June 17, 2025 • 35 mins
The John Koblyt Show Hour 1 (06/17) - Royal Oakes comes on the show to talk about the continuing legal battle between Pres. Trump & Gov. Newsom. There is a poll out on what the public thinks of Pres. Trump sending in the National Guard last week. Senator Alex Padilla made a speech on the Senate floor about being handcuffed by federal agents after storming DHS Sec. Kristi Noem's press conference last week.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Cobelt Show on demand the podcast. There is a federal
appeals court hearing that began at noon in San Francisco.
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This is the Trump administration appeal of that Federal District
Court judge's decision to give the National Guard to Gavin
Newsom and said Trump had no right to send the
National Guard into Los Angeles. That's under the control of
the governor. The appeals court put a stay on that
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and is three judge panel is hearing. The case started
at noon. I don't know if it's still going on,
but we have Royal Oaks coming on from ABC News
legal analysts. They're royal what's happening?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, John, what's happening is very good news for Donald Trump.
The hearing did start pretty promptly at noon. The justices
announced it would run for about an hour, and it's running.
It's almost over now. It's running a little over time.
It's kind of a shocker, John, because I talked to you,
I think the other day about the fact that two
of the three judges picked totally random among the twenty
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nine nine circuit judges were Trump appointees who came out
of the Federal Society, which is, you know, the theater
group that provides the conservative judges to Republican presidents. And
then one of the judges was a total enemy of Kavanaugh,
saying if you nominate Cavin, I'm put him on the court.
People are going to die. She's a service employees union organizer.
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All three of them seem like they're going to go
for Trump here. Absolutely, I'm predicting the two Trump appointees,
and the key is that they all seem to be
in agreement the judges that you don't second guess the
president's discretion, judgment, an opinion when it comes to public
safety stuff. The newsom position is, well, now, wait a minute,
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you know, it really wasn't that bad. These weren't really riots.
They were just protests and they got a little out
of hand. But Dougthy, the president didn't look into whether
the local cops or the federal cops of the Marines
could do it. He shouldn't have federalized the National Guard.
That was the essence of Newsom's position, and the two
Republican appointees, these federalist society guys, absolutely weren't buying it.
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And even the liberal judge, he's only asked so far
like three questions, and the first two absolutely seemed to
support Trump's position, and the third one was sort of
a mixed bag. So I think the bottom line is
they're also John not worried about this businesses or you
didn't ask the governor, you needed the governor's help. There's
this weird vague clause in the statute that says the
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president may take over the National Guard if he goes
through the governor. What does that mean? Does that mean
that governor has vito power you just have to send
him a telegram at Candy Graham. It's not clear. And
the judge made it even worse. The trial judge, who
was Charles Bryer Clinton a point to you who slammed
Trump last Thursday. He made it worse, but by giving
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some vague comments about you know what this through language means.
So that's just a long winded way of saying that
it looks very much like Donald Trump's going to have
a victory. He may not hear about it today. It'll
probably take a day or two for them to kick
a written order out the door. But I think he's
going to win.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And we've talked about this a few times over the
course of riot week, and I wonder how much seeing
the riots last, you know, at least through Saturday, right,
and there was even some activity Sunday, but Saturday got
crazy for a while, and curfew they were forcing hundreds
thousands of people off the streets. It just seeing it
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every day for seven days, the judges realized, like, man,
this this kind of situation could go very bad, very quickly,
and it's a good idea to have the National Guard
as a backup there just in case. I have to
think that without seeing that for seven nights would have
an effect on a reasonable judge.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, You're you're raising a really good, real world point
that in a way is surprising him, because you know, judges,
theoretically you're supposed to kind of have blinders on it
and not be you know, reading the newspapers or listen
to talk radio. They're supposed to listen to the facts
and look at the law. The giant stack of law
books and apply the facts to the law and come
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up with a decision. Then if it's unpopular, too bad.
But you know you're not supposed to be, you know,
having one eye of public opinion. But I think in
this case, how can you not because you know, judges
don't want to be responsible for being people dying in
the streets because you know that they stop the president
from sending in the National Guard at the end of
the day. I mean, if there was absolutely no legal
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basis for Trump doing something, I think they would slam him.
But here, you know, as I said, even the liberal
judge on the nine Circuit courd of Appeal seems to
agree with the two conservatives that you don't really second
get the president. The law gives the president, if not unlimited,
really broad discretion to make public safety decisions. And couple
it with your point, there's rocks and bottles and fires,
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and you know, the ice agents or you know, I
haven't broke bones broken when they're trying to go out
and do their job, So you need the federal troops
to protect them. It's looking like an easy call. Now
I'm not saying this is the end of the deal. Because,
as we've discussed, once the three judge panel rules, let's
say they rule tomorrow, Newsom has the right to say, hey,
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I want the entire Ninth Circuit to weigh in on this,
and if a majority of the twenty nine Ninth Circuit
judges go along with that, then eleven will be selected
at random, one including the chief judge, not at random,
and that panel may then overrule this three judge panel.
And that panel of eleven is probably going to be
mostly Democrat president appointees. But if there are anything like
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the one Democrat appointee today, they're going to be on
Trump's side.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So if she votes a side with Trump, that could
have a big effect on the rest of the panel.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Absolutely, because I have to feel that, you know,
judges talk about these cases. There's doesn't wrong with them,
you know, kibetzing, you know, in the court room, in
the courthouse. I have a feeling that her skepticism about
Newsom's position is probably a reflection of her informal consultations
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with her fellow judges on the Ninth Circuit. And you know,
she's probably friendly with a bunch of the Republican appointees
as well as the Democrats. But you know, to the extent,
there's always a political component, and statistically a lot of
studies have shown that in high profile cases, politically motivated cases,
you can pretty much predict how people are going to
vote based on whether a Democrat or Republican president appointed them.
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This is kind of one of the exceptions. I think, yeah,
this may signal if she goes along with the two Conservatives,
this may signal that it would be feudle for Newsom
to keep going. It's not that hard to keep going.
You file a piece of paper, and you know, you see,
if you get a hearing and Throwhill Mary pass. Then ultimately,
let's say the Ninth Circuit does revert to form and
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rules against Trump. In spite of all this stuff, Trump's
free to go to the US Supreme Court, and based
on the strong arguments expressed by the judges and the
hearing today, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if the
US Supreme Court, even though they don't want to look
like Donald Trump's handmaid, and wouldn't be surprised if they
might step in and get involved and say, yeah, we're
re asserting the principle that the president is super broad
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discretion when it comes to protecting public health and safety.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I wonder if the Trump team made a better case
this time around, because I remember you saying that they
were late with some of the paperwork with some of
their ammunition. They didn't file it in time. And I
wonder if they got their act together a little better today.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
They absolutely did, and and you know, the papers being
a little bit late, you know, stuff happens. Listening to
the lawyer for Trump today, he was very sharp, and
of course he was reflecting the arguments that he's made
and all sorts of extensive briefs. The lawyer for Newsom
wasn't bad, but it was like he was given a
bad hand of cards and you can only make so
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much of it. Is just not going to win the
pok or hand, no matter how BLib you are. So yeah,
I think at the end of the day, it was
sort of a doomed mission in retrospect that Newsom was
trying to second guess and say, oh, you know, you
didn't consult me, didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just always thought, this is just layman thinking right
that the National Guard was part of the federal government.
It was, you know, a little branch of the military right,
and that the states had control of it to deal
very quickly with crazy situations. But the idea that a president,
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not just Trump, but any president wouldn't have some say
if necessary, it just never occurred to me. I thought,
ultimately it would all go back to the president, and
they're like blowing out to the States, you know, to
do whatever you have to do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, well, I mean the National Guard. It's not like,
you know, the exact responsibility and source is something that
everybody gets taught in the civics in high school or college.
So it's it's sort of inside baseball, but you know,
it's funny. Newsom's argument kind of boils down to the
idea that, well, Trump, he went to deaf Con one
too fast. I always thought deaf Con five was bad,
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but I'm told now deaf Con one is the worst.
And he said, you should have tried other means. You know,
you can have a few marines, but the local cops
are pretty good. The idea of trying to second guess
and getting a federal court to say, oh no, mister President,
you have no right to to federalize and take control
of the National Guard, even though you know rocks and
bottles are flying, people are getting injured and so on.
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It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I was just going to say, it's new some wanting
to be president and he loves the fact that he's
seen as the warrior over the last week or so.
So it's great for Newsom for his base to you know,
beat Gretchen Whitmer or Kamala Harris. But it wasn't very
good legally.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I just I just don't understand waiting till a
riot has gone on for three days or five days,
then you send in the National Guard. We know, we
through seen in LA a number of times. It's like, yes,
send the National Guard in early. So the writers know
what they're potentially up against. That has to have some
kind of effect on the crazy people knowing that they,
you know, the real soldiers are around the corner.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah. Psychologically, you know, when you get a new sheriff
in town like Da Nathan Hockman, like President Trump, I
think they're going to do great pains to get the
message across that. You probably saw one of the Nathan
Hackman press conferences a few weeks ago. You know, don't
don't be confused, folks, if you break the law, you know,
if you steal, if you shoplift, we are going to
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prosecute you. You're going to go to prison. And that's
so different from the message the politicians, you know, the
George Kascons and others have given the same. With Trump,
you know, he's send this message, you know, he goes
overboard and he says, you know, you know, you show
up at a riot, we'll shoot you. But he's sending
a message that this is a different administration, a different approach.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
All right, very good, Royal Oaks, and we'll await the decision.
Thank you, all right from ABC News Legal analyst, Royal Oaks.
And we'll see if the decision comes this afternoon. But
Royal thought that at least two of the three and
maybe all three judges on the appeals court panel seemed
to be on Trump's side of the legal argument when
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it came to Trump controlling the National Guard for the
LA riots.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When we come.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Back, there's a pull out on what the public thinks
on Trump sending the National Guard to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
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Speaker 2 (11:52):
We've got the Moistline for Friday eight seven seven Moist
eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually
talkback feature on the ie Heart radio app. And if
the three judge panel Court of Appeals is going to
issue a ruling today on whether Trump or Newsom can
have control of the National Guard right now in the
face of the la riots, we will. We will give
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you that news immediately, Deborah feel free burst in no
matter what's going on here, I will. Because they just
had the hearing as of a few minutes ago, it
was nearing its final stage. Royal Oaks, the ABCS need
ABC News legal analyst. He watched the whole hearing. It
was it was online. I wasn't able to see it.
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But in his opinion, the two Trump appointed judges on
the three judge panel seemed in their comments and questions
to be definitely on the Trump side, and he thought
even the Democratic appointed judge was quite sympathetic to the
Trumps sides argument. So we'll find out for sure, well
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hopefully today at the moment, Trump still has control of
the National Guard, and what he says goes now. Harvard
Harris has a poll out and it looks like majority
support for Trump sending in the National Guard into Los
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Angeles by a fifty six to forty four margin. Fifty
six forty four. This is a national poll, and it
seems that in general, the big majority of the public
likes what Trump is doing regarding immigration. Here's a straight
ahead question, do you support or oppose the administration's actions
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to close the southern border? Sixty three percent of the
country says yes, we support him closing the border, and
fifty fifty six percent support the National Guard coming in. So,
despite what you see on television, because of all the
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progressive reporters and news directors, producers, editors that spin just
about everything against Trump, I mean, Connoy and I were
talking about this the other day off the air. You
watch the news, local news here, got these local news stations.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Some of them are just abominable.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's just one tier jerker report after another after another
after another, totally one sided, totally biased, totally slanted, all
emotional manipulation about feeling sorry for people who are getting
deported or people whose family members got deported.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I mean it was just incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
These people never covered very much when illegal aliens committed
violent crimes, and we had victims of violent crimes. But
what gets the full skin that La times is like
this too. I mean, I don't know, are people really
saw incoherently after hearing and reading all these sob stories,
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most of the public says, yeah, this is what should
be going on, that's the law. Nearly I mean, most
of the support comes from well, I mean only even
forty percent of Democrats, even forty percent of Democrats support
what Trump is doing at the border. Eighty seven percent
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of the Republicans, sixty two percent of Independence. So you're
you're talking about a group of people who so progressive
they've lost their minds and they don't care if criminal
aliens are coming over the border.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Or you've got.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
People who oppose something just because Trump supports It's there's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Of that these days.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I would say it's probably less than ten percent of
the country wants illegal alien criminals coming over the border.
Is it even five percent? The rest of it is
because I'd like to I'd like to talk to these
people and say, well, why is it good to have
wide open borders with criminals running amok? Are you really
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supporting that? Are you really in favor of that? Or
it's just your your limited brain power, your your brain
reflects that if if if Trump suggests it, then you're
against it. Uh, I mean it's I don't understand the thinking.
And nobody ever write everybody writes about how Trump is
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is a king, is a dictator? Is this is that
nobody makes the case for a wide open border with
criminal aliens coming across. I've never seen anybody put that
into words in a coherent argument. You look at the
policies they support, but the policies are always about criticizing Trump,
the policies that the writing is not about supporting.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The progressive's policies here, because how would you write that,
How would you write that column?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How would you write that story to let in gang
members from MS thirteen or trendy Iagua to rape and
kill young girls. What I hear is is like, well,
it's not that many. That's Terry picking stories. It's like no, no, no,
don't change the subject. Don't tell me not that many.
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Let's talk about the actual actions. If you could do
something to stop even one young girl from getting raped
and murdered by an illegal alien criminal, would you do it?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Who's going to say no?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And the best way to limit that kind of carnage
is to shut the border down entirely. Right, Is there
a better way than that? No, not that I'm aware of,
But if you have one, please tell us. And that's
where you know. It's just the reflex Trump suggests it.
Therefore I'm against it, no matter how rational that is.
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And you just give the polster your silly answer and
you don't suffer any any penalty for that. Eighty eighty
percent of the public support a plan to deport illegal
aliens who have committed crimes. Eighty percent. Now, who's the
twenty percent against it? The families, the relatives of the criminals.
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There's a lot of there's a lot of polling that
Harvard Harris did. We're going to talk at two o'clock
with the guy who actually he wrote that. He wrote
the story for Center, the Center for Immigration Studies on
the poll and he also had a separate story that
got published yesterday about the seven hundred and fifty thousand
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to one million illegal immigrants who have self deported under Trump.
And his name is Art Arthur, Center for Immigration Studies,
and he's going to come on with us at two
o'clock when we come back that dopey clown, the sitting
Senator of California, although he was laying face down after
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Christy Noolman's security got through with him, Alex Padea, he
went on the floor of the Senate. Usually, when you
do an embarrassing flop like Padilla did, you pretend it
never happened and you never raised the issue again. Instead,
he went to the Senate floor and gave a long
emotional speech about how he suffered.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
This is all he's ever gonna be known for.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
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Speaker 1 (19:48):
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Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's when you listen to what you miss.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We're gonna play you some clips of Alex Padilla, the
buffoon who got thrown to the ground by Christy noms
security after he barged in on Nomes' press conference question
and answer and started shouting. Didn't identify himself, wasn't even
dressed properly. You know, if you're sitting, if you're a
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sitting senator, you at least ought to have a jacket
and tie on. But before I get there, I had
mentioned at the end of the last segment that there's
a new poll out by Harvard Harris which had support
for Trump closing the border sixty three percent and also
supported Trump sending the National Guard to LA fifty six
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to forty four.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And then I noticed that they.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Did a national poll of favorability for various big names,
and they put Gavin Newsoman in the poll. Do you
know what his national favorability rating is twenty nine percent.
That's higher than I thought. His unfavorable rating is thirty
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six and thirty five percent of the public either has
no opinion or never heard of them. Yeah, there's a
lot of fascinating stuff here. Karen Bass's national approval rating
is seventeen percent. So the rest of the country looks
at these two as being failures idiots. They also had
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a pull. And then this is why I always got
to stress this. When you see protesters, they represent a
tiny slice of the public. The public is not rebelling.
The public is sitting home largely. They're eating and drinking
with their families on a Sunday. They're watching sports on television.
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They are not standing in the heat for eight hours
chanting stupid rhymes. That is not the public. Harvard Harris
did a favorability rating. You know what number one is
in this country? The military seventy six percent, police sixty
four percent. So who do you think the public can
aside with when there's a riot in Los Angeles? It's
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going to be the police and the National Guard. That's
who they're going to side with. So military seventy six,
police sixty four. Gavin Newsom twenty nine, Karen Bass seventeen.
That is not a launching pad to run for national office,
to come out against the police and the National Guard.
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Now what protest movement? The first you know, for the
last year and a half has overwhelmed most other protest movements.
It's been the Palestinians right supporting Hamas. Do you know
what the favorability rating for Hamas is in this country?
Nine percent. That's what's showing up in the streets. That's
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what's showing up at the universe of these It's not
normal people, it's this crazy progressive fringe nine percent. You know,
Bass only has six more points approval rating than Vladimir Putin.
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Let me get to Padilla here, Alex Padilla if you
haven't heard, he's the idiot who stormed the Homeland Security
Secretary's press conference, Christy Noome here in Los Angeles. He
storms in while she's speaking doing a question and answer
with reporters, and he starts shouting and he was grabbed.
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He pushed back, then he got dragged out and thrown
to the ground and handcuffed. Didn't identify himself until after
he was shouting, and then he was not wearing his
Senate pin or any other id He wasn't dressed like
a senator. He looked like a guy who jumped off
the ups truck and maybe he was gonna blow.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The room up.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's the way he was acting, and that's how he
was treated. So he goes on the Senate floor and
instead of pretending this never happened or apologizing, we're gonna
play you. Let's start with cut three, because he gets
really emotional about his experience getting taken down by the
federal agents.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You've seen the video.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I was pushed and pulled, struggled to.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Maintain my balance.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I was forced to the ground, first on my knees.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And then flat on my chest. This is good and
it's I was handcuffed.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And marched down a hallway, repeatedly asking why am I
being detained? Not once did they tell me why?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You didn't know? I pray you never have a moment likeness.
That's right, he had said he wasn't. But I will
tell you.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
In that moment, a lot of questions came to my mind.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
First of all, where are they taking me? Because I
don't know. I'm not just being escorted out of the building. Well,
he's like, DON'TO isn't he? Am I being arrested?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Here?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And what will a city already on edge from being
militarized think when they see their United States senator being
handcuffed just for trying to ask a question?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What did he go bag? Their senator? I don't know
what will our boys think? Wait, way, back that up?
Back that up? They And what will my wife think?
I know what will our boys think? I know that too.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And I also remember asking myself, if this aggressive escalation
is the result of someone speaking up against the abuses
and overreach of the Trump administration, was it really worth it?
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The colleagues, how many Americans in our nation's history have marched,
how protested, oh have shed blood? Even lost their lives
to protect our rights. How many Americans have served in
wars overseas to protect our freedoms?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Here, that's you shedding blood and fighting.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And how many Americans in the year twenty twenty five
see a vindictive president on a tour of retribution, unrestrained
by the majority of this separate and coequal branch of government,
and wonder if it's worth it to stand up or
to speak out A the United States Center becomes too
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afraid to speak up, how can we expect any other
American to do the same, Colleagues, you know me. I
can't think of a person who would describe.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Me as a flamethrower.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I try to be considerate to every member of this body,
regardless of our political differences.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
My God, what a drama.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Queen, good lord, twenty minutes of that, twenty minutes of that,
you listen to that whole thing?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I did? Oh, bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well you picked the three good minutes there we got,
we got some more stuff. What was he like auditioning
for an opera or something? I mean, what, God?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And he has no idea why it happened? Really, he
has no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I ask you imagine that you go over to an
FBI building and the director of Homeland Security, a woman
is inside the building. There's riding that's been going on
for days in LA. She's talking to the press. You
go in there and start shouting, and then you start
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pushing and shoving with security. What do you think is
going to happen to you? What should happen to you?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
John, I'm telling you so many people, so many people
thought that what did that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
He's a hero now?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
And people thought that secret service that they were out
of control. And there are so many people that so
many people in Los Angeles Y support Padilla?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So they don't see he's a clown. No, because he was,
Because he was he defies Trump. Therefore he's a hero.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That he spoke out, he spoke out. What was his question?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
By the way, we never got to the to the
big question that was worth being dragged out into the
hallway over.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
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Almost a million illegal aliens have self deported since Trump
took over.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
A little reported.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Major achievement is a lot of people packing up and
leaving on their own. And we're going to talk with
Art Arthur from the Center Firm Immigration Studies about how
even how do you even figure that out? How do
you figure out that a million people? I mean it's
an estimate, but how do you even know that you're
near an accurate number?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That app that CBP APP Well, that would be a
good start.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, if people are doing it formally, well, yeah, because
they get the thousand dollars for Yeah, So we'll talk
to Art Arthur and we'll talk to him about that.
That poll, and you haven't heard Gavin Newsom has a
twenty nine percent national approval rating. Twenty nine percent. That
is a launching pad for the US presidency if Ivor
(30:50):
saw one. All right, Well, continue now with Alex Padia.
In the last segment, we played Padilla crying. He actually
went on the Senate for Floord started crying, recounting how
he got thrown the floor by Christy Noms security agents.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
He was that kid, right.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He had he never gotten beaten up on the playground. Well,
by the way, has he been in the military. I
don't know his background at all. He is such an
anonymous figure as I don't think the soldiers are coming
back from more going. Oh, they shout at be you're
the one who busted in. Yeah, they threw it to
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the floor. What a baby, What an embarrassment. That's your judgment.
H in California. Huh, he's the senator gets roughed up
a little after he burst in on Christy Nome and
now he's sobbing.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Good lord.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Here's another cut of his speech about Trump testing his power.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Touch six.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Donald Trump is continuing to test the boundaries of his power,
and he's surrounded himself with yes men and underqualified attack dogs,
from the DHS secretary to the FBI director to the
Secretary of Defense, who will rubber staff every anti democratic
step he takes. This administration's officials is what and maybe
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not all, but many Republicans in Congress may choose not
to do their job, but they cannot stop me from
doing mine.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I refuse to let.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Immigrants be political poems. On his path towards fascism, fatchism,
enforcing a democratic law.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
This is fascinating. Padia is clearly insane. He knows a
kind of weak sounding Uh. If you have a law
passed by the majority of the Senate and the House,
and you have a majority elect a specific president, and
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that says the president has complete authority over who gets deported.
So it was a democratically decided issue. We selected the
House members, we selected the Senate members, we selected the president.
And this goes back many decades. We've had these laws,
and I believe in the Constitution it gives Trump this authority.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Biden had the authority too, so did Obama.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Obama used his authority to deport millions of illegal immigrants.
Biden used his authority to let in millions of illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Trump is more aligned with Obama.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
In fact, Trump has a long way to go to
reach Obama's numbers. So I don't see how any of
this is fascism. We've had several I mean, Bush was
a disaster on immigration. He's the one who started his
latest way with his amnesty idea, going back to I
think two thousand and four, he was offering amnesty to
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all the illegal aliens and that led to a huge surge.
We played you clips of Bill Clinton, who was strongly
against illegal immigration, strongly for deportation, Hillary Clinton when she
ran as far back as two thousand and eight, and
then Obama, they were very definitive. So Trump actually follows
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through on what Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Obama talked about,
and Trump's a fascist over it. He actually does something
similar to what Obama did in terms of deportation numbers.
Padilla is a stooge. It just is a stooge. There's
nothing you can do. Tell me, do you think that's
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even ninety IQ points inside that head? Be honest, you
think that even hits ninety IQ points? When we come
back Art Arthur from the Center for Immigration Studies, he
had a story that was in the New York Post.
Estimate is close to a million people may have already
self deported. Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four
(35:15):
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Cobelt Show on demand the podcast. There is a federal
appeals court hearing that began at noon in San Francisco.
(00:26):
This is the Trump administration appeal of that Federal District
Court judge's decision to give the National Guard to Gavin
Newsom and said Trump had no right to send the
National Guard into Los Angeles. That's under the control of
the governor. The appeals court put a stay on that
(00:51):
and is three judge panel is hearing. The case started
at noon. I don't know if it's still going on,
but we have Royal Oaks coming on from ABC News
legal analysts. They're royal what's happening?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Hey, John, what's happening is very good news for Donald Trump.
The hearing did start pretty promptly at noon. The justices
announced it would run for about an hour, and it's running.
It's almost over now. It's running a little over time.
It's kind of a shocker, John, because I talked to you,
I think the other day about the fact that two
of the three judges picked totally random among the twenty
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nine nine circuit judges were Trump appointees who came out
of the Federal Society, which is, you know, the theater
group that provides the conservative judges to Republican presidents. And
then one of the judges was a total enemy of Kavanaugh,
saying if you nominate Cavin, I'm put him on the court.
People are going to die. She's a service employees union organizer.
(01:45):
All three of them seem like they're going to go
for Trump here. Absolutely, I'm predicting the two Trump appointees,
and the key is that they all seem to be
in agreement the judges that you don't second guess the
president's discretion, judgment, an opinion when it comes to public
safety stuff. The newsom position is, well, now, wait a minute,
(02:05):
you know, it really wasn't that bad. These weren't really riots.
They were just protests and they got a little out
of hand. But Dougthy, the president didn't look into whether
the local cops or the federal cops of the Marines
could do it. He shouldn't have federalized the National Guard.
That was the essence of Newsom's position, and the two
Republican appointees, these federalist society guys, absolutely weren't buying it.
(02:28):
And even the liberal judge, he's only asked so far
like three questions, and the first two absolutely seemed to
support Trump's position, and the third one was sort of
a mixed bag. So I think the bottom line is
they're also John not worried about this businesses or you
didn't ask the governor, you needed the governor's help. There's
this weird vague clause in the statute that says the
(02:50):
president may take over the National Guard if he goes
through the governor. What does that mean? Does that mean
that governor has vito power you just have to send
him a telegram at Candy Graham. It's not clear. And
the judge made it even worse. The trial judge, who
was Charles Bryer Clinton a point to you who slammed
Trump last Thursday. He made it worse, but by giving
(03:13):
some vague comments about you know what this through language means.
So that's just a long winded way of saying that
it looks very much like Donald Trump's going to have
a victory. He may not hear about it today. It'll
probably take a day or two for them to kick
a written order out the door. But I think he's
going to win.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And we've talked about this a few times over the
course of riot week, and I wonder how much seeing
the riots last, you know, at least through Saturday, right,
and there was even some activity Sunday, but Saturday got
crazy for a while, and curfew they were forcing hundreds
thousands of people off the streets. It just seeing it
(03:49):
every day for seven days, the judges realized, like, man,
this this kind of situation could go very bad, very quickly,
and it's a good idea to have the National Guard
as a backup there just in case. I have to
think that without seeing that for seven nights would have
an effect on a reasonable judge.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, You're you're raising a really good, real world point
that in a way is surprising him, because you know, judges,
theoretically you're supposed to kind of have blinders on it
and not be you know, reading the newspapers or listen
to talk radio. They're supposed to listen to the facts
and look at the law. The giant stack of law
books and apply the facts to the law and come
(04:28):
up with a decision. Then if it's unpopular, too bad.
But you know you're not supposed to be, you know,
having one eye of public opinion. But I think in
this case, how can you not because you know, judges
don't want to be responsible for being people dying in
the streets because you know that they stop the president
from sending in the National Guard at the end of
the day. I mean, if there was absolutely no legal
(04:49):
basis for Trump doing something, I think they would slam him.
But here, you know, as I said, even the liberal
judge on the nine Circuit courd of Appeal seems to
agree with the two conservatives that you don't really second
get the president. The law gives the president, if not unlimited,
really broad discretion to make public safety decisions. And couple
it with your point, there's rocks and bottles and fires,
(05:11):
and you know, the ice agents or you know, I
haven't broke bones broken when they're trying to go out
and do their job, So you need the federal troops
to protect them. It's looking like an easy call. Now
I'm not saying this is the end of the deal. Because,
as we've discussed, once the three judge panel rules, let's
say they rule tomorrow, Newsom has the right to say, hey,
(05:31):
I want the entire Ninth Circuit to weigh in on this,
and if a majority of the twenty nine Ninth Circuit
judges go along with that, then eleven will be selected
at random, one including the chief judge, not at random,
and that panel may then overrule this three judge panel.
And that panel of eleven is probably going to be
mostly Democrat president appointees. But if there are anything like
(05:54):
the one Democrat appointee today, they're going to be on
Trump's side.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So if she votes a side with Trump, that could
have a big effect on the rest of the panel.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Absolutely, because I have to feel that, you know,
judges talk about these cases. There's doesn't wrong with them,
you know, kibetzing, you know, in the court room, in
the courthouse. I have a feeling that her skepticism about
Newsom's position is probably a reflection of her informal consultations
(06:26):
with her fellow judges on the Ninth Circuit. And you know,
she's probably friendly with a bunch of the Republican appointees
as well as the Democrats. But you know, to the extent,
there's always a political component, and statistically a lot of
studies have shown that in high profile cases, politically motivated cases,
you can pretty much predict how people are going to
vote based on whether a Democrat or Republican president appointed them.
(06:49):
This is kind of one of the exceptions. I think, yeah,
this may signal if she goes along with the two Conservatives,
this may signal that it would be feudle for Newsom
to keep going. It's not that hard to keep going.
You file a piece of paper, and you know, you see,
if you get a hearing and Throwhill Mary pass. Then ultimately,
let's say the Ninth Circuit does revert to form and
(07:10):
rules against Trump. In spite of all this stuff, Trump's
free to go to the US Supreme Court, and based
on the strong arguments expressed by the judges and the
hearing today, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if the
US Supreme Court, even though they don't want to look
like Donald Trump's handmaid, and wouldn't be surprised if they
might step in and get involved and say, yeah, we're
re asserting the principle that the president is super broad
(07:33):
discretion when it comes to protecting public health and safety.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I wonder if the Trump team made a better case
this time around, because I remember you saying that they
were late with some of the paperwork with some of
their ammunition. They didn't file it in time. And I
wonder if they got their act together a little better today.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
They absolutely did, and and you know, the papers being
a little bit late, you know, stuff happens. Listening to
the lawyer for Trump today, he was very sharp, and
of course he was reflecting the arguments that he's made
and all sorts of extensive briefs. The lawyer for Newsom
wasn't bad, but it was like he was given a
bad hand of cards and you can only make so
(08:14):
much of it. Is just not going to win the
pok or hand, no matter how BLib you are. So yeah,
I think at the end of the day, it was
sort of a doomed mission in retrospect that Newsom was
trying to second guess and say, oh, you know, you
didn't consult me, didn't have to.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just always thought, this is just layman thinking right
that the National Guard was part of the federal government.
It was, you know, a little branch of the military right,
and that the states had control of it to deal
very quickly with crazy situations. But the idea that a president,
(08:50):
not just Trump, but any president wouldn't have some say
if necessary, it just never occurred to me. I thought,
ultimately it would all go back to the president, and
they're like blowing out to the States, you know, to
do whatever you have to do.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, well, I mean the National Guard. It's not like,
you know, the exact responsibility and source is something that
everybody gets taught in the civics in high school or college.
So it's it's sort of inside baseball, but you know,
it's funny. Newsom's argument kind of boils down to the
idea that, well, Trump, he went to deaf Con one
too fast. I always thought deaf Con five was bad,
(09:26):
but I'm told now deaf Con one is the worst.
And he said, you should have tried other means. You know,
you can have a few marines, but the local cops
are pretty good. The idea of trying to second guess
and getting a federal court to say, oh no, mister President,
you have no right to to federalize and take control
of the National Guard, even though you know rocks and
bottles are flying, people are getting injured and so on.
(09:48):
It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I was just going to say, it's new some wanting
to be president and he loves the fact that he's
seen as the warrior over the last week or so.
So it's great for Newsom for his base to you know,
beat Gretchen Whitmer or Kamala Harris. But it wasn't very
good legally.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I just I just don't understand waiting till a
riot has gone on for three days or five days,
then you send in the National Guard. We know, we
through seen in LA a number of times. It's like, yes,
send the National Guard in early. So the writers know
what they're potentially up against. That has to have some
kind of effect on the crazy people knowing that they,
you know, the real soldiers are around the corner.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah. Psychologically, you know, when you get a new sheriff
in town like Da Nathan Hockman, like President Trump, I
think they're going to do great pains to get the
message across that. You probably saw one of the Nathan
Hackman press conferences a few weeks ago. You know, don't
don't be confused, folks, if you break the law, you know,
if you steal, if you shoplift, we are going to
(10:51):
prosecute you. You're going to go to prison. And that's
so different from the message the politicians, you know, the
George Kascons and others have given the same. With Trump,
you know, he's send this message, you know, he goes
overboard and he says, you know, you know, you show
up at a riot, we'll shoot you. But he's sending
a message that this is a different administration, a different approach.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
All right, very good, Royal Oaks, and we'll await the decision.
Thank you, all right from ABC News Legal analyst, Royal Oaks.
And we'll see if the decision comes this afternoon. But
Royal thought that at least two of the three and
maybe all three judges on the appeals court panel seemed
to be on Trump's side of the legal argument when
(11:32):
it came to Trump controlling the National Guard for the
LA riots.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
When we come.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Back, there's a pull out on what the public thinks
on Trump sending the National Guard to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We've got the Moistline for Friday eight seven seven Moist
eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six or usually
talkback feature on the ie Heart radio app. And if
the three judge panel Court of Appeals is going to
issue a ruling today on whether Trump or Newsom can
have control of the National Guard right now in the
face of the la riots, we will. We will give
(12:15):
you that news immediately, Deborah feel free burst in no
matter what's going on here, I will. Because they just
had the hearing as of a few minutes ago, it
was nearing its final stage. Royal Oaks, the ABCS need
ABC News legal analyst. He watched the whole hearing. It
was it was online. I wasn't able to see it.
(12:37):
But in his opinion, the two Trump appointed judges on
the three judge panel seemed in their comments and questions
to be definitely on the Trump side, and he thought
even the Democratic appointed judge was quite sympathetic to the
Trumps sides argument. So we'll find out for sure, well
(12:58):
hopefully today at the moment, Trump still has control of
the National Guard, and what he says goes now. Harvard
Harris has a poll out and it looks like majority
support for Trump sending in the National Guard into Los
(13:19):
Angeles by a fifty six to forty four margin. Fifty
six forty four. This is a national poll, and it
seems that in general, the big majority of the public
likes what Trump is doing regarding immigration. Here's a straight
ahead question, do you support or oppose the administration's actions
(13:39):
to close the southern border? Sixty three percent of the
country says yes, we support him closing the border, and
fifty fifty six percent support the National Guard coming in. So,
despite what you see on television, because of all the
(14:00):
progressive reporters and news directors, producers, editors that spin just
about everything against Trump, I mean, Connoy and I were
talking about this the other day off the air. You
watch the news, local news here, got these local news stations.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Some of them are just abominable.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It's just one tier jerker report after another after another
after another, totally one sided, totally biased, totally slanted, all
emotional manipulation about feeling sorry for people who are getting
deported or people whose family members got deported.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And I mean it was just incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
These people never covered very much when illegal aliens committed
violent crimes, and we had victims of violent crimes. But
what gets the full skin that La times is like
this too. I mean, I don't know, are people really
saw incoherently after hearing and reading all these sob stories,
(15:06):
most of the public says, yeah, this is what should
be going on, that's the law. Nearly I mean, most
of the support comes from well, I mean only even
forty percent of Democrats, even forty percent of Democrats support
what Trump is doing at the border. Eighty seven percent
(15:28):
of the Republicans, sixty two percent of Independence. So you're
you're talking about a group of people who so progressive
they've lost their minds and they don't care if criminal
aliens are coming over the border.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Or you've got.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
People who oppose something just because Trump supports It's there's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Of that these days.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I would say it's probably less than ten percent of
the country wants illegal alien criminals coming over the border.
Is it even five percent? The rest of it is
because I'd like to I'd like to talk to these
people and say, well, why is it good to have
wide open borders with criminals running amok? Are you really
(16:11):
supporting that? Are you really in favor of that? Or
it's just your your limited brain power, your your brain
reflects that if if if Trump suggests it, then you're
against it. Uh, I mean it's I don't understand the thinking.
And nobody ever write everybody writes about how Trump is
(16:33):
is a king, is a dictator? Is this is that
nobody makes the case for a wide open border with
criminal aliens coming across. I've never seen anybody put that
into words in a coherent argument. You look at the
policies they support, but the policies are always about criticizing Trump,
the policies that the writing is not about supporting.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The progressive's policies here, because how would you write that,
How would you write that column?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
How would you write that story to let in gang
members from MS thirteen or trendy Iagua to rape and
kill young girls. What I hear is is like, well,
it's not that many. That's Terry picking stories. It's like no, no, no,
don't change the subject. Don't tell me not that many.
(17:23):
Let's talk about the actual actions. If you could do
something to stop even one young girl from getting raped
and murdered by an illegal alien criminal, would you do it?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Who's going to say no?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And the best way to limit that kind of carnage
is to shut the border down entirely. Right, Is there
a better way than that? No, not that I'm aware of,
But if you have one, please tell us. And that's
where you know. It's just the reflex Trump suggests it.
Therefore I'm against it, no matter how rational that is.
(18:02):
And you just give the polster your silly answer and
you don't suffer any any penalty for that. Eighty eighty
percent of the public support a plan to deport illegal
aliens who have committed crimes. Eighty percent. Now, who's the
twenty percent against it? The families, the relatives of the criminals.
(18:31):
There's a lot of there's a lot of polling that
Harvard Harris did. We're going to talk at two o'clock
with the guy who actually he wrote that. He wrote
the story for Center, the Center for Immigration Studies on
the poll and he also had a separate story that
got published yesterday about the seven hundred and fifty thousand
(18:51):
to one million illegal immigrants who have self deported under Trump.
And his name is Art Arthur, Center for Immigration Studies,
and he's going to come on with us at two
o'clock when we come back that dopey clown, the sitting
Senator of California, although he was laying face down after
(19:15):
Christy Noolman's security got through with him, Alex Padea, he
went on the floor of the Senate. Usually, when you
do an embarrassing flop like Padilla did, you pretend it
never happened and you never raised the issue again. Instead,
he went to the Senate floor and gave a long
emotional speech about how he suffered.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
This is all he's ever gonna be known for.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
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Speaker 1 (19:48):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock.
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Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's when you listen to what you miss.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
We're gonna play you some clips of Alex Padilla, the
buffoon who got thrown to the ground by Christy noms
security after he barged in on Nomes' press conference question
and answer and started shouting. Didn't identify himself, wasn't even
dressed properly. You know, if you're sitting, if you're a
(20:16):
sitting senator, you at least ought to have a jacket
and tie on. But before I get there, I had
mentioned at the end of the last segment that there's
a new poll out by Harvard Harris which had support
for Trump closing the border sixty three percent and also
supported Trump sending the National Guard to LA fifty six
(20:37):
to forty four.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And then I noticed that they.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Did a national poll of favorability for various big names,
and they put Gavin Newsoman in the poll. Do you
know what his national favorability rating is twenty nine percent.
That's higher than I thought. His unfavorable rating is thirty
(21:06):
six and thirty five percent of the public either has
no opinion or never heard of them. Yeah, there's a
lot of fascinating stuff here. Karen Bass's national approval rating
is seventeen percent. So the rest of the country looks
at these two as being failures idiots. They also had
(21:31):
a pull. And then this is why I always got
to stress this. When you see protesters, they represent a
tiny slice of the public. The public is not rebelling.
The public is sitting home largely. They're eating and drinking
with their families on a Sunday. They're watching sports on television.
(21:52):
They are not standing in the heat for eight hours
chanting stupid rhymes. That is not the public. Harvard Harris
did a favorability rating. You know what number one is
in this country? The military seventy six percent, police sixty
four percent. So who do you think the public can
aside with when there's a riot in Los Angeles? It's
(22:15):
going to be the police and the National Guard. That's
who they're going to side with. So military seventy six,
police sixty four. Gavin Newsom twenty nine, Karen Bass seventeen.
That is not a launching pad to run for national office,
to come out against the police and the National Guard.
(22:35):
Now what protest movement? The first you know, for the
last year and a half has overwhelmed most other protest movements.
It's been the Palestinians right supporting Hamas. Do you know
what the favorability rating for Hamas is in this country?
Nine percent. That's what's showing up in the streets. That's
(22:57):
what's showing up at the universe of these It's not
normal people, it's this crazy progressive fringe nine percent. You know,
Bass only has six more points approval rating than Vladimir Putin.
(23:20):
Let me get to Padilla here, Alex Padilla if you
haven't heard, he's the idiot who stormed the Homeland Security
Secretary's press conference, Christy Noome here in Los Angeles. He
storms in while she's speaking doing a question and answer
with reporters, and he starts shouting and he was grabbed.
(23:41):
He pushed back, then he got dragged out and thrown
to the ground and handcuffed. Didn't identify himself until after
he was shouting, and then he was not wearing his
Senate pin or any other id He wasn't dressed like
a senator. He looked like a guy who jumped off
the ups truck and maybe he was gonna blow.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The room up.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
That's the way he was acting, and that's how he
was treated. So he goes on the Senate floor and
instead of pretending this never happened or apologizing, we're gonna
play you. Let's start with cut three, because he gets
really emotional about his experience getting taken down by the
federal agents.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You've seen the video.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I was pushed and pulled, struggled to.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Maintain my balance.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I was forced to the ground, first on my knees.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And then flat on my chest. This is good and
it's I was handcuffed.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And marched down a hallway, repeatedly asking why am I
being detained? Not once did they tell me why?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You didn't know? I pray you never have a moment likeness.
That's right, he had said he wasn't. But I will
tell you.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
In that moment, a lot of questions came to my mind.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
First of all, where are they taking me? Because I
don't know. I'm not just being escorted out of the building. Well,
he's like, DON'TO isn't he? Am I being arrested?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Here?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
And what will a city already on edge from being
militarized think when they see their United States senator being
handcuffed just for trying to ask a question?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What did he go bag? Their senator? I don't know
what will our boys think? Wait, way, back that up?
Back that up? They And what will my wife think?
I know what will our boys think? I know that too.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
And I also remember asking myself, if this aggressive escalation
is the result of someone speaking up against the abuses
and overreach of the Trump administration, was it really worth it?
(26:33):
The colleagues, how many Americans in our nation's history have marched,
how protested, oh have shed blood? Even lost their lives
to protect our rights. How many Americans have served in
wars overseas to protect our freedoms?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Here, that's you shedding blood and fighting.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
And how many Americans in the year twenty twenty five
see a vindictive president on a tour of retribution, unrestrained
by the majority of this separate and coequal branch of government,
and wonder if it's worth it to stand up or
to speak out A the United States Center becomes too
(27:21):
afraid to speak up, how can we expect any other
American to do the same, Colleagues, you know me. I
can't think of a person who would describe.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Me as a flamethrower.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I try to be considerate to every member of this body,
regardless of our political differences.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
My God, what a drama.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Queen, good lord, twenty minutes of that, twenty minutes of that,
you listen to that whole thing?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I did? Oh, bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well you picked the three good minutes there we got,
we got some more stuff. What was he like auditioning
for an opera or something? I mean, what, God?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And he has no idea why it happened? Really, he
has no idea.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I ask you imagine that you go over to an
FBI building and the director of Homeland Security, a woman
is inside the building. There's riding that's been going on
for days in LA. She's talking to the press. You
go in there and start shouting, and then you start
(28:46):
pushing and shoving with security. What do you think is
going to happen to you? What should happen to you?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
John, I'm telling you so many people, so many people
thought that what did that?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
He's a hero now?
Speaker 6 (29:03):
And people thought that secret service that they were out
of control. And there are so many people that so
many people in Los Angeles Y support Padilla?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So they don't see he's a clown. No, because he was,
Because he was he defies Trump. Therefore he's a hero.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That he spoke out, he spoke out. What was his question?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
By the way, we never got to the to the
big question that was worth being dragged out into the
hallway over.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
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Almost a million illegal aliens have self deported since Trump
took over.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
A little reported.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Major achievement is a lot of people packing up and
leaving on their own. And we're going to talk with
Art Arthur from the Center Firm Immigration Studies about how
even how do you even figure that out? How do
you figure out that a million people? I mean it's
an estimate, but how do you even know that you're
near an accurate number?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That app that CBP APP Well, that would be a
good start.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, if people are doing it formally, well, yeah, because
they get the thousand dollars for Yeah, So we'll talk
to Art Arthur and we'll talk to him about that.
That poll, and you haven't heard Gavin Newsom has a
twenty nine percent national approval rating. Twenty nine percent. That
is a launching pad for the US presidency if Ivor
(30:50):
saw one. All right, Well, continue now with Alex Padia.
In the last segment, we played Padilla crying. He actually
went on the Senate for Floord started crying, recounting how
he got thrown the floor by Christy Noms security agents.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
He was that kid, right.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He had he never gotten beaten up on the playground. Well,
by the way, has he been in the military. I
don't know his background at all. He is such an
anonymous figure as I don't think the soldiers are coming
back from more going. Oh, they shout at be you're
the one who busted in. Yeah, they threw it to
(31:27):
the floor. What a baby, What an embarrassment. That's your judgment.
H in California. Huh, he's the senator gets roughed up
a little after he burst in on Christy Nome and
now he's sobbing.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Good lord.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Here's another cut of his speech about Trump testing his power.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Touch six.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Donald Trump is continuing to test the boundaries of his power,
and he's surrounded himself with yes men and underqualified attack dogs,
from the DHS secretary to the FBI director to the
Secretary of Defense, who will rubber staff every anti democratic
step he takes. This administration's officials is what and maybe
(32:22):
not all, but many Republicans in Congress may choose not
to do their job, but they cannot stop me from
doing mine.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I refuse to let.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Immigrants be political poems. On his path towards fascism, fatchism,
enforcing a democratic law.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
This is fascinating. Padia is clearly insane. He knows a
kind of weak sounding Uh. If you have a law
passed by the majority of the Senate and the House,
and you have a majority elect a specific president, and
(33:06):
that says the president has complete authority over who gets deported.
So it was a democratically decided issue. We selected the
House members, we selected the Senate members, we selected the president.
And this goes back many decades. We've had these laws,
and I believe in the Constitution it gives Trump this authority.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Biden had the authority too, so did Obama.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Obama used his authority to deport millions of illegal immigrants.
Biden used his authority to let in millions of illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Trump is more aligned with Obama.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
In fact, Trump has a long way to go to
reach Obama's numbers. So I don't see how any of
this is fascism. We've had several I mean, Bush was
a disaster on immigration. He's the one who started his
latest way with his amnesty idea, going back to I
think two thousand and four, he was offering amnesty to
(34:06):
all the illegal aliens and that led to a huge surge.
We played you clips of Bill Clinton, who was strongly
against illegal immigration, strongly for deportation, Hillary Clinton when she
ran as far back as two thousand and eight, and
then Obama, they were very definitive. So Trump actually follows
(34:30):
through on what Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Obama talked about,
and Trump's a fascist over it. He actually does something
similar to what Obama did in terms of deportation numbers.
Padilla is a stooge. It just is a stooge. There's
nothing you can do. Tell me, do you think that's
(34:52):
even ninety IQ points inside that head? Be honest, you
think that even hits ninety IQ points? When we come
back Art Arthur from the Center for Immigration Studies, he
had a story that was in the New York Post.
Estimate is close to a million people may have already
self deported. Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four
(35:15):
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