July 18, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (07/18) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Jaime Paige comes on the show to talk about the idea of low-income housing being built in Pacific Palisades. More on SB549 being pulled back to be reworked and reintroduced. Attorney Lou Shapiro comes on the show to talk about the CEO who was caught with the head of HR for the company at a Coldplay concert. What is a "work wife"?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John Colbelt.
John back with us on Monday. So the latest now
on the effort to buy some in Sacramento by many
in Sacramento, in fact, to reimagine Pacific Palisades before we
start moving shovels, moving earth and putting sticks in the ground.
(00:28):
And a lot of people are really concerned about the
Senate bill Center Bill five forty nine. The author of
the bill, Senator Allen said in a statement that it
would be best to pause it, given all the feedback,
and take the time to quote get it right. Jamie
Page writes for the Westside Current Westside Current dot com.
(00:48):
She's been following all of this. Jamie, thanks for spending
time with us. If he's pausing on legislation for a year,
that does not bode well for the people want to
be done or far along with being done and getting
their house back a year from now.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm not sure they need this committee to move forward.
In fact, I think most people think this committee or
this bill which would form the committee, would get in
its own way. That's been a local pushback with this bill.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So Jessica Rodgers is president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association.
She's been on on record is saying, look, we don't
want new zoning. We don't want to reimagine Pacific Palisades.
This is our home, These are our homes, this is
our community. All we want to do is go back
to the way it was before the terrible fire in January.
(01:43):
What is wrong with just doing that? Just leave it
alone and let people rebuild what was there.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, I think that's the common sentiment. I don't think
I know among the most residents. And just to take
a few steps back. I talked to Senator Allen. When
folks got word of this bill, they got word of
it through Councilwoman Tracy Park. She's the local city council
woman who represents the area. She had sent out an
email blast to constituents saying, I don't know if you've
(02:12):
heard about this bill, but they didn't ask local representatives,
including myself, anything about it, and that's not how we
do things here. When I talked to the Senator Allen,
he had said, you know, we pushed this bill through quickly,
because we just wanted to get a framework in and
then work as we go. Well, as you know, in
Los Angeles, it just doesn't work that way. Most of
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the time. We get in our own way of doing things.
I mean, we haven't even gotten in a building permits
out to a majority of the folks, and we're talking
about zoning and putting different.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Rules in place before that.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I think that's the common sentiment. We haven't even
got to step two yet, and they're on step ten.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You talked to real estate agents, realtors, people that sold
many of the people that lived there their homes, and
they are I mean almost in unison. Their opinion is
not optimistic. They're saying that this will never be the same.
And my clients have moved, They've purchased homes in Orange County,
(03:14):
they purchased homes in other parts of Los Angeles, and
you know, really, no, they don't have the time. They're
at different parts of their career, different points in their career.
So I guess the idea of it ever going back
to the way it was in January, do you think
that's even imaginable.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think the other side of the stories, people hope
and are hoping for that too, right. I've talked to
realtors and people who own land. There's so many more
issues in the palisade than in most places. I live
in the Woolsey rebuild area, where you still see a
few RVs and empty lots where they haven't had been
able to rebuild. But in the case over here, they
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had a few they were able to sue to make
themselves whole of palisades. We some figured out how that
fire started in the first place. And then seventy percent
of the residents are under insured or not insured. And
then you have these lawmakers who are coming up with
SB five forty nine without even kind of having it
(04:16):
fully baked before it goes before the constituents. And I
think that's what's happening here is is there's just so
many things happening, and what the residents are saying is
can we please just all move forward in the way
that we're supposed to, And that's you know, going through
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No No, you said that you had spoken with Center
do Allen a number of times on this. I'm wondering
if you got a sense because I know these people.
I know these Democrats and Sacramento like the back of
my hand when it comes to these opportunities. And I'm curious,
do you get a sense that SB five four nine
was designed for the Pacific Palisades issue or was always
kind of on the back burner somewhere and just looking
(04:57):
for an opportunity to have so have a problem to
put the solution to, because they're always looking in Sacramento
for opportunities to you know, to take I want to say,
take advantage of. But where there are opportunities to rezone
areas and put in low cost, low income housing, they
always want to do that. So did you get a
(05:18):
sense that this was always kind of an idea that
was floating out there.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I actually had heard I've heard from multiple sources that
this bill actually came from our county Supervisor, Lindsay Horvath.
And if you put that question with her name, absolutely,
That's why I think a lot of people are fearful
of this is because she would She has repeatedly have
(05:44):
history of doing maneuvers.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Quite like this.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So there's not a lot of public trust out there
when it comes to But yes, I mean, your Senator
Wiener has a bill out there that wants to remove,
you know, voices of local municipalities when it comes to
high transit areas. And so there's that fear that possibly
he's looking at the palisades in Brentwood as well.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and Senator Wiener is a leader in Sacramento on
this issue of effectively and it's I mean, obviously there's
two schools of thought. But for homeowners and the homeowners
in Pacific Palace Ades, they would characterize it as belligerent,
like these policies are belligerent to private home ownership and
(06:27):
having zones of family homes like in the Pacific Power Stades.
I appreciate the update. We got to go. It's always
good to get an update from you, and we appreciate
you spending time on this. Jamie page is with Westside
Current dot Com. Westside Current dot Com covering this better
than anybody else in Los Angeles. Louke Penrose sitting here
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Speaker 1 (08:21):
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forty talking about the shelving if you will, of Senate
Bill five forty nine to bring you up the speed.
If you've not heard this, there is a piece of
legislation authored by Senator Ben Allen working its way through
Sacramento to effectively bring low income housing to the Pacific Palisades.
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A various array of programs and the government policy that
would either use government money your tax dollars to buy
up land that's not going to be built upon, or
to take control of land. You just heard from Jamie
Page at Westside Current dot com that only thirty percent
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a third of the homeowners were fully insured. So you
have seventy percent that are either underinsured, which means they
would have to come up with the difference to put
their house back on the lot, or had no insurance.
So this is an opportunity for government to step in
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and get some pretty cheap land and do what Democrats
always want to do, and that is turned everything into
the projects. But of course Democrats don't understand that Pacific
palisades is elite real estate. There are good parts of town,
and there are medium parts of town, and there are
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bad parts of town. Now, every bad part of town
has the capacity to be a good part of town.
But in real estate, location is everything. So even a
good part of town that looks at a canyon is
not going to be a good part of town that
looks at the Pacific on a palisade. So that is
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always going to be valuable land until you zone it
with communities and individuals who could never otherwise afford to
be there, which brings down the value of the real estate.
And that's just a reality. And I don't know why
we have to whisper that reality. We all live in
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the same reality. I don't know where you grew up,
but I didn't grow up in a great part of town.
And my mother always talked about the rich people that
live up there. Right, there's always somebody with more money
than you, And that's okay. It doesn't mean it's unsafe.
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It's just that there are just some places that are
nicer than others, and Los Angeles is no different than
any other corner of America. And also, if that's what
you want, and a lot of people do have those desires,
those are motivating factors. I know a huge real estate
developer who's now retired and just does a podcast. But
(11:14):
he came to California out of college and had no direction,
no skills, didn't know what he wanted to do. And
the first thing that he did was effectively walk up
to and interview somebody with a great, big house and said,
I want to end up like you. What do you do?
How do I get that like? That was his motivating factor,
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and he is now a retired individual, him and his
wife one of the most successful lenders in southern California.
But what was motivating him the way he grew up
was to live in a great, big house on the hill.
So for many people, that's a motivating factor for hard
work and success. That's okay, nothing wrong with that. Don't forget.
(11:58):
We are the society that invented the television program Lifestyles
of the rich and famous. We are the culture that
watches the Kardashians. We are the I mean HGTV and
House Hunters and all these programs on television. This is
all part of the Southern California lifestyle. And it's wonderful, right.
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It's it's okay to enjoy beautiful homes, beautiful properties, and
Pacific Palisades is emblematic of that. So why would we
want to ruin that by incorporating There are no programs
on HGTV with any ratings called lifestyle of the low
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income housing projects doesn't exist for a reason, all right. So,
but the good news is for now, Senate Bill five p.
Forty nine has been shelved, I guess for a year.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Senator Allen sending out a statement, Sandy appreciates the feedback
and that it would be best for us to pause
the bill until next year to give us more time
to see if we can get it right.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Just give us our homes back and protect us from fire.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
As Matthew A. Cedarford from Fox eleven followed, by Jessica Rodgers.
She's president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association. We'll see
where it goes. I don't like the phrase get it right.
That suggests to me that the Senator still wants to
be in your business. If you are a homeowner or
had a home in the Pacific Palace Ades, or have
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any interest or investment in this corner of Los Angeles,
then that the Senator wants to quote get it right
means he wants to continue to engage with you and
continue to be up in your business. And really, there
is no good that can come from that. I have
never seen a piece of Democrat legislation that is out
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of Sacramento signed into law that has made the housing
business better, that has made housing more affordable. I mean,
you don't have to look much further than rent control.
Rent control has been devastating to renters, causing rents to
go up, causing people to take rental housing out of
the cycle. The cost to build houses cause people to
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keep houses that they don't need. There are people that
are empty nesters sitting in a five bedroom house because
they can't afford to pay the new property taxes and
sell the house and buy themselves a two bedroom condo
and live like empty nesters, which would open up a
five bedroom house from somebody that has a two bedroom
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house that wants to expand their family. Like housing. The
marketplace drives housing, and it makes sense. And when Democrats
get involved, they've ruined the cycle. And they all say
the same thing. We're trying to address the housing crisis. Loo,
We're trying to address the housing. The housing crisis is
pretty easy to solve. Get government out of the market.
(15:08):
It doesn't help. It tries to help, it doesn't. It
make matters worse. And here, look, I mean, he says
that he's gonna put it on the shelf. Senator Ben
Allen says he's gonna put the issue of getting involved
of rezoning Pacific Palace aids, having the government buy up
land and throw in the projects next to one point
six million dollar houses. That's gonna be great. That's gonna
(15:30):
look great. Yeah, I guarantee you the open houses are
gonna be wonderful. When you see this great, big apartment
building going up next to you know, your house with
the backyard that overlooks the Pacific Ocean, that's really gonna
get him rolling up on a Saturday afternoon waving a
deposit check. Now, look, they're gonna ruin it, and that
he wants to shelve it for a year and then
(15:52):
revisit it. Number one should tell you that they have
there is no fire under their feet, there is no
wind at their back to get this rebuilt, and they
know it. Look if the reporters who are reporting from
Westside current dot com know that only thirty percent of
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the people that had homes there could afford, are insured,
have the capital and the means to rebuild whether they
want to or not as a separate story altogether, then
the lawmakers are well aware that there's land and opportunity
and it is their goal. Democrats don't change when it
comes to these issues. It is their goal to get
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more people out of single family homes and to get
more multifamily housing with low income housing components in these areas.
They just don't like the fact that you have your
own backyard and they never have. Lou Penrose sitting here
for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere
(16:59):
on the IHAT Radio app.
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Speaker 1 (17:07):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today. Good to have
you along with us. You could not pick up your
phone today and not see a Coldplay report a Coldplay
concert revisit somebody commenting in on it, the live footage
itself from the apparently hundreds of people that have video
(17:28):
of this, or all the jokes. The jokes have been
pretty good. Stub Hub is a reporting that they have
a Coldplay concert tickets for you and your coworker. Peloton
is doing a Coldplay ride. Let's see here. Coldplay has
not released a single in years, but last night I
created two singles. So it goes on. But you have
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got to have heard the story by now that the
CEO of a billion dollar tech company called Astronomer was
at the Coldplay concert in Massachusetts at the Tillette Stadium
and he was caught on the kissing can.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You see this at Dodger Games, Angel Games, right at
some point the JumboTron is up there and they go
into the stands to catch people waving, and sometimes they
do it to catch people kissing. This wasn't officially a
kiss cam, but it was a cam decided to go
around and catch couples in the audience, and they found
one Andy Byron, who was the CEO, and he was
canoodling with the other girl. And that's Kristin Cabot, but
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she's the HR chief of the same company. But they're
not married to each other. So this is now all
the controversy. Attorney lu Shapiro is with us. Oh my goodness.
This is like, this is as American as a get
right is. This is why we have magazines at the
checkout counter at grocery stores. This is US Weekly and
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People magazines. Is all that combined into one. You got
the CEO of a company, you got the h R girl,
and they're both married and they get caught the kiss
cam at a Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, I think everybody is enjoying us and getting that
chuckle that you're describing. With exception to Andy Byron himself,
I don't think he's having a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
No, not at all. But and it's it's still questionable
whether or not it was his his comment. There was
a statement put out. I think he has since distanced
himself from the statement. I don't know if that means
it was not, if it was not him, or it
was just inaccurate, But he did put out a statement
and you know, apology basically talked about how you know,
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this was a private moment. He did suggest, however, that
somehow the concert and maybe the band is has a
little bit of fault for putting the camera on them.
That is he gonna get any play out of that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, that's that's definitely not the right pr move on that.
Shifting the blame to somebody else's pointing fingers, historically has
never proven to be very helpful to someone. If anything,
it's better to either say I apologize for what we've
seen and will be working on it internally, or to
say nothing at all. But shifting the blame only makes
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things worse.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
In general, we see that the HR person Kristen Cabot,
her name has been removed from the website, and Astronomer
is a publicly traded company so they have a board
of directors, so it remains to be seen what happens
here with respect to you know, these careers. But her
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name has been taken off the website. The what Andy
Byron's wife on her social media presence has changed her
last name and removed her Instagram account. So that's all
we know so far. Get from a corporate sense, like
what what does this mean? What we can what can
we expect to play out?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Will does he have to resign?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's a very good question. So here's the quantity of
the company is in right now. The HR person is able,
So she's off the website. They'll find somebody else, and
they have to because the HR person is supposed to
be the one that is basically the babysitter of the
company right making sure that people aren't having inappropriate relationships
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with coworkers, the subordinates and so forth. And here she
is basically leading the charge in what you're not supposed
to do under the HR umbrella. So she's done. The
question is when does that lead the CEO? And if
you look at his bio and what he has brought
to the company, the board is going to be very
conflicted here because this is a person who's leading a
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company worth one point three billion dollars and this guy
is those stranger to the field. He's led several leadership
roles before coming to this company, and he's got a
networth himself of about twenty to seventy million dollars. So
this is no small potato. They are not many of
people like this around that have his experience, intelligence, and ingenuity.
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So I don't think it's going to be a clear
cut you're gone. I think what they're going to try
to do is to work out some sort of like
a rehabilitative approach or response where he's going to be
checking into a program of some sort or agreeing to
go to certain counseling or therapy and maybe maybe take
a sabbatical or some sort of a short term suspension
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in order to do that introspection. But that's where I
see this going. I don't think he's just gone. In
the totality of this, what.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
About his wife? There has been chatter, a more than chatter.
There's been nothing but social media conversation about all of
this from people that claim to know personally and people
that I'm sure fake it. But there is the talk of, well, look,
if she wishes to get full custody and all the
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money that goes along with that and care, she probably will.
But also there is this idea of being taken by
surprise and being embarrassed publicly, and that does bring about
a claim for emotional distress? Does this fit that definition?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The embarrassment that she's suffered and shock is probably immeasurable.
Everyone has to feel for her. So the issue is
what is she going to do next. There's two ways
of approaching this. One is they can try to repair
this marriage and go to counseling, which many people do.
This is not the first time that someone has had
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an extra marital affair, so it may be one of
the first times the CEOs caught on the kiss cam
doing it. Yeah, but this ended up itself happens so,
and the alternative is if she wants to seek a
divorce and gore separate ways. The third option, I don't
see any super intentional affliction emotional disturce that we don't
see the family law context. That kind of funds or
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separation or punishment so to speak, will be certainly sought
out within the context of the family law proceedings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Do you think there will be any I don't know,
paring down of the kiss cam thing. Do you think
this will cause, you know, stadiums and auditoriums to maybe
second get I mean, there's been a lot of fun
with this, but and I agree with you the idea
of shifting the blame onto coldplay is absurd, But he
attempted to do it, So I'm wondering if maybe we
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will see that go away for fear of this becoming
you know, there has not been any negative blowback onto
Coldplay yet. There's been a bit though, and people say like, oh,
the worst part is that he was at a Coldplay concert.
I mean, so, I'm wondering if maybe, you know, people
might think this might not be a good idea after all.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Now, I think the kiss cam is going to be
alive and well after this. Most people looking at this
are going to take the position that this was no
fault of kiss Cam. It's the assumption of risk that
people take when they're married and hugging and kissing somebody
in public. Right, It's like you should have known better.
So for kiss cam to be punished or extinct as
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a result, I don't think that's likely on this one.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Attorney lu Shapiro, thanks so much. I appreciate you. You're
busy today. A lot of people are talking about this.
Everybody's talking out at this. As I said, I got
up this morning working with Ray to put together all
the news that's happening in Los Angeles. There was an
explosion at seven thirty at the Sheriff's training facility of
the terrible loss of life. There three deputies, and I'm
(25:26):
trying to get more information and I can't get past
somebody else posting this kiss cam video of this guy,
the CEO at the Coldplay concert. So it is definitely
being talked about, all right, So coming up after the
top of the hour, we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh.
You hear her every Sunday at seven here on KFI
AM six forty. Because there is other layers to this, right,
(25:49):
I mean, there is the CEO and the HR director
and all of a sudden now they find themselves in
a romantic relationship. So does this now give pause to
everybody in corporate relationships to say, hey, make sure there
is clear delineation and separation because you people work close together,
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you work eight hour days. There's this term out there
called my work wife. Maybe that's not a good idea
to use that kind of language anymore. On given this story,
we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh. Coming up following the
news at three o'clock. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt
on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
sixty The.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John this afternoon,
Good to be with you. The two individuals in this
cold play kiss cam controversy have been placed on administrative
leave from the company. According to the website, the company
is Astronomer. He's not an astronomer. The company's name is
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Astronomer and it's a software development company. Hi, it's a
high tech company, one point three billion dollar tech company.
And he's the CEO and she was the hr person.
And they were at the concert and they're going around
the stadium and the two of them are canodling. I
guess it is the Is that the best way to
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put it. That's a canoodle. I mean they weren't making out,
but they were. She he was behind her, and she
was in front of him, and he had heard his
arms wrapped completely around her. And you'll see it for yourself.
It's impossible. I challenge you to open your phone and
not see a photograph of this. What's really fun is
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once they're busted, like they're the technique, I mean, the
solution doesn't work at all. He literally and he's he's
a looks like a tall drink of water. I would
say he's probably six foot six to one. And they're
like out of the out of the seats, literally up
against the railing of whatever level they are at this
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concert venue at the Gillette Staium I've never been, and
so like they're up against the railing and he just
basically sinks down to the ground, so he's out of
the camera shot, and she covers her face with both
hands and then turns around, but she doesn't really move.
So it probably would have passed and nobody would have
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noticed if it were not for their reaction of being
on the camera. Like if they just waved, he just
dropped his hands and waved, nobody would have filmed it.
Nobody would have noticed. But that was the problem, is
that the reaction was so dramatic and jarring that Coldplay
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singer Chris Martin couldn't help himself but say, like, oh god,
what's that all about. Either they're having an affair or
they're really shy, and the rest is history unbelievable. Coming up,
we'll talk with Dr Wendy Walsh. You hear Dr Wendy
Walsh every Sunday at seven here on KFIM six forty
will get her take on this. And there is another
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angle to this that I think is worthy of exploration,
and that is I've seen this happen not in my life,
but I have seen this happen in the corporate culture.
I certainly have seen this happen in politics, where I
spent fifteen years of my life. I've seen this and
I'm not making excuses for it. I'm not apologizing for
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the behavior. He got busted. They got busted. It happens.
Most people actually don't get busted. It goes on more
often than you think. And you know exactly what I'm
talking about. You've seen it at your office. Everyone has
had one of these experiences of observing it or suspecting
it and then years later finding out that they got married.
You're like, oh, I knew they were close. Like these
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are the kinds of things that happen the CEO, even
if the CEO is a genius, an electrical engineering genius.
Right when you become CEO an organization, your job is
not to write code or to be creative. Your job
is to oversee the company and to manage the creative people.
That you oversee, which means the operations guy is not
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really your second in command, your chief operating officer. You
wish you could spend more time with him, but you don't.
You spend most of your time with your HR person
because that's the huge time suck in any organization, including
the one that I current work for. Right. I mean,
you want to spend time with your CFO, but you
(30:33):
only do that out of need if there's problems before
board meetings. No, the CEO has got to spend a
lot of time with human resources. That's where you have
legal exposure constantly, and often the human resources person is
a woman. Just seems to be the way it goes.
(30:54):
So if you're constantly in a meeting and constantly troubleshooting
and problem solving and coming up with creative problem solving,
you know, ideas, with your right hand man who is
a woman and comma, you're spending eight hours a day,
nine hours a day, ten hours a day, and maybe
forty hours a week with this person who you rely
(31:17):
on to solve the real problems in any huge organization,
which are human resources right in the legal framework and
all the legal loopholes and everything that people are trying
to claim. They're constantly trying to claim, Oh, he sexually
harassed me, she sexually harassed me. The sexual harassment. I
don't like the joke that they told. And you're CEO
(31:37):
of the company, You're trying to run a company, and
there's this all the childishness going on, and then you've
got to call the HR girl to come in again.
Explain to me where we are, what does the law say,
Get a hold of our attorney to find out what
the you know, the labor attorney, what she has to
say about it. I have seen this in organizations, and
the human condition is what it is. And when people
(32:00):
start relying on each other and having each other solve,
having people solve each other's problems in the workplace, big problems,
you know, problems that come attached to zero's. If that
person solves your problems and she's the HR person, you
are just going to start feeling very indebted to that person,
and that indebtedness becomes a fondness, and then that fondness
(32:23):
becomes romantic and the next thing you know, you're at
a Coldplay concert and everybody's looking at you. So, as
I said, I've seen this happen. We'll talk with doctor
Wendy Walsh about it coming up following the news at three.
You know who's an expert at getting on the camera
regardless of the venue. My twelve year old son. My
(32:44):
twelve year old son always he has an unblemished record,
one hundred percent record when he is at a stadium.
He at the at Staples Center, he's there, he's got
some kind of a dance or something. He knows how
to do it. He has the right moves and he
knows where to go in the aisle to do his
(33:05):
dance to wind up on the big jumbo tron at
Staples Center. Same thing just happened at the Angel Stadium
in Anaheim. Went to go I think it was I
got tickets for Father's Day from the boys, so I
have three sons and the four of us went and
it came time for you know, the camera to go
around the stadium and the kiss camera. They don't have
(33:25):
a kiss camera there. It's just a camera to wave
your hat. And he knew it was the right time,
and he knew where to go. Got like eque distant
in the aisle, like in the middle of the aisle,
but halfway you know, up the stairs to the level
and did his little dance and wouldn't you know what,
he was up on the camera. So there are there
(33:46):
are ways to get on that jumbocam when you want
to be on it, when you don't want to be
on it, don't be canodling with the HR Lady Lou
Penrose sitting here with John Cobel on KFI AM six
forty and live on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
You've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast, you
can always hear the show live on KFI AM six
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't find AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
The John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John Colbelt.
John back with us on Monday. So the latest now
on the effort to buy some in Sacramento by many
in Sacramento, in fact, to reimagine Pacific Palisades before we
start moving shovels, moving earth and putting sticks in the ground.
(00:28):
And a lot of people are really concerned about the
Senate bill Center Bill five forty nine. The author of
the bill, Senator Allen said in a statement that it
would be best to pause it, given all the feedback,
and take the time to quote get it right. Jamie
Page writes for the Westside Current Westside Current dot com.
(00:48):
She's been following all of this. Jamie, thanks for spending
time with us. If he's pausing on legislation for a year,
that does not bode well for the people want to
be done or far along with being done and getting
their house back a year from now.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm not sure they need this committee to move forward.
In fact, I think most people think this committee or
this bill which would form the committee, would get in
its own way. That's been a local pushback with this bill.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So Jessica Rodgers is president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association.
She's been on on record is saying, look, we don't
want new zoning. We don't want to reimagine Pacific Palisades.
This is our home, These are our homes, this is
our community. All we want to do is go back
to the way it was before the terrible fire in January.
(01:43):
What is wrong with just doing that? Just leave it
alone and let people rebuild what was there.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, I think that's the common sentiment. I don't think
I know among the most residents. And just to take
a few steps back. I talked to Senator Allen. When
folks got word of this bill, they got word of
it through Councilwoman Tracy Park. She's the local city council
woman who represents the area. She had sent out an
email blast to constituents saying, I don't know if you've
(02:12):
heard about this bill, but they didn't ask local representatives,
including myself, anything about it, and that's not how we
do things here. When I talked to the Senator Allen,
he had said, you know, we pushed this bill through quickly,
because we just wanted to get a framework in and
then work as we go. Well, as you know, in
Los Angeles, it just doesn't work that way. Most of
(02:35):
the time. We get in our own way of doing things.
I mean, we haven't even gotten in a building permits
out to a majority of the folks, and we're talking
about zoning and putting different.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Rules in place before that.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And I think that's the common sentiment. We haven't even
got to step two yet, and they're on step ten.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You talked to real estate agents, realtors, people that sold
many of the people that lived there their homes, and
they are I mean almost in unison. Their opinion is
not optimistic. They're saying that this will never be the same.
And my clients have moved, They've purchased homes in Orange County,
(03:14):
they purchased homes in other parts of Los Angeles, and
you know, really, no, they don't have the time. They're
at different parts of their career, different points in their career.
So I guess the idea of it ever going back
to the way it was in January, do you think
that's even imaginable.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think the other side of the stories, people hope
and are hoping for that too, right. I've talked to
realtors and people who own land. There's so many more
issues in the palisade than in most places. I live
in the Woolsey rebuild area, where you still see a
few RVs and empty lots where they haven't had been
able to rebuild. But in the case over here, they
(03:55):
had a few they were able to sue to make
themselves whole of palisades. We some figured out how that
fire started in the first place. And then seventy percent
of the residents are under insured or not insured. And
then you have these lawmakers who are coming up with
SB five forty nine without even kind of having it
(04:16):
fully baked before it goes before the constituents. And I
think that's what's happening here is is there's just so
many things happening, and what the residents are saying is
can we please just all move forward in the way
that we're supposed to, And that's you know, going through
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No No, you said that you had spoken with Center
do Allen a number of times on this. I'm wondering
if you got a sense because I know these people.
I know these Democrats and Sacramento like the back of
my hand when it comes to these opportunities. And I'm curious,
do you get a sense that SB five four nine
was designed for the Pacific Palisades issue or was always
kind of on the back burner somewhere and just looking
(04:57):
for an opportunity to have so have a problem to
put the solution to, because they're always looking in Sacramento
for opportunities to you know, to take I want to say,
take advantage of. But where there are opportunities to rezone
areas and put in low cost, low income housing, they
always want to do that. So did you get a
(05:18):
sense that this was always kind of an idea that
was floating out there.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I actually had heard I've heard from multiple sources that
this bill actually came from our county Supervisor, Lindsay Horvath.
And if you put that question with her name, absolutely,
That's why I think a lot of people are fearful
of this is because she would She has repeatedly have
(05:44):
history of doing maneuvers.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Quite like this.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So there's not a lot of public trust out there
when it comes to But yes, I mean, your Senator
Wiener has a bill out there that wants to remove,
you know, voices of local municipalities when it comes to
high transit areas. And so there's that fear that possibly
he's looking at the palisades in Brentwood as well.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, and Senator Wiener is a leader in Sacramento on
this issue of effectively and it's I mean, obviously there's
two schools of thought. But for homeowners and the homeowners
in Pacific Palace Ades, they would characterize it as belligerent,
like these policies are belligerent to private home ownership and
(06:27):
having zones of family homes like in the Pacific Power Stades.
I appreciate the update. We got to go. It's always
good to get an update from you, and we appreciate
you spending time on this. Jamie page is with Westside
Current dot Com. Westside Current dot Com covering this better
than anybody else in Los Angeles. Louke Penrose sitting here
for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere
(06:49):
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Speaker 5 (08:15):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Lou Penrose Info. John Cobelt on kf I AM six
forty talking about the shelving if you will, of Senate
Bill five forty nine to bring you up the speed.
If you've not heard this, there is a piece of
legislation authored by Senator Ben Allen working its way through
Sacramento to effectively bring low income housing to the Pacific Palisades.
(08:46):
A various array of programs and the government policy that
would either use government money your tax dollars to buy
up land that's not going to be built upon, or
to take control of land. You just heard from Jamie
Page at Westside Current dot com that only thirty percent
(09:10):
a third of the homeowners were fully insured. So you
have seventy percent that are either underinsured, which means they
would have to come up with the difference to put
their house back on the lot, or had no insurance.
So this is an opportunity for government to step in
(09:30):
and get some pretty cheap land and do what Democrats
always want to do, and that is turned everything into
the projects. But of course Democrats don't understand that Pacific
palisades is elite real estate. There are good parts of town,
and there are medium parts of town, and there are
(09:52):
bad parts of town. Now, every bad part of town
has the capacity to be a good part of town.
But in real estate, location is everything. So even a
good part of town that looks at a canyon is
not going to be a good part of town that
looks at the Pacific on a palisade. So that is
(10:12):
always going to be valuable land until you zone it
with communities and individuals who could never otherwise afford to
be there, which brings down the value of the real estate.
And that's just a reality. And I don't know why
we have to whisper that reality. We all live in
(10:34):
the same reality. I don't know where you grew up,
but I didn't grow up in a great part of town.
And my mother always talked about the rich people that
live up there. Right, there's always somebody with more money
than you, And that's okay. It doesn't mean it's unsafe.
(10:54):
It's just that there are just some places that are
nicer than others, and Los Angeles is no different than
any other corner of America. And also, if that's what
you want, and a lot of people do have those desires,
those are motivating factors. I know a huge real estate
developer who's now retired and just does a podcast. But
(11:14):
he came to California out of college and had no direction,
no skills, didn't know what he wanted to do. And
the first thing that he did was effectively walk up
to and interview somebody with a great, big house and said,
I want to end up like you. What do you do?
How do I get that like? That was his motivating factor,
(11:36):
and he is now a retired individual, him and his
wife one of the most successful lenders in southern California.
But what was motivating him the way he grew up
was to live in a great, big house on the hill.
So for many people, that's a motivating factor for hard
work and success. That's okay, nothing wrong with that. Don't forget.
(11:58):
We are the society that invented the television program Lifestyles
of the rich and famous. We are the culture that
watches the Kardashians. We are the I mean HGTV and
House Hunters and all these programs on television. This is
all part of the Southern California lifestyle. And it's wonderful, right.
(12:22):
It's it's okay to enjoy beautiful homes, beautiful properties, and
Pacific Palisades is emblematic of that. So why would we
want to ruin that by incorporating There are no programs
on HGTV with any ratings called lifestyle of the low
(12:43):
income housing projects doesn't exist for a reason, all right. So,
but the good news is for now, Senate Bill five p.
Forty nine has been shelved, I guess for a year.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Senator Allen sending out a statement, Sandy appreciates the feedback
and that it would be best for us to pause
the bill until next year to give us more time
to see if we can get it right.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Just give us our homes back and protect us from fire.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
As Matthew A. Cedarford from Fox eleven followed, by Jessica Rodgers.
She's president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association. We'll see
where it goes. I don't like the phrase get it right.
That suggests to me that the Senator still wants to
be in your business. If you are a homeowner or
had a home in the Pacific Palace Ades, or have
(13:37):
any interest or investment in this corner of Los Angeles,
then that the Senator wants to quote get it right
means he wants to continue to engage with you and
continue to be up in your business. And really, there
is no good that can come from that. I have
never seen a piece of Democrat legislation that is out
(13:58):
of Sacramento signed into law that has made the housing
business better, that has made housing more affordable. I mean,
you don't have to look much further than rent control.
Rent control has been devastating to renters, causing rents to
go up, causing people to take rental housing out of
the cycle. The cost to build houses cause people to
(14:24):
keep houses that they don't need. There are people that
are empty nesters sitting in a five bedroom house because
they can't afford to pay the new property taxes and
sell the house and buy themselves a two bedroom condo
and live like empty nesters, which would open up a
five bedroom house from somebody that has a two bedroom
(14:44):
house that wants to expand their family. Like housing. The
marketplace drives housing, and it makes sense. And when Democrats
get involved, they've ruined the cycle. And they all say
the same thing. We're trying to address the housing crisis. Loo,
We're trying to address the housing. The housing crisis is
pretty easy to solve. Get government out of the market.
(15:08):
It doesn't help. It tries to help, it doesn't. It
make matters worse. And here, look, I mean, he says
that he's gonna put it on the shelf. Senator Ben
Allen says he's gonna put the issue of getting involved
of rezoning Pacific Palace aids, having the government buy up
land and throw in the projects next to one point
six million dollar houses. That's gonna be great. That's gonna
(15:30):
look great. Yeah, I guarantee you the open houses are
gonna be wonderful. When you see this great, big apartment
building going up next to you know, your house with
the backyard that overlooks the Pacific Ocean, that's really gonna
get him rolling up on a Saturday afternoon waving a
deposit check. Now, look, they're gonna ruin it, and that
he wants to shelve it for a year and then
(15:52):
revisit it. Number one should tell you that they have
there is no fire under their feet, there is no
wind at their back to get this rebuilt, and they
know it. Look if the reporters who are reporting from
Westside current dot com know that only thirty percent of
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the people that had homes there could afford, are insured,
have the capital and the means to rebuild whether they
want to or not as a separate story altogether, then
the lawmakers are well aware that there's land and opportunity
and it is their goal. Democrats don't change when it
comes to these issues. It is their goal to get
(16:38):
more people out of single family homes and to get
more multifamily housing with low income housing components in these areas.
They just don't like the fact that you have your
own backyard and they never have. Lou Penrose sitting here
for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere
(16:59):
on the IHAT Radio app.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AI.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today. Good to have
you along with us. You could not pick up your
phone today and not see a Coldplay report a Coldplay
concert revisit somebody commenting in on it, the live footage
itself from the apparently hundreds of people that have video
(17:28):
of this, or all the jokes. The jokes have been
pretty good. Stub Hub is a reporting that they have
a Coldplay concert tickets for you and your coworker. Peloton
is doing a Coldplay ride. Let's see here. Coldplay has
not released a single in years, but last night I
created two singles. So it goes on. But you have
(17:51):
got to have heard the story by now that the
CEO of a billion dollar tech company called Astronomer was
at the Coldplay concert in Massachusetts at the Tillette Stadium
and he was caught on the kissing can.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
You see this at Dodger Games, Angel Games, right at
some point the JumboTron is up there and they go
into the stands to catch people waving, and sometimes they
do it to catch people kissing. This wasn't officially a
kiss cam, but it was a cam decided to go
around and catch couples in the audience, and they found
one Andy Byron, who was the CEO, and he was
canoodling with the other girl. And that's Kristin Cabot, but
(18:30):
she's the HR chief of the same company. But they're
not married to each other. So this is now all
the controversy. Attorney lu Shapiro is with us. Oh my goodness.
This is like, this is as American as a get
right is. This is why we have magazines at the
checkout counter at grocery stores. This is US Weekly and
(18:51):
People magazines. Is all that combined into one. You got
the CEO of a company, you got the h R girl,
and they're both married and they get caught the kiss
cam at a Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, I think everybody is enjoying us and getting that
chuckle that you're describing. With exception to Andy Byron himself,
I don't think he's having a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
No, not at all. But and it's it's still questionable
whether or not it was his his comment. There was
a statement put out. I think he has since distanced
himself from the statement. I don't know if that means
it was not, if it was not him, or it
was just inaccurate, But he did put out a statement
and you know, apology basically talked about how you know,
(19:33):
this was a private moment. He did suggest, however, that
somehow the concert and maybe the band is has a
little bit of fault for putting the camera on them.
That is he gonna get any play out of that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, that's that's definitely not the right pr move on that.
Shifting the blame to somebody else's pointing fingers, historically has
never proven to be very helpful to someone. If anything,
it's better to either say I apologize for what we've
seen and will be working on it internally, or to
say nothing at all. But shifting the blame only makes
(20:10):
things worse.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
In general, we see that the HR person Kristen Cabot,
her name has been removed from the website, and Astronomer
is a publicly traded company so they have a board
of directors, so it remains to be seen what happens
here with respect to you know, these careers. But her
(20:32):
name has been taken off the website. The what Andy
Byron's wife on her social media presence has changed her
last name and removed her Instagram account. So that's all
we know so far. Get from a corporate sense, like
what what does this mean? What we can what can
we expect to play out?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Will does he have to resign?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That's a very good question. So here's the quantity of
the company is in right now. The HR person is able,
So she's off the website. They'll find somebody else, and
they have to because the HR person is supposed to
be the one that is basically the babysitter of the
company right making sure that people aren't having inappropriate relationships
(21:14):
with coworkers, the subordinates and so forth. And here she
is basically leading the charge in what you're not supposed
to do under the HR umbrella. So she's done. The
question is when does that lead the CEO? And if
you look at his bio and what he has brought
to the company, the board is going to be very
conflicted here because this is a person who's leading a
(21:35):
company worth one point three billion dollars and this guy
is those stranger to the field. He's led several leadership
roles before coming to this company, and he's got a
networth himself of about twenty to seventy million dollars. So
this is no small potato. They are not many of
people like this around that have his experience, intelligence, and ingenuity.
(21:58):
So I don't think it's going to be a clear
cut you're gone. I think what they're going to try
to do is to work out some sort of like
a rehabilitative approach or response where he's going to be
checking into a program of some sort or agreeing to
go to certain counseling or therapy and maybe maybe take
a sabbatical or some sort of a short term suspension
(22:20):
in order to do that introspection. But that's where I
see this going. I don't think he's just gone. In
the totality of this, what.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
About his wife? There has been chatter, a more than chatter.
There's been nothing but social media conversation about all of
this from people that claim to know personally and people
that I'm sure fake it. But there is the talk of, well, look,
if she wishes to get full custody and all the
(22:48):
money that goes along with that and care, she probably will.
But also there is this idea of being taken by
surprise and being embarrassed publicly, and that does bring about
a claim for emotional distress? Does this fit that definition?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The embarrassment that she's suffered and shock is probably immeasurable.
Everyone has to feel for her. So the issue is
what is she going to do next. There's two ways
of approaching this. One is they can try to repair
this marriage and go to counseling, which many people do.
This is not the first time that someone has had
(23:27):
an extra marital affair, so it may be one of
the first times the CEOs caught on the kiss cam
doing it. Yeah, but this ended up itself happens so,
and the alternative is if she wants to seek a
divorce and gore separate ways. The third option, I don't
see any super intentional affliction emotional disturce that we don't
see the family law context. That kind of funds or
(23:49):
separation or punishment so to speak, will be certainly sought
out within the context of the family law proceedings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Do you think there will be any I don't know,
paring down of the kiss cam thing. Do you think
this will cause, you know, stadiums and auditoriums to maybe
second get I mean, there's been a lot of fun
with this, but and I agree with you the idea
of shifting the blame onto coldplay is absurd, But he
attempted to do it, So I'm wondering if maybe we
(24:20):
will see that go away for fear of this becoming
you know, there has not been any negative blowback onto
Coldplay yet. There's been a bit though, and people say like, oh,
the worst part is that he was at a Coldplay concert.
I mean, so, I'm wondering if maybe, you know, people
might think this might not be a good idea after all.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Now, I think the kiss cam is going to be
alive and well after this. Most people looking at this
are going to take the position that this was no
fault of kiss Cam. It's the assumption of risk that
people take when they're married and hugging and kissing somebody
in public. Right, It's like you should have known better.
So for kiss cam to be punished or extinct as
(25:03):
a result, I don't think that's likely on this one.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Attorney lu Shapiro, thanks so much. I appreciate you. You're
busy today. A lot of people are talking about this.
Everybody's talking out at this. As I said, I got
up this morning working with Ray to put together all
the news that's happening in Los Angeles. There was an
explosion at seven thirty at the Sheriff's training facility of
the terrible loss of life. There three deputies, and I'm
(25:26):
trying to get more information and I can't get past
somebody else posting this kiss cam video of this guy,
the CEO at the Coldplay concert. So it is definitely
being talked about, all right, So coming up after the
top of the hour, we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh.
You hear her every Sunday at seven here on KFI
AM six forty. Because there is other layers to this, right,
(25:49):
I mean, there is the CEO and the HR director
and all of a sudden now they find themselves in
a romantic relationship. So does this now give pause to
everybody in corporate relationships to say, hey, make sure there
is clear delineation and separation because you people work close together,
(26:09):
you work eight hour days. There's this term out there
called my work wife. Maybe that's not a good idea
to use that kind of language anymore. On given this story,
we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh. Coming up following the
news at three o'clock. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt
on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
sixty The.
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John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John this afternoon,
Good to be with you. The two individuals in this
cold play kiss cam controversy have been placed on administrative
leave from the company. According to the website, the company
is Astronomer. He's not an astronomer. The company's name is
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Astronomer and it's a software development company. Hi, it's a
high tech company, one point three billion dollar tech company.
And he's the CEO and she was the hr person.
And they were at the concert and they're going around
the stadium and the two of them are canodling. I
guess it is the Is that the best way to
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put it. That's a canoodle. I mean they weren't making out,
but they were. She he was behind her, and she
was in front of him, and he had heard his
arms wrapped completely around her. And you'll see it for yourself.
It's impossible. I challenge you to open your phone and
not see a photograph of this. What's really fun is
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once they're busted, like they're the technique, I mean, the
solution doesn't work at all. He literally and he's he's
a looks like a tall drink of water. I would
say he's probably six foot six to one. And they're
like out of the out of the seats, literally up
against the railing of whatever level they are at this
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concert venue at the Gillette Staium I've never been, and
so like they're up against the railing and he just
basically sinks down to the ground, so he's out of
the camera shot, and she covers her face with both
hands and then turns around, but she doesn't really move.
So it probably would have passed and nobody would have
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noticed if it were not for their reaction of being
on the camera. Like if they just waved, he just
dropped his hands and waved, nobody would have filmed it.
Nobody would have noticed. But that was the problem, is
that the reaction was so dramatic and jarring that Coldplay
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singer Chris Martin couldn't help himself but say, like, oh god,
what's that all about. Either they're having an affair or
they're really shy, and the rest is history unbelievable. Coming up,
we'll talk with Dr Wendy Walsh. You hear Dr Wendy
Walsh every Sunday at seven here on KFIM six forty
will get her take on this. And there is another
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angle to this that I think is worthy of exploration,
and that is I've seen this happen not in my life,
but I have seen this happen in the corporate culture.
I certainly have seen this happen in politics, where I
spent fifteen years of my life. I've seen this and
I'm not making excuses for it. I'm not apologizing for
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the behavior. He got busted. They got busted. It happens.
Most people actually don't get busted. It goes on more
often than you think. And you know exactly what I'm
talking about. You've seen it at your office. Everyone has
had one of these experiences of observing it or suspecting
it and then years later finding out that they got married.
You're like, oh, I knew they were close. Like these
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are the kinds of things that happen the CEO, even
if the CEO is a genius, an electrical engineering genius.
Right when you become CEO an organization, your job is
not to write code or to be creative. Your job
is to oversee the company and to manage the creative people.
That you oversee, which means the operations guy is not
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really your second in command, your chief operating officer. You
wish you could spend more time with him, but you don't.
You spend most of your time with your HR person
because that's the huge time suck in any organization, including
the one that I current work for. Right. I mean,
you want to spend time with your CFO, but you
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only do that out of need if there's problems before
board meetings. No, the CEO has got to spend a
lot of time with human resources. That's where you have
legal exposure constantly, and often the human resources person is
a woman. Just seems to be the way it goes.
(30:54):
So if you're constantly in a meeting and constantly troubleshooting
and problem solving and coming up with creative problem solving,
you know, ideas, with your right hand man who is
a woman and comma, you're spending eight hours a day,
nine hours a day, ten hours a day, and maybe
forty hours a week with this person who you rely
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on to solve the real problems in any huge organization,
which are human resources right in the legal framework and
all the legal loopholes and everything that people are trying
to claim. They're constantly trying to claim, Oh, he sexually
harassed me, she sexually harassed me. The sexual harassment. I
don't like the joke that they told. And you're CEO
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of the company, You're trying to run a company, and
there's this all the childishness going on, and then you've
got to call the HR girl to come in again.
Explain to me where we are, what does the law say,
Get a hold of our attorney to find out what
the you know, the labor attorney, what she has to
say about it. I have seen this in organizations, and
the human condition is what it is. And when people
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start relying on each other and having each other solve,
having people solve each other's problems in the workplace, big problems,
you know, problems that come attached to zero's. If that
person solves your problems and she's the HR person, you
are just going to start feeling very indebted to that person,
and that indebtedness becomes a fondness, and then that fondness
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becomes romantic and the next thing you know, you're at
a Coldplay concert and everybody's looking at you. So, as
I said, I've seen this happen. We'll talk with doctor
Wendy Walsh about it coming up following the news at three.
You know who's an expert at getting on the camera
regardless of the venue. My twelve year old son. My
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twelve year old son always he has an unblemished record,
one hundred percent record when he is at a stadium.
He at the at Staples Center, he's there, he's got
some kind of a dance or something. He knows how
to do it. He has the right moves and he
knows where to go in the aisle to do his
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dance to wind up on the big jumbo tron at
Staples Center. Same thing just happened at the Angel Stadium
in Anaheim. Went to go I think it was I
got tickets for Father's Day from the boys, so I
have three sons and the four of us went and
it came time for you know, the camera to go
around the stadium and the kiss camera. They don't have
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a kiss camera there. It's just a camera to wave
your hat. And he knew it was the right time,
and he knew where to go. Got like eque distant
in the aisle, like in the middle of the aisle,
but halfway you know, up the stairs to the level
and did his little dance and wouldn't you know what,
he was up on the camera. So there are there
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are ways to get on that jumbocam when you want
to be on it, when you don't want to be
on it, don't be canodling with the HR Lady Lou
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