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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Now we have a packed show today one thirty. We're
gonna have sor I can't do it every time every
time he comes on, same thing. Don Mahallick, the senior
Secret Service agent and he's an ABC News Law Enforcement contributor.
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Sunday at State Farm Stadium, Charlie Kirk will be memorialized.
Donald Trump will be there, sold JD. Vance and a
lot of people in his administration and a lot of
Republican Party officials and a lot of celebrity political influencers.
And how are they going to do security for this one?
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I mean they're talking about a tremendous crowd. We'll talk
with Don mohllick about it. After two o'clock. Phil Brock
came on, comes on. He formally was the mayor of
Santa Monica until recently and was on their cancel. And
this week we discussed quite a bit about Santa Monica
basically going bankrupt and the La Times running this absurd
(01:09):
story about how well you know the real reason is
going to be UH settlement payouts for a pedophile who
molested one hundred and eighty children. Well, they haven't even
started have started cracking that case. And the wall Street,
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the third Street promenade is in complete disrepair. Santa Monica
Place is about three quarters empty now. They have lost
a lot of property tax money and sales tax money,
hotel tax money. Tourism is way down. I mean it's
it's and just just visitors to the city, you know,
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to go shopping and eating at restaurants is way down.
Everything's closing, and nobody wants to admit it's the homeless situation,
at least nobody in official Sata Monica government, and nobody
nobody at the La Times. And you know, I've said
this many times. I'm there almost every day. I have
to go there to pass through to other places. There's
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a few places i'm the fringe of Santa Monica that
I will go and buy stuff or go to eat at.
But here's something that happened today. I want to tell
you this story, and this is the root of all
the progressive, the progressive inflicted problems here in Los Angeles,
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Southern California, Santa Monica. The refusal to do the obvious thing.
I'm driving on my bagel run. This morning, I come
to an intersection. Straight ahead of me is a home,
really nice home made of stone. They have a low
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stone wall in front of the residence. And you go
to the left and it's all residential buildings, single family homes.
To the right, there's a business district. And I'm just
taking a cut through street and I'm making a left turn,
and this is in Santa Monica. And as I stop
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at the stop side before I make the left, I
see a homeless guy, a weird, disgusting homeless guy, sitting
on the low stone wall.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And boy, does he have a load of possessions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't remember if it was a shopping cart, but
it was lots of bags. It was lots of stuff.
He must have had a cart to some kind. No
way you could carry that by yourself. And he had
taken root on the wall, on the front wall of
this family's residence. The lawn was right behind him. There
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was no particular security.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Gate or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And he's acting agitated and he's waving his arms and
he's looking upset, and he's talking to imaginary people. If
you were walking down the block, you might not see
him until you were there because there was. I think
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there's some kind of hedges, some kind of wall, so
it would block the view as you were walking south,
him on your right, so if you walk by him,
you'd jump out of your clothing. He'd scare the hell
out of you. And there's there's schools nearby, there could
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be kids walking to school. They have a big shopping
center nearby, and there he is. I'm thinking, well, this
is this is frightening. I'm gonna call nine one one,
and I do. And here's what happened. I called nine
one one and I get a snotty woman on the
phone and a nine month line. I said, yeah, there's
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a homeless guy sitting on a wall. He's on somebody's
residential property. And I explained everything. I just explained to you.
Well how's he behaving? I go, he's agitated, he's waving
his arms. He's on somebody's private property. Well, what are
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you upset about that he's there? Well, you're more upset
that he's on someone's private property or about his behavior.
I guess it was just a private property. She's not interested.
I said, well, both, he's on someone's private property and
his behavior is threatening. It's menacing. Well, what's threatening and
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menacing about it? Does he have a weapon? I go,
I don't know if he has a She was so
snotty and accusatory. And this is the training, this is
the handbook they get at the at the Santa Monica,
the nine I'm getting interrogated.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm trying to help you out here.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just in case this guy is capable of doing to
some school kid what the homeless guy in Charlotte did
to that poor woman on the train.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Here's a tip. He looks like a lunatic.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
In no other place in the country, outside of these
progressive cities, at no other time in history would somebody
calling this to nine one one be treated this way.
I was treated like I had done something wrong. Well,
do you want us to send someone out? Well, of
course I do. What do you think I was lonely
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and I'm making conversation, Well you want to be called
back afterwards, and I thought, yeah, just see if you
follow through. Okay, So now here I am. I did
that at seven point fifteen this morning, and I am
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waiting for the callback, waiting for a text, waiting for something.
And here at seven fifty four I get this message.
You contacted the City of Santa Monica at seven forty
six am.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I contacted the City of Santa Monica at actually seven am.
I know because I was listening to the KFI news.
I was listening to Amy King Choo was in the
middle of a newscast. So the police didn't get the
message for forty five minutes. Then they sent me the
message again. Then it asked me to fill out a
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form with my feedback. Then and it just goes on
and on here. Thank you for your call to the
City of Santa Monica. That's what all these messages say. One
of these messages says, we apologize for the delay due
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to heavy call volume. Our staff is currently handling other
calls for service. We will respond to your call as
soon as possible. Well, this is in the nine o'clock hour.
They're two hours late. They're two hours late, and they're
telling me due to the heavy call volume.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
What heavy call volume at seven am?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
There's nothing going on in the city, unless unless all
of these homeless people are starting fires.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That might be true. I never got a call back.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And then by seven nine thirty eight, Well, Santa Monica
responded to your call.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Police personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They searched your area for the incident, but we're unable
to locate the incident or the persons. Well, right, because
you're two and a half hours late, so he could
have already killed him or lested many people by Now
what's wrong with them?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
What is wrong with them? Why do people put up
with this?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know what if people don't call in, I
bet you it's a lot of people going, yeah, that's
what I got, That's what I got. You call in
because maybe there's, you know, a burglar in the area,
maybe there's a homeless guy, crazy person. Well, well, what's
he doing? I mean, is he a threat? Why do
you think he's a threat? How's he acting? Is he
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just because he's on somebody's problem? I guarantee you, growing
up in my neighborhood, if this guy was on somebody's
property or first of all, the dads would have beaten
the pulp out of him, but they would have called
the police, and the police would not have asked any questions.
They would have shown up, throw him in the back
of the car and take him to a mental institution
or jail. And so nobody had these problems when we
were growing up. But this is Santa Monica, this is
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La too.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I just.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Eventually they sent me a message that corrected the time
that yeah, here it is seven oh four am.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I called.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know what to say. I don't know what's
going on, but I know these guys are all over
the place. There's hundreds, thousands of them. But instead of
showing up and taking them away, I get an argument
with a crazy lady from nine one one. Why would
I call nine one one. I'm going through an interrogation.
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When these people get arrested, they don't go through an interrogation.
I get the interrogation, I get the suspicion. I get well,
it's not like you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Really want to do this. Are you really going to
make us send somebody else?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You want us to call you now and tell you
what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
There's no way to run a city, a state, a county,
a police department on nine to one one. This is
absolutely absurd, absurd. And then you know, hey, look when
the guy climbs into your window in your bedroom and
does god knows what.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're warning you.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Coming up after one thirty. Don Mahallak, secret Service agent retired,
who is on with us frequently. He's the ABC News
legal analyst. He's gonna describe what the tremendous security is
going to be like at the stadium in Arizona for
Charlie Kirk's memorials that's coming up after one thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, it is unbelievable how.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Now the news media does not just slant the story,
They just flat out refused to tell you the truth
or to tell you what happened. It's beyond bias here,
it's beyond propaganda. They just pretend something doesn't exist. Such
as the La Times article on why Santa Monica is
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going into the toilet. They did not address homelessness, which
is the overwhelming reason beginning and end of the story
is out of control mental patience and out of control
drug addicts. Now, in the Charlie Kirk case, everybody who's
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paid any attention yesterday saw that Charlie Kirk's assassin was
a gay kid who had a male boyfriend who was
in transition to being a girl, and he was also
a furry.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And he.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Travis, I'm sorry, Travis Tyler Robinson wrote texts to his
partner about how more or less he couldn't take Charlie's
hate anymore and made it clear that that's the reason
he he killed Charlie Kirk. He didn't like what Kirk
was saying about trans and all the other related issues.
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The news was out there and still Caitlin Collins from CNN,
who hosts a show every night, she looks like your
annoying high school class president had ted Cruz on and
wouldn't admit that they found the motive. And the motive
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was Tyler Robinson being angry with Charlie Kirk's stance on
trans issues.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Play this clip.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
We're not even arguing about the facts here.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Just is false, Senator Caitlan fact hold on, say let
me answer your statement, because what you said is fact.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
With respect law enforce your You.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Don't want to go ahead, and I want to get
back to we just laid out the fact that you
just said. Law enforcement has not made out of motive
that is, Attorney General, that is objectively false.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Motive it was to be engaged in this information.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
She said that they don't have a motive. Will you
have a motive? And by time this thing ran last night,
the whole world knew what the motive was. It was
all over the media, it's all over social media, and
it was obvious anyway. But she comes out and says, well,
they don't have the motive, and and Cruz rightly just said,
you know, that's objectively false.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's crazy. Why are they doing that?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They don't want it's not good for the progressive mo
meant to have another transgender kid committing a murder. Well,
I I mean there's been There's been about a half
a dozen of them, little out of proportion to the
size of the population, don't you think. Then you had
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this ABC News reporter Matt Gutman. He's giving a report
about the texts from the Charlie Kirk assassination. Right, and
remember Tyler Robinson and this other guy, Lance Twiggs had
a romantic relationship, and so listen to Matt Gutman describe
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the personal text between Robinson and Twigs.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text
messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was on it. But also
it was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect. A very intimate tortrait into
this relationship and chip between the suspect's roommate and the
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suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,
calling him my love and I want to protect you,
my love.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it was this duality of someone.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Who the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of
Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in
front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances
of this case. And on the other hand, he was
speaking so.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Lovingly about his partner.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting press conference.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
David Touching, he's reading texts from a cold blood at
assassin guy stood on a roof in front of a
crowd of three thousand people and shot a guy in
the crowded ardor of his neck and wiped him out.
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He's apologized today later on in the hour, I'll read
you the apology. But the knee jerk from kateon Collins
is to pretend that there wasn't a trans issue that
was the motive for the killing. And then Matt Gutman's
gut reaction to looking at the assassin's text was well,
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that was very loving and touching what he was writing
to his partner. You see you go by their first
impulse there. When we come back Securities, it's gonna be
gigantic in Arizona for this Charlie Kirk memorial. We're gonna
have Don mahalakan the Secret Service agent retired and he's
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the ABC News analyst.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
This Sunday is going to be the Charlie Kirk Memorial
at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, just outside Phoenix,
home of the Phoenix Cardinals NFL team, and President Trump,
Vice President Vince and many of his members of his
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administration will be there. A lot of Republican political officials
and political influencers, and it's expected to draw enormous crowds,
as you can tell by the outpouring of grief and
defiance really over the last week after the shooting. Don
Mahallick is the retired senior Secret Service agent who also
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works as ABC News Law Enforcement contributor, and he's going
to come on with us. Don is good to have
you on again. What are they going to be doing
for security here because the capacity of the stadium obviously
must be something like, I don't know, sixty seventy thousand,
if not more, and they're probably going to get many,
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many more people just showing up at the venue.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, So the Secret Service has an advanced process that
they'll put into place. They're probably on the ground and
they've probably been on the ground for a couple of days,
and they'll work with the host committee and their state
in local county to kind of figure out the outlines
of the security and to cover all the basis transportation,
access control, air coverage, cyber coverage once in the event space,
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but that's going to look like. And they'll put those
plans together, different individuals working on different pieces of the plan,
and then I'll come over with the entire security architecture,
including the get it you know, the President arriving, the
VP arriving, and the Secret Service protect these ingress and
egress out of the site. That'll all come together as
the Secret Service does and has done all over the world.
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They've done large stadiums all over the world, so this
is not a new thing for them. It's just a
matter of resourcing it and time. They'll bring in extra
resources as they get closer to the event, because one
of the things they have to do before they even
started sweep the stadium to make sure the stadium is
clear of any threats. And then once they sweep the
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stadium and it's clear of threats, they have to hold
the stadium. And then once they hold the stadium, they'll
have to set up the access control points to allow
people to come in, which is why people are being
told to show at eight am to get into an
event that starts at think eleven o'clock or noon, So
that gap in time is for that access control piece
will also be on the lookout for individuals showing up
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that may cause a disruption, whether it's individuals that have
been identified as a potential threat but had an unusual
direction of interest towards the Secret Service protectees, or maybe
the event itself, or people out of potentially coming here
to close a problem and create a disturbance in the event,
because you don't want that to happen too with an
event like this. So all those pieces will come together
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to create a secure environment for the President and the
other officials there, and also for the public. Because the
Secret Service and as counterparts, have to also ensure that
the public also was kept safe.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They've had three super Bowls at this stadium over the
last seventeen years or so, and obviously all post nine
to eleven, so the Secret Service and all the other
security agencies, law enforcement, they're not unfamiliar with how to
handle this particular venue. They must have blueprints from the
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super Bowls that they've been able to that they'll be
able to follow.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
True, they'll be able to pull out or refer to
previous security plans, but they'll do the process from scratch
because don't want to make sure that all iSER dotted
teas across that there wasn't anything missed. And also with
the President and the other VIP's coming, they have to
account for that protecting movement in and out of the stadium.
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And they're also accounting for you know, threats and individuals
that perhaps you would be dealing with at a super Bowl.
They have to worry about that as well. So they're
going to be so there are those are pieces of
the event that generally speaking, the Super Bowl doesn't necessarily
have to worry about, that they have to account for,
and a run up and the run up to the
to the event.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And and how do how do you how do you
control how do I put this? How do you account
for the wild cards? I mean that that you know,
because you can control the ingress into the stadium, right,
everybody will have a ticket, You'll have metal detectors to
see if they're carrying anything damaging on them. But just
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you know the weird at of left field stuff. I mean,
do they have these these uh sessions where they tried
to imagine what could somebody do? How would they do it?
Especially in this kind of supercharged atmosphere. How do you
prepare for the unthinkable?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, so you always plan for the wild cards, small
and big. And one of the things people will see
in an around the stadium is a pretty heavy, significant
secret service and law enforcement presence position throughout the stadium.
They're probably going to tap in a National Guard too,
because of the size of the stadium, and so there'll
be a physical security presence all throughout the stadium, throughout
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where people are seated, so they'll see that. And those
are the eyes and ears in the reporting structure. If
a wild card happens, if a spontaneous protest breaks out,
or if somebody you know, some people start chanting ludicrous
things there. That's all built into the plant to have
a lack of a better term, a notification process and
then a react for us that could come in and
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if people need to be removed, they can be removed.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And what do you do about about bombs about people
smuggling stuff in their cars? You can't well you can't
really go through every car, can you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I mean, well, it all depends. So it depends on
the event, depends on the security architecture they put in
place for the event. But in some events they start
car they will sweep cars as they come near the
event site, depending on again what they're doing in that
particular event site. So it really depends on how they
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put the security architecture together, I'm pretty sure. And if
they don't sweep the cars coming in, they may have
sweeping the parking lot as the event is building and
running knines and other technical assets through the parking lot
to detect these kind of things and to sort of
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and that way if somebody does happen to bring something
in a car, they can detect it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I know Trump is alluded to wanting to investigate a
lot of activist groups, left wing groups that might be
might have been part of the plot or might empathize
or cheer happened to Charlie Kirk. That's another factor, right,
that somehow one of these groups will will infiltrate in
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order to further the damage. And I imagine that they are.
FBI is probably monitoring these kinds of groups.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Now, I would think that anybody that is saying negative, disgusting,
violent things about Kirk is on somebody's radar, and they're
monitoring them. And for the Secret Service, those that have popped,
let's say the loudest and the brightest, they're going to
be on the look after these individuals coming to the
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event site and they and if they're identified, they will
be interdicted. They'll be questions, and they'll make a determination
whether the individual's coming just to attend the event or
whether they're going to come to cause the problem. That's absent.
Of course, if somebody has a criminal history, that's another issue.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All Right, Don Muhallic, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Thanks John, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
All Right, ABC News law enforcement contributor and a retired
senior Secret Service agent. When we come back, I mentioned
before we played your little clip of this ABC News
reporter and his strange description of the killers loving texts
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to his trans partners as he took responsibility for the killing.
We're gonna read his apology coming up next. And this
same reporter five years ago filed an extremely upsetting and
erroneous report regarding the Kobe Kobe Bryant crash. I'll tell
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you about that. So this this guy has a history
just being bad at his bad at his job, but
he's one of the top national correspondents for ABC. It's
really strange.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I played a little while back ABC News reporter Matt
Gutman who was reading texts from the Charlie Kirk assassin
Tyler Robinson, and he called him very touching. If he's
just joining us, I'm going to play it again, play
cup three again.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
If we have seen an alleged murder with such specific
text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was on it. But also
it was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect. A very intimate tortrait into
this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself,
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with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling
him my love and I want to protect.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You, my love.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said,
not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd,
but was doing it in front of children, which is
one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on
the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner.
So very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting Prescott.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You believe that Tyler Robinson was writing to his trans partner,
and because of the way Robinson perceived Charlie Kirk's views,
he thought it was appropriate to assassinate Charlie Kirk in
front of Kirk's wife and children and thousands of other attendees,
and then reported on what happened back to the partner
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in a very touching, loving way. That's an ABC News reporter,
Matt Gutman, So he posted this today yesterday, I tried
to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold blooded assassination
of Charlie Kirk a man who dedicated his life to
public dialogue and the personal disturbing texts read aloud by
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the Utah County Attorney at the press conference. Yeah, but
the Utah County District Attorney did not call him deeply touching.
Regret that my words did not make that clear. But
let there be zero doubt here unequivocally condemned this horrific
crime and the pain had caused Charlie Kirk's family, those
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who were forced to witness it at UVU, and the
millions of people he inspired. That's not much of an
apology that he deeply regrets. His words did not make
it clear. It made it clear that this reporter was
quite emotional. He thought it was such a wonderful, loving
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message that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Tyler Robinson sent.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But the reason he killed Kirk is because he had
a trans partner and he was honored defending his honor.
And then somebody posted under Gutman's alleged apology, a replay
of what Matt Gutman did on January twenty sixth, twenty twenty.
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He was here in Los angele Us. Remember this today,
I inaccurately reported It was believed that four of Kobe
Bryant's children were on board that flight and the helicopter
crashed into the mountain. That is incorrect. I apologize to
Kobe's family, friends and our viewers. So he wrongly, he
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wrongly reported that four of Kobe's kids had died in
that crash. It was one which obulously horrific. He got
that completely wrong without checking it. Can you imagine the horror?
And do you imagine the emotional damage that caused even
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beyond and but let's see what's his title again, just
in case you see him on TV.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think he's the.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He's the chief national correspondent. There you go, Chief national correspondent.
That's the best they have. That's the number one guy
that they send out to cover the big national stories
because he gets it right and he hits chest the
right tone every time. Why was he so emotional about Tyler?
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Tyler Robinson's love note? All killers, murderers, they have many
of them have wives and girlfriends. Even Hitler had a
girlfriend right he was underground with in the bunker. Sure
he wrote beautiful loving poetry, all right. Phil Brock's coming
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on the former mayor of Santa Monica and former council
member and he was the only sane one left, and
of course he didn't survive the last election. And we
talked yesterday at length about the La Ti Hims absurd
story about Santa Monica's financial disaster, barely even mentioning the
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out of control homeless situation that is crippled and is
destroying Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That is next.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
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Now we have a packed show today one thirty. We're
gonna have sor I can't do it every time every
time he comes on, same thing. Don Mahallick, the senior
Secret Service agent and he's an ABC News Law Enforcement contributor.
(00:23):
Sunday at State Farm Stadium, Charlie Kirk will be memorialized.
Donald Trump will be there, sold JD. Vance and a
lot of people in his administration and a lot of
Republican Party officials and a lot of celebrity political influencers.
And how are they going to do security for this one?
(00:45):
I mean they're talking about a tremendous crowd. We'll talk
with Don mohllick about it. After two o'clock. Phil Brock
came on, comes on. He formally was the mayor of
Santa Monica until recently and was on their cancel. And
this week we discussed quite a bit about Santa Monica
basically going bankrupt and the La Times running this absurd
(01:09):
story about how well you know the real reason is
going to be UH settlement payouts for a pedophile who
molested one hundred and eighty children. Well, they haven't even
started have started cracking that case. And the wall Street,
(01:36):
the third Street promenade is in complete disrepair. Santa Monica
Place is about three quarters empty now. They have lost
a lot of property tax money and sales tax money,
hotel tax money. Tourism is way down. I mean it's
it's and just just visitors to the city, you know,
(01:58):
to go shopping and eating at restaurants is way down.
Everything's closing, and nobody wants to admit it's the homeless situation,
at least nobody in official Sata Monica government, and nobody
nobody at the La Times. And you know, I've said
this many times. I'm there almost every day. I have
to go there to pass through to other places. There's
(02:19):
a few places i'm the fringe of Santa Monica that
I will go and buy stuff or go to eat at.
But here's something that happened today. I want to tell
you this story, and this is the root of all
the progressive, the progressive inflicted problems here in Los Angeles,
(02:40):
Southern California, Santa Monica. The refusal to do the obvious thing.
I'm driving on my bagel run. This morning, I come
to an intersection. Straight ahead of me is a home,
really nice home made of stone. They have a low
(03:02):
stone wall in front of the residence. And you go
to the left and it's all residential buildings, single family homes.
To the right, there's a business district. And I'm just
taking a cut through street and I'm making a left turn,
and this is in Santa Monica. And as I stop
(03:23):
at the stop side before I make the left, I
see a homeless guy, a weird, disgusting homeless guy, sitting
on the low stone wall.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And boy, does he have a load of possessions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't remember if it was a shopping cart, but
it was lots of bags. It was lots of stuff.
He must have had a cart to some kind. No
way you could carry that by yourself. And he had
taken root on the wall, on the front wall of
this family's residence. The lawn was right behind him. There
(04:03):
was no particular security.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Gate or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And he's acting agitated and he's waving his arms and
he's looking upset, and he's talking to imaginary people. If
you were walking down the block, you might not see
him until you were there because there was. I think
(04:27):
there's some kind of hedges, some kind of wall, so
it would block the view as you were walking south,
him on your right, so if you walk by him,
you'd jump out of your clothing. He'd scare the hell
out of you. And there's there's schools nearby, there could
(04:47):
be kids walking to school. They have a big shopping
center nearby, and there he is. I'm thinking, well, this
is this is frightening. I'm gonna call nine one one,
and I do. And here's what happened. I called nine
one one and I get a snotty woman on the
phone and a nine month line. I said, yeah, there's
(05:12):
a homeless guy sitting on a wall. He's on somebody's
residential property. And I explained everything. I just explained to you.
Well how's he behaving? I go, he's agitated, he's waving
his arms. He's on somebody's private property. Well, what are
(05:33):
you upset about that he's there? Well, you're more upset
that he's on someone's private property or about his behavior.
I guess it was just a private property. She's not interested.
I said, well, both, he's on someone's private property and
his behavior is threatening. It's menacing. Well, what's threatening and
(05:56):
menacing about it? Does he have a weapon? I go,
I don't know if he has a She was so
snotty and accusatory. And this is the training, this is
the handbook they get at the at the Santa Monica,
the nine I'm getting interrogated.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm trying to help you out here.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just in case this guy is capable of doing to
some school kid what the homeless guy in Charlotte did
to that poor woman on the train.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Here's a tip. He looks like a lunatic.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
In no other place in the country, outside of these
progressive cities, at no other time in history would somebody
calling this to nine one one be treated this way.
I was treated like I had done something wrong. Well,
do you want us to send someone out? Well, of
course I do. What do you think I was lonely
(06:51):
and I'm making conversation, Well you want to be called
back afterwards, and I thought, yeah, just see if you
follow through. Okay, So now here I am. I did
that at seven point fifteen this morning, and I am
(07:13):
waiting for the callback, waiting for a text, waiting for something.
And here at seven fifty four I get this message.
You contacted the City of Santa Monica at seven forty
six am.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I contacted the City of Santa Monica at actually seven am.
I know because I was listening to the KFI news.
I was listening to Amy King Choo was in the
middle of a newscast. So the police didn't get the
message for forty five minutes. Then they sent me the
message again. Then it asked me to fill out a
(07:54):
form with my feedback. Then and it just goes on
and on here. Thank you for your call to the
City of Santa Monica. That's what all these messages say. One
of these messages says, we apologize for the delay due
(08:15):
to heavy call volume. Our staff is currently handling other
calls for service. We will respond to your call as
soon as possible. Well, this is in the nine o'clock hour.
They're two hours late. They're two hours late, and they're
telling me due to the heavy call volume.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
What heavy call volume at seven am?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
There's nothing going on in the city, unless unless all
of these homeless people are starting fires.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That might be true. I never got a call back.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And then by seven nine thirty eight, Well, Santa Monica
responded to your call.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Police personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They searched your area for the incident, but we're unable
to locate the incident or the persons. Well, right, because
you're two and a half hours late, so he could
have already killed him or lested many people by Now
what's wrong with them?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
What is wrong with them? Why do people put up
with this?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I don't know what if people don't call in, I
bet you it's a lot of people going, yeah, that's
what I got, That's what I got. You call in
because maybe there's, you know, a burglar in the area,
maybe there's a homeless guy, crazy person. Well, well, what's
he doing? I mean, is he a threat? Why do
you think he's a threat? How's he acting? Is he
(09:44):
just because he's on somebody's problem? I guarantee you, growing
up in my neighborhood, if this guy was on somebody's
property or first of all, the dads would have beaten
the pulp out of him, but they would have called
the police, and the police would not have asked any questions.
They would have shown up, throw him in the back
of the car and take him to a mental institution
or jail. And so nobody had these problems when we
were growing up. But this is Santa Monica, this is
(10:07):
La too.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I just.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Eventually they sent me a message that corrected the time
that yeah, here it is seven oh four am.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I called.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know what to say. I don't know what's
going on, but I know these guys are all over
the place. There's hundreds, thousands of them. But instead of
showing up and taking them away, I get an argument
with a crazy lady from nine one one. Why would
I call nine one one. I'm going through an interrogation.
(10:44):
When these people get arrested, they don't go through an interrogation.
I get the interrogation, I get the suspicion. I get well,
it's not like you.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Really want to do this. Are you really going to
make us send somebody else?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You want us to call you now and tell you
what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
There's no way to run a city, a state, a county,
a police department on nine to one one. This is
absolutely absurd, absurd. And then you know, hey, look when
the guy climbs into your window in your bedroom and
does god knows what.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're warning you.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Coming up after one thirty. Don Mahallak, secret Service agent retired,
who is on with us frequently. He's the ABC News
legal analyst. He's gonna describe what the tremendous security is
going to be like at the stadium in Arizona for
Charlie Kirk's memorials that's coming up after one thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, it is unbelievable how.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Now the news media does not just slant the story,
They just flat out refused to tell you the truth
or to tell you what happened. It's beyond bias here,
it's beyond propaganda. They just pretend something doesn't exist. Such
as the La Times article on why Santa Monica is
(12:17):
going into the toilet. They did not address homelessness, which
is the overwhelming reason beginning and end of the story
is out of control mental patience and out of control
drug addicts. Now, in the Charlie Kirk case, everybody who's
(12:40):
paid any attention yesterday saw that Charlie Kirk's assassin was
a gay kid who had a male boyfriend who was
in transition to being a girl, and he was also
a furry.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And he.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Travis, I'm sorry, Travis Tyler Robinson wrote texts to his
partner about how more or less he couldn't take Charlie's
hate anymore and made it clear that that's the reason
he he killed Charlie Kirk. He didn't like what Kirk
was saying about trans and all the other related issues.
(13:25):
The news was out there and still Caitlin Collins from CNN,
who hosts a show every night, she looks like your
annoying high school class president had ted Cruz on and
wouldn't admit that they found the motive. And the motive
(13:45):
was Tyler Robinson being angry with Charlie Kirk's stance on
trans issues.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Play this clip.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
We're not even arguing about the facts here.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Just is false, Senator Caitlan fact hold on, say let
me answer your statement, because what you said is fact.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
With respect law enforce your You.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Don't want to go ahead, and I want to get
back to we just laid out the fact that you
just said. Law enforcement has not made out of motive
that is, Attorney General, that is objectively false.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Motive it was to be engaged in this information.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
She said that they don't have a motive. Will you
have a motive? And by time this thing ran last night,
the whole world knew what the motive was. It was
all over the media, it's all over social media, and
it was obvious anyway. But she comes out and says, well,
they don't have the motive, and and Cruz rightly just said,
you know, that's objectively false.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's crazy. Why are they doing that?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They don't want it's not good for the progressive mo
meant to have another transgender kid committing a murder. Well,
I I mean there's been There's been about a half
a dozen of them, little out of proportion to the
size of the population, don't you think. Then you had
(15:16):
this ABC News reporter Matt Gutman. He's giving a report
about the texts from the Charlie Kirk assassination. Right, and
remember Tyler Robinson and this other guy, Lance Twiggs had
a romantic relationship, and so listen to Matt Gutman describe
(15:40):
the personal text between Robinson and Twigs.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text
messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was on it. But also
it was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect. A very intimate tortrait into
this relationship and chip between the suspect's roommate and the
(16:03):
suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,
calling him my love and I want to protect you,
my love.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it was this duality of someone.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Who the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of
Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in
front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances
of this case. And on the other hand, he was
speaking so.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Lovingly about his partner.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting press conference.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
David Touching, he's reading texts from a cold blood at
assassin guy stood on a roof in front of a
crowd of three thousand people and shot a guy in
the crowded ardor of his neck and wiped him out.
(16:54):
He's apologized today later on in the hour, I'll read
you the apology. But the knee jerk from kateon Collins
is to pretend that there wasn't a trans issue that
was the motive for the killing. And then Matt Gutman's
gut reaction to looking at the assassin's text was well,
(17:16):
that was very loving and touching what he was writing
to his partner. You see you go by their first
impulse there. When we come back Securities, it's gonna be
gigantic in Arizona for this Charlie Kirk memorial. We're gonna
have Don mahalakan the Secret Service agent retired and he's
(17:37):
the ABC News analyst.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
This Sunday is going to be the Charlie Kirk Memorial
at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, just outside Phoenix,
home of the Phoenix Cardinals NFL team, and President Trump,
Vice President Vince and many of his members of his
(18:05):
administration will be there. A lot of Republican political officials
and political influencers, and it's expected to draw enormous crowds,
as you can tell by the outpouring of grief and
defiance really over the last week after the shooting. Don
Mahallick is the retired senior Secret Service agent who also
(18:30):
works as ABC News Law Enforcement contributor, and he's going
to come on with us. Don is good to have
you on again. What are they going to be doing
for security here because the capacity of the stadium obviously
must be something like, I don't know, sixty seventy thousand,
if not more, and they're probably going to get many,
(18:52):
many more people just showing up at the venue.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, So the Secret Service has an advanced process that
they'll put into place. They're probably on the ground and
they've probably been on the ground for a couple of days,
and they'll work with the host committee and their state
in local county to kind of figure out the outlines
of the security and to cover all the basis transportation,
access control, air coverage, cyber coverage once in the event space,
(19:21):
but that's going to look like. And they'll put those
plans together, different individuals working on different pieces of the plan,
and then I'll come over with the entire security architecture,
including the get it you know, the President arriving, the
VP arriving, and the Secret Service protect these ingress and
egress out of the site. That'll all come together as
the Secret Service does and has done all over the world.
(19:44):
They've done large stadiums all over the world, so this
is not a new thing for them. It's just a
matter of resourcing it and time. They'll bring in extra
resources as they get closer to the event, because one
of the things they have to do before they even
started sweep the stadium to make sure the stadium is
clear of any threats. And then once they sweep the
(20:05):
stadium and it's clear of threats, they have to hold
the stadium. And then once they hold the stadium, they'll
have to set up the access control points to allow
people to come in, which is why people are being
told to show at eight am to get into an
event that starts at think eleven o'clock or noon, So
that gap in time is for that access control piece
will also be on the lookout for individuals showing up
(20:27):
that may cause a disruption, whether it's individuals that have
been identified as a potential threat but had an unusual
direction of interest towards the Secret Service protectees, or maybe
the event itself, or people out of potentially coming here
to close a problem and create a disturbance in the event,
because you don't want that to happen too with an
event like this. So all those pieces will come together
(20:51):
to create a secure environment for the President and the
other officials there, and also for the public. Because the
Secret Service and as counterparts, have to also ensure that
the public also was kept safe.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They've had three super Bowls at this stadium over the
last seventeen years or so, and obviously all post nine
to eleven, so the Secret Service and all the other
security agencies, law enforcement, they're not unfamiliar with how to
handle this particular venue. They must have blueprints from the
(21:23):
super Bowls that they've been able to that they'll be
able to follow.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
True, they'll be able to pull out or refer to
previous security plans, but they'll do the process from scratch
because don't want to make sure that all iSER dotted
teas across that there wasn't anything missed. And also with
the President and the other VIP's coming, they have to
account for that protecting movement in and out of the stadium.
(21:52):
And they're also accounting for you know, threats and individuals
that perhaps you would be dealing with at a super Bowl.
They have to worry about that as well. So they're
going to be so there are those are pieces of
the event that generally speaking, the Super Bowl doesn't necessarily
have to worry about, that they have to account for,
and a run up and the run up to the
to the event.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And and how do how do you how do you
control how do I put this? How do you account
for the wild cards? I mean that that you know,
because you can control the ingress into the stadium, right,
everybody will have a ticket, You'll have metal detectors to
see if they're carrying anything damaging on them. But just
(22:38):
you know the weird at of left field stuff. I mean,
do they have these these uh sessions where they tried
to imagine what could somebody do? How would they do it?
Especially in this kind of supercharged atmosphere. How do you
prepare for the unthinkable?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, so you always plan for the wild cards, small
and big. And one of the things people will see
in an around the stadium is a pretty heavy, significant
secret service and law enforcement presence position throughout the stadium.
They're probably going to tap in a National Guard too,
because of the size of the stadium, and so there'll
be a physical security presence all throughout the stadium, throughout
(23:20):
where people are seated, so they'll see that. And those
are the eyes and ears in the reporting structure. If
a wild card happens, if a spontaneous protest breaks out,
or if somebody you know, some people start chanting ludicrous
things there. That's all built into the plant to have
a lack of a better term, a notification process and
then a react for us that could come in and
(23:42):
if people need to be removed, they can be removed.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
And what do you do about about bombs about people
smuggling stuff in their cars? You can't well you can't
really go through every car, can you.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I mean, well, it all depends. So it depends on
the event, depends on the security architecture they put in
place for the event. But in some events they start
car they will sweep cars as they come near the
event site, depending on again what they're doing in that
particular event site. So it really depends on how they
(24:19):
put the security architecture together, I'm pretty sure. And if
they don't sweep the cars coming in, they may have
sweeping the parking lot as the event is building and
running knines and other technical assets through the parking lot
to detect these kind of things and to sort of
(24:40):
and that way if somebody does happen to bring something
in a car, they can detect it sooner rather than later.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I know Trump is alluded to wanting to investigate a
lot of activist groups, left wing groups that might be
might have been part of the plot or might empathize
or cheer happened to Charlie Kirk. That's another factor, right,
that somehow one of these groups will will infiltrate in
(25:07):
order to further the damage. And I imagine that they are.
FBI is probably monitoring these kinds of groups.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Now, I would think that anybody that is saying negative, disgusting,
violent things about Kirk is on somebody's radar, and they're
monitoring them. And for the Secret Service, those that have popped,
let's say the loudest and the brightest, they're going to
be on the look after these individuals coming to the
(25:34):
event site and they and if they're identified, they will
be interdicted. They'll be questions, and they'll make a determination
whether the individual's coming just to attend the event or
whether they're going to come to cause the problem. That's absent.
Of course, if somebody has a criminal history, that's another issue.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All Right, Don Muhallic, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Thanks John, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
All Right, ABC News law enforcement contributor and a retired
senior Secret Service agent. When we come back, I mentioned
before we played your little clip of this ABC News
reporter and his strange description of the killers loving texts
(26:15):
to his trans partners as he took responsibility for the killing.
We're gonna read his apology coming up next. And this
same reporter five years ago filed an extremely upsetting and
erroneous report regarding the Kobe Kobe Bryant crash. I'll tell
(26:40):
you about that. So this this guy has a history
just being bad at his bad at his job, but
he's one of the top national correspondents for ABC. It's
really strange.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I played a little while back ABC News reporter Matt
Gutman who was reading texts from the Charlie Kirk assassin
Tyler Robinson, and he called him very touching. If he's
just joining us, I'm going to play it again, play
cup three again.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
If we have seen an alleged murder with such specific
text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was on it. But also
it was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect. A very intimate tortrait into
this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself,
(27:35):
with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling
him my love and I want to protect.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You, my love.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So it was this duality of someone who, the attorney said,
not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd,
but was doing it in front of children, which is
one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on
the other hand, he was speaking so lovingly about his partner.
So very interesting, as Pierre said, riveting Prescott.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You believe that Tyler Robinson was writing to his trans partner,
and because of the way Robinson perceived Charlie Kirk's views,
he thought it was appropriate to assassinate Charlie Kirk in
front of Kirk's wife and children and thousands of other attendees,
and then reported on what happened back to the partner
(28:25):
in a very touching, loving way. That's an ABC News reporter,
Matt Gutman, So he posted this today yesterday, I tried
to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold blooded assassination
of Charlie Kirk a man who dedicated his life to
public dialogue and the personal disturbing texts read aloud by
(28:47):
the Utah County Attorney at the press conference. Yeah, but
the Utah County District Attorney did not call him deeply touching.
Regret that my words did not make that clear. But
let there be zero doubt here unequivocally condemned this horrific
crime and the pain had caused Charlie Kirk's family, those
(29:09):
who were forced to witness it at UVU, and the
millions of people he inspired. That's not much of an
apology that he deeply regrets. His words did not make
it clear. It made it clear that this reporter was
quite emotional. He thought it was such a wonderful, loving
(29:30):
message that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Tyler Robinson sent.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
But the reason he killed Kirk is because he had
a trans partner and he was honored defending his honor.
And then somebody posted under Gutman's alleged apology, a replay
of what Matt Gutman did on January twenty sixth, twenty twenty.
(29:58):
He was here in Los angele Us. Remember this today,
I inaccurately reported It was believed that four of Kobe
Bryant's children were on board that flight and the helicopter
crashed into the mountain. That is incorrect. I apologize to
Kobe's family, friends and our viewers. So he wrongly, he
(30:24):
wrongly reported that four of Kobe's kids had died in
that crash. It was one which obulously horrific. He got
that completely wrong without checking it. Can you imagine the horror?
And do you imagine the emotional damage that caused even
(30:45):
beyond and but let's see what's his title again, just
in case you see him on TV.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think he's the.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
He's the chief national correspondent. There you go, Chief national correspondent.
That's the best they have. That's the number one guy
that they send out to cover the big national stories
because he gets it right and he hits chest the
right tone every time. Why was he so emotional about Tyler?
(31:23):
Tyler Robinson's love note? All killers, murderers, they have many
of them have wives and girlfriends. Even Hitler had a
girlfriend right he was underground with in the bunker. Sure
he wrote beautiful loving poetry, all right. Phil Brock's coming
(31:45):
on the former mayor of Santa Monica and former council
member and he was the only sane one left, and
of course he didn't survive the last election. And we
talked yesterday at length about the La Ti Hims absurd
story about Santa Monica's financial disaster, barely even mentioning the
(32:07):
out of control homeless situation that is crippled and is
destroying Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That is next.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
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