September 3, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (09/03) - Don Mihalek comes on the show to talk about the Secret Service being understaffed. More on how Kamala Harris's Secret Service detail was pulled by Pres. Trump. Gov. Newsom announced another task force! The Portland mayor doubled down and said city law enforcement will not help ICE.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
First of all, it's hard to believe it's over a
year since Trump got shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. Took a
bullet in the ear, and if you remember, the Secret
Service counter snipers. They took care of the attempted assassin
who somehow got on top of a warehouse rooftop by himself.
How he got up there and was unattended is one thing,
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but now that you know, the Secret Service shot him
and killed him. And the Department of Homeland Security has
an Inspector General and they did a report to see
what's going on with the Secret Service, and they found
that it's still chronically understaffed. They still have a serious
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shortage of counter snipers, even though the demand obviously is
increased quite a bit in this crazy era that we're
living in. We're going to talk with Don Mahallak, he's there,
the ABC News Law Enforcement contributor, and he's a retired
senior Secret Service agent.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We always like having him on to talk to him.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We're also going to talk about the Minneapolis shooting at
that school last week.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's get Don on. How are you, don Oo?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
John?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
How about you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm all right?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It would is it really difficult to hire counter snipers?
I mean, I don't know this business, but it seems
like you'd have people lining up out the door wanting
to help out the country to work and protect Trump
and everybody else. We certainly have a lot of people
trained and ex military.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's hard. What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why is there a chronic shortage of counter snipers for
the Secret Service?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, you could have a lot of people lined up
that want to do the job, but chances aren't a
little down to a select few that can actually do
the job. Because the count of sniper position and a
Secret Service is unique because of the authority and the
judgment you have to have to do that job. It's
not like any other law enforcement or I would dare
say military sniper position. Because the Secret Service counter snipers
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have a wide range of not only what they have
to do prior to the protective event and what they're
doing as a protective event, conducting that overwatch over the protectees,
and ultimately making a judgment CaAl of whether to use
lethal force or not on a long distance object amongst
a crowd of innocent people and a protectee, in some
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cases the President of the United States. So it's a
critical staffing need for the Secret Service that always has been.
It's always difficult to staff. It's always been difficult to
staff the counter sniper position because the demands and the
strain on the individuals when they're in that position. Hopefully
the Secret Service might look into some other law enforcement
agencies that have snipers and the military have snipers and
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maybe create a pipeline, so to speak, to bring them
in because even once they're hired by the Secret Service,
it's almost a three year training process to get somebody
up to speed to be operational. So it's not it's
not an easy position to recruit for. It's not an
easy position to keep people in.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So even if they've worked as a counter sniper for
another law enforcement unit, they still need extensive training to
be with the Secret Service.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yes, most other law enforcement agencies call their snipers snipers.
The Secret Service is one of the few that calls
it a counter sniper because their job is to look
for snipers and to take out potential snipers or attackers
versus most law enforcement agencies who have a sniper, they're
not looking at. They're looking at to cover, you know,
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a tactical situation for a law enforcement a law enforcement organization.
So it's a slightly nuanced different job, a lot more
freedom than your traditional law enforcement sniper positions.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I guess you need some intelligence capabilities to be
able to identify a possible sniper.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Early on, well, I was on the.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Roof of the White House. I was on the roof
of the White House once and one of the count
of snipers said to me, don if you look down
at the Pennsylvania Avenue, it looks like it's far, but
somebody can cross the lawn of the White House in
a matter of seconds, and we have to take a
shot at a moving object that's about the size of
a dime, and often amongst a crowd of people.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is slightly off topic, but did you see the
other day that some Ukrainian soldier, a sniper took out
a Russian from two miles away.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, we've had we've had those type of tales two
out of Iraq and Afghanistan. I think there was a
Navy seal sniper that took out a terrorist on a
two mile shot too, because of the type of rifle
they're using.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So I mean that kind of thing must keep Secret
Service people up at night, that there might be some
crazy person out there from two miles out.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, And that goes to the Secret Service advance process
and why it's so important not only to conduct a
thrower advance process and to institute those three rings of
protection at the Secret Service institutes, but also to make
sure that you have the counter snipers available to provide
that overwatch that are looking outward at the mets at
something like that, to make sure if they see a
threat like that, it can be addressed early on versus
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too late, as we saw on Butler.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All Right, the other story I wanted to talk about
with you, and I'm sure by now everybody's heard about this.
It was that Annunciation Catholic School last week in Minneapolis.
It was a twenty three or old woman who had
been a man. It was a trans woman named Robin
Westman and he used to go to this school. His
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mother worked at the church, and he showed up and
killed two kids and wounded eighteen others. And it turns out,
like so many times, he left behind a huge amount
of evidence. He'd been posting YouTube videos, violent YouTube videos,
and dozens of pages of notes were on the videos,
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handwritten journals, videos of high powered weapons, notebooks, you know,
all kinds of crazy stuff. And they were sitting out
there and playing sight on YouTube. And it's you get
these predictable responses. But it seems like every time this happens,
these these these killers left behind a wealth of evidence
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to damaged right that how insane and violent they were,
and still you can't seem to stop these shootings.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You've got a couple of things going on. Number one,
post COVID twenty twenty, you know, we released mental people
out of mental health institutions all around the country. You
had a fear of them dying from COVID, so you
flooded the streets and you release people that were hospitalized
for mental health issues, and that you know, you're not
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pulling them back at the hospitals now, right, they're out
they're out on the street whatever, and not just say
all of them are violent, but you know, you released
a whole range of people who are now not having treatment.
And in a case of an individual like this, like
like in Minnesota, my guess is that they've had mental
health crisis for years and it has never been properly addressed.
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It's never been it's never been handled. Probably the parents.
Typically in these situations, the parents are in denial or
in some cases the parents are enablers, which is why
I think they serve to warrant on the mother's house already,
and they're looking at some of the stuff involving the mother,
so you know, so she could potentially face charges like
that couple up in the I think it was up
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in the Michigan or did So. You know, you have
parents that are enablers, who aren't looking at their children
and and really doing that that hard look and go,
look there's something wrong here. We really need to get
our arms wrapped around this. That's number one, and number two.
The other problem is, you know, there was still gaps
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in the federal background check system when it comes to
mental health. It's still one of these things that's out
there that nobody really wants to adequately adequately address because
you have to have a judge rule that somebody is
mentally incompetent before they can be put into the background
check system and and be one of the ten list
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of people that aren't allowed to purchase firearms. If that
doesn't happen, even if somebody's facing depression, is on medications
and whatnot, if they're not a judgmentally incompetent, weakly, if
they've had no other crimes, they're able to purchase a firearm.
And now you're putting the firearm dealers and FFL is
in his position. If somebody like that walks in, they
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can't tell if the person's dealing with a mental crisis
or not, and they're going through their process, they clear
the background check and have to selling them a gun,
which is what happened with this person. We need to
figure out a way that if somebody is having a
mental crisis, is in a significant depression, expressing suicidal, homicidal,
whatso whatever, that there is some way, whether it's a
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red flag law or something that can happen to be
able to put this people into the box. So at
least that way they're not going to pass a background
check if they're walking into a firearm.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Shop, because this is the one issue we can't need
to get any level of government to address.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
No, it's and it's really, it's really striking because in
a lot of these cases, it's individuals like this who
have significant mental health violent tendencies who are able to
access the gun legally. That should not happen. And it's
going to take an all of government approach to figure
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out how do we balance the mental health piece of
this where we protect people's rights, but we also protect
the rest of the public.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Don thanks for coming on again.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Thanks to John, ABC News law enforcement contributor and a
retired Secret Service agent Senior.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Secret Service Agent. It keeps kidding. We got more coming up.
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your role in this program.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Or we're just talking with Don Mahallack.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He's the from ABC News and he's a former senior
Secret Service agent. We're talking about why after a year,
Secret Service still is short on counter snipers, like the
guys who blew away there would be assassin on the
roof in Butler, Pennsylvania who was shot Trump in the year.
They they they're just short and they're always short. And
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don explain those reasons. And if you've missed it, that's
what the podcast is for later. But another related story
is Kamala Harris is out hawking her book and I
watched one interview of her and she said absolutely nothing.
I'm thinking this book all the pages are blank.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think it's an empty book.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
As soon as she was about to go on her
book tour, Trump revoked her Secret Service protection and some
people said, well, that's me and that's dangerous. It's like, well, wait,
by the law, Vice presidents and their families get Secret
Service protection only while in office. Technically on January twentieth,
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it's over.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
There is a six month grace period in which vice
presidents and their family can remain under Secret Service watch.
But you're supposed to come up with your own security provisions.
In the meantime, you're supposed to figure it out, and
after six months it really is over. Well, she was
still living off Joe Biden. Biden announced that she was
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going to get an extension, and Trump provoked it because
he didn't think taxpayers ought to pay while she trapeses
around the country promoting all the nonsense in her book.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And he's got a point.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Biden had extended Harris' protection eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Biden also extended protection of his family, including this is
according to Trump. I don't know if this is true,
but Trump claims there were eighteen agents assigned to Hunter
Biden when he went to South Africa this week, and
Hunter Biden ought to be in a federal prison insteadies
in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Maybe he's shaking down the political leaders there, but he
couldn't possibly get eighteen agents. That that must have been
Trump exaggeration. He also claimed Ashley Biden had thirteen agents
the daughter assigned to her detail, because Biden had extended
that as well.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Now that was.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Trump said that he was going to end the secret
Service protection to Biden's adult children. Boy, if there's one
guy who does not deserve our taxpayer money to protect
his sorry body, that's Hunter Biden. So Harris is without
a taxpayer paid security team. And guess who stepped in,
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Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is assigning CHP officers to protect Harris.
I guess that's only inn lair do they go on
the book tour. They assigned her dignitary status, that's what
it's called. The CHP provides the security after Newsom granted
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Kama dignitary status.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So we got to pay for this. Kamala and her
husband are really rich.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Her husband works for the biggest law firms in Los Angeles,
you know, when he's not slapping his old girlfriends around.
Harris is going to rely on private security, all right.
So yeah, she had private security lined up, and now
Newsom stepped in and gave her taxpayer paid security with
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the CHP.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I thought the CHP.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'd read today that they're going to be helping out
removing homeless encampments. So how they're taking off that duty
to protect Harris while she pedals her bs in the book.
Good lord, but what a terribly corrupt situation. She has
tons of money. I've driven by her house all right.
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She wanted to have you know, thirty security agents surrounding
her twenty four to seven. She and her husband have
the money. We shouldn't be paying for it. But hey,
you're working right now, well, some of your money is
going to protect her on the book tour.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
More coming up.
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you missed. I'd mentioned before that Gavin Newsom is using
CHP officers to give Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris security protection
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because her secret service expired.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She already got.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
A six month bonus that she's not entitled to, and
then Biden was going to give her a longer term
and Trump push Trump cut it off.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I think that's a good argument there.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We shouldn't have to pay for security for Kamala Harris's
book tour while whilst she goes around trying to explain
why she did nothing as Vice president and never said
what she was going to do as president other than
continue the Joe Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I wondered because.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I had read somewhere that the CHP had other duties
that Newsom is giving them, and that is true. I
don't know they're distracted by Kamala Harris security. But he
had announced I guess over the weekend. Well, actually they
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just announced this yesterday, a statewide task force.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To clear to clear homeless encampments. Oh my god, he.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Actually announced a task force again, a task force to
clear homeless encampment, encampments and expanse services in California, it's
ten largest cities. Ah, you see running for president talking
point when somebody nails him a candidate or any media
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outside the state of California, it says, almost this is
at an all time high, and you blew twenty four
billion dollars and you don't know where it went, and
you have like half the homeless of the nation. Well,
don't you know, I started a task force and the
CHP is part of the task force. Listen to this,
(18:35):
Listen to this. He actually says this in a statement.
California has put in place a strong, comprehensive strategy for
fighting the national homelessness and housing crisis, and it's outperforming
the nation as a result. In turning this issue around.
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He's actually serious. He thinks this is a national crisis
and not a California crisis. Hang huh, let me type
something into Google. Google here, California leads nation in holmlessness.
This might not lead anywhere, but I just want to see. Uh, well,
(19:18):
but help if I could type that's like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are the slowest typer I've ever met. I've watched him
and I've actually taken over.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Number that one time we were sending an email to
somebody and I.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Just thank you. That was entirely unnecessary. I thought it
was very necessary. You brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I see, Okay, I finally got it in although I
misspelled California, but Google figured this out. California leads the
nation in homelessness, I wrote in and here you go
from the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. California has
the largest homelessness number in the nation, at one hundred
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and eighty seven thousand in twenty twenty four. To make
things worse, the state has a high rate of unsheltered homelessness,
a large share which is single men. That's just the
like the AI summary of this Stanford Institute.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Research paper that they had produced.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's all you have to do. You have to go
to Google and find out. Gavin Newsom is telling a big,
fat lie. California has put in place a strong, comprehensive
strategy and it's outperforming the nation as a result in
turning this issue around, fighting the national homelessness and housing crisis.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He is so shameless. It took well, I was.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Gonna say it took a few seconds and took me
a little longer because I type so slow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Thanks reporting that out. You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Then he says, no one should live in a dangerous
or unsanitary encampment.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
He's been governor, he's been.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Covered for almost seven full years, and everything has gotten
worse and worse and worse. Go look at the homelessness
numbers in twenty eighteen. When did he take over? Was
twenty eighteen? Yeah, right, yeah, in twenty eighteen, Jerry Brown
was still governor. Oh I got to look up those
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homeless numbers and sometime in September, you know, within the
next few weeks, La San Diego, Long Beach, Anaheim is
going to get one of these task forces, it's called
a Safe task Force. They wanted the acronyms safe. So
the official title is the State Action for Facilitation on Encampments.
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So they come up with something incomprehensible, so it produces
the word they want as an acronym. Because last year
the Supreme Court ruled that you can ban living on
public property. So now fifteen months later, he's got a
task force making a claim it is not a national problem.
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Trust me, there are cities that have homelessness issues too,
most of them on the West Coast because they're left wing,
progressive hell holes. But you go out to normal America,
like I said, I went, I've gone through four cities,
went through four cities last week. There's no problem in
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most cities in the southeast. No oh, and you know tomorrow,
I'm going to get through get through this. Last in
twenty twenty two, he launched that Care program. That thing
has been a complete failure. This was supposed to put
homeless people and mental patients into custodial programs and it's
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been a complete failure. So now he's got another task
force that's going to be a failure. But he's got
look at all these agencies, the California Office of Emergency, Business,
Consumer and Housing Agency, California Interagency Council, and Homelessness will offer.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Guidance to local governments.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
These are the organizations that lost the twenty four billion
that they can't find. Health and Human Services, caltrans Highway Patrol.
Between twenty fourteen and twenty nineteen, unsheltered homelessness increased in
California by thirty seven thousand people. That's in the years
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leading up to Newsom, and then it went up even more.
Now he's trying to say the homeless increase is less
than other states homeless increase, but other states are starting
from a very low number. Since we have such a
huge number, the percentage increases are going to be small.
The number of bodies, though, is tremendous.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Such a fraud, all.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
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They've had a lot of violence in Portland. I mentioned
before that much of the country has little homelessness except
the West coast cities which are run by destructive, idiotic progressives,
and it's true in Portland and in Seattle and in
Portland they have had a lot of ugly violent incidents,
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several of them on Monday labored because they have a
detention facility that ICE runs in town and there's all
these You know, Portland is like the home of Antifa.
Remember they burned Portland for weeks and weeks in the
summer of twenty twenty and the last baron mayor never
stopped it. Well, they have a new Moron mayor named
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Keith Wilson, and he's not stopping this kind of violence.
In fact, he's reaffirming that he's not cooperating with ICE.
Here is a report from KOI N Channel six CBS
in Portland, Lisa Bailick.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Side the ICE Field office in Portland South Waterfront, protesters
who want the detention center there shut down, clashing with
federal agents in the street and on the sidewalk out
front protesters that set up a mock guillatine started a fire.
Federal agents were heard warning the crowd to leave the
restricted area or faced attention, arrest or chemical weapons. At
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one point, ice officers deployed chemical munich. Today I talked
one on one with Portland Mayor Wilson about the strong
possibility federal troops could arrive in Portland like they have
in LA and DC to crack down on immigration and protests.
He says, Portland is getting ready. How do you prepare
for this possibility.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
We are really working with everybody in the city. We're
working with our congressional delegates. We're working on what we
can do responsibly to protect our citizens, to protect Portlanders,
and so we have tabletop exercises to determining what our
next responses are to this overreach and overreaction.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Tabletop exercises are discussions where they work through scenarios testing
emergency response. The mayor emphasizing Portland and Oregon will stand
behind their sanctuary status and not have law officers assist
with federal immigration enforcement.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
You have the line in the sand when it comes
to Portland police.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
We're working with them to determine what that response will be,
but we will not engage with the federal immigration enforcement
that goes on. That is our sanctuary city goals. That's
what the governor's goals are. And so you can rest
assure we won't be engaging or working with ICE in
any circumstances.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Now, we did reach out to ICE and have not
heard back. We were trying to find out how many
people were arrested of any last night. Also, we checked
in with Portland Police today. They tell me that they
were monitoring the situation down here last night, but they
were not involved in any enforcement.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, here's some more details from Fox News. First of all,
nothing funnier than this weenie mayor saying, we have tabletop
exercises to determine what our next responses are. Trump's going
to send it the National Guard, hopefully the Marines too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And we have tabletop exercises.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
My god, where these people come from and how do
they get voted in again and again?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So now there's all sorts of violent mayhem going on.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Outside this uh, outside this ICE detention center.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
These are I read.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
The other day there's now a group that's nuttier than Antifa.
I don't know what it's called, but apparently Antifa is
a bunch of sissies. Compared to these guys, and they're
allowed to do whatever they want and assault a federal building. Now,
if they do that, Trump will send in the National Guard. Well,
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you know, we have the tabletop exercises to plan our response.
There is no response.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They're gonna, they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What do you want to war between your law enforcement
and the National Guard?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You want a shooting war.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You're out ranked, outnumbered, and they're enforcing federal law and
you have no say.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What's this mayor's name again, Keith Wilson.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
There have been anti ICE protesters since June. They try
to stop law enforcement from entering and exiting the detention center,
so the agents have to shoot rubber bullets, tear gas,
and flash bangs. Since June. Demonstrators are burning a plat,
burning the flag before law enforcement fired stuff at them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I get some mustard gas out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Meantime, the protesters yelled through loudspeakers, you are sad excuses
for human beings. You guys are violent, cowardly pigs, the
d You know what these are all like upper middle
class white kids. There's a whole species, some six psychological
species going on. National Guard comes, it's gonna be like
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La you're gonna see things get cleared up real fast.
And this mayor is an absolute one. We're doing tabletop
exercises like when you know, we were kids and you
put little toy soldiers on your kitchen table and you
simulate a war. All right, Codways up next and Michael
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
First of all, it's hard to believe it's over a
year since Trump got shot in Butler, Pennsylvania. Took a
bullet in the ear, and if you remember, the Secret
Service counter snipers. They took care of the attempted assassin
who somehow got on top of a warehouse rooftop by himself.
How he got up there and was unattended is one thing,
(00:47):
but now that you know, the Secret Service shot him
and killed him. And the Department of Homeland Security has
an Inspector General and they did a report to see
what's going on with the Secret Service, and they found
that it's still chronically understaffed. They still have a serious
(01:09):
shortage of counter snipers, even though the demand obviously is
increased quite a bit in this crazy era that we're
living in. We're going to talk with Don Mahallak, he's there,
the ABC News Law Enforcement contributor, and he's a retired
senior Secret Service agent.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
We always like having him on to talk to him.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We're also going to talk about the Minneapolis shooting at
that school last week.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's get Don on. How are you, don Oo?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
John?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
How about you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm all right?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It would is it really difficult to hire counter snipers?
I mean, I don't know this business, but it seems
like you'd have people lining up out the door wanting
to help out the country to work and protect Trump
and everybody else. We certainly have a lot of people
trained and ex military.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's hard. What's wrong?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Why is there a chronic shortage of counter snipers for
the Secret Service?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, you could have a lot of people lined up
that want to do the job, but chances aren't a
little down to a select few that can actually do
the job. Because the count of sniper position and a
Secret Service is unique because of the authority and the
judgment you have to have to do that job. It's
not like any other law enforcement or I would dare
say military sniper position. Because the Secret Service counter snipers
(02:29):
have a wide range of not only what they have
to do prior to the protective event and what they're
doing as a protective event, conducting that overwatch over the protectees,
and ultimately making a judgment CaAl of whether to use
lethal force or not on a long distance object amongst
a crowd of innocent people and a protectee, in some
(02:51):
cases the President of the United States. So it's a
critical staffing need for the Secret Service that always has been.
It's always difficult to staff. It's always been difficult to
staff the counter sniper position because the demands and the
strain on the individuals when they're in that position. Hopefully
the Secret Service might look into some other law enforcement
agencies that have snipers and the military have snipers and
(03:13):
maybe create a pipeline, so to speak, to bring them
in because even once they're hired by the Secret Service,
it's almost a three year training process to get somebody
up to speed to be operational. So it's not it's
not an easy position to recruit for. It's not an
easy position to keep people in.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So even if they've worked as a counter sniper for
another law enforcement unit, they still need extensive training to
be with the Secret Service.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yes, most other law enforcement agencies call their snipers snipers.
The Secret Service is one of the few that calls
it a counter sniper because their job is to look
for snipers and to take out potential snipers or attackers
versus most law enforcement agencies who have a sniper, they're
not looking at. They're looking at to cover, you know,
(04:03):
a tactical situation for a law enforcement a law enforcement organization.
So it's a slightly nuanced different job, a lot more
freedom than your traditional law enforcement sniper positions.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And I guess you need some intelligence capabilities to be
able to identify a possible sniper.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Early on, well, I was on the.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Roof of the White House. I was on the roof
of the White House once and one of the count
of snipers said to me, don if you look down
at the Pennsylvania Avenue, it looks like it's far, but
somebody can cross the lawn of the White House in
a matter of seconds, and we have to take a
shot at a moving object that's about the size of
a dime, and often amongst a crowd of people.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This is slightly off topic, but did you see the
other day that some Ukrainian soldier, a sniper took out
a Russian from two miles away.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, we've had we've had those type of tales two
out of Iraq and Afghanistan. I think there was a
Navy seal sniper that took out a terrorist on a
two mile shot too, because of the type of rifle
they're using.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So I mean that kind of thing must keep Secret
Service people up at night, that there might be some
crazy person out there from two miles out.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, And that goes to the Secret Service advance process
and why it's so important not only to conduct a
thrower advance process and to institute those three rings of
protection at the Secret Service institutes, but also to make
sure that you have the counter snipers available to provide
that overwatch that are looking outward at the mets at
something like that, to make sure if they see a
threat like that, it can be addressed early on versus
(05:46):
too late, as we saw on Butler.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All Right, the other story I wanted to talk about
with you, and I'm sure by now everybody's heard about this.
It was that Annunciation Catholic School last week in Minneapolis.
It was a twenty three or old woman who had
been a man. It was a trans woman named Robin
Westman and he used to go to this school. His
(06:10):
mother worked at the church, and he showed up and
killed two kids and wounded eighteen others. And it turns out,
like so many times, he left behind a huge amount
of evidence. He'd been posting YouTube videos, violent YouTube videos,
and dozens of pages of notes were on the videos,
(06:34):
handwritten journals, videos of high powered weapons, notebooks, you know,
all kinds of crazy stuff. And they were sitting out
there and playing sight on YouTube. And it's you get
these predictable responses. But it seems like every time this happens,
these these these killers left behind a wealth of evidence
(06:59):
to damaged right that how insane and violent they were,
and still you can't seem to stop these shootings.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm well, I mean.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You've got a couple of things going on. Number one,
post COVID twenty twenty, you know, we released mental people
out of mental health institutions all around the country. You
had a fear of them dying from COVID, so you
flooded the streets and you release people that were hospitalized
for mental health issues, and that you know, you're not
(07:33):
pulling them back at the hospitals now, right, they're out
they're out on the street whatever, and not just say
all of them are violent, but you know, you released
a whole range of people who are now not having treatment.
And in a case of an individual like this, like
like in Minnesota, my guess is that they've had mental
health crisis for years and it has never been properly addressed.
(07:56):
It's never been it's never been handled. Probably the parents.
Typically in these situations, the parents are in denial or
in some cases the parents are enablers, which is why
I think they serve to warrant on the mother's house already,
and they're looking at some of the stuff involving the mother,
so you know, so she could potentially face charges like
that couple up in the I think it was up
(08:17):
in the Michigan or did So. You know, you have
parents that are enablers, who aren't looking at their children
and and really doing that that hard look and go,
look there's something wrong here. We really need to get
our arms wrapped around this. That's number one, and number two.
The other problem is, you know, there was still gaps
(08:38):
in the federal background check system when it comes to
mental health. It's still one of these things that's out
there that nobody really wants to adequately adequately address because
you have to have a judge rule that somebody is
mentally incompetent before they can be put into the background
check system and and be one of the ten list
(09:01):
of people that aren't allowed to purchase firearms. If that
doesn't happen, even if somebody's facing depression, is on medications
and whatnot, if they're not a judgmentally incompetent, weakly, if
they've had no other crimes, they're able to purchase a firearm.
And now you're putting the firearm dealers and FFL is
in his position. If somebody like that walks in, they
(09:21):
can't tell if the person's dealing with a mental crisis
or not, and they're going through their process, they clear
the background check and have to selling them a gun,
which is what happened with this person. We need to
figure out a way that if somebody is having a
mental crisis, is in a significant depression, expressing suicidal, homicidal,
whatso whatever, that there is some way, whether it's a
(09:42):
red flag law or something that can happen to be
able to put this people into the box. So at
least that way they're not going to pass a background
check if they're walking into a firearm.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Shop, because this is the one issue we can't need
to get any level of government to address.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
No, it's and it's really, it's really striking because in
a lot of these cases, it's individuals like this who
have significant mental health violent tendencies who are able to
access the gun legally. That should not happen. And it's
going to take an all of government approach to figure
(10:17):
out how do we balance the mental health piece of
this where we protect people's rights, but we also protect
the rest of the public.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Don thanks for coming on again.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Thanks to John, ABC News law enforcement contributor and a
retired Secret Service agent Senior.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Secret Service Agent. It keeps kidding. We got more coming up.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
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(11:10):
your role in this program.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Or we're just talking with Don Mahallack.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
He's the from ABC News and he's a former senior
Secret Service agent. We're talking about why after a year,
Secret Service still is short on counter snipers, like the
guys who blew away there would be assassin on the
roof in Butler, Pennsylvania who was shot Trump in the year.
They they they're just short and they're always short. And
(11:37):
don explain those reasons. And if you've missed it, that's
what the podcast is for later. But another related story
is Kamala Harris is out hawking her book and I
watched one interview of her and she said absolutely nothing.
I'm thinking this book all the pages are blank.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think it's an empty book.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
As soon as she was about to go on her
book tour, Trump revoked her Secret Service protection and some
people said, well, that's me and that's dangerous. It's like, well, wait,
by the law, Vice presidents and their families get Secret
Service protection only while in office. Technically on January twentieth,
(12:26):
it's over.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
There is a six month grace period in which vice
presidents and their family can remain under Secret Service watch.
But you're supposed to come up with your own security provisions.
In the meantime, you're supposed to figure it out, and
after six months it really is over. Well, she was
still living off Joe Biden. Biden announced that she was
(12:54):
going to get an extension, and Trump provoked it because
he didn't think taxpayers ought to pay while she trapeses
around the country promoting all the nonsense in her book.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And he's got a point.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Biden had extended Harris' protection eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Biden also extended protection of his family, including this is
according to Trump. I don't know if this is true,
but Trump claims there were eighteen agents assigned to Hunter
Biden when he went to South Africa this week, and
Hunter Biden ought to be in a federal prison insteadies
in South Africa.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Maybe he's shaking down the political leaders there, but he
couldn't possibly get eighteen agents. That that must have been
Trump exaggeration. He also claimed Ashley Biden had thirteen agents
the daughter assigned to her detail, because Biden had extended
that as well.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Now that was.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Trump said that he was going to end the secret
Service protection to Biden's adult children. Boy, if there's one
guy who does not deserve our taxpayer money to protect
his sorry body, that's Hunter Biden. So Harris is without
a taxpayer paid security team. And guess who stepped in,
(14:23):
Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom is assigning CHP officers to protect Harris.
I guess that's only inn lair do they go on
the book tour. They assigned her dignitary status, that's what
it's called. The CHP provides the security after Newsom granted
(14:48):
Kama dignitary status.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So we got to pay for this. Kamala and her
husband are really rich.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Her husband works for the biggest law firms in Los Angeles,
you know, when he's not slapping his old girlfriends around.
Harris is going to rely on private security, all right.
So yeah, she had private security lined up, and now
Newsom stepped in and gave her taxpayer paid security with
(15:22):
the CHP.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I thought the CHP.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'd read today that they're going to be helping out
removing homeless encampments. So how they're taking off that duty
to protect Harris while she pedals her bs in the book.
Good lord, but what a terribly corrupt situation. She has
tons of money. I've driven by her house all right.
(15:49):
She wanted to have you know, thirty security agents surrounding
her twenty four to seven. She and her husband have
the money. We shouldn't be paying for it. But hey,
you're working right now, well, some of your money is
going to protect her on the book tour.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
More coming up.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
You're listening to John Cobbel's on demand from KFI A six.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
We're on every day from one until four, and then
after four o'clock they post the John Cobelt Show on
demand podcast and then you can pick up on whatever
you missed. I'd mentioned before that Gavin Newsom is using
CHP officers to give Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris security protection
(16:32):
because her secret service expired.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She already got.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
A six month bonus that she's not entitled to, and
then Biden was going to give her a longer term
and Trump push Trump cut it off.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I think that's a good argument there.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We shouldn't have to pay for security for Kamala Harris's
book tour while whilst she goes around trying to explain
why she did nothing as Vice president and never said
what she was going to do as president other than
continue the Joe Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I wondered because.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I had read somewhere that the CHP had other duties
that Newsom is giving them, and that is true. I
don't know they're distracted by Kamala Harris security. But he
had announced I guess over the weekend. Well, actually they
(17:33):
just announced this yesterday, a statewide task force.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To clear to clear homeless encampments. Oh my god, he.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Actually announced a task force again, a task force to
clear homeless encampment, encampments and expanse services in California, it's
ten largest cities. Ah, you see running for president talking
point when somebody nails him a candidate or any media
(18:09):
outside the state of California, it says, almost this is
at an all time high, and you blew twenty four
billion dollars and you don't know where it went, and
you have like half the homeless of the nation. Well,
don't you know, I started a task force and the
CHP is part of the task force. Listen to this,
(18:35):
Listen to this. He actually says this in a statement.
California has put in place a strong, comprehensive strategy for
fighting the national homelessness and housing crisis, and it's outperforming
the nation as a result. In turning this issue around.
(18:55):
He's actually serious. He thinks this is a national crisis
and not a California crisis. Hang huh, let me type
something into Google. Google here, California leads nation in holmlessness.
This might not lead anywhere, but I just want to see. Uh, well,
(19:18):
but help if I could type that's like, you.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Are the slowest typer I've ever met. I've watched him
and I've actually taken over.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Number that one time we were sending an email to
somebody and I.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Just thank you. That was entirely unnecessary. I thought it
was very necessary. You brought it up.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I see, Okay, I finally got it in although I
misspelled California, but Google figured this out. California leads the
nation in homelessness, I wrote in and here you go
from the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. California has
the largest homelessness number in the nation, at one hundred
(20:09):
and eighty seven thousand in twenty twenty four. To make
things worse, the state has a high rate of unsheltered homelessness,
a large share which is single men. That's just the
like the AI summary of this Stanford Institute.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Research paper that they had produced.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's all you have to do. You have to go
to Google and find out. Gavin Newsom is telling a big,
fat lie. California has put in place a strong, comprehensive
strategy and it's outperforming the nation as a result in
turning this issue around, fighting the national homelessness and housing crisis.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He is so shameless. It took well, I was.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Gonna say it took a few seconds and took me
a little longer because I type so slow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Thanks reporting that out. You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Then he says, no one should live in a dangerous
or unsanitary encampment.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
He's been governor, he's been.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Covered for almost seven full years, and everything has gotten
worse and worse and worse. Go look at the homelessness
numbers in twenty eighteen. When did he take over? Was
twenty eighteen? Yeah, right, yeah, in twenty eighteen, Jerry Brown
was still governor. Oh I got to look up those
(21:29):
homeless numbers and sometime in September, you know, within the
next few weeks, La San Diego, Long Beach, Anaheim is
going to get one of these task forces, it's called
a Safe task Force. They wanted the acronyms safe. So
the official title is the State Action for Facilitation on Encampments.
(21:50):
So they come up with something incomprehensible, so it produces
the word they want as an acronym. Because last year
the Supreme Court ruled that you can ban living on
public property. So now fifteen months later, he's got a
task force making a claim it is not a national problem.
(22:12):
Trust me, there are cities that have homelessness issues too,
most of them on the West Coast because they're left wing,
progressive hell holes. But you go out to normal America,
like I said, I went, I've gone through four cities,
went through four cities last week. There's no problem in
(22:32):
most cities in the southeast. No oh, and you know tomorrow,
I'm going to get through get through this. Last in
twenty twenty two, he launched that Care program. That thing
has been a complete failure. This was supposed to put
homeless people and mental patients into custodial programs and it's
(22:59):
been a complete failure. So now he's got another task
force that's going to be a failure. But he's got
look at all these agencies, the California Office of Emergency, Business,
Consumer and Housing Agency, California Interagency Council, and Homelessness will offer.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Guidance to local governments.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
These are the organizations that lost the twenty four billion
that they can't find. Health and Human Services, caltrans Highway Patrol.
Between twenty fourteen and twenty nineteen, unsheltered homelessness increased in
California by thirty seven thousand people. That's in the years
(23:41):
leading up to Newsom, and then it went up even more.
Now he's trying to say the homeless increase is less
than other states homeless increase, but other states are starting
from a very low number. Since we have such a
huge number, the percentage increases are going to be small.
The number of bodies, though, is tremendous.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Such a fraud, all.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
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(24:32):
They've had a lot of violence in Portland. I mentioned
before that much of the country has little homelessness except
the West coast cities which are run by destructive, idiotic progressives,
and it's true in Portland and in Seattle and in
Portland they have had a lot of ugly violent incidents,
(24:58):
several of them on Monday labored because they have a
detention facility that ICE runs in town and there's all
these You know, Portland is like the home of Antifa.
Remember they burned Portland for weeks and weeks in the
summer of twenty twenty and the last baron mayor never
stopped it. Well, they have a new Moron mayor named
(25:19):
Keith Wilson, and he's not stopping this kind of violence.
In fact, he's reaffirming that he's not cooperating with ICE.
Here is a report from KOI N Channel six CBS
in Portland, Lisa Bailick.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Side the ICE Field office in Portland South Waterfront, protesters
who want the detention center there shut down, clashing with
federal agents in the street and on the sidewalk out
front protesters that set up a mock guillatine started a fire.
Federal agents were heard warning the crowd to leave the
restricted area or faced attention, arrest or chemical weapons. At
(25:57):
one point, ice officers deployed chemical munich. Today I talked
one on one with Portland Mayor Wilson about the strong
possibility federal troops could arrive in Portland like they have
in LA and DC to crack down on immigration and protests.
He says, Portland is getting ready. How do you prepare
for this possibility.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
We are really working with everybody in the city. We're
working with our congressional delegates. We're working on what we
can do responsibly to protect our citizens, to protect Portlanders,
and so we have tabletop exercises to determining what our
next responses are to this overreach and overreaction.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Tabletop exercises are discussions where they work through scenarios testing
emergency response. The mayor emphasizing Portland and Oregon will stand
behind their sanctuary status and not have law officers assist
with federal immigration enforcement.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
You have the line in the sand when it comes
to Portland police.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
We're working with them to determine what that response will be,
but we will not engage with the federal immigration enforcement
that goes on. That is our sanctuary city goals. That's
what the governor's goals are. And so you can rest
assure we won't be engaging or working with ICE in
any circumstances.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Now, we did reach out to ICE and have not
heard back. We were trying to find out how many
people were arrested of any last night. Also, we checked
in with Portland Police today. They tell me that they
were monitoring the situation down here last night, but they
were not involved in any enforcement.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Okay, here's some more details from Fox News. First of all,
nothing funnier than this weenie mayor saying, we have tabletop
exercises to determine what our next responses are. Trump's going
to send it the National Guard, hopefully the Marines too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And we have tabletop exercises.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
My god, where these people come from and how do
they get voted in again and again?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
So now there's all sorts of violent mayhem going on.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Outside this uh, outside this ICE detention center.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
These are I read.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
The other day there's now a group that's nuttier than Antifa.
I don't know what it's called, but apparently Antifa is
a bunch of sissies. Compared to these guys, and they're
allowed to do whatever they want and assault a federal building. Now,
if they do that, Trump will send in the National Guard. Well,
(28:32):
you know, we have the tabletop exercises to plan our response.
There is no response.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They're gonna, they're gonna.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
What do you want to war between your law enforcement
and the National Guard?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You want a shooting war.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
You're out ranked, outnumbered, and they're enforcing federal law and
you have no say.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What's this mayor's name again, Keith Wilson.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
There have been anti ICE protesters since June. They try
to stop law enforcement from entering and exiting the detention center,
so the agents have to shoot rubber bullets, tear gas,
and flash bangs. Since June. Demonstrators are burning a plat,
burning the flag before law enforcement fired stuff at them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I get some mustard gas out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Meantime, the protesters yelled through loudspeakers, you are sad excuses
for human beings. You guys are violent, cowardly pigs, the
d You know what these are all like upper middle
class white kids. There's a whole species, some six psychological
species going on. National Guard comes, it's gonna be like
(29:44):
La you're gonna see things get cleared up real fast.
And this mayor is an absolute one. We're doing tabletop
exercises like when you know, we were kids and you
put little toy soldiers on your kitchen table and you
simulate a war. All right, Codways up next and Michael
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