September 11, 2025 • 28 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (09/11) - USC Prof. Michael Mische comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with oil refinery closures in California. Gov. Newsom was on a podcast on Aug. 20th and said that "We are going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth" in reference to Republicans and redistricting. Former MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd was fired for his comments during the coverage after Charlie Kirk was assassinated yesterday. More on Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
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one until four o'clock. After four o'clock John Cobel Show
on demand on the iHeart app. And if you weren't
here about one point thirty in the first hour of
the show, you'll want to hear the interview we did
with the pastor for Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's family.
(00:23):
He's based here in Newbury Park in Toura County, Pastor
Rob McCoy of Godspeak Cavalry Chapel. He was with the
Kirk family and when I spoke with him earlier in
the show, and that interview will be on the podcast
to be posted after four o'clock because he Kirk credited
with McCoy as convincing him to start mixing combining his
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Christian beliefs with his political messaging, and it made his
following even bigger. All right, let's now get back. It
looks as press conference hasn't happened yet. You have that
story about the ammunition with the transgender ideology engraving in it,
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but not much else new, and there's plenty of stuff
that the California government is doing to you, starting with
Gavin Newsom and the impending eight dollars a gallon gas.
We're going to talk to Michael Machee in just a moment.
He's the USC professor who alerted us to this coming up,
and now Newsom is frantically trying to He tried to
(01:33):
find a buyer for Valero, whose refinery is being shut
down in Benetia, and I guess nobody wanted it because
now he's offering them hundreds of millions of dollars to
keep the refinery running. Anyway, that would be our tax money.
And he's also suddenly really excited about new oil drilling.
He had shut down drilling to almost zero in the state.
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So let's talk to Michael Machee.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
How are you, hey, John, how are you today? First
before we get into this tough day, And I'd like
to compliment you and the KFI family for your coverage thoughtfulness.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh thank you. I'm Charlie Kirk, Thank you very much. Yeah,
it is it is really Uh, it's hard. It's hard
to do, but you know, people, people need to hear
other voices and hear people thinking and talking and going
through the whole grieving process, and so hopefully we're able
(02:31):
to do that. Michael, you were the first to alert
the world that we were headed towards eight dollars gas
and I know you got a lot of blowback and
insults and smears from the NEWSOB administration. But now it
looks like he's a convert and his actions indicate that
he seems to be in a panic. He was trying
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to get an outside buyer for the Valero Benetia refinery.
What happened to that plan?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you know who wants to buy a refinery in California.
You know, you have a governor whose flip flop from
demonizing the industry, alleging price galloging very vocal about refiners
ripping people off in the high gasoline prices, and so
irrespective of the enticement money of two hundred and eighty million,
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which is the number that was published to have the
refinery stay operating in the state of California that was
offered to Valero, or thought about being offered to Valero
and trying to find a foreign buyer to buy the
refinery in Benicia. Who's going to enter the state under
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these conditions. Even Chevron has warned quite vocally in the
last two weeks about the things need to change in California.
So Gavin and the gang in Sacramento are locked down
in secret meetings trying to con ure up a solution
to honestly a problem that they created. And so today,
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the irrespective of what we're saying or hearing, you know,
the price of gasoline today is forty five percent higher
in California than across the nation. And since Gavin has
taken office in January of twenty nineteen, California gasoline prices
have increased by forty two percent. The state excise tax
has increased by twenty nine percent, our refinery capacity has
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declined by twenty one percent, our production of oil in
state has declined by forty five percent. And our drilling permits,
which is sort of the centerpiece of the of the
new idea, they plummeted by ninety eight percent.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh my god, he got rid of ninety eight percent
of the of the drilling permits.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, the permits plummeted by a ninety seven point twenty
six percent over his administration.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So now the latest idea is to is to allow
for up to two thousand drilling permitits in Kerrent County.
Now most of those have already been applied for, and
you know we're sitting in litigation or suspension. But the
latest centerpiece is to allow up to two thousand new
drilling permits and Current which is great. We need that production,
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there's no question about. It's terrific for Current County, terrific
for California. Most importantly, that production is needed to maintain
the pipeline, and I think we had that discussion a
few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, without enough oil going through the pipeline, it's going
to get shut down because this is not enough oil pressure, right.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So if it gets shut down, then data effects the
northern California refineries and so they could lose as much
as another eighty to one hundred and twenty thousand bars
a day of gasoline production if that pipeline shuts down.
But there's more to it than that pipeline though in
Current County, because the economics of the oil global oil
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industry come into play. It's the cost of production and
the break even points, right. So the reason why the
price of gasoline is down across California and throughout the
nation is really directly attributed to Trump's policies. So we've
had to drill, baby drill. We've increased production, and since
assuming office in January, crude price oils. The price of
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crude oil has dropped nineteen percent under this administration. That
costs the drop in gasoline prices at the retail level
in our level. So but our differential is still forty
five percent higher than the rest of the nation. So
the point is, even though they're increasing or thinking about
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increasing production in current county with these with these permits,
there's no guarantee that once you have the permit, you're
going to drill. There's no guarantee that once you have
the permit, you're going to find oil. And there's no
guarantee that once you have the oil, you're gonna have
sufficient oil that pipeline to keep it alive. And so
the state needs to look more holistically across other sources
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La County, Venturer County, Santa Barbara County, you know, for
additional oil. The point is, under all in any scenario,
the cost of gasoline is going to go up.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We had an assemblyment on from the Bakersfield area the
other day and he spent fifty he has spent fifty
years in the business, and he agreed with what you
said that we're looking at, you know, eight to ten
dollars a gallon over time. Now, what about this plan
just to give Benetia hundreds of millions of dollars to
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keep the refinery open, using state tax money to keep
it open.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, that's the last number I saw that was published
was two hundred and eighty million dollars, And ostensibly that
was for to help out with maintenance and repairs and
sustainability of it. But that's really, you know, a clandescent
way of subsidizing gasoline prices in the state. But you know,
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if you really think it through, if you're if you're
a refiner now and you see that the Nancier has
been offered two hundred and eighty million, I would think
other refineries are sort of lining up saying, gee, I
think I'll go out of business too. Where's my two
hundred and eighty million, where's my five hundred million, where's
my one hundred million?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is this is such a disastrous policy. There's really
no way out of it. You simply have to drastically
reduce the taxes and drastically reduce all the regulations. That's
the only way to fix this.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Absolutely so today if we just look at the at
the cost of legislation today, all right, the way the
way our taxes and fees work in the state, it's
about twenty seven percent of the price of gasoline at
the pump, and when you add the federal into it,
it's about twenty nine to thirty percent for the price
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of gasoline at the pump. We have the highest state
excise tax in the country at sixty one point sixty
two point one cents a gallon. So it's you know,
it's it's a fantasy land in Sacramento as to how
they're going to go about fixing this. What is required
is a complete repeal of existing legislation and a restructuring
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of the legislation to provide, you know, an economically viable
and regulatorily hospitable, hospitable environment for these refiners and producers
to operate in.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
All right, Michael Michee, thank you for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hey, thanks you, John.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Michael Michee from usc MARK coming up.
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Speaker 1 (09:49):
We are on every day from one until fourth and
after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the
iHeart app. You know, after Charlie Kirk was assassin, Gavin
Newsom ran right to X and sent out a tweet
about how vile and disgusting. Uh, this assassination was and
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this all has to stop. There is nobody on earth
who's a bigger phony than Gavin Newsom. I'm actually astonished.
I am in awe of him. I don't know how
he does it. I mean we have covered hundreds and
hundreds of phonies from all the industries and this he's
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this is he is like Michael Jordan or show Hey
o Tani. I mean, nobody touches him when it comes
to the shamelessness of his hypocrisy and phoniness. He went
on and this just just turned up today a podcast
called The Siren, and he was talking about the redistricting.
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You know, Texas is going to redraw the district, so
California has to fight back and redraw theirs. And here's
what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Nothing conservative about this, by definition, nothing conservative about that.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
This is radical.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Rigging of a midterm election, Radical rigging of an election destroying,
vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So I'm sorry. I know some people's sensibilities.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I respect and appreciate that, but right now, with all
due respect, we're walking down a damn different path.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
We're fighting fire with fire, and we going to punch
these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There we go, punch these sons of bleeps in the mouth.
A call to violence from Gavin Newsom over redrawing congressional districts,
and then he stands up and decries the violence and politics.
(12:00):
That was pretty aggressive. That was from August twentieth. I
don't want to defame the guy and make him look
more ridiculous than he already is.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I want to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, there you go, Yeah, mister tough guy. And believe me,
all those Texas politicians they're really afraid of you. They
that the last thing they want is Gavin Newsom punching them.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I want to punch these sons of in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You imagine the pain from a Gavin Newso punch.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I want to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean, he is just such a clown. Please please
run for president. Please be two years of just golden material.
All right, when we come back, there's some strange stories
connected to the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're gonna talk about
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out the mystery man with a beard and the retired
banker who was whose reputation was completely destroyed. He was
living quietly in Canada when millions of people on the
Internet decided that he killed Charlie Kirk. Tell you about
it we come back.
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Last call out here for the moist line eight seven
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we're gonna play it twice in the three o'clock hour.
And certainly there's been plenty of terrible things going on
this week that you can carry on about. We went
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driving in today. I thought we were going to have
a lot new to talk about with the Charlie Kirk assassination,
because they were going to have a press conference. They
said there's been rapid developments in the case that Cash Betel,
the director of the FBI was flying in from Washington
and it was supposed to be a three forty five.
Well now it's three thirty seven and they haven't come
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out to say anything. They are looking for a guy.
You might have seen his photo online, a tall, thin,
young guy with a wrap around sunglasses, a baseball cap,
a black T shirt with an American flag and a
bald eagle as part of the logo on the front
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of it. And they have found his sniper's nest they
call it up on the roof of that building about
two hundred yards away. They found his rifle tossed in
the in the woods, along with other evidence. They have
a they have footprints, they have an arm print. They're
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looking for DNA, and they have cartridges, unspent cartridges that
were in the rifle that had engravings on it, much
like Luigi Menngeone had engravings in the bullets that he
shot at that healthcare executive in New York City. Remember
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it was it was the title of a book that
somebody had written about the ways the insurance companies screw
over their their customers and was denied defend in something else,
and that was engraved on on the cartridge or the bullets, Well,
same thing here. All they're doing is saying it describes
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transgender ideology and anti fascist ideology. So you could bet
what the impetus for this was. And it was right
at the moment that Charlie Kirk was engaging about transgenderism
with an audience member. And I don't just me. Maybe
(16:05):
I'm being conspirational, but I just think there was a
connection between that question at that moment and the bullet
that came at Charlie Kirk. And so I'll be honest,
I was aware of Charlie Kirk, but I never really
followed him very much. I didn't know. I knew he
was a great organizer of young voters. I knew Elon
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Musk had contributed a lot of money during the Trump
campaign to Charlie Kirk's organization Turning Point for get out
the vote effort, which worked brilliantly, because I remember that
the Trump the Trump reelection campaign got a lot of
criticism that they weren't using traditional channels to get out
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the vote, but they were experimenting with Charlie Kirk's organization,
but Musk paid for it, and they got a tremendous
increase in young voters through his organization. It's all that
I knew, but I never really spent any time listening
to him. I know we had a radio show in town,
obviously a very popular podcast. I want to play a
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clip that was sent to me. I played it earlier
in the show, and I want to pair it with
a second clip, and maybe this will explain what happened.
Don't know for sure, but I have a feeling based
on that engraving on the bullet that we're in the
ballpark here, So let's play. Let's play the clip. This
is a transgender man. Well, I mean he's a biological man.
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He's dressed in a pink dress with white frilly lace.
He's got beard, stubble, oversized, dark rim, glasses, a bit chunky,
and his voice you'll hear first challenging Charlie Kirk on
Kirk's transgender opinions.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You're part of the problem, I think with the hatred
on trans people.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's really not that deep. Like, if someone wants to
dress up however they want, that's totally fine.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Okay, so I think I'm not I'm not preventing you
from dressing Yeah. Yeah, However, let me ask you a
question I will blush this out. So let's pretend you
say you are a woman. Yeah, I know you are
a man, but I refuse to call you a woman. Okay,
who's the hateful one? I would say you are? I
mean you're going to me and shame me, not a
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second man, I'm the hateful one. It's really just like
it is never common courtesy to lie. You do not
become a thing just because you say it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You are the thing.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And guess what, nobody in the history of the species
that was born xx or born x y and transition
is able to change their chromosomes. Every one of your
cells is coded either xx or x y. But then
it is an insult to women everywhere in this audience
and across the country. That's saying that you could just
have wear makeup and dress like a woman, undergo surgery,
that you magically become a woman. And it is the
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abolition of women and is the abolition of reality. And
we see great, unjust human suffering because of it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And he's right, XX means you're and x Y means
your man. That's biology. And no matter how you dress up,
and you know, listen to what he said closely, because
you can do whatever you want, you can call yourself
whatever you want, but don't expect me to go along
with it, because at the root of this is your
biological chromosomal makeup, and it is what it is. Of course,
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this guy was insisting this was hatred, and who else
thought that well. An MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd went
on live television yesterday and said, this.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Talk to me about the environment in which a shooting
like this happens.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yeah, and again, emphasize what you just emphasize. We don't
know any of the details of this that we don't
know if this was a supporter or shooting their gun
off in celebration or so, we have no idea about this.
But following up what was just said, he's been one
of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this
who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate
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speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I
always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,
which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's
the environment we're in that people just you can't stop
with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then
saying these awful words and.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Not expect awful actions to take place.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
And that's the unfortunate environment we're in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So it was Charlie Kirk's fault. He got assassinated because
he engaged in hate speech. And the hate speech I
guess an example would have been that guy in the
pink dress, and Kirk was just pointing out It's like,
well you could wear the dress, no one's going to
stop you, but that doesn't change your chromosomes. Now that's
not hate speech, that's biology, it's the truth. But here
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you have an MSNBC analyst and Matthew Dad's been in
politics for years. I think he's been dating Maria Shriver
for years, and he goes on TV and said, well,
awful words, awful actions are gonna take place. Fortunately, and
I was really surprised by this. MSNBC actually fired the guy, which, boy,
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when you get fired by MSNBC management, that is nearly
impossible to do. What Charlie Kirk was fighting for was
free speech. He can say that even if he's wrong,
even if you disagree, have a conversation, hash it out.
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Maybe he changes your mind, maybe you change his, Maybe
nobody changes their mind. Maybe you both walk away pissed off.
But he's allowed to say that, and you're allowed to
have a reaction. And what Matthew Dowd said was saying, well,
you're gonna say that, Hey, you're gonna get a bullet
in the neck and you die. Okay, I guess that
is that the rules. Now. It's been getting there for
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the last ten years or so. People have been fired, ostracized, shamed,
just pilloried over something they said or wrote, which used
to be legal in this country until the progressive movement
took over and a lot of it's online and online
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behavior is really crazy. Listen to this. Here's a seventy
seven year old man named Michael Mallinson. He's minding his
own business in Canada, two thousand miles away from where
the shooting happened. He got a frantic call from his daughter.
There were thousands of social media posts identifying Michael Mallinson
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as the sniper who murdered Charlie Kirk. It was fake
news that started on a fake news site which claimed
that Mallinson was the man seen being detained, the guy
who turned out to be you know, that old guy
who was not a suspect. But they arrested him. Briefly,
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will somebody on the internet this is a prank or
insanity or what decided that? Well, that guy was Michael Mallinson.
I guess maybe he looked like the guy they had
on his knees. And he was called a far left extremist,
pure evil. One post said he was a Democrat. These
posts were viewed more than three million times. The information
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came from a fake x account and it got shared
by millions. Everybody wanted to id the killer. He got
messages on Facebook rating him as a savage. He called
the local police. What are they gonna do? He can't
wipe himself off the internet? Stupid, stupid world. Social media
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has been one of the most imaging inventions that mankind
has ever created. Got more coming up.
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The podcast will be posted after four o'clock. One thing
you ought to listen to if you have a chance,
the first hour at one. So halfway through the first
hour we had we had Tucker. I'm sorry. Charlie Kirk's
pastor Rob McCoy on Rob McCoy was in Arizona with
the Kirk family and McCoy has his church here locally,
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it's the Godspeak Cavalry Chapel, the Godspeak Calvary Chapel in
Newbury Park. And he convinced Charlie Kirk a few years
ago to blend in his Christian beliefs with the political
message he for young people around the country. And Kirk
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did and became even more popular. And Rob McCoy came
on with us to talk about his feelings and he
was with the family, and he also talked about how
Kirk dealt with a lot of death threats. Every day,
he got hundreds of death threats.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
The left wing progressives were frightened of. I probably his influence,
probably that he was getting young people to see there
was another way to look at the world, not just
through a progressive lens, with all the pathologies that brings.
Progressivism has done so much damage to the city, to
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the state, to the country, to everything. It's just, you know,
short of the bubonic plague, it has really done a
lot of damage to society. And I guess there's a
lot of young people having grown up locked down with
with COVID and spending their lives staring at internet screens.
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The man especially being bullied into silence because they were
considered what were they considered misogynists, homophobes, toxic masculinity. That
charge was thrown at them. And I know, having three young,
three boys now in their twenties and their friends, what
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guys have been going through at high school and college.
There's been a tremendous amount of venom coming out of
teachers and professors and administrators. And I think a lot
of that Generation X, Generation X gen Z is really
fed up and sick of it. And they were attracted
to Charlie Kirk's message that there's other ways to look
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at the world because progressivism is insane. It's really sick
and twisted. And so he's had a tremendous growth and
popularity and that's what terrified these people, and that's why
he was killed. I mean, I guess you know, when
you get hundreds of death threats, you know one of
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them is going to come through. And hopefully we'll find
out maybe tonight if they have a lead on who
the guy is. But I tell you what this transgender insanity.
You had that shooting last week at the church in
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Minnesota where he had an angry transgender guy who shot
up dozens of kids at the church, and people started
saying things about these transgender killers. In fact, that was
the subject that Kirk was discussing the moment he was hit.
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And now you have on the cartridge this transgender engraving
some kind of phrase. More coming up. Conway is next,
and we'll see you tomorrow one o'clock. Deborah Mark is Oh,
she's in her car driving home. And Brigitta di Castino
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in for Michael Krozer live in the KFI twenty four
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here about one point thirty in the first hour of
the show, you'll want to hear the interview we did
with the pastor for Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's family.
(00:23):
He's based here in Newbury Park in Toura County, Pastor
Rob McCoy of Godspeak Cavalry Chapel. He was with the
Kirk family and when I spoke with him earlier in
the show, and that interview will be on the podcast
to be posted after four o'clock because he Kirk credited
with McCoy as convincing him to start mixing combining his
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Christian beliefs with his political messaging, and it made his
following even bigger. All right, let's now get back. It
looks as press conference hasn't happened yet. You have that
story about the ammunition with the transgender ideology engraving in it,
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but not much else new, and there's plenty of stuff
that the California government is doing to you, starting with
Gavin Newsom and the impending eight dollars a gallon gas.
We're going to talk to Michael Machee in just a moment.
He's the USC professor who alerted us to this coming up,
and now Newsom is frantically trying to He tried to
(01:33):
find a buyer for Valero, whose refinery is being shut
down in Benetia, and I guess nobody wanted it because
now he's offering them hundreds of millions of dollars to
keep the refinery running. Anyway, that would be our tax money.
And he's also suddenly really excited about new oil drilling.
He had shut down drilling to almost zero in the state.
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So let's talk to Michael Machee.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
How are you, hey, John, how are you today? First
before we get into this tough day, And I'd like
to compliment you and the KFI family for your coverage thoughtfulness.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Oh thank you. I'm Charlie Kirk, Thank you very much. Yeah,
it is it is really Uh, it's hard. It's hard
to do, but you know, people, people need to hear
other voices and hear people thinking and talking and going
through the whole grieving process, and so hopefully we're able
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to do that. Michael, you were the first to alert
the world that we were headed towards eight dollars gas
and I know you got a lot of blowback and
insults and smears from the NEWSOB administration. But now it
looks like he's a convert and his actions indicate that
he seems to be in a panic. He was trying
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to get an outside buyer for the Valero Benetia refinery.
What happened to that plan?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you know who wants to buy a refinery in California.
You know, you have a governor whose flip flop from
demonizing the industry, alleging price galloging very vocal about refiners
ripping people off in the high gasoline prices, and so
irrespective of the enticement money of two hundred and eighty million,
(03:23):
which is the number that was published to have the
refinery stay operating in the state of California that was
offered to Valero, or thought about being offered to Valero
and trying to find a foreign buyer to buy the
refinery in Benicia. Who's going to enter the state under
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these conditions. Even Chevron has warned quite vocally in the
last two weeks about the things need to change in California.
So Gavin and the gang in Sacramento are locked down
in secret meetings trying to con ure up a solution
to honestly a problem that they created. And so today,
(04:05):
the irrespective of what we're saying or hearing, you know,
the price of gasoline today is forty five percent higher
in California than across the nation. And since Gavin has
taken office in January of twenty nineteen, California gasoline prices
have increased by forty two percent. The state excise tax
has increased by twenty nine percent, our refinery capacity has
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declined by twenty one percent, our production of oil in
state has declined by forty five percent. And our drilling permits,
which is sort of the centerpiece of the of the
new idea, they plummeted by ninety eight percent.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh my god, he got rid of ninety eight percent
of the of the drilling permits.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, the permits plummeted by a ninety seven point twenty
six percent over his administration.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So now the latest idea is to is to allow
for up to two thousand drilling permitits in Kerrent County.
Now most of those have already been applied for, and
you know we're sitting in litigation or suspension. But the
latest centerpiece is to allow up to two thousand new
drilling permits and Current which is great. We need that production,
(05:20):
there's no question about. It's terrific for Current County, terrific
for California. Most importantly, that production is needed to maintain
the pipeline, and I think we had that discussion a
few weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, without enough oil going through the pipeline, it's going
to get shut down because this is not enough oil pressure, right.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So if it gets shut down, then data effects the
northern California refineries and so they could lose as much
as another eighty to one hundred and twenty thousand bars
a day of gasoline production if that pipeline shuts down.
But there's more to it than that pipeline though in
Current County, because the economics of the oil global oil
(06:02):
industry come into play. It's the cost of production and
the break even points, right. So the reason why the
price of gasoline is down across California and throughout the
nation is really directly attributed to Trump's policies. So we've
had to drill, baby drill. We've increased production, and since
assuming office in January, crude price oils. The price of
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crude oil has dropped nineteen percent under this administration. That
costs the drop in gasoline prices at the retail level
in our level. So but our differential is still forty
five percent higher than the rest of the nation. So
the point is, even though they're increasing or thinking about
(06:46):
increasing production in current county with these with these permits,
there's no guarantee that once you have the permit, you're
going to drill. There's no guarantee that once you have
the permit, you're going to find oil. And there's no
guarantee that once you have the oil, you're gonna have
sufficient oil that pipeline to keep it alive. And so
the state needs to look more holistically across other sources
(07:08):
La County, Venturer County, Santa Barbara County, you know, for
additional oil. The point is, under all in any scenario,
the cost of gasoline is going to go up.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We had an assemblyment on from the Bakersfield area the
other day and he spent fifty he has spent fifty
years in the business, and he agreed with what you
said that we're looking at, you know, eight to ten
dollars a gallon over time. Now, what about this plan
just to give Benetia hundreds of millions of dollars to
(07:43):
keep the refinery open, using state tax money to keep
it open.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, that's the last number I saw that was published
was two hundred and eighty million dollars, And ostensibly that
was for to help out with maintenance and repairs and
sustainability of it. But that's really, you know, a clandescent
way of subsidizing gasoline prices in the state. But you know,
(08:09):
if you really think it through, if you're if you're
a refiner now and you see that the Nancier has
been offered two hundred and eighty million, I would think
other refineries are sort of lining up saying, gee, I
think I'll go out of business too. Where's my two
hundred and eighty million, where's my five hundred million, where's
my one hundred million?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is this is such a disastrous policy. There's really
no way out of it. You simply have to drastically
reduce the taxes and drastically reduce all the regulations. That's
the only way to fix this.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Absolutely so today if we just look at the at
the cost of legislation today, all right, the way the
way our taxes and fees work in the state, it's
about twenty seven percent of the price of gasoline at
the pump, and when you add the federal into it,
it's about twenty nine to thirty percent for the price
(08:58):
of gasoline at the pump. We have the highest state
excise tax in the country at sixty one point sixty
two point one cents a gallon. So it's you know,
it's it's a fantasy land in Sacramento as to how
they're going to go about fixing this. What is required
is a complete repeal of existing legislation and a restructuring
(09:21):
of the legislation to provide, you know, an economically viable
and regulatorily hospitable, hospitable environment for these refiners and producers
to operate in.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
All right, Michael Michee, thank you for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hey, thanks you, John.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Michael Michee from usc MARK coming up.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We are on every day from one until fourth and
after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the
iHeart app. You know, after Charlie Kirk was assassin, Gavin
Newsom ran right to X and sent out a tweet
about how vile and disgusting. Uh, this assassination was and
(10:12):
this all has to stop. There is nobody on earth
who's a bigger phony than Gavin Newsom. I'm actually astonished.
I am in awe of him. I don't know how
he does it. I mean we have covered hundreds and
hundreds of phonies from all the industries and this he's
(10:33):
this is he is like Michael Jordan or show Hey
o Tani. I mean, nobody touches him when it comes
to the shamelessness of his hypocrisy and phoniness. He went
on and this just just turned up today a podcast
called The Siren, and he was talking about the redistricting.
(10:58):
You know, Texas is going to redraw the district, so
California has to fight back and redraw theirs. And here's
what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Nothing conservative about this, by definition, nothing conservative about that.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
This is radical.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Rigging of a midterm election, Radical rigging of an election destroying,
vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So I'm sorry. I know some people's sensibilities.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I respect and appreciate that, but right now, with all
due respect, we're walking down a damn different path.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
We're fighting fire with fire, and we going to punch
these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There we go, punch these sons of bleeps in the mouth.
A call to violence from Gavin Newsom over redrawing congressional districts,
and then he stands up and decries the violence and politics.
(12:00):
That was pretty aggressive. That was from August twentieth. I
don't want to defame the guy and make him look
more ridiculous than he already is.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I want to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, there you go, Yeah, mister tough guy. And believe me,
all those Texas politicians they're really afraid of you. They
that the last thing they want is Gavin Newsom punching them.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I want to punch these sons of in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You imagine the pain from a Gavin Newso punch.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I want to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I mean, he is just such a clown. Please please
run for president. Please be two years of just golden material.
All right, when we come back, there's some strange stories
connected to the Charlie Kirk assassination. We're gonna talk about
(13:00):
out the mystery man with a beard and the retired
banker who was whose reputation was completely destroyed. He was
living quietly in Canada when millions of people on the
Internet decided that he killed Charlie Kirk. Tell you about
it we come back.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We are on every day from one until four o'clock.
Last call out here for the moist line eight seven
seven moist eighty six eight seven seven moisteady six. Or
you use a talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Tomorrow
we're gonna play it twice in the three o'clock hour.
And certainly there's been plenty of terrible things going on
this week that you can carry on about. We went
(13:49):
driving in today. I thought we were going to have
a lot new to talk about with the Charlie Kirk assassination,
because they were going to have a press conference. They
said there's been rapid developments in the case that Cash Betel,
the director of the FBI was flying in from Washington
and it was supposed to be a three forty five.
Well now it's three thirty seven and they haven't come
(14:14):
out to say anything. They are looking for a guy.
You might have seen his photo online, a tall, thin,
young guy with a wrap around sunglasses, a baseball cap,
a black T shirt with an American flag and a
bald eagle as part of the logo on the front
(14:35):
of it. And they have found his sniper's nest they
call it up on the roof of that building about
two hundred yards away. They found his rifle tossed in
the in the woods, along with other evidence. They have
a they have footprints, they have an arm print. They're
(14:57):
looking for DNA, and they have cartridges, unspent cartridges that
were in the rifle that had engravings on it, much
like Luigi Menngeone had engravings in the bullets that he
shot at that healthcare executive in New York City. Remember
(15:19):
it was it was the title of a book that
somebody had written about the ways the insurance companies screw
over their their customers and was denied defend in something else,
and that was engraved on on the cartridge or the bullets, Well,
same thing here. All they're doing is saying it describes
(15:40):
transgender ideology and anti fascist ideology. So you could bet
what the impetus for this was. And it was right
at the moment that Charlie Kirk was engaging about transgenderism
with an audience member. And I don't just me. Maybe
(16:05):
I'm being conspirational, but I just think there was a
connection between that question at that moment and the bullet
that came at Charlie Kirk. And so I'll be honest,
I was aware of Charlie Kirk, but I never really
followed him very much. I didn't know. I knew he
was a great organizer of young voters. I knew Elon
(16:25):
Musk had contributed a lot of money during the Trump
campaign to Charlie Kirk's organization Turning Point for get out
the vote effort, which worked brilliantly, because I remember that
the Trump the Trump reelection campaign got a lot of
criticism that they weren't using traditional channels to get out
(16:48):
the vote, but they were experimenting with Charlie Kirk's organization,
but Musk paid for it, and they got a tremendous
increase in young voters through his organization. It's all that
I knew, but I never really spent any time listening
to him. I know we had a radio show in town,
obviously a very popular podcast. I want to play a
(17:13):
clip that was sent to me. I played it earlier
in the show, and I want to pair it with
a second clip, and maybe this will explain what happened.
Don't know for sure, but I have a feeling based
on that engraving on the bullet that we're in the
ballpark here, So let's play. Let's play the clip. This
is a transgender man. Well, I mean he's a biological man.
(17:34):
He's dressed in a pink dress with white frilly lace.
He's got beard, stubble, oversized, dark rim, glasses, a bit chunky,
and his voice you'll hear first challenging Charlie Kirk on
Kirk's transgender opinions.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You're part of the problem, I think with the hatred
on trans people.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's really not that deep. Like, if someone wants to
dress up however they want, that's totally fine.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Okay, so I think I'm not I'm not preventing you
from dressing Yeah. Yeah, However, let me ask you a
question I will blush this out. So let's pretend you
say you are a woman. Yeah, I know you are
a man, but I refuse to call you a woman. Okay,
who's the hateful one? I would say you are? I
mean you're going to me and shame me, not a
(18:20):
second man, I'm the hateful one. It's really just like
it is never common courtesy to lie. You do not
become a thing just because you say it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You are the thing.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
And guess what, nobody in the history of the species
that was born xx or born x y and transition
is able to change their chromosomes. Every one of your
cells is coded either xx or x y. But then
it is an insult to women everywhere in this audience
and across the country. That's saying that you could just
have wear makeup and dress like a woman, undergo surgery,
that you magically become a woman. And it is the
(18:51):
abolition of women and is the abolition of reality. And
we see great, unjust human suffering because of it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
And he's right, XX means you're and x Y means
your man. That's biology. And no matter how you dress up,
and you know, listen to what he said closely, because
you can do whatever you want, you can call yourself
whatever you want, but don't expect me to go along
with it, because at the root of this is your
biological chromosomal makeup, and it is what it is. Of course,
(19:21):
this guy was insisting this was hatred, and who else
thought that well. An MSNBC political analyst Matthew Dowd went
on live television yesterday and said, this.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Talk to me about the environment in which a shooting
like this happens.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Yeah, and again, emphasize what you just emphasize. We don't
know any of the details of this that we don't
know if this was a supporter or shooting their gun
off in celebration or so, we have no idea about this.
But following up what was just said, he's been one
of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this
who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate
(20:01):
speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I
always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words,
which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's
the environment we're in that people just you can't stop
with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then
saying these awful words and.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Not expect awful actions to take place.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
And that's the unfortunate environment we're in.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So it was Charlie Kirk's fault. He got assassinated because
he engaged in hate speech. And the hate speech I
guess an example would have been that guy in the
pink dress, and Kirk was just pointing out It's like,
well you could wear the dress, no one's going to
stop you, but that doesn't change your chromosomes. Now that's
not hate speech, that's biology, it's the truth. But here
(20:53):
you have an MSNBC analyst and Matthew Dad's been in
politics for years. I think he's been dating Maria Shriver
for years, and he goes on TV and said, well,
awful words, awful actions are gonna take place. Fortunately, and
I was really surprised by this. MSNBC actually fired the guy, which, boy,
(21:16):
when you get fired by MSNBC management, that is nearly
impossible to do. What Charlie Kirk was fighting for was
free speech. He can say that even if he's wrong,
even if you disagree, have a conversation, hash it out.
(21:40):
Maybe he changes your mind, maybe you change his, Maybe
nobody changes their mind. Maybe you both walk away pissed off.
But he's allowed to say that, and you're allowed to
have a reaction. And what Matthew Dowd said was saying, well,
you're gonna say that, Hey, you're gonna get a bullet
in the neck and you die. Okay, I guess that
is that the rules. Now. It's been getting there for
(22:02):
the last ten years or so. People have been fired, ostracized, shamed,
just pilloried over something they said or wrote, which used
to be legal in this country until the progressive movement
took over and a lot of it's online and online
(22:23):
behavior is really crazy. Listen to this. Here's a seventy
seven year old man named Michael Mallinson. He's minding his
own business in Canada, two thousand miles away from where
the shooting happened. He got a frantic call from his daughter.
There were thousands of social media posts identifying Michael Mallinson
(22:48):
as the sniper who murdered Charlie Kirk. It was fake
news that started on a fake news site which claimed
that Mallinson was the man seen being detained, the guy
who turned out to be you know, that old guy
who was not a suspect. But they arrested him. Briefly,
(23:09):
will somebody on the internet this is a prank or
insanity or what decided that? Well, that guy was Michael Mallinson.
I guess maybe he looked like the guy they had
on his knees. And he was called a far left extremist,
pure evil. One post said he was a Democrat. These
posts were viewed more than three million times. The information
(23:32):
came from a fake x account and it got shared
by millions. Everybody wanted to id the killer. He got
messages on Facebook rating him as a savage. He called
the local police. What are they gonna do? He can't
wipe himself off the internet? Stupid, stupid world. Social media
(23:58):
has been one of the most imaging inventions that mankind
has ever created. Got more coming up.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
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Speaker 1 (24:14):
The podcast will be posted after four o'clock. One thing
you ought to listen to if you have a chance,
the first hour at one. So halfway through the first
hour we had we had Tucker. I'm sorry. Charlie Kirk's
pastor Rob McCoy on Rob McCoy was in Arizona with
the Kirk family and McCoy has his church here locally,
(24:42):
it's the Godspeak Cavalry Chapel, the Godspeak Calvary Chapel in
Newbury Park. And he convinced Charlie Kirk a few years
ago to blend in his Christian beliefs with the political
message he for young people around the country. And Kirk
(25:03):
did and became even more popular. And Rob McCoy came
on with us to talk about his feelings and he
was with the family, and he also talked about how
Kirk dealt with a lot of death threats. Every day,
he got hundreds of death threats.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
The left wing progressives were frightened of. I probably his influence,
probably that he was getting young people to see there
was another way to look at the world, not just
through a progressive lens, with all the pathologies that brings.
Progressivism has done so much damage to the city, to
(25:55):
the state, to the country, to everything. It's just, you know,
short of the bubonic plague, it has really done a
lot of damage to society. And I guess there's a
lot of young people having grown up locked down with
with COVID and spending their lives staring at internet screens.
(26:19):
The man especially being bullied into silence because they were
considered what were they considered misogynists, homophobes, toxic masculinity. That
charge was thrown at them. And I know, having three young,
three boys now in their twenties and their friends, what
(26:42):
guys have been going through at high school and college.
There's been a tremendous amount of venom coming out of
teachers and professors and administrators. And I think a lot
of that Generation X, Generation X gen Z is really
fed up and sick of it. And they were attracted
to Charlie Kirk's message that there's other ways to look
(27:06):
at the world because progressivism is insane. It's really sick
and twisted. And so he's had a tremendous growth and
popularity and that's what terrified these people, and that's why
he was killed. I mean, I guess you know, when
you get hundreds of death threats, you know one of
(27:29):
them is going to come through. And hopefully we'll find
out maybe tonight if they have a lead on who
the guy is. But I tell you what this transgender insanity.
You had that shooting last week at the church in
(27:50):
Minnesota where he had an angry transgender guy who shot
up dozens of kids at the church, and people started
saying things about these transgender killers. In fact, that was
the subject that Kirk was discussing the moment he was hit.
(28:10):
And now you have on the cartridge this transgender engraving
some kind of phrase. More coming up. Conway is next,
and we'll see you tomorrow one o'clock. Deborah Mark is Oh,
she's in her car driving home. And Brigitta di Castino
(28:33):
in for Michael Krozer live in the KFI twenty four
hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt
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