May 21, 2025 • 38 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (05/21) - CA State Assemblyman Carl DeMaio comes on the show to talk about how he got the Newsom administration to admit they are under federal investigation for misappropriating funds for illegal immigrant healthcare. John is thrilled to hear that US Attorney Bill Essayli is working to go around sanctuary city policies in LA. Daniel Guss comes on the show to talk about "Elephant-gate".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:02):
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Let's get right to it, because Carl has a lot
going on. Carl Demyo is the Republican Assemblyman. Most recently
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he was able to force the Assembly and soon the
Senate and Governor Newsom to sign legislation that makes buying
a sixteen or seventeen year old for sex a felony. Really,
it wasn't up until this point, not an automatic one.
Now he's taking on Newsom and the illegal alien healthcare racket,
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where we're spending now twelve billion dollars on cradle to
grave legal alien healthcare. No other state is spending any
money on that. The federal government won't spend any.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Money on it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So what might be going on, Well, it might be
the California is taking federal money and spending it on
a legal alien health care. Anyway, let's get Carl DeMaio
on to talk about what he's discovered.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Any thanks, for having me on what have you found out?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Because you will what was reported in the media last
week was a lie. Governor Gavin Knewso unveiled a budget
that finally admitted that what we told you back in
January that the state has a twelve billion dollar budget
deficit last January, just four months ago, he said it
was quote a modest surplus, and at my first budget
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committee hearing before I was thrown off, we unveiled the
evidence that there was a budget deficit. So he comes
out and confirms what we said in January twelve billion
dollar deficit. And the reason why he didn't want you
to know there was a deficit in January was because
he wants to blame it all on Trump, because if
the deficit existed before Trump was sworn into office, then
he can't call it the Trump swamps. It's not because
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of Trump. It's really because of the reckless management of
Democrats and the governor in the state of California. But
worse worse, that twelve billion dollar deficit is caused entirely
by the illegal immigrant health care costs, which is twelve
point one billion, So we're twelve billion dollars short. Twelve
point one billion of that is illegal immigrant free healthcare.
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And he said during his press conference that he was
going to quote cut the illegal immigrant health care and
pause it. Well, hold on a second. A cut would
define it as reducing what we're spending. Instead, our budget
is going from nine point five billion this year for
illegal immigrant free healthcare to twelve point one billion next year.
That's not a cut, that's an increase. And this guy
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says that he's going to pause any new enrollments in
the program, but even his own numbers show that we're
going to be covering one hundred thousand more illegal immigrants
next year year in his plan for free health care.
So the media got it wrong. The media lied or
got bamboozled, and Newsom is fully going to fund and
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continue this giveaway. And the big problem that we're seeing
is that we don't have the money to cover all
these illegal immigrants, and that means that citizens here in
California will have to go without. They've already cut hospice,
they've cut developmentally disabled home health care. You're going to
have a longer wait time for doctors and nurses. Doctors,
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nurses and hospitals are not going to get reimbursed on
a timely basis, adding financial strain to the system. This
is going to jeopardize the health coverage for the mediast
of California citizens in order to give freebies to people
who shouldn't be here in the first place.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So legal residents, American citizens who are poor and need
medical they're getting screwed in favor of all these benefits
for the illegal aliens. I mean, that is just just unconscionable.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, and they sat there at the hearing saying that
illegal immigrants shouldn't be penalized for Donald Trump's cuts. Remember,
the federal government doesn't reimburse for illegal immigrants to begin with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There are no cuts because they don't give you any money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
There's nothing a cut exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
But what they're saying, what they're not saying out loud,
but what they're inferring is that they know that they
are illegally using federal funds to cover illegal immigrant healthcare.
And then when Donald Trump comes back through the Department
of Health and Human Services and says, sorry, we audited
your invoices. You spend money on people who are not
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eligible under federal law for health coverage. We have to
claw back this money. They're turning around and blaming Trump
for follow the law. Do you understand how how dishonest
these people are? And this is nothing more than gaslighting
these people are. Now they passed a resolution on Monday
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condemning Donald Trump for creating a crisis in medical and
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, this is like the devil.
This is like the devil complaining that about sin. You know,
it's the Democrats of Newsom that have put medical on
the brink of financial collapse through their bad decisions, not
Donald Trump. And yet they're getting away with it with
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the media. The media is parroting these lives. And you
don't have to like Trump, but at least blame Trump
for whatever you want to blame him for correctly. But
when it comes to Medicaid, you need to blame the
Democrats and Gavin Newsom and nobody else.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, that's the burden of one party rule with veto
proof majorities super majorities is in the end, you're responsible.
You're to blame for everything. You can't pot it off
on Republicans because there's not enough of them to make
a difference right now except for you bringing all this
to light.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So do you do you have Do you have a
moment so I can stay with you. The other thing
we uncovered yesterday. So I've been dozing California step by
step and I'm pulling various contracts and grants. We found
one for two point four million dollars. It's a no
big contract to a group called two one one LA.
You may know of them. They're a nonprofit in LA,
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but they're a left wing group and they they basically
say that hate crimes are everywhere, and uh, you know,
they have a specific point of view, and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Fine for them.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
They're they have a right to have their point of view.
But two point four million dollars in federal dollars have
gone to them in a no big contract to operate
with the state of California is calling a hate crime hotline,
and this no big contract.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I asked them.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I said, well, how many hate crimes have been prosecuted
because of this hotline in the last two years? The
answer zero. And then I said, well, well, how many
calls or emails or contacts have you received and they said,
well we got two thousand, one hundred and eight eighteen
last year. Well, that's a two point four million dollar contract.
That's one hundred and thirty three dollars and fourteen cents
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per call or email handled, which is roughly five or
six a day. But it gets worse. Of those, most
of them are pranks. Most of them were not about
hate crimes. Only oneenty twenty had anything related to discrimination. Well,
that means it's two thousand, three hundred and fifty two
dollars and ninety four cents per email or call related
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to some sort of discrimination. Oh, but it gets worse.
Of those oney twenty hate related complaints, only about four
out of six of them, or six hundred and eighty
of them, actually resulted in a referral or a recommendation
for services. That's three thowenty nine dollars and forty one
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cents per referral. And by the way, what is a referral?
They basically said, well, it sounds like you've been a
victim of a hate crime or some discrimination. Here's an
attorney you may want to talk to, or here is
a brief counselor you should talk to. Again, this is
a this is a two point four million dollar piece
of griff to fund the left wing organization. And I
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said at a time when we're cutting things in the budget.
Two point four million may not seem like a lot,
but a lot of this starts adding up. That's just
one of the many contracts that we're shining a light
on in California state government.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, that's the second time I've heard about a hotline
that cost a lot of money. There was one in
La County or La City not too long ago for
sexual harassment and they were getting about eight calls a
year and it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. So
I realized that that is another racket, is a hot
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one for some pressing social issue where people are suffering,
and it's just complete not I'd like to see the
salaries of the people in this organization. What are they
paying themselves? That's a story.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think it's worse.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I think it's worse.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think that there is nothing more than the window
dressing for money laundry. I think what the politicians are
doing is they set up a contract that they know
is to do nothing. Contract and they say, oh, you know,
open up an email account and have a phone number,
and long how many emails or calls you get. But
really what we're doing is we're giving you two point
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four million dollars to go out there and agitate and
activate and organize for politics. And again, I have no
problem with the nonprofit doing whatever they want to do,
but not with government money. If they want to raise
their money from private sources and it's called the First Amendment,
but not with government money. I believe that this is
money laundry. I believe that this is not just your
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wasteful spending. I think it's corrupt.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Let me ask you about one more thing here. You
put out a post today that Newsome's budget is cutting
key law enforcement programs.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What specifically is that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
About, Oh, he's decided he's going to shut another prison.
So what he's doing in this budget is he's not
funding the implementation of Prop thirty six. This is the
landmark reform measure from last year that voters overwhelmingly approved,
even Los Angeles County voted in favor of it, to
make crime illegal again. But the governor now needs to
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provide funding for the implementation of Prop. Thirty six, and
he chose not to. And part of the funding is
making sure there are enough prison beds for that. When
when we start prosecuting again and sending people to jail
for smashing, grabs and other crimes that we actually can
you put them behind bars, and so he cut funding.
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He's shutting another prison. We know that one third of
the prisoners that he released just in the last three
years have been rearrested and prosecuted for additional crimes. And
that's in a state that doesn't do arrests and prosecutions.
So we know that the actual number of crimes that
are being recommitted by these releases are much higher. Everywhere
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you look, this guy is cutting public safety even though
voters clearly stated they want to make crime fighting a
priority again in our state. And I'm hoping that there's
bipartisan support to restore some of these dangerous cuts because
now it's the matter of public safety.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't know how long this goes on. Carl Demyele,
thank you for coming on. Great work.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Take care, all right, Carl Demiele, Republican Assemblement. After two thirty,
we're gonna have Daniel guss On. He's got a substack.
You ought to read it. He's got a second story
on the La Zoos situation. You know, the two elephants
were suddenly they're disappeared in the middle of the night,
maybe heading for Tulsa. Daniel will be coming on and
explaining what's happened to the two elephants. How do you
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lose two elephants? How do you make them both disappear?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Coming up after two thirty, Daniel Gus with a one
two punch.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Here.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The Los Angeles Zoo had two elephants, Asian elephants, Billy
and Tina, and they're in Tulsa. Now they're at the
Tulsa Zoo and this has got a lot of people
upset because there was a movement to get the elephants
sent to some kind of animal sanctuary where they'd have
a lot of room to wander around, and now they've
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ended up in Tulsa. No word on what the elephants
think of this. We will talk to Daniel Gus because
it's caused quite an uproar, but secondly, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
To my mind. Even more interesting is the.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Is that there's a apparently an investigation going on.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There is an organization called Galaza.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let me just call this hold on, let me get
this up on my screen here, so I get the
details because somehow it disappeared. Yes, GLAZA is the Greater
Los Angeles Zoo Association, and they've made some serious allegations
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against Denise Verret, the zoo director. This is another Karen
Bess appointee. Denise Verrett, they claim is spending tens of
thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars on stuff
that has nothing to do with animals. I'll just give
you a few examples. There was twenty two thousand dollars
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that the zoo animals were supposed to get. Instead it
went to a private party to celebrate her appointment as
zoo director, twenty seven five hundred for an office upgrade
three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. So Denise Verrett
and her staff can travel around the world. Well, it
sounds like that insurance commissioner Ricardo Laara. That's all they
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do is they take tax money or donated money and
they go traveling all over the place, and uh and
more and on and on. I'll let Daniel tell you
but that that that's what's coming up. So we'll talk
about the the elephants being whisked off and sentenced to
life in Tulsa. And then uh this this uh, this
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head of the zoo sending hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Uh and apparently everybody who knows her is enjoying themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Is there anybody who's clean? Anybody?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
US Attorney's Office announced this week this is UH Bill A. Sale,
who we've had on the show many times, former legislator
and now Trump named him the uh the at US
attorney for the Los Angeles District, and he announced this
week Operation Guardian Angel and the US Attorney's Office are
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now they are now going to work with ICE and
the Border Patrol and Homeland Security and the DA and
the FBI and the ATF and the agencies are going
to get around sanctuary city policies in Los Angeles and
go through the criminal databases every day and they're going
to find illegal aliens who are arrested and jailed the
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day before, and it will leave no question that the
illegal aliens committed crimes, and the DOJ can charge them
with it misdemeanor or felony, illegal entry or re entry.
The felons and the county jails would get federal warrants,
and that would block that would block the state from
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releasing them, and now that they would have felony charges
against them, they would then be deported. And they have
been doing this since May the tenth. In five days,
thirteen defendants were arrested. You know, I've been waiting for
this forever. I've always thoughts, if you put in enough effort,
you're the federal government. These are federal charges. You ought
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to be able to get into local jails, county jails,
and state prisons and get these guys out and get
them deported, because the federal jurisdictions always trump the local jurisdictions. Like,
screw this sanctuary city nonsense. Legally, there's no such thing.
There isn't. You can't declare yourself a sanctuary from federal law.
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It's total nonsense. It just depends how hard the federal
government wants to fight these idiots, these these destructive more
on progressives, and go in there and grab the prisoners
right out of the jail, right out of the prison,
or block their there's a million and a half illegal immigrants.
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When somebody complains, it's like, you know, we've got a
housing shortage here, you know, and Matrealia, it's two crowded. Well,
there's a million and a half illegal aliens living in
the jurisdiction of the Central District, which is the US
Attorney's governing area, and this is the counties of Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside,
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San Bernardino, San Luis, Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventre. Basically
kfi's main coverage area are those six counties, seven counties.
So if there's a million and a half extra people
here who shouldn't legally be here, what do you think
that's going to do to housing? How much space do
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you think an extra million and a half people take up?
What do you think that does to the price of
real estate and the price of rents? What do you
think that does to the traffic? There's a million and
a half extra people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That shouldn't be here. I don't really understand.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Why is it so Why the probably, why the rents
so high?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, why do you think.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's stuff a million and a half people into your
neighborhood and see what happens. So anyway, saleh has has
come up with this idea, and uh sale said, well,
the state could ignore immigration detainer requests, they could not
ignore federal arrest warrants. So that's what a sale is
going to unleash your federal arrest warrants. Warrants are you
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can't argue with a detainer is one thing? A warrant
you have to salute and obey. All right, more coming up,
Daniel Guss. The LA Zoo is uh, I don't know
what what's going on? Why is everything falling apart? Why
is everything and why is everybody spending and diverting tax
money and donor money and everyone's traveling. Now we have
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a fight between the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. They're
saying the director of the LA Zoo, Denise Verrett, has
taken hundreds of thousands of dollars and spent it on
a lot of stuff she shouldn't. And Daniel Guss is
gonna tell us about that. And also what happened to
Billy and Tina, the two Asian elephants who were in
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La and now apparently they're in Tulsa. A lot of
intrigue and scandal going on at the LA Zoo.
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Speaker 3 (19:39):
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like almost too much going on, and now even the zoo,
even the La Zoo is hit by corruption. We're gonna
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Daniel guss On Daniel Gus dot substack dot com. That's
his news site and he's on with us frequently. There
are two zoo stories. One you may have heard about one.
Daniel is just broke a short time ago. Number one story.
Let's get Daniel on.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hey, John? Thanks for having me back. And yeah, no, nobody,
nobody in city Hall is clean of anything going on.
You can trust nothing.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I know, I'll get to the greater Los Angeles. Yeah,
the corruption story in just a moment. Let's talk about
Billy and Tina, because that story has been everywhere for
several days. The two Asian elephants that lived at the
La Zoo for years and now apparently they woke up
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in Tilson.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What happened here, well, for.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
A very long time. People who know that keeping elephants
who are very social creatures in such tiny confines is
cruel and it leads to, among other things, brain damage
and head bobbing signs of stress in elephant life and
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now that the that Los Angeles is in such dire
financial straits. Finally, the city Hall, Karen Bass and all
who work under her name, decided instead of sending them
to a sanctuary Billy and Tina, which would give them
much greater freedom and the protection of a sanctuary, they
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sent them to another zoo in Tulsa. And they did
it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
They elephant napped Billy and Tina and what loaded them
in the back of a truck.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They probably gave them a very stiff drink and sent
them on what is reportedly a twenty six hour transfer
with no open debate, and only Bob Blumenfield on City
Council actually said, Hey, let's tap the brakes and figure
out if this is the best option for them. And
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it's so much worse John, because Karen Bass lied in
her release as to why. Karen Bass, in a release
justifying the move of the elephants to another zoo in
Tulsa rather than a sanctuary, said that they could remain together. Well,
guess what, Karen Bass, Billy and Tina have never been together.
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They have been separate in separate enclosures for the entirety
of their times in the La Zoo. So even in
justifying this cruel move, Karen Bass is still lying they
have never been together because Billy is intact.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
All I say, Billy would be jumping out on Tina.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Perhaps, or she's good looking. Of course she's good life.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Do you tell a good looking elephant?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You have to ask the other elephants.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, well, all right, now let me read you from me.
Let me read you from the La Times. Not that
I believe anything that's in the Times, but it was
the size of the enclosure at the Tulsa Zoo. They
claim it's one hundred and thirty acres of space, and
at thirty six thousand square foot barn, there's five other
Asian elephants there, and yeah, Billy and Tina could stay together.
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So they repeated that is any of that true? It's
one hundred and thirty acres of space?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Is that enough? Is that a lot?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I don't know anything about storing elephants. I don't have
one at all, so I don't know what you need.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
This is the easy one for me, John. The La
Times got it wrong. What a fucking surprise. The La
Times got it wrong. It's like seventeen acres. And if
you hit refresh on that, the La Times after the
fact acknowledge it's like seventeen acres, so the La Times.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So it's not one hundred seventeen.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, it's not even close. It's not even close. So
who at the La Times decided, Gee, we're just gonna
take the whatever the mayor's office tells us. They didn't
even get that right. So the justification for steeping them
together was a false premise. Billy and Tina were never together,
and the La Times got it wrong that the space
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at the at the Tulsa Zoo is roughly a tenth
of what the La Times originally reported it to be,
because they know that the only thing people see is
the first thing they read, not the correction later on.
So lie after lie from Bath and the La Times.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good luck finding a correction on the La Times website.
You can't find it correct. You can't find anything on
the Times website the way it's laid out, all right,
So that's a load of crap.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But I guess it's what's done is done now.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It looks like these elephants have been sentenced to life
in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you know, nothing is ever completely done. It's certainly
gonna be a lot more difficult now to do the
right thing.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Hold on, I got to interrupt you a second. Hold on,
because I found out. Wow, you are absolutely right. I'm
holding the print out of the La Times story from
earlier this morning where it says the Tulsa zood has
over one hundred and eighty over one hundred and thirty
acres of space. Now I go to the online article,
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it says about seventeen acres of space. Wow, right, they
missed by one hundred and thirteen acres.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, let's let let's look at the numbers a different way.
They missed by nine hundred percent. Maybe I mean they missed.
Now who at the La Times was so eager to
get this story out that they didn't verify what they
were being told, either by the zoo or by Bath's office.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, because you know, when I read it, I'm thought, well,
why is this such a ruckus in terms of space?
Because one hundred and thirty acres. Again, I'm not an
eleph expert. One hundred thirty acres seems like a lot
for two elephants. So whatever, The problem is it's not
that they don't have space now like you said, while
they exaggerated it by nine hundred percent, it's really seventeen acres, right,
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and the.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Fact that they were never together to begin with. So
what in the hell is going on with Karen Bass?
And as you know, I thank God for ray Man
because I flung this second story today at you and
him at the last minute. There is a wonderful advocate
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for humane issues, not the far flung you know, Delta
smelt kind of stuff, but a woman by the name
of Judy Mancusto who has an organization called Social Compassion
in Legislation where they really get to the roots of
logical humane laws.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, let's do that. Let's do that in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Can you hang on sure, because Michael Kurser do the
news and then we'll talk about Judy Mankusha. Like you said,
Social Compassion and Legislation. She is accusing the director of
the La Zoo, Denise Barrett, of diverting hundreds of thousands
of dollars, maybe millions of dollars to all kinds of
strange things, including her own travel, her office upgrades, a
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private party in her honor a lot of travel.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So we'll get to this.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Ye, it's worse than that, John, But let me be clear,
it's not Judy Mancuso who's making the allegation. She sent
out a press release and she shared the allegations from
the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. We'll get to that
after the break.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
At three o'clock, we are going to have Dan Dow on.
We had him on a few weeks ago because the
Parole Board is going to let could be letting Ali
Brown out, who's serving a life sentence for murder. Allie
Brown used to be Herbert Brown. You see what's going
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on here. The person he murdered was this twenty two
month old baby, Lily. Newsom has two days to reverse
the parole Board's decision.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Two days.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Dan dall the prosecutor District Attorney, is going to be
coming on about that case. All right, let's go back
to Daniel Gus the la zoos and all kinds of turmoil.
The two elephants, Billy and Tina were kidnapped and taking
to Tulsa and it's a small zoo a long way
from here, and apparently there's just a lot of lies
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in drama swirling around Billy and Tina.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But I want to get to this.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
This is a news story that you posted a short
time ago, and you say that Judy Mancuso, who runs
Social Compassion and Legislation, and the Greater Los Angeles Zoo
Association are using the director of the La Zoo, Denise Barett,
of looks like misappropriating a lot of money. Can you
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get into the details of these charges that's laid out
by the by GLAZA, Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Sure, Now, Judy mccuzo, I've known her for many, many
years and her word is gold on this stuff. She
doesn't put out garbage. She sent out a press release
today identifying a sworn testimony by GLAZA, which is called
the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. Betty White was affiliated
with them for many years. But basically they solicited donations
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for the betterment of the existence of the animals at
the zoo. I'm not a fan of the zoo, but
a lot of this money, the Low Hanging Fruit John
is tens of thousands of dollars spent on a party
for Denise Farett, Aaron Bass's zoo director. The low hanging
is office furniture for Denise Verrett. The bigger problems that
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I think Bill a Sale, if this can get on
his radar, may want to look forward to look towards,
is hundreds of thousands of dollars of donated funds spent
on travel for Verrett's staff. Okay, if you want to
say they had to look at this zoo or that zoo,
that's one thing. But Verrett, allegedly, according to GLAZA, diverted
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one point seven million dollars to outside organizations non affiliated
with the betterment and the welfare of the animals at
the zoo, including organizations where Denise Verrett sat on their
board of directors, including four hundred and forty nine thousand,
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five hundred dollars to AZY eight called the American Zoo Association.
Now here's the nexus, John, just for your audience. The AZA,
not GLAZA, but the American Zoo Association, which received almost
four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in donated funds, said oh,
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the best place for Billy and Tina to go to
is the Tulsa Zoo. So AZA got four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to choose and tell the Mayor's office
Tulls is the best place to go. But the person
who gave them that money, Denise Verrett, allegedly is on
their board. That's a conflict of interest. It might be criminal,
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I don't know. And it's worse than that. John. When
Denise Verrett went to city council recently to talk about
how much money the zoo needs to stay afloat, she
never told city council about its access to these donated funds. So,
according to GLAZA, as opposed to the American Zoo Association,
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Denise Verret withheld an enormous sum of money available to
the zoo and didn't disclose it to city council in
their very intensive budget talks going now, So this is
taking out one card from this house of cards and
it's collapsing before our very eyes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You talked about the travel uh Glaza. GLAZA is claiming
that Denise Verrett diverted over three hundred and sixty five
thousand dollars so she and her staff could travel around
the world. This money was supposed to go for the
animals instead, Verret and her staff traveled to Buenos Aires,
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the Canary Islands, Sydney, Australia, Botswana. I mean it's it's
an incredible racket, is what it is. I mean, I
mean people who donate money to a zoo expected to
go almost entirely for the animals, and it seemed to
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it entirely for Denise Veratt and her her travel dreams.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right. And by the way, this is nothing new. For years,
I've said that the city's Karen Bess is deadly animal
pounds LA Animal Services. They took more than a million
dollars for a website rebuild and where is the investigation
into that. So this is a practice that's gone on
in the city and Karen Bass is deadly dog and
cat pounds. That's now been happening all along, all along,
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off the radar at the LA Zoo, and so they
had been lying about it. They treated like an ATM.
And from what I'm hearing now from my sources, a
lot of people who've fledged money to the zoo are
not only clawing it back, they're taking the La Zoo
out of their wills as they should.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know what, people don't want to be suckers.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You've been giving money to the La Zoo, or at
least you know, to these organizations. You're a sucker, sure,
I mean at twenty two thousand dollars and he's Verrett
spent in a private party to celebrate herself becoming zoo director,
twenty seven thousand for office upgrades, thirteen thousand for her
own office, fourteen thousand for her assistant's office, and then
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three hundred and sixty five thousand for world travel and
then the million seven you mentioned to outside organizations where
she sits on the board of directors.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This is like a massive money laundering scam, right and in.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
An instance of of no honor among these, she allegedly
lies the city council about their budgetary needs. And so
where is the accountability? And you know what, you know what?
Just you know it's the cherry on top John. When
TMZ called Karen Bass's office to speak to the nitwitth
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deputy mayor by the name of Jackie Hamilton. By the way,
her real name is Jacqueline, but she hates being called Jackie,
so that's why I call her Jackie. She hates being
called Hi, Jackie Hamilton. And you I want to respond
to my questions, you're Jackie Hamilton. Jackie Hamilton allegedly hung
up on t m Z when they called to find
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out is this true? Did you did you sneak the
animals away in the middle of the night, so she
hung up on them. So this is a gigantic middle
finger from Karen Bass to all of La and anybody
who ever gave a damn about animals, dogs, cats, or elephants.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
What is the proper way to transfer the animals to Tulsa?
I mean, what's the protocol for doing this?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's not an issue of the proper what what I mean,
the transportation would have to be done, whether they're going there.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Saying I'm saying there's a there's a there's an uproar
that they've been transferred to Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Like, who gets to make that call? Is it just
Karen Bass?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Ultimately she decides, yeah, Tulsa because her friend got contacts there.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, well, well apparently so because well not Karen Bass.
When when Verrett was speaking to city Council, the Mayor's office,
and everybody on city Council other than Bob Bloomenfield, who
has condemned, he put out a press release a short
while ago condemning this move. Apparently it was the sole
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discretion of Denise Verrett. But basically that's with Jackie Hamilton
and Karen Vass's letting her do it. The point is,
why why would you send two elephants who clearly need
to go to sanctuary. Why in the world would you
do this. Why in the world would everybody other than
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Bob Bloomenfield on City Council not say, hey, you know what,
we should tap the brakes and we should find out
what this is going on. So absolutely everybody on City
Council other than Bob Bloomenfield is responsible for this and that,
and nothing is done there without Marquis Harris Dawson. So
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they are all in on it other than Bloomenfield. And
I think this needs a much deeper dig because just
like everything else, John, the whole damn thing is corrupt.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Daniel Gus, thank you for coming on, and you go
to Daniel Gusk dot substack dot com and read all
about it. All right, we'll talk soon. Thanks, thank you
so much. All Right, right after three o'clock we're gonna
have Dan Dow, the district attorney. He has been on
before about the case of a murderer who originally was
(37:28):
named Herbert Brown and then became Ali Brown, became a woman,
and he's serving a life sentence. He murdered his twenty
two month old baby, Lily, and the pro board said
he can get out. This is the San Louis Obispo
District Attorney Governor k news him as two days to stop.
(37:48):
The parole hasn't said anything about it yet. We'll talk
with Dan du the DA come up coming up next,
and we've got Michael Krozer live in the KFI twenty
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(38:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:02):
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We're on every day from one until four, and every
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Let's get right to it, because Carl has a lot
going on. Carl Demyo is the Republican Assemblyman. Most recently
(00:22):
he was able to force the Assembly and soon the
Senate and Governor Newsom to sign legislation that makes buying
a sixteen or seventeen year old for sex a felony. Really,
it wasn't up until this point, not an automatic one.
Now he's taking on Newsom and the illegal alien healthcare racket,
(00:48):
where we're spending now twelve billion dollars on cradle to
grave legal alien healthcare. No other state is spending any
money on that. The federal government won't spend any.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Money on it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So what might be going on, Well, it might be
the California is taking federal money and spending it on
a legal alien health care. Anyway, let's get Carl DeMaio
on to talk about what he's discovered.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Any thanks, for having me on what have you found out?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Because you will what was reported in the media last
week was a lie. Governor Gavin Knewso unveiled a budget
that finally admitted that what we told you back in
January that the state has a twelve billion dollar budget
deficit last January, just four months ago, he said it
was quote a modest surplus, and at my first budget
(01:41):
committee hearing before I was thrown off, we unveiled the
evidence that there was a budget deficit. So he comes
out and confirms what we said in January twelve billion
dollar deficit. And the reason why he didn't want you
to know there was a deficit in January was because
he wants to blame it all on Trump, because if
the deficit existed before Trump was sworn into office, then
he can't call it the Trump swamps. It's not because
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of Trump. It's really because of the reckless management of
Democrats and the governor in the state of California. But
worse worse, that twelve billion dollar deficit is caused entirely
by the illegal immigrant health care costs, which is twelve
point one billion, So we're twelve billion dollars short. Twelve
point one billion of that is illegal immigrant free healthcare.
(02:28):
And he said during his press conference that he was
going to quote cut the illegal immigrant health care and
pause it. Well, hold on a second. A cut would
define it as reducing what we're spending. Instead, our budget
is going from nine point five billion this year for
illegal immigrant free healthcare to twelve point one billion next year.
That's not a cut, that's an increase. And this guy
(02:50):
says that he's going to pause any new enrollments in
the program, but even his own numbers show that we're
going to be covering one hundred thousand more illegal immigrants
next year year in his plan for free health care.
So the media got it wrong. The media lied or
got bamboozled, and Newsom is fully going to fund and
(03:12):
continue this giveaway. And the big problem that we're seeing
is that we don't have the money to cover all
these illegal immigrants, and that means that citizens here in
California will have to go without. They've already cut hospice,
they've cut developmentally disabled home health care. You're going to
have a longer wait time for doctors and nurses. Doctors,
(03:35):
nurses and hospitals are not going to get reimbursed on
a timely basis, adding financial strain to the system. This
is going to jeopardize the health coverage for the mediast
of California citizens in order to give freebies to people
who shouldn't be here in the first place.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So legal residents, American citizens who are poor and need
medical they're getting screwed in favor of all these benefits
for the illegal aliens. I mean, that is just just unconscionable.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, and they sat there at the hearing saying that
illegal immigrants shouldn't be penalized for Donald Trump's cuts. Remember,
the federal government doesn't reimburse for illegal immigrants to begin with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There are no cuts because they don't give you any money.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
There's nothing a cut exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
But what they're saying, what they're not saying out loud,
but what they're inferring is that they know that they
are illegally using federal funds to cover illegal immigrant healthcare.
And then when Donald Trump comes back through the Department
of Health and Human Services and says, sorry, we audited
your invoices. You spend money on people who are not
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eligible under federal law for health coverage. We have to
claw back this money. They're turning around and blaming Trump
for follow the law. Do you understand how how dishonest
these people are? And this is nothing more than gaslighting
these people are. Now they passed a resolution on Monday
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condemning Donald Trump for creating a crisis in medical and
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, this is like the devil.
This is like the devil complaining that about sin. You know,
it's the Democrats of Newsom that have put medical on
the brink of financial collapse through their bad decisions, not
Donald Trump. And yet they're getting away with it with
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the media. The media is parroting these lives. And you
don't have to like Trump, but at least blame Trump
for whatever you want to blame him for correctly. But
when it comes to Medicaid, you need to blame the
Democrats and Gavin Newsom and nobody else.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, that's the burden of one party rule with veto
proof majorities super majorities is in the end, you're responsible.
You're to blame for everything. You can't pot it off
on Republicans because there's not enough of them to make
a difference right now except for you bringing all this
to light.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So do you do you have Do you have a
moment so I can stay with you. The other thing
we uncovered yesterday. So I've been dozing California step by
step and I'm pulling various contracts and grants. We found
one for two point four million dollars. It's a no
big contract to a group called two one one LA.
You may know of them. They're a nonprofit in LA,
(06:31):
but they're a left wing group and they they basically
say that hate crimes are everywhere, and uh, you know,
they have a specific point of view, and that's.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Fine for them.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
They're they have a right to have their point of view.
But two point four million dollars in federal dollars have
gone to them in a no big contract to operate
with the state of California is calling a hate crime hotline,
and this no big contract.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I asked them.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I said, well, how many hate crimes have been prosecuted
because of this hotline in the last two years? The
answer zero. And then I said, well, well, how many
calls or emails or contacts have you received and they said,
well we got two thousand, one hundred and eight eighteen
last year. Well, that's a two point four million dollar contract.
That's one hundred and thirty three dollars and fourteen cents
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per call or email handled, which is roughly five or
six a day. But it gets worse. Of those, most
of them are pranks. Most of them were not about
hate crimes. Only oneenty twenty had anything related to discrimination. Well,
that means it's two thousand, three hundred and fifty two
dollars and ninety four cents per email or call related
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to some sort of discrimination. Oh, but it gets worse.
Of those oney twenty hate related complaints, only about four
out of six of them, or six hundred and eighty
of them, actually resulted in a referral or a recommendation
for services. That's three thowenty nine dollars and forty one
(08:04):
cents per referral. And by the way, what is a referral?
They basically said, well, it sounds like you've been a
victim of a hate crime or some discrimination. Here's an
attorney you may want to talk to, or here is
a brief counselor you should talk to. Again, this is
a this is a two point four million dollar piece
of griff to fund the left wing organization. And I
(08:25):
said at a time when we're cutting things in the budget.
Two point four million may not seem like a lot,
but a lot of this starts adding up. That's just
one of the many contracts that we're shining a light
on in California state government.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, that's the second time I've heard about a hotline
that cost a lot of money. There was one in
La County or La City not too long ago for
sexual harassment and they were getting about eight calls a
year and it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. So
I realized that that is another racket, is a hot
(08:59):
one for some pressing social issue where people are suffering,
and it's just complete not I'd like to see the
salaries of the people in this organization. What are they
paying themselves? That's a story.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I think it's worse.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I think it's worse.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think that there is nothing more than the window
dressing for money laundry. I think what the politicians are
doing is they set up a contract that they know
is to do nothing. Contract and they say, oh, you know,
open up an email account and have a phone number,
and long how many emails or calls you get. But
really what we're doing is we're giving you two point
(09:33):
four million dollars to go out there and agitate and
activate and organize for politics. And again, I have no
problem with the nonprofit doing whatever they want to do,
but not with government money. If they want to raise
their money from private sources and it's called the First Amendment,
but not with government money. I believe that this is
money laundry. I believe that this is not just your
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wasteful spending. I think it's corrupt.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Let me ask you about one more thing here. You
put out a post today that Newsome's budget is cutting
key law enforcement programs.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
What specifically is that.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
About, Oh, he's decided he's going to shut another prison.
So what he's doing in this budget is he's not
funding the implementation of Prop thirty six. This is the
landmark reform measure from last year that voters overwhelmingly approved,
even Los Angeles County voted in favor of it, to
make crime illegal again. But the governor now needs to
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provide funding for the implementation of Prop. Thirty six, and
he chose not to. And part of the funding is
making sure there are enough prison beds for that. When
when we start prosecuting again and sending people to jail
for smashing, grabs and other crimes that we actually can
you put them behind bars, and so he cut funding.
(10:53):
He's shutting another prison. We know that one third of
the prisoners that he released just in the last three
years have been rearrested and prosecuted for additional crimes. And
that's in a state that doesn't do arrests and prosecutions.
So we know that the actual number of crimes that
are being recommitted by these releases are much higher. Everywhere
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you look, this guy is cutting public safety even though
voters clearly stated they want to make crime fighting a
priority again in our state. And I'm hoping that there's
bipartisan support to restore some of these dangerous cuts because
now it's the matter of public safety.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I don't know how long this goes on. Carl Demyele,
thank you for coming on. Great work.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Take care, all right, Carl Demiele, Republican Assemblement. After two thirty,
we're gonna have Daniel guss On. He's got a substack.
You ought to read it. He's got a second story
on the La Zoos situation. You know, the two elephants
were suddenly they're disappeared in the middle of the night,
maybe heading for Tulsa. Daniel will be coming on and
explaining what's happened to the two elephants. How do you
(11:57):
lose two elephants? How do you make them both disappear?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Coming up after two thirty, Daniel Gus with a one
two punch.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Here.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The Los Angeles Zoo had two elephants, Asian elephants, Billy
and Tina, and they're in Tulsa. Now they're at the
Tulsa Zoo and this has got a lot of people
upset because there was a movement to get the elephants
sent to some kind of animal sanctuary where they'd have
a lot of room to wander around, and now they've
(12:36):
ended up in Tulsa. No word on what the elephants
think of this. We will talk to Daniel Gus because
it's caused quite an uproar, but secondly, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
To my mind. Even more interesting is the.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Is that there's a apparently an investigation going on.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
There is an organization called Galaza.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Let me just call this hold on, let me get
this up on my screen here, so I get the
details because somehow it disappeared. Yes, GLAZA is the Greater
Los Angeles Zoo Association, and they've made some serious allegations
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against Denise Verret, the zoo director. This is another Karen
Bess appointee. Denise Verrett, they claim is spending tens of
thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands of dollars on stuff
that has nothing to do with animals. I'll just give
you a few examples. There was twenty two thousand dollars
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that the zoo animals were supposed to get. Instead it
went to a private party to celebrate her appointment as
zoo director, twenty seven five hundred for an office upgrade
three hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. So Denise Verrett
and her staff can travel around the world. Well, it
sounds like that insurance commissioner Ricardo Laara. That's all they
(14:06):
do is they take tax money or donated money and
they go traveling all over the place, and uh and
more and on and on. I'll let Daniel tell you
but that that that's what's coming up. So we'll talk
about the the elephants being whisked off and sentenced to
life in Tulsa. And then uh this this uh, this
(14:28):
head of the zoo sending hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Uh and apparently everybody who knows her is enjoying themselves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Is there anybody who's clean? Anybody?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
US Attorney's Office announced this week this is UH Bill A. Sale,
who we've had on the show many times, former legislator
and now Trump named him the uh the at US
attorney for the Los Angeles District, and he announced this
week Operation Guardian Angel and the US Attorney's Office are
(15:12):
now they are now going to work with ICE and
the Border Patrol and Homeland Security and the DA and
the FBI and the ATF and the agencies are going
to get around sanctuary city policies in Los Angeles and
go through the criminal databases every day and they're going
to find illegal aliens who are arrested and jailed the
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day before, and it will leave no question that the
illegal aliens committed crimes, and the DOJ can charge them
with it misdemeanor or felony, illegal entry or re entry.
The felons and the county jails would get federal warrants,
and that would block that would block the state from
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releasing them, and now that they would have felony charges
against them, they would then be deported. And they have
been doing this since May the tenth. In five days,
thirteen defendants were arrested. You know, I've been waiting for
this forever. I've always thoughts, if you put in enough effort,
you're the federal government. These are federal charges. You ought
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to be able to get into local jails, county jails,
and state prisons and get these guys out and get
them deported, because the federal jurisdictions always trump the local jurisdictions. Like,
screw this sanctuary city nonsense. Legally, there's no such thing.
There isn't. You can't declare yourself a sanctuary from federal law.
(16:43):
It's total nonsense. It just depends how hard the federal
government wants to fight these idiots, these these destructive more
on progressives, and go in there and grab the prisoners
right out of the jail, right out of the prison,
or block their there's a million and a half illegal immigrants.
(17:05):
When somebody complains, it's like, you know, we've got a
housing shortage here, you know, and Matrealia, it's two crowded. Well,
there's a million and a half illegal aliens living in
the jurisdiction of the Central District, which is the US
Attorney's governing area, and this is the counties of Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside,
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San Bernardino, San Luis, Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventre. Basically
kfi's main coverage area are those six counties, seven counties.
So if there's a million and a half extra people
here who shouldn't legally be here, what do you think
that's going to do to housing? How much space do
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you think an extra million and a half people take up?
What do you think that does to the price of
real estate and the price of rents? What do you
think that does to the traffic? There's a million and
a half extra people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That shouldn't be here. I don't really understand.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Why is it so Why the probably, why the rents
so high?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, why do you think.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's stuff a million and a half people into your
neighborhood and see what happens. So anyway, saleh has has
come up with this idea, and uh sale said, well,
the state could ignore immigration detainer requests, they could not
ignore federal arrest warrants. So that's what a sale is
going to unleash your federal arrest warrants. Warrants are you
(18:41):
can't argue with a detainer is one thing? A warrant
you have to salute and obey. All right, more coming up,
Daniel Guss. The LA Zoo is uh, I don't know
what what's going on? Why is everything falling apart? Why
is everything and why is everybody spending and diverting tax
money and donor money and everyone's traveling. Now we have
(19:05):
a fight between the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. They're
saying the director of the LA Zoo, Denise Verrett, has
taken hundreds of thousands of dollars and spent it on
a lot of stuff she shouldn't. And Daniel Guss is
gonna tell us about that. And also what happened to
Billy and Tina, the two Asian elephants who were in
(19:26):
La and now apparently they're in Tulsa. A lot of
intrigue and scandal going on at the LA Zoo.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
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like almost too much going on, and now even the zoo,
even the La Zoo is hit by corruption. We're gonna
(20:00):
Daniel guss On Daniel Gus dot substack dot com. That's
his news site and he's on with us frequently. There
are two zoo stories. One you may have heard about one.
Daniel is just broke a short time ago. Number one story.
Let's get Daniel on.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
How are you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hey, John? Thanks for having me back. And yeah, no, nobody,
nobody in city Hall is clean of anything going on.
You can trust nothing.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I know, I'll get to the greater Los Angeles. Yeah,
the corruption story in just a moment. Let's talk about
Billy and Tina, because that story has been everywhere for
several days. The two Asian elephants that lived at the
La Zoo for years and now apparently they woke up
(20:54):
in Tilson.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What happened here, well, for.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
A very long time. People who know that keeping elephants
who are very social creatures in such tiny confines is
cruel and it leads to, among other things, brain damage
and head bobbing signs of stress in elephant life and
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now that the that Los Angeles is in such dire
financial straits. Finally, the city Hall, Karen Bass and all
who work under her name, decided instead of sending them
to a sanctuary Billy and Tina, which would give them
much greater freedom and the protection of a sanctuary, they
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sent them to another zoo in Tulsa. And they did
it in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
They elephant napped Billy and Tina and what loaded them
in the back of a truck.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
They probably gave them a very stiff drink and sent
them on what is reportedly a twenty six hour transfer
with no open debate, and only Bob Blumenfield on City
Council actually said, Hey, let's tap the brakes and figure
out if this is the best option for them. And
(22:14):
it's so much worse John, because Karen Bass lied in
her release as to why. Karen Bass, in a release
justifying the move of the elephants to another zoo in
Tulsa rather than a sanctuary, said that they could remain together. Well,
guess what, Karen Bass, Billy and Tina have never been together.
(22:38):
They have been separate in separate enclosures for the entirety
of their times in the La Zoo. So even in
justifying this cruel move, Karen Bass is still lying they
have never been together because Billy is intact.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
All I say, Billy would be jumping out on Tina.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Perhaps, or she's good looking. Of course she's good life.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Do you tell a good looking elephant?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You have to ask the other elephants.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, well, all right, now let me read you from me.
Let me read you from the La Times. Not that
I believe anything that's in the Times, but it was
the size of the enclosure at the Tulsa Zoo. They
claim it's one hundred and thirty acres of space, and
at thirty six thousand square foot barn, there's five other
Asian elephants there, and yeah, Billy and Tina could stay together.
(23:32):
So they repeated that is any of that true? It's
one hundred and thirty acres of space?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Is that enough? Is that a lot?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I don't know anything about storing elephants. I don't have
one at all, so I don't know what you need.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
This is the easy one for me, John. The La
Times got it wrong. What a fucking surprise. The La
Times got it wrong. It's like seventeen acres. And if
you hit refresh on that, the La Times after the
fact acknowledge it's like seventeen acres, so the La Times.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So it's not one hundred seventeen.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, it's not even close. It's not even close. So
who at the La Times decided, Gee, we're just gonna
take the whatever the mayor's office tells us. They didn't
even get that right. So the justification for steeping them
together was a false premise. Billy and Tina were never together,
and the La Times got it wrong that the space
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at the at the Tulsa Zoo is roughly a tenth
of what the La Times originally reported it to be,
because they know that the only thing people see is
the first thing they read, not the correction later on.
So lie after lie from Bath and the La Times.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Good luck finding a correction on the La Times website.
You can't find it correct. You can't find anything on
the Times website the way it's laid out, all right,
So that's a load of crap.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But I guess it's what's done is done now.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It looks like these elephants have been sentenced to life
in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Well, you know, nothing is ever completely done. It's certainly
gonna be a lot more difficult now to do the
right thing.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Hold on, I got to interrupt you a second. Hold on,
because I found out. Wow, you are absolutely right. I'm
holding the print out of the La Times story from
earlier this morning where it says the Tulsa zood has
over one hundred and eighty over one hundred and thirty
acres of space. Now I go to the online article,
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it says about seventeen acres of space. Wow, right, they
missed by one hundred and thirteen acres.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, let's let let's look at the numbers a different way.
They missed by nine hundred percent. Maybe I mean they missed.
Now who at the La Times was so eager to
get this story out that they didn't verify what they
were being told, either by the zoo or by Bath's office.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, because you know, when I read it, I'm thought, well,
why is this such a ruckus in terms of space?
Because one hundred and thirty acres. Again, I'm not an
eleph expert. One hundred thirty acres seems like a lot
for two elephants. So whatever, The problem is it's not
that they don't have space now like you said, while
they exaggerated it by nine hundred percent, it's really seventeen acres, right,
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and the.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Fact that they were never together to begin with. So
what in the hell is going on with Karen Bass?
And as you know, I thank God for ray Man
because I flung this second story today at you and
him at the last minute. There is a wonderful advocate
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for humane issues, not the far flung you know, Delta
smelt kind of stuff, but a woman by the name
of Judy Mancusto who has an organization called Social Compassion
in Legislation where they really get to the roots of
logical humane laws.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, let's do that. Let's do that in the next segment.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Can you hang on sure, because Michael Kurser do the
news and then we'll talk about Judy Mankusha. Like you said,
Social Compassion and Legislation. She is accusing the director of
the La Zoo, Denise Barrett, of diverting hundreds of thousands
of dollars, maybe millions of dollars to all kinds of
strange things, including her own travel, her office upgrades, a
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private party in her honor a lot of travel.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So we'll get to this.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Ye, it's worse than that, John, But let me be clear,
it's not Judy Mancuso who's making the allegation. She sent
out a press release and she shared the allegations from
the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. We'll get to that
after the break.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
At three o'clock, we are going to have Dan Dow on.
We had him on a few weeks ago because the
Parole Board is going to let could be letting Ali
Brown out, who's serving a life sentence for murder. Allie
Brown used to be Herbert Brown. You see what's going
(28:08):
on here. The person he murdered was this twenty two
month old baby, Lily. Newsom has two days to reverse
the parole Board's decision.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Two days.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Dan dall the prosecutor District Attorney, is going to be
coming on about that case. All right, let's go back
to Daniel Gus the la zoos and all kinds of turmoil.
The two elephants, Billy and Tina were kidnapped and taking
to Tulsa and it's a small zoo a long way
from here, and apparently there's just a lot of lies
(28:41):
in drama swirling around Billy and Tina.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But I want to get to this.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
This is a news story that you posted a short
time ago, and you say that Judy Mancuso, who runs
Social Compassion and Legislation, and the Greater Los Angeles Zoo
Association are using the director of the La Zoo, Denise Barett,
of looks like misappropriating a lot of money. Can you
(29:09):
get into the details of these charges that's laid out
by the by GLAZA, Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Sure, Now, Judy mccuzo, I've known her for many, many
years and her word is gold on this stuff. She
doesn't put out garbage. She sent out a press release
today identifying a sworn testimony by GLAZA, which is called
the Greater Los Angeles Zoo Association. Betty White was affiliated
with them for many years. But basically they solicited donations
(29:41):
for the betterment of the existence of the animals at
the zoo. I'm not a fan of the zoo, but
a lot of this money, the Low Hanging Fruit John
is tens of thousands of dollars spent on a party
for Denise Farett, Aaron Bass's zoo director. The low hanging
is office furniture for Denise Verrett. The bigger problems that
(30:06):
I think Bill a Sale, if this can get on
his radar, may want to look forward to look towards,
is hundreds of thousands of dollars of donated funds spent
on travel for Verrett's staff. Okay, if you want to
say they had to look at this zoo or that zoo,
that's one thing. But Verrett, allegedly, according to GLAZA, diverted
(30:31):
one point seven million dollars to outside organizations non affiliated
with the betterment and the welfare of the animals at
the zoo, including organizations where Denise Verrett sat on their
board of directors, including four hundred and forty nine thousand,
(30:52):
five hundred dollars to AZY eight called the American Zoo Association.
Now here's the nexus, John, just for your audience. The AZA,
not GLAZA, but the American Zoo Association, which received almost
four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in donated funds, said oh,
(31:13):
the best place for Billy and Tina to go to
is the Tulsa Zoo. So AZA got four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to choose and tell the Mayor's office
Tulls is the best place to go. But the person
who gave them that money, Denise Verrett, allegedly is on
their board. That's a conflict of interest. It might be criminal,
(31:38):
I don't know. And it's worse than that. John. When
Denise Verrett went to city council recently to talk about
how much money the zoo needs to stay afloat, she
never told city council about its access to these donated funds. So,
according to GLAZA, as opposed to the American Zoo Association,
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Denise Verret withheld an enormous sum of money available to
the zoo and didn't disclose it to city council in
their very intensive budget talks going now, So this is
taking out one card from this house of cards and
it's collapsing before our very eyes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You talked about the travel uh Glaza. GLAZA is claiming
that Denise Verrett diverted over three hundred and sixty five
thousand dollars so she and her staff could travel around
the world. This money was supposed to go for the
animals instead, Verret and her staff traveled to Buenos Aires,
(32:42):
the Canary Islands, Sydney, Australia, Botswana. I mean it's it's
an incredible racket, is what it is. I mean, I
mean people who donate money to a zoo expected to
go almost entirely for the animals, and it seemed to
(33:02):
it entirely for Denise Veratt and her her travel dreams.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right. And by the way, this is nothing new. For years,
I've said that the city's Karen Bess is deadly animal
pounds LA Animal Services. They took more than a million
dollars for a website rebuild and where is the investigation
into that. So this is a practice that's gone on
in the city and Karen Bass is deadly dog and
cat pounds. That's now been happening all along, all along,
(33:32):
off the radar at the LA Zoo, and so they
had been lying about it. They treated like an ATM.
And from what I'm hearing now from my sources, a
lot of people who've fledged money to the zoo are
not only clawing it back, they're taking the La Zoo
out of their wills as they should.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know what, people don't want to be suckers.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You've been giving money to the La Zoo, or at
least you know, to these organizations. You're a sucker, sure,
I mean at twenty two thousand dollars and he's Verrett
spent in a private party to celebrate herself becoming zoo director,
twenty seven thousand for office upgrades, thirteen thousand for her
own office, fourteen thousand for her assistant's office, and then
(34:15):
three hundred and sixty five thousand for world travel and
then the million seven you mentioned to outside organizations where
she sits on the board of directors.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
This is like a massive money laundering scam, right and in.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
An instance of of no honor among these, she allegedly
lies the city council about their budgetary needs. And so
where is the accountability? And you know what, you know what?
Just you know it's the cherry on top John. When
TMZ called Karen Bass's office to speak to the nitwitth
(34:48):
deputy mayor by the name of Jackie Hamilton. By the way,
her real name is Jacqueline, but she hates being called Jackie,
so that's why I call her Jackie. She hates being
called Hi, Jackie Hamilton. And you I want to respond
to my questions, you're Jackie Hamilton. Jackie Hamilton allegedly hung
up on t m Z when they called to find
(35:09):
out is this true? Did you did you sneak the
animals away in the middle of the night, so she
hung up on them. So this is a gigantic middle
finger from Karen Bass to all of La and anybody
who ever gave a damn about animals, dogs, cats, or elephants.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
What is the proper way to transfer the animals to Tulsa?
I mean, what's the protocol for doing this?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
It's not an issue of the proper what what I mean,
the transportation would have to be done, whether they're going there.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Saying I'm saying there's a there's a there's an uproar
that they've been transferred to Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Like, who gets to make that call? Is it just
Karen Bass?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Ultimately she decides, yeah, Tulsa because her friend got contacts there.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, well, well apparently so because well not Karen Bass.
When when Verrett was speaking to city Council, the Mayor's office,
and everybody on city Council other than Bob Bloomenfield, who
has condemned, he put out a press release a short
while ago condemning this move. Apparently it was the sole
(36:15):
discretion of Denise Verrett. But basically that's with Jackie Hamilton
and Karen Vass's letting her do it. The point is,
why why would you send two elephants who clearly need
to go to sanctuary. Why in the world would you
do this. Why in the world would everybody other than
(36:35):
Bob Bloomenfield on City Council not say, hey, you know what,
we should tap the brakes and we should find out
what this is going on. So absolutely everybody on City
Council other than Bob Bloomenfield is responsible for this and that,
and nothing is done there without Marquis Harris Dawson. So
(36:56):
they are all in on it other than Bloomenfield. And
I think this needs a much deeper dig because just
like everything else, John, the whole damn thing is corrupt.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Daniel Gus, thank you for coming on, and you go
to Daniel Gusk dot substack dot com and read all
about it. All right, we'll talk soon. Thanks, thank you
so much. All Right, right after three o'clock we're gonna
have Dan Dow, the district attorney. He has been on
before about the case of a murderer who originally was
(37:28):
named Herbert Brown and then became Ali Brown, became a woman,
and he's serving a life sentence. He murdered his twenty
two month old baby, Lily, and the pro board said
he can get out. This is the San Louis Obispo
District Attorney Governor k news him as two days to stop.
(37:48):
The parole hasn't said anything about it yet. We'll talk
with Dan du the DA come up coming up next,
and we've got Michael Krozer live in the KFI twenty
four hour News. Hey, you've been listening to the John
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