October 10, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (10/10) - Mark Thompson fills in for John. Neema Romani from West Coast Trial Lawyers joins the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't find AM six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Debra and the crew all in tow. We're talking about
another fatal butt implant situation.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A lot of people getting these butt implants. Debra, I mean,
I'm not saying you have one.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Does my butt look like it's a big bubble butt.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I don't. I don't look. I don't ever look. Well,
let me tell you it's not. Okay, no, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
When did the bubble butt thing become a thing? I mean,
I think it was the Kardashians that made it big.
To be honest, I mean it made it popular.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Kim Kardashian, keeping up with the Kardashians. I think that's
where it all started.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And now it's wildly out of control to the point
that there are people performing these butt implants who are
not doctors. And this Riverside County woman known as the
Butt Lady, now convicted of murder after a second client,
this is a TV actor living in Malibu, died from
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silicone injections that she administered. Don't take my word for it,
take the word of the former federal prosecutor and president
of the Los Angeles based West Coast Trial Lawyers Nima Romani. Nima,
welcome to KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mark, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thanks for having me as always of course, Nima, What
the hell is going on?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, we've seen this. We've seen people
die from medical tourism. For instance, they go to Mexico,
they go to other countries and now here in the
United States. You know folks who aren't medical professionals, who
aren't qualified for performing dangerous procedures, and not one, but
two people have died. That's why it's a murders.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And these people people go to someone like this woman
because it's wildly discounted.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Is it must be that, right?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
No question?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You can say have a lot of money, maybe it's
the convenience just come into your house, right, Think how
much these procedures cost if you go to a medical doctor, Well,
how much how much do they cost?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't have a BBO, I don't have.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Or a silicone in my butt.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, my wife has done all sorts of procedures. I
can definitely ask her. She'll love a better sense. I
don't know, frankly, but obviously if you're playing Russian roulette
with your life when you're going to someone who isn't qualified.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
To do this, sure of course, so you know, in
normal situations, you might have damages. You know, you might
be able to sue for uh things related to damages
as a result of this operation gun sideways. But in
this case, the patient died.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, so obviously there's always the possibility of the civil
laws to medical malpractice, you know, assault battery, because this
is someone that really because they're not licensed, they can't
even perform this procedure. But when someone dies, you start
looking at potential manslaughter charges. And that's what she faced
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the first time around, right, she ended up having to
take it's the manslaughter and the judge warned her and
told her, look, if this happens again, you do this again,
you're going to be charged with murder.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The judge warned her, No more of this, no more,
no more illegal SILICONI implants that you're doing out of
your home.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Judge warned her and said, if it happens again, you're
going to be prosecuted for murder. And that's exactly what happened.
And this is why when it comes to murder. Obviously,
you can be prosecuted if you intend to kill someone,
and only if it's an accident, that's just manslaughter. That's
a difference between the two. But there is a type
of murder that's called depraved heart or deliberate indifference murder.
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And I use the Russian roulette example, but you know,
the typical law school analogy is I have a loaded gun,
I shoot it into an empty building or a vehicle.
I don't know if someone's in there or not. I
am playing with someone's life, really deliberately ignoring the risk.
And because she knew that this was a risky procedure,
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she had done it before, she'd killed someone, and she
did it again. That's how you get to murder in
a case like this, and that's what she's going to
do at least fifteen years in California state prison, maybe
even more so.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The reason she was out there and still able to
do this is because it was involuntary the first time.
That is to say it was an accident, as you've articulated.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yes, that's right. So obviously very different sentence when you're
dealing with manslaughter and murder. And look, she tried to
argue that it wasn't her, someone else must have done
the injection. She just showed up after the fact. But
you know the text messages, I mean that proved that
that was a lie. And you know the fact that
she was unnoticed is the reason that she's really a slam.
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It kind of reminds me a little bit of Matthew Perry,
the ketamine Queen. She provided a fatal dose to someone
he died, and then she provided drugs to Matthew Perry
and he died. That's why she's going to say significant
time of sentencing herself.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, and just to throw another few specifics on it,
I mean, she was aware of the dangers, and there
is evidence, as you say that she was aware of
the dangers, and prosecutors say they're security camera footage of
her fleeing the salon as a paramedics rushed in. So
you know that was an in twenty eighteen, you know,
there was a sense that, you know, she's trying to
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not own the accident but flee the accident, right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, exactly. And look, she voldadized once before she was
acquitted the first time around in the murder right, she
was convicted of the manslaughter She got a four year sentence,
but was released really after less than a year because
of crowding and on electronic monitoring.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
So folks knew where.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
She was and she continued to do this, which is
why I think she's going to be slammed when sentencing
rolls around.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
She did work as an assistant to doctors or consultant
to doctors in Mexico. I think that was prior to
being in California. She was, you know, not practicing any
of this in California from what I understand, but that
that's pretty tepid, you know. So the notion is that
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it's not like I didn't know anything about this. I
was consulting doctors in Mexico about it.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, And that was one of the defense arguments in
the case that look, you know, this is done in Mexico.
It's done by individuals like a dominant. But again, this
is in Mexico. It's the United States. There's different standards
and really, frankly, each state has its own medical licensing requirements.
You can't just do this can be you know, a
pirogractor or pharmacist. I mean, you have to be a
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medical professional that is licensed. And I had experienced doing
these types of procedures. They're dangerous, right, You're putting silicone
into someone's buttocks, right, It's not like you know, you're
administering a flu shot here. And the fact that she
had done this before got caught prosecuted again. I mean,
this is really bad. You know it's bad, and I
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wouldn't be surprised if she spends decades in prison.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you. I mean,
she's in saying it is November fifth, so you think
they're really gonna the I mean, it's not just the scroll,
but it's what you've said, which is that, Look, she
was warned, she was told, she knew, and she went
forward with this and then she killed somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I think so. I mean, look, you have the
fifteen year minimum, there's enhancement of three six years for
the bodily injury for me, and judges are you know
obviously it's just supposed to decide the case solely based
on the facts of that case. But the reality is
she got a slamp on the risk less than a
year in prison after killing someone. Now she's killed the
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second person. I don't think there's any leniency, any mitigation
in this case. That's why I'm thinking twenty plus years
for this woman based on what she's done.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now a second time, well, the FDA warn that injectable
silicone for body contouring is not FDA approved, So I
mean it's but it's growing in popularity. I mean it's
more popular now that it's ever been. So Again, when
it really goes sideways and you have somebody involved in
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the process who doesn't know what they're doing, you end
up with what has happened here, wild wild stuff. Nima,
thank you. Always like your take and I appreciate you
checking in today.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Of course, Mark Dottison, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Okay, my friend Nima Romani, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
By the way, if you're curious, and I know you're
just curious as an observer, you wouldn't. You're not actually
in the market shopping for a butt implant, but it
will set you back. And by the way, the BBL
is kind of you just want the jargon. It's Brazilian
butt lift. Okay, so you just have BBL. That's the
way the kids say it. It's between eight thousand and
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fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, you can pay less, but.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They say, you know, if you get much below eight K,
you're dealing with maybe a surgeon that doesn't have a
lot of expertise, and anesthesiologist and anesthesia fees that may
not reflect an actual legitimacy. So you get what you
pay for.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It seems like is that always the case?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah? On some level.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, you know, sometimes, let's face, you roll into
Beverly Hills, you're going to be paying a premium for
using a Beverly Hills doctor or there being a procedure
in Beverly Hills, and you're just paying kind of a
zip code up charge, don't you think.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yes, But if you're going to if you're going to
have any kind of surgery, it needs to be somebody
who has a licensed.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh right, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean this woman did not. And I'm not saying
you have to go pay Beverly Hills prices. There are
other doctors that can perform surgery that I'm sure are
a lot less expensive, but to save money, no, I
guess you don't think you're going to die from a.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
B Yeah, I mean, this is the thing, but it
is something in your body. You know, you're putting something
in your body and this lady known as the butt Lady.
You know, I guess had a reputation, but I'm sure
it was a managed reputation. I'm sure she didn't lead
with the fact that she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter
once when she killed somebody. And then you end up with,
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you know again, these two. You think the TV actor
might have a couple of dollars, but TV actor is
one of those things they say, and you know, the
person may not have been on a TV series for
some time and they may want to be saving a
few dollars. In any case, she's going to go away
for a long time. I think Nima's one hundred percent
right about that. It's the co Belt Show, Mark Thompsons
sitting in for John on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I was looking with interest for that story that the
La Times. I think they won the Pulitzer for that
story about the DDT that with the dumping of the
DDT off shore, there's miles and miles of these DDT
drums was done I think in the fifties barrels, barrels
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and barrels of industrial waste, and you know DDT was
just part of it. They were dumped off the code
near Catalina for the most part from the nineteen thirties
until nineteen seventy two. I remember reading the story when
I first got the La Times that morning and that
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story first broke. They did this deep sea survey and
they found this extensive area of these barrels and other
debris in the San Pedro Basin, and it was a
place where they just dumped all of this stuff, I mean,
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all this industrial chemical waste. The Montrose Chemical Corporation, which
was this major DDT producer at the time, and they
they just this is sort of the way they view
the ocean. We still kind of treat the ocean, I
think as sort of an open sewer. We just dumped
stuff in there. But in the thirties and then in
the decades from the thirties all the way until nineteen
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seventy two, they were just dumping stuff there in these barrels.
And these barrels do what over the years, They completely
break down, they just rust out. See you end up
with all of this chemical leaching into the seawater. And
then of course it just flows into the seawater. As
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you know, through the decades, the barrels completely break down, right,
so you know how many of these barrels are there?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That was the.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Astounding thing to me. There's so many. It's almost unquantifiable.
I mean, there's just tons of this stuff. So apparently
there's going to be a documentary I think that's going
to be released about it, and I'm really anxious to
see it because what they did is they mapped the
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area of the ocean floor that I'm talking about, like
near Catalina, and in mapping it these deep sea surveys,
they were able to actually see how much of that
debris was there. And it was just, as I say it,
an absolute stupefying, I mean, incredible scheme roller on your mind.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Amount.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It wasn't one two three, or even three hundred or
even three thousand. It was this extensive area of ocean
dumping of industrial waste. And so it wasn't until the
Marine Protection, Research and Sanctuaries Act, which was like an
the Ocean Dumping Act essentially is what it was, back
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in nineteen seventy two, that they were able to stop this.
But this Montrose Chemical Corporation in Torrance was a major
producer of DDT. They generated a ton of DDT, and
so you have this DDT laced acid sludge waste that's
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this entire area. Anyway, they're coming out with this program
they could say, as they say, a documentary, and I'm
really anxious to see it, just to see the vastness
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think they won the bulletser at the LA Times
for the research on this. But you know, decades old
barrels of industrial waste just sitting there and destroying this
wide area of the California seafloor and leeching on into
the ocean. Crazy crazy stuff. I don't know why I
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thought of that, but I did, and I do mention
it to you because I think if you are a
Californian and you care about anything related to one of
the great resources we have in California, which is the ocean,
it's important to know what you're swimming in. You know
what you're in and what ways in which we treat
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the ocean now have been modified. We are better, not
all the way good, but a whole lot better than
we were in the thirties, forties, fifties, sixties and seventies.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Last week. And it was maybe one of the coolest
things I've ever done. And I've done a lot of
cool stuff, okay, but it was spectacular, I mean. And
so Sharon said, well, you know, this is what got
us talking. Jay Leno was calling. I thought, oh my god,
I had such a great time in his garage, and
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now you got him on the line for real. Oh
that's super cool. Hey, j Lenno, welcome to KFI.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I'm enjoying your buttock success programming today.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You like that, don't go a discount butdocks jobs, Jay,
if you ever consider.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Well, I saw a story. This is right up here, Alley.
This is a real story, all right, guy. The guy
is admitted to the hospital with twenty eight toy horses
in his rectum. Okay, but here's without a bit of irony.
The doctor listed him as stable.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I dit it, stayble because the toy horses in his rectum.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
That's right, his rectum is an actual stable.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh my god, you can't even write a joke on that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
The joke is right there.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, I remember when a big butt was a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Right, when did this butt thing, this obsession begin. I
think it was with the Kardashians.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Maybe that might have been it might have been. Yeah, yeah,
probably be a good thing. Yeah, sure, I go.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I uh, it's weird that you know you mentioned this,
that the stable thing, because today didn't I send you
that audio? Did I send you that audio Mario or not?
Of the sheriff. I don't think. I don't know if
I did. The sheriff in Florida talking about the fact
that they busted a guy in the you have it?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Do you have it? It's kind of long.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't want to, you know, but but what he's
talking about is that they busted a guy there who
smuggled a thermos into the jail. Now he and and
then the sheriff center he didn't swallow the thermos, so
it kind of kind of makes it clear that he
put it up the business end.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And yes, yeah, I guess that's what you call the
business end. I guess I might call it something else.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean, what I'm wondering, Jay Leno, is what you're
smuggling a thermos into a jail for.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I mean, explain that to me. I don't get that.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I well, I had no idea. Yes, but you know
there was a story on the news today. I just
wrote a joke about it. Can I try it out
on it?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh? Please? Please?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
An ad jump professor at the University of Mexico was
fired for exposing himself to a female student. See he
was an ad junk professor, not a show junk. Is
that just stupid?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Uh? It's it's it's clever. I think it's clever. I
think you can include it. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I'm gonna try and flappers, I love it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You're you still do flappers regularly, don't you?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, it's a fun play to try out jokes. And
you know, musicians go to clubs and so comedians you
really have to see if something works with a real audience.
You can't just oh, I'm a comedian, this is real funny.
You don't know until you try it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sure, of course.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, that makes it. I mean, I know you used
to play there. Do you still play comedy in magic
or there? Is that still a.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Thing every Sunday since seventy eight?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's unreal, man, unreal? And who else is on that
bill regularly with you?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Is it? Brogan or who is.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah, Jimmy Brondo. He's a great comic.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
He's a really great man.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He always makes me laugh and he just he's like
the like one of the original crowd work type comics.
And it's so funny down there, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Fun because he and I always work clean, you know,
so it makes it makes a good UHOD team.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah. And he looks like does he He has a
joke about how he looks. He looks like a shop
teacher or something. He looks like, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's better. Yeah, the algebra teacher is better.
Well that's cool, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So Sunday at UH in Manhattan Beach at Comedy and
Magic and Flappers tonight. I love it. I love it, Leno.
You gave me one of the great thrills your garage was.
I mean it truly. I can't thank you enough. It
was so much fun.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
You're obsolutely easily amused. So thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
For the spectacular. So you, Jay, Leno.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Everybody, it is a John Covelt show, Mark Thompson sitting
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Speaker 7 (20:58):
You're listening to John co Well on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Mark Thompson sitting in for John Cobilt today and just
looking at all the money that's pouring into California around
Prop fifty, both sides bringing in just over six million.
I mean that's actually down from the amount that was
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brought in last month. But this is a wildly funded
campaign to try to get Prop fifty passed or defeated. Boy,
you know who really is happy about all this money
being spent. Who are the big recipients of this money?
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The TV stations. TV's in trouble, okay, so the TV
stations need political money. It's a big, big thing. I mean,
it's as big phylical money as a car dealership money,
which is the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
But the idea that there is, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Tens of millions of dollars associated with this is a
big part of the California economy when it comes to media.
So that's one side of that's just the economics of it.
But Newsom's committee once again top funds getter more than
four point six million in the latest rays. Kevin McCarthy's
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linked No on Prop fifty group was second with one
point twenty five million raised. That's just an allowed last week,
and Mike Johnson, who's the Republican House Speaker of course,
has gotten into that fight over Prop fifty and he's
put in almost a million dollars from the Republican Party
and the pack there, the American Revival Pack. So that's
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what's happening there with Prop fifty. And it's California is
on the you know, it's on the front line of
a lot of politics. Did you see the Governor Newsom
was giving Jared Kushner a pat on the back for
the job well done. Literally he used the words job
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well done on getting this deal to end the war
in Gazen.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I thought it was a.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Kind of a rare moment that the governor extended an
open hand and an atta boy. And I think you
have to I mean, I've made this point. I was
making it some time ago. I think at the beginning
of the show. I don't care what you think of Trump.
You have to give the guy credit for having leveraged
the relationship between the Kataris, the Amoradis, the Saudi's. You
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have to give him credit for the relationship that he
has with Nettan Yahoo. I mean again, you can slice
and dice this a lot of different ways. But I
give the guy credit for dragging this across the finish line,
for stopping the fighting, for getting the relief into Gaza,
and forgetting a hostage release. So in that same category,
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I guess, as Gavin Newsom, he said, let me applaud
Jared Kushner and Whitkoff and others for what appears to
be a job well done on phase one of a
peace deal agreement long overdue. There's no partisanship in this respect,
he said. So this is a significant time in kind
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of a realignment of the Middle East, and I think
you see that in Newsom's remarks, and that matters, and
you'll see maybe a political realignment as well. That follows
stocks off a cliff today, wild because stocks were flirting
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with all time highs and now there is talk from
the President that there'll be additional tariffs on imports from China,
and the fear of a trade war between the two
biggest economies on Earth sent the Dow down eight hundred
and seventy nine points almost two percent, the S and
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P off two point seventy one percent, almost three percent,
and the Nasdaq over three percent. Three and a half percent,
worst day since April, and Trump saying in a social
media post, which is where he says a lot of stuff,
he's considering a massive increase in tariffs on imports from China.
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He says, quote, there is no way that China should
be allowed to hold the world captive over rare earth exports.
And this is again, these are accusations around China imposing
export controls on rare earth. It's kind of getting to
previous agreements, but sort of slow walking them for US businesses.
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And so Trump is saying A he's kind of smack
talking China, and B he's saying he doesn't see any
reason to meet with she. I mean, that's supposed to
happen later this month. So we'll just say Wall Street
and businesses are taking these threats seriously. So again, the
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stock market, near record highs now is falling off a cliff.
We'll see if he backs off on this, if he
softens his position, But all strategists associated with investments are
saying this is a problem. And AI and chip stocks,
which have I think almost single handedly held up the market,
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they're really sensitive to this. Right, the NVIDIAs of the world,
the AMDs of the advanced micro devices of the world,
because this is a big story for these companies that
desperately need that relationship with China. And also some would say, hey,
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the stock market's way overvalued already, so in a way,
the stock market is just ready for a correction. And
these stocks that have been holding up the market again
these you know, well they're the AI stocks. They are
going to take the biggest hit because they've been the
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high flyers all this time. So this is to be continued.
But this got everybody's attention today. And when you have
China and the US flirting with a real trade war,
I mean it is a It gets everyone's attention once again.
And it may be a very choppy period for much
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of the market and much of the world market as well.
So this is all happening on a stage. It's very
high profile. But did you see the story I just
quickly closed with this about the cleaners who were involved
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in a burglary and they were cleaning again they're supposed
to be cleaning the house and it turns out they
are cleaning out the house. Yeah, they arrested two women
they were suspected of. This is in La a cleaning
crew representing themselves as such and they stole thousands in cash,
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jewelry and high end bags. Both Columbian nationals booked on
suspicion of grand theft and suspected to be part of
a larger transnational organized crime ring. They're accused of making
fake profiles on a cleaning service app that allows them
to gain access to the homes. According to the cops,
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and during the investigation, detectives recovering fifty thousand dollars in cash, jewelry,
and high end handbags belonging to a bunch of victims.
And they also found in their possession Wi Fi jammers
so that can be used to disarm cameras and alarms,
cell phones, GPS trackers. They found stolen license plates when
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they searched the apartments. This is something that has been
talked about burglary tourism, you know, where theft rings from
South America come to America to target homes and affluent neighborhoods.
We've been talking about this since May. Remember there were
seven Colombian nationals arrested in May. They were burglarizing homes
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in Burbank. This latest case is in La So this
is clearly a a much bigger story and a much
bigger crime ring than even was represented by the seven
arrests back in may. Be careful who you allow to
clean your house is the short term advice I would
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give to you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Next with the whole Conway crew, I'm going to go
back into my hole. It's KFI AM six forty. Thanks
for all the help everybody. We're live everywhere on the
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Speaker 1 (30:27):
Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.
You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Debra and the crew all in tow. We're talking about
another fatal butt implant situation.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
It's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
A lot of people getting these butt implants. Debra, I mean,
I'm not saying you have one.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Does my butt look like it's a big bubble butt.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I don't. I don't look. I don't ever look. Well,
let me tell you it's not. Okay, no, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
When did the bubble butt thing become a thing? I mean,
I think it was the Kardashians that made it big.
To be honest, I mean it made it popular.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Kim Kardashian, keeping up with the Kardashians. I think that's
where it all started.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
And now it's wildly out of control to the point
that there are people performing these butt implants who are
not doctors. And this Riverside County woman known as the
Butt Lady, now convicted of murder after a second client,
this is a TV actor living in Malibu, died from
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silicone injections that she administered. Don't take my word for it,
take the word of the former federal prosecutor and president
of the Los Angeles based West Coast Trial Lawyers Nima Romani. Nima,
welcome to KFI.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mark, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thanks for having me as always of course, Nima, What
the hell is going on?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, we've seen this. We've seen people
die from medical tourism. For instance, they go to Mexico,
they go to other countries and now here in the
United States. You know folks who aren't medical professionals, who
aren't qualified for performing dangerous procedures, and not one, but
two people have died. That's why it's a murders.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
And these people people go to someone like this woman
because it's wildly discounted.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Is it must be that, right?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
No question?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
You can say have a lot of money, maybe it's
the convenience just come into your house, right, Think how
much these procedures cost if you go to a medical doctor, Well,
how much how much do they cost?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't have a BBO, I don't have.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Or a silicone in my butt.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, my wife has done all sorts of procedures. I
can definitely ask her. She'll love a better sense. I
don't know, frankly, but obviously if you're playing Russian roulette
with your life when you're going to someone who isn't qualified.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
To do this, sure of course, so you know, in
normal situations, you might have damages. You know, you might
be able to sue for uh things related to damages
as a result of this operation gun sideways. But in
this case, the patient died.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, so obviously there's always the possibility of the civil
laws to medical malpractice, you know, assault battery, because this
is someone that really because they're not licensed, they can't
even perform this procedure. But when someone dies, you start
looking at potential manslaughter charges. And that's what she faced
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the first time around, right, she ended up having to
take it's the manslaughter and the judge warned her and
told her, look, if this happens again, you do this again,
you're going to be charged with murder.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The judge warned her, No more of this, no more,
no more illegal SILICONI implants that you're doing out of
your home.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Judge warned her and said, if it happens again, you're
going to be prosecuted for murder. And that's exactly what happened.
And this is why when it comes to murder. Obviously,
you can be prosecuted if you intend to kill someone,
and only if it's an accident, that's just manslaughter. That's
a difference between the two. But there is a type
of murder that's called depraved heart or deliberate indifference murder.
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And I use the Russian roulette example, but you know,
the typical law school analogy is I have a loaded gun,
I shoot it into an empty building or a vehicle.
I don't know if someone's in there or not. I
am playing with someone's life, really deliberately ignoring the risk.
And because she knew that this was a risky procedure,
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she had done it before, she'd killed someone, and she
did it again. That's how you get to murder in
a case like this, and that's what she's going to
do at least fifteen years in California state prison, maybe
even more so.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
The reason she was out there and still able to
do this is because it was involuntary the first time.
That is to say it was an accident, as you've articulated.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Yes, that's right. So obviously very different sentence when you're
dealing with manslaughter and murder. And look, she tried to
argue that it wasn't her, someone else must have done
the injection. She just showed up after the fact. But
you know the text messages, I mean that proved that
that was a lie. And you know the fact that
she was unnoticed is the reason that she's really a slam.
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It kind of reminds me a little bit of Matthew Perry,
the ketamine Queen. She provided a fatal dose to someone
he died, and then she provided drugs to Matthew Perry
and he died. That's why she's going to say significant
time of sentencing herself.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, and just to throw another few specifics on it,
I mean, she was aware of the dangers, and there
is evidence, as you say that she was aware of
the dangers, and prosecutors say they're security camera footage of
her fleeing the salon as a paramedics rushed in. So
you know that was an in twenty eighteen, you know,
there was a sense that, you know, she's trying to
(05:54):
not own the accident but flee the accident, right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, exactly. And look, she voldadized once before she was
acquitted the first time around in the murder right, she
was convicted of the manslaughter She got a four year sentence,
but was released really after less than a year because
of crowding and on electronic monitoring.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
So folks knew where.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
She was and she continued to do this, which is
why I think she's going to be slammed when sentencing
rolls around.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
She did work as an assistant to doctors or consultant
to doctors in Mexico. I think that was prior to
being in California. She was, you know, not practicing any
of this in California from what I understand, but that
that's pretty tepid, you know. So the notion is that
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it's not like I didn't know anything about this. I
was consulting doctors in Mexico about it.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, And that was one of the defense arguments in
the case that look, you know, this is done in Mexico.
It's done by individuals like a dominant. But again, this
is in Mexico. It's the United States. There's different standards
and really, frankly, each state has its own medical licensing requirements.
You can't just do this can be you know, a
pirogractor or pharmacist. I mean, you have to be a
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medical professional that is licensed. And I had experienced doing
these types of procedures. They're dangerous, right, You're putting silicone
into someone's buttocks, right, It's not like you know, you're
administering a flu shot here. And the fact that she
had done this before got caught prosecuted again. I mean,
this is really bad. You know it's bad, and I
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wouldn't be surprised if she spends decades in prison.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you. I mean,
she's in saying it is November fifth, so you think
they're really gonna the I mean, it's not just the scroll,
but it's what you've said, which is that, Look, she
was warned, she was told, she knew, and she went
forward with this and then she killed somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I think so. I mean, look, you have the
fifteen year minimum, there's enhancement of three six years for
the bodily injury for me, and judges are you know
obviously it's just supposed to decide the case solely based
on the facts of that case. But the reality is
she got a slamp on the risk less than a
year in prison after killing someone. Now she's killed the
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second person. I don't think there's any leniency, any mitigation
in this case. That's why I'm thinking twenty plus years
for this woman based on what she's done.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now a second time, well, the FDA warn that injectable
silicone for body contouring is not FDA approved, So I
mean it's but it's growing in popularity. I mean it's
more popular now that it's ever been. So Again, when
it really goes sideways and you have somebody involved in
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the process who doesn't know what they're doing, you end
up with what has happened here, wild wild stuff. Nima,
thank you. Always like your take and I appreciate you
checking in today.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Of course, Mark Dottison, have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Okay, my friend Nima Romani, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
By the way, if you're curious, and I know you're
just curious as an observer, you wouldn't. You're not actually
in the market shopping for a butt implant, but it
will set you back. And by the way, the BBL
is kind of you just want the jargon. It's Brazilian
butt lift. Okay, so you just have BBL. That's the
way the kids say it. It's between eight thousand and
(09:28):
fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, you can pay less, but.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
They say, you know, if you get much below eight K,
you're dealing with maybe a surgeon that doesn't have a
lot of expertise, and anesthesiologist and anesthesia fees that may
not reflect an actual legitimacy. So you get what you
pay for.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It seems like is that always the case?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah? On some level.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, you know, sometimes, let's face, you roll into
Beverly Hills, you're going to be paying a premium for
using a Beverly Hills doctor or there being a procedure
in Beverly Hills, and you're just paying kind of a
zip code up charge, don't you think.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yes, But if you're going to if you're going to
have any kind of surgery, it needs to be somebody
who has a licensed.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh right, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean this woman did not. And I'm not saying
you have to go pay Beverly Hills prices. There are
other doctors that can perform surgery that I'm sure are
a lot less expensive, but to save money, no, I
guess you don't think you're going to die from a.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
B Yeah, I mean, this is the thing, but it
is something in your body. You know, you're putting something
in your body and this lady known as the butt Lady.
You know, I guess had a reputation, but I'm sure
it was a managed reputation. I'm sure she didn't lead
with the fact that she was convicted of involuntary manslaughter
once when she killed somebody. And then you end up with,
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you know again, these two. You think the TV actor
might have a couple of dollars, but TV actor is
one of those things they say, and you know, the
person may not have been on a TV series for
some time and they may want to be saving a
few dollars. In any case, she's going to go away
for a long time. I think Nima's one hundred percent
right about that. It's the co Belt Show, Mark Thompsons
sitting in for John on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I was looking with interest for that story that the
La Times. I think they won the Pulitzer for that
story about the DDT that with the dumping of the
DDT off shore, there's miles and miles of these DDT
drums was done I think in the fifties barrels, barrels
(11:52):
and barrels of industrial waste, and you know DDT was
just part of it. They were dumped off the code
near Catalina for the most part from the nineteen thirties
until nineteen seventy two. I remember reading the story when
I first got the La Times that morning and that
(12:16):
story first broke. They did this deep sea survey and
they found this extensive area of these barrels and other
debris in the San Pedro Basin, and it was a
place where they just dumped all of this stuff, I mean,
(12:37):
all this industrial chemical waste. The Montrose Chemical Corporation, which
was this major DDT producer at the time, and they
they just this is sort of the way they view
the ocean. We still kind of treat the ocean, I
think as sort of an open sewer. We just dumped
stuff in there. But in the thirties and then in
the decades from the thirties all the way until nineteen
(12:58):
seventy two, they were just dumping stuff there in these barrels.
And these barrels do what over the years, They completely
break down, they just rust out. See you end up
with all of this chemical leaching into the seawater. And
then of course it just flows into the seawater. As
(13:21):
you know, through the decades, the barrels completely break down, right,
so you know how many of these barrels are there?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
That was the.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Astounding thing to me. There's so many. It's almost unquantifiable.
I mean, there's just tons of this stuff. So apparently
there's going to be a documentary I think that's going
to be released about it, and I'm really anxious to
see it because what they did is they mapped the
(13:53):
area of the ocean floor that I'm talking about, like
near Catalina, and in mapping it these deep sea surveys,
they were able to actually see how much of that
debris was there. And it was just, as I say it,
an absolute stupefying, I mean, incredible scheme roller on your mind.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Amount.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It wasn't one two three, or even three hundred or
even three thousand. It was this extensive area of ocean
dumping of industrial waste. And so it wasn't until the
Marine Protection, Research and Sanctuaries Act, which was like an
the Ocean Dumping Act essentially is what it was, back
(14:39):
in nineteen seventy two, that they were able to stop this.
But this Montrose Chemical Corporation in Torrance was a major
producer of DDT. They generated a ton of DDT, and
so you have this DDT laced acid sludge waste that's
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this entire area. Anyway, they're coming out with this program
they could say, as they say, a documentary, and I'm
really anxious to see it, just to see the vastness
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I think they won the bulletser at the LA Times
for the research on this. But you know, decades old
barrels of industrial waste just sitting there and destroying this
wide area of the California seafloor and leeching on into
the ocean. Crazy crazy stuff. I don't know why I
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thought of that, but I did, and I do mention
it to you because I think if you are a
Californian and you care about anything related to one of
the great resources we have in California, which is the ocean,
it's important to know what you're swimming in. You know
what you're in and what ways in which we treat
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the ocean now have been modified. We are better, not
all the way good, but a whole lot better than
we were in the thirties, forties, fifties, sixties and seventies.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
So you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Last week. And it was maybe one of the coolest
things I've ever done. And I've done a lot of
cool stuff, okay, but it was spectacular, I mean. And
so Sharon said, well, you know, this is what got
us talking. Jay Leno was calling. I thought, oh my god,
I had such a great time in his garage, and
(16:40):
now you got him on the line for real. Oh
that's super cool. Hey, j Lenno, welcome to KFI.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I'm enjoying your buttock success programming today.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You like that, don't go a discount butdocks jobs, Jay,
if you ever consider.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Well, I saw a story. This is right up here, Alley.
This is a real story, all right, guy. The guy
is admitted to the hospital with twenty eight toy horses
in his rectum. Okay, but here's without a bit of irony.
The doctor listed him as stable.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I dit it, stayble because the toy horses in his rectum.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
That's right, his rectum is an actual stable.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Oh my god, you can't even write a joke on that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
The joke is right there.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, I remember when a big butt was a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Right, when did this butt thing, this obsession begin. I
think it was with the Kardashians.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Maybe that might have been it might have been. Yeah, yeah,
probably be a good thing. Yeah, sure, I go.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I uh, it's weird that you know you mentioned this,
that the stable thing, because today didn't I send you
that audio? Did I send you that audio Mario or not?
Of the sheriff. I don't think. I don't know if
I did. The sheriff in Florida talking about the fact
that they busted a guy in the you have it?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Do you have it? It's kind of long.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't want to, you know, but but what he's
talking about is that they busted a guy there who
smuggled a thermos into the jail. Now he and and
then the sheriff center he didn't swallow the thermos, so
it kind of kind of makes it clear that he
put it up the business end.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And yes, yeah, I guess that's what you call the
business end. I guess I might call it something else.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean, what I'm wondering, Jay Leno, is what you're
smuggling a thermos into a jail for.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I mean, explain that to me. I don't get that.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I well, I had no idea. Yes, but you know
there was a story on the news today. I just
wrote a joke about it. Can I try it out
on it?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh? Please? Please?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
An ad jump professor at the University of Mexico was
fired for exposing himself to a female student. See he
was an ad junk professor, not a show junk. Is
that just stupid?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Uh? It's it's it's clever. I think it's clever. I
think you can include it. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I'm gonna try and flappers, I love it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You're you still do flappers regularly, don't you?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, it's a fun play to try out jokes. And
you know, musicians go to clubs and so comedians you
really have to see if something works with a real audience.
You can't just oh, I'm a comedian, this is real funny.
You don't know until you try it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sure, of course.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, that makes it. I mean, I know you used
to play there. Do you still play comedy in magic
or there? Is that still a.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Thing every Sunday since seventy eight?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's unreal, man, unreal? And who else is on that
bill regularly with you?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Is it? Brogan or who is.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah, Jimmy Brondo. He's a great comic.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
He's a really great man.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He always makes me laugh and he just he's like
the like one of the original crowd work type comics.
And it's so funny down there, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Fun because he and I always work clean, you know,
so it makes it makes a good UHOD team.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah. And he looks like does he He has a
joke about how he looks. He looks like a shop
teacher or something. He looks like, you know, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's better. Yeah, the algebra teacher is better.
Well that's cool, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
So Sunday at UH in Manhattan Beach at Comedy and
Magic and Flappers tonight. I love it. I love it, Leno.
You gave me one of the great thrills your garage was.
I mean it truly. I can't thank you enough. It
was so much fun.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
You're obsolutely easily amused. So thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
For the spectacular. So you, Jay, Leno.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Everybody, it is a John Covelt show, Mark Thompson sitting
in kaf I am six forty live everywhere on the
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Speaker 7 (20:58):
You're listening to John co Well on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Mark Thompson sitting in for John Cobilt today and just
looking at all the money that's pouring into California around
Prop fifty, both sides bringing in just over six million.
I mean that's actually down from the amount that was
(21:27):
brought in last month. But this is a wildly funded
campaign to try to get Prop fifty passed or defeated. Boy,
you know who really is happy about all this money
being spent. Who are the big recipients of this money?
(21:49):
The TV stations. TV's in trouble, okay, so the TV
stations need political money. It's a big, big thing. I mean,
it's as big phylical money as a car dealership money,
which is the next big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
But the idea that there is, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Tens of millions of dollars associated with this is a
big part of the California economy when it comes to media.
So that's one side of that's just the economics of it.
But Newsom's committee once again top funds getter more than
four point six million in the latest rays. Kevin McCarthy's
(22:33):
linked No on Prop fifty group was second with one
point twenty five million raised. That's just an allowed last week,
and Mike Johnson, who's the Republican House Speaker of course,
has gotten into that fight over Prop fifty and he's
put in almost a million dollars from the Republican Party
and the pack there, the American Revival Pack. So that's
(22:56):
what's happening there with Prop fifty. And it's California is
on the you know, it's on the front line of
a lot of politics. Did you see the Governor Newsom
was giving Jared Kushner a pat on the back for
the job well done. Literally he used the words job
(23:16):
well done on getting this deal to end the war
in Gazen.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I thought it was a.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Kind of a rare moment that the governor extended an
open hand and an atta boy. And I think you
have to I mean, I've made this point. I was
making it some time ago. I think at the beginning
of the show. I don't care what you think of Trump.
You have to give the guy credit for having leveraged
the relationship between the Kataris, the Amoradis, the Saudi's. You
(23:51):
have to give him credit for the relationship that he
has with Nettan Yahoo. I mean again, you can slice
and dice this a lot of different ways. But I
give the guy credit for dragging this across the finish line,
for stopping the fighting, for getting the relief into Gaza,
and forgetting a hostage release. So in that same category,
(24:15):
I guess, as Gavin Newsom, he said, let me applaud
Jared Kushner and Whitkoff and others for what appears to
be a job well done on phase one of a
peace deal agreement long overdue. There's no partisanship in this respect,
he said. So this is a significant time in kind
(24:36):
of a realignment of the Middle East, and I think
you see that in Newsom's remarks, and that matters, and
you'll see maybe a political realignment as well. That follows
stocks off a cliff today, wild because stocks were flirting
(24:56):
with all time highs and now there is talk from
the President that there'll be additional tariffs on imports from China,
and the fear of a trade war between the two
biggest economies on Earth sent the Dow down eight hundred
and seventy nine points almost two percent, the S and
(25:20):
P off two point seventy one percent, almost three percent,
and the Nasdaq over three percent. Three and a half percent,
worst day since April, and Trump saying in a social
media post, which is where he says a lot of stuff,
he's considering a massive increase in tariffs on imports from China.
(25:45):
He says, quote, there is no way that China should
be allowed to hold the world captive over rare earth exports.
And this is again, these are accusations around China imposing
export controls on rare earth. It's kind of getting to
previous agreements, but sort of slow walking them for US businesses.
(26:07):
And so Trump is saying A he's kind of smack
talking China, and B he's saying he doesn't see any
reason to meet with she. I mean, that's supposed to
happen later this month. So we'll just say Wall Street
and businesses are taking these threats seriously. So again, the
(26:29):
stock market, near record highs now is falling off a cliff.
We'll see if he backs off on this, if he
softens his position, But all strategists associated with investments are
saying this is a problem. And AI and chip stocks,
which have I think almost single handedly held up the market,
(26:52):
they're really sensitive to this. Right, the NVIDIAs of the world,
the AMDs of the advanced micro devices of the world,
because this is a big story for these companies that
desperately need that relationship with China. And also some would say, hey,
(27:12):
the stock market's way overvalued already, so in a way,
the stock market is just ready for a correction. And
these stocks that have been holding up the market again
these you know, well they're the AI stocks. They are
going to take the biggest hit because they've been the
(27:33):
high flyers all this time. So this is to be continued.
But this got everybody's attention today. And when you have
China and the US flirting with a real trade war,
I mean it is a It gets everyone's attention once again.
And it may be a very choppy period for much
(27:57):
of the market and much of the world market as well.
So this is all happening on a stage. It's very
high profile. But did you see the story I just
quickly closed with this about the cleaners who were involved
(28:18):
in a burglary and they were cleaning again they're supposed
to be cleaning the house and it turns out they
are cleaning out the house. Yeah, they arrested two women
they were suspected of. This is in La a cleaning
crew representing themselves as such and they stole thousands in cash,
(28:41):
jewelry and high end bags. Both Columbian nationals booked on
suspicion of grand theft and suspected to be part of
a larger transnational organized crime ring. They're accused of making
fake profiles on a cleaning service app that allows them
to gain access to the homes. According to the cops,
(29:03):
and during the investigation, detectives recovering fifty thousand dollars in cash, jewelry,
and high end handbags belonging to a bunch of victims.
And they also found in their possession Wi Fi jammers
so that can be used to disarm cameras and alarms,
cell phones, GPS trackers. They found stolen license plates when
(29:28):
they searched the apartments. This is something that has been
talked about burglary tourism, you know, where theft rings from
South America come to America to target homes and affluent neighborhoods.
We've been talking about this since May. Remember there were
seven Colombian nationals arrested in May. They were burglarizing homes
(29:50):
in Burbank. This latest case is in La So this
is clearly a a much bigger story and a much
bigger crime ring than even was represented by the seven
arrests back in may. Be careful who you allow to
clean your house is the short term advice I would
(30:12):
give to you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Next with the whole Conway crew, I'm going to go
back into my hole. It's KFI AM six forty. Thanks
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