for them, but not
for us. Exactly, we're supposed to just take the bullet.
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So apparently this thing exactly, so what they'll do now
is the city did approve the expenditure of overtime money
so they can pay for the mayor pro TAM's armed
security detail from the La County Sheriff's Department. So that begins. Uh,
you know, it's this reduction of armed security is a
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big deal because you got to remember in crime in
the West Hollywood area has gone up like some one
hundred thirty seven percent from this time last year. I know,
there's no number that gets them to stop this nonsense.
The higher the crime rate goes, the more they wanted
to fund the police and and cut back on the
number of officers and then get their own private security
to protect them, right well, and then and the private
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security is the Sheriff's department, well and exactly, and it's
it's private to them, but it's public for us because
we're paid to protect them, but we can't pay to
protect us. And I think there's a lot of blowback
too because this mayor. You know, they really touted this
mayor as one of the first LGBTQ mayors. And you know,
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she spent eighty five thousand dollars a taxpayer money updating
an lgbt crosswalk to make it more trans and touting
a mayor for the intelligent things they do to make
the city safer instead of touting sexuality. I don't care
about anybody's sexuality. I want to know that you're intelligent
enough to provide the safety that the public wants, not
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just for yourself. Who cares about your sexuality? I'm so
sick hearing about it. Well, they also spend fifty thousand
dollars on the Troubled Russian Culture festival. But the Troubled
Russian Culture Yes, apparently it's been in trouble as of
late because Russi is not popular. Join well, it wasn't
at the time. I guess there were some financial issues
prior to this is what I understand it. But now,
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so they gave a fifty thousand dollars infusion, and then
Russia invaded Ukraine. I see, I should invite Putin to West.
So I think there's some sort of blowback and backlash
on the fact that the city council doesn't mind its
spending money on these other things when there's an issue
with crime. Now, remember the city council voted three to two.
There were two opposing votes to us because they listened
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to the voices of the business owners and business and
the people. Now, I will tell you this also, there
is a member of the LGBTQ community that we work
with here and I had a long discussion with him.
He lives in West Hollywood, and I asked him his
take on all this, and he says, let me tell
you something. Right now, every gay person I know has
buyer's remorse with the city council. Well, yeah, because you're
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not you're not voting for the meat and potatoes stuff
that matters. Well, they were sold they're voting for virtue signaling. Well,
they felt like they were. They felt like they were
voting people in there that could make change and do things.
They didn't realize what they were actually going to make change,
like remove the police. Right, yeah, there's your change, because
at a point now where hit at heat crimes are
starting to a skyrocket, of course, And that's what makes
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me crazy is that you you you want to vote
for a safe haven, right, and then you d police
the safe haven. Well, what do you think is going
to happen? The bad guys are going to come in
and target you. Except those elected officials with armed security
detail except that, right, right, Except like the mayor. Yeah,
I just don't understand the whole world. So who has
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to approve this request? Well, here's the thing. So Captain Mulder,
and you know, he's been very diplomatic and professional about this.
He says, when we see this, we have to we
have to make a report, a suspicious activity report based
on these perceived threats on the social media platforms. He says,
we have to you know, I have to grant that
request because at the end of the day, our job
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is to protect life, limb and property. It doesn't really
matter who these people are. We don't get politically, says
he says. So we will. He said, as long as
they pay the tab, because he said, if we can
afford it, we'll do it. And that's when the city
approved the tab the overtime for these two these additional
security details for her, And does she comment on the hypocrisy,
on the insanity of trying to cut the sheriff's force
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and then demanding her own for her detail. I mean,
does she have any sense how this plays that it
makes her look like a big fool. Well, we've not
had a chance to reach out to her, and I'm
sure that if I do that now. I'm I'm not
sure how quickly they'll get back to I see, well,
especially after this. Tell them I say, hi, yeah, I'll
tell him you're looking for property there? Yeah, right, exactly
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if they have a police force to personally protect me,
maybe I oh yeah, yeah, all right, Steve, very good.
They gotta guys take care, yeah, you tube. That's worth
pointing out again that the woman that wants to be
on the Elling County Board of Supervisors, her name is
Lindsey Horvath. This is West Hollywood City councilwoman for a while,
and she scrubbed that from like her resume, So she
doesn't want county voters who are going to vote on
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that board seat that she to know she was on
that government board. Isn't that funny? I mean she completely
erased all references to her West Hollywood experience. Yeah, yeah,
just gone because she knows that it will just be
a black mark with some voters. I bother and people
wants to Hollywood that liked her will probably vote for her.
But people outside of West Hollywood, they don't like her
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or don't like that government, and there are antics that
would be a negative pull on her chances. All Right,
when we return. Coming up, you're gonna have a chance
at a thousand dollars. It is the last time today.
As you get the keyword. It will resume tomorrow at
about nine two. Lauren Meister's the mayor, right, I don't
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know is that the name Stephen the mayor? Lauren Meister?
No Zeppi Seppi Shine, Seppi Shine, Okay, Seppi Shine, Seppi Shine.
That's a kind of a catchy name. Szepi shan Seppi shine. Okay.
I gotta look up that name. And they're looking still
for the guy that shot the Lady Gaga dog Walk
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Remember that story for more than a year ago. Yeah,
he had forgotten it. He got away due to a mistake,
and they're still trying to find him. We'll give you
that story and more coming up. John and Ken showed
Remember the two al Monty police officers who were gunned
down at that hotel when they went to try to
get a guy that may have been physically abusing his wife.
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We found out that that guy was just on a
probation even though he had a gun, and he was
a one striker unto California's three strikes law. Because the
policies of Ella County District Attorney George Gascon was to
ignore the strikes. That was a blanket policy. Well, that
got challenged a judge and an appellate court said you
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can't do that. So Gascone is now going to the
California State Supreme Court and he's bringing with him one
hell of a high powered attorney, a man by the
name of neil Ka kat y'all who represented al Gore
in the two thousand election dispute, as appeared before the
US Supreme Court dozens of times, and his law firm
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can charge nearly twenty five hundred dollars an hour in
some cases. You're going to pay for this because he's
going to be the attorney for Gascon, who was employed
by the county. We will talk about it after five
thirty with Nathan Hochman, who was running for California Attorney General.
All right, now we turn our attention to this fiasco.
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It was a huge tabloid story, and of course it
would be because even though this celebrity was not there
at the time, it was her precious dogs that were
seized in a robbery. Lady Gaga's dog walker was shot
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and two of her French bulldogs were stolen. I remember
we did follow this story when it happened. Eventually, the
dog walker's name is Ryan Fisher. He's still trying to recover.
He got shot the chest. Yeah, yeah, serious wound. So
what happened in the days that followed? Lady Gaga offered
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a five hundred thousand dollar reward for the dogs. No
question asked. Woman shows up and says, oh, I found
these dogs. I see that they might be on the news.
I just wanted to return them to their rightful owner.
But the problem with that story was he was apparently
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in a relationship with one of the suspects fathers. It
was clear that this was just a move by the
kidnappers to try to maybe even cash it on the reward.
I don't know, because they sent somebody that didn't even
that had no connection to the theft right to them.
If you don't want to go through the trouble is
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selling it or holding him for ransom, show up for
the reward with the dogs and say hey, look we
just found them. So they end up arresting five people
in connection with this robbery. Was February of twenty twenty
one and the reason we're talking about it now, and
I remember it was some time later. One of the
guys arrested is James Howard Jackson. He was facing an
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attempted murder charge and one day during processing he got
released due to a clerical era, well because they had
filed a new set of charges against him, so the
new set superseded the old set, which I guess changed
the case number. Anyway, this confused I guess the dullard
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clerks who processed this stuff right and looked it up
and said, oh, okay, his case has been dropped. But
I guess there was a new case filed and they
didn't know. Yeah, yeah, Well, whatever dud was handling the paperwork,
I guess saw that the old set of charges were
voided out, so he assumed, well, I guess we have
to release James Howard Jackson. And they did, and the
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sheriff's deputies let him out because that's what they were
told to do. This happened in April, and they called
it a superseding indictment, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit a robbery,
an assault with a semi automatic firearm. They thought they
would do this to speed up the legal process, as
John said, a new case number. But that resulted in
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some confusion and Jackson walked. Yeah, this really did speed
up legal process, didn't it. He got out free, no
waiting for Gascon to set him free. It's true, maybe
it was a clerical era, but he's a lovely man.
He has a complicated tattoo on his neck, really on
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his throat, you know. And you know, tattoos on the
neck are rarely signs of a troubled person almost never.
Wouldn't want to make any any judgments on that. So
now the Feds are offering a five thousand dollars reward.
This is brand new because now these months later, actually
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it's a year later, they have not found him yet. Well,
wherever he's gone to hide, it says he's a documented
gang member. Maybe that woman will show up again, the
one that brought the dogs in. Yeah, wherever she was
claiming the first reward. Oh, so the dogs to come
for the final Yeah, come and she'll tell them where
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he is, or she'll just stick up a story. Yeah
for sure. Uh, I mean, Lady Gaga offered a half
million dollar reward for the dogs back, but I'm not
aware she s worded it to get the kill. Yeah,
to get Ryan Fisher some I think he was getting
some help with his medical bills. I remember some months
after this happened, he made a plea, a public plea,
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that it's tough for him to pay for his care. Yeah,
she didn't and she didn't come forward. No, the money
was about getting the dogs back, right, right, The money
was about the dogs would do him being left dead?
You'd leave the guy for dead too, I guess as
long as you got your dogs back. Well, no, I'm not. No,
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I do have a heart, you know you do for
some people. Okay, but what would get the bigger reward?
Getting the dogs back or getting a guy medical help?
That's gonna say. You've got one choice. You'd be a
great contestant on a moral dilemma game show. I think
we know all the answer. Yeah, right, but which could
we get her to admit it? So you'd take the
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dogs back? Oh? I would. I would die if somebody
stole my dogs. I really would. Oh that'd be horrible.
I don't hear any empathy for the dog walker, though,
who was laying why? I'm the dog walker? All right?
But let's say you hired someone and they got. Of course,
if you'd be frantic about the dogs and be like, oh, yeah,
he's in the hospital, I feel very bad for the
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dog walker. I would do whatever I could, but yes,
my feelings would be more intense about the dogs. There
you go, all right, all right, another good story concerning
the La County District Attorney George Gascone. You're a person
in need, don't don't drop dead? And on the debor's
block because he wants to spend a hell of a
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lot of money on a big name lawyer to represent
him before the California State Supreme Court. Details coming up.
All right, cath what better not be you? Because I'm
going to remember this. Oh I know, no, you'll kick me. Well.
The La County District jurney George Gascone, uh, you know,
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he threw out a strike on a guy who went
on to murder to El Monty police officers, and what
he did violated the law, and eventually his own his
own deputy das had to sue him in court and
the judge said, yeah, what Gascon did was wrong against
the law, so you can't do it anymore. Too late
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for that case. That guy was free and then he
eventually killed the killed the cops. Now there's an appeal
all the way this California Supreme Court. Yeah, what happened
was that judge overruled Gascone, so it went to an
appellate court. They agreed with the judge and overruled Gascone.
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Gascon has decided this is so important to him, this
directive about strikes. He's going to the California State Supreme
Court with his with his with his case. And the
new detail we just learned from Fox News is he's
on a very high powered attorney who apparently charges a lot.
His name is Neil Ka kat y'all. He's a former
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acting US Solicitor General. He actually represented al Gore in
the two thousand election dispute, and he's appeared before the
US Supreme Court dozens of times. He might be one
of the United States highest paid attorneys. Gascon is bringing
him on to argue his case before the California States
of the Court about charging strikes. That's our tax money
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is going for a guy who tried I would say
it has to be nearly twenty fives doing it pro bono. Now,
an attorney representing the La County Deputy das is Nathan Hawkman,
who's also running for California Attorney General as a Republican
against Rob Bonta. He came in second in the primary.
So we're going to talk to Nathan Hawkman now and
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again he's going to represent the La County. DA's basically
representing the public here, Yeah, against against gas own and
this Neil kat y'all, Nathan Hockman, Welcome to the John
and Ken Show again. How are you great to be on?
Very well, thank you. This is pretty outrageous, isn't it
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that we've got to pay this kind of money after
Gascon has been told repeatedly now that he's violated the
law by by throwing out strikes. It's actually incredible. I mean,
Gascon was actually told by the Court of Appeals that
he could he was not above the law, that he
was not an absolute sovereign who could do whatever he wanted,
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including getting rid of the three strikes policy and having
a blanket policy to never charge a second or third strike. Ever, again,
the appeals court throughout that power and said you have
to comply with the law. Now Gascon is doing something
even more incredible. He's going ahead and saying I think
the three strikes law itself is unconstitutional. Usually that's the
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argument of a defense attorney. He's now up the script
and he is acting as the basically super defense attorney
on behalf of criminals as opposed of victims in the public. Incredible.
Has this three strikes constitutionality been litigated yet? Oh, it's
been litigated. I mean three strikes passed in nineteen ninety four,
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so it's been on the books for twenty eight years.
There was a proposition with over seventy percent of the
people voting for it. It was also a law that
was passed by the state legislature at the same time.
This has gone through rounds and rounds of California Supreme
Court litigation affirming the constitutionality of three strikes. But now
Gascone is hiring one of the highest price attorneys in
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America to try and throw out the law that gives
prosecutors the power to put the most violent and serious
offenders in jail for a very very long time. Again,
it's shocking that a prosecutor would be trying to do this.
Usually this is the realm of a defense attorney. But
if it's already been litigated over and over again, and
he's already lost in the lower courts. What are the
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odds that he's going to win this at the California
Supreme Court. Well, I mean, this is why he lost
it on before an LA Superior Court judge, why I
lost it between before three different California Pelot Court judges.
Most likely the California Supreme Courts not even going to
take this, you know, this writ that he is now
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asking that the appeal and this petition. Most likely they
will just reject it rather than hearing it again. Because
the constitutionality of three strikes is absolute and the fact
that a prosecutor is not above the law is one
of the fundamental premises in our law, because everyone is
subject to the law and gas Oncent app act as
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an absolute sovereign. Is there some provision in the law
that Gascone thinks gives him discretion? Sure, I mean there's
the idea that prosecutors only have extremely wide discretion, but
it's subjects to a few exceptions. And the exception is
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a law like three strikes law that says a prosecutor's
shell file a strike, a second or third strike if
the evidence warrants it, and then after it's filed, if
he can, if he wants and believes the evidence compels that,
he can move to dismiss it. But then he needs
the approval of the court ahead of time. He doesn't
need the approval of the court, which is what he's
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arguing for. But after he files it and then wants
to dismiss it, the court has to go along with that.
All right, So there's spotting with down below. There's no discretion.
He must file an original charge. He has the discretion
to ask the judge to dismiss it later on. He
has no discretion not to file it. But then he can.
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He has the discretion to move to dismiss but then
the judge has to agree with this. How is it
He has the power to hire somebody that costs this
much is his legal representative. He can just do this,
use the taxpayer money to hire this high payered, high
paid attorney. He has that power. But that is another
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reason that he needs to be recalled. I mean, if
ever you needed one more reason to recall someone is
that he's willing to pay the taxpayer's money. And interestingly,
he didn't use the California Attorney General's office, which I
find the shocking as well. I'm running for California Attorney General,
and if and the California Attorney General generally handles all
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appeals to the California Supreme Court. Gascon is bypassed in
the California Attorney General. We have not heard from Rob
Bonda whether he agrees with this strategy, and I'm assuming
he does, because Gaston and Bonta have been in complete
alliance and league endorse each other. They're part of the
let him go guys. And the assumption is that Rob
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Bonta is actually endorsing this strategy or else he would
oppose it and represent the people of the state of
California and say, the California Supreme Court, we want to
uphold the laws of propositions and state legislators. Does it
surprise you that he does this after the murder of
the two Almonte cops. Gascon is about his tone death
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as I've ever seen a district attorney. The fact that
he would do this in light of the deaths that
were caused by his own policy of not filing the
second strike or dismissing the second strike is again shocking
and overwhelmingly demonstrates the case as to why Gascon needs
to be recalled. So you're going to be arguing against
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this high powered attorney in the state Supreme Court. I've
had the pleasure of arguing against many high powered attorneys
throughout my thirty year career. You are a high powered attorney,
you are a high powered at There you go. I
appreciate that. Yeah, I've been a US Assistant Attorney General
and I've gone against the best that the other side
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has had to throw against us. But when you have
the law and you have the facts on your side,
you start out way ahead. And we have four judges
that have already considered this and ruled against Gaston, and
so I even predict the Supreme Court won't actually take
the petition for the review. When do you think this
case will be originally ruled on. I think the Supreme
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Court will most likely rule on this case within the
next month or two. On whether or not it's going
to take the petition. They can decide not to take
the petition, and then it's dead in the water. There's
no further place for Gaston to go. If they take
the petition, then there will be briefing and eventually most
likely arguments in the case. All right, Nathan, thanks for
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coming on, and we hope you don't have to argue
in court. We hope the California State Supreme Court just
reject this. It's pathetic. I think it's I think they'll
do the right thing. They'll reject it. And again, most
likely what we're hoping is that the voters, you know,
the recall gets on the ballot, and then the voters
vote for the recall and end the reign of King
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George Gaston in Lost Angeles forever. All right, there's Nathan Hockman.
Thanks very much for coming on again. Thanks again, appreciate it.
And of course he's will be on your ballot November
for California Attorney General against the incumbent Rock Bonta, and
clearly he's a far better choice than Rob Banta, who
is an acolyte of George Gascon. I. Guy Gascon wants
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to spend possibly twenty five hundred dollars an hour on this,
Neil cat y'all to represent him in the California State
Supreme Court to argue about not charging strikes when a
felon commits another crime, and that was the case with
the Almonte police officers shoot. That was Justin Flores who
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killed them. He had a strike on his record. Gascon
apparently just agreed with the strike. Remember that he just
he robbed his grandparents. So, I mean, you know he's
got drug problems. We didn't know he was going to be.
Nothing in his past indicating he was going to be
a violent person. This is what This is the danger
of this man. He decides these things, and you know
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what is always worth repeating. He had a blanket policy.
He told his deputy das do not charge strikes. Yet
when this case became known, he tried to make it
sound like, well, we looked at this particular case with
this Justin Flores carefully and he didn't have any violent background.
But when the truth was he had a blanket policy tonight,
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it didn't matter nobody's looking at his background. It was
just don't charge. Whatever the background of the perpetrator was,
or whatever Gascon's policy is is irrelevant. The law says
you must charge it. You shall shall means you have
no wiggle room, you don't have any discretion in that moment.
It's a must, You're required, and that's what the judge
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And then the appellate Court said that he can't override
the law, so he's just to make his own legal law.
Come up with all the theories he wants about the
guy's childhood or how he thinks the world ought to
work in the state of California, It doesn't. It simply doesn't.
You have to change the law, and that's not happening
anytime soon. All Right, we got more coming up. Oh yeah,
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Court decision on Roe v. Wade have faded, but apparently
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there are still protesters that march outside of the home
of some of the justices. A story was featured about
Brett Kavanaugh. His neighbors are fed up at the protesters.
They are loud, they are obnoxious, they are abusive, and
it's been going on too long, and they're going after
the neighbors, not just Cavanon's and it's family, But the
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neighbors said, the neighbors are complaining again. The neighbors are
telling the story here that they use drums and megaphones, drums,
and if you complain, they yell fu and f your children. Nice. Yeah,
they even shout ugly things at the kids. These are diseased.
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I think they're there all night long. Some of the
families say, we just have to go out to dinner
and just disappear for hours because we can't put up
with it. When we tell them, can you keep it
down a little, they call us fascists, said one residence.
You know, they're violating federal law. There's a federal law
that's not being enforced that prohibits protesting to intimidate or
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influence a Supreme Court justice at his home. There is
a specific law. There is a specific law. And in fact,
Ted Cruz was talking about this out loud the other day.
Why isn't Merrick Garland, who's the Attorney General, having the
Department of Justice enforced this law because they passed it
some years ago. Why can't the local police enforce it? Well,
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it's a federal law. You know, up to a point,
you can protest on a public street. Or a public sidewalk.
I don't know how much the police could do, but
right now nobody's doing anything. No, they're starting to call
them Karen's when they complain. It's a stupid you know,
of all the stupid trendy little phrases around it, and
there's lots. The biggest dumbass phrase is when you call
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somebody a Karen, it's bad one. And I feel bad
for all the Karen's of the world. That was their
name years ago. It's just the sign of an idiot.
Just you know where they came from. One guy on
Reddit was bitching about his wife. Oh, and I guess
either his wife name was Karen or he called her Karen,
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And suddenly this took off. This is what the morons
do at home as they read Reddit threads about somebody
else's bad marriage and they start these uh yeah. I
just started noticing these viral videos a couple of years ago,
when it's a white woman in a park is yelling
racist stuff at somebody, and suddenly I'm seeing the term Karen.
Here's another Karen's story, and I'm like, what's it with Karen?
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They looked up and said, oh, that's the term they're
using their name. They're using for supposedly white women, a privilege. Yeah,
who act badly in any way? Right? Oh, sometimes they're
not acting badly. It's just the Wokesters disagree with their
they decide they're acting badly. Yeah, correctly. There was something
about you were talking about how most of the world's
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moved on from this abortion debate. There actually was a
story in Real Clear Politics today with graphs tracking how
often the word abortion is mentioned in the news media
and how often it searched online by people on Google.
And it's dropped down to nothing. The media is not
mentioning it either, far less than they were. Oh you know,
(33:56):
it was it peaked on a certain date when when
the stories happen, and then it's dribbling along at the bottom.
And the same thing with the Google the Google mentions
because ultimately there's nothing more to the story. The Supreme
Court decided. There's going to be scuffles in a number
of states, but you know, it's over until we get
into the Supreme Court that takes up the case that
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might bring it back. Yeah, thirty years from now and
something like that. Ah, tim congding, go on with you. Hey,
let me ask you fellas if you had a daughter
who was like six months old and you named her Karen,
and then all this stuff came out, would you change
her name? I think it's a fad. Maybe not that
that would die out. I think you would, but yeah,
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I think now probably the one time I tracked the
popularity of names, and names will peak. Sure, maybe there's
a famous actress, and then they'll drop. They'll drop like
to number three hundred and eighty two or off the shelf. Yeah,
And I don't know what causes the drops the increases.
You could see it's usually has something to do with fame.
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I mean, could you imagine, like if your name was
associated with something outside of you, like what it like,
Like let's say the term you know, like, oh, that
guy's a John, he's a bathroom. Yeah, and he's a prostitute.
Realized it is a bathroom. That's right, it's a bathroom
and it's a hooker user. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't realize that.
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I know. Oh that's horrible. I feel horrible, you know.
And John was extremely popular in a certain it's a
bible bible names, and you know many of them turned
out to be serial killers. Yeah, right, exactly Yeah, John Hinckley,
John David Hinkley. If they weren't serial killers, they were
shooting at presidents. And so it's John Jacob Jingleheimer smit right.
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Another one. You have a five day closure on the
westbound two ten Freeway through San Gabriel Valley that starts tonight.
That's gonna be hell for a lot of people. Several
people hospitalized after severe turbulence on American Airlines flight. That
is wild man. You know, people that didn't have their
seat belt up. They got hang around and they say,
put your That happened. We were coming back from Hawaii
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when I was I don't know, in seventeen eighteen, and
we hit that turbulence and the people that weren't wearing
a seatbelt all hit their heads. Oh on the luggage wrecks.
I have my SABA and so I was fine. I
know you're worried about that chanel storm, Beverly Grove robbed,
smash and grab bad vibes and so we'll get to that. Yeah,
and so that is it all right? John can show
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is that? I don't know. Voice in my head don't
like you put a caller on the air. You're not
supposed to hear the voices in my head at the
apro mark, she's always slipping over there. Fifteen minutes from now,
the keyword is coming up, the last one of the day.
In fact, for your chance to win a thousand dollars.
It won't be back until the nine o'clock hour tomorrow morning. Yes,
(01:27):
Steve Gregory, I know you're very impatient. Steve Gregory's here, Steve,
how are you? And I'm doing okay? I was doing
pretty well until about fifteen minutes ago. But do you
have any comments? He steamed because Ray asked him to
stay fifteen minutes to do this. What do you guys
don't understand. I don't want to believe early that often.
(01:47):
Ray told me five thirty he moved you up. I
know he did, and he's gonna pay dearly for this.
But do you have any comment on the lead story
of our show? Yes? I do, actually, oh you did
hear that? And I have it in the form of
audio from the captain to the West Hollywood Division of
the Sheriff's Department. You guys are talking about We talked
about the same thing. What are we talking about? Oh,
(02:09):
John cof the show saying you almost killed him. Yeah,
I was walking out of my office as he was
walking down the hall and it was almost a collision
of epic proportions. Oh, he presented it, so he avoided death.
And I said, it's only because it was Steve Gregory.
If it was anybody else that Almos ran into, you
wouldn't have told the story. Yeah, that's still his cloaked
way of doing another fact joke on me. So that's
(02:30):
I mean, that's that's gonna for as long. You know what,
I could lose one hundred pounds and you will. You'll
never accept that. And you've been saying that for ten
years ago. What you do. Let's see good point, you know,
I know, good point, right, But you do have a
good story out of who right? Yeah, you know. We
just found out a little bit ago that the mayor
(02:51):
pro tam of West Hollywood, Seppi shine Um, has requested
armed security. Now she's starting to get threats on social media,
to the point where she has called the Sheriff's Department
to ask them for help. Why didn't she call the ambassadors. Well,
it's funny you should say that, because I went ahead
and called the West Hollywood Division or the West Hollywood
(03:13):
Bureau of the La County Sheriff's Department when I spoke
with Captain Bill Moulder, and you know, just to give
some background for everybody, this is this Captain Moulder's background
on kind of the history of this effort to defund
the Sheriff's department. Back on June twenty seventh, the city
council voted to restore an entertainment policing deputy to our
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entertainment policing team and then requested to then cut five deputies.
In ninety days from that particular date, they will look
at cutting two deputies and of the five, and then
six months after that look at cutting possibly three more.
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So that in motion and in place of that, then
the ambassador program will come up. And this is how
he explains that that effort was to also I guess,
enhance or augment security in the city of West Hollywood
with unarmed ambassadors. Is that correct? Oh? Yes, part of
that was also to add thirty security ambassadors from block
(04:21):
by block to enhance the patrols not only in commercial areas,
but residential areas as well. So if this individual that's
requesting the armed security detail from you is trying to
reduce the number of armed security in West Hollywood, why
wouldn't this person just wanting to use one of the
unarmed ambassadors for their security detail. I can't comment on that.
(04:44):
I don't tell you. Poor cap did cut him off
guard there. But so you know why she's getting these
threats over what issue or because of the blowback for
wanting to reduce the armed number of deputies in West Hollywood.
So she is now in a situation much like when
the La City Council. Remember they were getting way to
(05:07):
defund the LAPD to the tune of one hundred and
fifty million dollars, but each one of them still wanted
their security detail from the lap They have no shame,
absolutely no shame. The same with the La County Board
of Supervisors when they want armed security and they're they've
done a hiring freezer armed security for them, but not
for us. Exactly, we're supposed to just take the bullet.
(05:28):
So apparently this thing exactly, so what they'll do now
is the city did approve the expenditure of overtime money
so they can pay for the mayor pro TAM's armed
security detail from the La County Sheriff's Department. So that begins. Uh,
you know, it's this reduction of armed security is a
(05:50):
big deal because you got to remember in crime in
the West Hollywood area has gone up like some one
hundred thirty seven percent from this time last year. I know,
there's no number that gets them to stop this nonsense.
The higher the crime rate goes, the more they wanted
to fund the police and and cut back on the
number of officers and then get their own private security
to protect them, right well, and then and the private
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security is the Sheriff's department, well and exactly, and it's
it's private to them, but it's public for us because
we're paid to protect them, but we can't pay to
protect us. And I think there's a lot of blowback
too because this mayor. You know, they really touted this
mayor as one of the first LGBTQ mayors. And you know,
(06:34):
she spent eighty five thousand dollars a taxpayer money updating
an lgbt crosswalk to make it more trans and touting
a mayor for the intelligent things they do to make
the city safer instead of touting sexuality. I don't care
about anybody's sexuality. I want to know that you're intelligent
enough to provide the safety that the public wants, not
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just for yourself. Who cares about your sexuality? I'm so
sick hearing about it. Well, they also spend fifty thousand
dollars on the Troubled Russian Culture festival. But the Troubled
Russian Culture Yes, apparently it's been in trouble as of
late because Russi is not popular. Join well, it wasn't
at the time. I guess there were some financial issues
prior to this is what I understand it. But now,
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so they gave a fifty thousand dollars infusion, and then
Russia invaded Ukraine. I see, I should invite Putin to West.
So I think there's some sort of blowback and backlash
on the fact that the city council doesn't mind its
spending money on these other things when there's an issue
with crime. Now, remember the city council voted three to two.
There were two opposing votes to us because they listened
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to the voices of the business owners and business and
the people. Now, I will tell you this also, there
is a member of the LGBTQ community that we work
with here and I had a long discussion with him.
He lives in West Hollywood, and I asked him his
take on all this, and he says, let me tell
you something. Right now, every gay person I know has
buyer's remorse with the city council. Well, yeah, because you're
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not you're not voting for the meat and potatoes stuff
that matters. Well, they were sold they're voting for virtue signaling. Well,
they felt like they were. They felt like they were
voting people in there that could make change and do things.
They didn't realize what they were actually going to make change,
like remove the police. Right, yeah, there's your change, because
at a point now where hit at heat crimes are
starting to a skyrocket, of course, And that's what makes
(08:26):
me crazy is that you you you want to vote
for a safe haven, right, and then you d police
the safe haven. Well, what do you think is going
to happen? The bad guys are going to come in
and target you. Except those elected officials with armed security
detail except that, right, right, Except like the mayor. Yeah,
I just don't understand the whole world. So who has
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to approve this request? Well, here's the thing. So Captain Mulder,
and you know, he's been very diplomatic and professional about this.
He says, when we see this, we have to we
have to make a report, a suspicious activity report based
on these perceived threats on the social media platforms. He says,
we have to you know, I have to grant that
request because at the end of the day, our job
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is to protect life, limb and property. It doesn't really
matter who these people are. We don't get politically, says
he says. So we will. He said, as long as
they pay the tab, because he said, if we can
afford it, we'll do it. And that's when the city
approved the tab the overtime for these two these additional
security details for her, And does she comment on the hypocrisy,
on the insanity of trying to cut the sheriff's force
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and then demanding her own for her detail. I mean,
does she have any sense how this plays that it
makes her look like a big fool. Well, we've not
had a chance to reach out to her, and I'm
sure that if I do that now. I'm I'm not
sure how quickly they'll get back to I see, well,
especially after this. Tell them I say, hi, yeah, I'll
tell him you're looking for property there? Yeah, right, exactly
(09:56):
if they have a police force to personally protect me,
maybe I oh yeah, yeah, all right, Steve, very good.
They gotta guys take care, yeah, you tube. That's worth
pointing out again that the woman that wants to be
on the Elling County Board of Supervisors, her name is
Lindsey Horvath. This is West Hollywood City councilwoman for a while,
and she scrubbed that from like her resume, So she
doesn't want county voters who are going to vote on
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that board seat that she to know she was on
that government board. Isn't that funny? I mean she completely
erased all references to her West Hollywood experience. Yeah, yeah,
just gone because she knows that it will just be
a black mark with some voters. I bother and people
wants to Hollywood that liked her will probably vote for her.
But people outside of West Hollywood, they don't like her
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or don't like that government, and there are antics that
would be a negative pull on her chances. All Right,
when we return. Coming up, you're gonna have a chance
at a thousand dollars. It is the last time today.
As you get the keyword. It will resume tomorrow at
about nine two. Lauren Meister's the mayor, right, I don't
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know is that the name Stephen the mayor? Lauren Meister?
No Zeppi Seppi Shine, Seppi Shine, Okay, Seppi Shine, Seppi Shine.
That's a kind of a catchy name. Szepi shan Seppi shine. Okay.
I gotta look up that name. And they're looking still
for the guy that shot the Lady Gaga dog Walk
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Remember that story for more than a year ago. Yeah,
he had forgotten it. He got away due to a mistake,
and they're still trying to find him. We'll give you
that story and more coming up. John and Ken showed
Remember the two al Monty police officers who were gunned
down at that hotel when they went to try to
get a guy that may have been physically abusing his wife.
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We found out that that guy was just on a
probation even though he had a gun, and he was
a one striker unto California's three strikes law. Because the
policies of Ella County District Attorney George Gascon was to
ignore the strikes. That was a blanket policy. Well, that
got challenged a judge and an appellate court said you
(12:08):
can't do that. So Gascone is now going to the
California State Supreme Court and he's bringing with him one
hell of a high powered attorney, a man by the
name of neil Ka kat y'all who represented al Gore
in the two thousand election dispute, as appeared before the
US Supreme Court dozens of times, and his law firm
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can charge nearly twenty five hundred dollars an hour in
some cases. You're going to pay for this because he's
going to be the attorney for Gascon, who was employed
by the county. We will talk about it after five
thirty with Nathan Hochman, who was running for California Attorney General.
All right, now we turn our attention to this fiasco.
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It was a huge tabloid story, and of course it
would be because even though this celebrity was not there
at the time, it was her precious dogs that were
seized in a robbery. Lady Gaga's dog walker was shot
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and two of her French bulldogs were stolen. I remember
we did follow this story when it happened. Eventually, the
dog walker's name is Ryan Fisher. He's still trying to recover.
He got shot the chest. Yeah, yeah, serious wound. So
what happened in the days that followed? Lady Gaga offered
(13:38):
a five hundred thousand dollar reward for the dogs. No
question asked. Woman shows up and says, oh, I found
these dogs. I see that they might be on the news.
I just wanted to return them to their rightful owner.
But the problem with that story was he was apparently
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in a relationship with one of the suspects fathers. It
was clear that this was just a move by the
kidnappers to try to maybe even cash it on the reward.
I don't know, because they sent somebody that didn't even
that had no connection to the theft right to them.
If you don't want to go through the trouble is
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selling it or holding him for ransom, show up for
the reward with the dogs and say hey, look we
just found them. So they end up arresting five people
in connection with this robbery. Was February of twenty twenty
one and the reason we're talking about it now, and
I remember it was some time later. One of the
guys arrested is James Howard Jackson. He was facing an
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attempted murder charge and one day during processing he got
released due to a clerical era, well because they had
filed a new set of charges against him, so the
new set superseded the old set, which I guess changed
the case number. Anyway, this confused I guess the dullard
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clerks who processed this stuff right and looked it up
and said, oh, okay, his case has been dropped. But
I guess there was a new case filed and they
didn't know. Yeah, yeah, Well, whatever dud was handling the paperwork,
I guess saw that the old set of charges were
voided out, so he assumed, well, I guess we have
to release James Howard Jackson. And they did, and the
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sheriff's deputies let him out because that's what they were
told to do. This happened in April, and they called
it a superseding indictment, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit a robbery,
an assault with a semi automatic firearm. They thought they
would do this to speed up the legal process, as
John said, a new case number. But that resulted in
(15:46):
some confusion and Jackson walked. Yeah, this really did speed
up legal process, didn't it. He got out free, no
waiting for Gascon to set him free. It's true, maybe
it was a clerical era, but he's a lovely man.
He has a complicated tattoo on his neck, really on
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his throat, you know. And you know, tattoos on the
neck are rarely signs of a troubled person almost never.
Wouldn't want to make any any judgments on that. So
now the Feds are offering a five thousand dollars reward.
This is brand new because now these months later, actually
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it's a year later, they have not found him yet. Well,
wherever he's gone to hide, it says he's a documented
gang member. Maybe that woman will show up again, the
one that brought the dogs in. Yeah, wherever she was
claiming the first reward. Oh, so the dogs to come
for the final Yeah, come and she'll tell them where
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he is, or she'll just stick up a story. Yeah
for sure. Uh, I mean, Lady Gaga offered a half
million dollar reward for the dogs back, but I'm not
aware she s worded it to get the kill. Yeah,
to get Ryan Fisher some I think he was getting
some help with his medical bills. I remember some months
after this happened, he made a plea, a public plea,
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that it's tough for him to pay for his care. Yeah,
she didn't and she didn't come forward. No, the money
was about getting the dogs back, right, right, The money
was about the dogs would do him being left dead?
You'd leave the guy for dead too, I guess as
long as you got your dogs back. Well, no, I'm not. No,
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I do have a heart, you know you do for
some people. Okay, but what would get the bigger reward?
Getting the dogs back or getting a guy medical help?
That's gonna say. You've got one choice. You'd be a
great contestant on a moral dilemma game show. I think
we know all the answer. Yeah, right, but which could
we get her to admit it? So you'd take the
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dogs back? Oh? I would. I would die if somebody
stole my dogs. I really would. Oh that'd be horrible.
I don't hear any empathy for the dog walker, though,
who was laying why? I'm the dog walker? All right?
But let's say you hired someone and they got. Of course,
if you'd be frantic about the dogs and be like, oh, yeah,
he's in the hospital, I feel very bad for the
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dog walker. I would do whatever I could, but yes,
my feelings would be more intense about the dogs. There
you go, all right, all right, another good story concerning
the La County District Attorney George Gascone. You're a person
in need, don't don't drop dead? And on the debor's
block because he wants to spend a hell of a
(18:37):
lot of money on a big name lawyer to represent
him before the California State Supreme Court. Details coming up.
All right, cath what better not be you? Because I'm
going to remember this. Oh I know, no, you'll kick me. Well.
The La County District jurney George Gascone, uh, you know,
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he threw out a strike on a guy who went
on to murder to El Monty police officers, and what
he did violated the law, and eventually his own his
own deputy das had to sue him in court and
the judge said, yeah, what Gascon did was wrong against
the law, so you can't do it anymore. Too late
(19:23):
for that case. That guy was free and then he
eventually killed the killed the cops. Now there's an appeal
all the way this California Supreme Court. Yeah, what happened
was that judge overruled Gascone, so it went to an
appellate court. They agreed with the judge and overruled Gascone.
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Gascon has decided this is so important to him, this
directive about strikes. He's going to the California State Supreme
Court with his with his with his case. And the
new detail we just learned from Fox News is he's
on a very high powered attorney who apparently charges a lot.
His name is Neil Ka kat y'all. He's a former
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acting US Solicitor General. He actually represented al Gore in
the two thousand election dispute, and he's appeared before the
US Supreme Court dozens of times. He might be one
of the United States highest paid attorneys. Gascon is bringing
him on to argue his case before the California States
of the Court about charging strikes. That's our tax money
(20:30):
is going for a guy who tried I would say
it has to be nearly twenty fives doing it pro bono. Now,
an attorney representing the La County Deputy das is Nathan Hawkman,
who's also running for California Attorney General as a Republican
against Rob Bonta. He came in second in the primary.
So we're going to talk to Nathan Hawkman now and
(20:52):
again he's going to represent the La County. DA's basically
representing the public here, Yeah, against against gas own and
this Neil kat y'all, Nathan Hockman, Welcome to the John
and Ken Show again. How are you great to be on?
Very well, thank you. This is pretty outrageous, isn't it
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that we've got to pay this kind of money after
Gascon has been told repeatedly now that he's violated the
law by by throwing out strikes. It's actually incredible. I mean,
Gascon was actually told by the Court of Appeals that
he could he was not above the law, that he
was not an absolute sovereign who could do whatever he wanted,
(21:34):
including getting rid of the three strikes policy and having
a blanket policy to never charge a second or third strike. Ever, again,
the appeals court throughout that power and said you have
to comply with the law. Now Gascon is doing something
even more incredible. He's going ahead and saying I think
the three strikes law itself is unconstitutional. Usually that's the
(21:57):
argument of a defense attorney. He's now up the script
and he is acting as the basically super defense attorney
on behalf of criminals as opposed of victims in the public. Incredible.
Has this three strikes constitutionality been litigated yet? Oh, it's
been litigated. I mean three strikes passed in nineteen ninety four,
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so it's been on the books for twenty eight years.
There was a proposition with over seventy percent of the
people voting for it. It was also a law that
was passed by the state legislature at the same time.
This has gone through rounds and rounds of California Supreme
Court litigation affirming the constitutionality of three strikes. But now
Gascone is hiring one of the highest price attorneys in
(22:41):
America to try and throw out the law that gives
prosecutors the power to put the most violent and serious
offenders in jail for a very very long time. Again,
it's shocking that a prosecutor would be trying to do this.
Usually this is the realm of a defense attorney. But
if it's already been litigated over and over again, and
he's already lost in the lower courts. What are the
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odds that he's going to win this at the California
Supreme Court. Well, I mean, this is why he lost
it on before an LA Superior Court judge, why I
lost it between before three different California Pelot Court judges.
Most likely the California Supreme Courts not even going to
take this, you know, this writ that he is now
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asking that the appeal and this petition. Most likely they
will just reject it rather than hearing it again. Because
the constitutionality of three strikes is absolute and the fact
that a prosecutor is not above the law is one
of the fundamental premises in our law, because everyone is
subject to the law and gas Oncent app act as
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an absolute sovereign. Is there some provision in the law
that Gascone thinks gives him discretion? Sure, I mean there's
the idea that prosecutors only have extremely wide discretion, but
it's subjects to a few exceptions. And the exception is
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a law like three strikes law that says a prosecutor's
shell file a strike, a second or third strike if
the evidence warrants it, and then after it's filed, if
he can, if he wants and believes the evidence compels that,
he can move to dismiss it. But then he needs
the approval of the court ahead of time. He doesn't
need the approval of the court, which is what he's
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arguing for. But after he files it and then wants
to dismiss it, the court has to go along with that.
All right, So there's spotting with down below. There's no discretion.
He must file an original charge. He has the discretion
to ask the judge to dismiss it later on. He
has no discretion not to file it. But then he can.
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He has the discretion to move to dismiss but then
the judge has to agree with this. How is it
He has the power to hire somebody that costs this
much is his legal representative. He can just do this,
use the taxpayer money to hire this high payered, high
paid attorney. He has that power. But that is another
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reason that he needs to be recalled. I mean, if
ever you needed one more reason to recall someone is
that he's willing to pay the taxpayer's money. And interestingly,
he didn't use the California Attorney General's office, which I
find the shocking as well. I'm running for California Attorney General,
and if and the California Attorney General generally handles all
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appeals to the California Supreme Court. Gascon is bypassed in
the California Attorney General. We have not heard from Rob
Bonda whether he agrees with this strategy, and I'm assuming
he does, because Gaston and Bonta have been in complete
alliance and league endorse each other. They're part of the
let him go guys. And the assumption is that Rob
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Bonta is actually endorsing this strategy or else he would
oppose it and represent the people of the state of
California and say, the California Supreme Court, we want to
uphold the laws of propositions and state legislators. Does it
surprise you that he does this after the murder of
the two Almonte cops. Gascon is about his tone death
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as I've ever seen a district attorney. The fact that
he would do this in light of the deaths that
were caused by his own policy of not filing the
second strike or dismissing the second strike is again shocking
and overwhelmingly demonstrates the case as to why Gascon needs
to be recalled. So you're going to be arguing against
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this high powered attorney in the state Supreme Court. I've
had the pleasure of arguing against many high powered attorneys
throughout my thirty year career. You are a high powered attorney,
you are a high powered at There you go. I
appreciate that. Yeah, I've been a US Assistant Attorney General
and I've gone against the best that the other side
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has had to throw against us. But when you have
the law and you have the facts on your side,
you start out way ahead. And we have four judges
that have already considered this and ruled against Gaston, and
so I even predict the Supreme Court won't actually take
the petition for the review. When do you think this
case will be originally ruled on. I think the Supreme
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Court will most likely rule on this case within the
next month or two. On whether or not it's going
to take the petition. They can decide not to take
the petition, and then it's dead in the water. There's
no further place for Gaston to go. If they take
the petition, then there will be briefing and eventually most
likely arguments in the case. All right, Nathan, thanks for
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coming on, and we hope you don't have to argue
in court. We hope the California State Supreme Court just
reject this. It's pathetic. I think it's I think they'll
do the right thing. They'll reject it. And again, most
likely what we're hoping is that the voters, you know,
the recall gets on the ballot, and then the voters
vote for the recall and end the reign of King
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George Gaston in Lost Angeles forever. All right, there's Nathan Hockman.
Thanks very much for coming on again. Thanks again, appreciate it.
And of course he's will be on your ballot November
for California Attorney General against the incumbent Rock Bonta, and
clearly he's a far better choice than Rob Banta, who
is an acolyte of George Gascon. I. Guy Gascon wants
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to spend possibly twenty five hundred dollars an hour on this,
Neil cat y'all to represent him in the California State
Supreme Court to argue about not charging strikes when a
felon commits another crime, and that was the case with
the Almonte police officers shoot. That was Justin Flores who
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killed them. He had a strike on his record. Gascon
apparently just agreed with the strike. Remember that he just
he robbed his grandparents. So, I mean, you know he's
got drug problems. We didn't know he was going to be.
Nothing in his past indicating he was going to be
a violent person. This is what This is the danger
of this man. He decides these things, and you know
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what is always worth repeating. He had a blanket policy.
He told his deputy das do not charge strikes. Yet
when this case became known, he tried to make it
sound like, well, we looked at this particular case with
this Justin Flores carefully and he didn't have any violent background.
But when the truth was he had a blanket policy tonight,
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it didn't matter nobody's looking at his background. It was
just don't charge. Whatever the background of the perpetrator was,
or whatever Gascon's policy is is irrelevant. The law says
you must charge it. You shall shall means you have
no wiggle room, you don't have any discretion in that moment.
It's a must, You're required, and that's what the judge
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And then the appellate Court said that he can't override
the law, so he's just to make his own legal law.
Come up with all the theories he wants about the
guy's childhood or how he thinks the world ought to
work in the state of California, It doesn't. It simply doesn't.
You have to change the law, and that's not happening
anytime soon. All Right, we got more coming up. Oh yeah,
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Court decision on Roe v. Wade have faded, but apparently
(30:40):
there are still protesters that march outside of the home
of some of the justices. A story was featured about
Brett Kavanaugh. His neighbors are fed up at the protesters.
They are loud, they are obnoxious, they are abusive, and
it's been going on too long, and they're going after
the neighbors, not just Cavanon's and it's family, But the
(31:02):
neighbors said, the neighbors are complaining again. The neighbors are
telling the story here that they use drums and megaphones, drums,
and if you complain, they yell fu and f your children. Nice. Yeah,
they even shout ugly things at the kids. These are diseased.
(31:25):
I think they're there all night long. Some of the
families say, we just have to go out to dinner
and just disappear for hours because we can't put up
with it. When we tell them, can you keep it
down a little, they call us fascists, said one residence.
You know, they're violating federal law. There's a federal law
that's not being enforced that prohibits protesting to intimidate or
(31:47):
influence a Supreme Court justice at his home. There is
a specific law. There is a specific law. And in fact,
Ted Cruz was talking about this out loud the other day.
Why isn't Merrick Garland, who's the Attorney General, having the
Department of Justice enforced this law because they passed it
some years ago. Why can't the local police enforce it? Well,
(32:08):
it's a federal law. You know, up to a point,
you can protest on a public street. Or a public sidewalk.
I don't know how much the police could do, but
right now nobody's doing anything. No, they're starting to call
them Karen's when they complain. It's a stupid you know,
of all the stupid trendy little phrases around it, and
there's lots. The biggest dumbass phrase is when you call
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somebody a Karen, it's bad one. And I feel bad
for all the Karen's of the world. That was their
name years ago. It's just the sign of an idiot.
Just you know where they came from. One guy on
Reddit was bitching about his wife. Oh, and I guess
either his wife name was Karen or he called her Karen,
(32:52):
And suddenly this took off. This is what the morons
do at home as they read Reddit threads about somebody
else's bad marriage and they start these uh yeah. I
just started noticing these viral videos a couple of years ago,
when it's a white woman in a park is yelling
racist stuff at somebody, and suddenly I'm seeing the term Karen.
Here's another Karen's story, and I'm like, what's it with Karen?
(33:13):
They looked up and said, oh, that's the term they're
using their name. They're using for supposedly white women, a privilege. Yeah,
who act badly in any way? Right? Oh, sometimes they're
not acting badly. It's just the Wokesters disagree with their
they decide they're acting badly. Yeah, correctly. There was something
about you were talking about how most of the world's
(33:34):
moved on from this abortion debate. There actually was a
story in Real Clear Politics today with graphs tracking how
often the word abortion is mentioned in the news media
and how often it searched online by people on Google.
And it's dropped down to nothing. The media is not
mentioning it either, far less than they were. Oh you know,
(33:56):
it was it peaked on a certain date when when
the stories happen, and then it's dribbling along at the bottom.
And the same thing with the Google the Google mentions
because ultimately there's nothing more to the story. The Supreme
Court decided. There's going to be scuffles in a number
of states, but you know, it's over until we get
into the Supreme Court that takes up the case that
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might bring it back. Yeah, thirty years from now and
something like that. Ah, tim congding, go on with you. Hey,
let me ask you fellas if you had a daughter
who was like six months old and you named her Karen,
and then all this stuff came out, would you change
her name? I think it's a fad. Maybe not that
that would die out. I think you would, but yeah,
(34:37):
I think now probably the one time I tracked the
popularity of names, and names will peak. Sure, maybe there's
a famous actress, and then they'll drop. They'll drop like
to number three hundred and eighty two or off the shelf. Yeah,
And I don't know what causes the drops the increases.
You could see it's usually has something to do with fame.
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I mean, could you imagine, like if your name was
associated with something outside of you, like what it like,
Like let's say the term you know, like, oh, that
guy's a John, he's a bathroom. Yeah, and he's a prostitute.
Realized it is a bathroom. That's right, it's a bathroom
and it's a hooker user. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't realize that.
(35:21):
I know. Oh that's horrible. I feel horrible, you know.
And John was extremely popular in a certain it's a
bible bible names, and you know many of them turned
out to be serial killers. Yeah, right, exactly Yeah, John Hinckley,
John David Hinkley. If they weren't serial killers, they were
shooting at presidents. And so it's John Jacob Jingleheimer smit right.
(35:43):
Another one. You have a five day closure on the
westbound two ten Freeway through San Gabriel Valley that starts tonight.
That's gonna be hell for a lot of people. Several
people hospitalized after severe turbulence on American Airlines flight. That
is wild man. You know, people that didn't have their
seat belt up. They got hang around and they say,
put your That happened. We were coming back from Hawaii
(36:04):
when I was I don't know, in seventeen eighteen, and
we hit that turbulence and the people that weren't wearing
a seatbelt all hit their heads. Oh on the luggage wrecks.
I have my SABA and so I was fine. I
know you're worried about that chanel storm, Beverly Grove robbed,
smash and grab bad vibes and so we'll get to that. Yeah,
and so that is it all right? John can show
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