August 25, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (08/25) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the latest regarding the Menendez Brothers having their parole denied. There is a state senate bill to get rid of ultra-processed foods in schools. Public school needs a reformation. Schools are back in session earlier than ever before.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:07):
If John coblt on the John Coblt Show, I'll be
in all week. So Lyle Menendez met the same fate
Friday night as his brother Eric Menendez brothers today remain
at prison. Late Friday night, the Parole Board, after a
lengthy delay, issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric,
will not get parole. They can try again in three years.
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ABC News analyst Alex Stone joins us, was it oversold
as a possibility?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Do you think that they thought there was a chance.
Did you think there was a chance. It seemed like
there was some.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Drama, but the decision was pretty flat and absolute.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, hey lo, So yeah, you remember Mark Garrigos, the
attorney for the Menendez brothers and so many others, that
he had said last year they're gonna be out by
Thanksgiving and then said, well now they'll be out by
Christmas and the New Year's and last week he was
saying this Thanksgiving, of course he's going to be more optimistic,
and that he is pushing and trying to swing it
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his way and what he's putting out there publicly and
to the media. But it's uncommon for people, especially in
murder cases, the first go around to get parole.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But this had been.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Such a ground swell of people after Netflix and on
Instagram and everything else that the public was so pushing
for this. It seemed like that there was kind of this, well,
it's just automatically going to happen, but the parole commissioners
don't work that way, and they looked at it like
you would any inmate who was up for parole on
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who's in prison for murder and up for parole, and
that they had a lot of issues with what went on. So, yeah,
it was late Friday night that that Lyle got his ruling,
late in terms of what we were expecting. It was
in the eight o'clock hour, right around eight o'clock. There
was a big delay there because we got audio during
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the hearing of Eric Menendez's hearing and we aired it
and it was legally obtained. It was given to us
in a public records request and the prison system accidentally
released it while the hearing was going on for Lyle Menendez,
and that made the Menendez brothers attorneys quite angry, saying
that that was going to manipulate the ruling. I don't
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know how I was going to manipulate the ruling, being
the commissioners weren't paying attention to TBC News. They shouldn't
have been at least, and they should have been paying
attention to what they were doing. And it was audio
from Eric's hearing that had already been ruled upon the
day before, and not Lyles. But nonetheless, there was this
several hour period where we didn't know if they were
just going to cancel everything and say we're doing this
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again in the coming weeks and days, but they ended
up going forward and then after a lengthy delay, decided
to do it. But we do have the audio from
Eric Menendez's hearing, and let me just play for you.
Because we didn't think we're going to get audio. We
were told we were not, and then it got delivered
to us, the commissioner telling Eric this is the reason
why he's not getting out.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I would have to say, looking at your record, that
it is not only replete with violations, but they're very
diverse in nature. In other words, you have violence, you
have manipulation, you have misuse of things, you have criminal acts,
you have substance abuse. I mean, there's a lot of
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different things that you've done over the years while you've
been incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And a lot of this came down to illegal cell
phones that the two brothers have had in prison. And
look every inmate, especially those life without parole which they
were before they were given the option and the ability
to go for parole, that everybody's got cell phones. But
in California, that's scene is a very big deal because one,
you're breaking the rules inside prison, so then would you
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break the laws when you get out. But two cell
phones are how gangs communicate in prison and order things
and hits and drug movement whatnot. So the system sees
it as very serious. And Eric Menendez has tried to
explain why he had illegal cel phones into twenty twenty
five while he was trying to be perfect and show
that he should be able to get out.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I really became addicted to this, to the phones, and said,
you're doing life without This is not really harming.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Anyone, is what I told myself.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
My denial patterns were strong, minimizing, rationalizing, justifying, blaming my circumstances,
saying that everyone else did it. And lou Lyle talked
about how he saw the abuse that he says his
dad and acted upon them as a sign that his
dad loved him, and that that was what he thought
love was, and that when his dad started abusing Eric
that he felt like his dad loved him less and
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was loving Eric more. But they did talk quite a
bit about that abuse. But Eric admitted that even though
he had fantasized about his dad being dead and they
thought the only way out was killing him, that this
was not self defense. You remember, over and over again,
the argument has been, well, this was self defense. They
had to get away from the abuse, but it wasn't
in that moment that their life was in danger, which is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ethan Achman.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The current DA has said this was not self defense,
and for really the first time, Eric admitted it was not.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Was there any part of this that you believe was
self defense?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Noah, No, there was no.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Imminent I mean, I get it if he's pounding coming
through your door.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And Eric also said there was no justification for the murders.
So all of this came to the board said know
that they are still a danger to society, that they
have a number of violations in prison, Mark Garrigos is
saying this was an unjust parole hearing and he wants
it overturned and he's going to appeel it. Number of
other routes they want the governor to give them clemency.
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Nothing indicating Newsom is going to do that, being that
if he runs for president, even though he says he's
not going to, does he want to be the governor.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That overruled the parole board.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That found them to be a threat to society and
led them an end to his brothers out And no
indication he's going to do that, But Gerigos says he's
very angry about this whole thing and that it was unjust.
No doubt, based on the audio getting out that we aired,
is ASO probably going to be something that they will
bring up because it kind of derailed the hearing for
a little while. But nonetheless they stay and in three
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years they can try again with good behavior, could be
more like eighteen months, but they stay in prison for now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
As people hear about the story for the first time
and learn the history of it, it is certainly fascinating.
It is such an la fascinating story. But what strikes
me is the indictment on the system right, that Eric
was able to get involved in so many shenanigans that
led to the behavioral concerns that the pro board had
is and I know the pro board is not responsible
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for what goes on in the prison, but with your
reporting and some of the other reportings, you would think
that somebody would say, Hey, why, I thought, if cell
phone's not allowed, why is.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Everybody have a cell phone?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then how is Eric in trouble for having a
cell phone when obviously the prison is so loosey goosey,
it's almost like a Netflix prison series.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Going back to kind of what was out there about
them and everything that because of Netflix and because of
what the attorneys for the Menendez brothers were putting out
there that yeah, the Menendez brothers have done a lot
of good things in prison and worked with different groups
and hospice and painting and whatnot. But that was kind
of the image that became the TikTok image of these
great men, and the Parole Board was able to bring
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it back to no, Look, they've done tax fraud in prison,
and they've had cell phones, and there's been violence in
their past. And going back to the original crime of
look how brutal this was. And then Lyle went back
in and shot his mom in the face when she
wasn't fully dead yet and shot her one more time.
So they brought all of that up in this. But yeah,
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the prison system in California is so big, there are
a number of ways cell phones and other things can
get in. It can get in from visitors, from gangs
that somehow get them in, I mean drones dropping things off,
and really employees in the prisons that because there are
so many employees, there are some who will give in
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to the opportunity to make money or something else get
favors of some kind by bringing things in that there
are a number of different avenues and they try to
crack down on it. The system did a big search
of cells a couple of weeks ago that we got
emails on that they were going to shut everything down
in many of the prisons and do a big search
for contraband. But still it finds ways in there, and
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it is pretty common for specialty life inmates to get
a cell phone and do what you know, they can
serve the internet all they want. In fact, Eric said
the reason why he got it his excuse was so
he could watch what Nathan Hawkman, what the arguments were
against him, so he could keep up on whatever. Yeah,
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to get ready for it. So he was like, well,
I just had to do homework, so you know, I
needed to know what Hawkman was going to say about me.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Aby's news. Alex Stone, thanks so much, appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It looks like we'll be revisiting maybe in eighteen months,
maybe three years, but we appreciate that. All right, when
we come back, Bor, it's targeted at ultra process food
in your kids school lunch.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And we'll give you the latest. It's all coming up next.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
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Speaker 1 (09:16):
The Assembly bill is called twelve sixty four.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
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six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week. So there
is a state Assembly member, Jesse Gabriel up in San
Fernando Valley, introduced legislation to phase out ultra process food
from the school lunches. Now, usually I'm a small government guy.
I don't want government forcing things to happen. But public
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school lunches are a function of government. And if we've
learned anything over the last couple of years, we had
certainly learned that these ultra processed foods are really bad.
View Like, it's not just wow, everything in moderation, lou,
This stuff is really bad, like it is. It does
terrible things to your blood, sugar does terrible things to
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your pancreas.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's just really really bad.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you know it's bad when you actually phase it
out and go on fasts, which I've done, and then
you just like do it, what like after not having
had refined white flour in any form for even if
you just do it for a week, just watch yourself
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and manage and make sure you don't have even.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
A cracker a saltine for like a week. You will
feel your body reboot.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then if you have like a piece of white bread,
it's just it's horrible for you. And the children in
public school are eating it all day every day, like
every single thing is bad.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm not even sure the whole fruit is washed.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I've had my kids in public school since they were
in kinder and that has been the biggest thing I
can send them to school with the food that I
pack hard to find, even good food to make sandwiches with.
But we got through it. But they ultimately eat some
of the food there, and as they get older, you know,
they want to have snacks there or whatever, and it's
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just garbage. And I ate that garbage too, I guess
as a kid. But I think the garbage that it's
served at the cafeteria or that's offered in public school
now is way worse than it was when I was
a kid. And now my youngest is going just started
today in sixth grade, and my middle is a freshman,
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and my oldest started his junior year, and they're far
more health conscious than I was when I was their age.
A lot of that is because of TikTok. Now those
are fads. Being health conscious is a fad for young people,
and go the other way to like they've done pretty
much everything that trends on TikTok. Right now, what is
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trending for young people is to not have any flower
at all, any refined white flour. And it's amazing how
effective that platform is in getting everybody on the same train.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And now they're all.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Like into steak and keto and ninety three seven ground beef.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
This is what high school.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Kids are talking about with respect to health, so that
can't be bad. And now the assembly member wants to
get involved and make sure that all that junk is
phased out of the schools by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Landmark bill to phase out ultra processed foods and public
schools appears to be getting steam.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So it's picking up some momentum. You have to get
the farmers on board. And now the farmers are on board,
you have to get all the processed food companies out
of the way, because there's a lot of companies that
make a lot of money with contracts to the public schools.
But if there's one thing that has come out of
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all the attention, and by the way, this attention around
processed foods and ultra processed foods predates the Secretary.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Of Health, Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He was he has been talking about this for many,
many years. Only now is it high profile since he's
in the cabinet.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But he's not wrong. And whether it's Jillian Michaels or
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Kennedy Junior or people from the other political side of
the aisle, the one thing that doctor oz. Everybody's in
agreement that this stuff is really really bad for you
and really really bad for children.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
We're talking about getting rid of those unhealthy snacks, deserts,
and processed foods like noodles, you know, the dry noodles
for examples.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
What dry noodles. I didn't see the dry noodles at
the school lunch.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Process foods like noodles, you know, the dry noodles for example,
that would be served in the cafeterias. A Democratic Senate
assembly Manchesti Gabriel, who represents San Fernando Valley, authored this bill,
and he announced that more farmers are on board with
his bill now only have the California Fresh Fruit Association
is now supporting AB twelve sixty four, and that other
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outside groups who were opposed have now withdrawn their opposition.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
All right, so people are out of the way and
farmers are supporting it, and this assembly member is driving
the force. And I think that this will become a thing.
It will become legislation, and we'll see where it goes.
But as a small government guy, I think we have
basic obligations and one of them is to not offer
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the children poison.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And that's not hyperbole day in day out.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If it is so that most of the calories that
a young person consumes at least during the week is
on the school campus, then we owe it to them
to make sure it's not just alternatives are not just offered.
I always hear that, well, there's alternatives. Loop, No, don't
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offer the bad stuff at all. I mean, why can't
we do that in other countries.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You would be amazed.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
At the quality of food that's offered children in many
Western countries, Western Europe, in Asia. I mean, it's really
quite astounding. And I've been on this beat for quite
some time. When I worked for a member of Congress,
there was a guy and his thing, his big beef
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was cow's milk. I remember it because he called it
was the first time I ever heard it referred to
as cow's milk. It was always milk. He said, no,
it's not milk. It's cow's milk, not for humans, not
human milk, not goat's milk.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's cow's milk.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And his thing was, there's absolutely no reason to serve
cow's milk to children from kindergarten to twelfth grade every
day of the week, like no reason whatsoever except their
association and their lobby in Congress. So that was his
big fight, and it really opened my eyes as to
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what exactly is on that school lunch plate and who's
responsible for getting it there, and is the health of
the child even brought into consideration in that process. So
I'm happy to see the assembly member take aim at
this and we'll continue to follow it. Lou Penrose on
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
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six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There is an effort to phase out ultraprocessed food from
the school lunches. Schools would be required to phase out
these foods by twenty twenty eight and all vendors would
be prohibited from selling them in schools by twenty thirty two.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's a step in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Landmark bill to phase out ultra processed foods in public
school of Peers to be gaining steam.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So this is assembly Member Jesse Gabriel's legislation and I
support it. I think we need to move in this direction.
The schools aren't going away, the children aren't going away.
We need to do a better job of a lot
of things with respect to schools. But the one absolute
control we have is over the food that's presented to them,
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at least the food that is offered to them. And
if you believe the statistics, most of the food that
they eat during the week is food that is served
by the school.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So it should be healthy. There's no excuse for it
not to be.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Ultra process food to children all day, five days a week.
Terrible idea, and we don't have to be that society.
We need to do a lot with respect to the
school system. I've watched this now. As I said, i
have three boys and they've all been in school since
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kindergarten and now my oldest is a junior. So I've
watched kindergarten, first grade, second grade, I've watched the transition
in middle school. Now, I've watched the transition to high
school twice. And I've been around the school calendar a
number of times, as has my wife, and I've seen
the routine. And it's absolutely archaic that we are still
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doing this thing called summer.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Break, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So I've hear I've heard these arguments for years about
the learning loss that takes place in in like during
the summer and the reasons to not change things are
nostalgic and frankly immature.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh, come on, summer break, everybody, What are you gonna
be a scrooge?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Lou?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
How can you get rid of summer break? Lou wants
to get rid of summer recess. No, but we study
things and we learn things. If it's true that a
significant amount of learning lass takes place, particularly in elementary
school age, then why do we still do it? Like
this isn't little house on the prairie where all the
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kids have to go help the paw in the fields,
which is the reason for the long break, Like we've
moved on from Charles Ingalls, Caroline like and and Mary
and Laura and Carrie like It's those.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Are a long time ago. We don't have to still
follow that model.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
They can still be a break, but it doesn't have
to be that long, and it opens up the calendar
for longer breaks at Christmas or longer breaks in the spring.
I mean, we can modernize the way we run school.
So yeah, I think it's time we do away with
the whole idea of school ending on June twelve and
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then not coming back until Labor Day. Although here in
southern California. It starts like in August. This year was
the earliest ever. It was in the single digits of
August when my oldest went back to high school.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So we need to modernize that.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And I'll give you another one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
This has always amazed me, and this like people that
study early childhood development all one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Agree in this. We don't need twelfth grade.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
What we need is kindergarten that starts at age four,
maybe even three. But there's absolutely no reason whatsoever for
a sixteen year old adolescent to be sitting in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We should shift the whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
It should go from basically three if you really want
to be efficient. And what all the scientists tell us
about early childhood development, the development that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Takes place and the success you have.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
In helping young humans start grasping concepts, the success you
have at.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Three year old, three years old, four years old, and
five years old.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
If that success isn't achieved by the time they're five,
it's much harder for effectively the remainder of their school career.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And nobody disputes this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like people will argue about the cultural effectiveness or the cost.
But if money was no object and everybody was willing
to do what was absolutely best for the children and
our society, then certainly education, organized education should start at
four and maybe even three. Now we can get into
all kinds of arguments over whether the children are too young,
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and who's responsible and who's going to pay for all this,
But the easiest way to do it is.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
To shift it all down.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I've conducted this experiment when I've gone out to
talk to schools.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I used to go and talk with.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Classes in Advanced Placement classes AP classes, and I remember
asking them, everybody in the class, I would say, if
you're in twelfth grade, raise your hand. I said, if
I if you could complete the course the minimum course
work requirement of the twelfth grade, because I believe twelfth
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grade is a complete waste of time.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
More problems come from twelfth grade, then learning takes place.
There's more truancy, there's more bullying because these are young
adults and they need to be in a much different place,
and certainly not in.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
A building with fourteen year olds or thirteen year olds.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So I said, if you could complete the minimum requirements
to participate in twelfth grade, which is pretty much nothing.
And in exchange, I give you in cash what the
state gives your school for you being in twelfth grade,
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which tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
How many of you would take that deal?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And like almost every hand goes out when I tell
them how much money the state is giving the school
for you to be there, Like, instead of giving it
to the school for them being there, have them complete
in the eleventh grade everything that's required them in the
twelfth grade, and hand them a check. And then I said,
all right, good for those of you at eleventh grade,
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if you could complete your entire eleventh grade minimum requirements
and twelfth grade requirements, I'll give you double both.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Show a hands. How many would be interested in taking
that program? About half the kids say, I'll get it
a shot. That's the way we have to start thinking
right now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Teachers and teachers' unions will go nuts at that because
it'll eliminate tens of thousands of jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But we need to start modernizing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, this effort to get the junk out of
the school lunch program is going to create a bunch
of vendors who are to be unhappy that sell a
bunch of cookies and terrible pizza. But we're gonna have
to start phasing it out, and that's what it's gonna require.
So twenty twenty eight is coming, twenty thirty two is coming.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well, we have the schools that reflect the modern ideas and.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
The tested best practices ready for them by then it
remains up to us.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But that's a direction I think we should be looking
at going.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
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Speaker 1 (24:34):
This week, Everybody's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Chris Merrill in from O'Kelly coblt all out all this week?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My goodness, who's in charge of that scheduling? But school
is now back for pretty much everybody in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't think there's any school district that waits for
Labor Day any longer it was explained to me this way.
Then this seems particularly that there is something that goes on,
some testing that goes on that's nationwide in late September,
and for whatever reason, California doesn't have enough influence over
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moving that test date later in the year, and the
learning loss that takes place over the summer is so
significant that they.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Score poorly.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The children score poorly when they take that test in
late September, which is some kind of national grading, and
so they wanted to start the school year earlier so
that that learning loss is caught up by the time
for that late September date.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I don't know if that's true or not. That might
just be an old wives tale or some kind of
urban legend.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
All I know is that everybody's going back to school
earlier and earlier, and it doesn't jive for all the grades,
which proves my point that those that are in charge
of scheduling school for middle school, elementary school, kindergarten TK
in high school, those schedules are designed by people without jobs.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It has to be some range rover Mom and yoga
pants is in charge of all this.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But nevertheless, the schools are on now all back, so
traffic patterns are beginning to change. I think I think
it's great to have order again. It's been an interesting
experience this summer having a person that drives, first time
we had summer, and a driving child that will change
everything in your house. And now that the two brothers
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are both going to the same school, he drives his
younger brother who is now a freshman, so it changes
the entire perspective.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And my wife and I at this point are just
hanging on.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But the schools are so antiquated in the way they
are set up, and we still have these long summer breaks,
and I'm a huge fan of not just modernizing the
way the foods are distributed to them. You know what's
amazing is we still serve junk in the school lunch program.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But the school lunch program takes Apple pay.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Like they were able to figure out how to charge
my card, but they can't figure out how to get healthy,
nutritious options on the menu. And I mentioned earlier there
was this effort in Washington, DC for a short period
of time. I knew it wasn't going to get anywhere,
and frankly, the people that were behind it knew it
was uphill to try and get cow's milk off the
(27:30):
menu because this doctor really believed that while a small
amount of cow's milk, just like a small amount of
goat's milk, is not going to hurt anybody, having cow's
milk every day, five days a week from kindergarten to
twelfth grade, and that's what it served, right, is really
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really bad. And I remember him making the case that
you have to understand the people that are involved in
these kinds of contracts, and dairy Association pretty big as
a lobbying strength on Capitol Hill, and so they're not
going to let you make the case that maybe water
would be a better thing to serve.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
We're now trying to modernize and as I mentioned, this
legislation out of the San Fernando Valley Assemblement Jesse Gabriel
wants to end the ultra process foods. I think it's
a good thing. I think it'll move forward. I think
it'll get some support. This is California, after all, we're
supposed to be the healthy people. Why are we serving
our kids all this junk in the public school systems.
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The other thing I think has not worked for us
is this idea that everybody gets lunch like it used
to be that if you qualified for a reduced cost
lunch and you had to qualify for it, then you
would get it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I understand there's no reason to embarrass anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
But after COVID, everybody gets lunch now, and I don't
know who's paying for that, Like that can't be cheap.
Not most people didn't qualify for reduced or no cost lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Most people, at least until my oldest was in.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Fifth grade, I had of papers lunch or make them lunch,
and then all of a sudden, it just all became free.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But the quality of the lunch went down.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The tubes I used to pick them up after school,
and there was like this bin where if you didn't
want something, you put it in the bin. They tried
to prevent you from wasting the food. And that's nice, right,
very egalitarianism. You're hungry, don't have any money, go over
to that bin and see who didn't want something, and
inevitably it would be the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The apple.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Nobody ever wants the apple, Nobody ever wants the banana.
So if you're lucky, somebody would have like some crunchies
in there, or some oriole cookies, but that would go fast,
and what was left was the only healthy thing that
is served was the things that nobody.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Wanted, and those extras of every single day. So we'll
continue to see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I know that the Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, is
pushing this in the schools. He's pushing it, in fact, in.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
The grocery stores. So there's real efforts here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
But I can tell you, as somebody that has struggled
with health my whole life, when I made the decision,
and it sounds pretty radical, but when I made the
decision to at least give it a shot and get
all refined white flour out of my diet. And you
have to do it completely, like not even a saltine cracker,
not even you know, oh, you know his hot dogs
(30:39):
today at works, So like even that hot dog butt, like,
it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Unless you completely eliminate it.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You don't have to eliminate it for the rest of
your life, but if you want to test and see
if that is part of your problem, you eliminate it
for like a week or ten days, and then you
really start to see some changes going on in every aspect.
And I'm a grown ass man, so if I can
feel changes in my skin and the way I feel
and the brain fog, imagine the impact it would have
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to young people eight, nine, ten years old trying to
concentrate in the classroom and the opposite.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Imagine the impact having a lunch that is just.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Filled with the ultra processed foods, and then sixth period
just becomes a complete fog.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And you talk to any.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Teacher that has class, especially if it's a math class
or some class that requires deep concentration, and you ask
them what the differences between your classes before lunch and
the classes after lunch. They'll be the first to tell
you that those are the hardest classes to teach, the
ones after lunch, because the kids are just numbed.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And tired from their lunch.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
So I think it's a good place to start, and
I look forward to talking with the Assembly member and
seeing how the legislation is going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Again, it would require all.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
The ultra processed foods to be phased out of California
public schools by twenty twenty eight eight, and then all
vendors will be prohibited from selling them at all by
twenty thirty two. So it's a process, but we have
to start somewhere, and I think it's a good place
to look to see where to go. Hey, it's been
great to be with you. I'll be here all week
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If John coblt on the John Coblt Show, I'll be
in all week. So Lyle Menendez met the same fate
Friday night as his brother Eric Menendez brothers today remain
at prison. Late Friday night, the Parole Board, after a
lengthy delay, issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric,
will not get parole. They can try again in three years.
(00:30):
ABC News analyst Alex Stone joins us, was it oversold
as a possibility?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Do you think that they thought there was a chance.
Did you think there was a chance. It seemed like
there was some.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Drama, but the decision was pretty flat and absolute.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, hey lo, So yeah, you remember Mark Garrigos, the
attorney for the Menendez brothers and so many others, that
he had said last year they're gonna be out by
Thanksgiving and then said, well now they'll be out by
Christmas and the New Year's and last week he was
saying this Thanksgiving, of course he's going to be more optimistic,
and that he is pushing and trying to swing it
(01:06):
his way and what he's putting out there publicly and
to the media. But it's uncommon for people, especially in
murder cases, the first go around to get parole.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But this had been.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Such a ground swell of people after Netflix and on
Instagram and everything else that the public was so pushing
for this. It seemed like that there was kind of this, well,
it's just automatically going to happen, but the parole commissioners
don't work that way, and they looked at it like
you would any inmate who was up for parole on
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who's in prison for murder and up for parole, and
that they had a lot of issues with what went on. So, yeah,
it was late Friday night that that Lyle got his ruling,
late in terms of what we were expecting. It was
in the eight o'clock hour, right around eight o'clock. There
was a big delay there because we got audio during
(01:59):
the hearing of Eric Menendez's hearing and we aired it
and it was legally obtained. It was given to us
in a public records request and the prison system accidentally
released it while the hearing was going on for Lyle Menendez,
and that made the Menendez brothers attorneys quite angry, saying
that that was going to manipulate the ruling. I don't
(02:20):
know how I was going to manipulate the ruling, being
the commissioners weren't paying attention to TBC News. They shouldn't
have been at least, and they should have been paying
attention to what they were doing. And it was audio
from Eric's hearing that had already been ruled upon the
day before, and not Lyles. But nonetheless, there was this
several hour period where we didn't know if they were
just going to cancel everything and say we're doing this
(02:41):
again in the coming weeks and days, but they ended
up going forward and then after a lengthy delay, decided
to do it. But we do have the audio from
Eric Menendez's hearing, and let me just play for you.
Because we didn't think we're going to get audio. We
were told we were not, and then it got delivered
to us, the commissioner telling Eric this is the reason
why he's not getting out.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I would have to say, looking at your record, that
it is not only replete with violations, but they're very
diverse in nature. In other words, you have violence, you
have manipulation, you have misuse of things, you have criminal acts,
you have substance abuse. I mean, there's a lot of
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different things that you've done over the years while you've
been incarcerated.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And a lot of this came down to illegal cell
phones that the two brothers have had in prison. And
look every inmate, especially those life without parole which they
were before they were given the option and the ability
to go for parole, that everybody's got cell phones. But
in California, that's scene is a very big deal because one,
you're breaking the rules inside prison, so then would you
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break the laws when you get out. But two cell
phones are how gangs communicate in prison and order things
and hits and drug movement whatnot. So the system sees
it as very serious. And Eric Menendez has tried to
explain why he had illegal cel phones into twenty twenty
five while he was trying to be perfect and show
that he should be able to get out.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I really became addicted to this, to the phones, and said,
you're doing life without This is not really harming.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Anyone, is what I told myself.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
My denial patterns were strong, minimizing, rationalizing, justifying, blaming my circumstances,
saying that everyone else did it. And lou Lyle talked
about how he saw the abuse that he says his
dad and acted upon them as a sign that his
dad loved him, and that that was what he thought
love was, and that when his dad started abusing Eric
that he felt like his dad loved him less and
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was loving Eric more. But they did talk quite a
bit about that abuse. But Eric admitted that even though
he had fantasized about his dad being dead and they
thought the only way out was killing him, that this
was not self defense. You remember, over and over again,
the argument has been, well, this was self defense. They
had to get away from the abuse, but it wasn't
in that moment that their life was in danger, which is.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ethan Achman.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The current DA has said this was not self defense,
and for really the first time, Eric admitted it was not.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Was there any part of this that you believe was
self defense?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Noah, No, there was no.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Imminent I mean, I get it if he's pounding coming
through your door.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And Eric also said there was no justification for the murders.
So all of this came to the board said know
that they are still a danger to society, that they
have a number of violations in prison, Mark Garrigos is
saying this was an unjust parole hearing and he wants
it overturned and he's going to appeel it. Number of
other routes they want the governor to give them clemency.
(05:37):
Nothing indicating Newsom is going to do that, being that
if he runs for president, even though he says he's
not going to, does he want to be the governor.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That overruled the parole board.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
That found them to be a threat to society and
led them an end to his brothers out And no
indication he's going to do that, But Gerigos says he's
very angry about this whole thing and that it was unjust.
No doubt, based on the audio getting out that we aired,
is ASO probably going to be something that they will
bring up because it kind of derailed the hearing for
a little while. But nonetheless they stay and in three
(06:07):
years they can try again with good behavior, could be
more like eighteen months, but they stay in prison for now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
As people hear about the story for the first time
and learn the history of it, it is certainly fascinating.
It is such an la fascinating story. But what strikes
me is the indictment on the system right, that Eric
was able to get involved in so many shenanigans that
led to the behavioral concerns that the pro board had
is and I know the pro board is not responsible
(06:34):
for what goes on in the prison, but with your
reporting and some of the other reportings, you would think
that somebody would say, Hey, why, I thought, if cell
phone's not allowed, why is.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Everybody have a cell phone?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then how is Eric in trouble for having a
cell phone when obviously the prison is so loosey goosey,
it's almost like a Netflix prison series.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Going back to kind of what was out there about
them and everything that because of Netflix and because of
what the attorneys for the Menendez brothers were putting out
there that yeah, the Menendez brothers have done a lot
of good things in prison and worked with different groups
and hospice and painting and whatnot. But that was kind
of the image that became the TikTok image of these
great men, and the Parole Board was able to bring
(07:19):
it back to no, Look, they've done tax fraud in prison,
and they've had cell phones, and there's been violence in
their past. And going back to the original crime of
look how brutal this was. And then Lyle went back
in and shot his mom in the face when she
wasn't fully dead yet and shot her one more time.
So they brought all of that up in this. But yeah,
(07:42):
the prison system in California is so big, there are
a number of ways cell phones and other things can
get in. It can get in from visitors, from gangs
that somehow get them in, I mean drones dropping things off,
and really employees in the prisons that because there are
so many employees, there are some who will give in
(08:03):
to the opportunity to make money or something else get
favors of some kind by bringing things in that there
are a number of different avenues and they try to
crack down on it. The system did a big search
of cells a couple of weeks ago that we got
emails on that they were going to shut everything down
in many of the prisons and do a big search
for contraband. But still it finds ways in there, and
(08:25):
it is pretty common for specialty life inmates to get
a cell phone and do what you know, they can
serve the internet all they want. In fact, Eric said
the reason why he got it his excuse was so
he could watch what Nathan Hawkman, what the arguments were
against him, so he could keep up on whatever. Yeah,
(08:45):
to get ready for it. So he was like, well,
I just had to do homework, so you know, I
needed to know what Hawkman was going to say about me.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Aby's news. Alex Stone, thanks so much, appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It looks like we'll be revisiting maybe in eighteen months,
maybe three years, but we appreciate that. All right, when
we come back, Bor, it's targeted at ultra process food
in your kids school lunch.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And we'll give you the latest. It's all coming up next.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Lou Penrose info John Coblt on the John Cobelt Show
on kf I AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The Assembly bill is called twelve sixty four.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week. So there
is a state Assembly member, Jesse Gabriel up in San
Fernando Valley, introduced legislation to phase out ultra process food
from the school lunches. Now, usually I'm a small government guy.
I don't want government forcing things to happen. But public
(09:46):
school lunches are a function of government. And if we've
learned anything over the last couple of years, we had
certainly learned that these ultra processed foods are really bad.
View Like, it's not just wow, everything in moderation, lou,
This stuff is really bad, like it is. It does
terrible things to your blood, sugar does terrible things to
(10:09):
your pancreas.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It's just really really bad.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And you know it's bad when you actually phase it
out and go on fasts, which I've done, and then
you just like do it, what like after not having
had refined white flour in any form for even if
you just do it for a week, just watch yourself
(10:33):
and manage and make sure you don't have even.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
A cracker a saltine for like a week. You will
feel your body reboot.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then if you have like a piece of white bread,
it's just it's horrible for you. And the children in
public school are eating it all day every day, like
every single thing is bad.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm not even sure the whole fruit is washed.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I've had my kids in public school since they were
in kinder and that has been the biggest thing I
can send them to school with the food that I
pack hard to find, even good food to make sandwiches with.
But we got through it. But they ultimately eat some
of the food there, and as they get older, you know,
they want to have snacks there or whatever, and it's
(11:19):
just garbage. And I ate that garbage too, I guess
as a kid. But I think the garbage that it's
served at the cafeteria or that's offered in public school
now is way worse than it was when I was
a kid. And now my youngest is going just started
today in sixth grade, and my middle is a freshman,
(11:45):
and my oldest started his junior year, and they're far
more health conscious than I was when I was their age.
A lot of that is because of TikTok. Now those
are fads. Being health conscious is a fad for young people,
and go the other way to like they've done pretty
much everything that trends on TikTok. Right now, what is
(12:06):
trending for young people is to not have any flower
at all, any refined white flour. And it's amazing how
effective that platform is in getting everybody on the same train.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
And now they're all.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Like into steak and keto and ninety three seven ground beef.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
This is what high school.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Kids are talking about with respect to health, so that
can't be bad. And now the assembly member wants to
get involved and make sure that all that junk is
phased out of the schools by twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Landmark bill to phase out ultra processed foods and public
schools appears to be getting steam.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So it's picking up some momentum. You have to get
the farmers on board. And now the farmers are on board,
you have to get all the processed food companies out
of the way, because there's a lot of companies that
make a lot of money with contracts to the public schools.
But if there's one thing that has come out of
(13:05):
all the attention, and by the way, this attention around
processed foods and ultra processed foods predates the Secretary.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Of Health, Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He was he has been talking about this for many,
many years. Only now is it high profile since he's
in the cabinet.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But he's not wrong. And whether it's Jillian Michaels or
Robert F.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Kennedy Junior or people from the other political side of
the aisle, the one thing that doctor oz. Everybody's in
agreement that this stuff is really really bad for you
and really really bad for children.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
We're talking about getting rid of those unhealthy snacks, deserts,
and processed foods like noodles, you know, the dry noodles
for examples.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
What dry noodles. I didn't see the dry noodles at
the school lunch.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Process foods like noodles, you know, the dry noodles for example,
that would be served in the cafeterias. A Democratic Senate
assembly Manchesti Gabriel, who represents San Fernando Valley, authored this bill,
and he announced that more farmers are on board with
his bill now only have the California Fresh Fruit Association
is now supporting AB twelve sixty four, and that other
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outside groups who were opposed have now withdrawn their opposition.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
All right, so people are out of the way and
farmers are supporting it, and this assembly member is driving
the force. And I think that this will become a thing.
It will become legislation, and we'll see where it goes.
But as a small government guy, I think we have
basic obligations and one of them is to not offer
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the children poison.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And that's not hyperbole day in day out.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If it is so that most of the calories that
a young person consumes at least during the week is
on the school campus, then we owe it to them
to make sure it's not just alternatives are not just offered.
I always hear that, well, there's alternatives. Loop, No, don't
(15:09):
offer the bad stuff at all. I mean, why can't
we do that in other countries.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
You would be amazed.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
At the quality of food that's offered children in many
Western countries, Western Europe, in Asia. I mean, it's really
quite astounding. And I've been on this beat for quite
some time. When I worked for a member of Congress,
there was a guy and his thing, his big beef
(15:41):
was cow's milk. I remember it because he called it
was the first time I ever heard it referred to
as cow's milk. It was always milk. He said, no,
it's not milk. It's cow's milk, not for humans, not
human milk, not goat's milk.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's cow's milk.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And his thing was, there's absolutely no reason to serve
cow's milk to children from kindergarten to twelfth grade every
day of the week, like no reason whatsoever except their
association and their lobby in Congress. So that was his
big fight, and it really opened my eyes as to
(16:15):
what exactly is on that school lunch plate and who's
responsible for getting it there, and is the health of
the child even brought into consideration in that process. So
I'm happy to see the assembly member take aim at
this and we'll continue to follow it. Lou Penrose on
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There is an effort to phase out ultraprocessed food from
the school lunches. Schools would be required to phase out
these foods by twenty twenty eight and all vendors would
be prohibited from selling them in schools by twenty thirty two.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's a step in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Landmark bill to phase out ultra processed foods in public
school of Peers to be gaining steam.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So this is assembly Member Jesse Gabriel's legislation and I
support it. I think we need to move in this direction.
The schools aren't going away, the children aren't going away.
We need to do a better job of a lot
of things with respect to schools. But the one absolute
control we have is over the food that's presented to them,
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at least the food that is offered to them. And
if you believe the statistics, most of the food that
they eat during the week is food that is served
by the school.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
So it should be healthy. There's no excuse for it
not to be.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Ultra process food to children all day, five days a week.
Terrible idea, and we don't have to be that society.
We need to do a lot with respect to the
school system. I've watched this now. As I said, i
have three boys and they've all been in school since
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kindergarten and now my oldest is a junior. So I've
watched kindergarten, first grade, second grade, I've watched the transition
in middle school. Now, I've watched the transition to high
school twice. And I've been around the school calendar a
number of times, as has my wife, and I've seen
the routine. And it's absolutely archaic that we are still
(18:22):
doing this thing called summer.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Break, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So I've hear I've heard these arguments for years about
the learning loss that takes place in in like during
the summer and the reasons to not change things are
nostalgic and frankly immature.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh, come on, summer break, everybody, What are you gonna
be a scrooge?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Lou?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
How can you get rid of summer break? Lou wants
to get rid of summer recess. No, but we study
things and we learn things. If it's true that a
significant amount of learning lass takes place, particularly in elementary
school age, then why do we still do it? Like
this isn't little house on the prairie where all the
(19:08):
kids have to go help the paw in the fields,
which is the reason for the long break, Like we've
moved on from Charles Ingalls, Caroline like and and Mary
and Laura and Carrie like It's those.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Are a long time ago. We don't have to still
follow that model.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
They can still be a break, but it doesn't have
to be that long, and it opens up the calendar
for longer breaks at Christmas or longer breaks in the spring.
I mean, we can modernize the way we run school.
So yeah, I think it's time we do away with
the whole idea of school ending on June twelve and
(19:51):
then not coming back until Labor Day. Although here in
southern California. It starts like in August. This year was
the earliest ever. It was in the single digits of
August when my oldest went back to high school.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So we need to modernize that.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And I'll give you another one.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
This has always amazed me, and this like people that
study early childhood development all one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Agree in this. We don't need twelfth grade.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
What we need is kindergarten that starts at age four,
maybe even three. But there's absolutely no reason whatsoever for
a sixteen year old adolescent to be sitting in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
We should shift the whole thing down.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
It should go from basically three if you really want
to be efficient. And what all the scientists tell us
about early childhood development, the development that.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Takes place and the success you have.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
In helping young humans start grasping concepts, the success you
have at.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Three year old, three years old, four years old, and
five years old.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
If that success isn't achieved by the time they're five,
it's much harder for effectively the remainder of their school career.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
And nobody disputes this.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like people will argue about the cultural effectiveness or the cost.
But if money was no object and everybody was willing
to do what was absolutely best for the children and
our society, then certainly education, organized education should start at
four and maybe even three. Now we can get into
all kinds of arguments over whether the children are too young,
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and who's responsible and who's going to pay for all this,
But the easiest way to do it is.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
To shift it all down.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And I've conducted this experiment when I've gone out to
talk to schools.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I used to go and talk with.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Classes in Advanced Placement classes AP classes, and I remember
asking them, everybody in the class, I would say, if
you're in twelfth grade, raise your hand. I said, if
I if you could complete the course the minimum course
work requirement of the twelfth grade, because I believe twelfth
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grade is a complete waste of time.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
More problems come from twelfth grade, then learning takes place.
There's more truancy, there's more bullying because these are young
adults and they need to be in a much different place,
and certainly not in.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
A building with fourteen year olds or thirteen year olds.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
So I said, if you could complete the minimum requirements
to participate in twelfth grade, which is pretty much nothing.
And in exchange, I give you in cash what the
state gives your school for you being in twelfth grade,
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which tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
How many of you would take that deal?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
And like almost every hand goes out when I tell
them how much money the state is giving the school
for you to be there, Like, instead of giving it
to the school for them being there, have them complete
in the eleventh grade everything that's required them in the
twelfth grade, and hand them a check. And then I said,
all right, good for those of you at eleventh grade,
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if you could complete your entire eleventh grade minimum requirements
and twelfth grade requirements, I'll give you double both.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Show a hands. How many would be interested in taking
that program? About half the kids say, I'll get it
a shot. That's the way we have to start thinking
right now.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Teachers and teachers' unions will go nuts at that because
it'll eliminate tens of thousands of jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But we need to start modernizing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean, this effort to get the junk out of
the school lunch program is going to create a bunch
of vendors who are to be unhappy that sell a
bunch of cookies and terrible pizza. But we're gonna have
to start phasing it out, and that's what it's gonna require.
So twenty twenty eight is coming, twenty thirty two is coming.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well, we have the schools that reflect the modern ideas and.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
The tested best practices ready for them by then it
remains up to us.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
But that's a direction I think we should be looking
at going.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
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Speaker 1 (24:34):
This week, Everybody's on vacation.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Chris Merrill in from O'Kelly coblt all out all this week?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
My goodness, who's in charge of that scheduling? But school
is now back for pretty much everybody in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't think there's any school district that waits for
Labor Day any longer it was explained to me this way.
Then this seems particularly that there is something that goes on,
some testing that goes on that's nationwide in late September,
and for whatever reason, California doesn't have enough influence over
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moving that test date later in the year, and the
learning loss that takes place over the summer is so
significant that they.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Score poorly.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The children score poorly when they take that test in
late September, which is some kind of national grading, and
so they wanted to start the school year earlier so
that that learning loss is caught up by the time
for that late September date.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I don't know if that's true or not. That might
just be an old wives tale or some kind of
urban legend.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
All I know is that everybody's going back to school
earlier and earlier, and it doesn't jive for all the grades,
which proves my point that those that are in charge
of scheduling school for middle school, elementary school, kindergarten TK
in high school, those schedules are designed by people without jobs.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It has to be some range rover Mom and yoga
pants is in charge of all this.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
But nevertheless, the schools are on now all back, so
traffic patterns are beginning to change. I think I think
it's great to have order again. It's been an interesting
experience this summer having a person that drives, first time
we had summer, and a driving child that will change
everything in your house. And now that the two brothers
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are both going to the same school, he drives his
younger brother who is now a freshman, so it changes
the entire perspective.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And my wife and I at this point are just
hanging on.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But the schools are so antiquated in the way they
are set up, and we still have these long summer breaks,
and I'm a huge fan of not just modernizing the
way the foods are distributed to them. You know what's
amazing is we still serve junk in the school lunch program.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
But the school lunch program takes Apple pay.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Like they were able to figure out how to charge
my card, but they can't figure out how to get healthy,
nutritious options on the menu. And I mentioned earlier there
was this effort in Washington, DC for a short period
of time. I knew it wasn't going to get anywhere,
and frankly, the people that were behind it knew it
was uphill to try and get cow's milk off the
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menu because this doctor really believed that while a small
amount of cow's milk, just like a small amount of
goat's milk, is not going to hurt anybody, having cow's
milk every day, five days a week from kindergarten to
twelfth grade, and that's what it served, right, is really
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really bad. And I remember him making the case that
you have to understand the people that are involved in
these kinds of contracts, and dairy Association pretty big as
a lobbying strength on Capitol Hill, and so they're not
going to let you make the case that maybe water
would be a better thing to serve.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
So that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
We're now trying to modernize and as I mentioned, this
legislation out of the San Fernando Valley Assemblement Jesse Gabriel
wants to end the ultra process foods. I think it's
a good thing. I think it'll move forward. I think
it'll get some support. This is California, after all, we're
supposed to be the healthy people. Why are we serving
our kids all this junk in the public school systems.
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The other thing I think has not worked for us
is this idea that everybody gets lunch like it used
to be that if you qualified for a reduced cost
lunch and you had to qualify for it, then you
would get it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I understand there's no reason to embarrass anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
But after COVID, everybody gets lunch now, and I don't
know who's paying for that, Like that can't be cheap.
Not most people didn't qualify for reduced or no cost lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Most people, at least until my oldest was in.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Fifth grade, I had of papers lunch or make them lunch,
and then all of a sudden, it just all became free.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But the quality of the lunch went down.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
The tubes I used to pick them up after school,
and there was like this bin where if you didn't
want something, you put it in the bin. They tried
to prevent you from wasting the food. And that's nice, right,
very egalitarianism. You're hungry, don't have any money, go over
to that bin and see who didn't want something, and
inevitably it would be the same stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
The apple.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Nobody ever wants the apple, Nobody ever wants the banana.
So if you're lucky, somebody would have like some crunchies
in there, or some oriole cookies, but that would go fast,
and what was left was the only healthy thing that
is served was the things that nobody.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Wanted, and those extras of every single day. So we'll
continue to see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I know that the Secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, is
pushing this in the schools. He's pushing it, in fact, in.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
The grocery stores. So there's real efforts here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
But I can tell you, as somebody that has struggled
with health my whole life, when I made the decision,
and it sounds pretty radical, but when I made the
decision to at least give it a shot and get
all refined white flour out of my diet. And you
have to do it completely, like not even a saltine cracker,
not even you know, oh, you know his hot dogs
(30:39):
today at works, So like even that hot dog butt, like,
it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Unless you completely eliminate it.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You don't have to eliminate it for the rest of
your life, but if you want to test and see
if that is part of your problem, you eliminate it
for like a week or ten days, and then you
really start to see some changes going on in every aspect.
And I'm a grown ass man, so if I can
feel changes in my skin and the way I feel
and the brain fog, imagine the impact it would have
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to young people eight, nine, ten years old trying to
concentrate in the classroom and the opposite.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Imagine the impact having a lunch that is just.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Filled with the ultra processed foods, and then sixth period
just becomes a complete fog.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And you talk to any.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Teacher that has class, especially if it's a math class
or some class that requires deep concentration, and you ask
them what the differences between your classes before lunch and
the classes after lunch. They'll be the first to tell
you that those are the hardest classes to teach, the
ones after lunch, because the kids are just numbed.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And tired from their lunch.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
So I think it's a good place to start, and
I look forward to talking with the Assembly member and
seeing how the legislation is going forward.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Again, it would require all.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
The ultra processed foods to be phased out of California
public schools by twenty twenty eight eight, and then all
vendors will be prohibited from selling them at all by
twenty thirty two. So it's a process, but we have
to start somewhere, and I think it's a good place
to look to see where to go. Hey, it's been
great to be with you. I'll be here all week
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