September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (09/11) - Angela McGregor comes on the show to talk about the Ramada Homeless Project that has had $20 million dollars dumped into it with no results and no homeless people housed. More on the failure that is the Ramada Homeless Project. Are we on the verge of a tit for tat of political violence from both sides of the political aisle after the Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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We can at any time today have a press conference
coming out of Utah about the Charlie Kirk assassin. The
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head of the FBI, Cash Bettel, is flying back from Washington,
flying from Washington to Utah and presumably would be part
of the press conference. Headlines and these are just one
line graphics on cable news say there's rapid developments in
the case, but there's no details. One report from the
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Wall Street Journal indicated that they found the gun. The
rifle was, along with other evidence, was tossed in the
woods and unspent cartridges inside the rifle had engravings about
transgender and anti fascist ideology. And there isn't much more
than that. So we'll see. Maybe we're gonna have press
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conference during our show or maybe some time later. Keep
listening to KFI in the meantime until we get something new.
There are many other things going on as always, because
the government, the oppressive government here, never stops screwing you over.
And we're going to talk now with Angela McGregor. She's
a writer for the West Side Current and she's got
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an exclusive story about a particular homeless housing project. And
I remember when the idiot Mike Bonnen was my councilman.
This was a big deal. They wanted to convert a
ramata in about a mile from the Venice Pier into
permanent homeless housing. They have gotten almost twenty million dollars
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in grants, loans and donations, but there's been no construction.
And this whole project now covers five years and there's
nothing's been done. So where's the money? What's going on?
Let's got Angela McGregor from West Side Current. He Hi,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm good, Thank you, Thank you for having me anytime.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm so glad you have the time. Give us a
brief rundown the history of this thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, Well, in December of twenty twenty, the La City
Administrator's Office loaned shigned off on a five year zero
interest mortgage loan two Path Ventures for the purchase and
renovation of this ramata, which is, as you said, about
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a mile from the Venice Pier.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Path Ventures is the name of this nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Path Ventures is kind of the real estate arm of
PATH which stands for People Assisting the Homeless, and they
have a pretty massive real estate portfolio and this is
one of those projects. They borrowed eleven million dollars the
purchase prices nine and a half. The rest of it
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was to go to renovate it into transitional housing for
the homeless. They didn't inform the community in any way,
shape or form that they were doing this, and in fact,
Tracy Park got wind of it when she was kind
of walking down her street and bumped into a contractor
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she knew who told her what was going on there,
and she pulled the community together, her neighbors together to
try to, you know, get this project slowed down or
shut down because they didn't notice. They're suppose, legally, they're
supposed to notice if there's a change of use. They
never did that. That didn't go forward, but she did.
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They also tried to get a community ben fits agreement
with the VNC to at least assure the residents that
there would be no registered sex offenders or violent felons
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Could not get an agreement on that.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
No, they couldn't get an agreement on that three blocks
from two different elementary schools. And the reason I found
this out later when I got the mortgage documents. The
mortgage stipulated that it be a low barrier entry facility.
In other words, they couldn't because of the mortgage. They
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couldn't even screen anyone to live there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wait, wait, they couldn't keep anybody out. That was part
of the terms of the mortgage. So they couldn't discriminate
against sex offenders or violent felons, right.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And they couldn't mandate sobriety. They couldn't do any of that.
They didn't tell the residents that. They just didn't adopt
the CBA that the VNC had tried to house, and
so these people moved in. There were two overdose deaths
and a registered sex offender living there at one point
was there and this was when it was temporary housing.
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It was temporary house for about fourteen months, right, And
it's got one and a half million bucks from LAWH
to operated temporary housing for the fourteen months another two
and a half million.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Is this a residential neighborhood? You said, it's it's not
far from a couple of schools. It's a residential neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It backs up to backs up to this, yeah, to
the President's Row area of Venice. It's a beautiful little neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh so they.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Have drug addicts overdosing. They have a sex offender in
there totally, and they're getting they have got like twenty
million dollars in tax money and donations.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, this is this is here's the deal. So they
had bond and I had to an interview there with
the Nation. They headline something like Mike Bonnen put his
political career on the line for this homeless housing facility.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And he was there.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
He was the hobnobbing with the residents and sharing stories
about being a recovering addict. And they get to this
glowing profile of him, and within a few months of
that interview being published October twenty twenty two, it shut down.
They kicked everybody out and it's been vacant ever since.
And their excuse for doing that was that they were
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going to move forward with converting it because these are
project homekey funds that they're using converting it into permanent
supportive housing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's county, that's county text twenty LA County houses project Okay, yeah, Project.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Home Key they also got in twenty twenty four and
may have twenty twenty three million dollar hud grand to
convert the product they got. I think the Hilton Foundation
gave them a half a million bucks. I mean, this
is all in the last few years, and yet with
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all this money coming in, there's still nothing going on there.
They told us back in May of twenty twenty four,
they told the Current that they were going to get
started building it right away, and Crickets and Tracy Park
filed a motion at city and the city council approved it,
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and the motion was essentially to the city administrator's office saying,
I want to report on what the hell is going
on with this project, like why has no work been done?
Why is nothing happening home Key. If you recall, was
this program where they would buy up these underutilizeds during
the pandemic. They would buy up these underutilized motels and oh,
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by the way, this particular motel was actually pretty popular
when it was open. Its family friendly, mid price close
to the beach. We're going to buy up these motels
and hotels that were underutilized, convert them quick and ease
you know, into housing for the homeless, and the idea
was that it was going to be quick and it
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was going to be cost effective and nothing. So I
reached out to the City Administrator's office and said, well,
what happened to that report? They said, well, we're going
to issue it after the budget comes out. Well, the
budget came out and there was nothing. So I filed
what's called a California Public Records Act request for all
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of the correspondence between them and the people who owned
the Ramata, the former Ramata, the Path Ventures. And that
took a while and I got fifty six documents totaling
several hundred pages.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It was a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And within that, I think the most interesting part was
an email back and forth between the CEO and Path
Ventures that read to me almost like a hostage debate,
like the CEO saying, the Path Ventures, what's going on?
Can you get started? And then Path entures time and
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time again coming back to them and saying we need
more money.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well where did the first twenty million dollars go? And
then the CEO is the City Administrator's office.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Twenty twenty four it was actually it was actually fourteen
million dollars, but now they're saying that's not going to
do it. We need another with CEO says we'll have
that some retroactive HHH funding in a million and a half.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Where's the money?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, good question. And now they're saying, well that's not enough.
They want water meters. So they get them a grant
from another not for profit. It's a construction loan another
million two and.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
This doesn't smell good.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right. As of recently, they've they've accumulated nineteen and a
half million dollars. Over nineteen and a half million dollars
in all of this funding, the HUD funding. They also
told the CEO, well, we're worried the HUD funding is
going to get clawed back. So what the CEO told
us was they've spent the HUD funding to quote unquote
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maintain the property. This was the federal twenty five grand
a month.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
All right, Angela, I'm going to have to go. This
is just another atrocity here. It's almost twenty million dollars.
The site's been vacant since October of twenty twenty two.
Nothing's been built. Path Ventures is the name of this
nonprofit that's supposed to have had it finished. It should
have been done in the summertime of this year, and
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they're they're at square one still.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, all right, now they're saying it won't it won't
open until summer next year.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'd just like to know what account maybe the accounts
in the Bahamas, maybe Cayan.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Island or Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Their employees a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I'd like to look at an employee salary list.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, thank you, Angela. When you find out more,
let us know.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I will thank you for calling.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
All right, Angela McGregor from Westside Current dot com. The
corruption in the homeless nonprofit industry in La County is unending.
It is so massive they should all be shut down
and investigated by the federal government. I'm blumping in everybody together.
You're guilty until proven innocent. This is just this is
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just too much. And there's a thousand of these stories.
Got more coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
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o'clock hour coming up after three point thirty. You know,
I have a problem doing like fake happy talk or
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inspirational talk. I mean, this is like, this is my
dad's side here. Because of the Charlie Kirk tragedy, there's
a lot of people going in television and they're saying
about how we all need to come together and we
need to stop this, and we need to it's not
going to stop. All this hopeful talk is really absurd.
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That's not what human nature is. There's never been a
time when we've all been united. There's never been a
time where we all got along politically. It just doesn't exist.
In fact, I read a piece today and I'm going
to talk about it coming up, and this researcher makes
a good argument that we may be at the beginning
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of a long running spasm of political violence, because this
happens periodically in our society and everyone else's. It's just
the way we're designed, and it may be tit for
tat on both sides, and it doesn't stop until something
truly heinous happens, maybe more heinous than what happened to
Charlie Kirk. And you know that's just embedded in our DNA.
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I am not an optimist about the human race. I
don't have that gene in me. So we're gonna talk
about that coming up, because I just I don't see
this idea that we're all going to sit down and
work out our differences peacefully. I'm glad that Charlie Kirk
was trying, but I think that crazy people are unreachable.
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Whoever shot him was completely unreachable, and it doesn't matter
who wants to sit down and talk with him. Unless
you have the views that crazy guy has, then he's
gonna impulse to kill you. And that's why the crazy
people ought to be rounded up at the first sign
that they're this violent and this insane, and you lock
them up and you never let them out again. But
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that's just me. I want to follow up just for
a moment on we just had. We just had Angela
McGregor on from Westside Current dot com and they she
did a good investigation on how Path Ventures and Path
Ventures is one of these huge homeless nonprofits and they
have a lot of real estate they've bought up and
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they get a lot of grants, a lot of tax money,
a lot of interest, three loans, and they have gotten
about twenty million dollars to build a homeless housing project
in Venice, a former Ramonta in and after about five
years and twenty million, nothing's been built. That is a racket,
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that nonprofit homeless racket. And so now you just have
this blighted, old empty building sitting in a residential area.
And all this blight, all the vagrants, all the crime,
all the businesses that have gone out of business because
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of the homelessness and the crime and the stupid COVID
shutdown are really costing all these progressive cities a lot
of money. Let me tell you something that's just shocking
US retailers, and this is according to Ted Jenkin with
Fox News, US retailers lost in twenty twenty two one
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hundred and twelve billion dollars because of theft. One hundred
and twelve billion. You know how much that is. That's
bigger than the GDP of Costa Rica or Croatia. It
is bigger than the GDP of medium sized countries. That's
how much just the retail sector lost because of thieves,
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largely in big cities, stealing stuff. And there was a
huge increase and according to another study done by the
National Retail Federation Retailers reported a ninety three percent increase
in the number of shoplifting incidents in twenty twenty three
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compared to twenty nineteen, and a ninety percent increase in
dollar loss same thing over a four year period. Ninety
three percent more shoplifting incidents, ninety percent more money stolen,
and target alone projects a half a billion dollars in
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losses this year because of organized retail crime, much of
it in places like San Francisco, Portland, and New York.
Walgreens closed dozens of stories in San Francisco, Nordstrom pulled out.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We've got a lot of this in La as well.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And you know in San Francisco now commercial vacancies thirty
five percent thirty five percent of commercial space vacant in
downtown San Francisco, all because the Progressives pledged a legiance,
pledged allegiance to drug addicts, mental patients, homeless people, and criminals.
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So they took over the place, and over a third
of the businesses fled, and now San Francisco is short
of tax revenue. Oh, Santa Monica the other day basically
declaring themselves bankrupt. Same thing, they drove out so many
businesses now they're saying, Wow, you know we're broke here,
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we're short of a lot of tax revenue.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, what did you think was going to happen all
right when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I I don't think anything is going to get better.
All the call for unity, I don't think they're going
to have any effect after the Charlie Kirk killing.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm gonna read you a little bit from a researcher
who gave an interview in Politico today, and yeah, I
just you know, I can't fake it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Some guys can do it. You're so negative.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
See that's the thing. That's what people going being negative,
aren't you? Why don't we be hopeful? That's like fake hope.
What does that give you?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, I mean, you can fake it till you.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Make it, fake it until I'm actually hopeful. Yeah, I'll
be dead by then.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We're on the radio here from one till four and
also streaming, and you should if you just joined in
the show. Middle of the first hour, one thirty hour
one on the podcast, we talked to Charlie Kirk's pastor
and his inspiration for melding religion with his political message.
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Pastor Rob McCoy. He's based locally here at God Speak
Calvary Chapel in newbury Park. We spoke with him from
Arizona where he was with the Kirk family, and that'll
be on the podcast posted after four o'clock. All right,
So I was saying, so with something like this happens,
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you know, people have their responses, but one thing you
hear repeatedly is like, well, you know this has to stop.
It's like, okay, we have to settle our differences by
talking to each other, by having conversations.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's a good idea. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We have to be tolerant of each other's point of view.
We can't settle this with finlence. I said, I know that,
you know that, But the guy standing on the roof
with rifle, he's not listening to your message and there's
no way to get to him. Okay, now he's on
his bullet casings or the Cartridges authority said they found
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engravings with anti fascist, idiot and transgender ideology. So it
was some kind of message like the killer in New
York of a healthcare executive he put anti insurance company
messages on his bullets.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, you can't talk to those people.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So I appreciate everybody has to go on television and
they want you to fill three or five minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But why doesn't I didn't hear anybody say the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The people who should be listening to this message and
changing their behavior or their outlook on life are not
going to because they're up on the roof loading the
rifle and they're not interested in your message. I guess
it makes people feel good. Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh.
I mean, everybody's got to do what they do to
get through a bad situation.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But well, what are they supposed to say? You know,
there's there's nothing we can do. It's gonna lead to chaos.
We're gonna have more assassinations. This is just the way
things are. And just be prepared for just assassinations, and
you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's what we should say. Well that may be true, though.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The thing is, what I know is the guy on
the roof is not going to be listening to your.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Pleas for civil discourse.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
See, he's more likely, you know, to do this again
if he gets away. There is a guy and I
this particular piece I read in political magazine, I'd already
frequently thought this way. But there's a guy named William Bernstein.
He's a neurologist, and he wrote a book called The
Delusion of Crowds. I haven't read it, but I'm going
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to The Delusion of Crowds about the consequences of mass
hysteria in history. Now, we've had a lot of mass
hysteria over the last ten years. We had George Floyd
mass hysteria. We had COVID mass hysteria, we had Trump
mass hysteria. Climate change me too, and there's probably five
or ten more.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But I think you got the point.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And he says, you expect waves of political violence to continue. Eventually,
it'll stop, but maybe not until we reach a terrible episode,
more terrible than what happened to Charlie Kirk yesterday. And finally,
that's a tipping point. And he bases his belief on
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a lot of research. A lot of people have a
mindset where they look at the world as made up
of in groups and outgroups. It's called binary thinking. He says,
it's extremely widespread, extremely pervasive. You know, for example, you're
a conservative and the liberals or the progressives, Well, they're
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the outgroup, and if you're a progressive, you've got the
reverse view. The conservatives are the outgroup, and they think
it's actually genetically determined because they've looked at twins. And
it turns out if one twin has this way of
binary thinking where he looks at the world as in
groups and out groups, so does the other twin. And
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he said, now you have online communities, social media communities
that form around certain issues, and.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All the people with that mindset get together.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Now you have a large group, he goes, and this
has probably always been true in human nature, but now
online connections can make these groups much larger, larger, and
they feed into each other's insanity and paranoia. And he said,
here's the way it can work. If you have a
bunch of people in the room. Let's say they're talking
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about abortion. And let's say there's a median position on
abortion right in the middle, and there are people who
are at zero absolute anti abortion, there's people at ten
rapidly pro abortion, and maybe you have some people in
the middle right at a five or six. Well, guess what,
over time, if they're with these people long enough, the
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way you'd be with them online, you will drift towards
one extreme or the other because you want to be
part of a group. You want to be with the
cool kids. He goes, and this is what happens, and
they get sucked in. They make more and more extreme
statements again online they get more approval from their new friends.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You don't turn.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Anybody on with the milk toast, middle of the road opinion.
People get turned on by somebody sticking out the extreme.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He said.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This happened during during COVID with the vaccines started out
with he said, moms thinking, well should I get my
kids vaccinated? You know, I have some concerns. I want
to talk about this being formed and it turned in
you know, how vile people got to each other over
whether they believed in mandatory.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Vaccines or not. He says, this, this will end up,
and he compares.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To this the late nineteen well, the nineteen sixties, when
you know John Kennedy was assassinated, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
and he said it just stopped after that. There was
a lot of street violence, a lot of rioting.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It just stopped.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And he doesn't know for sure, but he suspects people
just get exhausted. It calls them cathartic cataclysms, a cathartic
turning point, looks like an awful piece of mass violence.
This happens in civil wars, This happens like in Northern Ireland.
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And he says, yeah, it's the nineteen sixties because it
wasn't just the assassinations, it was the street violence. And
then things calm down. He says, people get bored. You know,
another violent day of rioting, another violent day where somebody
gets going. Oh yeah, same old thing that happened Friday.
And then they stopped for a while, and then years
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go by and they start up again. And if you
look at the history of the human race, not just
here but everywhere else, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
True we're wired that way.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But now we have the added overstimulation obsession with being online,
being part of these social media groups, and everybody feeds
into each other's insanity.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So that's why I can't do the happy dance. It's okay,
like you the way you are, This is the way
I live now. When we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
We've talked some about that those cartridges they found with
the transgender message on it in the rifle of the killer.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I want to play you a clip of what.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Just one example of what Charlie Kirk, How Charlie Kirk
dealt with transgenderism and a real transgender person who was
a guy with a mustache and wearing a pink dress
at one of his appearances, and you can hear the
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's next.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We don't have any further information yet on the new find.
The Wall Street Journal reported that they know the rifle
that was used to kill Charlie Kirk was found in
the woods, and they found some unspent cartridges in the
rifle and they had engravings and about transgender and anti
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fascist ideo ideology statements.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Don't know exactly what it said. I did see a clip.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Of him, Charlie Kirk talking to a transgender now it
was at one of his events and this person came
up and he was a young guy, kind of chunky, bobbery,
wearing dark roomed glasses, longish hair and had a bit
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of a beard stubble, and wearing a pink dress with
like frilly white lace around the edges of the dress
and he confronted Charlie Kirk about Charlie's views play this clip.
You're part of the problem, I think with the hatred
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on trans people.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's really not that deep.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Like, if someone wants to dress up however they want,
that's totally fine.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Okay, So I think I'm not You're not preventing you
from dressing Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, However, let.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Me ask you a question. I will brush this out.
So let's pretend you say you are a woman. Yeah,
I know you are a man, but I refuse to
call you a woman. Okay, who's the hateful one?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I would say you are? I mean, you're going to.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Me and shame me, not a second man, I'm the
hateful one.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really just like common courtesy.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
It is never the common courtesy to lie. You do
not become a thing just because you say it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You are the thing. Guess what.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Nobody in the history of the species that was born
xx or born x y and transition is able to
change their chromosomes. Every one of your cells is coded
either xx or xy. But then it is an insult
to women everywhere in this audience and across the country
that's saying that you could just have wear makeup and
dress like a woman, undergo surgery that you magically become
a woman, and it is the abolition of women and
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is the abolition of reality. And we see great, unjust
human suffering because of it.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And it's having an opinion like that that may have
gotten him killed. And he is correct. Excess chromosomes indicate
female biological sex and x y chromosomes indicate a male
biological sex.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And he's right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Doesn't matter if you put on a pretty pink dress
with white frilly lace, that doesn't make you a woman.
It doesn't change your chromosomes male female characteristics. That's biology.
That's what you were born with. And every cell in
your body as xx chromosomes if you're female, and x
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y chromosomes if you're male. There's no other way it
can be. Now, you can call yourself anything you want,
and you can dress any way you want, but to
try to force people to say, oh, you're a woman, Oh,
some people aren't going to do that. Charlie Kirk was
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one of them, and those thoughts may have gotten him killed.
If we go by the engravings on one of the bullets,
according to the reports we hear this morning, we'll see
we'll see where that goes when we come back after
three o'clock. I know we're doing something good. Somebody clue
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me in, Oh geez's wrong with me? Well, there's a lot.
Michael msche USC Professor Newsom is really really scrambling now
because we've got eight dollars gas looming in our future.
He knows it. He's frantically trying to react to it,
and we're going to talk about it when we come back.
It's almost funny. Debra Mark Live in the CAFI twenty
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We can at any time today have a press conference
coming out of Utah about the Charlie Kirk assassin. The
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head of the FBI, Cash Bettel, is flying back from Washington,
flying from Washington to Utah and presumably would be part
of the press conference. Headlines and these are just one
line graphics on cable news say there's rapid developments in
the case, but there's no details. One report from the
(00:44):
Wall Street Journal indicated that they found the gun. The
rifle was, along with other evidence, was tossed in the
woods and unspent cartridges inside the rifle had engravings about
transgender and anti fascist ideology. And there isn't much more
than that. So we'll see. Maybe we're gonna have press
(01:07):
conference during our show or maybe some time later. Keep
listening to KFI in the meantime until we get something new.
There are many other things going on as always, because
the government, the oppressive government here, never stops screwing you over.
And we're going to talk now with Angela McGregor. She's
a writer for the West Side Current and she's got
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an exclusive story about a particular homeless housing project. And
I remember when the idiot Mike Bonnen was my councilman.
This was a big deal. They wanted to convert a
ramata in about a mile from the Venice Pier into
permanent homeless housing. They have gotten almost twenty million dollars
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in grants, loans and donations, but there's been no construction.
And this whole project now covers five years and there's
nothing's been done. So where's the money? What's going on?
Let's got Angela McGregor from West Side Current. He Hi,
how are you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm good, Thank you, Thank you for having me anytime.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm so glad you have the time. Give us a
brief rundown the history of this thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, Well, in December of twenty twenty, the La City
Administrator's Office loaned shigned off on a five year zero
interest mortgage loan two Path Ventures for the purchase and
renovation of this ramata, which is, as you said, about
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a mile from the Venice Pier.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Path Ventures is the name of this nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Path Ventures is kind of the real estate arm of
PATH which stands for People Assisting the Homeless, and they
have a pretty massive real estate portfolio and this is
one of those projects. They borrowed eleven million dollars the
purchase prices nine and a half. The rest of it
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was to go to renovate it into transitional housing for
the homeless. They didn't inform the community in any way,
shape or form that they were doing this, and in fact,
Tracy Park got wind of it when she was kind
of walking down her street and bumped into a contractor
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she knew who told her what was going on there,
and she pulled the community together, her neighbors together to
try to, you know, get this project slowed down or
shut down because they didn't notice. They're suppose, legally, they're
supposed to notice if there's a change of use. They
never did that. That didn't go forward, but she did.
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They also tried to get a community ben fits agreement
with the VNC to at least assure the residents that
there would be no registered sex offenders or violent felons
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Could not get an agreement on that.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
No, they couldn't get an agreement on that three blocks
from two different elementary schools. And the reason I found
this out later when I got the mortgage documents. The
mortgage stipulated that it be a low barrier entry facility.
In other words, they couldn't because of the mortgage. They
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couldn't even screen anyone to live there.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wait, wait, they couldn't keep anybody out. That was part
of the terms of the mortgage. So they couldn't discriminate
against sex offenders or violent felons, right.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And they couldn't mandate sobriety. They couldn't do any of that.
They didn't tell the residents that. They just didn't adopt
the CBA that the VNC had tried to house, and
so these people moved in. There were two overdose deaths
and a registered sex offender living there at one point
was there and this was when it was temporary housing.
(05:11):
It was temporary house for about fourteen months, right, And
it's got one and a half million bucks from LAWH
to operated temporary housing for the fourteen months another two
and a half million.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Is this a residential neighborhood? You said, it's it's not
far from a couple of schools. It's a residential neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It backs up to backs up to this, yeah, to
the President's Row area of Venice. It's a beautiful little neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh so they.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Have drug addicts overdosing. They have a sex offender in
there totally, and they're getting they have got like twenty
million dollars in tax money and donations.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, this is this is here's the deal. So they
had bond and I had to an interview there with
the Nation. They headline something like Mike Bonnen put his
political career on the line for this homeless housing facility.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And he was there.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
He was the hobnobbing with the residents and sharing stories
about being a recovering addict. And they get to this
glowing profile of him, and within a few months of
that interview being published October twenty twenty two, it shut down.
They kicked everybody out and it's been vacant ever since.
And their excuse for doing that was that they were
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going to move forward with converting it because these are
project homekey funds that they're using converting it into permanent
supportive housing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's county, that's county text twenty LA County houses project Okay, yeah, Project.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Home Key they also got in twenty twenty four and
may have twenty twenty three million dollar hud grand to
convert the product they got. I think the Hilton Foundation
gave them a half a million bucks. I mean, this
is all in the last few years, and yet with
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all this money coming in, there's still nothing going on there.
They told us back in May of twenty twenty four,
they told the Current that they were going to get
started building it right away, and Crickets and Tracy Park
filed a motion at city and the city council approved it,
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and the motion was essentially to the city administrator's office saying,
I want to report on what the hell is going
on with this project, like why has no work been done?
Why is nothing happening home Key. If you recall, was
this program where they would buy up these underutilizeds during
the pandemic. They would buy up these underutilized motels and oh,
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by the way, this particular motel was actually pretty popular
when it was open. Its family friendly, mid price close
to the beach. We're going to buy up these motels
and hotels that were underutilized, convert them quick and ease
you know, into housing for the homeless, and the idea
was that it was going to be quick and it
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was going to be cost effective and nothing. So I
reached out to the City Administrator's office and said, well,
what happened to that report? They said, well, we're going
to issue it after the budget comes out. Well, the
budget came out and there was nothing. So I filed
what's called a California Public Records Act request for all
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of the correspondence between them and the people who owned
the Ramata, the former Ramata, the Path Ventures. And that
took a while and I got fifty six documents totaling
several hundred pages.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It was a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And within that, I think the most interesting part was
an email back and forth between the CEO and Path
Ventures that read to me almost like a hostage debate,
like the CEO saying, the Path Ventures, what's going on?
Can you get started? And then Path entures time and
(09:15):
time again coming back to them and saying we need
more money.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well where did the first twenty million dollars go? And
then the CEO is the City Administrator's office.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Twenty twenty four it was actually it was actually fourteen
million dollars, but now they're saying that's not going to
do it. We need another with CEO says we'll have
that some retroactive HHH funding in a million and a half.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Where's the money?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, good question. And now they're saying, well that's not enough.
They want water meters. So they get them a grant
from another not for profit. It's a construction loan another
million two and.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
This doesn't smell good.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right. As of recently, they've they've accumulated nineteen and a
half million dollars. Over nineteen and a half million dollars
in all of this funding, the HUD funding. They also
told the CEO, well, we're worried the HUD funding is
going to get clawed back. So what the CEO told
us was they've spent the HUD funding to quote unquote
(10:24):
maintain the property. This was the federal twenty five grand
a month.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
All right, Angela, I'm going to have to go. This
is just another atrocity here. It's almost twenty million dollars.
The site's been vacant since October of twenty twenty two.
Nothing's been built. Path Ventures is the name of this
nonprofit that's supposed to have had it finished. It should
have been done in the summertime of this year, and
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they're they're at square one still.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, all right, now they're saying it won't it won't
open until summer next year.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'd just like to know what account maybe the accounts
in the Bahamas, maybe Cayan.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Island or Switzerland.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Their employees a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, I'd like to look at an employee salary list.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, thank you, Angela. When you find out more,
let us know.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I will thank you for calling.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
All right, Angela McGregor from Westside Current dot com. The
corruption in the homeless nonprofit industry in La County is unending.
It is so massive they should all be shut down
and investigated by the federal government. I'm blumping in everybody together.
You're guilty until proven innocent. This is just this is
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just too much. And there's a thousand of these stories.
Got more coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
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iheartradiop and Moistline Day is Tomorrow, Friday. In the three
o'clock hour coming up after three point thirty. You know,
I have a problem doing like fake happy talk or
(12:15):
inspirational talk. I mean, this is like, this is my
dad's side here. Because of the Charlie Kirk tragedy, there's
a lot of people going in television and they're saying
about how we all need to come together and we
need to stop this, and we need to it's not
going to stop. All this hopeful talk is really absurd.
(12:40):
That's not what human nature is. There's never been a
time when we've all been united. There's never been a
time where we all got along politically. It just doesn't exist.
In fact, I read a piece today and I'm going
to talk about it coming up, and this researcher makes
a good argument that we may be at the beginning
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of a long running spasm of political violence, because this
happens periodically in our society and everyone else's. It's just
the way we're designed, and it may be tit for
tat on both sides, and it doesn't stop until something
truly heinous happens, maybe more heinous than what happened to
Charlie Kirk. And you know that's just embedded in our DNA.
(13:25):
I am not an optimist about the human race. I
don't have that gene in me. So we're gonna talk
about that coming up, because I just I don't see
this idea that we're all going to sit down and
work out our differences peacefully. I'm glad that Charlie Kirk
was trying, but I think that crazy people are unreachable.
(13:50):
Whoever shot him was completely unreachable, and it doesn't matter
who wants to sit down and talk with him. Unless
you have the views that crazy guy has, then he's
gonna impulse to kill you. And that's why the crazy
people ought to be rounded up at the first sign
that they're this violent and this insane, and you lock
them up and you never let them out again. But
(14:12):
that's just me. I want to follow up just for
a moment on we just had. We just had Angela
McGregor on from Westside Current dot com and they she
did a good investigation on how Path Ventures and Path
Ventures is one of these huge homeless nonprofits and they
have a lot of real estate they've bought up and
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they get a lot of grants, a lot of tax money,
a lot of interest, three loans, and they have gotten
about twenty million dollars to build a homeless housing project
in Venice, a former Ramonta in and after about five
years and twenty million, nothing's been built. That is a racket,
(14:54):
that nonprofit homeless racket. And so now you just have
this blighted, old empty building sitting in a residential area.
And all this blight, all the vagrants, all the crime,
all the businesses that have gone out of business because
(15:14):
of the homelessness and the crime and the stupid COVID
shutdown are really costing all these progressive cities a lot
of money. Let me tell you something that's just shocking
US retailers, and this is according to Ted Jenkin with
Fox News, US retailers lost in twenty twenty two one
(15:37):
hundred and twelve billion dollars because of theft. One hundred
and twelve billion. You know how much that is. That's
bigger than the GDP of Costa Rica or Croatia. It
is bigger than the GDP of medium sized countries. That's
how much just the retail sector lost because of thieves,
(15:59):
largely in big cities, stealing stuff. And there was a
huge increase and according to another study done by the
National Retail Federation Retailers reported a ninety three percent increase
in the number of shoplifting incidents in twenty twenty three
(16:20):
compared to twenty nineteen, and a ninety percent increase in
dollar loss same thing over a four year period. Ninety
three percent more shoplifting incidents, ninety percent more money stolen,
and target alone projects a half a billion dollars in
(16:43):
losses this year because of organized retail crime, much of
it in places like San Francisco, Portland, and New York.
Walgreens closed dozens of stories in San Francisco, Nordstrom pulled out.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We've got a lot of this in La as well.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And you know in San Francisco now commercial vacancies thirty
five percent thirty five percent of commercial space vacant in
downtown San Francisco, all because the Progressives pledged a legiance,
pledged allegiance to drug addicts, mental patients, homeless people, and criminals.
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So they took over the place, and over a third
of the businesses fled, and now San Francisco is short
of tax revenue. Oh, Santa Monica the other day basically
declaring themselves bankrupt. Same thing, they drove out so many
businesses now they're saying, Wow, you know we're broke here,
(17:42):
we're short of a lot of tax revenue.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, what did you think was going to happen all
right when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I I don't think anything is going to get better.
All the call for unity, I don't think they're going
to have any effect after the Charlie Kirk killing.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm gonna read you a little bit from a researcher
who gave an interview in Politico today, and yeah, I
just you know, I can't fake it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Some guys can do it. You're so negative.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
See that's the thing. That's what people going being negative,
aren't you? Why don't we be hopeful? That's like fake hope.
What does that give you?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Well, I mean, you can fake it till you.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Make it, fake it until I'm actually hopeful. Yeah, I'll
be dead by then.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
We're on the radio here from one till four and
also streaming, and you should if you just joined in
the show. Middle of the first hour, one thirty hour
one on the podcast, we talked to Charlie Kirk's pastor
and his inspiration for melding religion with his political message.
(18:58):
Pastor Rob McCoy. He's based locally here at God Speak
Calvary Chapel in newbury Park. We spoke with him from
Arizona where he was with the Kirk family, and that'll
be on the podcast posted after four o'clock. All right,
So I was saying, so with something like this happens,
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you know, people have their responses, but one thing you
hear repeatedly is like, well, you know this has to stop.
It's like, okay, we have to settle our differences by
talking to each other, by having conversations.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's a good idea. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We have to be tolerant of each other's point of view.
We can't settle this with finlence. I said, I know that,
you know that, But the guy standing on the roof
with rifle, he's not listening to your message and there's
no way to get to him. Okay, now he's on
his bullet casings or the Cartridges authority said they found
(19:57):
engravings with anti fascist, idiot and transgender ideology. So it
was some kind of message like the killer in New
York of a healthcare executive he put anti insurance company
messages on his bullets.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, you can't talk to those people.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So I appreciate everybody has to go on television and
they want you to fill three or five minutes.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But why doesn't I didn't hear anybody say the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
The people who should be listening to this message and
changing their behavior or their outlook on life are not
going to because they're up on the roof loading the
rifle and they're not interested in your message. I guess
it makes people feel good. Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh.
I mean, everybody's got to do what they do to
get through a bad situation.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But well, what are they supposed to say? You know,
there's there's nothing we can do. It's gonna lead to chaos.
We're gonna have more assassinations. This is just the way
things are. And just be prepared for just assassinations, and
you got it.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's what we should say. Well that may be true, though.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The thing is, what I know is the guy on
the roof is not going to be listening to your.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Pleas for civil discourse.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
See, he's more likely, you know, to do this again
if he gets away. There is a guy and I
this particular piece I read in political magazine, I'd already
frequently thought this way. But there's a guy named William Bernstein.
He's a neurologist, and he wrote a book called The
Delusion of Crowds. I haven't read it, but I'm going
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to The Delusion of Crowds about the consequences of mass
hysteria in history. Now, we've had a lot of mass
hysteria over the last ten years. We had George Floyd
mass hysteria. We had COVID mass hysteria, we had Trump
mass hysteria. Climate change me too, and there's probably five
or ten more.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
But I think you got the point.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And he says, you expect waves of political violence to continue. Eventually,
it'll stop, but maybe not until we reach a terrible episode,
more terrible than what happened to Charlie Kirk yesterday. And finally,
that's a tipping point. And he bases his belief on
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a lot of research. A lot of people have a
mindset where they look at the world as made up
of in groups and outgroups. It's called binary thinking. He says,
it's extremely widespread, extremely pervasive. You know, for example, you're
a conservative and the liberals or the progressives, Well, they're
(22:43):
the outgroup, and if you're a progressive, you've got the
reverse view. The conservatives are the outgroup, and they think
it's actually genetically determined because they've looked at twins. And
it turns out if one twin has this way of
binary thinking where he looks at the world as in
groups and out groups, so does the other twin. And
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he said, now you have online communities, social media communities
that form around certain issues, and.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All the people with that mindset get together.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Now you have a large group, he goes, and this
has probably always been true in human nature, but now
online connections can make these groups much larger, larger, and
they feed into each other's insanity and paranoia. And he said,
here's the way it can work. If you have a
bunch of people in the room. Let's say they're talking
(23:37):
about abortion. And let's say there's a median position on
abortion right in the middle, and there are people who
are at zero absolute anti abortion, there's people at ten
rapidly pro abortion, and maybe you have some people in
the middle right at a five or six. Well, guess what,
over time, if they're with these people long enough, the
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way you'd be with them online, you will drift towards
one extreme or the other because you want to be
part of a group. You want to be with the
cool kids. He goes, and this is what happens, and
they get sucked in. They make more and more extreme
statements again online they get more approval from their new friends.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You don't turn.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Anybody on with the milk toast, middle of the road opinion.
People get turned on by somebody sticking out the extreme.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
He said.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This happened during during COVID with the vaccines started out
with he said, moms thinking, well should I get my
kids vaccinated? You know, I have some concerns. I want
to talk about this being formed and it turned in
you know, how vile people got to each other over
whether they believed in mandatory.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Vaccines or not. He says, this, this will end up,
and he compares.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To this the late nineteen well, the nineteen sixties, when
you know John Kennedy was assassinated, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
and he said it just stopped after that. There was
a lot of street violence, a lot of rioting.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
It just stopped.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And he doesn't know for sure, but he suspects people
just get exhausted. It calls them cathartic cataclysms, a cathartic
turning point, looks like an awful piece of mass violence.
This happens in civil wars, This happens like in Northern Ireland.
(25:27):
And he says, yeah, it's the nineteen sixties because it
wasn't just the assassinations, it was the street violence. And
then things calm down. He says, people get bored. You know,
another violent day of rioting, another violent day where somebody
gets going. Oh yeah, same old thing that happened Friday.
And then they stopped for a while, and then years
(25:47):
go by and they start up again. And if you
look at the history of the human race, not just
here but everywhere else, it's.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
True we're wired that way.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But now we have the added overstimulation obsession with being online,
being part of these social media groups, and everybody feeds
into each other's insanity.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So that's why I can't do the happy dance. It's okay,
like you the way you are, This is the way
I live now. When we come back.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
We've talked some about that those cartridges they found with
the transgender message on it in the rifle of the killer.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I want to play you a clip of what.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Just one example of what Charlie Kirk, How Charlie Kirk
dealt with transgenderism and a real transgender person who was
a guy with a mustache and wearing a pink dress
at one of his appearances, and you can hear the
back and forth.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's next.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We don't have any further information yet on the new find.
The Wall Street Journal reported that they know the rifle
that was used to kill Charlie Kirk was found in
the woods, and they found some unspent cartridges in the
rifle and they had engravings and about transgender and anti
(27:23):
fascist ideo ideology statements.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Don't know exactly what it said. I did see a clip.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Of him, Charlie Kirk talking to a transgender now it
was at one of his events and this person came
up and he was a young guy, kind of chunky, bobbery,
wearing dark roomed glasses, longish hair and had a bit
(27:57):
of a beard stubble, and wearing a pink dress with
like frilly white lace around the edges of the dress
and he confronted Charlie Kirk about Charlie's views play this clip.
You're part of the problem, I think with the hatred
(28:18):
on trans people.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's really not that deep.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Like, if someone wants to dress up however they want,
that's totally fine.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Okay, So I think I'm not You're not preventing you
from dressing Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, However, let.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Me ask you a question. I will brush this out.
So let's pretend you say you are a woman. Yeah,
I know you are a man, but I refuse to
call you a woman. Okay, who's the hateful one?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I would say you are? I mean, you're going to.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Me and shame me, not a second man, I'm the
hateful one.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's really just like common courtesy.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
It is never the common courtesy to lie. You do
not become a thing just because you say it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You are the thing. Guess what.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Nobody in the history of the species that was born
xx or born x y and transition is able to
change their chromosomes. Every one of your cells is coded
either xx or xy. But then it is an insult
to women everywhere in this audience and across the country
that's saying that you could just have wear makeup and
dress like a woman, undergo surgery that you magically become
a woman, and it is the abolition of women and
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is the abolition of reality. And we see great, unjust
human suffering because of it.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And it's having an opinion like that that may have
gotten him killed. And he is correct. Excess chromosomes indicate
female biological sex and x y chromosomes indicate a male
biological sex.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And he's right.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Doesn't matter if you put on a pretty pink dress
with white frilly lace, that doesn't make you a woman.
It doesn't change your chromosomes male female characteristics. That's biology.
That's what you were born with. And every cell in
your body as xx chromosomes if you're female, and x
(30:07):
y chromosomes if you're male. There's no other way it
can be. Now, you can call yourself anything you want,
and you can dress any way you want, but to
try to force people to say, oh, you're a woman, Oh,
some people aren't going to do that. Charlie Kirk was
(30:27):
one of them, and those thoughts may have gotten him killed.
If we go by the engravings on one of the bullets,
according to the reports we hear this morning, we'll see
we'll see where that goes when we come back after
three o'clock. I know we're doing something good. Somebody clue
(30:49):
me in, Oh geez's wrong with me? Well, there's a lot.
Michael msche USC Professor Newsom is really really scrambling now
because we've got eight dollars gas looming in our future.
He knows it. He's frantically trying to react to it,
and we're going to talk about it when we come back.
It's almost funny. Debra Mark Live in the CAFI twenty
(31:12):
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