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September 3, 2025 37 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (09/03) - Michael Monks comes on the show to talk about how businesses destroyed by the riots could receive taxpayer funds. LA has lost it's way and it's all because of the lack of leadership from local officials. Update on the influencer who was taken from her car by ICE on a livestream. Southwest Airlines is changing their seating policy for overweight people. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm sitting here listening to Debra's news and I hear
a Michael Monks report, and I go, what the heck

(00:23):
is this about? I want to know more about this immediately,
and bring me Michael Monks, bring me the head of
Michael Monks. I want to know what's going on. Welcome Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I am fine keeping things clear here in Burbank? Just
for you, let me tell you. I hear that we,
the taxpayers of Los Angeles. I'm assuming taxpayers in this case,
are going to be giving money to businesses that were
harmed by the ice riots. And I'm thinking, well, first

(00:57):
you trigger the riots, and then you deny they actually
happened when the National Guard came.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
In, and now you're going to pay for the for.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
The damage done to the businesses by the riots that
never happened and that we didn't need help to quell
is that what they're trying to say here.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's certainly one way to frame it. John, certainly no
doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
And look, the past couple of days have seen a
flurry of activity related to how do we help not
just the businesses who have been affected by what happened
in June, but also the families of illegal immigrants that
have been swept up in federal immigration enforcement, both at
the county level and at La City Hall. So what
happened today, that news report that you heard, is related

(01:41):
to helping businesses in downtown La recover. As you know,
there were some there was some unpleasantness back in June
when the federal plan enforcement first started.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
When do you get a job as one of those
spinning spokes holes they pay a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
If I could use you as a reference, I think
I'm in as a lock one days to work here.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's what he's doing now, well a few of them.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, So what happened was obviously there were protests and
they were large, but there were also some bad actors
who did not just want to protest immigration enforcement, but
wanted to take advantage of law enforcement being distracted, so
they looted, and they really damaged a lot of businesses
in downtown LA so Mayor Bass had to call a
curfew for several days. So not only were businesses harmed

(02:31):
by the vandalism and the violence and the looting, they
were harmed by not being able to be open for
an extended period of time. And there were boarded up
windows and doors for a long period of time. And
now the city says we should give these folks some money.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
That happens after all these ridiculous riots, after the George
Floyd riots. I mean, there are blocks and blocks on
the west side of LA and Santa Monica that never
came back. They're still empty. And that was the final
nail in their coffin after the COVID nonsense.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
And downtown has been an other thing particularly hurt by
COVID as well, because COVID affected businesses all across the region,
but it also affected, you know, how people worked, and
a lot of people are supposed to be at work
in downtown Los Angeles and they're not. So the economy
in downtown LA has never fully recovered from that period,
and now it has this.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
On top of it.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So City Councilwoman Isabelle Herado pushed for this motion today.
It's not in effect yet. What it's asking for is
a few departments to get their heads together and find
out if there is any money for this. There's already
some indications that there is some money for this. The
City administrator says there's six hundred and fifty thousand dollars

(03:47):
available within the Economic Development Trust Fund for what they're
calling the DTLA Resilient Legacy Business Grant.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
The DTLA Resilient Legacy Business Grant. I think that was
the phrase you mention in the story that made me go,
what the f is this? They?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
What is they say? Riot? A riot response fund that
they have.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, it seems like there's not just this push, but
there's also a motion floating around that City Councilman Monic
Rodriguez has presented it's not gone to the floor yet,
that references what they call legacy businesses. You may recall
that Cole's famous for its French dip sandwich. It's been
there for one hundred and twenty some odd years closing.
That's what motivated that particular motion. They're calling them legacy businesses.

(04:31):
They've been there a long time, they're part of the
fabric and identity of Los Angeles, and they're struggling to survive.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So they're trying to I got an idea, how about
they start a fund and get rid of all the
homelessness and the criminals, and then you wouldn't have so
many businesses on hard times that you'd give them these
temporary bailouts.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I tell you, it's been interesting.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why John, I'm sorry, I just wanted to say that
that's the residence of Downtown LA. Their Residence Association that
they formed a year or so ago, has finally become very,
very vocal. Rather than just engaging in civic boosterism, They've
they put out a survey last week that I reported
on that showed that both residents and people who work
in Downtown and Layer are absolutely fed up with the conditions

(05:13):
down there.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
The HomeOS. It is discussing you live there, and it
is disgusting.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And at first I was a little timid about this
organization because I understand that you want to, you know,
prop up the neighborhood and say it's good to come down,
and it is, certainly, but you can't gloss over these
very obvious challenges. They went to city Hall yesterday and
said y'all need to look at this stuff. Please put
more police down here on foot, stop allowing open air
drug use at will, and please clean up these disgusting streets.

(05:42):
So you're starting to see residents down there start to
become very vocal about the conditions of downtown Los.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Angeles that they have to that that is good to hear.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
That is like the best news of all is that
people are starting to scream and get in the face
of these idiots running running city hall.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I wanted to let you know before you kick me off.
I told Eric that we call this cobalt kibble when
I find some little pieces of news that I know
you're gonna love.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Part of this same motion.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh, I started salivating and barking, and yeah, I'm ready
to bite you in the leg.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, here you go, doggie.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
They are also looking at engaging philanthropic organizations to provide
direct cash assistance to families that have been separated and
workers who have lost their jobs or experienced.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Day loss and income.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
When one of these protests start, have the police throw
everybody off the street immediately, because eventually they do. Eventually
they declare an unlawful assembly. Do that in minute one
if they haven't put in for a permit and been
granted a permit to march, you know, at seven in
the morning on a Sunday. Tell them out now, don't
let it get started, you know, and hit them with

(06:54):
overwhelming force.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
There were certainly a lot of criticism to the way
that the early days of immigration enforcement started to hear
what the local response was. And I'm sure we haven't
seen our last dust up, so we'll see how they've.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Changed their ways if they have. All right, very good, Michael,
thank you, my pleasure, My belly is full. I'm satisfied.
All right, Michael Monks CAFI News. Well, we'll talk more
when we come back.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
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Speaker 1 (07:30):
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(08:13):
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eighty six. You know that that Michael Monks report, which
which I was actually was paying attention to Nebra's news
for once.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, so don't get on my case today.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Okay, I was listening and I'm hearing this and you know,
maybe some people it was an ordinary story, and I said, no,
this encapsulates everything.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
This encapulates.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The bass and everybody else in Los Angeles allows things
to fester, fester, fester, get out of control, goes crazy.
People are harmed, businesses are harmed, and then it's like, oh,
go to make it up to them, and you got
to start shoveling out tax money. Where if you had
taken decisive action immediately, overwhelming overwhelming force if necessary, immediately,

(09:12):
then none of the damage happens. You just have to
have the guts to do it because we're right, they're wrong.
And as soon as all these talk about another taxpayer
paid group, these these immigration activists like Churla, once they taught,
went to the streets and used social media in their

(09:34):
rapid response network to gather up the resistance, with Karen
Bess cheering all the way she was appearing with activists,
she was repeating the rapid resistance contact information. You know,
she helped create the frenzy. It goes and it starts

(09:54):
going crazy. Remember the police chief Jim McDonald said, we
were overh them there. That's when Trump sent in the
National Guard and the Marines. And yeah, they play the
audio of that.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No no, no, no, not that, not that not wait,
that's relater anyway. So that's when Trump said in the
National Guard.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And now we find out, you know a lot of
businesses were really destroyed. We've got a lot of animals
running around in Los Angeles and everybody knows it.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And they wait, they're not, they're not.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
They don't care about illegal immigration, they don't care about
George Floyd, they don't care about any issues. They just
know that when there's some kind of protest that distracts
the police and now it's time, you know, to take
a baseball bat and smash a window and you know,
grab thirty pairs of sneakers or whatever the hell they do,
just because they enjoy destroying things. You know, it is fun.

(10:57):
Do you ever had a chance to destroy something? You know,
people get, people get a surge out of it. It's exciting,
especially for guys with too much testosterone. So what you
have to do is do overwhelming force from the beginning.
And instead, you know, where did Caaren Beths do? She
was whipping up the resistance with the rapid response Turla
network contact information.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And so now you know, now what is it? Three
months later it's.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Like, oh uh, I guess you know, do we have
some money lying around that we can use to make
downtown resilient. Finally, the businesses and the residents there are
going and making a big fuss because you're not supposed to.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Live like this.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I told you this yesterday. Okay, you just spend a week.
All of you should go on a mandatory week's vacation
to a peaceful part of the country. Doesn't have to
be you know, a rural farm town. You go to
small medium sized cities Midwest, could be in the South,
could be in the northeast, get away from the big

(11:56):
cities run by the the idiot progressives. You go into
these cities and it's like there's no rapid response network,
there's no protests, there's no crime, there's no homeless people
sleeping around.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, by the way, the gas is two ninety at
a gallon.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's where God, I told you if you didn't hear yesterday,
I opened the show talking about take a week off,
went to Charlotte. One of my sons is living there. Savannah, Georgia, Charleston,
South Carolina, Sarasota, which my wife's family spent many, many
years living And we still go frequently those four cities,

(12:34):
and I mean decent sized cities. I think Charleston Savanah
is about one hundred and fifty thousand each. Charlotte's significantly
larger than that. And you just this stuff doesn't exist.
So this is a choice. This is a choice by
the people that the majority has elected, because this can
be crap. I mean, I mean Trump said in the

(12:57):
National Guard. In Washington, d C. Crime murder rate went
down to zero for two weeks immediately right it was
like shutting the border the legal immigration went down to zero.
You just have to say, Okay, this behavior, this activity
boom done. Not putting up with it anymore. Overwhelming force,
shut it down. Everybody off to jail, lock them up,

(13:19):
and let's start rebuilding downtown. Let's start making all the
neighborhoods nice again. Let's make Los Angeles great again. What
would that be? Laga. That's what we need is a
Laga movement. We need people to say enough of this crap.
They're doing it in all these other cities and we're

(13:40):
sitting around and what's the big debate, you know, ja,
should we protest the Marines coming in, the National.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Guard coming in?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
How about you create a city where you don't need
all this. Trust me, Trump's not going to send in
the Marines of the National Guard into Charlotte or Charleston
or Savannah or Sarah. So that's not going to happen
because everything's in order. I'll tell you this story. So

(14:13):
in Sarasota, in the neighborhood where we have a place,
there was an empty house with a squatter.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
This happened just last week. During the trip. A squatter
got in.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And you know, he phoned up some paperwork but he
got in the house and across the street was a
Sarasota Police detective. So he calls the police department to say,
I see a suspicious guy. He's crawling into the side
window of this house that was empty, you know, was
up for sale. It happened to be the moment my

(14:48):
wife and I rolled up back into the neighborhood that's
right next door to us. Eight patrol cars, eight of
them for to the left, for to the right, one
of those fire rescue units, a canine unit. Yeah, there
were actually nine for a squatter who had broken into

(15:11):
a house. Do you think in your neighborhood if somebody
reported a break in, you get any police activity at all?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh? Not a lot, not a lot.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Although I have to say, John, a few weeks ago,
there was remember that that situation where broke into a
house and took the safe out.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
There were a lot of cop cars there.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
I was pretty impressed, But that is definitely unusual.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I remembered when we had the fire chasing us out. Well,
you know that we had the blackout and we didn't leave,
and there were seven robberies in my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
We had zero police.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Zero police here there's one guy crawled in through a
side window and he wanted to claim ownership, and eight
police cars. Oh, and he wouldn't come out, so they
sent in the dog, and the dog went and gave
him the big chomp and.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Crisis over. And I wish i'd seen that. I'd love
to see him being dragged out by the grind. That
would have that would have been an all time memory.
So that's what you do.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know that, that's what you do.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
And so when they have you know, dozens or hundreds
of people out in the street, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You get the horses, you get the tear gas, you
get a.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Bulldozer, you just go chase everybody out odd lawful assembly.
You declare immediately you got to have a permit. You
didn't get a permit. You're gone, all of you gone.
You don't like it. That's what we got jails for.
And that's what everybody should expect the next time one
of these stupid, stupid, idiotic riots start over some woke
progressive social issue.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Stop stop.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't want to hear about any of these issues anymore,
don't want to debate them, don't want to talk on
Just stop and and and and and Karen Bass's job
in the city council's job is to get the police
there in three minutes and overwhelm all these all these
crazy people and keep out the bad guys from destroying
the businesses, not not let him get destroyed them. Three
months later, it's like, here's the five hundred dollars grant.

(17:07):
Maybe you can buy a new plate glass windows. Come on,
it's just uncivilized, all right, thank you?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, steel better.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yes, this is why I'm so quiet? Otherwise, aren't I quiet?

Speaker 5 (17:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Normally, No, you're at the station. I'm quiet.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, you are.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
You're a quiet guy off there.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's true, right, because and I had no psychiatry bills.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well I should.

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right now, now, Eric going to get to the clip.

(18:03):
I don't know if you remember, well, I'm not sure
what exactly what day this happened. I was August fifteenth, downtown,
LA and this one got a lot of media play
because it was a screaming woman, A young, attractive, screaming
woman named Tatiana Mafla Martinez, twenty three years old. She

(18:26):
was sitting in the front seat of her car, live
streaming because she was an influencer. I don't know who
she was influencing, what she influences with, but there she was,
live streaming from the front of the car. I think
it was some kind of anti ice rant. Now it

(18:46):
suddenly came back to me, they should put this in
the La Times news story and maybe then you'd understand
why what happened happened. But you know, these hack journalists
at the Times, the two guys here, Ruben Vivez and
David Zaneiser, they conveniently omit that she was ranting about ice.

(19:09):
So Tatiana Maffla Martinez live on TikTok telling the world
how upset she is when suddenly this happened.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
No no, no, no, no, no no way, no no
no fathing. Fy Melay, yeah, mellya, hey.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm sure all her influence influencer fans. Her influences were
just aghast and horrified. Uh, but yeah, they tracked her
down and uh they took her away apparently. Uh she
was an immigrant, sheet had a du y on her record,
and she was eligible to be a square out of
the country and said banked I think Columbia. Of course,

(20:04):
her attorney at the time said, well, the reason she
didn't come out these are masked men, and they said
they had a warrant. She just wanted them to display it,
show me the warrant and they never displayed anything. Now,
let me tell you something, this masked men thing, all right,
that's the talking point. Yes, and they're going to be

(20:25):
masked all the time in order to keep the angry
anti ICE activists from tracking them down personally and ruining
the life in their neighborhood that they have with their
families and their children. And that's what these anti ICE
activists will do. When you have a taxpayer paid rapid

(20:48):
response network through CHURLA, what do you think Churla's going
to send out its minions to do. It's going to
be terrorized ICE agents and their families and their kids.
So yeah, they're gonna wear masks.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Too bad. If you don't like it, follow the law,
how about that?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, she's here illegally and Adaviovich's got a duy. It's
like and she's ranting about ICE on a livestream. One two,
three strikes. You are gone, Show me the warrants, Show
me the warrant. You're not in charge, lady. I know
you're an influencer, but you're not in charge.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now. That was the story.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
There was a second story going on that had a
had a major that's not a conclusion, but it's a
major twist. While she was getting arrested by ICE, one
of her friends, Bobby Nunez, aged thirty three. He's a
tow truck operator. He found out what was happening and

(21:48):
he rushed over there with his tow truck and one
of the agents had left his his car unlocked with
the keys inside. Oh and by the way, then in
the glove compartment, this guy, Bobby Nuniaz hooked up the
law enforcement vehicle with its lights flashing, and while Tatiana

(22:13):
Maffla Martinez was getting arrested, and as he pulled away,
he was laughing at the ICE agent who is running
trying to catch up to get his car back.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
And Maffla.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Martinez thought this was funny and was laughing at him.
And I think this also got recorded as well. A
man described as a deportation agent gave chase on foot
Nuniaz was laughing at him and recording him on his
cell phone. These idiots, between this guy and his friend Martinez,

(22:52):
She's this is what the whole culture has just been destroyed, right,
She's screamed. She's here illegally screaming about Ice on TikTok.
He runs and steals an ICE agent's car and then
records the guy chasing him on his phone. Well, geez,
do you think they'd be able to track him down?

(23:12):
Do you think the federal government could track down a
tow truck operator who's pulling an ICE agent's car? Well,
yes they did, and he was finally arrested yesterday on
federal charges stealing government property illegally towing a government vehicle

(23:34):
while the agents were making an immigration arrest his friend Martinez.
The agents had boxed in Martinez his vehicle to prevent
her from escaping, and they did this in a parking
garage at a luxury apartment complex. Is that where Martinez

(23:55):
was living? Was she one of these successful influencers.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
So while Martinez was screaming, as you just heard in
the audio, Nunez started interfering with the arrest and he
was yelling at the agents while they were trying to
get her out of the vehicle. Then another guy joined
the struggle, and Nunyez saw a chance to get behind

(24:24):
the wheel of his tow truck and hook up the
ice agent car and drive away. They found the car
two blocks away. Nuniez, this moron, I mean, this guy
really had a bucket of poof for a brain. He
boasted about his actions on social media, so it wasn't

(24:44):
hard for the federal government to track him down and
then arrest him. You imagine how stupid this man is,
both of them, the influencer and the tow truck driver.
She's here illegally and screams about ice on a live stream.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
He at least he had a decent job towing trucks.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
He steals the ice car and then goes on social
media to tell everybody, Hey, I stole the ice car
and tote it away. Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Look at the guy running after me, ha ha. Who's
at the door.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm just you know, there is stupid and then there's
like unimaginable stupid, and that's where Nuna is in this
Tatiana Martinez full all right, Well, when you come back,
we have news about the overfed, which should maybe a
regular segment on the show.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's coming up.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Coming up after two o'clock. Never's News at two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Carl Dobyo is coming on. The Republican assembly Man Carl
Tobio has one question who drew the maps. He's filed
a formal complaint with the California it's the Fair Political
Practices Committee, and.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
He wants to know.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
What miscreant has drawn the new congressional district lines here
in California, since this is going to be on the
ballot in November, to take away the independent Registricting Commission
and replace it with a bunch of political hacks. They've

(26:36):
already redrawn the lines so they could get rid of
most of the Republican representation in the state of California. Apparently,
if you're a citizen in California, you are not allowed
to have any other party other than the Democrats represent you.
That is the belief of Gavin Newsom and the rest
of the Assembly. A state setate Democrats. They believe it's

(27:01):
like you should only have representation from their ilk. There
is no other party to rerepresented by. So they've redrawn
the district lines. As you've probably heard, we're going to
vote on this in November to replace the Independent Commission
and just let these democratic political hacks. Now which political
hack actually drew the maps? Well, they don't want to say,

(27:22):
and so Carl Demayo's trying to find out.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
We'll have him on coming up.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Okay, news about the overfed, the overfed.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
The overfed.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Oh that sounds a that sounds like I don't know.
That sounds very weird. Do you just mean that you
just mean fat people?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
If i'd said fat people news, Well, now you're.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
So PC, are you?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well? Yeah, I mean you didn't like me, but you
don't like to.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
You just use one.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'm trying to show my sensitive side. I am sensitive.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
No, it's not working.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
They're not believing this. I'm all right.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, it's very rare that you get two news stories
within a few days of each other and they both
quote the same activist from the same weird protest group.
I don't know if you've ever heard of the National
Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
This is a real group.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
No NAFA, naa FA, NAFA, National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.
They've been around for several decades because I remember Ken
and I are arguing with their their their leader years ago,
and they.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Want to erase they want they look at being.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Overfed as a specific identity to be respected and honored
like anybody else's identity, right along with all other agendas
and races and ethicities and everything else. And people just don't.
But what it is is, like all these interest groups,
is they want special treatment. That's what they want. And

(29:07):
within the last few days, Southwest Airlines announced they were
changing their seating policies, and the euphemisms fly. They come
fast and furious. In the La Times. First they refer
to the overfed as the plus size community.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Okay, well that's better than the overfed.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Then later on it's called the customer of size policy.
I think the overfed is better.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
I would just say overweight people policy.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, it's the overweight is already too harsh. Well, here's
the deal here, Southwest. Their old policy was if you
were going to slop over into the seat next to you.
You ever experienced that, have you would get crushed.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Look, I'm not fat shaming here, I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Not, but yes shaming.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
There's another one, all right, Well, norm normally they try
to squeeze in. You got a lot of fat lopping
over the sides, and the airlines were saying, well, you
should buy second ticket, right so.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
You can have both seats, absolutely right, You.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Pull up the armoorrest and you just spill out. You
can spread out your legs.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
You don't have to be mean. We get the point.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Currently, travelers, and I guess this is in the Southwest handbook,
travelers who encroach upon neighboring seats that's actually in quotes here.
I guess it's from there from their manual, are encouraged
to purchase an extra seat to ensure it will be available.
Right Otherwise you you because not all airline seats are

(30:58):
the same correct currently they range between fifteen and a
half to nineteen inches. So if you're stuff to do
a fifteen and a half inch seat and you're nineteen plus,
that's a big problem. And you could get a refund
and you could get a refund if when the flight
lifts off there is an open seat. In other words,

(31:23):
you don't have to pay for the extra seat if
they add an open seat anyway, Okay. Well, now Southwest
wants to keep that money and the NATHA group very
upset about it. They interviewed Jim McLellan. She's an overfed
customer for the last decade, and she said that she's

(31:48):
always bought the extra seat because she didn't want to
be the next viral video of someone upset about sitting next.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
To the fat passenger.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
She used the word fat.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And flyers in the plus sized community knew that on
top of the guaranteed refund, customers could easily reserve an
empty seat and that they would be met with compassion
from customer service agents. Compassion, it's not a disease, just
means you, you know, you can't control yourself eating easily fixable,

(32:25):
and McLelland says the customer of size policy helped ease
what too often feels humiliating. That's why the recent changes
are heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking. Now again they want an automatic refund.
They buy two seats because they need two seats worth
a room, and they used to get the refund if
it turns out there was an extra seat around anyway,

(32:46):
and they will move. Apparently I didn't know this. But
let's say you get next to somebody who's lopping over
on you. They will allow you to move if there's
an open seat somewhere. And according to Flyers' Rights this
is another activist group. Fewer than half of travelers can

(33:08):
reasonably fit in their seats some.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Of those sets. Yeah, they're pretty tiny.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
I mean, look, I'm a small person and I'm uncomfortable
in most airline seats. You aren't, I am, And and
also my legs hurt all the time because my legs
are smushed and I have short legs.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
But that's besides the wait, yes, I am.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Okay, I think that was.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
You sound like my husband?

Speaker 7 (33:37):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So I gotta want to hear Tigris Osborne, executive director
of NAFA, and they they said, for fifteen years they've
had they've gotten more and more rights for these overfed passengers.
There was a film director back in twenty ten who

(34:03):
is removed from a flight of Kevin's film director named
Kevin Smith because the captain thought Smith was a safety
risk to other passengers, which I can see right if
you don't have your seat belt on and you go
flying right.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Well yeah that.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
The other story that NAFA is involved in is apparently
they are upset with ozempic and all the other ozempic
like drugs. They are opposed to these drugs because they
say fatness is their identity and there shouldn't be a
drug promoted to wipe out their identity.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Okay, so if people that are fat want to be fat,
that they don't have to take ozembic.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
They I don't understand what the problem is.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Nowhere in these stories is the suggestion that people should
just eat less.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Would you know what, if you want to be fat,
then that's that's okay, But you can't. You can't go
on a plane and slop over and and and bother
other people.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
That's that's fine. You do you, but it can't that.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Look, he's using the phrase slop over.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Well that's yours. So it came to mind.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
I didn't want to sit and try and think of
another word. But yeah, that was kind of rude of me, admittedly,
But it's your fault because you put it in my head.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I'm glad when I drag you down to my level.
Oh you have so fat activists with that are opposed
to weight loss.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Tigris Osborne, the executive director, says, Oh, Zeppik is making
it one hundred percent worse for us. It's created a
lot of public narrative that if you could just solve
all your problems by taking this magical drug, and if
you don't take it, well, then you deserve what you get.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Well, we all know that if you're obese, that's forget
the way it looks. It's not healthy.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
No, no, So.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
The one time I had to go to a nursing
home frequently, you know, with my in laws, I looked
around one day in the cafeteria. I was there with
my father in law having lunch with him. Although I
wouldn't need anything there, Oh my god. That convinced me
I'm never going to one of those places. That food

(36:32):
is just awful. And maybe that's why everybody's so thin,
Because there were about two things I noticed. There were
about thirty people in the room, right, thirty out of
thirty were really thin, probably because they couldn't stomach the
terrible food. Yeah, I'm sure, but also it's because when
you're overweight, you're not going to live that long.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
You're not going to make it to the nursing home.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Secondly, twenty five out of the thirty were women, which
you know, men die off much sooner than women for
obvious reasons. All Right, more coming up Debora Mark live
in the CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been
listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always
hear the show live on KFI AM six forty from

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