August 27, 2025 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (08/27) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. CA State Assemblyman Carl DeMaio comes on the show to talk about the language surrounding Prop 50 and redistricting that was released. There is a civil war in California. Should we split up California?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't find a M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's the John Cobelt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for
John Cobelt all this week. California State Assembly Member Carl
DeMaio joins us as we now are beginning to learn more.
So the Secretary of State, Shirley Weber is the one
that's going to present to the voters the language of Prop.
Fifty and that's always been a real perilous situation. Carl,
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do we know anything about what she plans on doing
because we know that the attempt is going to be
to mislead the voter.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yes, we know what she's gonna do. She's gonna lie,
any questions, none at all.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm positively completely sure. You're right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They're gonna have to lie because the truth is outrageous.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Look, there's a pattern of bad behavior by these state politicians,
and Kamala Harris actually started the bad behavior back in
twenty fourteen and again in twenty sixteen as Attorney General.
She started crafting false and misleading ballot statements. Remember Prop
forty seven. They said it was a crime fighting initiative.
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When in fact it took tools away from police and prosecutors.
That's why we had to do Prop thirty six this
last election to repeal Prop forty seven. Prop forty seventh
title was misleading. And then again in twenty eighteen the
gas tax repeal, they changed the title so it had
nothing to do with gas tax repeal. It said that
we were going to cancel road repair projects, which was
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not true. And so these politicians have been taking more
and more license to lie to voters with these false
and misleading ballot titles. And so I fully expected at
five o'clock tonight when we get to see the ballot title,
that it will be false and misleading, and we have
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to prepare to educate voters that the same politicians claiming
that they're saving democracy don't us the voters at the truth.
They're trying to defraud voters of an honest and fair
election by lying to them on the title on this initiative.
It's corrupt, but hey, it's what we have come to
expect in California politics.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What about the whole Texas thing, the idea that originally
it was about a reaction to Texas, but then the
word Texas and any mention of other states was stripped
from the ultimate piece of legislation.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Does that work against them in any way?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Does that to give us an opportunity to say, hey,
it's always been about a power grab.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, as you saw in Politico on Monday, they actually
have a scoop. They blew the lid open on the
real truth, and that is that Democrats have been plotting
in California. The politicians have been plotting for the last
fifteen years for an opportunity to eliminate the independent California
Redistricting Commission. The citizens took the power to do the
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line drawing in twenty ten in a citizen's initiative. Matthew
Pelosi tried spending a one hundred million dollars to defeat
it back then, and the citizens said, no, we want
the power, not the politicians. But for the last fifteen years,
the politicians have been quietly lying in wait with emphasis
online so that they can see the power back. And
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so they're using Texas as an excuse. They're using people's
hatred of Trump as a motivator to get the people
of California to give the power back to the politicians,
so the politicians can manipulate the lines. Jerry manderin is
wrong no matter where it's done. It's wrong in Texas,
it's wrong in Maryland, it's wrong in Illinois, and it
would be wrong in California. So why would we diminish
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our democracy? Why would we undermine fair elections by voting
to give politicians back the ability to jerry mander in California.
It is insane. It's not what the voters want, and
we're going to work hard to make sure the voters
can protect this important reform.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Buy and large and I don't know if this supplies
in California, but buy and large with respect to Democrats
with Trump Arrangement syndrome, their level of Trump Arrangement syndrome
and Trump hatred tends to cause them to overplay their hand.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We see this at the Attorney General in New York,
and we see this in Atlanta with Bonnie Willis. You
see this in other states and other high profile Democrats
who have overplayed their Trump hatred and wound up collapsing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is there a potential here? What can we expect?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Are they going to go with vote yes on Prop
fifty to stop Donald Trump and just leave it at
that are they going to go anti Trump all the way?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Absolutely. Their polling shows that if you tap into the
hatred of Democrats for Trump, that you can motivate them
to the polls and motivate them to do something that
ordinarily they wouldn't want to do if they were just
thinking about what was at stake. And that's what they're
trying to do. They're trying to use hatred and use
emotion to get voters to do something bad for democracy.
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And so that's why we have to make sure that
we get the message out to voters and the No
on Prop fifty campaign we are working very hard. We're
asking people to join the fight. Go to Defendfair Elections
dot org. That's our campaign website, Defendfair Elections dot org.
We need to get the word out to voters that
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the politicians are going to lie to them on their ballot.
They should vote know on Prop fifty if they want
to make sure they defend the citizens Independent Redistricting Commission
and keep the politicians out of manipulating the lines of
election districts. So we need everyone to join Defend Fair
Elections dot org.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And what time today will we learn about the ballot
title develot the ballot language.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So miss hasn't been reported in the media, but I'll
let you know your listeners. I was appointed by Newsom.
He didn't realize what he was getting to be the
official No on Prop. Fifty, the ballot argument manager for
our side. I found that out at five o'clock on Friday.
So we've been working all weekend throughout this week to
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make sure that we file our opposition statements that will
appear in the official ballot booklet. We filed our opposition
statement on Monday. This evening, we're going to file our
rebuttal to their proponent statement, and of course, at five
o'clock we will also get the Secretary of State transmitting
to us the official ballot title. We expect that that's
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going to be a false title, and we will be
meeting with our lawyers starting at six o'clock to determine
whether we take and file a lawsuit on this matter.
I suspect we will be in court by tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You mean that the governor assigns the person that's the
official opponent and the opponent the writer of the of
the opponent statement that was assigned to you.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like our side doesn't get I'm glad it's you. I'm
just saying that.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Under state law, the if a measure is put on
the ballot by the legislature, then one of the legislators
who voted no on the matter has to be selected
to manage the official arguments in opposition. And I'm fine
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doing the work. And we've been working to make sure
that we make a good case against Prop fifty. We
have good signers. I'm thrilled that we have a bipartisan
coalition that's been built. And these are not politicians. These
are people who care about our democracy, who want fairness,
who don't want politicians to manipulate lines. And so I
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think our arguments are strong. But the ballot title is false,
and we know what they're intending to do with the
ballot title. So we have to make sure that we
get the word out to voters, and I guess we'll
have to do that through a campaign. So we need
people's help that the website defend Fair Elections do. People
should sign up and chip in at that site.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
California State Assembly Member Carl Demile, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Always appreciate filling us up, getting us up to speed
on this.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
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Speaker 3 (08:10):
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The proposition will be called PROMP fifty. I suspect you're
gonna hear a lot about it on the radio, on television.
There's gonna be a lot of mail. We just talked
with California State Assembly Member Carl Demile. I have known
Carl for a long time, and this is among his superpowers.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Carl's good at some things. He has strengths, and there
are some things for which he is truly a superhero.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And communication, mass communication is one of his strengths. So
I am pleased that he has been assigned the manager
of the messaging of the opposition to Prop.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It is really true that the ballot titles that are
given to us by the Democrats when they are in
charge of the Secretary of State's office are so misleading.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you know this. When you get a like a.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You use some organization to explain the ballot to you.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There are lots of organizations that will send out voter guides.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In fact, Carl Demiles organization Reformed California is among the
best in that it is absolutely clear and it is
completely honest. It's nonpartisan, but it is real language, like
normal talk about what.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's going to do.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like there are times when I have voted for fee increases,
like toll roads, things like that. Like there are times
when I have actually taxed myself because the benefit of
the service outweighs the cost, even though I don't think
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I should be paying for toll roads in my own state.
If my state is refusing to widen the freeway, then
I will vote for an extension of Measure M, which
is a local sales tax to fund the toll road
er or fix roads locally.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right, Like, I'm okay with the language. If it is
a Democrat idea or a Republican idea, just be square.
And I noticed that when.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Citizens initiatives propositions are placed in front of voters in
California and they are clear, by and large, a majority
of Californians tend to be more fiscally conservative. We saw
that in the twenty twenty election. We saw that in
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the twenty twenty two election. Like there are, there is
a pretty strong track record of Californians when they are
able to get the information, and they're able to get
the information more clearly today than ever before. This is
one of those areas where social media does help educate
because the official line from the Democrat governor is so
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misleading and there's so many voices out there to correct
it that it becomes very clear that they're trying to
mislead you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And that's going to happen here in Prop fifty. I
think this will be the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Most dishonest delivery of an opportunity for the citizens to
vote on something, But there will be so many voices.
I mean, you want to run the political spectrum When
you have both California states asembly member Karl Demayo and
former Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on the same page with
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a no, there's a lot of people in between. So
I think it's going to be a good fight and
one worth having. And if it doesn't go my way,
I'm I'm kind of up for that fight too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I want to know on fifty, I don't think that
the politicians should be able to draw their own districts.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think this is moving us in a very bad place.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But if we're going to go there, and if a
majority of Californians decide yeah, yeah, I hate Trump so
much that I am going to ruin California and ruin
the representation of my neighbor who is a fellow Californian
just happens to be a Republican.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I want to take away their right to.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Be represented by a representative in Congress that agrees with them.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Because I so hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
If that's the way a majority of the Californians, Republicans, Democrats,
and Independents go, then it's on.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Then. Let Texas do what it's.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Doing, Let Maryland do what it's doing, Let Indiana do
what it's doing. Let Iowa do what it's doing. And
that is strong red states. Jerrymander out the Democrats. And
if California wants to jerrymander out the Republicans, there fifty states.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Let's see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We have had wars, and we have had cold wars,
we have had a civil war in this country, and
we are now in the midst of a cold Civil war.
This is just yet another step in the Cold Civil War.
When you have actual governors who are supposed to be
beyond politics, right, that's what they always say. Once elected,
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you represent everybody in the state, Republican, Democrat, and independent.
That's what you always hear at the inaugural address, whether
it's Governor Gavitt or any other governor.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Once they get elected, they.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and they always assured
to you that you're going to be a governor for
all people.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm gonna be a governor for all Californians. And then
he's not.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's leading the effort to cheat on behalf of Democrats
in our state, denying Republican Californians the opportunity to be
represented by a Republican in Congress. So for the and
again this is inside baseball, so there's gonna have to
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be a lot of education that goes on here. So
let me give you a quick, just a quick thumbnail
sketch about how all this works. There are four hundred
and thirty five members of Congress. Right, they are assigned
by population. Each member of Congress represents about seven hundred
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and seventy thousand people. Roughly, and you try and divide
up the country among four hundred and thirty five sets
of seven hundred and seventy thousand people, and in California
we got about fifty two sets of seven hundred and
seventy thousand. Now, where that's called the congressional district. Now,
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how do you make that?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What's the shape of that congressional district? Well, I mean,
there should be some rules to it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It should be city whole, county whole, communities of interest
regions that makes sense, people that have common interests. It
should not include whether there are Republicans or Democrats in
the district. It should include whether or not there are
city dwellers, suburban heights, whether it's rural, whether it's farming,
whether it's inner city. Right, there's a lot of retired
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veterans there. There should be a VA hospital somewhere close by,
like those kinds of things. And there are also some
Civil Rights era requirements under the federal law.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay, so you draw the lines and you without.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Regard to registration of party, and you try and keep
city whole hole.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Kind of normal looking congressional districts.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And there you go, and we in California said, the
politicians can't do that because of course the politicians are
Republican's going to want to have more registered Republicans in that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
District and a Democrat the same. So that's human nature.
So let's not let the politicians do it. Let's let
the citizens do it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Let it be independent, And that's what we did in
twenty ten, an independent citizens Commission to do it. Prop
fifty goes in the opposite direction and puts it in
the hands of the politicians who are in power, that
is Democrats who are going to make squiggly, crazy lines
that look like salamanders, which is where Jerry Mander comes from,
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Governor Gary of Massachusetts back in the eighteen hundreds. We're
going to make squiggly wiggly lines all weird looking shaped
districts so that they incorporate the most amount of registered Democrats,
so to give a Democrat candidate a better chance.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Of getting elected. That's what they're about. Absolutely outrageous. There
you go.
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with us. Prop fifty is on the way, which means
jerry mandering is on the way in California.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You don't think it's right at California, It's probably not right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But what the hell.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Oils are we supposed to do to freak and try
to fight what's going on in Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So if you are concerned about what's going on in Texas,
then go to Texas and tell the people of Texas
what's going on is wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If you are concerned that President Trump might and the
Republican Party might hold the House of Representatives in the
upcoming midterm election, then you don't have to cheat, and
you don't have to call upon your Democrat members of
the state legislature to cheat. You can just campaign for
Democrats in Republican districts.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You could keep the districts the same.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And use your energies to convince your fellow Californians that
you should not vote for a Republican. You should vote
for a Democrat to stop the Trump agenda, if that's
what you think, Like it's a citizen democracy, I mean,
we're in charge, Like why are you abdicating we the
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people and handing it over to the politicians. There are
eighty members of the California State Assembly and forty members
of the California State Senate. There are thirty nine million Californians.
So if you don't want Trump to have a Republican
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House of Representatives for the second two years of his term,
because you somehow think that is really important, and that's fine.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That's if I was a Democrat, I'd want to win
the I want to win control of the House too,
And as I've said, historically, it's likely that any Republican
president would lose.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
House seats to the opposite party.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So it's very likely that he that he might who knows,
it's a very different world because he's a two term president,
but there were two nonconsecutive terms, so many respects, this
is his first term all over again, and there really
isn't any historical reference to that. But be that as
it may. If you, as a Californian, want there to
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be a Democrat controlled House, of representatives in the upcoming
midterm election, which is four hundred and forty three days away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So you got a goodly amount of time to go.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Talk to your fellow Californian and say, hey, I know
you're Trump supporter. I know you live in a congressional
district that's represented by a Republican where President Trump won
by ten percentage points and the Republican congressman was reelected
by sixty five percent of the vote.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But I want to talk with you.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I want to tell you that Trump is bad, Orange
Man bad, and.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You should vote for a Democrat. Like go have that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They'll throw a beer at you, but at least you're
doing your job as a citizen.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Hey, lou you guys might not have been ten to
worry about. I was a Republican for twenty years of
my life. This past election, I stopped being Republican and
registered as an independent because I'm just tired of everybody's stupidness.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't recommend you do that.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm not a big fan of the whole independent thing.
Everybody likes to believe they're independent. I'm independent. I don't
take my marching orders from anybody.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like everybody likes to.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Say that it's very self aggrandizing, but this is politics
and you got to get in the game. Not a
huge fan of the no party preference. I don't believe
you when you tell me you have no party preference.
I frankly find that unbelievable. Clearly, there has to be
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a political philosophy that rules your personal constitution and the
way you view yourself in business with respect to government
has to be I mean, at the end of the day,
regardless of the issue at hand, regardless of the question
before you, you are either in favor of smaller government,
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smaller control over your life and your business, lower taxes,
a lower tax burden, more individual freedom, and more personal responsibility,
and are willing to suffer the consequences.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You either believe that in all matters, or you believe in.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
More government regulation over your life and your business. Bigger
government control, less freedom, higher taxes, less personal and responsibility,
and no consequences. In fact, you're the victim of some
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other thing, and you believe that in all matters concerning
your life and your business. You have to fall into
one of those two camps. Like most of the time. Now,
no political party defines you all day, every day. There
are Republicans that are social conservatives. There are Republicans that
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are fiscal conservatives. There are Republicans that are civil libertarians.
There are Democrats that are Catholic and pro life. There
are pro business Democrats. Now they're called moderate Democrats. It
used to be called blue collar Democrats. There are progressives
which are communists right. There are social Democrats socialists, which
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is in fact the Democrat party. Now there are absolute
maniacs out there on both sides.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
No political parties perfect, but one of the two of
them more closely reflects the way you think about the world.
And if you're not sure, you're not doing enough deep thinking,
and you need to do a little more self reflection.
Because it is up to you. It is we the people,
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it is citizen government. We're in charge. Remember, we don't
make the laws. We elect the lawmakers. So we got
to get in the game. So pick a team and
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Speaker 1 (24:18):
Good to have you along with us.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Coming up following the news at three, we'll talk with
Republican leader James Gallagher. He had a press conference today.
He introduced legislation, actually a resolution, in response to Sacramento's
attempt to jerrymander California's congressional map. This is to effectively
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create a new state, to split California into two states.
He calls it the two state solution, and we will
find out which state will be in. I gotta look
at the map. I think we're in the bad state.
I don't know if there's any plans for a Berlin
airlift from the good part of California to get us supplies.
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But it appears that the liberal crazy California will be
Los Angeles County and up the coast, and the Republican
votes will be mostly Inland. What's interesting is geographically speaking,
the good California is a lot bigger than the crazy California.
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There's been a couple of attempts to split California into
two states. There was an attempt about ten years ago
for California and Southern California. I remember because it was
not North California, in South California.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It wasn't gonna be like the dakotas well the Carolinas.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I don't know if this will be like the Virginia's
will be California and West California. I don't know if
they got that far, but they are looking at splitting
California again. Look, these are all signs now this will
be interesting. I don't know how serious Gallagher is. I
suspect he realizes there's probably a long way to go
before we split California into two. But he is the
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Republican leader, so the fact that he throws it out
there does matter. It means that there is significant dissatisfaction
with the way this state is run, and the state
is powerful. California is the nation's largest state by population.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It is the nation's.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Largest state as far as gross domestic product by far.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like that's something I think that is notable.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Like, we're not just the largest GDP of all the
other forty nine states. We're way bigger than the second
largest GDP.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know, We're not just the most populous state.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We're way bigger than the second most populous state, so
California is somewhat of an anomaly when it comes to
the other forty nine states.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now that's good for us and bad for us.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's good for us because it's good to be the
number one in gross domestic product and gross and population,
but we're also number one on a lot of bad things,
right number one in homelessness, number one in taxes, number.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
One in crime, number one in illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So being on top has its privileges, but also some
of the negative side effects. It also it just kind
of throws off the other forty nine states and makes.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It very hard for us to work in a union.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Because California has way more representatives in the House of Representatives.
You know, we're losing them every ten years, and we're
set to lose I think they say three more congressional
seats in the next census in twenty thirty, So we'll
see if.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
California is brought down to size, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But the gross domestic product, the total output of goods
and services out of the state is still going to
be quite high, and we ought to be able to
use that to our advantage. I remember that used to
bother then Governor Schwarzenegger. Governor Schwarzenegger, I worked closely with
the administration. I was working in Congress at the time,
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and there was some talk of my boss running for
lieutenant governor on the Schwarzenegger ticket. So we were close
to that team, and I just was in a lot
of conversations with the Schwarzenegger team and one of the
things that struck him, and it really ought to strike
every Californian in office, whether it's Republican or Democrat, we
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really ought to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Rule DC.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Giving given our large s, whether it's Republican or Democrat,
there are still federal services that we don't get our
fair share up. We are, in fact a donor state.
That means you, whether you are Republican, Democrat, declined to
st a, whatever you are, Green Party, libertarian, vegetarian, whatever
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you are, you're a Californian and you're also paying federal taxes.
Will you and I pay more in federal taxes than
we received back in federal services.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's not always the case. That's not the case in Texas,
it's not the case in Arizona. It's not the case.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I mean some of these states that have high profile
senators that are chairmen of major committees, they have really
good stuff. I remember at one point the Senate leader
in the United States Senate was from I think it
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was South Dakota, one of the Dakota's I don't remember now.
But one of the benefits of being a Senate leader
and representing a small state like one of the two
Dakotas is you're able to funnel a whole lot of
federal dollars to your own infrastructure. So the roads and
off ramps in South Dakota were beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
For a number of years.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
The senior Senator and the junior Senator from Arizona, we're
in charge of the Transportation Committee, and you go to
Arizona and take a look at some of those off
ramps off of federal highways like the ten in really
good shape, constantly being improved. So that's just one example.
Right Like any federal highway is going to get federal dollars.
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You have lawmakers that are powerful from your state, they're
able to bring home those kinds of federal dollars. In California,
we have every need there is, we have need for
federal highways we have infrastructure needs, we have needs for
veteran services, I mean everything up and down.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Right. So, but we don't have strong, powerful senators.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And while we had the Speaker of the House in
both parties, there was a time that whether or not
Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House or Kevin McCarthy
was Speaker of the House, Frankly, as a California federal
tax payer, you probably shouldn't care because either one was
good for you because you were a Californian. And at
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the end of the day, they are going to write
legislation and carve up budgets that favor California. And it
wouldn't even have to favor California. Just give us our
fair share. We're a donor state, which means I think
the number is ninety three for we get back ninety
three cents for every dollar we send to the federal
government collectively as a state.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
In federal services.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So one of the things that then Governor Schwarzenegger was
aggravated about is how come when it cut like you
got I get it. It's the big political fight here
Republicans eight Democrats, Democrats hat Republicans up in Sacramento. I
get all that, and you guys can all hate each other,
but when you all leave California on airplanes out of
San Francisco and LAA in San Diego and Fresno, and
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you all fly to Washington, DC when it comes to
federal stuff, because there is like this Veterans hospital isn't partisan.
So when it comes to federal appropriations, why don't y'
all get together and make sure that California gets its
fair share? And he even tried to organize retreats out
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in Palm Springs to bring the congressional delegations together and
agree on those kinds of things. It was never able
to pull it off because the partisanship was too poisonous
to allow Californians Republicans and Democrats in Congress to work
together to not make us a donor state to the
federal government. So it's been broken for a while and
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now the Republican leader, James Gallagher says it's too broke
to fix.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Let's just divorce. We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Louke Penrose if John Cobalt on the John Coblt Show
on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
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You can always hear the show live on KFI Am
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's the John Cobelt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for
John Cobelt all this week. California State Assembly Member Carl
DeMaio joins us as we now are beginning to learn more.
So the Secretary of State, Shirley Weber is the one
that's going to present to the voters the language of Prop.
Fifty and that's always been a real perilous situation. Carl,
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do we know anything about what she plans on doing
because we know that the attempt is going to be
to mislead the voter.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yes, we know what she's gonna do. She's gonna lie,
any questions, none at all.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm positively completely sure. You're right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They're gonna have to lie because the truth is outrageous.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Look, there's a pattern of bad behavior by these state politicians,
and Kamala Harris actually started the bad behavior back in
twenty fourteen and again in twenty sixteen as Attorney General.
She started crafting false and misleading ballot statements. Remember Prop
forty seven. They said it was a crime fighting initiative.
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When in fact it took tools away from police and prosecutors.
That's why we had to do Prop thirty six this
last election to repeal Prop forty seven. Prop forty seventh
title was misleading. And then again in twenty eighteen the
gas tax repeal, they changed the title so it had
nothing to do with gas tax repeal. It said that
we were going to cancel road repair projects, which was
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not true. And so these politicians have been taking more
and more license to lie to voters with these false
and misleading ballot titles. And so I fully expected at
five o'clock tonight when we get to see the ballot title,
that it will be false and misleading, and we have
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to prepare to educate voters that the same politicians claiming
that they're saving democracy don't us the voters at the truth.
They're trying to defraud voters of an honest and fair
election by lying to them on the title on this initiative.
It's corrupt, but hey, it's what we have come to
expect in California politics.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What about the whole Texas thing, the idea that originally
it was about a reaction to Texas, but then the
word Texas and any mention of other states was stripped
from the ultimate piece of legislation.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Does that work against them in any way?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Does that to give us an opportunity to say, hey,
it's always been about a power grab.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, as you saw in Politico on Monday, they actually
have a scoop. They blew the lid open on the
real truth, and that is that Democrats have been plotting
in California. The politicians have been plotting for the last
fifteen years for an opportunity to eliminate the independent California
Redistricting Commission. The citizens took the power to do the
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line drawing in twenty ten in a citizen's initiative. Matthew
Pelosi tried spending a one hundred million dollars to defeat
it back then, and the citizens said, no, we want
the power, not the politicians. But for the last fifteen years,
the politicians have been quietly lying in wait with emphasis
online so that they can see the power back. And
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so they're using Texas as an excuse. They're using people's
hatred of Trump as a motivator to get the people
of California to give the power back to the politicians,
so the politicians can manipulate the lines. Jerry manderin is
wrong no matter where it's done. It's wrong in Texas,
it's wrong in Maryland, it's wrong in Illinois, and it
would be wrong in California. So why would we diminish
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our democracy? Why would we undermine fair elections by voting
to give politicians back the ability to jerry mander in California.
It is insane. It's not what the voters want, and
we're going to work hard to make sure the voters
can protect this important reform.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Buy and large and I don't know if this supplies
in California, but buy and large with respect to Democrats
with Trump Arrangement syndrome, their level of Trump Arrangement syndrome
and Trump hatred tends to cause them to overplay their hand.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We see this at the Attorney General in New York,
and we see this in Atlanta with Bonnie Willis. You
see this in other states and other high profile Democrats
who have overplayed their Trump hatred and wound up collapsing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is there a potential here? What can we expect?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Are they going to go with vote yes on Prop
fifty to stop Donald Trump and just leave it at
that are they going to go anti Trump all the way?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Absolutely. Their polling shows that if you tap into the
hatred of Democrats for Trump, that you can motivate them
to the polls and motivate them to do something that
ordinarily they wouldn't want to do if they were just
thinking about what was at stake. And that's what they're
trying to do. They're trying to use hatred and use
emotion to get voters to do something bad for democracy.
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And so that's why we have to make sure that
we get the message out to voters and the No
on Prop fifty campaign we are working very hard. We're
asking people to join the fight. Go to Defendfair Elections
dot org. That's our campaign website, Defendfair Elections dot org.
We need to get the word out to voters that
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the politicians are going to lie to them on their ballot.
They should vote know on Prop fifty if they want
to make sure they defend the citizens Independent Redistricting Commission
and keep the politicians out of manipulating the lines of
election districts. So we need everyone to join Defend Fair
Elections dot org.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And what time today will we learn about the ballot
title develot the ballot language.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
So miss hasn't been reported in the media, but I'll
let you know your listeners. I was appointed by Newsom.
He didn't realize what he was getting to be the
official No on Prop. Fifty, the ballot argument manager for
our side. I found that out at five o'clock on Friday.
So we've been working all weekend throughout this week to
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make sure that we file our opposition statements that will
appear in the official ballot booklet. We filed our opposition
statement on Monday. This evening, we're going to file our
rebuttal to their proponent statement, and of course, at five
o'clock we will also get the Secretary of State transmitting
to us the official ballot title. We expect that that's
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going to be a false title, and we will be
meeting with our lawyers starting at six o'clock to determine
whether we take and file a lawsuit on this matter.
I suspect we will be in court by tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You mean that the governor assigns the person that's the
official opponent and the opponent the writer of the of
the opponent statement that was assigned to you.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like our side doesn't get I'm glad it's you. I'm
just saying that.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Under state law, the if a measure is put on
the ballot by the legislature, then one of the legislators
who voted no on the matter has to be selected
to manage the official arguments in opposition. And I'm fine
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doing the work. And we've been working to make sure
that we make a good case against Prop fifty. We
have good signers. I'm thrilled that we have a bipartisan
coalition that's been built. And these are not politicians. These
are people who care about our democracy, who want fairness,
who don't want politicians to manipulate lines. And so I
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think our arguments are strong. But the ballot title is false,
and we know what they're intending to do with the
ballot title. So we have to make sure that we
get the word out to voters, and I guess we'll
have to do that through a campaign. So we need
people's help that the website defend Fair Elections do. People
should sign up and chip in at that site.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
California State Assembly Member Carl Demile, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Always appreciate filling us up, getting us up to speed
on this.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's a moving Target.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
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Speaker 3 (08:23):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show.
The proposition will be called PROMP fifty. I suspect you're
gonna hear a lot about it on the radio, on television.
There's gonna be a lot of mail. We just talked
with California State Assembly Member Carl Demile. I have known
Carl for a long time, and this is among his superpowers.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Carl's good at some things. He has strengths, and there
are some things for which he is truly a superhero.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And communication, mass communication is one of his strengths. So
I am pleased that he has been assigned the manager
of the messaging of the opposition to Prop.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Fifty.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It is really true that the ballot titles that are
given to us by the Democrats when they are in
charge of the Secretary of State's office are so misleading.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you know this. When you get a like a.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
You use some organization to explain the ballot to you.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There are lots of organizations that will send out voter guides.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In fact, Carl Demiles organization Reformed California is among the
best in that it is absolutely clear and it is
completely honest. It's nonpartisan, but it is real language, like
normal talk about what.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's going to do.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Like there are times when I have voted for fee increases,
like toll roads, things like that. Like there are times
when I have actually taxed myself because the benefit of
the service outweighs the cost, even though I don't think
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I should be paying for toll roads in my own state.
If my state is refusing to widen the freeway, then
I will vote for an extension of Measure M, which
is a local sales tax to fund the toll road
er or fix roads locally.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right, Like, I'm okay with the language. If it is
a Democrat idea or a Republican idea, just be square.
And I noticed that when.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Citizens initiatives propositions are placed in front of voters in
California and they are clear, by and large, a majority
of Californians tend to be more fiscally conservative. We saw
that in the twenty twenty election. We saw that in
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the twenty twenty two election. Like there are, there is
a pretty strong track record of Californians when they are
able to get the information, and they're able to get
the information more clearly today than ever before. This is
one of those areas where social media does help educate
because the official line from the Democrat governor is so
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misleading and there's so many voices out there to correct
it that it becomes very clear that they're trying to
mislead you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And that's going to happen here in Prop fifty. I
think this will be the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Most dishonest delivery of an opportunity for the citizens to
vote on something, But there will be so many voices.
I mean, you want to run the political spectrum When
you have both California states asembly member Karl Demayo and
former Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger on the same page with
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a no, there's a lot of people in between. So
I think it's going to be a good fight and
one worth having. And if it doesn't go my way,
I'm I'm kind of up for that fight too.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I want to know on fifty, I don't think that
the politicians should be able to draw their own districts.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I think this is moving us in a very bad place.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But if we're going to go there, and if a
majority of Californians decide yeah, yeah, I hate Trump so
much that I am going to ruin California and ruin
the representation of my neighbor who is a fellow Californian
just happens to be a Republican.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I want to take away their right to.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Be represented by a representative in Congress that agrees with them.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Because I so hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
If that's the way a majority of the Californians, Republicans, Democrats,
and Independents go, then it's on.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Then. Let Texas do what it's.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Doing, Let Maryland do what it's doing, Let Indiana do
what it's doing. Let Iowa do what it's doing. And
that is strong red states. Jerrymander out the Democrats. And
if California wants to jerrymander out the Republicans, there fifty states.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Let's see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We have had wars, and we have had cold wars,
we have had a civil war in this country, and
we are now in the midst of a cold Civil war.
This is just yet another step in the Cold Civil War.
When you have actual governors who are supposed to be
beyond politics, right, that's what they always say. Once elected,
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you represent everybody in the state, Republican, Democrat, and independent.
That's what you always hear at the inaugural address, whether
it's Governor Gavitt or any other governor.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Once they get elected, they.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and they always assured
to you that you're going to be a governor for
all people.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm gonna be a governor for all Californians. And then
he's not.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's leading the effort to cheat on behalf of Democrats
in our state, denying Republican Californians the opportunity to be
represented by a Republican in Congress. So for the and
again this is inside baseball, so there's gonna have to
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be a lot of education that goes on here. So
let me give you a quick, just a quick thumbnail
sketch about how all this works. There are four hundred
and thirty five members of Congress. Right, they are assigned
by population. Each member of Congress represents about seven hundred
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and seventy thousand people. Roughly, and you try and divide
up the country among four hundred and thirty five sets
of seven hundred and seventy thousand people, and in California
we got about fifty two sets of seven hundred and
seventy thousand. Now, where that's called the congressional district. Now,
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how do you make that?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
What's the shape of that congressional district? Well, I mean,
there should be some rules to it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
It should be city whole, county whole, communities of interest
regions that makes sense, people that have common interests. It
should not include whether there are Republicans or Democrats in
the district. It should include whether or not there are
city dwellers, suburban heights, whether it's rural, whether it's farming,
whether it's inner city. Right, there's a lot of retired
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veterans there. There should be a VA hospital somewhere close by,
like those kinds of things. And there are also some
Civil Rights era requirements under the federal law.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay, so you draw the lines and you without.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Regard to registration of party, and you try and keep
city whole hole.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Kind of normal looking congressional districts.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And there you go, and we in California said, the
politicians can't do that because of course the politicians are
Republican's going to want to have more registered Republicans in that.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
District and a Democrat the same. So that's human nature.
So let's not let the politicians do it. Let's let
the citizens do it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Let it be independent, And that's what we did in
twenty ten, an independent citizens Commission to do it. Prop
fifty goes in the opposite direction and puts it in
the hands of the politicians who are in power, that
is Democrats who are going to make squiggly, crazy lines
that look like salamanders, which is where Jerry Mander comes from,
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Governor Gary of Massachusetts back in the eighteen hundreds. We're
going to make squiggly wiggly lines all weird looking shaped
districts so that they incorporate the most amount of registered Democrats,
so to give a Democrat candidate a better chance.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Of getting elected. That's what they're about. Absolutely outrageous. There
you go.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
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Speaker 3 (17:21):
John coblt All this week, good to have you along
with us. Prop fifty is on the way, which means
jerry mandering is on the way in California.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
You don't think it's right at California, It's probably not right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But what the hell.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Oils are we supposed to do to freak and try
to fight what's going on in Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So if you are concerned about what's going on in Texas,
then go to Texas and tell the people of Texas
what's going on is wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If you are concerned that President Trump might and the
Republican Party might hold the House of Representatives in the
upcoming midterm election, then you don't have to cheat, and
you don't have to call upon your Democrat members of
the state legislature to cheat. You can just campaign for
Democrats in Republican districts.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
You could keep the districts the same.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And use your energies to convince your fellow Californians that
you should not vote for a Republican. You should vote
for a Democrat to stop the Trump agenda, if that's
what you think, Like it's a citizen democracy, I mean,
we're in charge, Like why are you abdicating we the
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people and handing it over to the politicians. There are
eighty members of the California State Assembly and forty members
of the California State Senate. There are thirty nine million Californians.
So if you don't want Trump to have a Republican
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House of Representatives for the second two years of his term,
because you somehow think that is really important, and that's fine.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That's if I was a Democrat, I'd want to win
the I want to win control of the House too,
And as I've said, historically, it's likely that any Republican
president would lose.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
House seats to the opposite party.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So it's very likely that he that he might who knows,
it's a very different world because he's a two term president,
but there were two nonconsecutive terms, so many respects, this
is his first term all over again, and there really
isn't any historical reference to that. But be that as
it may. If you, as a Californian, want there to
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be a Democrat controlled House, of representatives in the upcoming
midterm election, which is four hundred and forty three days away.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So you got a goodly amount of time to go.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Talk to your fellow Californian and say, hey, I know
you're Trump supporter. I know you live in a congressional
district that's represented by a Republican where President Trump won
by ten percentage points and the Republican congressman was reelected
by sixty five percent of the vote.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But I want to talk with you.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I want to tell you that Trump is bad, Orange
Man bad, and.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You should vote for a Democrat. Like go have that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
They'll throw a beer at you, but at least you're
doing your job as a citizen.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Hey, lou you guys might not have been ten to
worry about. I was a Republican for twenty years of
my life. This past election, I stopped being Republican and
registered as an independent because I'm just tired of everybody's stupidness.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, I appreciate the call. I don't recommend you do that.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'm not a big fan of the whole independent thing.
Everybody likes to believe they're independent. I'm independent. I don't
take my marching orders from anybody.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like everybody likes to.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Say that it's very self aggrandizing, but this is politics
and you got to get in the game. Not a
huge fan of the no party preference. I don't believe
you when you tell me you have no party preference.
I frankly find that unbelievable. Clearly, there has to be
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a political philosophy that rules your personal constitution and the
way you view yourself in business with respect to government
has to be I mean, at the end of the day,
regardless of the issue at hand, regardless of the question
before you, you are either in favor of smaller government,
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smaller control over your life and your business, lower taxes,
a lower tax burden, more individual freedom, and more personal responsibility,
and are willing to suffer the consequences.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You either believe that in all matters, or you believe in.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
More government regulation over your life and your business. Bigger
government control, less freedom, higher taxes, less personal and responsibility,
and no consequences. In fact, you're the victim of some
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other thing, and you believe that in all matters concerning
your life and your business. You have to fall into
one of those two camps. Like most of the time. Now,
no political party defines you all day, every day. There
are Republicans that are social conservatives. There are Republicans that
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are fiscal conservatives. There are Republicans that are civil libertarians.
There are Democrats that are Catholic and pro life. There
are pro business Democrats. Now they're called moderate Democrats. It
used to be called blue collar Democrats. There are progressives
which are communists right. There are social Democrats socialists, which
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is in fact the Democrat party. Now there are absolute
maniacs out there on both sides.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
No political parties perfect, but one of the two of
them more closely reflects the way you think about the world.
And if you're not sure, you're not doing enough deep thinking,
and you need to do a little more self reflection.
Because it is up to you. It is we the people,
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it is citizen government. We're in charge. Remember, we don't
make the laws. We elect the lawmakers. So we got
to get in the game. So pick a team and
ride it to victory. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt
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Speaker 1 (24:18):
Good to have you along with us.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Coming up following the news at three, we'll talk with
Republican leader James Gallagher. He had a press conference today.
He introduced legislation, actually a resolution, in response to Sacramento's
attempt to jerrymander California's congressional map. This is to effectively
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create a new state, to split California into two states.
He calls it the two state solution, and we will
find out which state will be in. I gotta look
at the map. I think we're in the bad state.
I don't know if there's any plans for a Berlin
airlift from the good part of California to get us supplies.
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But it appears that the liberal crazy California will be
Los Angeles County and up the coast, and the Republican
votes will be mostly Inland. What's interesting is geographically speaking,
the good California is a lot bigger than the crazy California.
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There's been a couple of attempts to split California into
two states. There was an attempt about ten years ago
for California and Southern California. I remember because it was
not North California, in South California.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It wasn't gonna be like the dakotas well the Carolinas.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I don't know if this will be like the Virginia's
will be California and West California. I don't know if
they got that far, but they are looking at splitting
California again. Look, these are all signs now this will
be interesting. I don't know how serious Gallagher is. I
suspect he realizes there's probably a long way to go
before we split California into two. But he is the
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Republican leader, so the fact that he throws it out
there does matter. It means that there is significant dissatisfaction
with the way this state is run, and the state
is powerful. California is the nation's largest state by population.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It is the nation's.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Largest state as far as gross domestic product by far.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Like that's something I think that is notable.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Like, we're not just the largest GDP of all the
other forty nine states. We're way bigger than the second
largest GDP.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know, We're not just the most populous state.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We're way bigger than the second most populous state, so
California is somewhat of an anomaly when it comes to
the other forty nine states.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now that's good for us and bad for us.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's good for us because it's good to be the
number one in gross domestic product and gross and population,
but we're also number one on a lot of bad things,
right number one in homelessness, number one in taxes, number.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
One in crime, number one in illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So being on top has its privileges, but also some
of the negative side effects. It also it just kind
of throws off the other forty nine states and makes.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It very hard for us to work in a union.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Because California has way more representatives in the House of Representatives.
You know, we're losing them every ten years, and we're
set to lose I think they say three more congressional
seats in the next census in twenty thirty, So we'll
see if.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
California is brought down to size, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But the gross domestic product, the total output of goods
and services out of the state is still going to
be quite high, and we ought to be able to
use that to our advantage. I remember that used to
bother then Governor Schwarzenegger. Governor Schwarzenegger, I worked closely with
the administration. I was working in Congress at the time,
(28:21):
and there was some talk of my boss running for
lieutenant governor on the Schwarzenegger ticket. So we were close
to that team, and I just was in a lot
of conversations with the Schwarzenegger team and one of the
things that struck him, and it really ought to strike
every Californian in office, whether it's Republican or Democrat, we
(28:41):
really ought to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Rule DC.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Giving given our large s, whether it's Republican or Democrat,
there are still federal services that we don't get our
fair share up. We are, in fact a donor state.
That means you, whether you are Republican, Democrat, declined to
st a, whatever you are, Green Party, libertarian, vegetarian, whatever
(29:06):
you are, you're a Californian and you're also paying federal taxes.
Will you and I pay more in federal taxes than
we received back in federal services.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's not always the case. That's not the case in Texas,
it's not the case in Arizona. It's not the case.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I mean some of these states that have high profile
senators that are chairmen of major committees, they have really
good stuff. I remember at one point the Senate leader
in the United States Senate was from I think it
(29:41):
was South Dakota, one of the Dakota's I don't remember now.
But one of the benefits of being a Senate leader
and representing a small state like one of the two
Dakotas is you're able to funnel a whole lot of
federal dollars to your own infrastructure. So the roads and
off ramps in South Dakota were beautiful.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
For a number of years.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
The senior Senator and the junior Senator from Arizona, we're
in charge of the Transportation Committee, and you go to
Arizona and take a look at some of those off
ramps off of federal highways like the ten in really
good shape, constantly being improved. So that's just one example.
Right Like any federal highway is going to get federal dollars.
(30:27):
You have lawmakers that are powerful from your state, they're
able to bring home those kinds of federal dollars. In California,
we have every need there is, we have need for
federal highways we have infrastructure needs, we have needs for
veteran services, I mean everything up and down.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Right. So, but we don't have strong, powerful senators.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And while we had the Speaker of the House in
both parties, there was a time that whether or not
Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House or Kevin McCarthy
was Speaker of the House, Frankly, as a California federal
tax payer, you probably shouldn't care because either one was
good for you because you were a Californian. And at
(31:15):
the end of the day, they are going to write
legislation and carve up budgets that favor California. And it
wouldn't even have to favor California. Just give us our
fair share. We're a donor state, which means I think
the number is ninety three for we get back ninety
three cents for every dollar we send to the federal
government collectively as a state.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
In federal services.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So one of the things that then Governor Schwarzenegger was
aggravated about is how come when it cut like you
got I get it. It's the big political fight here
Republicans eight Democrats, Democrats hat Republicans up in Sacramento. I
get all that, and you guys can all hate each other,
but when you all leave California on airplanes out of
San Francisco and LAA in San Diego and Fresno, and
(32:02):
you all fly to Washington, DC when it comes to
federal stuff, because there is like this Veterans hospital isn't partisan.
So when it comes to federal appropriations, why don't y'
all get together and make sure that California gets its
fair share? And he even tried to organize retreats out
(32:23):
in Palm Springs to bring the congressional delegations together and
agree on those kinds of things. It was never able
to pull it off because the partisanship was too poisonous
to allow Californians Republicans and Democrats in Congress to work
together to not make us a donor state to the
federal government. So it's been broken for a while and
(32:47):
now the Republican leader, James Gallagher says it's too broke
to fix.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Let's just divorce. We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
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