November 18, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (11/18) - Joe Khalil from NewsNation comes on the show to talk about the House of Representatives passing a bill to tell the DOJ to release all of the Epstein files. The LA Times gave the head of LADWP Janisse Quiñones an award for leadership! Daniel Guss comes on the show to talk about if the LA Times is losing what little credibility it has left. New information has been revealed about a State Park rep being in Pacific Palisades at the Lachman Fire Burn Scar.
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I don't want to waste any time going through all
the spectacular stuff today that we have on This is
like Christmas morning, but we have to first get to
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some breaking news that is occurring now in Washington, d C.
We're going to talk to the Washington correspondent at News Nation,
Joe Khalil, because the House a short time ago approved
a bill telling the Justice Department to finally release all
the Jeffrey Epstein files. It was nearly unanimous, the vote
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four hundred and twenty seven to one. Then it's going
to go to the Senate. Trump a few days ago
stunned everybody by saying he'll sign it, and what's in it?
After all this time? Well, let's talk to Joe Khalil,
see what's going on. How are you, Joe? Hey, good,
how are you doing I'm fine. This was a big
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u turn in a very short time, and I guess
maybe by the end of the day it will pass.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean, it really was. We went from just
a couple days ago thinking it was going to pass
the House, but you'd have more than one hundred Republicans
possibly voting against it, and then it was probably go
to go nowhere in the Senate, like it was unlikely
the Senate was going to take this up at all.
That was the reality a couple days ago. Now ever,
since President Trump shifted his position on this, and it
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was a shift despite what you might hear from the administration.
It was on Thursday he was trying to kill the villain.
We have direct reporting he was calling members of Congress
asking them to take their name off the petition that
allowed for this vote to happen. Sunday night, he shifted
and said, okay, Republicans vote for it, then vote for it,
because I have nothing to hide. Let's get this over with.
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And effectively they took that as a green light, and
they did four hundred and twenty seven to one. With
the vote that overwhelming, it almost makes it impossible for
the Senate to ignore it and not take it up,
So the reality is totally different. We're hearing that the
Senate might take it up as early as tonight. It
seems more likely that maybe tomorrow or later in the week.
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But it seems Leader Foon in the Senate is going
to take it up and it is going to President
Trump's desk where he says he is going to sign it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And these are more files because they just had a
huge file dump a few days ago that they one
of the committees released and the Democrats were releasing let's
set you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, the Oversight Committee has been doing this investigation and
they've been releasing sort of tranch by tronch by tronch.
So there are I'm not exactly sure how many files,
how many documents the way that the Congressman Thomas Massey,
the Republican from Kentucky put it to me, we interviewed him.
He's one of the three, one of the two members
that are really behind this effort.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He basically said.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You know what we've not seen is any name other
than Jeffrey Epstein, any offender, any person who may have
committed one of these alleged sex crimes or trafficked women.
And he says, that is really what we want to see.
And those names, he says, are in these documents, those
have not been released. So if you get a full
release of all the documents, presumably you're going to get
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some people either in the FBI or witnesses or people
that have seen things and given private testimony that will
come out. So this, you know, we'll see if the
DOJ follows up or if there's any sort of snag
in the process.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, to the extent that people have any interest in this,
they want to hear the big names and then want
to know what they were doing with Epstein and the girls.
Presumably this release from the Department of Justice will have
all that juicy information.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I mean, if they release everything, then you would imagine, yes,
that they would. That's why several of these these Epstein
victims or survivors they call themselves survivors, were advocating, you know,
for months actually for this bill because that's what they
want to see. They want, they want the Justice Department
to release those names and to prosecute those for whom
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there is evidence that they've committed wrongdoing, if they've committed
something that's illegal. So presumably that information that the public's
been sort of yearning for for some time now. The
DT would have and would be able to release if
it exists.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now the Justice Department is really going to release it,
or is it going to get stalled somehow bureaucratically or
a lot of it's going to be redacted and blacked out.
Because I've been down there's roads so many times with
these alleged Epstein bombshells, and most of the time turns
out to be a dud. I don't think we know
anything more than we knew ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think that's exactly right. I think you've hit the
nail on the head. That's why I think people have
been so frustrated, and you really started to see I mean,
I struggled to think of when you think of the
MAGA base and any moment in the last you know,
ten twelve years they have broken from President Trump. I
don't really remember any significant ones other than when the
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Attorney General Pam Bondi said, you know, the Epstein files
are coming coming tomorrow, and that was a few months ago,
and then it was sort of a dudg. She released
information that had already been made public. So I think
even the very loyal base. They've been frustrated. I think
they are skeptical that the DOJ is going to release
all of the information that they have. I think a
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lot of people are skeptical about that. So really, time
is going to tell. But what I will say is
that what's interesting about this build it's not like some
bills up a resolution or like a statement. This is
the force of law now. So when President signs this bill,
what that means is if the Department of Justice has files,
has information and refuses to release them by this bill,
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that will be law. They are violating the US law.
So that certainly changes the game a little bit. But
I wouldn't question anybody who's skeptical about whether we're going
to get information or not.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Joe, I know you got to go. Thank you for
coming on with us.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Joe Khalil Washington, correspondent for NewsNation House has passed a
bill for twenty seven to one to release the all
the Epstein documents that the Department of Justice has when
we come back. This is the big story locally today.
I thought it was a hoax when Eric first sent
it to us this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The Los Angeles Times has given a prestigious award Inspirational
Women to Janie Kinz, the woman who never filled the
reservoir in the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Unbelievable. We'll talk about it. We come back.
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John Cobelt Show and moistline is eight seven seven Moist
eighty six, eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually
talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. And we'll play him
back twice on Friday. I'm looking I woke up this
morning and I couldn't believe well Eric sent it. I'm
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just looking at the text eight twenty two this morning,
series of texts, and I'm thinking, this is a hoax.
This is some internet meme. This is something that's spinning
around on Twitter. It's a parody, right, It's a sattire
and it's not Genie Kinonyez. She is the head of
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the LA's Department of Water and Power, the DWP. She
was hired for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year that was double the salary of the previous head
of the DWP. Infamously, she drained the Palisades Reservoir, all
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one hundred and seventeen million gallons of it, because there
was a torn cover, think of like a torn pool cover.
You probably know this story, and so they had to
fix the cover. Well they didn't for a year. They
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drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons and.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Left it empty. This is her decision, left it empty.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
This was the primary source of water for the fire
department if you have a fire. Eleven months went by.
They drained it in February of twenty twenty four. Here
it comes the dry season, nine months no rain. Now
we're into the sant Ana win season. Fire starts whole
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separate scandal, geniese conunions, and those eleven months never filled
up the reservoir. Never criminal negligence. Twelve people died, almost
seven thousand homes destroyed. Now, in any other world that
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I've ever existed in, and I don't know how many
other worlds I've lived in, but somebody who makes such
a catastrophic, stupid decision would be fired, should be indicted
and charged seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
She gets.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
She drains a reservoir, a huge one, A gigantic one.
If it's empty, it's impossible, impossible to put out a wildfire. Instead,
what Eric said this morning was a link to an
LA Times dot com page the fifth annual Inspirational Women's
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Form and Leadership Awards celebrating women redefining leadership across Los Angeles.
This exclusive event brought together LA's top executives, entrepreneurs and
change makers and they handed out these awards and they
gave on to Genie kenon Yez. They the Los Angeles
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Times gave an award to Jennie's Keys for her accomplishments
as a woman. No, really, it happened. Kenez got an
award from the LA Times. They reported how incompetent she
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was at draining the reservoir and not filling it back up.
They broke that story. They identified her and it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That was this year, and now they decide she gets
an award. Here's her bio page at the LA Times.
I hope you haven't had lunch. Janise Kenonias is a
distinguished executive with over twenty five years of leadership experience,
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currently serving as the Chief executive officer and Chief Engineer
of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, the
nation's largest publicly owned water and power utility. Since her
appointment in May of twenty twenty four, she's led a
workforce of nearly twelve thousand employees in delivering get this safe,
reliable water and power to four million.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Residents and overcharging us.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Overcharging us, Well, somebody's got to pay the seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. So she takes over in May.
They had decided they were closing the reservoir in February.
By the way, the work to fix the cover took
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a month and it wasn't that much money.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But May.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
June, July, August, September, October, November, December into January, reservoirs dry,
ken unions never refilled. It, never fixed, the cover, never
refilled the reservoir. Fire happens, thousands of buildings destroyed, and
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twelve people die, literally die in a fire. On top
of that, she never had the power turned off for
parts of Palisades, and then those wires crashed to the
ground and started new fires. And she gets an Inspirational
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Women's Leadership Award. Is everybody insane or something happened to me?
I'm thinking, I'm not even on the air right now,
that I went crazy and they put me in a
booth to simulate a radio studio, and I don't even
know I'm not on the air, but I'm actually in
an insane asylum right now, and they run video of
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view just to entertain me on this TV screen.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, this is real.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
I couldn't believe it either when it Eric scented this morning,
did you see?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I thought it was I. I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't understand. And you know the thing about this, Eric, nobody,
nobody explains like there's nobody at.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The LA Times. How can you look?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I want to I thought their fire coverage was really good.
I've said that many times and I still do. But
how do you do that kind of coverage? Pinpointing her
major role in why the fire wasn't put out at
all until everything that could burn burn. They had no
they had no water. Fire hydrants were all dry. They
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had three one million gallon tanks sitting in the in
the hills there, and those ran dry. I think by
early the first evening of the fire, and then the
one hundred and seventeen million gallon hole in the ground,
and I've driven there and I've seen it, and it
was a massive hole. In fact, there was a second reservoir,
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much smaller, called the Chautauqua Reservoir that was empty too, And.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
In the early days of the fire, Rick Caruso came
on and he said, almost in passing, the reservoirs were empty,
and that like I noticed he said that, but there
were so many other things we were talking about, so
he knew. He knew right away that the reservoirs are empty,
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like a lot of people in government must have known
a lot of business people.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This astonishes me.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I guess, of all the pieces of this puzzle, this
one astonishes me, you know, as much as anything. How
could you? How could you? It's the fire season, said
in a wins I nine months of dry weather. How
could she do this? She's never apologized, she never talks
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about it. We have one of our listeners who actually
goes to the meetings. I've seen I've seen video of
some of the things. She never discusses it. And this
is where I start to question my sanity. And maybe
that's the point. The point is is there. They do
not address reality at all. They pretend that our reality
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never happened, and so we go on talking about it,
living with it, reacting to it. After a while, it's like,
I guess I'm crazy. Maybe none of this really happened.
Maybe when I drive to the Pali sides, maybe all
the buildings still are there and all the people are
still walking around and shopping.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You see how you question your sanity after a while.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
I would love to have been in that meeting where
they made that decision to give her the award?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yes, what did they say?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Who nominated her? Who said, you know, how about Genie Knez?
And they go, oh, it's a great eye, and why.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Would you do this?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You imagine everybody in the Palisades right now, maybe right
now they're hearing this for the first time, their heads
are exploding. Daniel Guss is coming on next. He's the
independent journalist here in Los Angeles, and he's got a
lot to say about the LA Times giving Denise Keez
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an Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Award.
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Speaker 1 (17:48):
And we are now going.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
To continue with this new shocking insanity. The La Times
gave an award to Denice z the woman who runs
the DWP makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
she didn't fill up the reservoir and so there was
no water in the one hundred and seventeen million gallon
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reservoir Pacific Palisades when the fire hit. And instead of
her being charged criminally with negligence or some kind of incompetence,
instead of her being.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Fired, she got an award at the.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Awards.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Denise CONONYAZ Daniel Guss.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
He has a substack page Danielgus dot substack dot com.
Independent local journalist, one of the few we have that
covers all the craziness. All right, let's get Daniel on.
Daniel knows a lot about what goes on inside the
La Times. Although as jaded as you are about them,
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you must got knocked back by this one.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Oh my god, on it ends, it never ends, and
it's even worse than you realize. So Yeah, So the
Los Angeles Times decided to post a story, by the way,
such an important story that was written by an intern
who plays volleyball at San Diego City College. Nothing against her,
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but it was so important they put the story in
the hands of an intern. And what they don't show
on the page about this award show is that it
appears to have been a sponsored event. And it looks
like the LA Times basically nominated every woman in the
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executive suite of Los Angeles, because there must have been
one hundred men nominated for these awards. And I have
a feeling, John, that the employers of every one of
these nominees was probably hit up for a a sponsorship donation.
Oh and what they didn't tell you, John, is that
tickets to the event cost four hundred and sixty eight dollars.
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A ticket is about five grand.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Table you tell me people paid over four hundred dollars
to sit in an award show where Genie Cononiez, who
helped burn down the Palisades, got one of the awards.
I mean, this woman, this woman helped burn down an
entire section of Los Angeles and then the Times gives
her an award and people pay a lot of money
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to watch or get the award.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, you get a rubber chicken for it, apparently, you know,
and the good lord four hundred and sixty seven dollars
a ticket a little less if you wanted to go
to the early seminar. And they're sitting there and it's
and her bio mentions nothing about the fact that she
tore down thousands of homes through what appears to the
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average person to be gross negligence. Yeah, it's like, what
is going on with the Times. It's as if it's
as if they don't realize that the California Post is
entering the frame right on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But they broke the story about the reservoir being empty.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Their news department said, yeah, she ran the DWP when
the reservoir was empty and never filled. It was her responsibility.
Her primary responsibility was to get that reservoir filled before
fire season hit.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And what the La Times is, right, John, what the
La Times is doing here and they got into a
lot of troubleness in the past is where they blur
the lines between opinion and news and what's called their
Business to Business section, which this appears to be a
revenue generating event. But of all of the women Los
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Angels other than Genie Bus, she's Denise's.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm sure there's hundreds of women you could honor in
Los Angeles for their business accomplishments. Why her Nobody at
the meeting said, way, wait, hold on, she she'ldn't filt
the damn reservoir. The waist burned down. That's not a
good idea. And can you imagine, you imagine what it
feels like for people in the Palisades to wake up.
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They go to a website and they see that woman,
Denise Cononias, that woman is getting award from the La Times.
You talk about a gut punch, a kick in the head,
people who lost their their family members in that fire
to see that this lady is getting.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Is getting rewarded.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, and she's as you said, she's getting virtually double
what her predecessor got. And if you remember, Karen Bess said, well,
we need to pay her seven hundred and fifty grand
to draw the best karent and so so her talent
is what is what Caravas cited as the need for
her for her to get that salary. But it's David
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worse than that. John. The Quinonius thing is certainly the
most glaring thing of this. One of the moderators, one
of the moderators for one of these panels, is the
assistant managing editor of The Times, Angel Jennings. You want
to talk about how this is just a cauldron of
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stupidity and insanity, then one of the moderators, Assistant editor
Angel Jennings, five years ago suite Times for bias and
and got part of a three million dollars settlement. So
they don't mention Angel Jennings being part of a three
million dollar bias lawsuit against The Times. They don't mention
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the Jennie Qunonians. They talk about her helping the recovery
after the fire, but they don't. Yeah, they talked in her,
are you They say, well, she helps it part of
the recovery. Yeah, but she's the one who virtually made
it a thousand times worse than it needed to be.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It made it impossible to put out the fire. There
was literally no water available at all. There was a
second reservoir empty that she had jurisdiction over.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
The hydrants were busted and empty. Everybody was standing around.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Watching the Palisades burn because nobody brought the water to
put out the fire.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Right right, And the only person who I think could
have been a worse nominee would have been Karen Beth.
I mean, based on what base that they don't tell
you what the inspiration she does. Well, sure it's inspirational
that she she's making, you know, teven hundred and fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
A child corn could could point at a hole and said,
what should go in there, mommy?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Water?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well, why don't they fill it with water?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, all right, Well, and then it gets into
the whole thing about the gets into the whole thing
about the water versus the fire. Hydrants. Oh, Jill don't
have answers, and we won't have answers on it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
We're going to get the answers. Nobody's going to give
up until we get the answers. This was too deadly
and too destructive. Daniel Gush, thank you for coming on.
When we come back, John, when we come back. Roger Bailey,
he's an attorney representing thousands of Pacific Palisades residents who
homes were destroyed in the fire. It looks like that
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the state was lying to a court when they claim
that the state never knew that the fire on January
first had happened. You know the whole controversy over the
LA Fire Department not putting out that fire and then
it restarted on January seventh. Well, it started on state
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land and the state was trying to claim, well, we
didn't know about the January first flier fire. That was
a lie, and somebody for the state lied in court.
We'll tell you all about it we come back.
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Speaker 2 (26:25):
After Debra's news at two o'clock, we're gonna have Roger
Bailey on an attorney for thousand specific Palisades residents, more
than three thousand of them, and they've got to court.
This fire started on state land, and the allegations say
that the mismanagement by the state caused the wildfire. Remember
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it started on January first on California state land, and
the state lied in court about their role. We're going
to play you a story about New Nation anchor Elizabeth
Vargas and the reporter Rich McHugh on new documents that
revealed a California State rep was in the Palisades a
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week before the big fire, right after the January first
fire play it.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
We have new exclusive details on the investigation into the
handling of the deadly Palisades Fire in California. News Nation
investigative correspondent Rich McHugh obtained documents that may show that
the state is in fact solely responsible for that fire
and possibly for the deaths of the twelve people who died.
Last week, our exclusive reporting found that a state representative
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was present near the burn scar, which had all the
embers deep underground of a fire that had not been
completely turned out. Well, it eventually turned into the Palisades Fire,
and apparently, according to our reporting, a state representative was
on the scene ordering firefighters around, telling them where they
could and could not go. Well, tonight, we not only
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of confirmation that a state representative was there, but we
now know exactly when they arrived and why. News Nation's
Rich M. Hugh joins us now with this exclusive. Rich,
tell us what more you've managed to uncover.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Well, it's really shocking and ultimately comes down to two
really big questions. Number One, did state mismanagement ultimately cause
the Palisades Fire?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
And did they lie about it in court?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
I'll lie about all of it in court, and these
new documents that we've obtained suggests that that's absolutely what happened. Now,
this all began in the early morning hours of January one,
when an alleged arsenist started the Lackman Fire, and we
know underground embers reignited six days later, starting a second,
more devastating fire that was the Palisades Fire. In response
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to a lawsuit from over three thousand Palisades residents alleging
the state failed to monitor embers from that initial fire,
Governor Newsom's office told news Nation.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
The state didn't start this fire.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
That was an arsonist and the state wasn't responsible for
responding to or monitoring this fire.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Now, new court filing as.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
The State goes further and says the Palisades victims cannot
allege the state that the state had noticed of the lock.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And fire because it never had notice.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
State records show a call at twelve twenty seven am
on January one, but with the rest of the incident
report redacted completely blacked out, basically including their response to
that call. But a Los Angeles Fire Department record tells.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Us all the details and the lafd's record show not
only did the LAFD notify the state just after midnight,
the state sent a park representative at one forty six
in the morning on January one, and that state park
representative arrived on scene at four am on January one.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Now that Los Angeles Fire Department incident report shows what
the state will not That the Los Angeles Fire Department
contacted the state after midnight on January one and a
State park rep arrived onseen by four am.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
If the state had no responsibility for this land, why
are they sending a state park rep. The state is
playing hide the ball. They're not being transparent with the public.
Tell us that you sent a state park rep. Tell
us what that state park rep did. Tell us on
the next stage, January two, that you sent another state
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park rep who directed firefighters and said they couldn't bulldoze all.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
These specific questions, Elizabeth, We have asked the Governor Newsom's
office and the California State Parks and they've declined to
answer all of them.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And we have a photo we've put on all our
social media pages. You can go to Twitter, x, you
can go to TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, look at the photo
and you'll see LA Fire Department personnel talking to a
state representative that was said down the day of the
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original fire on January first, and they were there on
January second, apparently was telling firefighters that they couldn't bulldoze.
So somebody was lying in court. Somebody representing Gavin Newsom
in the state of California lied in court to a
judge and claimed that these plaintiffs in the Palisades don't
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have a case because the state never knew about the fire.
It started on state land. They had a rep there.
Roger Bailey, who you heard in that report with Dowstation,
coming on with his next Deborah Mark Live in the
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I don't want to waste any time going through all
the spectacular stuff today that we have on This is
like Christmas morning, but we have to first get to
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some breaking news that is occurring now in Washington, d C.
We're going to talk to the Washington correspondent at News Nation,
Joe Khalil, because the House a short time ago approved
a bill telling the Justice Department to finally release all
the Jeffrey Epstein files. It was nearly unanimous, the vote
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four hundred and twenty seven to one. Then it's going
to go to the Senate. Trump a few days ago
stunned everybody by saying he'll sign it, and what's in it?
After all this time? Well, let's talk to Joe Khalil,
see what's going on. How are you, Joe? Hey, good,
how are you doing I'm fine. This was a big
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u turn in a very short time, and I guess
maybe by the end of the day it will pass.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I mean, it really was. We went from just
a couple days ago thinking it was going to pass
the House, but you'd have more than one hundred Republicans
possibly voting against it, and then it was probably go
to go nowhere in the Senate, like it was unlikely
the Senate was going to take this up at all.
That was the reality a couple days ago. Now ever,
since President Trump shifted his position on this, and it
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was a shift despite what you might hear from the administration.
It was on Thursday he was trying to kill the villain.
We have direct reporting he was calling members of Congress
asking them to take their name off the petition that
allowed for this vote to happen. Sunday night, he shifted
and said, okay, Republicans vote for it, then vote for it,
because I have nothing to hide. Let's get this over with.
(02:07):
And effectively they took that as a green light, and
they did four hundred and twenty seven to one. With
the vote that overwhelming, it almost makes it impossible for
the Senate to ignore it and not take it up,
So the reality is totally different. We're hearing that the
Senate might take it up as early as tonight. It
seems more likely that maybe tomorrow or later in the week.
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But it seems Leader Foon in the Senate is going
to take it up and it is going to President
Trump's desk where he says he is going to sign it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
And these are more files because they just had a
huge file dump a few days ago that they one
of the committees released and the Democrats were releasing let's
set you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, the Oversight Committee has been doing this investigation and
they've been releasing sort of tranch by tronch by tronch.
So there are I'm not exactly sure how many files,
how many documents the way that the Congressman Thomas Massey,
the Republican from Kentucky put it to me, we interviewed him.
He's one of the three, one of the two members
that are really behind this effort.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
He basically said.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You know what we've not seen is any name other
than Jeffrey Epstein, any offender, any person who may have
committed one of these alleged sex crimes or trafficked women.
And he says, that is really what we want to see.
And those names, he says, are in these documents, those
have not been released. So if you get a full
release of all the documents, presumably you're going to get
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some people either in the FBI or witnesses or people
that have seen things and given private testimony that will
come out. So this, you know, we'll see if the
DOJ follows up or if there's any sort of snag
in the process.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, to the extent that people have any interest in this,
they want to hear the big names and then want
to know what they were doing with Epstein and the girls.
Presumably this release from the Department of Justice will have
all that juicy information.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I mean, if they release everything, then you would imagine, yes,
that they would. That's why several of these these Epstein
victims or survivors they call themselves survivors, were advocating, you know,
for months actually for this bill because that's what they
want to see. They want, they want the Justice Department
to release those names and to prosecute those for whom
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there is evidence that they've committed wrongdoing, if they've committed
something that's illegal. So presumably that information that the public's
been sort of yearning for for some time now. The
DT would have and would be able to release if
it exists.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Now the Justice Department is really going to release it,
or is it going to get stalled somehow bureaucratically or
a lot of it's going to be redacted and blacked out.
Because I've been down there's roads so many times with
these alleged Epstein bombshells, and most of the time turns
out to be a dud. I don't think we know
anything more than we knew ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think that's exactly right. I think you've hit the
nail on the head. That's why I think people have
been so frustrated, and you really started to see I mean,
I struggled to think of when you think of the
MAGA base and any moment in the last you know,
ten twelve years they have broken from President Trump. I
don't really remember any significant ones other than when the
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Attorney General Pam Bondi said, you know, the Epstein files
are coming coming tomorrow, and that was a few months ago,
and then it was sort of a dudg. She released
information that had already been made public. So I think
even the very loyal base. They've been frustrated. I think
they are skeptical that the DOJ is going to release
all of the information that they have. I think a
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lot of people are skeptical about that. So really, time
is going to tell. But what I will say is
that what's interesting about this build it's not like some
bills up a resolution or like a statement. This is
the force of law now. So when President signs this bill,
what that means is if the Department of Justice has files,
has information and refuses to release them by this bill,
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that will be law. They are violating the US law.
So that certainly changes the game a little bit. But
I wouldn't question anybody who's skeptical about whether we're going
to get information or not.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Joe, I know you got to go. Thank you for
coming on with us.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Joe Khalil Washington, correspondent for NewsNation House has passed a
bill for twenty seven to one to release the all
the Epstein documents that the Department of Justice has when
we come back. This is the big story locally today.
I thought it was a hoax when Eric first sent
it to us this morning.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
The Los Angeles Times has given a prestigious award Inspirational
Women to Janie Kinz, the woman who never filled the
reservoir in the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Unbelievable. We'll talk about it. We come back.
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John Cobelt Show and moistline is eight seven seven Moist
eighty six, eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually
talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. And we'll play him
back twice on Friday. I'm looking I woke up this
morning and I couldn't believe well Eric sent it. I'm
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just looking at the text eight twenty two this morning,
series of texts, and I'm thinking, this is a hoax.
This is some internet meme. This is something that's spinning
around on Twitter. It's a parody, right, It's a sattire
and it's not Genie Kinonyez. She is the head of
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the LA's Department of Water and Power, the DWP. She
was hired for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
year that was double the salary of the previous head
of the DWP. Infamously, she drained the Palisades Reservoir, all
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one hundred and seventeen million gallons of it, because there
was a torn cover, think of like a torn pool cover.
You probably know this story, and so they had to
fix the cover. Well they didn't for a year. They
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drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons and.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Left it empty. This is her decision, left it empty.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
This was the primary source of water for the fire
department if you have a fire. Eleven months went by.
They drained it in February of twenty twenty four. Here
it comes the dry season, nine months no rain. Now
we're into the sant Ana win season. Fire starts whole
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separate scandal, geniese conunions, and those eleven months never filled
up the reservoir. Never criminal negligence. Twelve people died, almost
seven thousand homes destroyed. Now, in any other world that
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I've ever existed in, and I don't know how many
other worlds I've lived in, but somebody who makes such
a catastrophic, stupid decision would be fired, should be indicted
and charged seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
She gets.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
She drains a reservoir, a huge one, A gigantic one.
If it's empty, it's impossible, impossible to put out a wildfire. Instead,
what Eric said this morning was a link to an
LA Times dot com page the fifth annual Inspirational Women's
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Form and Leadership Awards celebrating women redefining leadership across Los Angeles.
This exclusive event brought together LA's top executives, entrepreneurs and
change makers and they handed out these awards and they
gave on to Genie kenon Yez. They the Los Angeles
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Times gave an award to Jennie's Keys for her accomplishments
as a woman. No, really, it happened. Kenez got an
award from the LA Times. They reported how incompetent she
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was at draining the reservoir and not filling it back up.
They broke that story. They identified her and it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That was this year, and now they decide she gets
an award. Here's her bio page at the LA Times.
I hope you haven't had lunch. Janise Kenonias is a
distinguished executive with over twenty five years of leadership experience,
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currently serving as the Chief executive officer and Chief Engineer
of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, the
nation's largest publicly owned water and power utility. Since her
appointment in May of twenty twenty four, she's led a
workforce of nearly twelve thousand employees in delivering get this safe,
reliable water and power to four million.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Residents and overcharging us.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Overcharging us, Well, somebody's got to pay the seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. So she takes over in May.
They had decided they were closing the reservoir in February.
By the way, the work to fix the cover took
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a month and it wasn't that much money.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But May.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
June, July, August, September, October, November, December into January, reservoirs dry,
ken unions never refilled. It, never fixed, the cover, never
refilled the reservoir. Fire happens, thousands of buildings destroyed, and
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twelve people die, literally die in a fire. On top
of that, she never had the power turned off for
parts of Palisades, and then those wires crashed to the
ground and started new fires. And she gets an Inspirational
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Women's Leadership Award. Is everybody insane or something happened to me?
I'm thinking, I'm not even on the air right now,
that I went crazy and they put me in a
booth to simulate a radio studio, and I don't even
know I'm not on the air, but I'm actually in
an insane asylum right now, and they run video of
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view just to entertain me on this TV screen.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, this is real.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
I couldn't believe it either when it Eric scented this morning,
did you see?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I thought it was I. I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't understand. And you know the thing about this, Eric, nobody,
nobody explains like there's nobody at.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The LA Times. How can you look?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I want to I thought their fire coverage was really good.
I've said that many times and I still do. But
how do you do that kind of coverage? Pinpointing her
major role in why the fire wasn't put out at
all until everything that could burn burn. They had no
they had no water. Fire hydrants were all dry. They
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had three one million gallon tanks sitting in the in
the hills there, and those ran dry. I think by
early the first evening of the fire, and then the
one hundred and seventeen million gallon hole in the ground,
and I've driven there and I've seen it, and it
was a massive hole. In fact, there was a second reservoir,
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much smaller, called the Chautauqua Reservoir that was empty too, And.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I'll never forget.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
In the early days of the fire, Rick Caruso came
on and he said, almost in passing, the reservoirs were empty,
and that like I noticed he said that, but there
were so many other things we were talking about, so
he knew. He knew right away that the reservoirs are empty,
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like a lot of people in government must have known
a lot of business people.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
This astonishes me.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I guess, of all the pieces of this puzzle, this
one astonishes me, you know, as much as anything. How
could you? How could you? It's the fire season, said
in a wins I nine months of dry weather. How
could she do this? She's never apologized, she never talks
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about it. We have one of our listeners who actually
goes to the meetings. I've seen I've seen video of
some of the things. She never discusses it. And this
is where I start to question my sanity. And maybe
that's the point. The point is is there. They do
not address reality at all. They pretend that our reality
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never happened, and so we go on talking about it,
living with it, reacting to it. After a while, it's like,
I guess I'm crazy. Maybe none of this really happened.
Maybe when I drive to the Pali sides, maybe all
the buildings still are there and all the people are
still walking around and shopping.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You see how you question your sanity after a while.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
I would love to have been in that meeting where
they made that decision to give her the award?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yes, what did they say?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Who nominated her? Who said, you know, how about Genie Knez?
And they go, oh, it's a great eye, and why.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Would you do this?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You imagine everybody in the Palisades right now, maybe right
now they're hearing this for the first time, their heads
are exploding. Daniel Guss is coming on next. He's the
independent journalist here in Los Angeles, and he's got a
lot to say about the LA Times giving Denise Keez
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an Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Award.
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Speaker 1 (17:48):
And we are now going.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
To continue with this new shocking insanity. The La Times
gave an award to Denice z the woman who runs
the DWP makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
she didn't fill up the reservoir and so there was
no water in the one hundred and seventeen million gallon
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reservoir Pacific Palisades when the fire hit. And instead of
her being charged criminally with negligence or some kind of incompetence,
instead of her being.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Fired, she got an award at the.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Inspirational Women Forum and Leadership Awards.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Denise CONONYAZ Daniel Guss.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
He has a substack page Danielgus dot substack dot com.
Independent local journalist, one of the few we have that
covers all the craziness. All right, let's get Daniel on.
Daniel knows a lot about what goes on inside the
La Times. Although as jaded as you are about them,
(18:59):
you must got knocked back by this one.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Oh my god, on it ends, it never ends, and
it's even worse than you realize. So Yeah, So the
Los Angeles Times decided to post a story, by the way,
such an important story that was written by an intern
who plays volleyball at San Diego City College. Nothing against her,
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but it was so important they put the story in
the hands of an intern. And what they don't show
on the page about this award show is that it
appears to have been a sponsored event. And it looks
like the LA Times basically nominated every woman in the
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executive suite of Los Angeles, because there must have been
one hundred men nominated for these awards. And I have
a feeling, John, that the employers of every one of
these nominees was probably hit up for a a sponsorship donation.
Oh and what they didn't tell you, John, is that
tickets to the event cost four hundred and sixty eight dollars.
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A ticket is about five grand.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Table you tell me people paid over four hundred dollars
to sit in an award show where Genie Cononiez, who
helped burn down the Palisades, got one of the awards.
I mean, this woman, this woman helped burn down an
entire section of Los Angeles and then the Times gives
her an award and people pay a lot of money
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to watch or get the award.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, you get a rubber chicken for it, apparently, you know,
and the good lord four hundred and sixty seven dollars
a ticket a little less if you wanted to go
to the early seminar. And they're sitting there and it's
and her bio mentions nothing about the fact that she
tore down thousands of homes through what appears to the
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average person to be gross negligence. Yeah, it's like, what
is going on with the Times. It's as if it's
as if they don't realize that the California Post is
entering the frame right on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But they broke the story about the reservoir being empty.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Their news department said, yeah, she ran the DWP when
the reservoir was empty and never filled. It was her responsibility.
Her primary responsibility was to get that reservoir filled before
fire season hit.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
And what the La Times is, right, John, what the
La Times is doing here and they got into a
lot of troubleness in the past is where they blur
the lines between opinion and news and what's called their
Business to Business section, which this appears to be a
revenue generating event. But of all of the women Los
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Angels other than Genie Bus, she's Denise's.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm sure there's hundreds of women you could honor in
Los Angeles for their business accomplishments. Why her Nobody at
the meeting said, way, wait, hold on, she she'ldn't filt
the damn reservoir. The waist burned down. That's not a
good idea. And can you imagine, you imagine what it
feels like for people in the Palisades to wake up.
(22:26):
They go to a website and they see that woman,
Denise Cononias, that woman is getting award from the La Times.
You talk about a gut punch, a kick in the head,
people who lost their their family members in that fire
to see that this lady is getting.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Is getting rewarded.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, and she's as you said, she's getting virtually double
what her predecessor got. And if you remember, Karen Bess said, well,
we need to pay her seven hundred and fifty grand
to draw the best karent and so so her talent
is what is what Caravas cited as the need for
her for her to get that salary. But it's David
(23:09):
worse than that. John. The Quinonius thing is certainly the
most glaring thing of this. One of the moderators, one
of the moderators for one of these panels, is the
assistant managing editor of The Times, Angel Jennings. You want
to talk about how this is just a cauldron of
(23:29):
stupidity and insanity, then one of the moderators, Assistant editor
Angel Jennings, five years ago suite Times for bias and
and got part of a three million dollars settlement. So
they don't mention Angel Jennings being part of a three
million dollar bias lawsuit against The Times. They don't mention
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the Jennie Qunonians. They talk about her helping the recovery
after the fire, but they don't. Yeah, they talked in her,
are you They say, well, she helps it part of
the recovery. Yeah, but she's the one who virtually made
it a thousand times worse than it needed to be.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It made it impossible to put out the fire. There
was literally no water available at all. There was a
second reservoir empty that she had jurisdiction over.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
The hydrants were busted and empty. Everybody was standing around.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Watching the Palisades burn because nobody brought the water to
put out the fire.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Right right, And the only person who I think could
have been a worse nominee would have been Karen Beth.
I mean, based on what base that they don't tell
you what the inspiration she does. Well, sure it's inspirational
that she she's making, you know, teven hundred and fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
A child corn could could point at a hole and said,
what should go in there, mommy?
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Water?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well, why don't they fill it with water?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, all right, Well, and then it gets into
the whole thing about the gets into the whole thing
about the water versus the fire. Hydrants. Oh, Jill don't
have answers, and we won't have answers on it.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
We're going to get the answers. Nobody's going to give
up until we get the answers. This was too deadly
and too destructive. Daniel Gush, thank you for coming on.
When we come back, John, when we come back. Roger Bailey,
he's an attorney representing thousands of Pacific Palisades residents who
homes were destroyed in the fire. It looks like that
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the state was lying to a court when they claim
that the state never knew that the fire on January
first had happened. You know the whole controversy over the
LA Fire Department not putting out that fire and then
it restarted on January seventh. Well, it started on state
(26:08):
land and the state was trying to claim, well, we
didn't know about the January first flier fire. That was
a lie, and somebody for the state lied in court.
We'll tell you all about it we come back.
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Speaker 2 (26:25):
After Debra's news at two o'clock, we're gonna have Roger
Bailey on an attorney for thousand specific Palisades residents, more
than three thousand of them, and they've got to court.
This fire started on state land, and the allegations say
that the mismanagement by the state caused the wildfire. Remember
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it started on January first on California state land, and
the state lied in court about their role. We're going
to play you a story about New Nation anchor Elizabeth
Vargas and the reporter Rich McHugh on new documents that
revealed a California State rep was in the Palisades a
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week before the big fire, right after the January first
fire play it.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
We have new exclusive details on the investigation into the
handling of the deadly Palisades Fire in California. News Nation
investigative correspondent Rich McHugh obtained documents that may show that
the state is in fact solely responsible for that fire
and possibly for the deaths of the twelve people who died.
Last week, our exclusive reporting found that a state representative
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was present near the burn scar, which had all the
embers deep underground of a fire that had not been
completely turned out. Well, it eventually turned into the Palisades Fire,
and apparently, according to our reporting, a state representative was
on the scene ordering firefighters around, telling them where they
could and could not go. Well, tonight, we not only
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of confirmation that a state representative was there, but we
now know exactly when they arrived and why. News Nation's
Rich M. Hugh joins us now with this exclusive. Rich,
tell us what more you've managed to uncover.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Well, it's really shocking and ultimately comes down to two
really big questions. Number One, did state mismanagement ultimately cause
the Palisades Fire?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
And did they lie about it in court?
Speaker 8 (28:23):
I'll lie about all of it in court, and these
new documents that we've obtained suggests that that's absolutely what happened. Now,
this all began in the early morning hours of January one,
when an alleged arsenist started the Lackman Fire, and we
know underground embers reignited six days later, starting a second,
more devastating fire that was the Palisades Fire. In response
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to a lawsuit from over three thousand Palisades residents alleging
the state failed to monitor embers from that initial fire,
Governor Newsom's office told news Nation.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
The state didn't start this fire.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
That was an arsonist and the state wasn't responsible for
responding to or monitoring this fire.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Now, new court filing as.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
The State goes further and says the Palisades victims cannot
allege the state that the state had noticed of the lock.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And fire because it never had notice.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
State records show a call at twelve twenty seven am
on January one, but with the rest of the incident
report redacted completely blacked out, basically including their response to
that call. But a Los Angeles Fire Department record tells.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Us all the details and the lafd's record show not
only did the LAFD notify the state just after midnight,
the state sent a park representative at one forty six
in the morning on January one, and that state park
representative arrived on scene at four am on January one.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Now that Los Angeles Fire Department incident report shows what
the state will not That the Los Angeles Fire Department
contacted the state after midnight on January one and a
State park rep arrived onseen by four am.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
If the state had no responsibility for this land, why
are they sending a state park rep. The state is
playing hide the ball. They're not being transparent with the public.
Tell us that you sent a state park rep. Tell
us what that state park rep did. Tell us on
the next stage, January two, that you sent another state
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park rep who directed firefighters and said they couldn't bulldoze all.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
These specific questions, Elizabeth, We have asked the Governor Newsom's
office and the California State Parks and they've declined to
answer all of them.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And we have a photo we've put on all our
social media pages. You can go to Twitter, x, you
can go to TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, look at the photo
and you'll see LA Fire Department personnel talking to a
state representative that was said down the day of the
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original fire on January first, and they were there on
January second, apparently was telling firefighters that they couldn't bulldoze.
So somebody was lying in court. Somebody representing Gavin Newsom
in the state of California lied in court to a
judge and claimed that these plaintiffs in the Palisades don't
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have a case because the state never knew about the fire.
It started on state land. They had a rep there.
Roger Bailey, who you heard in that report with Dowstation,
coming on with his next Deborah Mark Live in the
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