August 29, 2025 • 36 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (08/29) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Alex Gangitano comes on the show to talk about Pres. Trump pulling Kamala Harris's Secret Service detail. More on Pres. Trump pulling Kamala Harris's Secret Service detail. Newsom says ICE is going to block voting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today. John back with us.
On Tuesday, President Trump has ended secret Service protection for
former Vice president Kamala Harris. Alex Gngitano is with the Hill.
It's the big story. They're back in DC.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
But he didn't pull it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It ended on its own and it was extended, but
he ended the extension.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Phillis and Alex, Yeah, that's right. So basically, vice presidents
get security protection for six months after leaving office, so
that puts her at July for when that would end,
as opposed to presidents who have Secret Service for the
rest of their lives. That's only you know, a small
group of people. But before President Biden left office, he
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signed a directive that basically extended vice president's security the
Vice President Harris's security clearance for another year. So that's
what President Trump threw a memo on Thursday, rescinded and
said six months is enough. You're done with your security clearance.
And you know it comes after we've seen him revoke
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other protective details for Hunter Biden. Ashley Biden, the children
of the former president, also his former secretaries of Defense
Mark Esper, his former National security advisor John Bolton. So
it's this tool that this president uses for some of
his you know, now political enemies. I guess too, you know,
kind of he has the upper hand on this one
and can can make moves like this.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We do we know why then, President Joe Biden extended
the Secret Service protection for his vice president for an
extra six months after she left office.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I mean, are we privy to the rationale?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, So we don't know exactly what the thinking was there.
We do know that the president on his way out
made a lot of moves. He also pardoned in case
of political you know, retribution against some of his folks.
He preemptively pardoned some people. I think it was along
those lines. Doesn't know that this vice president was in
an unpresident situation that we hadn't seen since you know,
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al Gore ran for president, which is she was the
major nominee for president, lost in November and then left office,
and so there might have been some thinking there too
that she wasn't just a former vice president, she also
was the person that President Trump law or beat. She
also was the person who President Trump, you know, used
as his political rival for the final four months or
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so of the election. So there was a lot of
layers there, but it does align with the fact that
President Biden took a lot of steps to protect the
people who worked for him in these last moments, protect
his family and so forth in these last moments that
his presidentcy.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So you're suggest from what I'm hearing, you're saying that
the at least some conventional wisdom there in DC is
that she needed to protect from domestic threat. Not like
usually when I hear Secret Service protection, it's Alcato or
something like that. Right, But so what you're saying is
the conventional wasn't back there, is that he believed that
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his vice president, then the presidential nominee who lost to Trump,
needed protection because it was such a hotly contested election.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, it would, you know, go with the fact that
the President Biden was so forceful in his thinking that
there was too much political violence in rhetoric. Obviously we
saw even President Trump himself be a victim of two
assassination attempts. I mean, we were at this really heightened
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moment in political violence and political aggressive rhetoric and whatever
else you want to call it, But you are right,
there are the foreign threats as well. Even becoming a
presidential nominee like she did in August that put her
on this platform on a national scale, on an international
scale that is, you know, so unique that it's not
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just that she's leaving as a vice president. She's leaving
as somebody who foreign leaders and foreign you know, adversaries
and whoever else abroad thought about her, thought about what
could have Harris presidency look like for us and what
does that mean to the extent that I think he
wanted to protect his people from all any sort of retribution.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Former Vice President Harris following the election was pretty low profile.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I mean, she was at the inaugural and she was
quiet for what, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, she has every right to, you know, running
a presidential campaign exhausting, so she could use the time
to recover. And there was some talk around the fourth
of July about her potentially running for governor, and really
it's it's only been in the last couple of weeks
that she's even made news or made any statements or
has had a profile at all.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Mean it seems it seems like she would probably be
higher profile now than she was for the first six months.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
That's a very good point. She spent those six months
that she was guaranteed, that security clear and in a
really low profile, really not doing much. We only heard
that she was officially not running for governor of California
after a lot of speculation, like you said, last month,
And now she's coming out with this book tour, which
is interesting considering, you know, she is now going to
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hit fifteen states to promo her book about the one
hundred and seven days of her presidential campaign. You know,
so presumably she was off writing her book in the
six months after she left office. But you're right, she
kept a very low profile, was rarely seen. She just
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her and her husband went back to California, and I
think in those times she was mulling over what's my
next move, decided not to run for a president in
your state. But you're right, I mean that was interestingly,
I lie so perfectly with the fact that she had
security or security protection at that time. And then when
she's ready to hit the road is when it's no
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longer given to her.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We're talking with the hills.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Alex Agangitano President Trump has pulled Kamala Harris's former vice president,
Kamala Harris as Secret Service protection. She's here in California,
as you mentioned, Alex, I don't know if you heard
this this morning. Both Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles
Mayor Karen Vass have opined on this a little bit
and have offered dignitary protection of some sort.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't know if that's CHP. Well in California would
be HP for the governor.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know what dignitary protection is available to her
in Los Angeles at the mayor's discretion, But that's unprecedented.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Have you ever heard of a story like that where a.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Former federal official, she was Vice President of the United States,
has been a granted local dignitary protection. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I thought that was so interesting that Governor Newsom came
out and said we could have her back, we could
figure out how to give her protection here. I mean,
I've never heard of something like that before. And you know,
we are in this situation right now. Newsom is responding
to a lot of things that President Trump does right now,
and this is just one of the many things that
happens to be impacting the former vice president from his
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state that he can say, you know what, I could
step in and provide some detail here. It's also you
know a lot of times people do personal detail. Her
and Doug Amhoff are pretty financially secure. I mean I
used to look at their their financial statements when she
was in office and had to put them out. You know,
would she just on a personal level get her own protection,
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But if Newsom's offering too on a state level, I'm
not sure how that works. If she you know, leaves
the state that she brings people with her or whatever else.
But yeah, I found that that unprecedented, but also not
surprising in the moment in time when we have governors
like Avenue some really having to feel like they have
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to step in and either comment or act on really
anything that the president does that somehow affects the people
around them.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
No, you're right, I mean everything is unprecedented today.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I mean, working at the Hill, everything's got to be unprecedented.
I mean that word has to be used so frequently
at the Hill. Alex Gangitano, thanks so much. I appreciate
you coming on to give us the backstory on this.
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Thanks thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So there you have it. That's the top story.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
The Secret Service protection to former Vice President Kamala Harris,
which ordinarily is extended for the first six months out of.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Office, which, by the way, that's where we are for
some reason. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And you just heard Alex Gangitano say that it was
a concern of domestic terrorism. President Biden extended that to
a whole year. I don't even know what authority that is,
but so that's what's happened. President Trump canceled the extension,
so nothing has been pulled, but that's the way it's
being characterized.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
All right. There's a couple of thoughts on this.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I worked close with Secret Service when I worked in
politics and when I worked in Palm Springs.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The Secret Service protecting former President Jerry Ford.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So I got to know these guys and how they worked,
and I'll share with you a little backstory and insight.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
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John will be back on Tuesday, President Trump has pulled
former Vice President Kamala Harris secret Service protection. Now, the
way this works, as you just heard, every vice president
enjoy Secret Service protection six months after they leave office
for whatever reason, President Biden, and we're not privy to
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the reason. We're just privy to the discussion. President Biden
said she needs it for six extra months or a year.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Now. Secret Service protection is expensive, Like they go with
you everywhere they go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
If you stay in a hotel, they got to rent
the hotel rooms on each side of you, and they've
got to be you know, they work twenty for hour shifts,
so the teams of three and then the weekends it's
twenty four to seven. So there's a lot of guys,
and you pay for it, not Kamala Harris. And it
doesn't come out of the budget of the president, which
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would still you'd be paying for but at least it
orady be budgeted. This would be extra money going out
of the treasury for her protection. And there is no
clear threat that I'm aware of. There was no clear threat.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
To her in January.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I don't know when Joe Biden made made the decision
to do this, but I think it's out of order.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I see no reason for.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Kamala Harris to stick it to the taxpayer for another
six months.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm surprised she didn't say so.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm surprised in reaction to President Trump's decision to save
the taxpayer the money and give these Secret Service agents
another detail that is more pressing. I'm surprised she didn't
make a statement that said, you know what, that's fine.
I can take care of myself and if I believe
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I need protection, then I can hire private security.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But she hasn't said anything.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And it's because Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is a very
entitled person. I don't prefer her. I understand that she
was the vice president of the United States, she was
the Senator from California and the Attorney General. Not my
cup of tea. And it's because of her in entitled mentality.
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She in many respects, was the perfect standard bearer for
the Democrat Party for President of the United States. Just
a braddy, entitled in way over her head.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Bureaucrat. And I'm happy she lost. And I'm glad that
she's running a book.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm not going to read it, but good for her,
because she has no business being in American politics. She
doesn't represent Americans well at all. I would argue she
doesn't represent Californians well at all. And I don't even
think President Biden knew that he extended her Secret Service
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for an extra six months, because I don't think Biden
knew what was going on in that White House at all.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
President Biden didn't take any steps to protect Himmers and
other people did all the pardons.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
He didn't do any of them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think auto Pen gave her an extra six months
of Secret Service production.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So a little bit about the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I got to know members of the Secret Service when
I worked on the Bush Cheney campaign in two thousand
and four, and prior to that, I worked in Palm
Springs and former President Ford lived.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
In Rancho Mirage.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Now former presidents enjoy Secret Service protection for life. So
for the most part, the agent that was assigned to
President Ford at Thunderbird.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Like live with him.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Ford went ahead and just built I don't know Ford
paid for it, but a small casida was built for
the Secret Service agent that was mostly there. And Ford
was quite public, at least in the nineties when I
lived in Palm Springs. He was very involved in lots
of organizations, Bighorn Sheep Protection Society, obviously Betty Ford and
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the Betty Ford Clinic. But he was high profile, played
a lot of golf, and so you would see him
around at celebrity events and dignitary events and all kinds
of things that he was involved in. If there was
a gala or ribbon cutting, he'd be out there, good
guy and always with the same Secret Service protection, and
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we would get to know the Secret Service guy. These
guys are these agents, men and women are on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, they never ever are not working. And as
I said, it is twenty four to seven. So when
there's days off, there's there's others and it's a three
shift cycle around the clock.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So this is not an inexpensive endeavor.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Now, you could make the argument that even presidents probably
don't need round the clock Secret Service protection for life,
but that's.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Where we are.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It was very different post nine to eleven like prior
to nine to eleven in the when I became familiar
with then President Ford's Secret Service, it was pretty much
like a driver, you know, like a friend because they
were so close to you, and they work with the
family so closely that you would just be They become family.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think your own personal bodyguard.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
One of the things that I found unique about the
Secret Service, they are with the President of the United
States wherever they go, rain or shine. So if it's
a break and the President is on vacation, the Secret
Service are there. If the President is traveling abroad, the
Secret Service is there. If they're home for Thanksgiving dinner,
the Secret Service is wherever Thanksgiving dinner is.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And the story in DC.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
President Obama used to like to spend his holidays Christmas,
New Year's, Thanksgiving in Hawaii, where he was from, and
would often do that. And that's fine. President of United States,
allowed to go wherever you want. You're from Hawaii, a
big flight, but whatever. You got a young family. It's
really warm in Hawaii at Christmas time. DC's freezing cold.
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I get it, no problem. And that's what Obama used
to do for eight years. He would vacation in Hawaii,
spend the holidays in Hawaii. The contrast is the Bush family.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
George W.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Bush eight years as president as well, could go back
to Texas or could have gone to Kenny Bunkport, where
the Bush family would always gather.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But the Bush.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Family, George and Laura Bush, and they had daughters too,
would stay, chose to stay in Washington, d C. During
the holidays, even though it's warmer in Texas. Family's in
Texas gatherings are either in Texas or in Maine, yet
they chose to stay in Washington, d C. Now, keep
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in mind, this is post nine to eleven, and we
were at war with al Cata, and you remember those
days with the colors red alert and Orange alert, and
TSA was just being formed, and everybody was on pins
and needles, especially the early days after September eleventh. So
obviously the Secret Service were on high alert at all
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times too. But the President then chose to spend the
holidays in DC on purpose for one reason, not because
DC is so beautiful on Christmas Eve, and not because
the White House is so warm. He did it because
that's where the Secret Service family is, the family of
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the Secret Service stations. So Bush chose to spend all
the holidays in Washington, DC, so that his Secret Service detail,
when they got off duty, could go home to Alexandria, Virginia,
or to Baltimore or wherever they were so that they
could be close to their family during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Absolutely true story.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Those of us that were there saw it and know it,
and I don't think it's ever been written about, nor
has he ever gotten credit for such kindness. But that's
the way the Bush family rolled. Lou Penrose Info, John
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So President Trump has pulled former Vice President Harris's Secret
Service protection. That's the headline. That is somewhat inaccurate. And
this is an ongoing thing. The headlines are always.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Kind of right. Yes, that is true.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He has ended an extension of the Secret Service protection.
Nobody knows why the Secret Service protection is extended for
six months. It really doesn't make a whole lot of
sense because if there was some international plot, everybody know,
I mean, certainly the plotters would know that the former
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vice president and the idea that she'd be the target
of an international plot is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Nobody cares about her. Like nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
About her who were American, why would some international cabal
care about her? But nevertheless, let's just say that people
outside the United States really think she's important and in
the way of their I don't know, like an ocean's
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eleven thing in Las Vegas. I can't even imagine why
she would need to be out of the way of anything.
But nevertheless, let's just go with the working theory that
apparently President Joe Biden had, and that is that she
needs an extra six month of protection.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
By granting her an extra six months of protection means.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That her Secret Service protection would have ended on January
twenty of twenty twenty six instead of August.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Twenty ninth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So wouldn't the plotters just wait till January twenty first
of next year when she is wide open? Like it's
so silly, even the fact that we tell the world, well,
the former vice president is a guaranteed Secret Service protection
for six months.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, bad guys have calendars.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So it's just also foolish, absolutely foolish.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And I don't think she needs anything special.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This is one of the things about former Vice President
Kamala Harris that I don't prefer. She walks around with
this entitlement mentality. She believes that being a woman in
and of itself is an accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
She believes being a woman of.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Color in and of itself is an accomplishment. And I
don't think that helps. I think that serves to divide us.
She talks about color and talked about the color of
people's skin more on the campaign trail than anybody I've
ever known. The Democrat Party when Kamala Harris or Kamala
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Harris was the nominee, constantly referred to the color of
people's skin. That Democrat invention. That's all they talked about,
was the color of people's skin. I never saw a
political movement so obsessed with the color of your skin.
It's all they ever talked about. So I don't care
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that she doesn't have Secret Service protection. Let her hire
a bodyguard. She's going on a book tour. Who doesn't
negotiate security going into a book tour. I've seen these
people negotiate books. I worked for lawmakers and lawmakers who
no longer were serving and decided I'm going to retire
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and read a book, or more frequently, I'm going to
retire and run for president. That's how you know she
is running for president. By the way, you know she's
running for president. When they write a book. You know
the reason for that. It's not to sell books. Nobody
wants to read her story. Anybody that is going to
buy her book was already voting for her.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Do you know why they write books? They'd write books.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So there's an income stream outside of political contributions. You see,
you can only give a presidential candidate so much money.
Let's say she does decide to run for president in
twenty twenty eight, you can only give her so much money.
I think what is the maximum is a fifty six
hundred dollars per campaign cycle. Now used to be fifty two,
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now it's fifty six. And now there's other ways that
you can bundle money. You can contribute to the Political
Action Committee that is supporting her right in other ways,
but there is there is a point which you can't
give a dollar more. There is a cap like you
can donate maximum amount per cycle to the Democrat National Committee,
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and then maximum amount to Kamala Harris or president, and
then the maximum amount for the citizens that want Kamala
Harris to be president and hate Donald Trump, and like,
there's all kinds of places for you to write a
check that will ultimately go to support her effort to
become the next president of the United States, but it's limited.
And believe it or not, there is a level of
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donor class out there that have the kind of money
where they write a maximum amount to every conceivable way
to get a candidate elected, and then they come to
you and say, how else can we help the candidate
become president. So one of the tools that have been
used in the past to moderate success, Well, the candaida
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has a book a and they get royalties every time
a book is sold. Okay, why don't I buy for
one thousand copies of the book and then as a
gift for it, and then then I invite my employee
political action committee. Let's say it's a big company, Xyz
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Enterprises has ten thousand employees, and five thousand of those
employees belong to the political arm of the Many companies
do have packs, they have political action committees, especially if
they're in pharmaceuticals, biotech, if there are, if they're in
engineering and our suppliers to the military. A lot of
companies do have political arms. These are employees that wish
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to get involved politically, so they'll throw fundraising events, and
they'll throw fundraising events for the next you know, the
candidates for president.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of the United States, and the companies. Says, all right,
I'm also gonna get no cost to come in.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Come here, candidate Harris speak about how great she's going
to be, and on your seat will be a copy
of her new book. And so the royalties of that
book right to her personally.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Barack Obama wrote a book, Ran for President. Hillary Clinton
wrote a book Ran for President. Now Republicans do it too,
But that's the reason the book is there. It's not
like she has anything to say. She was a candidate
for the Democrat nomination for president lost, She was the
vice president one served as the vice president for four.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Years, had bully pulpit and platforms.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Then was one of the most unique candidates for president,
only having been on the ticket after the current nominee,
Joe Biden, in July dropped out, so she's had a
lot of time to share her story. The book has
very little to do with her story, all right, when
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we come back, Governor Gavin Newsom is getting a little unhinged.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We will talk about.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
His new crime suppression unit coming up a little bit later.
Will be joined by California State Senator Tony Strickland. There's
been a lot of feedback and reaction to the Covenor's
decision to muscle up on crime in California, and now
major news organizations, including kcra out of Sacramento, are really
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holding his feet to the fire over the transparency of
it all. Trump is tough on crime. Now you're tough
on crime. Tough, wants to go after the homeless. Now
you're going after the homeless. Trump wants to seal the
border and increase border patrol. Now you're talking about border protection.
Seems a little transparent. So we'll talk about that coming
up a little bit later. But there was yet another podcast,
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which is all he does is either host a podcast
or guest on a podcast and whole press conferences when
he works.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'll never know, but he.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Was on a podcast and he truly believes that the
federal government will upset the next election using ice agents.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I'll share with you what he had to say that's
coming up next.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
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Speaker 3 (27:25):
Coming up following the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
News at two, the chief of police in Minneapolis. It's
that a rough week for sure, but at one point
asked the media not to say the name or not
to repeat the name of the shooter.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Now, we all know the name, we know the story
of the name change.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And we've been talking about it since it happened because
it's a major story. There's all kinds of interesting angles,
a lot of tragedy, a lot of drama, a lot
of heroism, and a lot of pain. So how can
we not talk about it as a society. But this
idea to not mention or repeat the name, it's the
first time I have ever heard of a law enforcement
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official to specifically ask media to be silent with respect
to the name itself. And we'll talk about it coming
up following the news too. Right now, California Governor Gavin
Newsom a little unhinged these days, he's in his mad
Gavin mode. There's goofy Gavin mode. There's fun Gavin mode.
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You see that, You know when he's having glasses of
wine during COVID when you're not allowed to have glasses
of wine. Goofy Gavin mode would be when he's inviting
Charlie Kirk onto his podcast to say, what are we
doing wrong as Democrats?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What do you think we should be doing?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Tell us what you think we should be doing. Then
there's a hardworking Gavin. This is where he has a
T shirt, sunglasses out picking up trash along the cow
trends right away under the overpass. You see that in
Los Angeles anytime Alec Michaelson's out covering him immediately strips
down to a T shirt and starts picking up trash.
(29:05):
Then there is mad Gavin, Mad Gavin, angry Gavin is
This guy is a threat to democracy. This guy in DC,
the President of the United States, is the most dangerous
person I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He is the worst leader.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He's destroying the economy, he's destroying our communities, he's destroying
the world.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
He's destroying everything.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And I'll tell you what, there's not going to be
any democracy left if we don't stop him, there's not
going to be any free and fair elections.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Is he's going to be an autocrat. He's going to
be a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Dictator, which is what they said during the campaign.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He was going to be a dictator on day one.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Remember that it would be the end of the of
the American democracy. He was going to shred the constitution.
He was going to be a dictator on day one.
And then Trump went on to win all seven battleground
states and the popular vote and flipped seven counties in California.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So the whole danger.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
To democracy line is not working. So now the new
fear tactic that the governor is using is that Trump
is going to surround the polling stations with ice agents.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Now do you think ice is not going to show
up around voting in polling boosts to chill participation. You
know that the National Guard, you know that everybody knows
what's at stake. So we have to put a stake
in the ground and do things differently.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We have to do things differently.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
This is interesting, all right, So Gavin says, it's absolutely clear.
You know that it's not only a concern, it's a fact,
and you know it's a fact that he's going to
surround the polling.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Stations with ICE agents number one. That's great. Well, I
mean I couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
What could be better than having immigration and customs enforcement
on their free time protecting our polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, we already have shareff's deputies protecting our polling station.
Why can't we have other guys who are deputized agents
of law enforcement with badges and guns protecting the polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
What harm could come from an ICE agent parked out
in front of a polling station?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think that sounds like a grand idea. I would
never be concerned that an illegalist casting a vote. Do
we don't?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean, are we still on the same page, Republicans
the Democrats alike? Are we still in favor of only
eligible voters voting? I would hope we are, so that
would be great. I have no problem with National Guard.
(31:51):
You know what, if off duty police officers from the
state of Arizona want to come and guard our polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Any good guy is a good guy, whether it's the
National Guard, Sheriff's Department, Local PD, National Guard, Border Patrol,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Only somebody who was hoping that
an illegal would be voting would be concerned that ice
is around the voting station.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I thought we were all mail in ballot. I thought
that he was all in favor of mail in ballot.
I thought he didn't like the bolling station because it's
too hard.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Are in our.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Undocumented community can't seem to get to the bolling stations.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Too few of them.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Disenfranchisement people have to take time off from work every
election cycle. I hear all the time about these hardworking
people that are gonna get fired by their.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Boss if they go and vote. It's never happened, by
the way, in the history.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of the Republic, nobody ever left to go vote, came
back and the boss got mad at her and fired
her on this.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But they tell you that all the time. They tell
you that all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's really hard, lou people you know, have to work,
and uh, it's Tuesday, and its not everybody has a
time on Tuesday to go vote, and.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
It's really bad for democracy.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Everybody should have representation and if somebody's got to make
a choice between losing their job or exercising their constitutional right.
By golly, they shouldn't have to make that choice. That's
why I've got to mail you a ballot. That's the rationale.
So he's the one out there saying that everybody should
get to balot in the mail.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Comma.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
But he's worried that the ice agents are gonna be
around the polling stations and scare actual Americans away.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I mean, that's the only man. That's the only way
I I I are.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You tell me you think Ice is not going to
show up around voting in polling boost to chill participation.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know that the chill participation. Ah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I have a rule, lou Penrose, rule number four. Words matter.
So let's examine the choice chill participation. Would you not
go vote if an ice agent or an ice truck
was near the polling station.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
If you are in favor.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Of what's happening in Los Angeles, that would make you happy.
If you don't like the ice vehicles and don't like
these ice raids, that would steal your intent.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To go and cast that vote.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I would argue that an increased presence of ice trucks
around polling stations in California these days would increase voter
turnout because we're polarized. People love ice, people hate ice.
Nobody's ambivalent, nobody's indifferent. So I don't think it chills
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voter participation. I think it heats it up. And ultimately
that's the best way to find out what is right
and what is wrong for California, what is right and
what is wrong for national elections, and that is a
higher level of eligible voters. Say you know what, I've
had enough. I've seen enough. I want more of these
(35:27):
ice trucks. I want more of these ice raids. I
want more of these ice raids going on in my
community too.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And look at that. That reminds me there's a nice van.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm going to go inside that, the fire station, and
I'm gonna go cast my vote.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Or the opposite. I've had enough. I'm sick of these
ice raids. They're being mean.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
These are just hard working people, So I'm going to
go into that fire station and cast my vote. I
would argue the opposite would happen. It would not chill
voter turnout and voter participation.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It would drive it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But there's newsom Lou Penrose of John Coblt on KFI
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On Tuesday, President Trump has ended secret Service protection for
former Vice president Kamala Harris. Alex Gngitano is with the Hill.
It's the big story. They're back in DC.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
But he didn't pull it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It ended on its own and it was extended, but
he ended the extension.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Phillis and Alex, Yeah, that's right. So basically, vice presidents
get security protection for six months after leaving office, so
that puts her at July for when that would end,
as opposed to presidents who have Secret Service for the
rest of their lives. That's only you know, a small
group of people. But before President Biden left office, he
(00:53):
signed a directive that basically extended vice president's security the
Vice President Harris's security clearance for another year. So that's
what President Trump threw a memo on Thursday, rescinded and
said six months is enough. You're done with your security clearance.
And you know it comes after we've seen him revoke
(01:14):
other protective details for Hunter Biden. Ashley Biden, the children
of the former president, also his former secretaries of Defense
Mark Esper, his former National security advisor John Bolton. So
it's this tool that this president uses for some of
his you know, now political enemies. I guess too, you know,
kind of he has the upper hand on this one
and can can make moves like this.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We do we know why then, President Joe Biden extended
the Secret Service protection for his vice president for an
extra six months after she left office.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I mean, are we privy to the rationale?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, So we don't know exactly what the thinking was there.
We do know that the president on his way out
made a lot of moves. He also pardoned in case
of political you know, retribution against some of his folks.
He preemptively pardoned some people. I think it was along
those lines. Doesn't know that this vice president was in
an unpresident situation that we hadn't seen since you know,
(02:14):
al Gore ran for president, which is she was the
major nominee for president, lost in November and then left office,
and so there might have been some thinking there too
that she wasn't just a former vice president, she also
was the person that President Trump law or beat. She
also was the person who President Trump, you know, used
as his political rival for the final four months or
(02:36):
so of the election. So there was a lot of
layers there, but it does align with the fact that
President Biden took a lot of steps to protect the
people who worked for him in these last moments, protect
his family and so forth in these last moments that
his presidentcy.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So you're suggest from what I'm hearing, you're saying that
the at least some conventional wisdom there in DC is
that she needed to protect from domestic threat. Not like
usually when I hear Secret Service protection, it's Alcato or
something like that. Right, But so what you're saying is
the conventional wasn't back there, is that he believed that
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his vice president, then the presidential nominee who lost to Trump,
needed protection because it was such a hotly contested election.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, it would, you know, go with the fact that
the President Biden was so forceful in his thinking that
there was too much political violence in rhetoric. Obviously we
saw even President Trump himself be a victim of two
assassination attempts. I mean, we were at this really heightened
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moment in political violence and political aggressive rhetoric and whatever
else you want to call it, But you are right,
there are the foreign threats as well. Even becoming a
presidential nominee like she did in August that put her
on this platform on a national scale, on an international
scale that is, you know, so unique that it's not
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just that she's leaving as a vice president. She's leaving
as somebody who foreign leaders and foreign you know, adversaries
and whoever else abroad thought about her, thought about what
could have Harris presidency look like for us and what
does that mean to the extent that I think he
wanted to protect his people from all any sort of retribution.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Former Vice President Harris following the election was pretty low profile.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I mean, she was at the inaugural and she was
quiet for what, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, she has every right to, you know, running
a presidential campaign exhausting, so she could use the time
to recover. And there was some talk around the fourth
of July about her potentially running for governor, and really
it's it's only been in the last couple of weeks
that she's even made news or made any statements or
has had a profile at all.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Mean it seems it seems like she would probably be
higher profile now than she was for the first six months.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
That's a very good point. She spent those six months
that she was guaranteed, that security clear and in a
really low profile, really not doing much. We only heard
that she was officially not running for governor of California
after a lot of speculation, like you said, last month,
And now she's coming out with this book tour, which
is interesting considering, you know, she is now going to
(05:26):
hit fifteen states to promo her book about the one
hundred and seven days of her presidential campaign. You know,
so presumably she was off writing her book in the
six months after she left office. But you're right, she
kept a very low profile, was rarely seen. She just
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her and her husband went back to California, and I
think in those times she was mulling over what's my
next move, decided not to run for a president in
your state. But you're right, I mean that was interestingly,
I lie so perfectly with the fact that she had
security or security protection at that time. And then when
she's ready to hit the road is when it's no
(06:10):
longer given to her.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We're talking with the hills.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Alex Agangitano President Trump has pulled Kamala Harris's former vice president,
Kamala Harris as Secret Service protection. She's here in California,
as you mentioned, Alex, I don't know if you heard
this this morning. Both Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles
Mayor Karen Vass have opined on this a little bit
and have offered dignitary protection of some sort.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't know if that's CHP. Well in California would
be HP for the governor.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't know what dignitary protection is available to her
in Los Angeles at the mayor's discretion, But that's unprecedented.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Have you ever heard of a story like that where a.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Former federal official, she was Vice President of the United States,
has been a granted local dignitary protection. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I thought that was so interesting that Governor Newsom came
out and said we could have her back, we could
figure out how to give her protection here. I mean,
I've never heard of something like that before. And you know,
we are in this situation right now. Newsom is responding
to a lot of things that President Trump does right now,
and this is just one of the many things that
happens to be impacting the former vice president from his
(07:22):
state that he can say, you know what, I could
step in and provide some detail here. It's also you
know a lot of times people do personal detail. Her
and Doug Amhoff are pretty financially secure. I mean I
used to look at their their financial statements when she
was in office and had to put them out. You know,
would she just on a personal level get her own protection,
(07:45):
But if Newsom's offering too on a state level, I'm
not sure how that works. If she you know, leaves
the state that she brings people with her or whatever else.
But yeah, I found that that unprecedented, but also not
surprising in the moment in time when we have governors
like Avenue some really having to feel like they have
(08:07):
to step in and either comment or act on really
anything that the president does that somehow affects the people
around them.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
No, you're right, I mean everything is unprecedented today.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I mean, working at the Hill, everything's got to be unprecedented.
I mean that word has to be used so frequently
at the Hill. Alex Gangitano, thanks so much. I appreciate
you coming on to give us the backstory on this.
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Thanks thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So there you have it. That's the top story.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
The Secret Service protection to former Vice President Kamala Harris,
which ordinarily is extended for the first six months out of.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Office, which, by the way, that's where we are for
some reason. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And you just heard Alex Gangitano say that it was
a concern of domestic terrorism. President Biden extended that to
a whole year. I don't even know what authority that is,
but so that's what's happened. President Trump canceled the extension,
so nothing has been pulled, but that's the way it's
being characterized.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
All right. There's a couple of thoughts on this.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I worked close with Secret Service when I worked in
politics and when I worked in Palm Springs.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The Secret Service protecting former President Jerry Ford.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So I got to know these guys and how they worked,
and I'll share with you a little backstory and insight.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
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KFI AM six forty.
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six forty.
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Lou Penrose Info John Cobelt.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
John will be back on Tuesday, President Trump has pulled
former Vice President Kamala Harris secret Service protection. Now, the
way this works, as you just heard, every vice president
enjoy Secret Service protection six months after they leave office
for whatever reason, President Biden, and we're not privy to
(10:04):
the reason. We're just privy to the discussion. President Biden
said she needs it for six extra months or a year.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Now. Secret Service protection is expensive, Like they go with
you everywhere they go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
If you stay in a hotel, they got to rent
the hotel rooms on each side of you, and they've
got to be you know, they work twenty for hour shifts,
so the teams of three and then the weekends it's
twenty four to seven. So there's a lot of guys,
and you pay for it, not Kamala Harris. And it
doesn't come out of the budget of the president, which
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would still you'd be paying for but at least it
orady be budgeted. This would be extra money going out
of the treasury for her protection. And there is no
clear threat that I'm aware of. There was no clear threat.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
To her in January.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I don't know when Joe Biden made made the decision
to do this, but I think it's out of order.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I see no reason for.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Kamala Harris to stick it to the taxpayer for another
six months.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm surprised she didn't say so.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'm surprised in reaction to President Trump's decision to save
the taxpayer the money and give these Secret Service agents
another detail that is more pressing. I'm surprised she didn't
make a statement that said, you know what, that's fine.
I can take care of myself and if I believe
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I need protection, then I can hire private security.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But she hasn't said anything.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And it's because Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is a very
entitled person. I don't prefer her. I understand that she
was the vice president of the United States, she was
the Senator from California and the Attorney General. Not my
cup of tea. And it's because of her in entitled mentality.
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She in many respects, was the perfect standard bearer for
the Democrat Party for President of the United States. Just
a braddy, entitled in way over her head.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Bureaucrat. And I'm happy she lost. And I'm glad that
she's running a book.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm not going to read it, but good for her,
because she has no business being in American politics. She
doesn't represent Americans well at all. I would argue she
doesn't represent Californians well at all. And I don't even
think President Biden knew that he extended her Secret Service
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for an extra six months, because I don't think Biden
knew what was going on in that White House at all.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
President Biden didn't take any steps to protect Himmers and
other people did all the pardons.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
He didn't do any of them.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think auto Pen gave her an extra six months
of Secret Service production.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
So a little bit about the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I got to know members of the Secret Service when
I worked on the Bush Cheney campaign in two thousand
and four, and prior to that, I worked in Palm
Springs and former President Ford lived.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
In Rancho Mirage.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Now former presidents enjoy Secret Service protection for life. So
for the most part, the agent that was assigned to
President Ford at Thunderbird.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Like live with him.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Ford went ahead and just built I don't know Ford
paid for it, but a small casida was built for
the Secret Service agent that was mostly there. And Ford
was quite public, at least in the nineties when I
lived in Palm Springs. He was very involved in lots
of organizations, Bighorn Sheep Protection Society, obviously Betty Ford and
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the Betty Ford Clinic. But he was high profile, played
a lot of golf, and so you would see him
around at celebrity events and dignitary events and all kinds
of things that he was involved in. If there was
a gala or ribbon cutting, he'd be out there, good
guy and always with the same Secret Service protection, and
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we would get to know the Secret Service guy. These
guys are these agents, men and women are on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I mean, they never ever are not working. And as
I said, it is twenty four to seven. So when
there's days off, there's there's others and it's a three
shift cycle around the clock.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So this is not an inexpensive endeavor.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Now, you could make the argument that even presidents probably
don't need round the clock Secret Service protection for life,
but that's.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Where we are.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It was very different post nine to eleven like prior
to nine to eleven in the when I became familiar
with then President Ford's Secret Service, it was pretty much
like a driver, you know, like a friend because they
were so close to you, and they work with the
family so closely that you would just be They become family.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think your own personal bodyguard.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
One of the things that I found unique about the
Secret Service, they are with the President of the United
States wherever they go, rain or shine. So if it's
a break and the President is on vacation, the Secret
Service are there. If the President is traveling abroad, the
Secret Service is there. If they're home for Thanksgiving dinner,
the Secret Service is wherever Thanksgiving dinner is.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And the story in DC.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
President Obama used to like to spend his holidays Christmas,
New Year's, Thanksgiving in Hawaii, where he was from, and
would often do that. And that's fine. President of United States,
allowed to go wherever you want. You're from Hawaii, a
big flight, but whatever. You got a young family. It's
really warm in Hawaii at Christmas time. DC's freezing cold.
(16:06):
I get it, no problem. And that's what Obama used
to do for eight years. He would vacation in Hawaii,
spend the holidays in Hawaii. The contrast is the Bush family.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
George W.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Bush eight years as president as well, could go back
to Texas or could have gone to Kenny Bunkport, where
the Bush family would always gather.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But the Bush.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Family, George and Laura Bush, and they had daughters too,
would stay, chose to stay in Washington, d C. During
the holidays, even though it's warmer in Texas. Family's in
Texas gatherings are either in Texas or in Maine, yet
they chose to stay in Washington, d C. Now, keep
(16:56):
in mind, this is post nine to eleven, and we
were at war with al Cata, and you remember those
days with the colors red alert and Orange alert, and
TSA was just being formed, and everybody was on pins
and needles, especially the early days after September eleventh. So
obviously the Secret Service were on high alert at all
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times too. But the President then chose to spend the
holidays in DC on purpose for one reason, not because
DC is so beautiful on Christmas Eve, and not because
the White House is so warm. He did it because
that's where the Secret Service family is, the family of
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the Secret Service stations. So Bush chose to spend all
the holidays in Washington, DC, so that his Secret Service detail,
when they got off duty, could go home to Alexandria, Virginia,
or to Baltimore or wherever they were so that they
could be close to their family during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Absolutely true story.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Those of us that were there saw it and know it,
and I don't think it's ever been written about, nor
has he ever gotten credit for such kindness. But that's
the way the Bush family rolled. Lou Penrose Info, John
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John will be back on Tuesday. Good to be with you.
So President Trump has pulled former Vice President Harris's Secret
Service protection. That's the headline. That is somewhat inaccurate. And
this is an ongoing thing. The headlines are always.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Kind of right. Yes, that is true.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
He has ended an extension of the Secret Service protection.
Nobody knows why the Secret Service protection is extended for
six months. It really doesn't make a whole lot of
sense because if there was some international plot, everybody know,
I mean, certainly the plotters would know that the former
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vice president and the idea that she'd be the target
of an international plot is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Nobody cares about her. Like nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
About her who were American, why would some international cabal
care about her? But nevertheless, let's just say that people
outside the United States really think she's important and in
the way of their I don't know, like an ocean's
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eleven thing in Las Vegas. I can't even imagine why
she would need to be out of the way of anything.
But nevertheless, let's just go with the working theory that
apparently President Joe Biden had, and that is that she
needs an extra six month of protection.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
By granting her an extra six months of protection means.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That her Secret Service protection would have ended on January
twenty of twenty twenty six instead of August.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Twenty ninth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
So wouldn't the plotters just wait till January twenty first
of next year when she is wide open? Like it's
so silly, even the fact that we tell the world, well,
the former vice president is a guaranteed Secret Service protection
for six months.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, bad guys have calendars.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So it's just also foolish, absolutely foolish.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And I don't think she needs anything special.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This is one of the things about former Vice President
Kamala Harris that I don't prefer. She walks around with
this entitlement mentality. She believes that being a woman in
and of itself is an accomplishment.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
She believes being a woman of.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Color in and of itself is an accomplishment. And I
don't think that helps. I think that serves to divide us.
She talks about color and talked about the color of
people's skin more on the campaign trail than anybody I've
ever known. The Democrat Party when Kamala Harris or Kamala
(21:17):
Harris was the nominee, constantly referred to the color of
people's skin. That Democrat invention. That's all they talked about,
was the color of people's skin. I never saw a
political movement so obsessed with the color of your skin.
It's all they ever talked about. So I don't care
(21:39):
that she doesn't have Secret Service protection. Let her hire
a bodyguard. She's going on a book tour. Who doesn't
negotiate security going into a book tour. I've seen these
people negotiate books. I worked for lawmakers and lawmakers who
no longer were serving and decided I'm going to retire
(21:59):
and read a book, or more frequently, I'm going to
retire and run for president. That's how you know she
is running for president. By the way, you know she's
running for president. When they write a book. You know
the reason for that. It's not to sell books. Nobody
wants to read her story. Anybody that is going to
buy her book was already voting for her.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Do you know why they write books? They'd write books.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So there's an income stream outside of political contributions. You see,
you can only give a presidential candidate so much money.
Let's say she does decide to run for president in
twenty twenty eight, you can only give her so much money.
I think what is the maximum is a fifty six
hundred dollars per campaign cycle. Now used to be fifty two,
(22:47):
now it's fifty six. And now there's other ways that
you can bundle money. You can contribute to the Political
Action Committee that is supporting her right in other ways,
but there is there is a point which you can't
give a dollar more. There is a cap like you
can donate maximum amount per cycle to the Democrat National Committee,
(23:07):
and then maximum amount to Kamala Harris or president, and
then the maximum amount for the citizens that want Kamala
Harris to be president and hate Donald Trump, and like,
there's all kinds of places for you to write a
check that will ultimately go to support her effort to
become the next president of the United States, but it's limited.
And believe it or not, there is a level of
(23:28):
donor class out there that have the kind of money
where they write a maximum amount to every conceivable way
to get a candidate elected, and then they come to
you and say, how else can we help the candidate
become president. So one of the tools that have been
used in the past to moderate success, Well, the candaida
(23:52):
has a book a and they get royalties every time
a book is sold. Okay, why don't I buy for
one thousand copies of the book and then as a
gift for it, and then then I invite my employee
political action committee. Let's say it's a big company, Xyz
(24:13):
Enterprises has ten thousand employees, and five thousand of those
employees belong to the political arm of the Many companies
do have packs, they have political action committees, especially if
they're in pharmaceuticals, biotech, if there are, if they're in
engineering and our suppliers to the military. A lot of
companies do have political arms. These are employees that wish
(24:36):
to get involved politically, so they'll throw fundraising events, and
they'll throw fundraising events for the next you know, the
candidates for president.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of the United States, and the companies. Says, all right,
I'm also gonna get no cost to come in.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Come here, candidate Harris speak about how great she's going
to be, and on your seat will be a copy
of her new book. And so the royalties of that
book right to her personally.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Barack Obama wrote a book, Ran for President. Hillary Clinton
wrote a book Ran for President. Now Republicans do it too,
But that's the reason the book is there. It's not
like she has anything to say. She was a candidate
for the Democrat nomination for president lost, She was the
vice president one served as the vice president for four.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Years, had bully pulpit and platforms.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Then was one of the most unique candidates for president,
only having been on the ticket after the current nominee,
Joe Biden, in July dropped out, so she's had a
lot of time to share her story. The book has
very little to do with her story, all right, when
(25:53):
we come back, Governor Gavin Newsom is getting a little unhinged.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
We will talk about.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
His new crime suppression unit coming up a little bit later.
Will be joined by California State Senator Tony Strickland. There's
been a lot of feedback and reaction to the Covenor's
decision to muscle up on crime in California, and now
major news organizations, including kcra out of Sacramento, are really
(26:22):
holding his feet to the fire over the transparency of
it all. Trump is tough on crime. Now you're tough
on crime. Tough, wants to go after the homeless. Now
you're going after the homeless. Trump wants to seal the
border and increase border patrol. Now you're talking about border protection.
Seems a little transparent. So we'll talk about that coming
up a little bit later. But there was yet another podcast,
(26:46):
which is all he does is either host a podcast
or guest on a podcast and whole press conferences when
he works.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'll never know, but he.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Was on a podcast and he truly believes that the
federal government will upset the next election using ice agents.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I'll share with you what he had to say that's
coming up next.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Louke Penrose Info, John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
John Cobelt Show, lou Penrose Info, John Cobelt. John will
be back with you on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Coming up following the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
News at two, the chief of police in Minneapolis. It's
that a rough week for sure, but at one point
asked the media not to say the name or not
to repeat the name of the shooter.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Now, we all know the name, we know the story
of the name change.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And we've been talking about it since it happened because
it's a major story. There's all kinds of interesting angles,
a lot of tragedy, a lot of drama, a lot
of heroism, and a lot of pain. So how can
we not talk about it as a society. But this
idea to not mention or repeat the name, it's the
first time I have ever heard of a law enforcement
(28:04):
official to specifically ask media to be silent with respect
to the name itself. And we'll talk about it coming
up following the news too. Right now, California Governor Gavin
Newsom a little unhinged these days, he's in his mad
Gavin mode. There's goofy Gavin mode. There's fun Gavin mode.
(28:25):
You see that, You know when he's having glasses of
wine during COVID when you're not allowed to have glasses
of wine. Goofy Gavin mode would be when he's inviting
Charlie Kirk onto his podcast to say, what are we
doing wrong as Democrats?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
What do you think we should be doing?
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Tell us what you think we should be doing. Then
there's a hardworking Gavin. This is where he has a
T shirt, sunglasses out picking up trash along the cow
trends right away under the overpass. You see that in
Los Angeles anytime Alec Michaelson's out covering him immediately strips
down to a T shirt and starts picking up trash.
(29:05):
Then there is mad Gavin, Mad Gavin, angry Gavin is
This guy is a threat to democracy. This guy in DC,
the President of the United States, is the most dangerous
person I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He is the worst leader.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
He's destroying the economy, he's destroying our communities, he's destroying
the world.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
He's destroying everything.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And I'll tell you what, there's not going to be
any democracy left if we don't stop him, there's not
going to be any free and fair elections.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Is he's going to be an autocrat. He's going to
be a.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Dictator, which is what they said during the campaign.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
He was going to be a dictator on day one.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Remember that it would be the end of the of
the American democracy. He was going to shred the constitution.
He was going to be a dictator on day one.
And then Trump went on to win all seven battleground
states and the popular vote and flipped seven counties in California.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
So the whole danger.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
To democracy line is not working. So now the new
fear tactic that the governor is using is that Trump
is going to surround the polling stations with ice agents.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Now do you think ice is not going to show
up around voting in polling boosts to chill participation. You
know that the National Guard, you know that everybody knows
what's at stake. So we have to put a stake
in the ground and do things differently.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We have to do things differently.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
This is interesting, all right, So Gavin says, it's absolutely clear.
You know that it's not only a concern, it's a fact,
and you know it's a fact that he's going to
surround the polling.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Stations with ICE agents number one. That's great. Well, I
mean I couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
What could be better than having immigration and customs enforcement
on their free time protecting our polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, we already have shareff's deputies protecting our polling station.
Why can't we have other guys who are deputized agents
of law enforcement with badges and guns protecting the polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think that sounds great.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
What harm could come from an ICE agent parked out
in front of a polling station?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think that sounds like a grand idea. I would
never be concerned that an illegalist casting a vote. Do
we don't?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean, are we still on the same page, Republicans
the Democrats alike? Are we still in favor of only
eligible voters voting? I would hope we are, so that
would be great. I have no problem with National Guard.
(31:51):
You know what, if off duty police officers from the
state of Arizona want to come and guard our polling stations.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Any good guy is a good guy, whether it's the
National Guard, Sheriff's Department, Local PD, National Guard, Border Patrol,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Only somebody who was hoping that
an illegal would be voting would be concerned that ice
is around the voting station.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I thought we were all mail in ballot. I thought
that he was all in favor of mail in ballot.
I thought he didn't like the bolling station because it's
too hard.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Are in our.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Undocumented community can't seem to get to the bolling stations.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Too few of them.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Disenfranchisement people have to take time off from work every
election cycle. I hear all the time about these hardworking
people that are gonna get fired by their.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Boss if they go and vote. It's never happened, by
the way, in the history.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of the Republic, nobody ever left to go vote, came
back and the boss got mad at her and fired
her on this.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
But they tell you that all the time. They tell
you that all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's really hard, lou people you know, have to work,
and uh, it's Tuesday, and its not everybody has a
time on Tuesday to go vote, and.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
It's really bad for democracy.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Everybody should have representation and if somebody's got to make
a choice between losing their job or exercising their constitutional right.
By golly, they shouldn't have to make that choice. That's
why I've got to mail you a ballot. That's the rationale.
So he's the one out there saying that everybody should
get to balot in the mail.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Comma.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
But he's worried that the ice agents are gonna be
around the polling stations and scare actual Americans away.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I mean, that's the only man. That's the only way
I I I are.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
You tell me you think Ice is not going to
show up around voting in polling boost to chill participation.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
You know that the chill participation. Ah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I have a rule, lou Penrose, rule number four. Words matter.
So let's examine the choice chill participation. Would you not
go vote if an ice agent or an ice truck
was near the polling station.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
If you are in favor.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Of what's happening in Los Angeles, that would make you happy.
If you don't like the ice vehicles and don't like
these ice raids, that would steal your intent.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
To go and cast that vote.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I would argue that an increased presence of ice trucks
around polling stations in California these days would increase voter
turnout because we're polarized. People love ice, people hate ice.
Nobody's ambivalent, nobody's indifferent. So I don't think it chills
(35:05):
voter participation. I think it heats it up. And ultimately
that's the best way to find out what is right
and what is wrong for California, what is right and
what is wrong for national elections, and that is a
higher level of eligible voters. Say you know what, I've
had enough. I've seen enough. I want more of these
(35:27):
ice trucks. I want more of these ice raids. I
want more of these ice raids going on in my
community too.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And look at that. That reminds me there's a nice van.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm going to go inside that, the fire station, and
I'm gonna go cast my vote.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Or the opposite. I've had enough. I'm sick of these
ice raids. They're being mean.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
These are just hard working people, So I'm going to
go into that fire station and cast my vote. I
would argue the opposite would happen. It would not chill
voter turnout and voter participation.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It would drive it.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
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