March 8, 2024 • 38 mins
Mark Thompson fills in. Sam Rueben talks Oscars. Mark talks about Oscar gift bag swag. Mark's George Santos Cameo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Mark Thompson sitting in for John.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Really cool to be with my pals at KFI and
at iHeart.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We have much to do.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I unearthed the cameo sent to me by George Well,
sent to me by my Courtney, who had George Santos
do it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is at my birthday in December.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I will not play it now but because we have
a visit with a luminary on the line, but after
that I will play it. I also want to acknowledge
I think Angel Martinez is absolutely right. It's called the
observer effect, where the act of observing. In this case
we were talking about the big bear bald eagle nest.
(00:45):
The act of observing changes the outcome. Now, then we're
not saying that that happened in the case of the
bald eagle eggs. But Debra sort of was suggesting, you know,
is that a thing? I mean, are they aware that
there's a camera there? So, but that's what it's called.
I was thinking it's the Schrodinger's cat, which is a
different physics deal. But I think Angel's right, it's the
(01:08):
observer effect, the act of observing. Does that change the
outcome somehow? Anyway? All right, that's the old news. Now
to the news of the weekend here on KFI. Joining
us on the big Oscar celebrity line is Sam Rubin
from KTLA, who is always on top of not only
the Oscars but every kind of award show that comes
(01:31):
down the Red Carpet. There is a live KTLA Live
from the Oscars show this Sunday. It's from one until
three thirty, so you're on all the way up until
close to showtime. Their show starts at four. I think, right, Sam, Hello,
Oh okay? Hello Sam? No, not kidding it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, No, Mark, I'm hello, I got you okay. And
I appreciate the the luminary reference. Although my highlight was
when I called the screener a few moments ago. I
had no idea not but I respected he would who
I was, nor who you were.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a great story.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right, Well, we're off to a hot start, so
you do a live from the Oscar show, I was
saying on the Red Carpet from one to three point
thirty this Sunday on Channel five. But what what can
we expect on the show the main Oscars event.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've said it before. I don't think you can really
compare these things.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean you can these these are Are you calling
us from a microwave oven? Why do I hear that sound?
That banging sound? And yes, are you in the middle
of do me a favor? Yeah, get Sam to a
place we can talk to him. Yeah, get Sam to
(02:49):
a place we can talk to him, or have them
called us back.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. It's always weird.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think when you compare these movies, because they're just
you know, you're gonna compare American fiction to Napoleon. I mean,
tell me how you do that. You're going to compare
Maestro to Oppenheimer. How are you going to do that?
I mean, it just doesn't make poor things. You're you're
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gonna throw that out the way somehow. To Barbie, You're
gonna you see what I mean, They just you can't
compare them. If I said, what should get the award
Michael Angelo's David or Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa, Well,
they're totally different. You can't compare them. And what are
you talking about? That's exactly what these movies are. So
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the Oscars started as a promotion for Hollywood. It was
like a twenty minute long thing. Then it got some
momentum and it turned into you know the Academy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They call it the Academy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I mean, if you live in southern California and you
work and live around Los Angeles in Hollywood, you know
the Academy. You know they mean, Well, don't get me wrong,
but not everybody there is, you know, very academy like
I mean, can be a lot of people sitting around
in T shirts on the couch and they don't even
watch all the movies. So I don't mean to run
(04:12):
down the Oscars either. I think it's really great that
they celebrate this tremendous art form. But I'm just saying
the nature of these comparisons is tortured. To begin with
that said, we love it. It's broadcast worldwide, and Sam
has reported on it dutifully. I want to say for
a couple of decades. Now Sam is back with us.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
The mistake of all times being a Ludi and trying
to go high tech. I thought it would be cool
if I was, you know, wearing the iPods and talking
on the radio, well walking, but I realized that was
a major mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now I'm with you for Keith Cool.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So you know, I was just talking about, you know
how difficult it is to compare these various things. But
there are films that are odds on favorites every year
to do really well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It seems to me Aennheimer's one of them. Are there? Others?
Are there?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Are there also rams that could turn out to be
really celebrated by the Academy.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I think the dilemma this year mark which is not unique,
but it is more acute this year than it has
ever been, is all these predicted winners are almost certain
to be the winners. So how do we generate excitement
on Oscar Sunday when these main six categories have been
parsed and there's all the precursor awards, et cetera. So
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you know, you know more about gaming than I do.
And frankly most anybody I believe you have to bet.
You tell me what you have to bet eight thousand
dollars on Oppenheimer to win Best Picture. If you bet
eight thousand dollars, you'll get one hundred dollars back.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, that let's just let you know. Yeah, So the
smart money is there with Alpenheimer.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So then you turn to some of the other things
that and they use that category is a last category
is the big payoff. But to that, they're supporting actor.
And I wonder if you can just maybe run through
some of that other.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Right we can, Yeah, yeah we can, we can certain
we can certainly talk about those.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I know and one that springs to mind is
in the holdovers, because I think the nominated actress is
only on screen for maybe ten.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Minutes, right, uh, Divine Joy Randolph. And so she is.
She is a lock of lock. She has won every
single precursor and again she is the best supporting actress,
but supporting in small letters. She's not in the movie
that much. And so you know, some people suggest, well
she the Academy loves the movie. They love Paul Giamatti,
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but they can't really award it to him, so because
Killy and Murphy will get it Forroppenheimer. So this is
an award for her and an award for the entire movie.
The one thing that I like about you know that
these are Cinderella stories to a degree, and the speech
she made at the Screen Actress Build Awards, and you know,
I'm a fan of all this stuff. But you know,
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for every person out in southern California, every person listening
right now, probably one out of ten, you know, is
hoping to get a sad card, or that the agent
will call, or something. She said, you know, with conviction,
because it's what happened to her. You know, your life
can change with one phone call, and her career trajectory,
although she certainly has worked before, you know, has changed
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completely because of this ten minutes on screen in The Holdovers.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
By the way, that's the kind of actor I'd like
to be, you know, book me for a film, Let
me do ten minutes, collect my oscar, and I'm out
of here my car.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I would right to wrap my career up after one
What is the right? What was she in prior to this?
Divine Joy? Randolph from the Old Overs?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I should be able to rattle off those titles to you,
and several of my colleagues could. I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But more to the point, Sam, more to the point
I guess I'm getting at, is that this really was
her big break.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yes, yes, this is this is what really put her
on the map as far as Hollywood in general is concerned.
And another example of this, which I think is is
why and this is a cliche phrase I use on
the air constantly, The nomination is the win. Take a
really good actor like Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo has worked
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for years and years and years. I believe it was
Fear of the Walking Dead was his TV series that
ran for a really long time. He's done, you know,
forty fifty roles. But now suddenly everybody's like, oh, that guy,
that guy's Coleman Domingo. Oh, and that guy has the
greatest personality ever. And that guy is you know, a
(08:32):
very compelling speaker and a great guy to interview, and
booked three major movies during award season. So I think
it stuff like that, you know, it helps immeasurably. And
then one other thing we're learning about this has existed
for a long time and it's at a heightened, heightened pace.
All these guys are getting fashion deals to walk down
the red carpet. So I could tell you that, you know,
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Emma Stone will be in you know, gievon Gie before
she even walks the red carpet or whatever sign and
she will make millions for that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wow, what an industry you're in Sam. I can only
imagine the lavishness that is just lathered all over you
every award season too, because you're there on that red
carpet next to that Megan Henderson, who I think is
terrifically uh she's always dressed to the nines as well.
And is who else is with you on that show
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that you do the lead up to the Oscars.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's a Jessica Holmes of course, and Doug Colk. So
we really pride ourselves and we do all these shows,
you know, Critics Choice and the Emmys and all these
shows together is a foursome. Jessica and I are right
on the red carpet, and you know, I enjoy that
too so much because it's a really you know, if
Hollywood is high school with money, this is the prom
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and it is this emotional, vulnerable time and all there
are these other award shows and all that, but when
you go, you know, it's a you know, enormous hassle
to get there. You go through, you know, on airport
security times ten, and then you arrive on that carpet
and it hits you, and it hits you in the
most significant way. And that the two names all drop
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right now? Is I remember both Jennifer Lawrence and Kim
Beasinger trembling, literally shaking because they just you know, this
is every person with their hair brush practicing in the
mirror when they were twelve, and now they're there. Yeah, really, career,
it's really happening.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Can you Sam stay with us for just a second
because we did kind of start late because of our
technical step. So yeah, And I love that Jessica Holmes.
I think she's unflappable, charming and adorable. And I love
that you guys are together for this thing on Sunday.
So one to one to three thirty on KTLA. All right,
we'll continue with Sam Rybin more about the Oscars and
about what to expect. As we continue. John Cobalt Show
(10:48):
six forty. KFI is where we are. We call it
KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We're talking to Sam Rubin about the Oscars coming up
Sunday's a big deal and if you're going to Oscar
viewing party, whatever you own, Sam's on that red carpet
he's got the KTLA show from one until four. They
start the Oscars at four this year, Sam, Why are
they starting them an hour earlier.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Because they get a precipitous decline in viewership, particularly in
the East Coast, once they go past X time. The
Oscars for many years in the East started at eight,
and you know it's scheduled for three and a half hours.
Once you get past eleven PM in the East, and
particularly once you get past midnight, and the show many
times has run more than four hours, people got to
go to bed. Yeah, so they decided to start an
(11:40):
hour euler and then the other thing, which I think
is really gonna affect things, and I almost I am
certain there's going to be one or two very tardy
stars because the time change Saturday nine and Sunday, people
are gonna forget the name.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh wow, that's such an underreported thoughts big time. Well,
I'm looking forward to seeing Jimmy Kimmel hosting. I just
love Jimmy Kimmel, and I think he's you know, the clay.
They love him too, otherwise you wouldn't be back to
host it again.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But what it is, well, I think he's comfortable, you know,
his wife is the executive producer. So I think Molly
will try to hear it towards his strength, and you know,
I think he is relaxed and comfortable. And what happened
last year Brenda Fraser, most notably is you know, there
are these moments, there's there are these really emotional emotional moments,
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and that's what you hope for. The thing you don't
want to see happen is somebody just pulling out a
piece of paper and you know, reading at you know,
oh and my friend at uta blah blah blah. Nobody
wants to hear that.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm just looking at other movies. Anatomy of a Fall
I really liked. I mean, it's so it was.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, but that's another temple. I'm glad you bring that up.
Would you have heard of anatomy of a fall if
it weren't quote unquote in the Oscar conversation?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Great, great point. So the oscars in that sense do
what they're supposed to do. They raise your awareness of.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Movies precisely right. And so in this particular year, all
ten Best Picture nominees are worthy. It's not like, oh,
there's eight and then we threw in the Angelina's movie
because we hope to show it up or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's interesting because, as you say it, and I think
you make that case very well with just that example
of Anatomy of Fall. You see the absurdity of comparing
these films in Best Picture, but you also see the
virtue in creating a competition, a fake competition, even though
I know it really takes it very seriously because it
does bring your attention to these ten films. You almost
(13:43):
wish that you know more of these other films, like
the international films, the foreign films, the films that the shorts,
all of these things, the best animated shorts.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We used to go to the live action short.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
There's a little not a film festival, but they had
all the shorts over at the it was on the
West Side, that AMC theater. Now it's closed. I think
I feel kind of that's sad that more oxygen media
wise doesn't go to some of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Right. I don't disagree with you, but Jeffrey Wright, who
of course is so great in American fiction, pointed out
that American fiction probably didn't have the total budget that
the catering budget on the Batman movie. He did had.
So I do like the idea, though I do think
Oppenheimer is likely to dominate. I do like the idea
that these quote unquote smaller movies, but movies with the
(14:33):
extraordinary merit are at least in that conversation. And you know,
there are people all over the country. You know, you
would think Hollywood woud the epicenter. Who are these rabbit
film fans? And so they make a point because you know,
they want to be the smartest guy at their oscar party.
Well you know, I saw that one, you know, and
I saw a zone of interest, and they want to
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be able to say that they did.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
All right before before you leave, a Sam Rubbin, tell
me how I at my oscar party? Fill out the
stuff like short film, animated short film, live action, documentary,
short subject, visual effects, visual effects.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At least they can take a shot at.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, these are films that maybe I've seen or
you know, I know what a visual effect is. But
some of these documentary short subjects, I don't even know
how to take a shot at those.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, a website you may or may not be familiar
with is called Goldderby dot com. Okay, and Golderby dot
com is again to your interest. Is the betting person's
website strictly for award shows, so they handicap it. They
have experts, they have amateurs, and they also I really
(15:45):
like gold Derby tremendously and they also have contests, so
if you enter as an amateur and you win, you know,
the prizes maybe yours popcorn at AMC or I think
there may be cash prizes. But a site like gold
Derby is particularly good at this kind of thing because
here's twenty people on you know, obscure category number seventeen.
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But those twenty people you know, seemingly know and are
into it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yes, exactly right, thank you for this. They all seem
to agree on best song from Barbie.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yes, yeah, yes, and it's not so the the number
that's going to get all the attention is Billy Guy.
Excuse me, is Ryan Gosling singing I'm just ken. But
the best song, which I think is the best song,
is this Billie Eilish song What was I Made For?
Because what was so great about Barbie is Barbie is
eighty percent merangue. But then is you know actual there's
(16:41):
meat there as well, and that song, which I think
is heartfelt and beautiful and I'm a big Billy Eilish fan.
I think she's just terrific. That song really encompasses that,
so I think that's gonna be another good moment. They're
you know, producers are already now sixty five dancers for
the ten numbers, and I think you're gonna see I
think you're gonna see cameos there. I think you're going
to see famous faces on stage dancing and singing with
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Ryan Gosling. And then I think the Billie Eilish thing
will but likely to Billy and Phineas at the piano.
It'll be quiet and small, but I think that's going
to be really, really good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, we're going to watch you in the lead up
to the Oscars Sunday on Channel five one to three thirty.
If you don't have Channel five, you may have cut
the cord. The whole show is also going to be
streamed at KTLA dot com and on the KTLA Plus app.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I know you're on Instagram, at Sam on TV and
on X and Twitter and all that stuff, and at
Sam on TV.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You do a great job. I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, you wouldn't be back for all these many years
were you not super great at what you do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So thanks for being.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Here, Barb. That's nice to you know. I want to
tell people the KTLA plus app has for some reason
richer colors. So if you want to really, if you
want to, if you want to think into that Jessica
Holmes outfit that Megan sort of higher figh, it is
definitely on. You know, the plus is really good.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Ok. Thank you, Sam, good stuff, good luck and enjoyed.
Thank you, Sam Rubin, thank you just looking up. It's
in the swag bag this year. It's crazy. I'll give
you a couple of those things. Also, speaking of cameos,
the cameo that was sent to me by George Santos.
I do have it and we'll play it next. It's
pretty crazy. It's not long, but man, it's it was
(18:30):
done for me. As you will see, it's the John
co Belt Show kf I AM six forty, Mark Thompson
sitting in for John. We're live everywhere on that iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Mark Thompson here for John co Belt. Got a idea
of what this swag bag? I guess you know it
was interesting to me. What was interesting to me is
that Sam Rubin mentioned that literally some of these seems
to me probably actresses.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I guess they call them actors now they don't. It's weird.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You're supposed to call everybody an actor and not separate
actor and actress, and yet they have best supporting actress
and best supporting Actor, right, Debrah, that doesn't in.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Any you know, I never really thought about that, but
you're right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's just odd to me.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But in conversation, like the politically correct thing to do
is to just call everybody an actor. It's not gender specific,
but then they make a gender specific with the nominations
actress and actors.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Give it a few years and that will change. Yeah.
Maybe I don't know how they distinguish between you know,
it'll just be one category. Oh that could be.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well that would what a sing alert mess that'll be anyway.
So I'm looking at the swag and I'm glad you're
here because I see you again. I'm sorry, but as
enjoying many of the things that are in the swag.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Bag, I would love to get that swag.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now, the gifts are not affiliated with the Academy Awards,
but They're a private marketing endeavor, and marketing is at
the core of what all these bags are about. Right,
they stock them with all kinds of things. They want
actors and a high profile show business people to, you know,
go to a ski shalet in the Swiss Alps, bring
their friends. They you know, they generally do it for it. Well,
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here's an example. The most expensive gift is an invitation
for a fifty thousand dollars vacation in the Swiss Alps.
This is in a ski salet, you and nine of
your friends. If you're an Oscar.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Nominee, how can I get this gig?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean that's like, it's pretty significant. And again it's
worth fifty thousand dollars and the gift bag itself is
valued roughly at one hundred and eighty thousand dollars over
fifty gifts mark.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
We can host, we can announce, That's what I meant
to say. We can announce, right, I think the announcers
really get much of this shot announcers. But we can
go and presenter. That's what I'm saying. Oh presenters.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, here are two people you've never heard of,
ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Two people you've never heard of. We're giving them their
big break.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, it is wild that many of these people who
get this stuff. It's all very consistent with the theme
super rich people get a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
They don't need to pay for it, right, and they
could buy it themselves so easily.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But fame gets them a lot. So it's really a
win win. That is to say, you get millions for
being in Oppenheimer and then you get the gift bag
on side, And as Debrah says, not only can you
buy yourself, it's kind of a rounding error. I mean,
I know, to us it's like a lot of money,
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars insane. But the reality
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is that you know it's compared to the net worth
of most of these people.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Is that all you got? No, h Here we go.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
A five piece luxury gift set from Miyage Skincare that's
five hundred and fifteen dollars. A ten thousand dollars dollars
micro needling treatment from Sinosure designed to tighten and revitalize.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Boy, I could use a weekend of that tightening and
revitalizing stuff. A seven day retreat at the Golden Door, California,
which is a transformative and rejuvenating experience. A lot of tightening, revitalizing,
transforming and rejuvenating in this bag.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think that's what they like.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I see it's there value to twenty four thousand dollars. Wow,
this is a cool one like this. This is what
I'd like. I really want. I want to throw a
party and I want something like this there. But it's
twenty five thousand dollars. It's a live show, oh from
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mentalist Carl Chrisman. Carl Christman apparently combines magic, mind reading, hypnosis,
and comedy. It's a twenty five thousand dollars value. And
you can build the live show around a birthday party
or whatever you want. And in honor of the Rubik's
Cube fiftieth anniversary, a retro themed version of the Rubik's
(23:23):
Cube featuring the original logo and color scheme that believe
it or not is the most affordable only.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Fifteen dollars nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Bradley Cooper, Emma Stone, Colman Domingo, Lily Gladstone, and that Benning,
all of them will get access to these things and
these bags. That is just the beginning. There is so
much offered and continues to be offered. They actually have
gifting suitees that go on for a couple of weeks
before the event.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So I'm telling you about one bag.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
There are these gifting suite set up and the stars
and others associated with the Academy and with the festivities.
They may be even directors and cinematographers, et cetera. They're
set loose in all of this and they kind of
go on a buying spree, only they don't have to
pay for anything.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So feel so deprived. It's it's not the business. We've
chosen los not the business. There are other rewards here.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Well, you get to say hide to Petros and money
in the hallway. I mean, you can't put a price
tag on these things. It's access, that's what we get.
Maybe Ryan Seacrest you'll see coming in to do his show.
When we come back. You will indulge me. You must
hear the cameos sent to me by George Santos. Yes,
(24:47):
it was sent to me for my birthday. We'll do
it next. And is Conway coming in also?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I guess Conway comes through here as well as the
closer to the four o'clock hour that's a highlight. That's light.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, that's right. He can tell you story his dad
and the Carol Burnet Show. I love those stories.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Actually, I don't know if they quite measure up to
the give back, but there's something anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's a John cole Belt show. Mark Thompson sitting in
for John on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on
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Speaker 5 (25:16):
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Speaker 3 (25:22):
John I thinks back on Monday, taking the three day weekend.
Good for him. It's a really cool Conway ahead. We
have much going on. Conry will get to a lot
of it. We've talked about a bunch of stuff today,
talked about the Katie Porter suggestion that the Senate election
was rigged, got into a bit of the State of
(25:42):
the Union, the State of the Union response earlier, and
we did touch on the fact that George Santos was
at the State of the Union address, which is kind
of weird. As you know, he was removed apparently he's
meaning he's removed from office. He was not removed from
the chambers. Last night.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He was there.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I saw him sitting next to Matt Gates. He's a
likable fellow. He's had a little issue with truth and
concocting his resume and personal history, as you know, to
the point that they removed him. I mean, he was
also removed really over as you may remember, spending a
lot of donor money on personal things like paying off
(26:24):
credit card stuff and various health and wellness treatment type thing. Anyway,
I just do remind you of his history, so you know,
between the stacks of mistruths and lies and then sort
of spending this money in these ways that are well
frankly illegal. He was tossed. But he is, as I say,
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kind of a likable figure. And he apparently has made
more money through this app cameo than he's ever made
in his life. He said that, like he's having the
biggest year of inme in his life as a result
of these cameos. They've stacked up like crazy, these requests
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for him to send greetings of one sort or another
to people all around the world. And he's in a
as you know, lawsuit with Jimmy Kimmel who asked him
to do a bunch of cameos and he thought they
were one thing, and then Jimmy used them on his show.
For my birthday, Courtney got him to do a cameo
(27:27):
for me, and I had no idea that this was happening,
and he must have.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And this is the only last thing. I don't go
to play it for you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
The only last thing I'm going to say is it
was by no means clear apparently that he was going
to do it because he was kind of wrapping up
for the year and on my birthday is the day
after Christmas, and he just like he was going on
vacation and he didn't want to up do any more cameos.
So he does this in a car. Clearly it was
in a cab or something, but he does the cameo.
(28:00):
And here's what it sounds like, hay.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Mark, it's Stuart Santos.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Here.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
A lot of people are telling me you're a liar
because you say you're one age, but you look so
much younger. So happy birthday, and what's a little lie
between friends?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I mean, come on, what's the worst that could happen? Mark?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Courtney sends this message with all the love in the world,
Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's just the greatest.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean, I love it, but I mean it's the
last part that I love the most, Right, what's a
little lie among friends or between friends? And what's the
worst that could happen? I just love this is the
guy who is tossed from Congress. It's brilliant. I mean,
it's just the worst that could happen. Yeah, I mean,
it just is the best. I commend her for the
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writing and commend her for the execution.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I mean, and what's a little lie between friends? Yeah,
I mean, come on, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So he was back last night, and the word out
of George Santo is just because he's become one of
these curious stories in American politics. He's saying he's going
to run for office again. This is a guy who
was hounded by media, you may remember. I mean, he
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couldn't walk down the halls of Congress without this gaggle
of media around him hounding about various lies he'd told, mistruths.
He was expelled from Congress again, reminding you the House
Ethics Committee said that he'd exploited his position for financial gain.
He's running for office again. He announced his plans after
(29:48):
the State of the Union address last night. He's saying,
and this is a quote, I left office arbitrarily in December.
Now even that's that's not true. He was ousted by
his colleagues. You didn't leave office arbitrarily. You were tossed
out of office, he says this. And this is a
(30:12):
brilliant play in America to say this kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
After a lot of prayer and conversation with my friends
and family. Again mentioned prayer, you mentioned friends, and most
of all, you mentioned family. After a lot of prayer
and conversation with my friends and family, I've made a
very important decision that will shake things up.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Again.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Continuing from George Santos, tonight, I want to announce that
I will be returning to the arena of politics and
challenging Nick. That's the guy in his district who's now
serving Nick Nick Lolota for the battle over New York one.
So he then said, on a tonight, I came to
(31:01):
the State of the Union with an open mind and
heart because I believe in the great idea that is
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then he banged on Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I just witnessed a weak, frail president deliver spin and
lies to the American people. From inside the chambers. So
he's he's not a Biden fan, and essentially he's now
banging the drum that New Yorkers need a real conservative.
He even uses those terms, I need New Yorkers need
(31:32):
a real conservative to represent them. And his former seat
in New York's third congressional district was won by a Democrat,
Tom Swosey in a special election, as you know, in
February once he was removed there to have a special
election there, so the.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Primary for that seat will be held in June. But
it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know, he doesn't really have a track record legislatively
to talk about, but he's playing himself as a conservative champion.
He's trying to essentially reconstitute himself as this conservative dude,
I am your conservative savior. But the New York Times
called it a notoriety tour that he went on with
(32:16):
his personalized videos on cameo. But it's pretty you know,
by the way, how much do you think one of
his cameo's costs five hundred dollars apiece? In late December,
when Courtney got me that that cameo.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Is she she she must?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I don't know where she got that money. That's a
five hundred dollars. That's that's a pretty penny for him.
I agree, that's a lot of money for.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
The it's Stuart Santos here.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I mean, that's a saying, wow, you really hit the
ball for.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Though, Come on, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, he had a.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Little bit of a brilliant cameo. Five hundred bucks, well spent,
thank you, Thank you, Courtney. Aside from that, the State
of the Union, of course, is being played on both sides.
The one side is saying that Biden hit it out
of the park, you know, never stronger. You're telling me
that this guy is, you know, this old and firm guy.
(33:17):
And the Democrats were talking about how terrific his messaging
was and how incredibly energetic and what a brilliant speech was.
He'd spoke for over well over an hour. The right
is saying, what was he on? How could he have
spoken that way? He's definitely on some kind of you know,
(33:39):
medicine that jacked him up. So you picked your interpretation,
but there it was, speaking of being jacked up on medication,
sitting down.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hey now, buddy, how are you? Tim Conway Jr.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I you and I got into it yesterday with the storm.
Oh yeah, you hated the term that I used the
eye of the store.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I wouldn't have minded it one to maybe even
five times, but you said it seventeen times. The eye
of the storm is over your house, the ie the
storm is coming to you, crouch of the store. And
I said, God, I just you knew what I meant,
though no severity of the store. I hated to be
that guy, and I was that guy, but you turned
out to be that guy. I did. I did it,
and I take that. And I even said in my message,
(34:23):
I feel like a p one who's writing in about
somebody using you know, my mom used to do that.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
I hate to say that, oh, because that's really insulting, but.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
My mom used to.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
My mom used to call radio stations and correct people,
Like when I worked at Kyla Sex, she wanted me
to call God.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
I think it was Robin Arabkerry, and maybe it was
somebody else who was filling in.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Somebody was filling in and they said, oh, Orion Pictures
has just been sold, and my mom heard that.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I was driving around my mom.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And she said could you please call the station and
says it's not Orian, it's Orion, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
I Am not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But they were great though. I got me through the
storm yesterday. I was listening and honest to god, I
know it was a huge storm.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, you would app you're going to you know, you know,
if you're in but a park, it's going to get
you in eleven minutes. I mean a big cell, it's
gonna come alone much right, It's very impressive. That's right, man.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
It was an unbelievable storm and it all started with
perfect timing. It started at three point fifty nine pm.
Oh yeah, it was when it really hit. They had emerged,
They had eas come on and warn everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
You had hail and thunder, lightning, wind. It was crazy
and now look at it today, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It is crazy. So let me ask you as a
weather guy.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Yes, when we have something like that's that ferocious, you know,
like a hurricane or a tornado, it takes all that
energy with it. So is it typically very clear afterwards
a big storm.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Like that, Well, we can generally you have more stable
conditions in behind a system like that. So if it's
a frontal system.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right, and is that what we had yesterday?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I really don't know. I didn't look, but if it is,
I'm guessing it was that. The kind of weather we
had yesterday is typical of instability in the atmosphere. So
you get right, that's what causes that rapid development, vertical development,
and that's what creates thunderstorms. So generally behind that, I mean,
if it's a weather front, you'll have much more stable conditions.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And that's the kind of weather that we have today.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I was listening to Dallas Rains, who is not as
good with weather like you are. Yeah, but he said,
the updraft into the very cold atmosphere is what creates
that hail.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well, what essentially did he get that right? The water particles, Yes,
he's mostly right about that. The water particles are kicked
back up, and as they're kicked back up, each time,
they get bigger and bigger, and they start to freeze, right,
little bits of ice form around them, and then they
get too heavy.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And they drop out of the cloud. What happens, You've
got it.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
But I can't believe that the clouds are able to
produce hail the size of like softballs.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's wild.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I mean when think about that, with these clouds that
go all the way up to thirty five thousand feet,
there's tremendous vertical motion. It's violent in those clouds, you know,
and that's what causes it up and down and up
and down.
Speaker 8 (37:03):
I know you're gonna think that I'm bsing you.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'm not.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
I think the reason why the valley got all that
crazy weather way too many SUVs. Is that possible.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't see the connections.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
There's more families that live in the valley with the SUVs,
and they drive around these SUV's and that's where the
storm went.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Fu.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
You're gonna drive an suv, I'm gonna I'm gonna rain
on your parade, bub.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Happened, Mark Conway. More theories like that is what you need, Okay.
I was so sorry to see Steve Lawrence passed away.
I know it's not horrible because I last time I
saw him was that your Dad's memorials.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
You know, nobody in the world, and I can say
this because that's a fact, Jack, Nobody made my dad
laugh harder than Steve Laurin.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
There's a great clip that you've I reposted it. I
loved it that much, the one you posted on social
media when they were playing, when they are three, them
were sitting in a booth.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
There's nobody that made my dad laugh more than Steve
la Carman, Conway and that's right, man, that's a great clip.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Great clip. Hey, we have Adam Carolla coming on today.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Alex Michael sim Yeah, and we got to clear up
I said something wrong about Deborah Mark yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I got to clear that up.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Wow, there's a lot to do official apology. Yeah, all right,
well Conway's next. Thanks all.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Can you stick around for three hours?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I would, except I got to do Maya show That
Thompson Show on YouTube god KFI AM six forty live
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Speaker 1 (38:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:07):
Really cool to be with my pals at KFI and
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
We have much to do.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I unearthed the cameo sent to me by George Well,
sent to me by my Courtney, who had George Santos
do it.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is at my birthday in December.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I will not play it now but because we have
a visit with a luminary on the line, but after
that I will play it. I also want to acknowledge
I think Angel Martinez is absolutely right. It's called the
observer effect, where the act of observing. In this case
we were talking about the big bear bald eagle nest.
(00:45):
The act of observing changes the outcome. Now, then we're
not saying that that happened in the case of the
bald eagle eggs. But Debra sort of was suggesting, you know,
is that a thing? I mean, are they aware that
there's a camera there? So, but that's what it's called.
I was thinking it's the Schrodinger's cat, which is a
different physics deal. But I think Angel's right, it's the
(01:08):
observer effect, the act of observing. Does that change the
outcome somehow? Anyway? All right, that's the old news. Now
to the news of the weekend here on KFI. Joining
us on the big Oscar celebrity line is Sam Rubin
from KTLA, who is always on top of not only
the Oscars but every kind of award show that comes
(01:31):
down the Red Carpet. There is a live KTLA Live
from the Oscars show this Sunday. It's from one until
three thirty, so you're on all the way up until
close to showtime. Their show starts at four. I think, right, Sam, Hello,
Oh okay? Hello Sam? No, not kidding it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, No, Mark, I'm hello, I got you okay. And
I appreciate the the luminary reference. Although my highlight was
when I called the screener a few moments ago. I
had no idea not but I respected he would who
I was, nor who you were.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a great story.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right, Well, we're off to a hot start, so
you do a live from the Oscar show, I was
saying on the Red Carpet from one to three point
thirty this Sunday on Channel five. But what what can
we expect on the show the main Oscars event.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've said it before. I don't think you can really
compare these things.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean you can these these are Are you calling
us from a microwave oven? Why do I hear that sound?
That banging sound? And yes, are you in the middle
of do me a favor? Yeah, get Sam to a
place we can talk to him. Yeah, get Sam to
(02:49):
a place we can talk to him, or have them
called us back.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. It's always weird.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think when you compare these movies, because they're just
you know, you're gonna compare American fiction to Napoleon. I mean,
tell me how you do that. You're going to compare
Maestro to Oppenheimer. How are you going to do that?
I mean, it just doesn't make poor things. You're you're
(03:14):
gonna throw that out the way somehow. To Barbie, You're
gonna you see what I mean, They just you can't
compare them. If I said, what should get the award
Michael Angelo's David or Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa, Well,
they're totally different. You can't compare them. And what are
you talking about? That's exactly what these movies are. So
(03:35):
the Oscars started as a promotion for Hollywood. It was
like a twenty minute long thing. Then it got some
momentum and it turned into you know the Academy.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They call it the Academy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I mean, if you live in southern California and you
work and live around Los Angeles in Hollywood, you know
the Academy. You know they mean, Well, don't get me wrong,
but not everybody there is, you know, very academy like
I mean, can be a lot of people sitting around
in T shirts on the couch and they don't even
watch all the movies. So I don't mean to run
(04:12):
down the Oscars either. I think it's really great that
they celebrate this tremendous art form. But I'm just saying
the nature of these comparisons is tortured. To begin with
that said, we love it. It's broadcast worldwide, and Sam
has reported on it dutifully. I want to say for
a couple of decades. Now Sam is back with us.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
The mistake of all times being a Ludi and trying
to go high tech. I thought it would be cool
if I was, you know, wearing the iPods and talking
on the radio, well walking, but I realized that was
a major mistake.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now I'm with you for Keith Cool.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So you know, I was just talking about, you know
how difficult it is to compare these various things. But
there are films that are odds on favorites every year
to do really well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It seems to me Aennheimer's one of them. Are there? Others?
Are there?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Are there also rams that could turn out to be
really celebrated by the Academy.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I think the dilemma this year mark which is not unique,
but it is more acute this year than it has
ever been, is all these predicted winners are almost certain
to be the winners. So how do we generate excitement
on Oscar Sunday when these main six categories have been
parsed and there's all the precursor awards, et cetera. So
(05:30):
you know, you know more about gaming than I do.
And frankly most anybody I believe you have to bet.
You tell me what you have to bet eight thousand
dollars on Oppenheimer to win Best Picture. If you bet
eight thousand dollars, you'll get one hundred dollars back.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, that let's just let you know. Yeah, So the
smart money is there with Alpenheimer.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
So then you turn to some of the other things
that and they use that category is a last category
is the big payoff. But to that, they're supporting actor.
And I wonder if you can just maybe run through
some of that other.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Right we can, Yeah, yeah we can, we can certain
we can certainly talk about those.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I know and one that springs to mind is
in the holdovers, because I think the nominated actress is
only on screen for maybe ten.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Minutes, right, uh, Divine Joy Randolph. And so she is.
She is a lock of lock. She has won every
single precursor and again she is the best supporting actress,
but supporting in small letters. She's not in the movie
that much. And so you know, some people suggest, well
she the Academy loves the movie. They love Paul Giamatti,
(06:38):
but they can't really award it to him, so because
Killy and Murphy will get it Forroppenheimer. So this is
an award for her and an award for the entire movie.
The one thing that I like about you know that
these are Cinderella stories to a degree, and the speech
she made at the Screen Actress Build Awards, and you know,
I'm a fan of all this stuff. But you know,
(06:59):
for every person out in southern California, every person listening
right now, probably one out of ten, you know, is
hoping to get a sad card, or that the agent
will call, or something. She said, you know, with conviction,
because it's what happened to her. You know, your life
can change with one phone call, and her career trajectory,
although she certainly has worked before, you know, has changed
(07:22):
completely because of this ten minutes on screen in The Holdovers.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
By the way, that's the kind of actor I'd like
to be, you know, book me for a film, Let
me do ten minutes, collect my oscar, and I'm out
of here my car.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I would right to wrap my career up after one
What is the right? What was she in prior to this?
Divine Joy? Randolph from the Old Overs?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I should be able to rattle off those titles to you,
and several of my colleagues could. I can't.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But more to the point, Sam, more to the point
I guess I'm getting at, is that this really was
her big break.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yes, yes, this is this is what really put her
on the map as far as Hollywood in general is concerned.
And another example of this, which I think is is
why and this is a cliche phrase I use on
the air constantly, The nomination is the win. Take a
really good actor like Coleman Domingo. Coleman Domingo has worked
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for years and years and years. I believe it was
Fear of the Walking Dead was his TV series that
ran for a really long time. He's done, you know,
forty fifty roles. But now suddenly everybody's like, oh, that guy,
that guy's Coleman Domingo. Oh, and that guy has the
greatest personality ever. And that guy is you know, a
(08:32):
very compelling speaker and a great guy to interview, and
booked three major movies during award season. So I think
it stuff like that, you know, it helps immeasurably. And
then one other thing we're learning about this has existed
for a long time and it's at a heightened, heightened pace.
All these guys are getting fashion deals to walk down
the red carpet. So I could tell you that, you know,
(08:54):
Emma Stone will be in you know, gievon Gie before
she even walks the red carpet or whatever sign and
she will make millions for that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wow, what an industry you're in Sam. I can only
imagine the lavishness that is just lathered all over you
every award season too, because you're there on that red
carpet next to that Megan Henderson, who I think is
terrifically uh she's always dressed to the nines as well.
And is who else is with you on that show
(09:24):
that you do the lead up to the Oscars.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's a Jessica Holmes of course, and Doug Colk. So
we really pride ourselves and we do all these shows,
you know, Critics Choice and the Emmys and all these
shows together is a foursome. Jessica and I are right
on the red carpet, and you know, I enjoy that
too so much because it's a really you know, if
Hollywood is high school with money, this is the prom
(09:48):
and it is this emotional, vulnerable time and all there
are these other award shows and all that, but when
you go, you know, it's a you know, enormous hassle
to get there. You go through, you know, on airport
security times ten, and then you arrive on that carpet
and it hits you, and it hits you in the
most significant way. And that the two names all drop
(10:11):
right now? Is I remember both Jennifer Lawrence and Kim
Beasinger trembling, literally shaking because they just you know, this
is every person with their hair brush practicing in the
mirror when they were twelve, and now they're there. Yeah, really, career,
it's really happening.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Can you Sam stay with us for just a second
because we did kind of start late because of our
technical step. So yeah, And I love that Jessica Holmes.
I think she's unflappable, charming and adorable. And I love
that you guys are together for this thing on Sunday.
So one to one to three thirty on KTLA. All right,
we'll continue with Sam Rybin more about the Oscars and
about what to expect. As we continue. John Cobalt Show
(10:48):
six forty. KFI is where we are. We call it
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Speaker 5 (10:56):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We're talking to Sam Rubin about the Oscars coming up
Sunday's a big deal and if you're going to Oscar
viewing party, whatever you own, Sam's on that red carpet
he's got the KTLA show from one until four. They
start the Oscars at four this year, Sam, Why are
they starting them an hour earlier.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Because they get a precipitous decline in viewership, particularly in
the East Coast, once they go past X time. The
Oscars for many years in the East started at eight,
and you know it's scheduled for three and a half hours.
Once you get past eleven PM in the East, and
particularly once you get past midnight, and the show many
times has run more than four hours, people got to
go to bed. Yeah, so they decided to start an
(11:40):
hour euler and then the other thing, which I think
is really gonna affect things, and I almost I am
certain there's going to be one or two very tardy
stars because the time change Saturday nine and Sunday, people
are gonna forget the name.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh wow, that's such an underreported thoughts big time. Well,
I'm looking forward to seeing Jimmy Kimmel hosting. I just
love Jimmy Kimmel, and I think he's you know, the clay.
They love him too, otherwise you wouldn't be back to
host it again.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But what it is, well, I think he's comfortable, you know,
his wife is the executive producer. So I think Molly
will try to hear it towards his strength, and you know,
I think he is relaxed and comfortable. And what happened
last year Brenda Fraser, most notably is you know, there
are these moments, there's there are these really emotional emotional moments,
(12:31):
and that's what you hope for. The thing you don't
want to see happen is somebody just pulling out a
piece of paper and you know, reading at you know,
oh and my friend at uta blah blah blah. Nobody
wants to hear that.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm just looking at other movies. Anatomy of a Fall
I really liked. I mean, it's so it was.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, but that's another temple. I'm glad you bring that up.
Would you have heard of anatomy of a fall if
it weren't quote unquote in the Oscar conversation?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Great, great point. So the oscars in that sense do
what they're supposed to do. They raise your awareness of.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Movies precisely right. And so in this particular year, all
ten Best Picture nominees are worthy. It's not like, oh,
there's eight and then we threw in the Angelina's movie
because we hope to show it up or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
It's interesting because, as you say it, and I think
you make that case very well with just that example
of Anatomy of Fall. You see the absurdity of comparing
these films in Best Picture, but you also see the
virtue in creating a competition, a fake competition, even though
I know it really takes it very seriously because it
does bring your attention to these ten films. You almost
(13:43):
wish that you know more of these other films, like
the international films, the foreign films, the films that the shorts,
all of these things, the best animated shorts.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
We used to go to the live action short.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
There's a little not a film festival, but they had
all the shorts over at the it was on the
West Side, that AMC theater. Now it's closed. I think
I feel kind of that's sad that more oxygen media
wise doesn't go to some of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Right. I don't disagree with you, but Jeffrey Wright, who
of course is so great in American fiction, pointed out
that American fiction probably didn't have the total budget that
the catering budget on the Batman movie. He did had.
So I do like the idea, though I do think
Oppenheimer is likely to dominate. I do like the idea
that these quote unquote smaller movies, but movies with the
(14:33):
extraordinary merit are at least in that conversation. And you know,
there are people all over the country. You know, you
would think Hollywood woud the epicenter. Who are these rabbit
film fans? And so they make a point because you know,
they want to be the smartest guy at their oscar party.
Well you know, I saw that one, you know, and
I saw a zone of interest, and they want to
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be able to say that they did.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
All right before before you leave, a Sam Rubbin, tell
me how I at my oscar party? Fill out the
stuff like short film, animated short film, live action, documentary,
short subject, visual effects, visual effects.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
At least they can take a shot at.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, these are films that maybe I've seen or
you know, I know what a visual effect is. But
some of these documentary short subjects, I don't even know
how to take a shot at those.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, a website you may or may not be familiar
with is called Goldderby dot com. Okay, and Golderby dot
com is again to your interest. Is the betting person's
website strictly for award shows, so they handicap it. They
have experts, they have amateurs, and they also I really
(15:45):
like gold Derby tremendously and they also have contests, so
if you enter as an amateur and you win, you know,
the prizes maybe yours popcorn at AMC or I think
there may be cash prizes. But a site like gold
Derby is particularly good at this kind of thing because
here's twenty people on you know, obscure category number seventeen.
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But those twenty people you know, seemingly know and are
into it.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yes, exactly right, thank you for this. They all seem
to agree on best song from Barbie.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yes, yeah, yes, and it's not so the the number
that's going to get all the attention is Billy Guy.
Excuse me, is Ryan Gosling singing I'm just ken. But
the best song, which I think is the best song,
is this Billie Eilish song What was I Made For?
Because what was so great about Barbie is Barbie is
eighty percent merangue. But then is you know actual there's
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meat there as well, and that song, which I think
is heartfelt and beautiful and I'm a big Billy Eilish fan.
I think she's just terrific. That song really encompasses that,
so I think that's gonna be another good moment. They're
you know, producers are already now sixty five dancers for
the ten numbers, and I think you're gonna see I
think you're gonna see cameos there. I think you're going
to see famous faces on stage dancing and singing with
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Ryan Gosling. And then I think the Billie Eilish thing
will but likely to Billy and Phineas at the piano.
It'll be quiet and small, but I think that's going
to be really, really good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, we're going to watch you in the lead up
to the Oscars Sunday on Channel five one to three thirty.
If you don't have Channel five, you may have cut
the cord. The whole show is also going to be
streamed at KTLA dot com and on the KTLA Plus app.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I know you're on Instagram, at Sam on TV and
on X and Twitter and all that stuff, and at
Sam on TV.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You do a great job. I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, you wouldn't be back for all these many years
were you not super great at what you do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
So thanks for being.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Here, Barb. That's nice to you know. I want to
tell people the KTLA plus app has for some reason
richer colors. So if you want to really, if you
want to, if you want to think into that Jessica
Holmes outfit that Megan sort of higher figh, it is
definitely on. You know, the plus is really good.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Ok. Thank you, Sam, good stuff, good luck and enjoyed.
Thank you, Sam Rubin, thank you just looking up. It's
in the swag bag this year. It's crazy. I'll give
you a couple of those things. Also, speaking of cameos,
the cameo that was sent to me by George Santos.
I do have it and we'll play it next. It's
pretty crazy. It's not long, but man, it's it was
(18:30):
done for me. As you will see, it's the John
co Belt Show kf I AM six forty, Mark Thompson
sitting in for John. We're live everywhere on that iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Mark Thompson here for John co Belt. Got a idea
of what this swag bag? I guess you know it
was interesting to me. What was interesting to me is
that Sam Rubin mentioned that literally some of these seems
to me probably actresses.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I guess they call them actors now they don't. It's weird.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You're supposed to call everybody an actor and not separate
actor and actress, and yet they have best supporting actress
and best supporting Actor, right, Debrah, that doesn't in.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Any you know, I never really thought about that, but
you're right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's just odd to me.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But in conversation, like the politically correct thing to do
is to just call everybody an actor. It's not gender specific,
but then they make a gender specific with the nominations
actress and actors.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Give it a few years and that will change. Yeah.
Maybe I don't know how they distinguish between you know,
it'll just be one category. Oh that could be.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Well that would what a sing alert mess that'll be anyway.
So I'm looking at the swag and I'm glad you're
here because I see you again. I'm sorry, but as
enjoying many of the things that are in the swag.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Bag, I would love to get that swag.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now, the gifts are not affiliated with the Academy Awards,
but They're a private marketing endeavor, and marketing is at
the core of what all these bags are about. Right,
they stock them with all kinds of things. They want
actors and a high profile show business people to, you know,
go to a ski shalet in the Swiss Alps, bring
their friends. They you know, they generally do it for it. Well,
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here's an example. The most expensive gift is an invitation
for a fifty thousand dollars vacation in the Swiss Alps.
This is in a ski salet, you and nine of
your friends. If you're an Oscar.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Nominee, how can I get this gig?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I mean that's like, it's pretty significant. And again it's
worth fifty thousand dollars and the gift bag itself is
valued roughly at one hundred and eighty thousand dollars over
fifty gifts mark.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
We can host, we can announce, That's what I meant
to say. We can announce, right, I think the announcers
really get much of this shot announcers. But we can
go and presenter. That's what I'm saying. Oh presenters.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, here are two people you've never heard of,
ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Two people you've never heard of. We're giving them their
big break.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, it is wild that many of these people who
get this stuff. It's all very consistent with the theme
super rich people get a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
They don't need to pay for it, right, and they
could buy it themselves so easily.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
But fame gets them a lot. So it's really a
win win. That is to say, you get millions for
being in Oppenheimer and then you get the gift bag
on side, And as Debrah says, not only can you
buy yourself, it's kind of a rounding error. I mean,
I know, to us it's like a lot of money,
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars insane. But the reality
(21:53):
is that you know it's compared to the net worth
of most of these people.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Is that all you got? No, h Here we go.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
A five piece luxury gift set from Miyage Skincare that's
five hundred and fifteen dollars. A ten thousand dollars dollars
micro needling treatment from Sinosure designed to tighten and revitalize.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Boy, I could use a weekend of that tightening and
revitalizing stuff. A seven day retreat at the Golden Door, California,
which is a transformative and rejuvenating experience. A lot of tightening, revitalizing,
transforming and rejuvenating in this bag.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think that's what they like.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I see it's there value to twenty four thousand dollars. Wow,
this is a cool one like this. This is what
I'd like. I really want. I want to throw a
party and I want something like this there. But it's
twenty five thousand dollars. It's a live show, oh from
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mentalist Carl Chrisman. Carl Christman apparently combines magic, mind reading, hypnosis,
and comedy. It's a twenty five thousand dollars value. And
you can build the live show around a birthday party
or whatever you want. And in honor of the Rubik's
Cube fiftieth anniversary, a retro themed version of the Rubik's
(23:23):
Cube featuring the original logo and color scheme that believe
it or not is the most affordable only.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Fifteen dollars nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Bradley Cooper, Emma Stone, Colman Domingo, Lily Gladstone, and that Benning,
all of them will get access to these things and
these bags. That is just the beginning. There is so
much offered and continues to be offered. They actually have
gifting suitees that go on for a couple of weeks
before the event.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So I'm telling you about one bag.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
There are these gifting suite set up and the stars
and others associated with the Academy and with the festivities.
They may be even directors and cinematographers, et cetera. They're
set loose in all of this and they kind of
go on a buying spree, only they don't have to
pay for anything.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So feel so deprived. It's it's not the business. We've
chosen los not the business. There are other rewards here.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Well, you get to say hide to Petros and money
in the hallway. I mean, you can't put a price
tag on these things. It's access, that's what we get.
Maybe Ryan Seacrest you'll see coming in to do his show.
When we come back. You will indulge me. You must
hear the cameos sent to me by George Santos. Yes,
(24:47):
it was sent to me for my birthday. We'll do
it next. And is Conway coming in also?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I guess Conway comes through here as well as the
closer to the four o'clock hour that's a highlight. That's light.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, that's right. He can tell you story his dad
and the Carol Burnet Show. I love those stories.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Actually, I don't know if they quite measure up to
the give back, but there's something anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's a John cole Belt show. Mark Thompson sitting in
for John on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
You're listening to John Coebelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
John I thinks back on Monday, taking the three day weekend.
Good for him. It's a really cool Conway ahead. We
have much going on. Conry will get to a lot
of it. We've talked about a bunch of stuff today,
talked about the Katie Porter suggestion that the Senate election
was rigged, got into a bit of the State of
(25:42):
the Union, the State of the Union response earlier, and
we did touch on the fact that George Santos was
at the State of the Union address, which is kind
of weird. As you know, he was removed apparently he's
meaning he's removed from office. He was not removed from
the chambers. Last night.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He was there.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I saw him sitting next to Matt Gates. He's a
likable fellow. He's had a little issue with truth and
concocting his resume and personal history, as you know, to
the point that they removed him. I mean, he was
also removed really over as you may remember, spending a
lot of donor money on personal things like paying off
(26:24):
credit card stuff and various health and wellness treatment type thing. Anyway,
I just do remind you of his history, so you know,
between the stacks of mistruths and lies and then sort
of spending this money in these ways that are well
frankly illegal. He was tossed. But he is, as I say,
(26:46):
kind of a likable figure. And he apparently has made
more money through this app cameo than he's ever made
in his life. He said that, like he's having the
biggest year of inme in his life as a result
of these cameos. They've stacked up like crazy, these requests
(27:06):
for him to send greetings of one sort or another
to people all around the world. And he's in a
as you know, lawsuit with Jimmy Kimmel who asked him
to do a bunch of cameos and he thought they
were one thing, and then Jimmy used them on his show.
For my birthday, Courtney got him to do a cameo
(27:27):
for me, and I had no idea that this was happening,
and he must have.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
And this is the only last thing. I don't go
to play it for you.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
The only last thing I'm going to say is it
was by no means clear apparently that he was going
to do it because he was kind of wrapping up
for the year and on my birthday is the day
after Christmas, and he just like he was going on
vacation and he didn't want to up do any more cameos.
So he does this in a car. Clearly it was
in a cab or something, but he does the cameo.
(28:00):
And here's what it sounds like, hay.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Mark, it's Stuart Santos.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Here.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
A lot of people are telling me you're a liar
because you say you're one age, but you look so
much younger. So happy birthday, and what's a little lie
between friends?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I mean, come on, what's the worst that could happen? Mark?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Courtney sends this message with all the love in the world,
Happy birthday.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's just the greatest.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I mean, I love it, but I mean it's the
last part that I love the most, Right, what's a
little lie among friends or between friends? And what's the
worst that could happen? I just love this is the
guy who is tossed from Congress. It's brilliant. I mean,
it's just the worst that could happen. Yeah, I mean,
it just is the best. I commend her for the
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writing and commend her for the execution.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I mean, and what's a little lie between friends? Yeah,
I mean, come on, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
So he was back last night, and the word out
of George Santo is just because he's become one of
these curious stories in American politics. He's saying he's going
to run for office again. This is a guy who
was hounded by media, you may remember. I mean, he
(29:24):
couldn't walk down the halls of Congress without this gaggle
of media around him hounding about various lies he'd told, mistruths.
He was expelled from Congress again, reminding you the House
Ethics Committee said that he'd exploited his position for financial gain.
He's running for office again. He announced his plans after
(29:48):
the State of the Union address last night. He's saying,
and this is a quote, I left office arbitrarily in December.
Now even that's that's not true. He was ousted by
his colleagues. You didn't leave office arbitrarily. You were tossed
out of office, he says this. And this is a
(30:12):
brilliant play in America to say this kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
After a lot of prayer and conversation with my friends
and family. Again mentioned prayer, you mentioned friends, and most
of all, you mentioned family. After a lot of prayer
and conversation with my friends and family, I've made a
very important decision that will shake things up.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Again.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Continuing from George Santos, tonight, I want to announce that
I will be returning to the arena of politics and
challenging Nick. That's the guy in his district who's now
serving Nick Nick Lolota for the battle over New York one.
So he then said, on a tonight, I came to
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the State of the Union with an open mind and
heart because I believe in the great idea that is
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
And then he banged on Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
I just witnessed a weak, frail president deliver spin and
lies to the American people. From inside the chambers. So
he's he's not a Biden fan, and essentially he's now
banging the drum that New Yorkers need a real conservative.
He even uses those terms, I need New Yorkers need
(31:32):
a real conservative to represent them. And his former seat
in New York's third congressional district was won by a Democrat,
Tom Swosey in a special election, as you know, in
February once he was removed there to have a special
election there, so the.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Primary for that seat will be held in June. But
it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know, he doesn't really have a track record legislatively
to talk about, but he's playing himself as a conservative champion.
He's trying to essentially reconstitute himself as this conservative dude,
I am your conservative savior. But the New York Times
called it a notoriety tour that he went on with
(32:16):
his personalized videos on cameo. But it's pretty you know,
by the way, how much do you think one of
his cameo's costs five hundred dollars apiece? In late December,
when Courtney got me that that cameo.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Is she she she must?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I don't know where she got that money. That's a
five hundred dollars. That's that's a pretty penny for him.
I agree, that's a lot of money for.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
The it's Stuart Santos here.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I mean, that's a saying, wow, you really hit the
ball for.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Though, Come on, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, he had a.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Little bit of a brilliant cameo. Five hundred bucks, well spent,
thank you, Thank you, Courtney. Aside from that, the State
of the Union, of course, is being played on both sides.
The one side is saying that Biden hit it out
of the park, you know, never stronger. You're telling me
that this guy is, you know, this old and firm guy.
(33:17):
And the Democrats were talking about how terrific his messaging
was and how incredibly energetic and what a brilliant speech was.
He'd spoke for over well over an hour. The right
is saying, what was he on? How could he have
spoken that way? He's definitely on some kind of you know,
(33:39):
medicine that jacked him up. So you picked your interpretation,
but there it was, speaking of being jacked up on medication,
sitting down.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hey now, buddy, how are you? Tim Conway Jr.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I you and I got into it yesterday with the storm.
Oh yeah, you hated the term that I used the
eye of the store.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Well, I wouldn't have minded it one to maybe even
five times, but you said it seventeen times. The eye
of the storm is over your house, the ie the
storm is coming to you, crouch of the store. And
I said, God, I just you knew what I meant,
though no severity of the store. I hated to be
that guy, and I was that guy, but you turned
out to be that guy. I did. I did it,
and I take that. And I even said in my message,
(34:23):
I feel like a p one who's writing in about
somebody using you know, my mom used to do that.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
I hate to say that, oh, because that's really insulting, but.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
My mom used to.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
My mom used to call radio stations and correct people,
Like when I worked at Kyla Sex, she wanted me
to call God.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
I think it was Robin Arabkerry, and maybe it was
somebody else who was filling in.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Somebody was filling in and they said, oh, Orion Pictures
has just been sold, and my mom heard that.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I was driving around my mom.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And she said could you please call the station and
says it's not Orian, it's Orion, and I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
I Am not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But they were great though. I got me through the
storm yesterday. I was listening and honest to god, I
know it was a huge storm.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, you would app you're going to you know, you know,
if you're in but a park, it's going to get
you in eleven minutes. I mean a big cell, it's
gonna come alone much right, It's very impressive. That's right, man.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
It was an unbelievable storm and it all started with
perfect timing. It started at three point fifty nine pm.
Oh yeah, it was when it really hit. They had emerged,
They had eas come on and warn everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
You had hail and thunder, lightning, wind. It was crazy
and now look at it today, there's nothing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
It is crazy. So let me ask you as a
weather guy.
Speaker 8 (35:36):
Yes, when we have something like that's that ferocious, you know,
like a hurricane or a tornado, it takes all that
energy with it. So is it typically very clear afterwards
a big storm.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Like that, Well, we can generally you have more stable
conditions in behind a system like that. So if it's
a frontal system.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Right, and is that what we had yesterday?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I really don't know. I didn't look, but if it is,
I'm guessing it was that. The kind of weather we
had yesterday is typical of instability in the atmosphere. So
you get right, that's what causes that rapid development, vertical development,
and that's what creates thunderstorms. So generally behind that, I mean,
if it's a weather front, you'll have much more stable conditions.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
And that's the kind of weather that we have today.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
I was listening to Dallas Rains, who is not as
good with weather like you are. Yeah, but he said,
the updraft into the very cold atmosphere is what creates
that hail.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well, what essentially did he get that right? The water particles, Yes,
he's mostly right about that. The water particles are kicked
back up, and as they're kicked back up, each time,
they get bigger and bigger, and they start to freeze, right,
little bits of ice form around them, and then they
get too heavy.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
And they drop out of the cloud. What happens, You've
got it.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
But I can't believe that the clouds are able to
produce hail the size of like softballs.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's wild.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I mean when think about that, with these clouds that
go all the way up to thirty five thousand feet,
there's tremendous vertical motion. It's violent in those clouds, you know,
and that's what causes it up and down and up
and down.
Speaker 8 (37:03):
I know you're gonna think that I'm bsing you.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'm not.
Speaker 8 (37:07):
I think the reason why the valley got all that
crazy weather way too many SUVs. Is that possible.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't see the connections.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
There's more families that live in the valley with the SUVs,
and they drive around these SUV's and that's where the
storm went.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Fu.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
You're gonna drive an suv, I'm gonna I'm gonna rain
on your parade, bub.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think that's what.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Happened, Mark Conway. More theories like that is what you need, Okay.
I was so sorry to see Steve Lawrence passed away.
I know it's not horrible because I last time I
saw him was that your Dad's memorials.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
You know, nobody in the world, and I can say
this because that's a fact, Jack, Nobody made my dad
laugh harder than Steve Laurin.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
There's a great clip that you've I reposted it. I
loved it that much, the one you posted on social
media when they were playing, when they are three, them
were sitting in a booth.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
There's nobody that made my dad laugh more than Steve
la Carman, Conway and that's right, man, that's a great clip.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Great clip. Hey, we have Adam Carolla coming on today.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Alex Michael sim Yeah, and we got to clear up
I said something wrong about Deborah Mark yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I got to clear that up.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Wow, there's a lot to do official apology. Yeah, all right,
well Conway's next. Thanks all.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Can you stick around for three hours?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I would, except I got to do Maya show That
Thompson Show on YouTube god KFI AM six forty live
Ellenware on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
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