November 27, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (11/27) - The Best Of The John Kobylt Show. Pacific Palisades resident Spencer Pratt comes on the show to talk about what the process has been like to rebuild after losing his home in the Palisades Fire and everything that he has gone through and uncovered since the fire in January.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
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from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt Show
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what you missed. Let's now talk to Spencer Pratt. Spencer
Nay may be familiar to you, even if you never
saw the reality TV shows that he was in over
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the years. He is the one of the high profile
Palisades just citizen warriors going up, going up against the
NEWSOB administration, the Bass administration, the cover ups going on
in the fire department. He lost his home in the
Palisades fire, and he has been relentless since it happened,
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demanding to get truth and to get action out of
all the state and local agencies who have failed all
the people in the Palisades and and Altadena as well.
Let's get Spencer Pratt on right now. Spencer, welcome, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You, thank you. My mom has been listening to you
my entire life, so I'm honored to be on her
favorite radio show.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I apologize for that. A lot of that was probably
against your will.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Still it's still your biggest supporter.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well tell her, I say, I said, hi, and I'm
really flattered. I will Spencer you have. I will give
you a lot of credit because you are absolutely unrelenting.
A lot of people get angry, you know for a
day or two or a week. You have kept the
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torch going for ten months now and just putting out
real information and documents and videos. And we've been following
all your social media all these months and gotten quite
a lot of important information you had that wasn't covered
by the regular media in town. I guess, well, they're.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
In on the cover. So it's that's why. So that's
what I've learned, is you know, even if they wanted
to cover the stuff, they can't because you know, there's
ad dollars. It's just this such a it is it's
a conspiracy, you know, so that it's really hard to
get the truth out. And there are journalists that are
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you know, do the best they can, and I don't
want to, you know, shame them all, but one across
the board, this is I keep saying, like the biggest
cover up ever. And I mean I also keep saying
they burned down the wrong person's house, they burned down
the wrong person's parents' house, because I will do this
for the rest of my life and until every single
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person knows what truly went on here. I'm not stopping.
So everyone keeps on thinking like, oh, maybe he'll burn out.
Don't know. They already burned me out, so now I'm
going to burn down his lives.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Describe what you think the cover up entails, And I
know that's a broad question, but it is. It is.
It is a broad cover up from Sacramento to Los
Angeles and law enforcement agencies here, the fire department, the media.
You're You're right on all those counts. I have exactly
the same opinion. What you describe what you think the
cover up is here?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean it's but here. It started day one, when
right away you got Newsome lying in front of our
burning town talking about I pre deployed all these cal
fire when he didn't pre deploy one thing, that the
palisades leading in to a red flag event. LAFD didn't
pre deploy one thing leading into So just from day one,
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in front of burning buildings, with people probably still burning
alive in their houses, you have Newsome Lyne. You can't
even get Karen bass Line because she's busy on in
Africa deleting all her messages with their app. So you
got the la ed WT going backwards in there, you know,
in their logs, trying to change you know, when they
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suppose we went to turn off the power. So I
mean it started from the junk and then they went
on with the hurricane winds. There was no hurricane winds
in the Pacific Palisades. The max winds were thirty miles
per hour. So they connect the Altadena fire, which did
have some serious winds, but it's a whole different fire.
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It was clearly Edison's electrical equipment. Yes, it was actually
in state park which are state property, which people don't
really talk about. So that's really also on Newsome. But
I digress in that that's a clear cut and that's
why people always like Spencer ware. You talking about Altadena,
the CEO of edisaur they already said this is them.
They had ninety year old equipment that you know, shot
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some sparks. So the difference is they did have the wind,
they did have the electrical We didn't have that. What
we had was two empty reservoirs. I lived next door
to a reservoir. The Palisades Reservoir, not this Sandi and
as the Palisades Reservoir held, it was so hold six
million gallons. And when they decided they were going to
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drain one hundred and sixteen million gallon. When I said they,
jimnie quinnonas who makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year, and now also I think a quarter million
dollars in a security guard and a driver. And then
you also look at all the ladwts. Now they're all
making more than five hundred thousand dollars, which good for them, right,
But the fact is that for one hundred and forty
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thousand dollars, it took over a year to repair a
rip cover on a on a reservoir that wasn't even
built for drinking water. So that's even a bigger Who
knows who got the kickbacks when they decided to rebuild
this reservoir into a ledge drinking water reservoir that no
one's drinking out of it. It was built for wildfire protection.
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That's the it's quoted in the La Times when the
guy built it. Why they did it was because there
was the Mandeville fire back then, and they were like
we need another thing to fight wires, so they built that.
So you got Jennie Quinionas knowingly leaving two of the
biggest resources for wildfires empty in the Palisades. And then
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right away the day after the clever up starts they go, oh,
it wouldn't even mattered. Oh, they was never designed for
fighting structures past three What are they talking about. It
mattered because the helicopters. If it wasn't designed for wildfire,
why do they have the pumps that the helicopters connect
to the reservoir. It's because that's what it's for. So
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these helicopters for the first six hours of the Palisades fire,
they got to fly to Pepperdine, they got to fly
to Encino. This is the most important time when a
fire starts, with that initial attack to get the water
on it, and they're having it spend six and a
half hours of the actual time in the air going
to get bought thirty seconds we're talking Sanny and z.
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The Lachmann in one of these fire hawks or whatever
they called would have taken thirty seconds. But no, they
got to fly all the way to get the water.
So you got back to the bigger picture, the cover
up started insiling hurricane wings. We had pre deployed, we
were ready for this. Oh the water was never meant
for fires. So and then it's it's just I mean
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that's day two. Now, you know, we're ten months later.
You got the new chief more the other day in
the to fire commission thing going. I don't know about
any of these text messages and these reports. Excuse me, sir,
you could have asked, because on Saturday you went and
shook hands with all the Station sixty nine guys in
the palaicies. Why don't you just ask them to their
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face or did you or did you go there and
tell them to shut the f up and to stop,
you know, trying to tell the truth because the troop
doesn't look good for the fire family or whatever. Bs
these politicians, because that's what you'll learn, all these upper
brass firefighters, they're politicians. They're not the boots on the ground,
the guys behind the hose. They operate at a different level.
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They just they're just doing literally what Karen bass and
what keeps the bonuses. So these guys are all in
on it too. But then the real cover up, the
one that's like why we're on the phone today because
I feel like the La Times, I'm glad they're even
digging into this. They included me a piece about the
state parks and the Lockman fire, and I feel like
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some of the bigger pieces of that article were kind
of missed. So for people that don't understand what they've
done in the cover up is that first it was
climate change. Oh my gosh, you know New York Times
is arguing me for two weeks. How do you not
say this is climate change? We do some sets, the
wets or wetter, the drives or dryer, blah blah blah.
And then the AHF comes out with their federal investigation. No,
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now there's it's an arsonist. Oh really, No, the arsonists
was January first, and now with eight acres the news
bass lawp that's twenty five thousand acres. That's six days later.
So you can't sit here and try to blame a
guy who we don't you know, allegedly we don't have
allegedly is arsonists for the palace. As far this is
(09:13):
on Newsom Bath in the.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Laed me just let me let me just stop you
for a second. Got to do a commercial break and
get some news. We come back. I want to talk
more about the specific article in the LA Times that
you refer to. Okay, Spencer Pratt, he is the activist
for the Pacific Palisades and community he lost his house
and reality television star, so he's he's got a name,
(09:38):
and he's using that name to attract an enormous amount
of attention to everything that he just laid out. That
all those all those cover up bullet points that he
went through. Yeah, that was just day one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
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Speaker 2 (09:59):
John Cobelt, we continue with Spencer Pratt, the reality TV
star has become the outspoken leader for Palisades residents who
are fighting the massive cover up and the massive incompetence
that led to the fire and persist to this day,
(10:19):
the cover up and the incompetence and Spencer. When we left,
you were starting to address an article in the Los
Angeles Times today, and this concerns something we have talked
about this week. California State Parks sent a representative to
the site of the original fire and apparently ordered LA
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Fire Department not to use a bulldozer to cut a
line around the fire because that would harm a lot
of the local plants that they felt were endangered. To
talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
This, yeah, so like in this article, it's very he said.
She said. Spencer said that California is eight parts, tried
to restrict how firefighters caught the fire, and then she
said they didn't. Well, no backcheck, no conclusion. You don't
have to wait for the state park's confession. You could
actually research their state park policy documents like the one
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that I have. I can set you the link where
in the job description of the c SP Resource Advisor
they're explicitly taught to minimize in quotes, impacts the natural
cultural resources caused by wildland fire suppression. What does this mean? Well,
obviously by natural resources they mean plants. Their stated intent
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is to reduce the amount of plants being cut by
wild firefighters. The writing on their policies is literally in
bold bomb on the word suppression. They clearly see the
standard work of wildland firefighters to be a significant problem.
Can you reduce avoidable suppression impacts and still properly containing
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a fire? Sure? But at simple point of fact, the
purpose of this is that it precludes the firefighters from
just doing their job as they see fit, which given
the consequences, is preferable over the plant priority approach. So,
like I was trying to tell them, it's, you know,
the LAFD is gonna do their best to put out
a fire, but if when they arrive on site, if
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there's a state representative telling them they can't have a dozer.
And so that's kind of where the report mixed up
that well, I was told by the battalion chief wasn't
about the mop up. It was when they got there
for the fire. So they conflate the initial attack and
the fire line construction and the mop up. They're not
the same thing. The dozers are used for the line construction,
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not mop up. So when the ARP when they show
up to tell the battalion chief who I spoke with,
and they have a map of where there's a dozer
exclusion zone. And this is during the initial attack on
January first. So I don't know the whole counterpoint. And
the article someone says that dozers aren't used for mop up.
(13:04):
I was never saying that, and neither is Alexander Robertson
the lawyer. His quote is they couldn't bring a bulldozer
in to cut a line around the fire, and they
could not do mop up with their hand tools. He's
specifically villinating between dozer line construction on the initial attack
mop up with the hand tools, which was also restricted.
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So this whole thing about like in the article, it's like, oh,
this guy says Spencer's wrong a former thing, we wouldn't
use dozers. It's actually in their own thing that they
wouldn't use dozers because of what he's saying that it
is because of safety upgrades and power equipment, that that
area was halted for dozers because of their milk belch
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plant and they were banned. So the article it's like,
thankfully they're even like talking about it, but it's just
confusing the reader, like because they bring in some retired
LAFD guy it's like, oh, we would never use thosers.
Oh yeah, I never said they would use them on
the mop up. So that's where it's a little nic frustrating.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, but you do have to wonder, now, I would
think that there'd be forces out there trying to discredit
you in some way, even if they're they're they're they're
nitpicking on me on a mistake you didn't make.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, That's why I called in today, you know, because
I wanted to come in studio and do a whole
thing with you, and I want to fit the schedule.
But then after this article, I was like, this is
too big of a thing for like paragraphs to be
kind of put. You know, I'm not saying I'm it's
just not the right order. So I will tell exactly
what happened. So I got a d M from a
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firefighter that was on the Lochman mop up on January
tewod and he told me, you know, a whole message.
I've posted it and he said that he went up
to the battalion chief and he said, it's still smoldering.
We can't pull hose. And the battalion chief looked at him,
ignored him, and said pulled the hose. And so when
I heard that, I was like, I'm tracking down this
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battalion chief. So I got a hold of this battalion
chief and so you know, he, in his defense, he
doesn't believe that it was smoldering. You know, we all
obviously know he's wrong. There was lots of videos, but
that wasn't the takeaway from our conversation. I said, because
I was like were there any eight people there because
I had heard that there was a state right and
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he said yes. When we got to the fire, there
was a woman from the state with a map and
she was showing all the areas we couldn't touch fighting
the January first fire because of protected and danger. And
he said his takeaway was he was shocked how much
protected area was up there and asked to keep the
map and she said no. And then she also said
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they couldn't bring a dozer up, So it's not a
he said. She said, we're going to subpoena this guy,
this battalion chief, he's going to have to talk under
oath face perjury, and he's going to say that they
were told no dozer. So it's not about the mop up.
The dozer could have been there for that night, for
the initial fire, and think about the fire line that
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that dozer would have created around the burnscar. So not
the mop up, the initial attack. And so we now
know the state didn't use any of their So people
who realize the state parks have their own fire trucks,
their own fire the whole team is like, I want
to say, there's the least eleven of these truck from
Malivern puzzlege. So once now this Newsom's lawyers are denying
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that the state there was anybody from the state even there,
even though now we got photos of video of the
state rep walking the burnscar with LAFB firefighters. So they're
they're lying in court as of like two days ago.
So I don't know if they knew we had the
video photo.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah yeah, but they were definitely like, Spencer, can you
stand up for another segment? I got a longer segment
coming up?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, got time.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, just do a news break here, Debora mar Spencer
Pratt is with us going through the details of the
all the cover ups involving the Palisades fire.
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(17:28):
Right now we're talking to Spencer Pratt, the most outspoken
resident of the Palisades, he lost his home, and the
former reality TV star has been absolutely relentless going after
the Newsom administration, the Bass administration, the LA Fire Department,
and everybody, every agency, every official involved in the lack
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of preparation, the lack of response, the cover up, the
whole thing. And I got to say, Spencer, you're just
going through a list of the cover ups from the
first first day or two was that's a long list.
I mean we were just talking about it here in
the studio. You forget all this stuff because there have
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been so many angles to this story covered up, and
now it's ten months old, and it's really good to
go back to the beginning and remind everybody the lies
that were told and the cover up that has been
going on. Do you get any blowback from anybody in
government about what you're doing? Anybody try to intimidate you
(18:32):
to shut up?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, who knows. I'm so locked in and they
couldn't even dream of it. I think the only people
that I ever you know, you know, trolls that will
pop up now since Newsom's best thing that he's done
since destroying the state is focusing on life. Just yelling
about Trump. So now people that don't like Trump think
that if I'm just attacking newsom don't have any connection
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to why I'm at. I do something for what he's
done to my town and a lot of California. So
that's the only thing, and that's newer since he started
doing the whole you know, look over here, look over here,
don't look at Actually I'm the worst person for the
last twenty one years. So other than that, knowing, people
got to realize I do this because I interact with
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you know, eighty year old like grandparents crying because they
can't go back and ninety years. You know, I interact
with these people that who lost everything. So you know,
there's no they can push back all they want, there's
nothing stopping what's behind me. So what's just so crazy
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is people don't realize that we talked about the Palace
dates fire. But this is gonna come. You know, I
hate to say it, but it's coming to the Hollywood Hills,
it's coming to bel Air, it's coming to This is
just my areas that I know I can't imagine out
past what I know and my religious radar. But the
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fact that posts Palle states fire. They're still not doing
the prescribe burns. There's still not clearing the dead brush,
they're still not doing the fire breaks. It's scary that
they truly have learned nothing from the Palace States fire
and twelve people burning alive, seven thousand structures, and it's
just it's all Newsome. People don't realize that it's not
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climate change. Seven of the ten worst wildfires in the
history of California are during Newsom's rain his era, So
the time it didn't just decide, Oh, why Newsom's in charge,
I'm going to make so many more fires and burn everything. No,
CHEATAHS doesn't know how to properly manage the state parks.
And that's why the Palacetae fire is going to be
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such an important message to you know, our government is
they're on the hook for this. This is their property
that they let just smolder for six days, didn't monitor it,
didn't bring they didn't need normal Let's say everyone's like, oh,
we should have you know, you know, the new chiefs like, oh,
we're gonna definitely use thermal drones now now that we've
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warned our lesson then need thermal drones. I know four
firefighters that reached out to the upper command and said, hey,
it's smoldering, it's red. There's smoke coming off of it
leading into a red flag. It's not about technology, it's
about people's negligence. So forget even the LAFD. You know,
you can look at it as once they put it out,
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and they said at publicly they thought it was dead out,
it becomes the state's responsibility. It's in their own manual
to close the state park and make sure it's not
a dangerous condition for the community or what's next to it.
So they're argument in court the other days because the
better precedent of this legal case a like oh well,
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better state Park doesn't have massive amounts of gasoline sitting around.
So either they're the biggest liars or the worst attorneys
that they don't even know how to read their own
Instagram accounts like I posted one day ago. Caw fire
has a whole post and they're referring to vegetation management
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as fuels reduction. So what the lawyers for Newsomb State
attorneys don't get. You don't need gasoline. The entire state
park was fuel. It was forty sixty years of dead
brush just piling up next to people's houses. And here's
the best part. They go around getting tickets telling us
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on our properties to clear our yards. They got the
new zone zero law they want to create where you
don't have any of these plants. Which I'm not saying
that's bad or whatever. I'm just saying in the own community,
you get fined for not clearing your dead brush. Yet
they have it connected to everyone's houses, just forty years
of just thick dead brush, which their old manual says
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that they're supposed to be clearing one hundred and thirty
feet of this dead brush connecting to all of our houses.
So you know the bigger picture. I'm excited for the
future because I do think when all's said and done
and this is you know, Newsom goes down for this,
California won't keep burning down because they're going to learn
a hard, expensive lesson. They should have already learned it
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with people burning alive and you know, fifty billion plus
in people's properties, But they don't because they actually don't
care about any of us, which.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Is no, they don't let me. Let me ask you something,
what's the state of the rebuild?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And that's the other funniest thing. So you got Karen
baths bragging is not funny dark humor. Excuse me, Karen
Bath's out here bragging the posts. I just did an
executive order to cut all the fees for rebuilding, knowing
damn well that her executive order means nothing and she
needs a super majority vote from the city Council to
even approve waving the fees, which they have not waived.
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So out of seven thousand plus structures, you know, there's
arguments about what the number is, but we're talking three
hundred maybe houses are being rebuilt, and like they're bragging about,
like one house just finished. That house was already in
the works before the fire. A lot of these properties
they count and a lot of these permits they brag about.
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It's you're adding a pool. Now you have to get
a new permit a proof. So we're talking three hundred max.
Out of seven thousand. So there's no and it's impossible.
People are dealing with it now. They're fighting the LADWP
before underground the power lines, even though we have evidence
of these power lines having creating new fires on January
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seventh and January eighth with these poles going down. So
they're fighting the not underground power lines and they're trying
to charge everyone, so it's it's just a disaster after disaster.
And then they do little photos and igs with little
music and they're like, oh, reper rebuilding, we're doing the
fastest ever. Also, fastest ever in Los Angeles is the
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slowest anywhere on planet Earth. So you can't even reference
fast and la like, oh, this is three times what
it usually takes. Well, it shouldn't have taken that, and
anywhere else. It's just like, for instance, Senator Rick Scott
when he was out here for the Congressional like hearing,
he told me in Florida with the hurricanes, if they're
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not already rebuilding and houses aren't up within three months
of a hurricane, he said, the pitch for us come out.
But here we are ten months later. And you know
the other thing people that don't even talk about is
everyone got destroyed with insurance because of Gavin Newsom. And
and it's Ricardo Laura who's out there on fifty vacations
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on Safari with thirty thousand in bodyguards. I don't even
know what, won't even do what this guy looked like,
yet he had thirty thousand bodyguards so he's traveling around
the world. Let it while we're all getting cooked by
the insurance companies because of course they don't want to win.
Sure these as they would say extreme fire zones, they're
extreme fire zones because anyone with the brain knows that
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Newsome doesn't maintain his state parks and lets these environmentalists
he puts in charge so that he can be like, oh,
that's not me, that's Carb Well, who elected the carb
frickin person. You want you to an executive order and
get rid of these people and say we're trimming the
dead brush and they're fighting for things that all were
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is the milk belch, it's all gone, butterfly, they're all gone.
We're the lizards. They're all dead.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I thank you for coming on. I'm at a time,
but I really enjoyed this, and I want you to
come on again. All right. This is going to go
on for a long time, and whenever you've got whenever
you got no, I'm glad. I think a lot of
people listening have been captivated and probably understand this at
an even deeper level. And as you find things out,
you've always got a home here, all right. You got
(26:56):
great reach on social media, and we got pretty good
reach here on the radio, and I think we could
do a good job spreading the word. So thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Thank you, keep it up. You're only ig plus I
like to share somebody with a brain, so left in
a zip code.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
All right, thanks betcham.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We'll talk against so hey.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Spencer Pratt and Paliss fired.
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your usual excessively generous self like you have been for
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fifteen years now. Spencer Pretz a hard act to follow.
We had them on for the last hour. If you're
just joining us or you got it in the middle,
I really they really would listen to our three of
the podcast today and listen to him detail a lot
of the early cover up, a lot of the early
sins committed by Newsomb administration, Bass administration, the Fire Department,
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and how much they have tried to cover up, and
all the lies they told and the phony excuses and
the propaganda and the nonsense that continues to this day.
I've told you for a long time that almost everything
public officials utter in California are lies in propaganda, and
they had there was very little preparation for this, very
(29:39):
little execution to combat the fire, and now post fire,
everything's been covering up, covering it up and lying. There's
and to think to think that the reason the state
may have chased those La Fire fires away the day
after the original fire was to protect the milk vetch plant.
(30:02):
I'd read this early on in the La Times, and
I believe we talked about it. But that's what got
a state Parks representative to come down in the middle
of the night and get the LA Fire Department to
stop building a fire line. They couldn't have bulldozers in
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order to build a fire break to keep the fire
from spreading. And then you bundle that with the LA
Fire Department taken off from a smoldering fire. And again
this you know, we got to separate because I can
see what this new fire chief is doing. Iimmore he's
trying to take the obvious, clear criticism of fire management
(30:47):
and say, oh, you're smearing the hard working firefighters put
their lives on the line. Boy, that is the cheapest
dodge in the world. And it may intimidate some people.
You may be trying to embarrass some people. That's silence.
It's not going to work here. It's not going to
work with Spencer Pratty. Okay, I know what you're doing.
I have listened to public officials lie for a long
time in Los Angeles. I have heard it all. I
(31:11):
know all your tricks. And the trick here from Hoimimore
the fire chief is to I think a new some
word is conflate to confuse people. Criticism of fire management
is not criticism of firefighters. If the firefighters screw up,
we'll say so. But this is fire management. And they're
all covering their ass and all their other sorry body
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parts right now. And we are going to be relentless
in giving everybody the truth here and God help us
if Newsom or Bass survive any of this. I have
never seen two people who deserve to be put out
to pasture. The two of them ought to be put
out to prison for what they've done. It's criminal negligence.
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every day
from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt Show
on demand on the iHeart app, and you listen to
what you missed. Let's now talk to Spencer Pratt. Spencer
Nay may be familiar to you, even if you never
saw the reality TV shows that he was in over
(00:23):
the years. He is the one of the high profile
Palisades just citizen warriors going up, going up against the
NEWSOB administration, the Bass administration, the cover ups going on
in the fire department. He lost his home in the
Palisades fire, and he has been relentless since it happened,
(00:45):
demanding to get truth and to get action out of
all the state and local agencies who have failed all
the people in the Palisades and and Altadena as well.
Let's get Spencer Pratt on right now. Spencer, welcome, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You, thank you. My mom has been listening to you
my entire life, so I'm honored to be on her
favorite radio show.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I apologize for that. A lot of that was probably
against your will.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Still it's still your biggest supporter.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well tell her, I say, I said, hi, and I'm
really flattered. I will Spencer you have. I will give
you a lot of credit because you are absolutely unrelenting.
A lot of people get angry, you know for a
day or two or a week. You have kept the
(01:38):
torch going for ten months now and just putting out
real information and documents and videos. And we've been following
all your social media all these months and gotten quite
a lot of important information you had that wasn't covered
by the regular media in town. I guess, well, they're.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
In on the cover. So it's that's why. So that's
what I've learned, is you know, even if they wanted
to cover the stuff, they can't because you know, there's
ad dollars. It's just this such a it is it's
a conspiracy, you know, so that it's really hard to
get the truth out. And there are journalists that are
(02:19):
you know, do the best they can, and I don't
want to, you know, shame them all, but one across
the board, this is I keep saying, like the biggest
cover up ever. And I mean I also keep saying
they burned down the wrong person's house, they burned down
the wrong person's parents' house, because I will do this
for the rest of my life and until every single
(02:41):
person knows what truly went on here. I'm not stopping.
So everyone keeps on thinking like, oh, maybe he'll burn out.
Don't know. They already burned me out, so now I'm
going to burn down his lives.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Describe what you think the cover up entails, And I
know that's a broad question, but it is. It is.
It is a broad cover up from Sacramento to Los
Angeles and law enforcement agencies here, the fire department, the media.
You're You're right on all those counts. I have exactly
the same opinion. What you describe what you think the
cover up is here?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean it's but here. It started day one, when
right away you got Newsome lying in front of our
burning town talking about I pre deployed all these cal
fire when he didn't pre deploy one thing, that the
palisades leading in to a red flag event. LAFD didn't
pre deploy one thing leading into So just from day one,
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in front of burning buildings, with people probably still burning
alive in their houses, you have Newsome Lyne. You can't
even get Karen bass Line because she's busy on in
Africa deleting all her messages with their app. So you
got the la ed WT going backwards in there, you know,
in their logs, trying to change you know, when they
(03:59):
suppose we went to turn off the power. So I
mean it started from the junk and then they went
on with the hurricane winds. There was no hurricane winds
in the Pacific Palisades. The max winds were thirty miles
per hour. So they connect the Altadena fire, which did
have some serious winds, but it's a whole different fire.
(04:19):
It was clearly Edison's electrical equipment. Yes, it was actually
in state park which are state property, which people don't
really talk about. So that's really also on Newsome. But
I digress in that that's a clear cut and that's
why people always like Spencer ware. You talking about Altadena,
the CEO of edisaur they already said this is them.
They had ninety year old equipment that you know, shot
(04:43):
some sparks. So the difference is they did have the wind,
they did have the electrical We didn't have that. What
we had was two empty reservoirs. I lived next door
to a reservoir. The Palisades Reservoir, not this Sandi and
as the Palisades Reservoir held, it was so hold six
million gallons. And when they decided they were going to
(05:05):
drain one hundred and sixteen million gallon. When I said they,
jimnie quinnonas who makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
a year, and now also I think a quarter million
dollars in a security guard and a driver. And then
you also look at all the ladwts. Now they're all
making more than five hundred thousand dollars, which good for them, right,
But the fact is that for one hundred and forty
(05:27):
thousand dollars, it took over a year to repair a
rip cover on a on a reservoir that wasn't even
built for drinking water. So that's even a bigger Who
knows who got the kickbacks when they decided to rebuild
this reservoir into a ledge drinking water reservoir that no
one's drinking out of it. It was built for wildfire protection.
(05:49):
That's the it's quoted in the La Times when the
guy built it. Why they did it was because there
was the Mandeville fire back then, and they were like
we need another thing to fight wires, so they built that.
So you got Jennie Quinionas knowingly leaving two of the
biggest resources for wildfires empty in the Palisades. And then
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right away the day after the clever up starts they go, oh,
it wouldn't even mattered. Oh, they was never designed for
fighting structures past three What are they talking about. It
mattered because the helicopters. If it wasn't designed for wildfire,
why do they have the pumps that the helicopters connect
to the reservoir. It's because that's what it's for. So
(06:34):
these helicopters for the first six hours of the Palisades fire,
they got to fly to Pepperdine, they got to fly
to Encino. This is the most important time when a
fire starts, with that initial attack to get the water
on it, and they're having it spend six and a
half hours of the actual time in the air going
to get bought thirty seconds we're talking Sanny and z.
(06:58):
The Lachmann in one of these fire hawks or whatever
they called would have taken thirty seconds. But no, they
got to fly all the way to get the water.
So you got back to the bigger picture, the cover
up started insiling hurricane wings. We had pre deployed, we
were ready for this. Oh the water was never meant
for fires. So and then it's it's just I mean
(07:21):
that's day two. Now, you know, we're ten months later.
You got the new chief more the other day in
the to fire commission thing going. I don't know about
any of these text messages and these reports. Excuse me, sir,
you could have asked, because on Saturday you went and
shook hands with all the Station sixty nine guys in
the palaicies. Why don't you just ask them to their
(07:43):
face or did you or did you go there and
tell them to shut the f up and to stop,
you know, trying to tell the truth because the troop
doesn't look good for the fire family or whatever. Bs
these politicians, because that's what you'll learn, all these upper
brass firefighters, they're politicians. They're not the boots on the ground,
the guys behind the hose. They operate at a different level.
(08:05):
They just they're just doing literally what Karen bass and
what keeps the bonuses. So these guys are all in
on it too. But then the real cover up, the
one that's like why we're on the phone today because
I feel like the La Times, I'm glad they're even
digging into this. They included me a piece about the
state parks and the Lockman fire, and I feel like
(08:27):
some of the bigger pieces of that article were kind
of missed. So for people that don't understand what they've
done in the cover up is that first it was
climate change. Oh my gosh, you know New York Times
is arguing me for two weeks. How do you not
say this is climate change? We do some sets, the
wets or wetter, the drives or dryer, blah blah blah.
And then the AHF comes out with their federal investigation. No,
(08:50):
now there's it's an arsonist. Oh really, No, the arsonists
was January first, and now with eight acres the news
bass lawp that's twenty five thousand acres. That's six days later.
So you can't sit here and try to blame a
guy who we don't you know, allegedly we don't have
allegedly is arsonists for the palace. As far this is
(09:13):
on Newsom Bath in the.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Laed me just let me let me just stop you
for a second. Got to do a commercial break and
get some news. We come back. I want to talk
more about the specific article in the LA Times that
you refer to. Okay, Spencer Pratt, he is the activist
for the Pacific Palisades and community he lost his house
and reality television star, so he's he's got a name,
(09:38):
and he's using that name to attract an enormous amount
of attention to everything that he just laid out. That
all those all those cover up bullet points that he
went through. Yeah, that was just day one.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
John Cobelt, we continue with Spencer Pratt, the reality TV
star has become the outspoken leader for Palisades residents who
are fighting the massive cover up and the massive incompetence
that led to the fire and persist to this day,
(10:19):
the cover up and the incompetence and Spencer. When we left,
you were starting to address an article in the Los
Angeles Times today, and this concerns something we have talked
about this week. California State Parks sent a representative to
the site of the original fire and apparently ordered LA
(10:41):
Fire Department not to use a bulldozer to cut a
line around the fire because that would harm a lot
of the local plants that they felt were endangered. To
talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
This, yeah, so like in this article, it's very he said.
She said. Spencer said that California is eight parts, tried
to restrict how firefighters caught the fire, and then she
said they didn't. Well, no backcheck, no conclusion. You don't
have to wait for the state park's confession. You could
actually research their state park policy documents like the one
(11:15):
that I have. I can set you the link where
in the job description of the c SP Resource Advisor
they're explicitly taught to minimize in quotes, impacts the natural
cultural resources caused by wildland fire suppression. What does this mean? Well,
obviously by natural resources they mean plants. Their stated intent
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is to reduce the amount of plants being cut by
wild firefighters. The writing on their policies is literally in
bold bomb on the word suppression. They clearly see the
standard work of wildland firefighters to be a significant problem.
Can you reduce avoidable suppression impacts and still properly containing
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a fire? Sure? But at simple point of fact, the
purpose of this is that it precludes the firefighters from
just doing their job as they see fit, which given
the consequences, is preferable over the plant priority approach. So,
like I was trying to tell them, it's, you know,
the LAFD is gonna do their best to put out
a fire, but if when they arrive on site, if
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there's a state representative telling them they can't have a dozer.
And so that's kind of where the report mixed up
that well, I was told by the battalion chief wasn't
about the mop up. It was when they got there
for the fire. So they conflate the initial attack and
the fire line construction and the mop up. They're not
the same thing. The dozers are used for the line construction,
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not mop up. So when the ARP when they show
up to tell the battalion chief who I spoke with,
and they have a map of where there's a dozer
exclusion zone. And this is during the initial attack on
January first. So I don't know the whole counterpoint. And
the article someone says that dozers aren't used for mop up.
(13:04):
I was never saying that, and neither is Alexander Robertson
the lawyer. His quote is they couldn't bring a bulldozer
in to cut a line around the fire, and they
could not do mop up with their hand tools. He's
specifically villinating between dozer line construction on the initial attack
mop up with the hand tools, which was also restricted.
(13:25):
So this whole thing about like in the article, it's like, oh,
this guy says Spencer's wrong a former thing, we wouldn't
use dozers. It's actually in their own thing that they
wouldn't use dozers because of what he's saying that it
is because of safety upgrades and power equipment, that that
area was halted for dozers because of their milk belch
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plant and they were banned. So the article it's like,
thankfully they're even like talking about it, but it's just
confusing the reader, like because they bring in some retired
LAFD guy it's like, oh, we would never use thosers.
Oh yeah, I never said they would use them on
the mop up. So that's where it's a little nic frustrating.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, but you do have to wonder, now, I would
think that there'd be forces out there trying to discredit
you in some way, even if they're they're they're they're
nitpicking on me on a mistake you didn't make.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, That's why I called in today, you know, because
I wanted to come in studio and do a whole
thing with you, and I want to fit the schedule.
But then after this article, I was like, this is
too big of a thing for like paragraphs to be
kind of put. You know, I'm not saying I'm it's
just not the right order. So I will tell exactly
what happened. So I got a d M from a
(14:41):
firefighter that was on the Lochman mop up on January
tewod and he told me, you know, a whole message.
I've posted it and he said that he went up
to the battalion chief and he said, it's still smoldering.
We can't pull hose. And the battalion chief looked at him,
ignored him, and said pulled the hose. And so when
I heard that, I was like, I'm tracking down this
(15:02):
battalion chief. So I got a hold of this battalion
chief and so you know, he, in his defense, he
doesn't believe that it was smoldering. You know, we all
obviously know he's wrong. There was lots of videos, but
that wasn't the takeaway from our conversation. I said, because
I was like were there any eight people there because
I had heard that there was a state right and
(15:23):
he said yes. When we got to the fire, there
was a woman from the state with a map and
she was showing all the areas we couldn't touch fighting
the January first fire because of protected and danger. And
he said his takeaway was he was shocked how much
protected area was up there and asked to keep the
map and she said no. And then she also said
(15:46):
they couldn't bring a dozer up, So it's not a
he said. She said, we're going to subpoena this guy,
this battalion chief, he's going to have to talk under
oath face perjury, and he's going to say that they
were told no dozer. So it's not about the mop up.
The dozer could have been there for that night, for
the initial fire, and think about the fire line that
(16:06):
that dozer would have created around the burnscar. So not
the mop up, the initial attack. And so we now
know the state didn't use any of their So people
who realize the state parks have their own fire trucks,
their own fire the whole team is like, I want
to say, there's the least eleven of these truck from
Malivern puzzlege. So once now this Newsom's lawyers are denying
(16:30):
that the state there was anybody from the state even there,
even though now we got photos of video of the
state rep walking the burnscar with LAFB firefighters. So they're
they're lying in court as of like two days ago.
So I don't know if they knew we had the
video photo.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah yeah, but they were definitely like, Spencer, can you
stand up for another segment? I got a longer segment
coming up?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, got time.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, just do a news break here, Debora mar Spencer
Pratt is with us going through the details of the
all the cover ups involving the Palisades fire.
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Right now we're talking to Spencer Pratt, the most outspoken
resident of the Palisades, he lost his home, and the
former reality TV star has been absolutely relentless going after
the Newsom administration, the Bass administration, the LA Fire Department,
and everybody, every agency, every official involved in the lack
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of preparation, the lack of response, the cover up, the
whole thing. And I got to say, Spencer, you're just
going through a list of the cover ups from the
first first day or two was that's a long list.
I mean we were just talking about it here in
the studio. You forget all this stuff because there have
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been so many angles to this story covered up, and
now it's ten months old, and it's really good to
go back to the beginning and remind everybody the lies
that were told and the cover up that has been
going on. Do you get any blowback from anybody in
government about what you're doing? Anybody try to intimidate you
(18:32):
to shut up?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, who knows. I'm so locked in and they
couldn't even dream of it. I think the only people
that I ever you know, you know, trolls that will
pop up now since Newsom's best thing that he's done
since destroying the state is focusing on life. Just yelling
about Trump. So now people that don't like Trump think
that if I'm just attacking newsom don't have any connection
(18:58):
to why I'm at. I do something for what he's
done to my town and a lot of California. So
that's the only thing, and that's newer since he started
doing the whole you know, look over here, look over here,
don't look at Actually I'm the worst person for the
last twenty one years. So other than that, knowing, people
got to realize I do this because I interact with
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you know, eighty year old like grandparents crying because they
can't go back and ninety years. You know, I interact
with these people that who lost everything. So you know,
there's no they can push back all they want, there's
nothing stopping what's behind me. So what's just so crazy
(19:42):
is people don't realize that we talked about the Palace
dates fire. But this is gonna come. You know, I
hate to say it, but it's coming to the Hollywood Hills,
it's coming to bel Air, it's coming to This is
just my areas that I know I can't imagine out
past what I know and my religious radar. But the
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fact that posts Palle states fire. They're still not doing
the prescribe burns. There's still not clearing the dead brush,
they're still not doing the fire breaks. It's scary that
they truly have learned nothing from the Palace States fire
and twelve people burning alive, seven thousand structures, and it's
just it's all Newsome. People don't realize that it's not
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climate change. Seven of the ten worst wildfires in the
history of California are during Newsom's rain his era, So
the time it didn't just decide, Oh, why Newsom's in charge,
I'm going to make so many more fires and burn everything. No,
CHEATAHS doesn't know how to properly manage the state parks.
And that's why the Palacetae fire is going to be
(20:47):
such an important message to you know, our government is
they're on the hook for this. This is their property
that they let just smolder for six days, didn't monitor it,
didn't bring they didn't need normal Let's say everyone's like, oh,
we should have you know, you know, the new chiefs like, oh,
we're gonna definitely use thermal drones now now that we've
(21:08):
warned our lesson then need thermal drones. I know four
firefighters that reached out to the upper command and said, hey,
it's smoldering, it's red. There's smoke coming off of it
leading into a red flag. It's not about technology, it's
about people's negligence. So forget even the LAFD. You know,
you can look at it as once they put it out,
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and they said at publicly they thought it was dead out,
it becomes the state's responsibility. It's in their own manual
to close the state park and make sure it's not
a dangerous condition for the community or what's next to it.
So they're argument in court the other days because the
better precedent of this legal case a like oh well,
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better state Park doesn't have massive amounts of gasoline sitting around.
So either they're the biggest liars or the worst attorneys
that they don't even know how to read their own
Instagram accounts like I posted one day ago. Caw fire
has a whole post and they're referring to vegetation management
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as fuels reduction. So what the lawyers for Newsomb State
attorneys don't get. You don't need gasoline. The entire state
park was fuel. It was forty sixty years of dead
brush just piling up next to people's houses. And here's
the best part. They go around getting tickets telling us
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on our properties to clear our yards. They got the
new zone zero law they want to create where you
don't have any of these plants. Which I'm not saying
that's bad or whatever. I'm just saying in the own community,
you get fined for not clearing your dead brush. Yet
they have it connected to everyone's houses, just forty years
of just thick dead brush, which their old manual says
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that they're supposed to be clearing one hundred and thirty
feet of this dead brush connecting to all of our houses.
So you know the bigger picture. I'm excited for the
future because I do think when all's said and done
and this is you know, Newsom goes down for this,
California won't keep burning down because they're going to learn
a hard, expensive lesson. They should have already learned it
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with people burning alive and you know, fifty billion plus
in people's properties, But they don't because they actually don't
care about any of us, which.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Is no, they don't let me. Let me ask you something,
what's the state of the rebuild?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And that's the other funniest thing. So you got Karen
baths bragging is not funny dark humor. Excuse me, Karen
Bath's out here bragging the posts. I just did an
executive order to cut all the fees for rebuilding, knowing
damn well that her executive order means nothing and she
needs a super majority vote from the city Council to
even approve waving the fees, which they have not waived.
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So out of seven thousand plus structures, you know, there's
arguments about what the number is, but we're talking three
hundred maybe houses are being rebuilt, and like they're bragging about,
like one house just finished. That house was already in
the works before the fire. A lot of these properties
they count and a lot of these permits they brag about.
(24:17):
It's you're adding a pool. Now you have to get
a new permit a proof. So we're talking three hundred max.
Out of seven thousand. So there's no and it's impossible.
People are dealing with it now. They're fighting the LADWP
before underground the power lines, even though we have evidence
of these power lines having creating new fires on January
(24:39):
seventh and January eighth with these poles going down. So
they're fighting the not underground power lines and they're trying
to charge everyone, so it's it's just a disaster after disaster.
And then they do little photos and igs with little
music and they're like, oh, reper rebuilding, we're doing the
fastest ever. Also, fastest ever in Los Angeles is the
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slowest anywhere on planet Earth. So you can't even reference
fast and la like, oh, this is three times what
it usually takes. Well, it shouldn't have taken that, and
anywhere else. It's just like, for instance, Senator Rick Scott
when he was out here for the Congressional like hearing,
he told me in Florida with the hurricanes, if they're
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not already rebuilding and houses aren't up within three months
of a hurricane, he said, the pitch for us come out.
But here we are ten months later. And you know
the other thing people that don't even talk about is
everyone got destroyed with insurance because of Gavin Newsom. And
and it's Ricardo Laura who's out there on fifty vacations
(25:44):
on Safari with thirty thousand in bodyguards. I don't even
know what, won't even do what this guy looked like,
yet he had thirty thousand bodyguards so he's traveling around
the world. Let it while we're all getting cooked by
the insurance companies because of course they don't want to win.
Sure these as they would say extreme fire zones, they're
extreme fire zones because anyone with the brain knows that
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Newsome doesn't maintain his state parks and lets these environmentalists
he puts in charge so that he can be like, oh,
that's not me, that's Carb Well, who elected the carb
frickin person. You want you to an executive order and
get rid of these people and say we're trimming the
dead brush and they're fighting for things that all were
(26:27):
is the milk belch, it's all gone, butterfly, they're all gone.
We're the lizards. They're all dead.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I thank you for coming on. I'm at a time,
but I really enjoyed this, and I want you to
come on again. All right. This is going to go
on for a long time, and whenever you've got whenever
you got no, I'm glad. I think a lot of
people listening have been captivated and probably understand this at
an even deeper level. And as you find things out,
you've always got a home here, all right. You got
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great reach on social media, and we got pretty good
reach here on the radio, and I think we could
do a good job spreading the word. So thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Thank you, keep it up. You're only ig plus I
like to share somebody with a brain, so left in
a zip code.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
All right, thanks betcham.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We'll talk against so hey.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Spencer Pratt and Paliss fired.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
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fifteen years now. Spencer Pretz a hard act to follow.
We had them on for the last hour. If you're
just joining us or you got it in the middle,
I really they really would listen to our three of
the podcast today and listen to him detail a lot
of the early cover up, a lot of the early
sins committed by Newsomb administration, Bass administration, the Fire Department,
(29:16):
and how much they have tried to cover up, and
all the lies they told and the phony excuses and
the propaganda and the nonsense that continues to this day.
I've told you for a long time that almost everything
public officials utter in California are lies in propaganda, and
they had there was very little preparation for this, very
(29:39):
little execution to combat the fire, and now post fire,
everything's been covering up, covering it up and lying. There's
and to think to think that the reason the state
may have chased those La Fire fires away the day
after the original fire was to protect the milk vetch plant.
(30:02):
I'd read this early on in the La Times, and
I believe we talked about it. But that's what got
a state Parks representative to come down in the middle
of the night and get the LA Fire Department to
stop building a fire line. They couldn't have bulldozers in
(30:23):
order to build a fire break to keep the fire
from spreading. And then you bundle that with the LA
Fire Department taken off from a smoldering fire. And again
this you know, we got to separate because I can
see what this new fire chief is doing. Iimmore he's
trying to take the obvious, clear criticism of fire management
(30:47):
and say, oh, you're smearing the hard working firefighters put
their lives on the line. Boy, that is the cheapest
dodge in the world. And it may intimidate some people.
You may be trying to embarrass some people. That's silence.
It's not going to work here. It's not going to
work with Spencer Pratty. Okay, I know what you're doing.
I have listened to public officials lie for a long
time in Los Angeles. I have heard it all. I
(31:11):
know all your tricks. And the trick here from Hoimimore
the fire chief is to I think a new some
word is conflate to confuse people. Criticism of fire management
is not criticism of firefighters. If the firefighters screw up,
we'll say so. But this is fire management. And they're
all covering their ass and all their other sorry body
(31:32):
parts right now. And we are going to be relentless
in giving everybody the truth here and God help us
if Newsom or Bass survive any of this. I have
never seen two people who deserve to be put out
to pasture. The two of them ought to be put
out to prison for what they've done. It's criminal negligence.
(31:53):
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