November 20, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (11/20) - Pacific Palisades resident Spencer Pratt comes on the show to talk about what the process has been like to rebuild after losing his home in the Palisades Fire and everything that he has gone through and uncovered since the fire in January.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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listen to find out what they were. That's the two
o'clock hour. Let's now talk to Spencer Pratt. Spencer Nay
(00:42):
may be familiar to you, even if you never saw
the reality TV shows that he was in over the years.
He is the one of the high profile Palisades just
citizen warriors going up, going up against the newsomb administration,
the administration, the cover ups going on in the fire department.
(01:03):
He lost his home in the Palisades fire and he
has been relentless since it happened, demanding to get truth
and to get action out of all the state and
local agencies who have failed all the people in the
Palisades in and Altadena as well. Let's get Spencer Pratt
on right now. Spencer, welcome, Thank.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You, thank you. My mom has been listening to you
my entire life, so I'm honored to be on her
favorite radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I apologize for that. A lot of that was probably
against your will.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Still your biggest supporter.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well tell her, I say, I said, hi, and I'm
really flattered. I will Spencer you have. I will give
you a lot of credit because you are absolutely unrelenting.
A lot of people get angry, you know for a
day or two or a week. You have kept the
uh the torch going for ten months now and just
(02:05):
putting out real information and documents and videos and uh
we we've been following all your social media all these
months and gotten quite a lot of important information you
had that wasn't covered by the regular media in town.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Uh I guess well, they're they're in on the cover up.
So it's it's that's why. So That's what I've learned
is you know, even if they wanted to cover the stuff,
they can't because you know, there's ad dollars. It's just
this such a it is it's a conspiracy, you know,
so it's really hard to get the truth out. And
(02:41):
there are journalists that are, you know, do the best
they can, and I don't want to, you know, shame
them all, but one across the board. This is I
keep saying, like the biggest cover up ever. And I
mean I also keep saying they burned out in the
wrong person's house, they burned down the wrong person's parents.
Because I will do this for the rest of my
(03:02):
life and until every single person knows what truly went
on here. I'm not stopping. So everyone keeps on thinking like, oh,
maybe he'll burn out. They already burned me out, so
now I'm gonna burn down his lives.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Describe what you think the cover up entails, and I
know that's a broad question, but it is.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It is a broad cover up from Sacramento to Los
Angeles and law enforcement agencies here, the fire department, the media.
You're right on all those counts. I have exactly the
same opinion. What you describe what you think the cover
up is here?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It started day one, when right away you got Newsome
lying in front of our burning town, talking about I
pre deployed all these califire when he didn't pre deploy
one thing that the palicy is leading in to a
red flag event. LAFD didn't pre deploy one thing leading
into So just from day one, in front of burning buildings,
(04:03):
with people's probably still burning alive in their houses, you
have Newsom lying you can't even get Karen bass Line
because she's busy on in Africa deleting all her messages
with their app. So you got the LADWP going backwards
in there, you know, in their logs, trying to change
you know when they supposedly went to turn off the power.
(04:25):
So I mean it started from the jump, and then
they went on with the hurricane winds. There was no
hurricane winds in the Pacific Palisades. The match winds were
thirty miles per hour. So they connect the Altadena fire,
which did have some serious winds, but it's a whole
different fire. It was clearly Edison's electrical equipment. Yes, it
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was actually in state park, which are state property which
people don't really talk about. So that's really also on Newsome.
But I digress in that that's a clear cut and
that's why people are always like, Spencer, why aren't you talking
about Altadena? The CEO of Edisto, they already said this
is them. They had ninety year old equipment that you know,
shot some sparks. So the difference is they did have
(05:09):
the wind, they did have the electrical We didn't have that.
What we had was two empty reservoirs. I live next
door to a reservoir, the Palisades Reservoir, not the Sandi
and as the Palisades Reservoir held was supposed to hold
six million gallons, and when they decided they were going
to drain one hundred and sixteen million gallon. When I
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said they, jimnie quinnonas who makes seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars a year, and now also I think a
quarter million dollars in a security guard and a driver.
And then you also look at all the ledwts sown.
They're all making more than five hundred thousand dollars, which
good for them, right, But the fact is that for
one hundred and forty thousand dollars, it took over a
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year to repair a rip cover on a on a
reservoir that wasn't even built for drinking waters. So that's
even a bigger who knows who got the kickbacks when
they decided to rebuild this reservoir into a ledge drinking
water reservoir that no one's drinking out of it. It
was built for wildfire protection. That's the it's quoted in
(06:14):
the La Times when the guy built it. Why they
did it was because there was the Mandeville fire back then,
and they're like, we need another thing to fight wildfires.
So they built that. So we got Jennie quinnonas knowingly
leaving two of the biggest resources for wildfires empty in
the Palisades, and then right away the day after the
(06:36):
cover up starts to go, oh, it wouldn't even matter.
Oh they was never designed for fighting structures past three,
What are they talking about? It mattered because the helicopters.
If it wasn't designed for wildfire, why do they have
the pumps that the helicopters connect to the reservoir. It's
because that's what it's for. So these helicopters for the
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first six hours of the palis As fire, they got
to fly to Pepperdine, they got to fly to Encino.
This is the most important time when a fire starts.
Is that initial attack to get the water on it,
and they're having to spend six and a half hours
of the actual time in the air going to get
the water thirty seconds we're talking Sanny and Z to
(07:21):
Lochman in one of these fire hawks or whatever they
called would have taken thirty seconds, but no, they got
to fly all the way to get the water. So
you got back to the bigger picture. The cover up
started instilling hurricane wins. We had three deployed, we were
ready for this. Oh the water was never meant for fires.
So and then it's I mean that's day two. Now
(07:46):
you know we're ten months later. You got the new
chief more the other day in the fire commission thing going,
I don't know about any of these text messages and
these reports. Excuse me, sir, you could have asked, because
on Saturday, do you win and shook hands with all
the the stations, sixty nine guys in the palacies, Why
don't you just ask them to their face or did
(08:07):
you or did you go there and tell them to
shut the f up and to stop, you know, trying
to tell the truth because the truth doesn't look good
for the fire family or whatever bs these politicians, because
that's what you'll learn all these upper brass firefighters, they're politicians.
They're not the boots on the ground, the guys behind
the hose. They operate at a different level. They just
(08:29):
they're just doing literally what Karen bass and what keeps
the bonuses. So these guys are all in on it too.
But then the real cover up, the one that's like
why we're on the phone today because I feel like
the La Times, I'm glad they're even digging into this.
They included me a piece about the state parks and
the Lockman fire, and I feel like some of the
(08:51):
bigger pieces of that article were kind of missed. So
for people don't understand what they've done in the cover
up is that first it was climate Oh my gosh,
you know New York Times is arguing me for two weeks.
How do you not say, this is climate change? New
some sets the wets or wetter the drivers or dryer,
blah blah blah. And then the AHF comes out with
(09:11):
their federal jestigation. No, now some it's an arsonist. Oh really, no,
the arsonists was January first, and now was eight acres.
The newsome bas La WP palass fire. That's twenty five
thousand acres. That's six days later. So you can't sit
here and try to blame a guy who we don't
you know, allegedly, we don't even allegedly is the arsonist
(09:35):
for the palace. As far this is on newsom baths
in the led.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Let me let me, let me just stop you for
a second. I got to do a commercial break and
get some news. We come back. I want to talk
more about the specific article in the La Times that
you refer to. Okay, Spencer Pratt, he is uh the
activist for the Pacific Palisades community. He lost his house
and reality television star, so's he's got a name, and
(10:02):
he's using that name to attract an enormous amount of
attention to everything that he just laid out. That all
those all those cover up bullet points that he went through. Yeah,
that was just day one.
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Speaker 1 (10:22):
John Cobelt Show. We continue with Spencer Pratt, the reality
TV star has become the the the outspoken leader for
Palisades residents who are fighting the massive cover up and
the massive incompetence that led to the fire and persists
to this day, the cover up and the incompetence. And Spencer,
(10:47):
when we left, you were starting to address an article
in the Los Angeles Times today and this concern something
we have talked about this week. California State Parks sent
a representative to the site of the original fire and
apparently ordered LA Fire Department not to use a bulldozer
(11:08):
to cut a line around the fire because that would
harm a lot of the local plants that they felt
were endangered. To talk about this.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, so like in this article, it's very he said,
she said. Spencer said that California's State Parks tried to
restrict how firefighters bought the fire, and then she said
they didn't. Well, no baccheck, no conclusion. You don't have
to wait for the state park's confession. You could actually
research their state park policy documents like the one that
(11:39):
I have. I can set you the link where in
the job description of the c SP Resource advisor they're
explicitly taught to minimize in quotes, impacts the natural cultural
resources caused by wild land fire suppression. What does this mean? Well,
obviously by natural resources they mean plants. Their stated intent
(12:02):
is to reduce the amount of plants being cut by
wild firefighters. The writing on their policies is literally in
bold bomb on the word suppression. They clearly see the
standard work of wildland firefighters to be a significant problem.
Can you reduce avoidable fresh impacts and still properly containing
(12:22):
a fire? Sure, But at simple point of fact, the
purpose of this is that it precludes the firefighters from
just doing their job as they see fit, which given
the consequences, is preferable over the plant priority approach. So,
like I was trying to tell them, it's you know,
the LAFD is going to do their best to put
out a fire, but if when they arrive on site,
(12:44):
if there's a state representative telling them they can't have
a dozer. And so that's kind of where the report
mixed up. That well, I was told by the battalion
chief wasn't about the mop up was when they got
there for the fire, So they can f the initial
attack and the fire line construction and the mop up
they're not the same thing. The dozers are used for
(13:06):
the line construction, not mop up. So when the ARP
when they show up to tell the battalion chief who
I spoke with, and they have a map of where
there's a dozer exclusion zone, and this is during the
initial attack on January first, So I don't know what
the whole counterpoint. And the article someone says that dozers
(13:26):
aren't used for mop up. I was never saying that,
and neither is Alexander Robertson the lawyer. His quote is
they couldn't bring a bulldozer in the cut a line
around the fire, and they could not do mop up
with their hand tools. He's specifically villidating between dozer line
construction on the initial attack mop up with the hand tools,
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which was also restricted. So this whole thing about like
in the article, it's like, oh, this guy says Spencer
is wrong a former thing, we wouldn't use dozers. It's
actually in their own thing that they wouldn't use dozers
because of what he's saying that it's because of safety
upgrades and power equipment that that area was halted for
(14:09):
dozers because of their milk belch plant and they were banned.
So the article is like, thankfully they're even like talking
about it, but it's just confusing the reader, like because
they bring in some retired LAFD guy. It's like, oh,
we would never use dozers. Oh yeah, uh. I never
said they would use them on the mop up. So
that's where it's a little nice frustrating.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, but you do have to wonder, now, I would
think that there'd be forces out there trying to discredit
you in some way, even if they're they're they're they're
nitpicking me on a mistake you didn't make.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, that's why I called in today, and you know,
because I wanted to come in studio and do a
whole thing with you, and I want to fit the schedule.
But then after this article is like, this is too
big of a thing for like paragraphs to be kind
of put. You know, I'm not saying I'm it's just
not the right order. So I will tell exactly what happened.
So I got a DM from a firefighter that was
(15:06):
on the Lochman mop up on January second, and he
told me, you know, a whole message. I posted it
and he said that he went up to the battalion
chief and he said it's still smoldering. We can't pull hose.
And the battalion chief looked at him, ignored him, and
said pulled the hose, and so when I heard that,
I was like, I'm tracking down this battalion chief. So
(15:27):
I got a hold of this battalion chief and so
you know, he in his defense, he doesn't believe that
it was smoldering. You know, we all obviously know he's wrong.
It was lots of videos. But that wasn't the takeaway
from our conversation, I said, because I was like, were
there any eight people there? Because I had heard that
there was a state right and he said yes. When
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we got to the fire, there was a woman from
the state with a map and she was showing all
the areas we couldn't touch fighting the January first fire
because of protected He said. His takeaway was he was
shocked how much protected area was up there and asked
to keep the map and she said no. And then
(16:09):
she also said they couldn't bring a dozer up. So
it's not a he said. She said, we're gonna subpoena
this guy, this battalion chief. He's gonna have to talk
under oath face perjury, and he's gonna say that they
were told no dozer, So it's not about the mop up.
The dozer could have been there for that night for
the initial fire, and think about the fire line that
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that dozer would have created around the burns car. So
not the mop up the initial attack. And so we
now know the state didn't use any of their so
people will realize the state parks have their own fire trucks,
their own fire The whole team is like, I want
to say, there's at least eleven of these truck from
Malibny puzzlege. So once now this Newsom's lawyers are denying
(16:54):
that the state there was anybody from the state even there,
even though now we got photos of video of this
date rep walking the burnscar with LAFB firefighters. So they're
they're lying in court as of like two days ago.
So I don't know if they knew we had the
video photo Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, but they were definitely like, Spencer, can you stand
up for another segment? I got a longer segment coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, got time.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, just do a news break here, Debora mar Spencer
Pratt is with us going through the details of the
all the cover ups involving the Palisades fire.
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Right now we're talking to Spencer Pratt, the most outspoken
resident of the Palisades. He lost his home and the
former reality TV star has been absolutely relentless going after
the Newsom administration, the Beast administration, the LA Fire Department
and everybody, every agency, every official involved and the lack
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of preparation, the lack of response, the cover up, the
whole thing. And I gotta say, Spencer, you're just going
through a list of the cover ups from the first
first day or two was that's a long list. I mean,
we were just talking about it here in the studio.
You forget all this stuff because there have been so
(18:37):
many angles to this story covered up, and now it's
ten months old, and it's really good to go back
to the beginning and remind everybody the lies that were
told and the cover up that has been going on.
Do you get any blowback from anybody in government about
what you're doing? Anybody try to intimidate you to shut up?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Who knows I'm so locked in and they couldn't even
dream of it. I think the only people that I
ever you know, you know, trolls that will pop up
now since Newsom's best thing that he's done since destroying
the state is focusing on like just yelling about Trump.
So now people that don't like Trump think that if
I'm just attacking Newsom, they don't have any connection to
(19:22):
why I'm attacking Newsome for what he's done to my
town and a lot of California. So that's the only thing,
and that's newer since he started doing the whole you know,
look over here, look over here, don't look at Actually
I'm the worst person for the last twenty one years.
So other than that, know, and people got to realize
(19:42):
I do this because I interact with you know, eighty
year old like grandparents crying because they can't go back
and ninety years. You know, I interact with these people
that who lost everything. So you know, there's no they
can put fact all they want, there's nothing stopping what's
(20:02):
behind me. So what's just so crazy is people don't
realize that we talked about the palis States fire, but
this is gonna come. You know, I hate to say it,
but it's coming to the Hollywood Hills, it's coming to
bel Air, it's coming to This is just my areas
that I know I can't imagine out past what I
(20:23):
know in myligious radar. But the fact that posts Palistates fire,
they're still not doing the prescribe burns. There's still not
clearing the dead brush, they're still not doing the fire breaks.
It's scary that they truly have learned nothing from the
Palistates fire and twelve people burning alive, seven thousand structures,
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and it's just it's all Newsome. People don't realize it's
not climate change. Seven of the ten worst wildfires in
the history of California are during Newsome's rain his era.
So the time it didn't just decide, oh I knew
some in charge, I'm gonna make so many more fires
and burn everything. No, Heata doesn't know how to properly
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manage his state parks. And that's why the Palaces fire
is gonna be such an important message to you know,
our government is they're on the hook for this. This
is their property that they let just smolder for six days,
didn't monitor it, didn't bring they didn't need thermal let's say,
everyone's like, oh, we should have you know, you know,
the new chiefs like, oh, looks, we're gonna definitely use
(21:29):
thermal drones now now that we've learned our lesson. Didn't
need thermal drones. I know four firefighters that reached out
to the upper command and said, hey, it's smoldering, it's red.
There's smoke coming off of it, leading into a red flag.
It's not about technology, it's about people's negligence. So forget
even the LAFD. You know, you can look at it
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as once they put it out and they said at
publicly they thought it was dead out, it becomes the
state's responsibility. It's in their own man annual to close
the state park and make sure it's not a dangerous
condition for the community or what's next to it. So
their argument in court the other day was because of
the better precedent of this legal case, so like, oh, well,
(22:14):
better state park doesn't have massive amounts of gasoline sitting around.
So either they're the biggest liars or the worst attorneys
that don't even like know how to read their own
Instagram accounts like I posted one day ago. Cal fire
has a whole post and they're referring to vegetation management
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as fuels reduction. So what the lawyers for Newsomb state
attorneys don't get. You don't need gasoline. The entire state
park was fuel. It was forty sixty years of bed
brush just piling up next to people's houses. And they're
here's the best part. They go around giving tickets telling
(22:55):
us on our properties to clear our yards. They got
the new zone zero law they want to create where
you don't have any of these plants, which I'm not
saying that's bad or whatever. I'm just saying in the
old community, you get fined for not cutting your dead brush.
Yet they have it connected to everyone's houses. Just forty
years of just thick dead brush, which are old manual
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says that they're supposed to be clearing one hundred and
thirty feet of this dead brush connecting to all of
our houses. So you know the bigger picture. I'm excited
for the future because I do think when all's said
and done, and this is you know, Newsom goes down.
For this, California won't keep burning down because they're going
to learn a hard, expensive lesson. They should have already
(23:39):
learned it with people burning alive and you know, fifty
billion plus in people's properties, but they don't because they
actually don't care about any of us, which.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Is no, they don't.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Let me ask you something, what's the state of the rebuild?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And that's the other funniest thing. So you got Karen
Baths bragging is not funny, umor excuse me, Carabaths out
you're bragging the posts. I just did an executive order
to cut all the fees for rebuilding, knowing damn well
that her executive or means nothing and she needs a
super majority vote from the city council to even approve
(24:16):
waving the fees, which they have not waived. So out
of seven thousand plus structures, you know, there's arguments about
what the number is, but we're talking three hundred maybe
houses are being rebuilt, and like they're bragging about, like
one house just finished. That house was already in the
works before the fire. A lot of these properties they count,
(24:39):
and a lot of these permits they brag about. It's
that you're adding a pool, now you have to get
a new permit approof. So we're talking three hundred max.
Out of seven thousand. So there's no and it's impossible.
People are dealing with it now. They're fighting the LADWP
before underground the power lines, even though we have evidence
of these power lines having created new fires on January
(25:02):
seventh and January eighth with these poles going down. So
they're fighting to not underground power lines and they're trying
to charge everyone. So it's just a disaster after disaster.
And then they do little photos and igs with little
music and they're like, oh, repor rebuilding, we're doing the
fastest ever. Also, fastest ever in Los Angeles is the
(25:25):
slowest anywhere on planet Earth. So you can't even reference
fast and la like, oh, this is three times what
it usually takes. Well, it shouldn't have taken that, and
anywhere else. It's just like for instance, Senator Rick Scott
when he was out here for the Congressional like hearing,
he told me in Florida, with hurricanes, if they're not
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already rebuilding and houses aren't up within three months of
a hurricane, he said, the pitch forest come out. But
here we are ten months later. And you know the
other thing people that just don't even talk about is
everyone got destroyed with insurance because of Gavin Newsom. And
and it's Ricardo Laura who's out there on fifty vacations
(26:08):
on Safari with thirty thousand in bodyguards. I don't even
know what you won't even do what this guy looked like.
Yet he had thirty thousand bodyguards. So he's traveling around
the world. Let while we're all getting cooked by the
insurance companies because of course they don't want to ensure
these as they would say extreme fire zones. They're extreme
fire zones. Because anyone with the brain knows that Newsom
(26:31):
doesn't maintain his state parks and lets these environmentalists, but
he puts in charge so that he can be like, oh,
that's not me, that's carb Well, who elected the carb
frickin person. You wants you to an executive order and
get rid of these people and say we're trimming the
dead brush and they're fighting for things that all where
is the milk belch, it's all gone. Protective Butterfly, they're
(26:55):
all gone. We're the lizards, they're all dead.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I thank you for coming on. I'm out of time,
but I really enjoyed this and I want you to
come on again. All right. This is going to go
on for a long time, and whenever you've got whenever
you got no, I'm glad. I think a lot of
people listening have been captivated and probably understand this at
an even deeper level. And as you find things out,
you've always got a home here. All right. You got
(27:20):
great reach on social media and we got pretty good
reach here on the radio, and I think we could
do a good job spreading the word. So thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Thank you. Keep it up only ig plus I like
to share. Somebody with a brain is so left in
a zip code.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
All right, Thanks betcham. We'll talk again soon. Spencer Pratt
and Palis's fired.
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the ninety one first two hundred and fifty people get
special gift bags from Smart and final and then Saturday,
Neil Savage are broadcasting live from two to five at
the Wendy's and Mission Viejo on Alisha Parkway. All right,
so big big week or two coming up for Chef
Bruno and Caterina's Club and us here at KFI, and
(29:15):
just be your usual excessively generous self like you have
been for fifteen years now. Spencer Pratt's a hard act
to follow. We had him on for the last hour.
If you're just joining us or you got it in
the middle, I really really would listen to our three
of the podcast today and listen to him detail a
lot of the early cover up, a lot of the
(29:37):
early sins committed by Newsomb administration, Bass administration, the Fire Department,
and how much they have tried to cover up, and
all the lies they told and the phony excuses and
the propaganda and the nonsense that continues to this day.
I've told you for a long time that almost everything
public officials utter in California or lies in propaganda, and
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they had there was very little preparation for this, very
little execution to combat the fire, and now post fire,
everything's been covering up, covering it up, and lying there
and to think to think that the reason the state
may have chased those LA firefires away the day after
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the original fire was to protect the milk vetch plant.
I'd read this early on in the LA Times, and
I believe we talked about it. But that's what got
a state Parks representative to come down in the middle
of the night and get the LA Fire Department to
stop building a fire line. They couldn't have bulldozers in
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order to build a fire break to keep the fire
from spreading. And then you you bundle that with the
LA Fire Department taken off from a smoldering fire, and
again this you know, we got to separate because I
can see what this new fire chief is doing himimore
He's trying to take the obvious, clear criticism of fire
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management and say, oh, you're smearing the hard working firefighters
with their lives on the line. Boy, that is the
cheapest dodge in the world, and it may intimidate some people.
You may be trying to embarrass some people. That's silence.
It's not going to work here. It's not going to
work with Spencer Pratty either. Okay, I know what you're doing.
I had listened to public officials lie for a long
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time in Los Angeles. I have heard it all. I
know all your tricks and the trick here from Hoimimore.
The fire chief is to I think a Newsome word
is conflate to confuse people. Criticism of fire management is
not criticism of firefighters. If the firefighters screw up, we'll
say so. But this is fire management. And they're all
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covering their ass and all their other sorry body hearts
right now, and we are going to be relentless in
giving everybody the truth here, and God help us if
Newsom or Bass survive any of this. I have never
seen two people who deserve to be put out to pasture.
The two of them want to be put out to
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prison for what they've done. It's criminal negligence. We'll talk
more tomorrow See one and Michael Krazer is the news
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two o'clock hour, and Chat is among the top candidates
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we talked about many fascinating things and you'll have to
listen to find out what they were. That's the two
o'clock hour. Let's now talk to Spencer Pratt. Spencer Nay
(00:42):
may be familiar to you, even if you never saw
the reality TV shows that he was in over the years.
He is the one of the high profile Palisades just
citizen warriors going up, going up against the newsomb administration,
the administration, the cover ups going on in the fire department.
(01:03):
He lost his home in the Palisades fire and he
has been relentless since it happened, demanding to get truth
and to get action out of all the state and
local agencies who have failed all the people in the
Palisades in and Altadena as well. Let's get Spencer Pratt
on right now. Spencer, welcome, Thank.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You, thank you. My mom has been listening to you
my entire life, so I'm honored to be on her
favorite radio show.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I apologize for that. A lot of that was probably
against your will.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Still your biggest supporter.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well tell her, I say, I said, hi, and I'm
really flattered. I will Spencer you have. I will give
you a lot of credit because you are absolutely unrelenting.
A lot of people get angry, you know for a
day or two or a week. You have kept the
uh the torch going for ten months now and just
(02:05):
putting out real information and documents and videos and uh
we we've been following all your social media all these
months and gotten quite a lot of important information you
had that wasn't covered by the regular media in town.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Uh I guess well, they're they're in on the cover up.
So it's it's that's why. So That's what I've learned
is you know, even if they wanted to cover the stuff,
they can't because you know, there's ad dollars. It's just
this such a it is it's a conspiracy, you know,
so it's really hard to get the truth out. And
(02:41):
there are journalists that are, you know, do the best
they can, and I don't want to, you know, shame
them all, but one across the board. This is I
keep saying, like the biggest cover up ever. And I
mean I also keep saying they burned out in the
wrong person's house, they burned down the wrong person's parents.
Because I will do this for the rest of my
(03:02):
life and until every single person knows what truly went
on here. I'm not stopping. So everyone keeps on thinking like, oh,
maybe he'll burn out. They already burned me out, so
now I'm gonna burn down his lives.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Describe what you think the cover up entails, and I
know that's a broad question, but it is.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It is a broad cover up from Sacramento to Los
Angeles and law enforcement agencies here, the fire department, the media.
You're right on all those counts. I have exactly the
same opinion. What you describe what you think the cover
up is here?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean it's.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It started day one, when right away you got Newsome
lying in front of our burning town, talking about I
pre deployed all these califire when he didn't pre deploy
one thing that the palicy is leading in to a
red flag event. LAFD didn't pre deploy one thing leading
into So just from day one, in front of burning buildings,
(04:03):
with people's probably still burning alive in their houses, you
have Newsom lying you can't even get Karen bass Line
because she's busy on in Africa deleting all her messages
with their app. So you got the LADWP going backwards
in there, you know, in their logs, trying to change
you know when they supposedly went to turn off the power.
(04:25):
So I mean it started from the jump, and then
they went on with the hurricane winds. There was no
hurricane winds in the Pacific Palisades. The match winds were
thirty miles per hour. So they connect the Altadena fire,
which did have some serious winds, but it's a whole
different fire. It was clearly Edison's electrical equipment. Yes, it
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was actually in state park, which are state property which
people don't really talk about. So that's really also on Newsome.
But I digress in that that's a clear cut and
that's why people are always like, Spencer, why aren't you talking
about Altadena? The CEO of Edisto, they already said this
is them. They had ninety year old equipment that you know,
shot some sparks. So the difference is they did have
(05:09):
the wind, they did have the electrical We didn't have that.
What we had was two empty reservoirs. I live next
door to a reservoir, the Palisades Reservoir, not the Sandi
and as the Palisades Reservoir held was supposed to hold
six million gallons, and when they decided they were going
to drain one hundred and sixteen million gallon. When I
(05:32):
said they, jimnie quinnonas who makes seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars a year, and now also I think a
quarter million dollars in a security guard and a driver.
And then you also look at all the ledwts sown.
They're all making more than five hundred thousand dollars, which
good for them, right, But the fact is that for
one hundred and forty thousand dollars, it took over a
(05:53):
year to repair a rip cover on a on a
reservoir that wasn't even built for drinking waters. So that's
even a bigger who knows who got the kickbacks when
they decided to rebuild this reservoir into a ledge drinking
water reservoir that no one's drinking out of it. It
was built for wildfire protection. That's the it's quoted in
(06:14):
the La Times when the guy built it. Why they
did it was because there was the Mandeville fire back then,
and they're like, we need another thing to fight wildfires.
So they built that. So we got Jennie quinnonas knowingly
leaving two of the biggest resources for wildfires empty in
the Palisades, and then right away the day after the
(06:36):
cover up starts to go, oh, it wouldn't even matter.
Oh they was never designed for fighting structures past three,
What are they talking about? It mattered because the helicopters.
If it wasn't designed for wildfire, why do they have
the pumps that the helicopters connect to the reservoir. It's
because that's what it's for. So these helicopters for the
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first six hours of the palis As fire, they got
to fly to Pepperdine, they got to fly to Encino.
This is the most important time when a fire starts.
Is that initial attack to get the water on it,
and they're having to spend six and a half hours
of the actual time in the air going to get
the water thirty seconds we're talking Sanny and Z to
(07:21):
Lochman in one of these fire hawks or whatever they
called would have taken thirty seconds, but no, they got
to fly all the way to get the water. So
you got back to the bigger picture. The cover up
started instilling hurricane wins. We had three deployed, we were
ready for this. Oh the water was never meant for fires.
So and then it's I mean that's day two. Now
(07:46):
you know we're ten months later. You got the new
chief more the other day in the fire commission thing going,
I don't know about any of these text messages and
these reports. Excuse me, sir, you could have asked, because
on Saturday, do you win and shook hands with all
the the stations, sixty nine guys in the palacies, Why
don't you just ask them to their face or did
(08:07):
you or did you go there and tell them to
shut the f up and to stop, you know, trying
to tell the truth because the truth doesn't look good
for the fire family or whatever bs these politicians, because
that's what you'll learn all these upper brass firefighters, they're politicians.
They're not the boots on the ground, the guys behind
the hose. They operate at a different level. They just
(08:29):
they're just doing literally what Karen bass and what keeps
the bonuses. So these guys are all in on it too.
But then the real cover up, the one that's like
why we're on the phone today because I feel like
the La Times, I'm glad they're even digging into this.
They included me a piece about the state parks and
the Lockman fire, and I feel like some of the
(08:51):
bigger pieces of that article were kind of missed. So
for people don't understand what they've done in the cover
up is that first it was climate Oh my gosh,
you know New York Times is arguing me for two weeks.
How do you not say, this is climate change? New
some sets the wets or wetter the drivers or dryer,
blah blah blah. And then the AHF comes out with
(09:11):
their federal jestigation. No, now some it's an arsonist. Oh really, no,
the arsonists was January first, and now was eight acres.
The newsome bas La WP palass fire. That's twenty five
thousand acres. That's six days later. So you can't sit
here and try to blame a guy who we don't
you know, allegedly, we don't even allegedly is the arsonist
(09:35):
for the palace. As far this is on newsom baths
in the led.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Let me let me, let me just stop you for
a second. I got to do a commercial break and
get some news. We come back. I want to talk
more about the specific article in the La Times that
you refer to. Okay, Spencer Pratt, he is uh the
activist for the Pacific Palisades community. He lost his house
and reality television star, so's he's got a name, and
(10:02):
he's using that name to attract an enormous amount of
attention to everything that he just laid out. That all
those all those cover up bullet points that he went through. Yeah,
that was just day one.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A
M six forty.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
John Cobelt Show. We continue with Spencer Pratt, the reality
TV star has become the the the outspoken leader for
Palisades residents who are fighting the massive cover up and
the massive incompetence that led to the fire and persists
to this day, the cover up and the incompetence. And Spencer,
(10:47):
when we left, you were starting to address an article
in the Los Angeles Times today and this concern something
we have talked about this week. California State Parks sent
a representative to the site of the original fire and
apparently ordered LA Fire Department not to use a bulldozer
(11:08):
to cut a line around the fire because that would
harm a lot of the local plants that they felt
were endangered. To talk about this.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, so like in this article, it's very he said,
she said. Spencer said that California's State Parks tried to
restrict how firefighters bought the fire, and then she said
they didn't. Well, no baccheck, no conclusion. You don't have
to wait for the state park's confession. You could actually
research their state park policy documents like the one that
(11:39):
I have. I can set you the link where in
the job description of the c SP Resource advisor they're
explicitly taught to minimize in quotes, impacts the natural cultural
resources caused by wild land fire suppression. What does this mean? Well,
obviously by natural resources they mean plants. Their stated intent
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is to reduce the amount of plants being cut by
wild firefighters. The writing on their policies is literally in
bold bomb on the word suppression. They clearly see the
standard work of wildland firefighters to be a significant problem.
Can you reduce avoidable fresh impacts and still properly containing
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a fire? Sure, But at simple point of fact, the
purpose of this is that it precludes the firefighters from
just doing their job as they see fit, which given
the consequences, is preferable over the plant priority approach. So,
like I was trying to tell them, it's you know,
the LAFD is going to do their best to put
out a fire, but if when they arrive on site,
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if there's a state representative telling them they can't have
a dozer. And so that's kind of where the report
mixed up. That well, I was told by the battalion
chief wasn't about the mop up was when they got
there for the fire, So they can f the initial
attack and the fire line construction and the mop up
they're not the same thing. The dozers are used for
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the line construction, not mop up. So when the ARP
when they show up to tell the battalion chief who
I spoke with, and they have a map of where
there's a dozer exclusion zone, and this is during the
initial attack on January first, So I don't know what
the whole counterpoint. And the article someone says that dozers
(13:26):
aren't used for mop up. I was never saying that,
and neither is Alexander Robertson the lawyer. His quote is
they couldn't bring a bulldozer in the cut a line
around the fire, and they could not do mop up
with their hand tools. He's specifically villidating between dozer line
construction on the initial attack mop up with the hand tools,
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which was also restricted. So this whole thing about like
in the article, it's like, oh, this guy says Spencer
is wrong a former thing, we wouldn't use dozers. It's
actually in their own thing that they wouldn't use dozers
because of what he's saying that it's because of safety
upgrades and power equipment that that area was halted for
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dozers because of their milk belch plant and they were banned.
So the article is like, thankfully they're even like talking
about it, but it's just confusing the reader, like because
they bring in some retired LAFD guy. It's like, oh,
we would never use dozers. Oh yeah, uh. I never
said they would use them on the mop up. So
that's where it's a little nice frustrating.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, but you do have to wonder, now, I would
think that there'd be forces out there trying to discredit
you in some way, even if they're they're they're they're
nitpicking me on a mistake you didn't make.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, that's why I called in today, and you know,
because I wanted to come in studio and do a
whole thing with you, and I want to fit the schedule.
But then after this article is like, this is too
big of a thing for like paragraphs to be kind
of put. You know, I'm not saying I'm it's just
not the right order. So I will tell exactly what happened.
So I got a DM from a firefighter that was
(15:06):
on the Lochman mop up on January second, and he
told me, you know, a whole message. I posted it
and he said that he went up to the battalion
chief and he said it's still smoldering. We can't pull hose.
And the battalion chief looked at him, ignored him, and
said pulled the hose, and so when I heard that,
I was like, I'm tracking down this battalion chief. So
(15:27):
I got a hold of this battalion chief and so
you know, he in his defense, he doesn't believe that
it was smoldering. You know, we all obviously know he's wrong.
It was lots of videos. But that wasn't the takeaway
from our conversation, I said, because I was like, were
there any eight people there? Because I had heard that
there was a state right and he said yes. When
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we got to the fire, there was a woman from
the state with a map and she was showing all
the areas we couldn't touch fighting the January first fire
because of protected He said. His takeaway was he was
shocked how much protected area was up there and asked
to keep the map and she said no. And then
(16:09):
she also said they couldn't bring a dozer up. So
it's not a he said. She said, we're gonna subpoena
this guy, this battalion chief. He's gonna have to talk
under oath face perjury, and he's gonna say that they
were told no dozer, So it's not about the mop up.
The dozer could have been there for that night for
the initial fire, and think about the fire line that
(16:30):
that dozer would have created around the burns car. So
not the mop up the initial attack. And so we
now know the state didn't use any of their so
people will realize the state parks have their own fire trucks,
their own fire The whole team is like, I want
to say, there's at least eleven of these truck from
Malibny puzzlege. So once now this Newsom's lawyers are denying
(16:54):
that the state there was anybody from the state even there,
even though now we got photos of video of this
date rep walking the burnscar with LAFB firefighters. So they're
they're lying in court as of like two days ago.
So I don't know if they knew we had the
video photo Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, but they were definitely like, Spencer, can you stand
up for another segment? I got a longer segment coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, got time.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, just do a news break here, Debora mar Spencer
Pratt is with us going through the details of the
all the cover ups involving the Palisades fire.
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Right now we're talking to Spencer Pratt, the most outspoken
resident of the Palisades. He lost his home and the
former reality TV star has been absolutely relentless going after
the Newsom administration, the Beast administration, the LA Fire Department
and everybody, every agency, every official involved and the lack
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of preparation, the lack of response, the cover up, the
whole thing. And I gotta say, Spencer, you're just going
through a list of the cover ups from the first
first day or two was that's a long list. I mean,
we were just talking about it here in the studio.
You forget all this stuff because there have been so
(18:37):
many angles to this story covered up, and now it's
ten months old, and it's really good to go back
to the beginning and remind everybody the lies that were
told and the cover up that has been going on.
Do you get any blowback from anybody in government about
what you're doing? Anybody try to intimidate you to shut up?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Who knows I'm so locked in and they couldn't even
dream of it. I think the only people that I
ever you know, you know, trolls that will pop up
now since Newsom's best thing that he's done since destroying
the state is focusing on like just yelling about Trump.
So now people that don't like Trump think that if
I'm just attacking Newsom, they don't have any connection to
(19:22):
why I'm attacking Newsome for what he's done to my
town and a lot of California. So that's the only thing,
and that's newer since he started doing the whole you know,
look over here, look over here, don't look at Actually
I'm the worst person for the last twenty one years.
So other than that, know, and people got to realize
(19:42):
I do this because I interact with you know, eighty
year old like grandparents crying because they can't go back
and ninety years. You know, I interact with these people
that who lost everything. So you know, there's no they
can put fact all they want, there's nothing stopping what's
(20:02):
behind me. So what's just so crazy is people don't
realize that we talked about the palis States fire, but
this is gonna come. You know, I hate to say it,
but it's coming to the Hollywood Hills, it's coming to
bel Air, it's coming to This is just my areas
that I know I can't imagine out past what I
(20:23):
know in myligious radar. But the fact that posts Palistates fire,
they're still not doing the prescribe burns. There's still not
clearing the dead brush, they're still not doing the fire breaks.
It's scary that they truly have learned nothing from the
Palistates fire and twelve people burning alive, seven thousand structures,
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and it's just it's all Newsome. People don't realize it's
not climate change. Seven of the ten worst wildfires in
the history of California are during Newsome's rain his era.
So the time it didn't just decide, oh I knew
some in charge, I'm gonna make so many more fires
and burn everything. No, Heata doesn't know how to properly
(21:06):
manage his state parks. And that's why the Palaces fire
is gonna be such an important message to you know,
our government is they're on the hook for this. This
is their property that they let just smolder for six days,
didn't monitor it, didn't bring they didn't need thermal let's say,
everyone's like, oh, we should have you know, you know,
the new chiefs like, oh, looks, we're gonna definitely use
(21:29):
thermal drones now now that we've learned our lesson. Didn't
need thermal drones. I know four firefighters that reached out
to the upper command and said, hey, it's smoldering, it's red.
There's smoke coming off of it, leading into a red flag.
It's not about technology, it's about people's negligence. So forget
even the LAFD. You know, you can look at it
(21:51):
as once they put it out and they said at
publicly they thought it was dead out, it becomes the
state's responsibility. It's in their own man annual to close
the state park and make sure it's not a dangerous
condition for the community or what's next to it. So
their argument in court the other day was because of
the better precedent of this legal case, so like, oh, well,
(22:14):
better state park doesn't have massive amounts of gasoline sitting around.
So either they're the biggest liars or the worst attorneys
that don't even like know how to read their own
Instagram accounts like I posted one day ago. Cal fire
has a whole post and they're referring to vegetation management
(22:35):
as fuels reduction. So what the lawyers for Newsomb state
attorneys don't get. You don't need gasoline. The entire state
park was fuel. It was forty sixty years of bed
brush just piling up next to people's houses. And they're
here's the best part. They go around giving tickets telling
(22:55):
us on our properties to clear our yards. They got
the new zone zero law they want to create where
you don't have any of these plants, which I'm not
saying that's bad or whatever. I'm just saying in the
old community, you get fined for not cutting your dead brush.
Yet they have it connected to everyone's houses. Just forty
years of just thick dead brush, which are old manual
(23:16):
says that they're supposed to be clearing one hundred and
thirty feet of this dead brush connecting to all of
our houses. So you know the bigger picture. I'm excited
for the future because I do think when all's said
and done, and this is you know, Newsom goes down.
For this, California won't keep burning down because they're going
to learn a hard, expensive lesson. They should have already
(23:39):
learned it with people burning alive and you know, fifty
billion plus in people's properties, but they don't because they
actually don't care about any of us, which.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Is no, they don't.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Let me ask you something, what's the state of the rebuild?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And that's the other funniest thing. So you got Karen
Baths bragging is not funny, umor excuse me, Carabaths out
you're bragging the posts. I just did an executive order
to cut all the fees for rebuilding, knowing damn well
that her executive or means nothing and she needs a
super majority vote from the city council to even approve
(24:16):
waving the fees, which they have not waived. So out
of seven thousand plus structures, you know, there's arguments about
what the number is, but we're talking three hundred maybe
houses are being rebuilt, and like they're bragging about, like
one house just finished. That house was already in the
works before the fire. A lot of these properties they count,
(24:39):
and a lot of these permits they brag about. It's
that you're adding a pool, now you have to get
a new permit approof. So we're talking three hundred max.
Out of seven thousand. So there's no and it's impossible.
People are dealing with it now. They're fighting the LADWP
before underground the power lines, even though we have evidence
of these power lines having created new fires on January
(25:02):
seventh and January eighth with these poles going down. So
they're fighting to not underground power lines and they're trying
to charge everyone. So it's just a disaster after disaster.
And then they do little photos and igs with little
music and they're like, oh, repor rebuilding, we're doing the
fastest ever. Also, fastest ever in Los Angeles is the
(25:25):
slowest anywhere on planet Earth. So you can't even reference
fast and la like, oh, this is three times what
it usually takes. Well, it shouldn't have taken that, and
anywhere else. It's just like for instance, Senator Rick Scott
when he was out here for the Congressional like hearing,
he told me in Florida, with hurricanes, if they're not
(25:46):
already rebuilding and houses aren't up within three months of
a hurricane, he said, the pitch forest come out. But
here we are ten months later. And you know the
other thing people that just don't even talk about is
everyone got destroyed with insurance because of Gavin Newsom. And
and it's Ricardo Laura who's out there on fifty vacations
(26:08):
on Safari with thirty thousand in bodyguards. I don't even
know what you won't even do what this guy looked like.
Yet he had thirty thousand bodyguards. So he's traveling around
the world. Let while we're all getting cooked by the
insurance companies because of course they don't want to ensure
these as they would say extreme fire zones. They're extreme
fire zones. Because anyone with the brain knows that Newsom
(26:31):
doesn't maintain his state parks and lets these environmentalists, but
he puts in charge so that he can be like, oh,
that's not me, that's carb Well, who elected the carb
frickin person. You wants you to an executive order and
get rid of these people and say we're trimming the
dead brush and they're fighting for things that all where
is the milk belch, it's all gone. Protective Butterfly, they're
(26:55):
all gone. We're the lizards, they're all dead.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I thank you for coming on. I'm out of time,
but I really enjoyed this and I want you to
come on again. All right. This is going to go
on for a long time, and whenever you've got whenever
you got no, I'm glad. I think a lot of
people listening have been captivated and probably understand this at
an even deeper level. And as you find things out,
you've always got a home here. All right. You got
(27:20):
great reach on social media and we got pretty good
reach here on the radio, and I think we could
do a good job spreading the word. So thank you
for coming on.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Thank you. Keep it up only ig plus I like
to share. Somebody with a brain is so left in
a zip code.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
All right, Thanks betcham. We'll talk again soon. Spencer Pratt
and Palis's fired.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
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just be your usual excessively generous self like you have
been for fifteen years now. Spencer Pratt's a hard act
to follow. We had him on for the last hour.
If you're just joining us or you got it in
the middle, I really really would listen to our three
of the podcast today and listen to him detail a
lot of the early cover up, a lot of the
(29:37):
early sins committed by Newsomb administration, Bass administration, the Fire Department,
and how much they have tried to cover up, and
all the lies they told and the phony excuses and
the propaganda and the nonsense that continues to this day.
I've told you for a long time that almost everything
public officials utter in California or lies in propaganda, and
(30:03):
they had there was very little preparation for this, very
little execution to combat the fire, and now post fire,
everything's been covering up, covering it up, and lying there
and to think to think that the reason the state
may have chased those LA firefires away the day after
(30:25):
the original fire was to protect the milk vetch plant.
I'd read this early on in the LA Times, and
I believe we talked about it. But that's what got
a state Parks representative to come down in the middle
of the night and get the LA Fire Department to
stop building a fire line. They couldn't have bulldozers in
(30:50):
order to build a fire break to keep the fire
from spreading. And then you you bundle that with the
LA Fire Department taken off from a smoldering fire, and
again this you know, we got to separate because I
can see what this new fire chief is doing himimore
He's trying to take the obvious, clear criticism of fire
(31:14):
management and say, oh, you're smearing the hard working firefighters
with their lives on the line. Boy, that is the
cheapest dodge in the world, and it may intimidate some people.
You may be trying to embarrass some people. That's silence.
It's not going to work here. It's not going to
work with Spencer Pratty either. Okay, I know what you're doing.
I had listened to public officials lie for a long
(31:34):
time in Los Angeles. I have heard it all. I
know all your tricks and the trick here from Hoimimore.
The fire chief is to I think a Newsome word
is conflate to confuse people. Criticism of fire management is
not criticism of firefighters. If the firefighters screw up, we'll
say so. But this is fire management. And they're all
(31:57):
covering their ass and all their other sorry body hearts
right now, and we are going to be relentless in
giving everybody the truth here, and God help us if
Newsom or Bass survive any of this. I have never
seen two people who deserve to be put out to pasture.
The two of them want to be put out to
(32:17):
prison for what they've done. It's criminal negligence. We'll talk
more tomorrow See one and Michael Krazer is the news
Conway next live in the KFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey,
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