December 30, 2024 • 26 mins
ABC’s Shannon Kingston joins the show to speak about former president Jimmy Carter’s passing at 100 years old. Biden shredded for calling on Trump to emulate ‘decency’ shown by Carter. The number of murders kept falling this year, but fear of crime persists.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Welcome to KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app. Happy to be sitting in the big boy
chair today and tomorrow from one to four. I believe
John is were you telling me he was in mar
Lago consulting with the Trump transition team, I think, on
(00:22):
the best strategies to begin the New year. Beautiful sixty
three degrees in sunshine in Burbank, California. We sort of
ease into this awkward time between Christmas and New Year's
when people are working, they're not working, they're sort of working.
So the big news, of course, as you've been following,
is the death of President Carter. Jimmy Carter died at
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the age of one hundred, and it's fascinating to read
about the remarkable life he led. We're going to talk
about that in detail, but first I want to get
the latest on the plans for his funeral, on how
he's being remembered from Jannon Kingston, who's with ABC News,
a State Department correspondent.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Shannon, what do you have for us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well, Jimmy Carter is not remembered as a great president
by historians, but he is remembered as a great former
president because part of that is he had four decades
basically after leaving the White House and use that time
to promote peace abroad, to resolve conflicts, and really champion
these kind of international global public health issues, bringing some
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of them to a close. So that's part of the
reason that we're seeing such an outpouring of support and
really admiration for the former president who left after being
defeated by Ronald Reagan handedly after only one term in office.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Right It's interesting because that was immediately what people went to.
It's not so much his presidency, which of course had
a lot of huge moments, the Energy crisis, the Camp
David Accords, but then his post presidency, as you mentioned,
spanned decades, and we don't really talk about other forms
in that context quite to that degree, do we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's right, And part of the reason is, I mean,
if you look at Joe Biden right now, when he
leaves after one term in office, you know, it's I
don't think I'm I'm overstepping to say that. It's hard
to imagine that he'll have decades of time left and
energy to devote himself to these causes. So Carter had
years and years to really rehab his public image. And
it's something that what we've seen with older presidents. It's
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just not the same.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So what's the mood in you're in Washington? Now, what's
the mood there?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's right, Well, you kind of hit the nail on
the head when you said that. It's that kind of
awkward time at the end of the year where you're
not quite sure who's working. Everybody's kind of doing their
own thing. But definitely, plans have already turned to the
state funeral that's being planned, all of the pompet's circumstance
that goes into honoring a former president or any national
figure really of this merit. All those plans are underway,
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so you know, we're getting ready for that, and really,
I think it is a moment of celebrating this long
life and all these contributions, you know, more so than
just outpourings of sadness or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But we're working.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are working. That is true. Some people are still working,
but they're not all me and you.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Of course, yeah, because here in the studios like KFI,
I'm looking at CNN, I'm looking at Fox News, I'm
looking at MSNBC, and they all have, you know, full
coverage family and friends, remember Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter's legacy
funeral set for January ninth, and I mean, it's just
it's just.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
A remarkable outpouring of love for the man.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I mean, in contrast to say, the way people feel
about former President Trump and his reelection and President Biden,
even going back to Bush Clinton Obama, it's unusual to me,
at least to see just this universal love and support
for a former president.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right. And part of that, of course, Jimmy Carter was
on hospice for some time. He had great domestic contributions
seeking have to have for humanity. But it really is
hard to say, if you know, some of the controversies
get airbrushed after the fact because you know, so much
time has passed. Because there are definitely moments when Carter
royaled Democrats and Republicans. I mean, it's you don't have
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to go too far back. I think the Clinton administration
to think about when he was meeting with Fidel Castro,
and many people said that that was basically legitimizing Castro's
communist regime. Of course, someone who you know, did some
terrible things to the people of Cuba, not what widely
liked by Cubans of America, that's for sure. And you
know there are different times too when he would you know,
maybe some people say he'd cozy up too much to
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the Soviets. Looking back on it now, a lot of
people give him credit for setting the stage for the
end of the Cold War, But certainly while it was
all playing out, there was a lot more tension that
we're seeing now in hindsight.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So tell me what it's like covering the State Department
these days.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, this is another time of transition. I think I
was going to say the new year, out with the
old and with the new. We're all preparing for a
new administration to come in and wondering what it will
be like, because certainly there are going to be some constant,
some similarities. Of course, we're still dealing with conflicts in
the Middle East, China is still in the major challenge
the war in Ukraine. There's going to be a lot
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of new personnel because about half of State Department employees,
you know, especially the players at the top of the
pyramid are public appointees rather not career diplomats sore. Everybody's
expecting Senator Mark Rubio to be confirmed. Obviously has a
lot of friends in the Senate. I have a lot
of expertise, and it's pretty widely liked. But the question
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is is how all the dynamics, how every you know,
Coggin Washington is going to work together because we do
know from covering the Trump administration all of these decisions
really are going to be made at the top.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So were you there in the first Trump administration as well?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I was that we covered the White House and Capitol Hill.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So the different side of it from your perspective. I
know we're getting a little bit off President Carter, but
just interesting to talk to people who are actually there.
I mean, the biggest difference between covering the Trump administration
and the Biden ministrations have been what.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I think, it's going back to the first year of it.
I mean, it did feel that when Trump was in office,
you could have had this anything can happen. I would
just show up at the beginning of the day and say,
all right, let's see what's going to happen. Biden administration
was a lot more regimented, but I think they learned
pretty pretty soon that you can't just have good intentions
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right for order and you know, say, hey, we're going
to be the adults in the room. There's going to
be a curve balls that come your way. And as
soon as you know. I remember being in the White
House when the Afghanistan withdrawal was happening and seeing kind
of for the first time, you know, this kind of
feeling of panic, this feeling of you know, some staffers
being you know, feeling like they were over their heads
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because obviously this massive thing is happening. So you know, now,
as we go into the second Trump administration, I think
part of it is, you know, don't don't assume you
know what's going to happen, right because I think we
do have a very different incoming president. Even from where
Donald Trump was four years ago. The world has changed, obviously,
I think he's changed, his team has changed. So it's
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hard to say, if you know the past, is any
kind of instruction manual as now.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, I think the safest thing to say is be
prepared for for anything. Buckle your seat belt, get ready
for a ride, all those sort of cliches that apply
to President Trump, who seems a I guess you'd call
him unpredictable.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Right, that's right. But you know, part of when my job,
of course is to you know, try to call balls
and strikes and figure it out in the moment. We
don't always have, you know, the hindsight as the aspect
of Jimmy Carter will looks back on for sure, we're
in the moment here, but that chaos can work to
his advantage, especially on you know, matters of foreign policy,
because a lot of people, if they don't know what
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he's going to do, I think it really brings out
a lot of makes a lot of other world leaders
cautious in certain circumstances because they don't know, you know,
if he sets a thread, if he sets the red line,
they're pretty sure there's going to be consequences that they
cross it, you know, in a way that perhaps hasn't
been the case to another administration.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, Shannon Kingston, ABC News State Department correspondent, appreciate your time,
your insight. Don't make any long term plans for twenty
twenty five. Probably going to be on the road on
airplanes a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Probably Well let's write it out and we should talk
in a couple months and you know, figure out where
these public pieces are falling together.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Shannon, appreciate your time. Happy Newear to you and your family.
Shannon Kingston from ABC News. I'm Phil Schuman in for
John coblt with you from one to four today. We
have a lot more to discuss about President Carter, but
I've been online and looking up some interesting facts and
figures try to give you some insight into the man
that perhaps you haven't heard in the past twenty four
hours or so.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We're just getting warmed up here.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
We're going to talk Nathan Hawkman, which brings it more
to the local level of how the new year is
going to affect us here in southern California. There's an
update on the Menendez Brothers, one of our favorite stories.
Of course, we can't go through a session here on
KFI without talking about homelessness and what the national trends
mean for locally, which is the exact opposite of that.
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And then you have any favorite headlines from twenty twenty four?
What was your best story, the most significant story of
twenty twenty four in your mind? You remember, if you're
listening on the iHeartRadio app. We'd love you to click
on the microphone icon and you can record a comment,
and we'd like to play some of those some of
those on the air.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
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Speaker 4 (09:40):
As you know, we are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
I'm Phil Schuman from Fox eleven News, most recently in
for John co Belt today and tomorrow from one to four.
John gets a little well deserved time off during the holidays,
but I'm working and I'm happy to be here, and
I'm looking for some feedback from you on the.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
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Speaker 4 (10:01):
You have anything interesting planned for New Year's of course,
the big New Year's Eve celebration in New York City.
Times Square. Heard somebody talking on the radio this morning,
and I forget what I was listening to. They said
one billion people will be in Times Square for New
Year's Eve. I'm like, hm, I don't that maybe a
little crowded. Maybe they think what they meant to say
was that maybe a billion people around the world will
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be focused on Times Square in New York. Haven't heard
much about plans for Southern California's New Year's Eve. Usually
there's parties down in Grand Park in downtown LA.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'll look that up for you. We're going to talk
a lot about that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
As a matter of fact, this year, for the first
time in a long time, Fox eleven is going to
be carrying the Rose Parade on New Year's Morning with
Alex Michaelson and Christine Devine. Hal Eisner has a report
coming up on the Fox leven News today on the
economic impact of the Rose Bowl the Rose Parade. It's
an exciting time to be in southern California. You remember,
this is what the time of year when you know
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you're free. It's fourteen degrees in Franklin, New Hampshire, under
thirty feet of snow. And they look here at Southern California,
at the Rose Parade and at sunny and seventy degrees,
and everybody moves here. Then they realize that a house
that has one bedroom and half a bath cost two
million dollars and they can't afford to live here. And
all that goes along with the pros and cons of
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Southern California. I've been here since nineteen eighty three, and
I love it. But hey, it is a challenge to
get through the day. I mean, wake up this morning.
Listen to Gigi Grasse Yet from Fox eleven News LAPD
shoot and kill a naked homeless man who was firing
a gun at a motel on Ventura Boulevard in Woodland Hills.
(11:43):
Like great, Welcome to Southern California. You know what they
call this Monday. I mean it's just the crime is
just the I would say crime. See if you agree
with me. Obviously, crime and homelessness, the fear of crime
and the challenge of overcoming homelessness two of the biggest issues.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're going to get into that later on in this hour.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But we were talking about former President Carter, President Trump,
President Biden. By the way, Trump is in mar A Lago,
big New Year's Eve festivities there. President Biden continues his
much deserved vacation in Saint Croix in the US Virgin Islands.
And do you remember Kamala Harris. She ran for president
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a while ago. I mean talk about low profile since
the November election. I mean, I believe she's in Southern
California and her home in Brentwood. Over the holidays, there's
been some TFRs temporary flight restrictions that go along with
the vice president of the president. But talk about keeping
a low profile since the election. Wow, and one of
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the things that will a little bit more about President Carter.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Then we can we can move on.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But one of the things about that struck me as
an article that I read in the New York Times
about President or Jimmy Carter. Here's the headline, Jimmy Carter
was right about materialism, but alas wrong about us. So
when you look at leaders, you want them to inspire you, right,
whether it's the president, whether it's the governor, whether it's
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a mayor, whether it's a city council person, whether it's
a member of the Bard of Supervisors in Los Angeles
or Orange County, Riverside County, San Berdo County. Can you
name a leader that you feel is genuinely inspirational to
you in the mold of say a Kennedy or an MLK.
I mean, I have a hard time looking to someone
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and saying, wow, that person really inspires us. So President Carter,
when he was an office during the energy crisis way
back in the nineteen seventies seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I believe it was he gave a speech that was came.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
To be known the Malaise Speech because he was blaming
Americans for problems that they hadn't created, and that presidents
were supposed to.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Inflation the Iranian hostage crisis.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
So he called this speech the Crisis of Confidence, and
he challenged Americans to acknowledge personal failings. Could you imagine
President Trump doing that? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So the quote.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Which struck me was too many of us now tend
to worship self indulgence and consumption. Too many of us
tend to worship self indulgence and consumption. Human identity is
no longer defined by what one does, but by what
one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming
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things does not satisfy our longing for meaning, which is
really something to think about in this holiday season as
we reflect on the year past and we look ahead
to the year that's coming up, and set goals and
make resolutions and try to plan to ways to make
our our lives better. Are we going to lose weight?
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Are we going to exercise? Are we going to give
more to charity? Are we going to spend more time volunteering.
Are we going to dedicate our lives to helping others
and making Southern California a better place to live in?
And how do we do that? And the course, Remember
we're talking about this in nineteen seventy eight. This is
before social media and largely before the Internet became popular,
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which to me serves to glorify consumption at the expense
of meaningful human interaction.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
The iPhone.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean, how many times have you gone, say, to
a restaurant, or gone to a public place or even
as I mentioned, I was at Sofi Stadium for the
Rams game, I was at the Intuit Dome for the
Clippers game, thanks largely to the generosity of friends and
everybody's staring at their iPhone. I'm like, dude, you're at
a basketball game. Pay attention. So I just think the
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President Carter, former President Carter, was so far ahead of
us in philosophizing about the meaning of life, and that
you mentioned some of the books he wrote values and
it's a message that I think still resonates so loudly today,
but one that not a lot of us seem like
they want to hear. I mean, even incoming President Trump
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is talking about making America great again, and it seems
like a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The subtext of that is.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Consumption, consumer goods, you know, buying things, building things, which
is not necessarily bad, but you know, at the expense
of what. So maybe during this time when he passed away,
and again we're at the end of the year, when
we're looking back and reflecting and looking ahead and sending goals,
maybe one goal could be to spend less time worrying
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about consumption and more time worry about giving back. And
believe me when I say that, I'm right at the
top of the list, because you know, I got my
new wireless headphone for the holidays, and clothes and you know,
bought things. But I also, you know, spend some time
volunteering and spend some time online making donations. So I
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think we have to find a balance, right and again,
as always interested in your thoughts, click on the microphone
icon on the iHeartRadio app and record your message and
we'll play them on the air when we come back.
I mentioned crime. Waking up this morning to the shocking news.
I guess I shouldn't say shocking, the sad news of
the LAPD shooting a gun wielding suspect.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Out in the valley.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
The numbers of murders is falling if you keep track
of these things. But the fear of crime, it's like
the fear persists regardless of what the statistics say.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Why is that and what we can do about it?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
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Speaker 1 (18:02):
Music is so much fun.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You ever spend time on YouTube just listening to vintage
acts and songs and performances from years gone by with
a good set of headphones. That's a great way. That's
a great way to spend a few hours. I was
gonna say waste some time, but it's really not a
waste of time. I love music and we were talking
earlier before we went on the air about jelly Roll.
(18:25):
You heard from one of the bumps come out of
the break right with New Republic jelly Roll. If you
listen to me here, I'm Phil Schuman in for John Colebert.
If you've listened to me here on KFI and the
opportunities I've had to just sit in as a host over.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
The past few months. You know that I'm a big
Jelly Roll fan.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
We saw him at Crypto dot com put on a
phenomenal show.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's just his story.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We were talking the last break about political leaders and
the need for inspiration. Well you can get inspiration lots
of different ways, and Jelly Roll, who If you don't
know his backstory, it's worth looking up. And he's spent
you know, ten years in prison from a juvenile and
it was early twenties, drug sales, alcohol problems. I mean,
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he just a whole string of things that would normally,
you know, set you back and knock you down, and
he's overcome them all and he's triumphing triumphing is that
the right word, and becomes such a huge star in
the music industry.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But it's not just about his music.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He just preaches this message of overcoming adversity and how
we've all had issues in our lives or we know
a family member or a friend who has, and how
the power of the therapeutic power of music. That's the
phrase that really stuck with me. All right, So enough
about me and Jelly Role I've never met the man.
I would love to. He seems like he's kind of
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everywhere these days. But he's an incredible songwriter, incredible performer,
and his personal story is really interesting. So we're going
to talk about crime because we just seems like we
have to do that here in southern California. Not that
I want to, you know, bring you down on this
beautiful December thirtieth day. But as I mentioned, I woke
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up this morning and turned on the news as I
normally do. I have the AMFM clock radio with the earpiece.
Do you remember the transistor radio type earpieces? Anybody nod
on their heads and no, like boy, that guy is
like old. So it's got KFI on it. And then
I flip on Fox eleven usually, So we wake up
this morning. There's a naked, crazed gunman firing shots at
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a motel and Ventura boulevarded Woodland Hills. The labd comes,
swat comes, They end up shooting and killing him. We
don't know the details of that yet, or who he was,
what kind of crimes he may or may not committed
before today, but it got me thinking about the headlines
again today. One of the headlines which is good news,
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is that the number of murders keep falling. This year,
murders spike during the pandemic. They became a crime. Is
sort of a focus of President elect Donald J. Donald
Trump's campaign message. Polls show Americans, of course, see it
as a major problem. It's true everywhere, not just here
in southern California. So many high profile homicides. I mean,
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who wasn't horrified by that killing of the homeless woman
who was set on fire in the New York subway.
But the latest numbers, and they lagged behind, is that
in twenty twenty three, the numbers of murders fell at
the sharpest rate ever recorded.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
This is data that comes from the FBI.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
That's another thing that's frustrating for me as a reporter
a lot of times, and I've covered a lot of
crime and a lot of murders and a lot of
year end summaries from law enforcement is getting the accurate
statistics is often challenging, and you have to question, Okay,
where are these statistics coming from? And so these numbers
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are from what the FBI calls a uniform crime report,
so local jurisdictions, the LAPD, the Sheriff's Department, Burbank PD,
pick your law enforcement agency. They report these things to
the FBI, and the FBI compiles them and they have
what's called the real time Crime Index, which is, you know,
getting a little bit far into the weeds. But the
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point is these are considered reliable stats, and these are
the ones that people go by. Is that the number
of murders fell at the steepest rate ever, so some
numbers I don't have, LA's right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I've been trying to find that. It's a little bit tricky.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But Detroit last year recorded the lowest number of homicides
in fifty seven years. It's on track to see even
fewer in twenty twenty four. Again, these are numbers for
twenty twenty three. Same thing in San Francisco, same thing
in Chicago. Other crime categories that have had declines car
theft falling about twenty percent nationwide, including some sharp.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Decreases in cities like New York City and DC.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Of all things, they mentioned Long Beach, California seeing an
increase an increase in violent crime. So the point is
you can argue about statistics all you want, and certainly
good news we want to see the numbers going down
rather than up. But it's the fear of crime that
is the issue for me and so many others, because again,
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when you wake up and you hear the news this
morning about the shooting out in Woodland Hills, or whether
it's break ins in Encino or in West la which
would traditionally considered and I say quote unquote air quotes
around safer neighborhoods, or whether it's a stabbing on the Metro.
It's just it's this fear, the unpredictability, the concern that
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the homeless person who in years past you would sort
of walk by and avoid on the sidewalk, is gonna
pull out a knife and stab you. I mean that
led to directly the fear of crime, directly to the
election of Nathan Hofkman, the new Los Angeles County District Attorney.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You remember George Gascon rightly.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Or wrongly, I would argue maybe wrongly again, according to statistics,
was perceived as soft on crime. He survived to recall attempts,
but certainly didn't survive the election in November. We're going
to talk a little bit about how his plans are
to implement his sort of tougher on crime agenda. If
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you will, We're going to talk about that when we
come back after the top.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Of the hour.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But it's do you feel that way? I mean again,
drop me a message on the iHeartRadio app. I mean,
do you feel safe? Do you feel afraid? Does it
depend on where you live? Does it depend on whether
it's daytime or nighttime? Having a lot of arguments in
my family about taking the Metro. My son was really
critical of me for taking my wife on the Metro
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in a recent trip downtown, not so much the trip there,
but the trip coming home.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's like, promise me you'll ever do that again, which
is sad to say.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And I feel like I'm not giving into the praised
homeless who make you feel afraid on the Metro. If
I want to take the Metro from downtown LA to
Studio City or to the North Hollywood Universal City station,
who are they.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
To intimidate me into not doing that?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And then it's like, well, that sounds great, but you
also have to have to live in the real world, right,
which I get.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's just it's it's sad to see.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I mean, I was driving to so far, as I
mentioned on Saturday, getting off the four or five three
you at Manchester and just this crazed homeless individuals wandering
around the off ramps with just piles of trash in
this encampment. And again we've made significant strides into cleaning
that up, but we have so much more work to do.
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So it's just, you know, the challenges of living here
in southern California. Yes, it's great most of the time,
weather is beautiful. You know, there's so much to do here,
whether it's the beach, the mountains, this opportunity for everybody,
but it comes at a huge cost, whether it's our
peace of mind, whether it's it's the ability just to
afford to live here, whether it's the fear of wildfires.
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If you're fortunate enough to be in Malibu or not.
You know, it comes at a cost. I mean, some
people are packing up and heading out. But again that's
a narrative that is also contrasted by the fact that
more people move in than move out. In your achieve
you're pursuing your dreams here in Southern California, right, at
least that's the theory for most of us, at least
(26:27):
I came here for that. What about you drop me
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Speaker 2 (26:44):
Brigita, Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.
You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Welcome to KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app. Happy to be sitting in the big boy
chair today and tomorrow from one to four. I believe
John is were you telling me he was in mar
Lago consulting with the Trump transition team, I think, on
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the best strategies to begin the New year. Beautiful sixty
three degrees in sunshine in Burbank, California. We sort of
ease into this awkward time between Christmas and New Year's
when people are working, they're not working, they're sort of working.
So the big news, of course, as you've been following,
is the death of President Carter. Jimmy Carter died at
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the age of one hundred, and it's fascinating to read
about the remarkable life he led. We're going to talk
about that in detail, but first I want to get
the latest on the plans for his funeral, on how
he's being remembered from Jannon Kingston, who's with ABC News,
a State Department correspondent.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Shannon, what do you have for us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Well, Jimmy Carter is not remembered as a great president
by historians, but he is remembered as a great former
president because part of that is he had four decades
basically after leaving the White House and use that time
to promote peace abroad, to resolve conflicts, and really champion
these kind of international global public health issues, bringing some
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of them to a close. So that's part of the
reason that we're seeing such an outpouring of support and
really admiration for the former president who left after being
defeated by Ronald Reagan handedly after only one term in office.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Right It's interesting because that was immediately what people went to.
It's not so much his presidency, which of course had
a lot of huge moments, the Energy crisis, the Camp
David Accords, but then his post presidency, as you mentioned,
spanned decades, and we don't really talk about other forms
in that context quite to that degree, do we.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
That's right, And part of the reason is, I mean,
if you look at Joe Biden right now, when he
leaves after one term in office, you know, it's I
don't think I'm I'm overstepping to say that. It's hard
to imagine that he'll have decades of time left and
energy to devote himself to these causes. So Carter had
years and years to really rehab his public image. And
it's something that what we've seen with older presidents. It's
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just not the same.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So what's the mood in you're in Washington? Now, what's
the mood there?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's right, Well, you kind of hit the nail on
the head when you said that. It's that kind of
awkward time at the end of the year where you're
not quite sure who's working. Everybody's kind of doing their
own thing. But definitely, plans have already turned to the
state funeral that's being planned, all of the pompet's circumstance
that goes into honoring a former president or any national
figure really of this merit. All those plans are underway,
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so you know, we're getting ready for that, and really,
I think it is a moment of celebrating this long
life and all these contributions, you know, more so than
just outpourings of sadness or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But we're working.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are working. That is true. Some people are still working,
but they're not all me and you.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Of course, yeah, because here in the studios like KFI,
I'm looking at CNN, I'm looking at Fox News, I'm
looking at MSNBC, and they all have, you know, full
coverage family and friends, remember Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter's legacy
funeral set for January ninth, and I mean, it's just
it's just.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
A remarkable outpouring of love for the man.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I mean, in contrast to say, the way people feel
about former President Trump and his reelection and President Biden,
even going back to Bush Clinton Obama, it's unusual to me,
at least to see just this universal love and support
for a former president.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right. And part of that, of course, Jimmy Carter was
on hospice for some time. He had great domestic contributions
seeking have to have for humanity. But it really is
hard to say, if you know, some of the controversies
get airbrushed after the fact because you know, so much
time has passed. Because there are definitely moments when Carter
royaled Democrats and Republicans. I mean, it's you don't have
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to go too far back. I think the Clinton administration
to think about when he was meeting with Fidel Castro,
and many people said that that was basically legitimizing Castro's
communist regime. Of course, someone who you know, did some
terrible things to the people of Cuba, not what widely
liked by Cubans of America, that's for sure. And you
know there are different times too when he would you know,
maybe some people say he'd cozy up too much to
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the Soviets. Looking back on it now, a lot of
people give him credit for setting the stage for the
end of the Cold War, But certainly while it was
all playing out, there was a lot more tension that
we're seeing now in hindsight.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So tell me what it's like covering the State Department
these days.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, this is another time of transition. I think I
was going to say the new year, out with the
old and with the new. We're all preparing for a
new administration to come in and wondering what it will
be like, because certainly there are going to be some constant,
some similarities. Of course, we're still dealing with conflicts in
the Middle East, China is still in the major challenge
the war in Ukraine. There's going to be a lot
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of new personnel because about half of State Department employees,
you know, especially the players at the top of the
pyramid are public appointees rather not career diplomats sore. Everybody's
expecting Senator Mark Rubio to be confirmed. Obviously has a
lot of friends in the Senate. I have a lot
of expertise, and it's pretty widely liked. But the question
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is is how all the dynamics, how every you know,
Coggin Washington is going to work together because we do
know from covering the Trump administration all of these decisions
really are going to be made at the top.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So were you there in the first Trump administration as well?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I was that we covered the White House and Capitol Hill.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So the different side of it from your perspective. I
know we're getting a little bit off President Carter, but
just interesting to talk to people who are actually there.
I mean, the biggest difference between covering the Trump administration
and the Biden ministrations have been what.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I think, it's going back to the first year of it.
I mean, it did feel that when Trump was in office,
you could have had this anything can happen. I would
just show up at the beginning of the day and say,
all right, let's see what's going to happen. Biden administration
was a lot more regimented, but I think they learned
pretty pretty soon that you can't just have good intentions
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right for order and you know, say, hey, we're going
to be the adults in the room. There's going to
be a curve balls that come your way. And as
soon as you know. I remember being in the White
House when the Afghanistan withdrawal was happening and seeing kind
of for the first time, you know, this kind of
feeling of panic, this feeling of you know, some staffers
being you know, feeling like they were over their heads
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because obviously this massive thing is happening. So you know, now,
as we go into the second Trump administration, I think
part of it is, you know, don't don't assume you
know what's going to happen, right because I think we
do have a very different incoming president. Even from where
Donald Trump was four years ago. The world has changed, obviously,
I think he's changed, his team has changed. So it's
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hard to say, if you know the past, is any
kind of instruction manual as now.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, I think the safest thing to say is be
prepared for for anything. Buckle your seat belt, get ready
for a ride, all those sort of cliches that apply
to President Trump, who seems a I guess you'd call
him unpredictable.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Right, that's right. But you know, part of when my job,
of course is to you know, try to call balls
and strikes and figure it out in the moment. We
don't always have, you know, the hindsight as the aspect
of Jimmy Carter will looks back on for sure, we're
in the moment here, but that chaos can work to
his advantage, especially on you know, matters of foreign policy,
because a lot of people, if they don't know what
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he's going to do, I think it really brings out
a lot of makes a lot of other world leaders
cautious in certain circumstances because they don't know, you know,
if he sets a thread, if he sets the red line,
they're pretty sure there's going to be consequences that they
cross it, you know, in a way that perhaps hasn't
been the case to another administration.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, Shannon Kingston, ABC News State Department correspondent, appreciate your time,
your insight. Don't make any long term plans for twenty
twenty five. Probably going to be on the road on
airplanes a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Probably Well let's write it out and we should talk
in a couple months and you know, figure out where
these public pieces are falling together.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Shannon, appreciate your time. Happy Newear to you and your family.
Shannon Kingston from ABC News. I'm Phil Schuman in for
John coblt with you from one to four today. We
have a lot more to discuss about President Carter, but
I've been online and looking up some interesting facts and
figures try to give you some insight into the man
that perhaps you haven't heard in the past twenty four
hours or so.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We're just getting warmed up here.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
We're going to talk Nathan Hawkman, which brings it more
to the local level of how the new year is
going to affect us here in southern California. There's an
update on the Menendez Brothers, one of our favorite stories.
Of course, we can't go through a session here on
KFI without talking about homelessness and what the national trends
mean for locally, which is the exact opposite of that.
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And then you have any favorite headlines from twenty twenty four?
What was your best story, the most significant story of
twenty twenty four in your mind? You remember, if you're
listening on the iHeartRadio app. We'd love you to click
on the microphone icon and you can record a comment,
and we'd like to play some of those some of
those on the air.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 4 (09:40):
As you know, we are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
I'm Phil Schuman from Fox eleven News, most recently in
for John co Belt today and tomorrow from one to four.
John gets a little well deserved time off during the holidays,
but I'm working and I'm happy to be here, and
I'm looking for some feedback from you on the.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
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Speaker 4 (10:01):
You have anything interesting planned for New Year's of course,
the big New Year's Eve celebration in New York City.
Times Square. Heard somebody talking on the radio this morning,
and I forget what I was listening to. They said
one billion people will be in Times Square for New
Year's Eve. I'm like, hm, I don't that maybe a
little crowded. Maybe they think what they meant to say
was that maybe a billion people around the world will
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be focused on Times Square in New York. Haven't heard
much about plans for Southern California's New Year's Eve. Usually
there's parties down in Grand Park in downtown LA.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'll look that up for you. We're going to talk
a lot about that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
As a matter of fact, this year, for the first
time in a long time, Fox eleven is going to
be carrying the Rose Parade on New Year's Morning with
Alex Michaelson and Christine Devine. Hal Eisner has a report
coming up on the Fox leven News today on the
economic impact of the Rose Bowl the Rose Parade. It's
an exciting time to be in southern California. You remember,
this is what the time of year when you know
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you're free. It's fourteen degrees in Franklin, New Hampshire, under
thirty feet of snow. And they look here at Southern California,
at the Rose Parade and at sunny and seventy degrees,
and everybody moves here. Then they realize that a house
that has one bedroom and half a bath cost two
million dollars and they can't afford to live here. And
all that goes along with the pros and cons of
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Southern California. I've been here since nineteen eighty three, and
I love it. But hey, it is a challenge to
get through the day. I mean, wake up this morning.
Listen to Gigi Grasse Yet from Fox eleven News LAPD
shoot and kill a naked homeless man who was firing
a gun at a motel on Ventura Boulevard in Woodland Hills.
(11:43):
Like great, Welcome to Southern California. You know what they
call this Monday. I mean it's just the crime is
just the I would say crime. See if you agree
with me. Obviously, crime and homelessness, the fear of crime
and the challenge of overcoming homelessness two of the biggest issues.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
We're going to get into that later on in this hour.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
But we were talking about former President Carter, President Trump,
President Biden. By the way, Trump is in mar A Lago,
big New Year's Eve festivities there. President Biden continues his
much deserved vacation in Saint Croix in the US Virgin Islands.
And do you remember Kamala Harris. She ran for president
(12:26):
a while ago. I mean talk about low profile since
the November election. I mean, I believe she's in Southern
California and her home in Brentwood. Over the holidays, there's
been some TFRs temporary flight restrictions that go along with
the vice president of the president. But talk about keeping
a low profile since the election. Wow, and one of
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the things that will a little bit more about President Carter.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Then we can we can move on.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But one of the things about that struck me as
an article that I read in the New York Times
about President or Jimmy Carter. Here's the headline, Jimmy Carter
was right about materialism, but alas wrong about us. So
when you look at leaders, you want them to inspire you, right,
whether it's the president, whether it's the governor, whether it's
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a mayor, whether it's a city council person, whether it's
a member of the Bard of Supervisors in Los Angeles
or Orange County, Riverside County, San Berdo County. Can you
name a leader that you feel is genuinely inspirational to
you in the mold of say a Kennedy or an MLK.
I mean, I have a hard time looking to someone
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and saying, wow, that person really inspires us. So President Carter,
when he was an office during the energy crisis way
back in the nineteen seventies seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I believe it was he gave a speech that was came.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
To be known the Malaise Speech because he was blaming
Americans for problems that they hadn't created, and that presidents
were supposed to.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Inflation the Iranian hostage crisis.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
So he called this speech the Crisis of Confidence, and
he challenged Americans to acknowledge personal failings. Could you imagine
President Trump doing that? I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So the quote.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Which struck me was too many of us now tend
to worship self indulgence and consumption. Too many of us
tend to worship self indulgence and consumption. Human identity is
no longer defined by what one does, but by what
one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming
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things does not satisfy our longing for meaning, which is
really something to think about in this holiday season as
we reflect on the year past and we look ahead
to the year that's coming up, and set goals and
make resolutions and try to plan to ways to make
our our lives better. Are we going to lose weight?
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Are we going to exercise? Are we going to give
more to charity? Are we going to spend more time volunteering.
Are we going to dedicate our lives to helping others
and making Southern California a better place to live in?
And how do we do that? And the course, Remember
we're talking about this in nineteen seventy eight. This is
before social media and largely before the Internet became popular,
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which to me serves to glorify consumption at the expense
of meaningful human interaction.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
The iPhone.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean, how many times have you gone, say, to
a restaurant, or gone to a public place or even
as I mentioned, I was at Sofi Stadium for the
Rams game, I was at the Intuit Dome for the
Clippers game, thanks largely to the generosity of friends and
everybody's staring at their iPhone. I'm like, dude, you're at
a basketball game. Pay attention. So I just think the
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President Carter, former President Carter, was so far ahead of
us in philosophizing about the meaning of life, and that
you mentioned some of the books he wrote values and
it's a message that I think still resonates so loudly today,
but one that not a lot of us seem like
they want to hear. I mean, even incoming President Trump
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is talking about making America great again, and it seems
like a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The subtext of that is.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Consumption, consumer goods, you know, buying things, building things, which
is not necessarily bad, but you know, at the expense
of what. So maybe during this time when he passed away,
and again we're at the end of the year, when
we're looking back and reflecting and looking ahead and sending goals,
maybe one goal could be to spend less time worrying
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about consumption and more time worry about giving back. And
believe me when I say that, I'm right at the
top of the list, because you know, I got my
new wireless headphone for the holidays, and clothes and you know,
bought things. But I also, you know, spend some time
volunteering and spend some time online making donations. So I
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think we have to find a balance, right and again,
as always interested in your thoughts, click on the microphone
icon on the iHeartRadio app and record your message and
we'll play them on the air when we come back.
I mentioned crime. Waking up this morning to the shocking news.
I guess I shouldn't say shocking, the sad news of
the LAPD shooting a gun wielding suspect.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Out in the valley.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
The numbers of murders is falling if you keep track
of these things. But the fear of crime, it's like
the fear persists regardless of what the statistics say.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Why is that and what we can do about it?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I'm Phil Schuman infant John cobelt will four o'clock today
here on KF I am six forty live everywhere on
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Speaker 5 (17:55):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AMS.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Music is so much fun.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
You ever spend time on YouTube just listening to vintage
acts and songs and performances from years gone by with
a good set of headphones. That's a great way. That's
a great way to spend a few hours. I was
gonna say waste some time, but it's really not a
waste of time. I love music and we were talking
earlier before we went on the air about jelly Roll.
(18:25):
You heard from one of the bumps come out of
the break right with New Republic jelly Roll. If you
listen to me here, I'm Phil Schuman in for John Colebert.
If you've listened to me here on KFI and the
opportunities I've had to just sit in as a host over.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
The past few months. You know that I'm a big
Jelly Roll fan.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
We saw him at Crypto dot com put on a
phenomenal show.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It's just his story.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We were talking the last break about political leaders and
the need for inspiration. Well you can get inspiration lots
of different ways, and Jelly Roll, who If you don't
know his backstory, it's worth looking up. And he's spent
you know, ten years in prison from a juvenile and
it was early twenties, drug sales, alcohol problems. I mean,
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he just a whole string of things that would normally,
you know, set you back and knock you down, and
he's overcome them all and he's triumphing triumphing is that
the right word, and becomes such a huge star in
the music industry.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But it's not just about his music.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
He just preaches this message of overcoming adversity and how
we've all had issues in our lives or we know
a family member or a friend who has, and how
the power of the therapeutic power of music. That's the
phrase that really stuck with me. All right, So enough
about me and Jelly Role I've never met the man.
I would love to. He seems like he's kind of
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everywhere these days. But he's an incredible songwriter, incredible performer,
and his personal story is really interesting. So we're going
to talk about crime because we just seems like we
have to do that here in southern California. Not that
I want to, you know, bring you down on this
beautiful December thirtieth day. But as I mentioned, I woke
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up this morning and turned on the news as I
normally do. I have the AMFM clock radio with the earpiece.
Do you remember the transistor radio type earpieces? Anybody nod
on their heads and no, like boy, that guy is
like old. So it's got KFI on it. And then
I flip on Fox eleven usually, So we wake up
this morning. There's a naked, crazed gunman firing shots at
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a motel and Ventura boulevarded Woodland Hills. The labd comes,
swat comes, They end up shooting and killing him. We
don't know the details of that yet, or who he was,
what kind of crimes he may or may not committed
before today, but it got me thinking about the headlines
again today. One of the headlines which is good news,
(20:58):
is that the number of murders keep falling. This year,
murders spike during the pandemic. They became a crime. Is
sort of a focus of President elect Donald J. Donald
Trump's campaign message. Polls show Americans, of course, see it
as a major problem. It's true everywhere, not just here
in southern California. So many high profile homicides. I mean,
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who wasn't horrified by that killing of the homeless woman
who was set on fire in the New York subway.
But the latest numbers, and they lagged behind, is that
in twenty twenty three, the numbers of murders fell at
the sharpest rate ever recorded.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
This is data that comes from the FBI.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
That's another thing that's frustrating for me as a reporter
a lot of times, and I've covered a lot of
crime and a lot of murders and a lot of
year end summaries from law enforcement is getting the accurate
statistics is often challenging, and you have to question, Okay,
where are these statistics coming from? And so these numbers
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are from what the FBI calls a uniform crime report,
so local jurisdictions, the LAPD, the Sheriff's Department, Burbank PD,
pick your law enforcement agency. They report these things to
the FBI, and the FBI compiles them and they have
what's called the real time Crime Index, which is, you know,
getting a little bit far into the weeds. But the
(22:19):
point is these are considered reliable stats, and these are
the ones that people go by. Is that the number
of murders fell at the steepest rate ever, so some
numbers I don't have, LA's right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I've been trying to find that. It's a little bit tricky.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But Detroit last year recorded the lowest number of homicides
in fifty seven years. It's on track to see even
fewer in twenty twenty four. Again, these are numbers for
twenty twenty three. Same thing in San Francisco, same thing
in Chicago. Other crime categories that have had declines car
theft falling about twenty percent nationwide, including some sharp.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Decreases in cities like New York City and DC.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Of all things, they mentioned Long Beach, California seeing an
increase an increase in violent crime. So the point is
you can argue about statistics all you want, and certainly
good news we want to see the numbers going down
rather than up. But it's the fear of crime that
is the issue for me and so many others, because again,
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when you wake up and you hear the news this
morning about the shooting out in Woodland Hills, or whether
it's break ins in Encino or in West la which
would traditionally considered and I say quote unquote air quotes
around safer neighborhoods, or whether it's a stabbing on the Metro.
It's just it's this fear, the unpredictability, the concern that
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the homeless person who in years past you would sort
of walk by and avoid on the sidewalk, is gonna
pull out a knife and stab you. I mean that
led to directly the fear of crime, directly to the
election of Nathan Hofkman, the new Los Angeles County District Attorney.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
You remember George Gascon rightly.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Or wrongly, I would argue maybe wrongly again, according to statistics,
was perceived as soft on crime. He survived to recall attempts,
but certainly didn't survive the election in November. We're going
to talk a little bit about how his plans are
to implement his sort of tougher on crime agenda. If
(24:26):
you will, We're going to talk about that when we
come back after the top.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Of the hour.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But it's do you feel that way? I mean again,
drop me a message on the iHeartRadio app. I mean,
do you feel safe? Do you feel afraid? Does it
depend on where you live? Does it depend on whether
it's daytime or nighttime? Having a lot of arguments in
my family about taking the Metro. My son was really
critical of me for taking my wife on the Metro
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in a recent trip downtown, not so much the trip there,
but the trip coming home.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's like, promise me you'll ever do that again, which
is sad to say.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
And I feel like I'm not giving into the praised
homeless who make you feel afraid on the Metro. If
I want to take the Metro from downtown LA to
Studio City or to the North Hollywood Universal City station,
who are they.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
To intimidate me into not doing that?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
And then it's like, well, that sounds great, but you
also have to have to live in the real world, right,
which I get.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's just it's it's sad to see.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
I mean, I was driving to so far, as I
mentioned on Saturday, getting off the four or five three
you at Manchester and just this crazed homeless individuals wandering
around the off ramps with just piles of trash in
this encampment. And again we've made significant strides into cleaning
that up, but we have so much more work to do.
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So it's just, you know, the challenges of living here
in southern California. Yes, it's great most of the time,
weather is beautiful. You know, there's so much to do here,
whether it's the beach, the mountains, this opportunity for everybody,
but it comes at a huge cost, whether it's our
peace of mind, whether it's it's the ability just to
afford to live here, whether it's the fear of wildfires.
(26:05):
If you're fortunate enough to be in Malibu or not.
You know, it comes at a cost. I mean, some
people are packing up and heading out. But again that's
a narrative that is also contrasted by the fact that
more people move in than move out. In your achieve
you're pursuing your dreams here in Southern California, right, at
least that's the theory for most of us, at least
(26:27):
I came here for that. What about you drop me
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the year, there is never a shortage of news and
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