August 28, 2025 • 35 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (08/28) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Brad Garrett comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with the investigation into the shooting yesterday at a Minnesota Catholic school. Mayor Karen Bass wants more police at Catholic schools. There was some confusion about the shooter's gender yesterday on CNN. Newsom is getting tough on crime.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt this week.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
More news on the shooter from yesterday, good news and
not so good news. The good news is the twenty
individuals that were injured are all set to recover. That
includes the fifteen of those twenty who are children and
yesterday were in critical condition, children as young as six.
But the reports at of Minneapolis and the area hospitals
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is everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Will recover but will be hurting. Nothing brings back the
death of the eight year old and the ten year old.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The bad news is we have learned more about the
shooter and none of it helps us understand a motive.
ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins us. Brad,
thanks for spending some time with us. The FBI is
digging through what appears to be like pages and pages
of notes and descriptions and drawings and illustrations.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What do we have so far?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So you have to look at mass shooters that you
sort of fit this particular shooter's profile, and I'll tell
you most of the things I've read about him are
reviewed fit many other mass shootings that I've looked at, investigated,
et cetera. And it is an obsession, and obsessions drive
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people into great detail. In this case, it's all dark.
It's anger, it's rage, it's calling you know, every sort
of group that you can think of, anti Black, anti Muslim.
It goes on and on his sort of level of
hatred of so many individuals. But there's for him, there's
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all a purpose in doing that, because he's trying to
come up with enough energy and enough I guess gumption
to go and commit what he did yesterday. And something
triggered him. I don't know what it was, maybe school
starting because he was a student at that school and
his mother used to work there. He would know, you
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know approximately and it may well be published when the
kids would be in the church itself, and that's when
he hit it. Apparently he tried to get in and
they had locked the doors. So this conversation would even
be worse that you and I are having today if
in fact he did all that shooting, if he had
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done it inside the church. So I mean, this is
what you've got with him, And he was on a mission.
He knew he was going to die. Apparently he didn't
care about that. He just wanted to go out with
and so to speak at a blaze of glory and
then have his YouTube stuff published after he's dead again
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just sort of you know, it's a power thing, right,
we're talking about him today who've never even heard of
him forty eight hours ago. So that's what a lot
of this is. It's fame when it boils right down
to it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So when he mentioned siblings in some of his statements,
some of his writings, so there were siblings, we haven't
heard from them. From what I understand, the Minneapolis p
D have not been able successful, not been successful in
speaking with the mother. Certainly somebody in the family would
have noticed that he was a little off, and somebody
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had to know he was assembling weapons or thought about weapons,
or talked about weapons. I mean, there had to be
somebody in his midst that was able to see in
his closet figuratively and literally.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, you would think we don't know enough about his
living circumstances. The police and the FBI got four search warrants,
one obviously for the church in the school, and then
three others for three different residences. So it's unclear to
me about where he lived and where he was living
at the time of the shooting. And so he could
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have been in a situation where he wasn't around his
immediate family, or he had a safe place where he hit.
All this stuff, you can't underestimate. The fact was that
the vast majority of mass shooters are going to isolation,
and they're very sort of singular as to what they
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do and how they do it. So my guess is
the writings the YouTube were all done alone in some location.
And to your point, this stuff is, he's so dark
and so bizarre, how could you not notice, at least
behaviorally a change in him? So we'll see what that goes, right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's always the curiosity to me is that how do
you contain that, like that maniacal laughter that we heard
on the YouTube video and this level of agitation, how
do you contain that for an eight hour shift at
work he had to have coworkers. I mean, there's there's
got to be somebody from the outside of the bubble
of his dark bubble that was able to see and
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could speak to Yeah, he had he.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Mumbled about this, he's got.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean, nobody could exist with a car paying car insurance, gasoline,
have the money to buy these weapons and be that
isolated from the world.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, you'd be surprised. I mean, there's a a term
called a mask of sanity where and I can tell
you I worked flial offender cases where I'll give you
one example in reference to a serial rapist who had
a full time job, three kids, a wife, he worked
at night. He would go out at night before he
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went to work, break into houses, violently rape women, go
to work, come back home, make breakfast for his kids, kiss,
you know, send his kiss on to school, and his
wife on the work, and just be normal during the day. Wow,
they're able to have parallel personalities. Now, I don't know,
this kid may have some version of that. So if
you have the ability to go do what he did yesterday,
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you know, your ability, if you're still functioning, is that
you can compartmentalize everything. And he's just in his mind,
he had justified what he did yesterday that it needed
to be done, he wanted to do it, and people
need to be punished because they have punished him at least,
you know, obviously in his mind of course. But that's
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what drives us.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism ataalist, Thanks so much,
appreciate your time today bringing us up to speed. On
the latest that we know about this individual. We do
know now that he did, in fact attend that Catholic school.
We learned yesterday that his mother worked at least for
some time in some capacity at the school, so he
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knew about the school and knew presumably the mass hours,
where the children sat, which window to go to to
maximize the carnage on the children. The Mini Appolis Police
Department says they have not been successful in speaking with
the mother, and they aren't commenting on whether they are
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able to make contact with the father.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I presume, I mean what, I'm not convinced the mother
didn't know more than she's sharing. Look, somebody had to know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I appreciate Brad's analysis that I'd be surprised. I just
it would be astounding to me if nobody knew except
the guy that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sold him the guns.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And I understand the guns were purchased legally and recently,
so something snapped. But nevertheless, the good news today is
that the twenty victims that survived the shooting are all
going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But nevertheless hurting.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Lou Penrose if John Cobalt on the John Cobalt Show
on kf I Am six forty Live everywhere on the
iHeart Radio apps.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Lou Penrose sitting in for Coblt.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
This week, we know a little bit more about the
writings of the shooter.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
From yesterday, and it gets more and more bizarre.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
According to The New York Post, he wrote, I only
keep the long hair because it's pretty much my last
shred of being trends. I'm tired of being trans I
wish I never brainwashed myself, he wrote. And that was
not even in English. That was in some foreign tongue
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and translated. And he wrote that in some of the manuals.
But I saw illustration, various illustrations inside his diary, if.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You will, He literally drew a picture of the church.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
With the pews and the fountain and the altar, so
he had everything planned out. Oh and they're still arguing
about the confusion over the name Robert and Robin. We
learned yesterday that Robert at seventeen, said he didn't want
to be Robert anymore. He wanted to be Robin because
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he identified as a woman. But he's a miner at seventeen,
so he asked his mother to take him to court
and petition a name change for him, and the court,
at the request of the parent, granted the miner's name
change at seventeen. He could have done it when he
was eighteen, but it was so important he had to
do it when he was seventeen.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I find that very curious. Why not just wait? In fact,
the name change wasn't approved.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Until twenty twenty, which means he would have been a
year older or closer to a year older, which means
he could have done it himself, and recently writing that
he regrets.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He said he's tired of being trans.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And the folks at CNN, they don't think the trans
thing is an issue. They think we're making a mistake
by calling him him and he doesn't even want to
be trans anymore. He wished he never brainwashed himself. I
don't know if you can brainwash yourself. Here's CNN's Jake
(10:16):
Tapper making us all feel like where the problem is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yes, Robin Westman's mother applied to change her child's name
in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It was at well.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
At one point Robert Paul Westman, but since she identified
us as a female and wants her name to reflect
that identification when was underage, It's.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I love that there was some confusion. We're the
ones that are confused. We that are reading about the story,
washing watching the story. We're the ones that have the confusion.
And Robin doesn't want to even be Robin anymore, tired
of being trans.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Unbelievable. Well, Robert F. Kennedy Junior was asked about this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
They asked him, Look, he may very well have been
on some kind of psychiatric drugs, some kind of antidepressant.
There's all kinds of drugs out there, and there are
drugs being given to people who are transitioning. Was he
chemically transitioning? What's going on? And are you, as the
Secretary of Health and Human Services, looking at the potential
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side effects of some of these drugs They're giving some
of these trans.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Kids potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and
some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing
to violence.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So there are some of these drugs and they're not
just being given to trans kids, but a lot of
young people. By the way, I don't like that they're
calling him a kid. He's twenty three years old. Near
Camp Pendleton, forty two thousand US Marines, the average age
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twenty three. So these those Marines are certainly men and women.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So this isn't a kid. This is the grown ass man.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And maybe and clearly very dangerous and capable of horrible
crimes with weapons on and being potentially administered drugs where
the side effects are homicidal thoughts.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I mean, this is really kind of crazy.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
You know, many of them on there have black black
box warnings that weren't of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation,
so we need we can't exclude those as a caul
bread and those are the kind of studies that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, so Robert F.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Kennedy Junior is going to do those studies homicidal ideations.
Know what that means. I don't like the sound of that.
Whatever it means, it does not sound good. The black
box warning that he refers to. When you go and
get a prescription, right, it's a like a brown clear,
brownish bottle with the white cap and it's got the
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label on it from the doctor with the prescription number,
your name and all that and then sometimes there's an
extra long, triangular a rather rectangular sticker on it, like
there's the sticker that comes with the description of what's
going on, and then there may be one or two.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Those are the black box warnings.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Sometimes they're outlined in a black box, which which is
where it comes from. They're not always outlined with a
black box. Usually it says do not take this with alcohol.
But sometimes it says more strong things. I mean real,
real serious warnings, serious hazards that could lead to death,
in serious industry, serious in injury.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And what RFK Jr.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is saying is that almost all of these drugs have
black box warnings that don't say don't mix this with alcohol,
could make a sleepy. It says there could be suicidal
or homicidal thoughts or intentions as a result as a
result of taking this medicine. So maybe, just maybe it
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might not be worth having these medicines administered to people.
And if the medicine is administered to people, maybe we
ought to ensure they're not near any weapons or anything.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Here's RFK Junior again.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I think this is really an important point because so
many people are saying, look, let's wait for the toxicology report.
Let's see what's going on inside his body, Let's see
what kind of drugs he's on.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He seems to be unstable.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
If he wanted to change his name from Robert to Robin,
that he was probably transitioning. He references in his own
journals that he clearly was trans because now he's saying
he's tired of being trans and wished he never brainwashed
himself in the first place. But is keeping his hair
long because it's the last shred of being trans, which
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is a contradiction. If you're tired of being trans, then
cut your hair. But who knows what's going on in
his mind, And it's likely that he was being prescribed
these kinds of.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Drugs, potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and
some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing
to violence.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So I think this is certainly worthy of examination, and
I'm glad that the Secretary of Health and Human Services
is digging deep into this. I'm sure that there are
a lot of people that are being prescribed all kinds
of psychiatric medicine that are helped by it, and I'm
sure there are lots of responsible doctors, and that's great,
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but when the side effects are so the potential side
effects are so dangerous, and so many SSRIs are being prescribed.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I was watching our Robert F.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Kennedy Junior at a congressional hearing and the statistics were
through the roof, and I think he was.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking about women.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But the amount of women in our society that are
being prescribed these kinds of drugs, the you know, something
is happening out there that is worthy of examination.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And when you can see young people.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
On these very very strong chemicals, it's time, right, It's time.
This is what an agency like the Department of Health
and Human Services ought to be doing to find out
what all is going on here?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
All right? When we get back.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Mayor Karen Bass has ordered increased police presence around.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Schools, particularly Catholic schools, which is surprising because I thought
an increased presence of officers freaked out the illegals.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We'll talk about it coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
Louke Penrose sitting here for John Cobelt. This week. Thanks
for tuning in.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
I'm so glad you guys are talking about this. I
have a twenty two year old son who was on
an SSRI about a year and a half ago. We
started getting these crazy rages. All the doctors wanted to
do was give him more drugs. We slowly took him
off of it. He is so much better. We haven't
seen any rage. He's so much calmer. These SSRIs are evil,
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watch out people.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't know if they
are evil.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think that they are often over prescribed. And look,
I don't know the statistics, and you don't know either,
buy and large. Maybe they're working for most people, and
maybe a small percentage of people are experiencing the side
effects are kind of indications or what Robert F. Kennedy
calls here black box warning that come to reality. But
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then we need to be more thoughtful and more study
has to take place.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And that's exactly what Kennedy said he was going to do.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some
of the other psychatric drugs that might be contributing to violence.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, my middle son three four five years ago. Maybe
when he was in elementary school. You know, there was
concentration problem. He said, there was concentration problem. He wasn't
getting his work done. So is that lazy? Is that
emotional immaturity? Is that bad parenting? Maybe I should have
been more strict, My wife should have been more strict.
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At one point we took him to the eye doctor.
Can he not see the blackboard or the whiteboard whatever
it's called now?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So eventually, of course, it became some kind of uh,
you know, focusing drug, and I was really apprehensive about it.
I called my brother, who works with children, not in
that capacity, but he's around young people.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He works in respiratory.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Care in North Carolina at the medical center. But I
just asked these like as close to a medical person that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I would trust their opinion. And he said that a
lot of people are really, you know, helped by these things.
So try it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You can always take it away. You can try tate up,
you can try tate down. And I said, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Seems so loosey goosey.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
With a chemical that affects your mind and it's a stimulant,
why would I want my child stimulated? They're like, and
I remember my brother telling me, Lou, that doesn't work
like that, like if their thoughts are racing that they
can't concentrate, sometimes a stimulant.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Slows them down.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I said, Okay, that doesn't make any sense at all,
Like I'm not a physician, I'm not a brain surgeon,
but that doesn't make any sense at all, Like if
you're a nervous wreck, the last thing you need is
a second cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So but ultimately we tried it and he said.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It did help him focus, and we did it for
a couple of years and then I'm like, well, it's
time to try to Let's get off it. Let's go
down now. He wasn't agitated or violent or any of
those things. There was some concern about a reduction in hunger,
and his grades improved.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But I'll never know now he's off it now because
I just said that's enough. Let's just he would go
off it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Over the summer, and and I think we just stopped
when the school year returned, and his grades are fine,
his behavior's fine, everything's fine. So did he just did
his emotional maturity just kick in? Did he grow up
a little bit? Did he get a new teacher? Was
he just more mature, able to focus and concentrate with
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his own will.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who knows, but I was really worried about it, and
I agree with the caller. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
These doctors, man, they'll write a prescription like this on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It is curious, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So the mayor also concerned about what happened in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Mayor of Karen Bass.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Tweeted out or sent out a message on x in
light of the attack in Many, Minnesota. The Los Angeles
Police Department is conducting extra patrols at all Catholic schools
and places of worship where Los Angeles Unified School District
is advising the safety teams to increase high visibility of
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patrols at schools as well. So, because of recent events,
the Mayor of Los Angeles wants a heightened level of
visibility of officers on the school campuses, patrols at Catholic schools,
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and the Los Angeles Unified School District advising for high
visibility patrols at their schools as well, so public schools,
which is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I thought this was absolutely fascinating. I thought.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That an increase of police presence or any law enforcement
presence in and around the schools freaked out the illegals.
I thought that was the reason the illegals were staying home.
I thought the illegals were afraid to do drop off
because the law enforcement were going to get him. I
don't think illegals know the difference between LAPD, the Sheriff's Department,
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Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement FBI.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
They're all law enforcement, and if you're an illegal, you
want to I was told that they were very scared.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Remember that there are people people dropping off groceries at
their homes because they're so afraid.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I was told that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The you know, the all the markets, the open air
markets in downtown, the food markets, all the illegals were
hiding out because of Trump's ice commandment to deport all
the illegals. That all the good illegals were scared and
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they were staying home, and all the good illegals were
afraid to drop off their kids to school because of
the increased law enforcement presence.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And now the mayor of Los Angeles is.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Saying, well, yes and no, lou Yes, if you have
ice vehicles around the schools, then the illegals they'll scram
But if there is a shooter that's shooting Catholic kids
in Minneapolis, why then we do want an increase in
the visibility at police because that'll scare away the trans
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shooter from the Catholic schools here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Like, it's unbelievable hypocrisy.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Either the imposition of law enforcement is the highest deturn
of crime, which I believe it is, or it isn't.
Isn't the mayor of Los Angeles concerned a lot of
either galaliens or Catholic So presumably they'd be in those
Catholic schools on some kind of scholarship. Well, maybe they're
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paying full fare. Tuition could be high, but you know
they're hardworking. We're always told how hard working they are.
They're all on medical but they're hardworking, so.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
They could afford the tuition.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So wouldn't the illegals that have their kids in Catholic
school be spooked by the increase of law enforcement circling
around the school. I don't know, your honor, they want
to double check what's going on and rethink it. The
John Cobbolt Show on KFIM six forty lou Penrose, John Colebelt.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John coblt this week.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Coming up following the News at two, Governor Gavin Newsom
is getting tough on crime.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He's had enough, too much crime in California.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He has been saying that everywhere else has a higher
murder rate than California, and then today he pivoted and
announced the Crime Suppression Team. Governor Newsom announced the next
phase in the crime fighting efforts. He's deploying new CHP
officers as part of a crime Suppression.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Team to work with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In Los Angeles, San Diego, the Ie Central Valley, Sacramento,
San Francisco, and the Bay Area. So they're going to
fight crime, stop crime, increase arrests, throw the bad guys
in the back of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The squad car, everybody down, get on your.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Knees, including working with Border Patrol. Wait do you hear
this press conference? When was the last time you heard
California Governor Gavin Newsom mentioned the Border Patrol in.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
A positive way.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
The last time I heard him mention the Border Patrol
he was angry that the Border Patrol were in Sacramento
doing interior enforcement.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now he's happy to deploy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
A crime suppression unit in San Diego that's gonna work
with not just the local law enforcement authorities in San Diego,
but the Border Patrol.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Why do you think.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Gavin Newsom all of a sudden is concerned about crime?
Why do you think Gaven Newsom all of a sudden
thinks there's too much crime in California, in Los Angeles,
the Bay Area. I wonder what else is going on
out there, who else is talking about crime, who else
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is stepping up efforts to combat crime, who else is
having huge success in lowering crime rates? And what other
major American politician likes the Border Patrol?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Very curious.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We'll tell you all about it coming up following the
News at two o'clock. Will also be joined by Michael
Monks in the KFI newsroom. He's been covering this for
quite some time. And you know, of course that Gavin
Newsom is now trying to compete with President Trump, who
looks like the crime fighter of the century with respect
to what he is accomplishing in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
So they are going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They're not talking to each other, but he is mentioning
President Trump all the time. He did it yesterday at
a conference for Politico. I'll share with what I'll share
with you what he said. President Trump is mentioning California
Governor Newsom a lot. The two of them are on
each other's minds a lot. The difference is Trump is
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in office and Newsom wants to be the president and
Trump won't be on the ballot when Newsom is a candidate,
should he get the nomination, unless, of course, Trump runs
in twenty twenty eight, Now, that is unconstitutional at this point. Yesterday,
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California Governor Gavenusam said he is convinced that somehow the
Constitution will be amended and Trump will seek the nomination.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Win it, and run. So I don't know if that's
prophecy delusion. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But it was a heck of a day for California
Governor Gavenusom and uh and these he we hear this
phrase a lot living rent free in someone's brain. There
is no question that the President of the United States
is living rent free in the brain of the California governor.
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And we'll I'll share it with you. You can make
your decisions for yourself. But that's all coming up following
the news at two?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Can youbody got wives out there on the SSRIs?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So I'll tell you what mine's on them and it
kills their sex drive.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'll tell you what that gets a boot.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
When I was a kid, our brother and I in
grade school. I found this out a couple of years ago.
We were given white crosses. You know, speed calm you down,
because I'm kids, it has an opposite effect instead of
speeding you up. It kind of mellows you out first,
have a good job.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't fully understand that.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Maybe that's true. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It doesn't really make sense if you think about it,
when does it end? Like when does that end? Because
at some point speed speeds you up? Like so is
that like does puberty flip that they give children speed
to slow them down? And then when does that end?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Because there are teenagers that get.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Addicted to amphetamines not to be depressed, but for the
opposite effect. So look, if the chemistry is that cock eye,
then maybe Robert F. Kennedy Junior is onto something when
he says we need to study all of this all
over again.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
You know, many of them on there have black box
warnings that weren't of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So we need we can't.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Exclude those as a call bread and those are the
kind of nutties that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Some of the more common black box warnings that he's
referencing there. These are warnings issued by the US Food
and Drug Administration. The FDA alert prescribers, the prescribers, not
the patients to serious hazards that could lead to death
serious injury. Some of the more prominent black box warnings
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provide critical information about potential risk, vulnerable patients, the populations
of those patients, or the critical dosing instructions. So what
he's saying there is that doctors need to be more
thoughtful and how they administered these drugs.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
It does.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Remain to be seen what exactly was in his system.
But we know very little more about this shooter from yesterday, so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was. Yeah,
a lot of confusion about the name of the shooter.
That's what CNN's focused on. The rest of us want
to know why he did it.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Robin Westman obtained the three guns legally and recently, according
to Minneapolis police. The police now shifting their investigation into
the writings from what seems like the shooter's journal that
includes sketches of a.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Picture, technical problems there, yeah, sketches of the church. That
is pretty spooky stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And we still don't know anything about the siblings. We
still don't know anything about the mother, the FBI said,
or rather, the Minneapolis Police Department said, they have not
yet been successful in interviewing the mother, which means to
me that the mother is still at large. I still
I know these are all adults, or at least he's
an adult, the mother's an adult.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know how old the siblings are.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But at some point, if we're going to continue what
I call this extended adolescence, and we all are guilty
of it because so many of us refer to him
as a kid.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Look, this kid was troubled. This was some troubled kid
twenty three years old. I don't know where he was living.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Let's, for the sake of argument, say he was living
with his mother, and his mother was paying his car insurance,
and you know, his mother was paying room and board.
And I don't know if he had a job or not,
but he had some kind of cash because he was
able to obtain these guns. Now the mother could say,
I had no idea, But you do have responsibility over
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what goes on in your house. Like if you own
a house and you live in that house and your
son is running a meth lab in the basement or
in one of the bedrooms, like you are as the homeowner,
responsible for what's going on in that house. So at
what point do we extend the responsibility to the enabling
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parent of these adults but effectively extended adolescents, which is
what really it appears he is choose.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
Pelisia shooter appears to have timed a YouTube video to
post yesterday.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
It's under review by the FBI.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
The video contains weapon inscriptions containing hateful, disturbing messages targeting blah.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The problems there.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Uh yeah, he went after everybody. He was targeting Jews
in the Holocaust. He was questioning whether Jews died in
the Holocaust or not enough died.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I mean, very hateful things. He went on.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Everybody, went on the black population, Asian population, certainly President Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He didn't like him either. So it was completely deranged.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And in many respects I kind of agree with Sharon
on this from Gary and Shannon, Like, I am fascinated
with crime, and you know, crime stories when there are
motives involved that regard you know, wealth or greed or
vengeance or crimes of passion and all that other stuff
that's the stuff of movies.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
When it's just the writings of a lunatic, what's the difference?
Who cares what he says?
Speaker 11 (34:42):
Like?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
How does that help anybody understand?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
More importantly, how does that help anybody stop this from
happening again going forward?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Which ultimately is the goal here, Lou Penrose.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
If John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show on KFI
AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
AFI, Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt this week.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
More news on the shooter from yesterday, good news and
not so good news. The good news is the twenty
individuals that were injured are all set to recover. That
includes the fifteen of those twenty who are children and
yesterday were in critical condition, children as young as six.
But the reports at of Minneapolis and the area hospitals
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is everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Will recover but will be hurting. Nothing brings back the
death of the eight year old and the ten year old.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The bad news is we have learned more about the
shooter and none of it helps us understand a motive.
ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins us. Brad,
thanks for spending some time with us. The FBI is
digging through what appears to be like pages and pages
of notes and descriptions and drawings and illustrations.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
What do we have so far?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So you have to look at mass shooters that you
sort of fit this particular shooter's profile, and I'll tell
you most of the things I've read about him are
reviewed fit many other mass shootings that I've looked at, investigated,
et cetera. And it is an obsession, and obsessions drive
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people into great detail. In this case, it's all dark.
It's anger, it's rage, it's calling you know, every sort
of group that you can think of, anti Black, anti Muslim.
It goes on and on his sort of level of
hatred of so many individuals. But there's for him, there's
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all a purpose in doing that, because he's trying to
come up with enough energy and enough I guess gumption
to go and commit what he did yesterday. And something
triggered him. I don't know what it was, maybe school
starting because he was a student at that school and
his mother used to work there. He would know, you
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know approximately and it may well be published when the
kids would be in the church itself, and that's when
he hit it. Apparently he tried to get in and
they had locked the doors. So this conversation would even
be worse that you and I are having today if
in fact he did all that shooting, if he had
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done it inside the church. So I mean, this is
what you've got with him, And he was on a mission.
He knew he was going to die. Apparently he didn't
care about that. He just wanted to go out with
and so to speak at a blaze of glory and
then have his YouTube stuff published after he's dead again
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just sort of you know, it's a power thing, right,
we're talking about him today who've never even heard of
him forty eight hours ago. So that's what a lot
of this is. It's fame when it boils right down
to it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So when he mentioned siblings in some of his statements,
some of his writings, so there were siblings, we haven't
heard from them. From what I understand, the Minneapolis p
D have not been able successful, not been successful in
speaking with the mother. Certainly somebody in the family would
have noticed that he was a little off, and somebody
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had to know he was assembling weapons or thought about weapons,
or talked about weapons. I mean, there had to be
somebody in his midst that was able to see in
his closet figuratively and literally.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, you would think we don't know enough about his
living circumstances. The police and the FBI got four search warrants,
one obviously for the church in the school, and then
three others for three different residences. So it's unclear to
me about where he lived and where he was living
at the time of the shooting. And so he could
(04:05):
have been in a situation where he wasn't around his
immediate family, or he had a safe place where he hit.
All this stuff, you can't underestimate. The fact was that
the vast majority of mass shooters are going to isolation,
and they're very sort of singular as to what they
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do and how they do it. So my guess is
the writings the YouTube were all done alone in some location.
And to your point, this stuff is, he's so dark
and so bizarre, how could you not notice, at least
behaviorally a change in him? So we'll see what that goes, right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That's always the curiosity to me is that how do
you contain that, like that maniacal laughter that we heard
on the YouTube video and this level of agitation, how
do you contain that for an eight hour shift at
work he had to have coworkers. I mean, there's there's
got to be somebody from the outside of the bubble
of his dark bubble that was able to see and
(05:08):
could speak to Yeah, he had he.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Mumbled about this, he's got.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean, nobody could exist with a car paying car insurance, gasoline,
have the money to buy these weapons and be that
isolated from the world.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, you'd be surprised. I mean, there's a a term
called a mask of sanity where and I can tell
you I worked flial offender cases where I'll give you
one example in reference to a serial rapist who had
a full time job, three kids, a wife, he worked
at night. He would go out at night before he
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went to work, break into houses, violently rape women, go
to work, come back home, make breakfast for his kids, kiss,
you know, send his kiss on to school, and his
wife on the work, and just be normal during the day. Wow,
they're able to have parallel personalities. Now, I don't know,
this kid may have some version of that. So if
you have the ability to go do what he did yesterday,
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you know, your ability, if you're still functioning, is that
you can compartmentalize everything. And he's just in his mind,
he had justified what he did yesterday that it needed
to be done, he wanted to do it, and people
need to be punished because they have punished him at least,
you know, obviously in his mind of course. But that's
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what drives us.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism ataalist, Thanks so much,
appreciate your time today bringing us up to speed. On
the latest that we know about this individual. We do
know now that he did, in fact attend that Catholic school.
We learned yesterday that his mother worked at least for
some time in some capacity at the school, so he
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knew about the school and knew presumably the mass hours,
where the children sat, which window to go to to
maximize the carnage on the children. The Mini Appolis Police
Department says they have not been successful in speaking with
the mother, and they aren't commenting on whether they are
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able to make contact with the father.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I presume, I mean what, I'm not convinced the mother
didn't know more than she's sharing. Look, somebody had to know.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I appreciate Brad's analysis that I'd be surprised. I just
it would be astounding to me if nobody knew except
the guy that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sold him the guns.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And I understand the guns were purchased legally and recently,
so something snapped. But nevertheless, the good news today is
that the twenty victims that survived the shooting are all
going to be okay.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But nevertheless hurting.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Lou Penrose if John Cobalt on the John Cobalt Show
on kf I Am six forty Live everywhere on the
iHeart Radio apps.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Lou Penrose sitting in for Coblt.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
This week, we know a little bit more about the
writings of the shooter.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
From yesterday, and it gets more and more bizarre.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
According to The New York Post, he wrote, I only
keep the long hair because it's pretty much my last
shred of being trends. I'm tired of being trans I
wish I never brainwashed myself, he wrote. And that was
not even in English. That was in some foreign tongue
(08:39):
and translated. And he wrote that in some of the manuals.
But I saw illustration, various illustrations inside his diary, if.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You will, He literally drew a picture of the church.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
With the pews and the fountain and the altar, so
he had everything planned out. Oh and they're still arguing
about the confusion over the name Robert and Robin. We
learned yesterday that Robert at seventeen, said he didn't want
to be Robert anymore. He wanted to be Robin because
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he identified as a woman. But he's a miner at seventeen,
so he asked his mother to take him to court
and petition a name change for him, and the court,
at the request of the parent, granted the miner's name
change at seventeen. He could have done it when he
was eighteen, but it was so important he had to
do it when he was seventeen.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I find that very curious. Why not just wait? In fact,
the name change wasn't approved.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Until twenty twenty, which means he would have been a
year older or closer to a year older, which means
he could have done it himself, and recently writing that
he regrets.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He said he's tired of being trans.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And the folks at CNN, they don't think the trans
thing is an issue. They think we're making a mistake
by calling him him and he doesn't even want to
be trans anymore. He wished he never brainwashed himself. I
don't know if you can brainwash yourself. Here's CNN's Jake
(10:16):
Tapper making us all feel like where the problem is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yes, Robin Westman's mother applied to change her child's name
in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It was at well.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
At one point Robert Paul Westman, but since she identified
us as a female and wants her name to reflect
that identification when was underage, It's.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I love that there was some confusion. We're the
ones that are confused. We that are reading about the story,
washing watching the story. We're the ones that have the confusion.
And Robin doesn't want to even be Robin anymore, tired
of being trans.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Unbelievable. Well, Robert F. Kennedy Junior was asked about this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
They asked him, Look, he may very well have been
on some kind of psychiatric drugs, some kind of antidepressant.
There's all kinds of drugs out there, and there are
drugs being given to people who are transitioning. Was he
chemically transitioning? What's going on? And are you, as the
Secretary of Health and Human Services, looking at the potential
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side effects of some of these drugs They're giving some
of these trans.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Kids potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and
some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing
to violence.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So there are some of these drugs and they're not
just being given to trans kids, but a lot of
young people. By the way, I don't like that they're
calling him a kid. He's twenty three years old. Near
Camp Pendleton, forty two thousand US Marines, the average age
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twenty three. So these those Marines are certainly men and women.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So this isn't a kid. This is the grown ass man.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And maybe and clearly very dangerous and capable of horrible
crimes with weapons on and being potentially administered drugs where
the side effects are homicidal thoughts.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I mean, this is really kind of crazy.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
You know, many of them on there have black black
box warnings that weren't of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation,
so we need we can't exclude those as a caul
bread and those are the kind of studies that we're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, so Robert F.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Kennedy Junior is going to do those studies homicidal ideations.
Know what that means. I don't like the sound of that.
Whatever it means, it does not sound good. The black
box warning that he refers to. When you go and
get a prescription, right, it's a like a brown clear,
brownish bottle with the white cap and it's got the
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label on it from the doctor with the prescription number,
your name and all that and then sometimes there's an
extra long, triangular a rather rectangular sticker on it, like
there's the sticker that comes with the description of what's
going on, and then there may be one or two.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Those are the black box warnings.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Sometimes they're outlined in a black box, which which is
where it comes from. They're not always outlined with a
black box. Usually it says do not take this with alcohol.
But sometimes it says more strong things. I mean real,
real serious warnings, serious hazards that could lead to death,
in serious industry, serious in injury.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And what RFK Jr.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is saying is that almost all of these drugs have
black box warnings that don't say don't mix this with alcohol,
could make a sleepy. It says there could be suicidal
or homicidal thoughts or intentions as a result as a
result of taking this medicine. So maybe, just maybe it
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might not be worth having these medicines administered to people.
And if the medicine is administered to people, maybe we
ought to ensure they're not near any weapons or anything.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Here's RFK Junior again.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I think this is really an important point because so
many people are saying, look, let's wait for the toxicology report.
Let's see what's going on inside his body, Let's see
what kind of drugs he's on.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He seems to be unstable.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
If he wanted to change his name from Robert to Robin,
that he was probably transitioning. He references in his own
journals that he clearly was trans because now he's saying
he's tired of being trans and wished he never brainwashed
himself in the first place. But is keeping his hair
long because it's the last shred of being trans, which
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is a contradiction. If you're tired of being trans, then
cut your hair. But who knows what's going on in
his mind, And it's likely that he was being prescribed
these kinds of.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Drugs, potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and
some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing
to violence.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So I think this is certainly worthy of examination, and
I'm glad that the Secretary of Health and Human Services
is digging deep into this. I'm sure that there are
a lot of people that are being prescribed all kinds
of psychiatric medicine that are helped by it, and I'm
sure there are lots of responsible doctors, and that's great,
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but when the side effects are so the potential side
effects are so dangerous, and so many SSRIs are being prescribed.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I was watching our Robert F.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Kennedy Junior at a congressional hearing and the statistics were
through the roof, and I think he was.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking about women.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But the amount of women in our society that are
being prescribed these kinds of drugs, the you know, something
is happening out there that is worthy of examination.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And when you can see young people.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
On these very very strong chemicals, it's time, right, It's time.
This is what an agency like the Department of Health
and Human Services ought to be doing to find out
what all is going on here?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
All right? When we get back.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Mayor Karen Bass has ordered increased police presence around.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Schools, particularly Catholic schools, which is surprising because I thought
an increased presence of officers freaked out the illegals.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We'll talk about it coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
Louke Penrose sitting here for John Cobelt. This week. Thanks
for tuning in.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
I'm so glad you guys are talking about this. I
have a twenty two year old son who was on
an SSRI about a year and a half ago. We
started getting these crazy rages. All the doctors wanted to
do was give him more drugs. We slowly took him
off of it. He is so much better. We haven't
seen any rage. He's so much calmer. These SSRIs are evil,
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watch out people.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't know if they
are evil.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I think that they are often over prescribed. And look,
I don't know the statistics, and you don't know either,
buy and large. Maybe they're working for most people, and
maybe a small percentage of people are experiencing the side
effects are kind of indications or what Robert F. Kennedy
calls here black box warning that come to reality. But
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then we need to be more thoughtful and more study
has to take place.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And that's exactly what Kennedy said he was going to do.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some
of the other psychatric drugs that might be contributing to violence.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, my middle son three four five years ago. Maybe
when he was in elementary school. You know, there was
concentration problem. He said, there was concentration problem. He wasn't
getting his work done. So is that lazy? Is that
emotional immaturity? Is that bad parenting? Maybe I should have
been more strict, My wife should have been more strict.
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At one point we took him to the eye doctor.
Can he not see the blackboard or the whiteboard whatever
it's called now?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
And nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So eventually, of course, it became some kind of uh,
you know, focusing drug, and I was really apprehensive about it.
I called my brother, who works with children, not in
that capacity, but he's around young people.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He works in respiratory.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Care in North Carolina at the medical center. But I
just asked these like as close to a medical person that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I would trust their opinion. And he said that a
lot of people are really, you know, helped by these things.
So try it.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You can always take it away. You can try tate up,
you can try tate down. And I said, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Seems so loosey goosey.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
With a chemical that affects your mind and it's a stimulant,
why would I want my child stimulated? They're like, and
I remember my brother telling me, Lou, that doesn't work
like that, like if their thoughts are racing that they
can't concentrate, sometimes a stimulant.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Slows them down.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I said, Okay, that doesn't make any sense at all,
Like I'm not a physician, I'm not a brain surgeon,
but that doesn't make any sense at all, Like if
you're a nervous wreck, the last thing you need is
a second cup of coffee.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So but ultimately we tried it and he said.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It did help him focus, and we did it for
a couple of years and then I'm like, well, it's
time to try to Let's get off it. Let's go
down now. He wasn't agitated or violent or any of
those things. There was some concern about a reduction in hunger,
and his grades improved.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
But I'll never know now he's off it now because
I just said that's enough. Let's just he would go
off it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Over the summer, and and I think we just stopped
when the school year returned, and his grades are fine,
his behavior's fine, everything's fine. So did he just did
his emotional maturity just kick in? Did he grow up
a little bit? Did he get a new teacher? Was
he just more mature, able to focus and concentrate with
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his own will.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who knows, but I was really worried about it, and
I agree with the caller. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
These doctors, man, they'll write a prescription like this on tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It is curious, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So the mayor also concerned about what happened in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Mayor of Karen Bass.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Tweeted out or sent out a message on x in
light of the attack in Many, Minnesota. The Los Angeles
Police Department is conducting extra patrols at all Catholic schools
and places of worship where Los Angeles Unified School District
is advising the safety teams to increase high visibility of
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patrols at schools as well. So, because of recent events,
the Mayor of Los Angeles wants a heightened level of
visibility of officers on the school campuses, patrols at Catholic schools,
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and the Los Angeles Unified School District advising for high
visibility patrols at their schools as well, so public schools,
which is fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I thought this was absolutely fascinating. I thought.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That an increase of police presence or any law enforcement
presence in and around the schools freaked out the illegals.
I thought that was the reason the illegals were staying home.
I thought the illegals were afraid to do drop off
because the law enforcement were going to get him. I
don't think illegals know the difference between LAPD, the Sheriff's Department,
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Border Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement FBI.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
They're all law enforcement, and if you're an illegal, you
want to I was told that they were very scared.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Remember that there are people people dropping off groceries at
their homes because they're so afraid.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I was told that.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The you know, the all the markets, the open air
markets in downtown, the food markets, all the illegals were
hiding out because of Trump's ice commandment to deport all
the illegals. That all the good illegals were scared and
(23:27):
they were staying home, and all the good illegals were
afraid to drop off their kids to school because of
the increased law enforcement presence.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
And now the mayor of Los Angeles is.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Saying, well, yes and no, lou Yes, if you have
ice vehicles around the schools, then the illegals they'll scram
But if there is a shooter that's shooting Catholic kids
in Minneapolis, why then we do want an increase in
the visibility at police because that'll scare away the trans
(23:58):
shooter from the Catholic schools here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Like, it's unbelievable hypocrisy.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Either the imposition of law enforcement is the highest deturn
of crime, which I believe it is, or it isn't.
Isn't the mayor of Los Angeles concerned a lot of
either galaliens or Catholic So presumably they'd be in those
Catholic schools on some kind of scholarship. Well, maybe they're
(24:30):
paying full fare. Tuition could be high, but you know
they're hardworking. We're always told how hard working they are.
They're all on medical but they're hardworking, so.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
They could afford the tuition.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So wouldn't the illegals that have their kids in Catholic
school be spooked by the increase of law enforcement circling
around the school. I don't know, your honor, they want
to double check what's going on and rethink it. The
John Cobbolt Show on KFIM six forty lou Penrose, John Colebelt.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John coblt this week.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Coming up following the News at two, Governor Gavin Newsom
is getting tough on crime.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
He's had enough, too much crime in California.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
He has been saying that everywhere else has a higher
murder rate than California, and then today he pivoted and
announced the Crime Suppression Team. Governor Newsom announced the next
phase in the crime fighting efforts. He's deploying new CHP
officers as part of a crime Suppression.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Team to work with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In Los Angeles, San Diego, the Ie Central Valley, Sacramento,
San Francisco, and the Bay Area. So they're going to
fight crime, stop crime, increase arrests, throw the bad guys
in the back of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The squad car, everybody down, get on your.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Knees, including working with Border Patrol. Wait do you hear
this press conference? When was the last time you heard
California Governor Gavin Newsom mentioned the Border Patrol in.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
A positive way.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
The last time I heard him mention the Border Patrol
he was angry that the Border Patrol were in Sacramento
doing interior enforcement.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now he's happy to deploy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
A crime suppression unit in San Diego that's gonna work
with not just the local law enforcement authorities in San Diego,
but the Border Patrol.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Why do you think.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Gavin Newsom all of a sudden is concerned about crime?
Why do you think Gaven Newsom all of a sudden
thinks there's too much crime in California, in Los Angeles,
the Bay Area. I wonder what else is going on
out there, who else is talking about crime, who else
(27:05):
is stepping up efforts to combat crime, who else is
having huge success in lowering crime rates? And what other
major American politician likes the Border Patrol?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Very curious.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We'll tell you all about it coming up following the
News at two o'clock. Will also be joined by Michael
Monks in the KFI newsroom. He's been covering this for
quite some time. And you know, of course that Gavin
Newsom is now trying to compete with President Trump, who
looks like the crime fighter of the century with respect
to what he is accomplishing in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
So they are going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
They're not talking to each other, but he is mentioning
President Trump all the time. He did it yesterday at
a conference for Politico. I'll share with what I'll share
with you what he said. President Trump is mentioning California
Governor Newsom a lot. The two of them are on
each other's minds a lot. The difference is Trump is
(28:11):
in office and Newsom wants to be the president and
Trump won't be on the ballot when Newsom is a candidate,
should he get the nomination, unless, of course, Trump runs
in twenty twenty eight, Now, that is unconstitutional at this point. Yesterday,
(28:31):
California Governor Gavenusam said he is convinced that somehow the
Constitution will be amended and Trump will seek the nomination.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Win it, and run. So I don't know if that's
prophecy delusion. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But it was a heck of a day for California
Governor Gavenusom and uh and these he we hear this
phrase a lot living rent free in someone's brain. There
is no question that the President of the United States
is living rent free in the brain of the California governor.
(29:11):
And we'll I'll share it with you. You can make
your decisions for yourself. But that's all coming up following
the news at two?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Can youbody got wives out there on the SSRIs?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
So I'll tell you what mine's on them and it
kills their sex drive.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'll tell you what that gets a boot.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
When I was a kid, our brother and I in
grade school. I found this out a couple of years ago.
We were given white crosses. You know, speed calm you down,
because I'm kids, it has an opposite effect instead of
speeding you up. It kind of mellows you out first,
have a good job.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't fully understand that.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Maybe that's true. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It doesn't really make sense if you think about it,
when does it end? Like when does that end? Because
at some point speed speeds you up? Like so is
that like does puberty flip that they give children speed
to slow them down? And then when does that end?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Because there are teenagers that get.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Addicted to amphetamines not to be depressed, but for the
opposite effect. So look, if the chemistry is that cock eye,
then maybe Robert F. Kennedy Junior is onto something when
he says we need to study all of this all
over again.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
You know, many of them on there have black box
warnings that weren't of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So we need we can't.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Exclude those as a call bread and those are the
kind of nutties that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Some of the more common black box warnings that he's
referencing there. These are warnings issued by the US Food
and Drug Administration. The FDA alert prescribers, the prescribers, not
the patients to serious hazards that could lead to death
serious injury. Some of the more prominent black box warnings
(31:02):
provide critical information about potential risk, vulnerable patients, the populations
of those patients, or the critical dosing instructions. So what
he's saying there is that doctors need to be more
thoughtful and how they administered these drugs.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
It does.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Remain to be seen what exactly was in his system.
But we know very little more about this shooter from yesterday, so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
There's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was. Yeah,
a lot of confusion about the name of the shooter.
That's what CNN's focused on. The rest of us want
to know why he did it.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
Robin Westman obtained the three guns legally and recently, according
to Minneapolis police. The police now shifting their investigation into
the writings from what seems like the shooter's journal that
includes sketches of a.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Picture, technical problems there, yeah, sketches of the church. That
is pretty spooky stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And we still don't know anything about the siblings. We
still don't know anything about the mother, the FBI said,
or rather, the Minneapolis Police Department said, they have not
yet been successful in interviewing the mother, which means to
me that the mother is still at large. I still
I know these are all adults, or at least he's
an adult, the mother's an adult.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I don't know how old the siblings are.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But at some point, if we're going to continue what
I call this extended adolescence, and we all are guilty
of it because so many of us refer to him
as a kid.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Look, this kid was troubled. This was some troubled kid
twenty three years old. I don't know where he was living.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Let's, for the sake of argument, say he was living
with his mother, and his mother was paying his car insurance,
and you know, his mother was paying room and board.
And I don't know if he had a job or not,
but he had some kind of cash because he was
able to obtain these guns. Now the mother could say,
I had no idea, But you do have responsibility over
(33:06):
what goes on in your house. Like if you own
a house and you live in that house and your
son is running a meth lab in the basement or
in one of the bedrooms, like you are as the homeowner,
responsible for what's going on in that house. So at
what point do we extend the responsibility to the enabling
(33:28):
parent of these adults but effectively extended adolescents, which is
what really it appears he is choose.
Speaker 11 (33:42):
Pelisia shooter appears to have timed a YouTube video to
post yesterday.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
It's under review by the FBI.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
The video contains weapon inscriptions containing hateful, disturbing messages targeting blah.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
The problems there.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Uh yeah, he went after everybody. He was targeting Jews
in the Holocaust. He was questioning whether Jews died in
the Holocaust or not enough died.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I mean, very hateful things. He went on.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Everybody, went on the black population, Asian population, certainly President Trump.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He didn't like him either. So it was completely deranged.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
And in many respects I kind of agree with Sharon
on this from Gary and Shannon, Like, I am fascinated
with crime, and you know, crime stories when there are
motives involved that regard you know, wealth or greed or
vengeance or crimes of passion and all that other stuff
that's the stuff of movies.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
When it's just the writings of a lunatic, what's the difference?
Who cares what he says?
Speaker 11 (34:42):
Like?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
How does that help anybody understand?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
More importantly, how does that help anybody stop this from
happening again going forward?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Which ultimately is the goal here, Lou Penrose.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
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