December 10, 2025 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (12/10) - Steve Hilton, leading Republican candidate for CA governor joins the show to talk about a tip line to report fraud in California that he is launching. More on the Cheviot Hills mental health facility scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
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on the iHeart app and first hour, we went through
the long list of California leads as the most unaffordable
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state in the nation, no contest. Highest housing costs, highest
rental costs if you want to rent an apartment, highest
gas prices, highest electricity prices, highest food prices, highest inflation,
and yet newsome with the hottest issue in the country
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being affordability. He's running for president with that record, and
that's only a tiny fraction of all the things that
we're either in last placed in or first place in.
And it's all bad stuff. So that's in the one
o'clock hour. And along those lines, we have the we
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spend more money than any other state in the nation.
We have the biggest budget deficit, we have the highest taxes,
highest income tax, ized gas tax, ice sales tax, and
there's all these programs where tens of billions of dollars
have disappeared. I've told you that seventy billion dollars has
disappeared in well, a total of seventy billion dollars has disappeared.
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If you just add up the unemployment money that we
sent out during the pandemic, and then you add the
high speed rail money, and then you add the homeless
money that knew some lost track of.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Comes up to about seventy billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And that's just you know, you try to give people
three examples, right, there's plenty of other stuff going on.
We're going to talk to Steve Hilton because we learned
about all the fraud going on in Minnesota with the
governor Tim Watts and the samma On community there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Then Maine yesterday checked in.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We had a story about the fraud there with the
Smiley community. Here there's a tremendous amount of fraud. And
Steve Hilton, who's a Republican running for governor, he wants
to set up some kind of way for whistleblowers to
start talking and to do a massive audit of the
whole mess in Sacramento. Steve Hilton, how are you welcome?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Great to be with you, John, You laid it out perfectly.
I can add another few billion to your total. Remember
the thirteen billion that Newsom is spending this year and
this budget year on free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Now
he's open about that, But that's fraud because that's not
supposed to be happening at all, and we all know
where that's going to end up. Look at the report
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that came out yesterday was the day before, about massive,
massive fraud in the medicaid system nationally. This is medicaid money,
remember that we're talking about it, called it medical. In California,
there was a this is from within the federal government itself,
from within medical They did a kind of test of
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their own systems and they found that forty percent of
the claims were fraudulent of the insurance that had been
set up people in what they's that was just published,
it was a sample. You just think, that's what and
you know that all of these things are going to
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be so much worse in California because we've had fifteen
years now of one party rule, no accountability, no competence
in the government, far left ideological extremism in the government
that is that has this attitude that the taxpayers are
just going to be milked. We're going to squeeze them dry,
take the money, grow our big bloated government, hand out
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the money to our favored constituencies in exchange for their
votes and their support. I mean, that's the way it
goes in these and it's it's been longer going on
like that California anywhere else. In Minnesota, you had one
party rule just for three years. Here we've had it
for fifteen. And the point about the whistle blows is
this what was so interesting about the Minnesota story, and
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more details are coming out all the time, is that
actually all along you had brave, honest date workers and
civil servants trying to alert people to this. There was
a letter signed by four hundred and eighty Minnesota civil
servants saying, we've been telling you about this for years.
The fake autism diagnoses for kids that was just a
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disgusting way of ripping off the taxpayer, the fake feeding
programs that never happened, and the nonprofits that made off
like bandits with all of this money, including sending many
much of it overseas. We had people blowing the whistle,
not trying to blow the whistle for years, and tim
walls and the Democrat machine in Minnesota silenced them, intimidated them,
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tried to shut them up. And so my response to
that is, let's get the stories out here. They're now
here in California. So we set up an anonymous tip line.
Very simple. You just go to the website califraud dot
com and tell us the stories they're flooding in. Honestly,
we're getting it. It's very simple and not you just
fill out the form. We get it. It's anonymous. And
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then when I'm governor, we're going to start to have
the information so we can stop this absolute disgusting ripoff
of taxpayers which has been going on for so long.
Now root out the corruption and the fraud. But we
need the information, and that's why I set up califraud
dot com. We're also promoting we add its depending my
campaign money on this. We put it out. We put
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ads in Capital Journal, where you got a lot of
you know, people in Sacramento working in these government agencies.
They read that it's on that website Capital Journal. We've
got an ad saying tell us what's going on. We
need to know the information because you can be certain
that so much of it is wayed. So it's just
one other little thing just to throw into the mix.
That insane story about the phone line. Did you cover
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this the high speed line to go with a high
speed rail? So this is Gavin Newsom in his first budget.
By the way, on high speed rail, he can say, wow,
that wasn't all me. That was you know, Jerry Brown.
And it's been going on for years. This one is
all him. In his first budget twenty nineteen, after he's
elected in twenty eighteen, Newsom says, we've got a totally
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antiquated system for emergency response phone calls. It's terrible, puts
lives that is, I'm going to modernize it. We're going
to have this new system. So here we are nearly
seven years later. They spent half a billion dollars on
this new phone line for emergency response, and they just
announced last week they're going to scrap it because it
doesn't work. And this is the guy that wants to
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be president of the United States. He can't even produce
a functioning phone line for half a billion dollars in
seven years. It's just a total joke.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's difficult to believe that all this is going on. Yeah,
we did talk about the nine one one service and
it's seven seven years. And when they try nothing worked.
They went they had twenty three stage, They had like
four hundred and fifty different nine to one one call centers.
They twenty three of them they tested out. They were
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all for twenty three. Every single one of them didn't function.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How do you do that? In by accident? You figure
something would have connected properly.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That's the point, and going back to how you started
the conversation, it actually takes a level of genius to
mess things up on this scale where we are literally
the worst performing states of all fifty states on pretty
much everything that matters. Highest taxes, highest costs of gas,
electric water, all the things you listed, highest poverty rate,
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highest unemployment rate, worst business climate. It's just insane that
they're able to be so bad on so many things
all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They'd never been punished, They never lose elections, they never lose.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Seen us in the Assembly. You're saying, I'm telling you
you're go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well that's what's going to change next year. We're going
to kick these people out. They've never faced a candidate
like me before who's got the business experience, government reform experience,
national media experience. I know my stuff. I've been working
on the policy for many, many years now. I know
this stuff. They don't. I just did a debate with
some of the Democrat candidates last Friday, and San Jose
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they just about talking points. They really don't know what
they're talking about. I'm going to tear these people apart
next year, and I'm really excited about it. We're going
to kick them out because you can't go on like this.
It is just too much to take for regular working
people getting screwed. The rich get richer, their friends and
cronies get richer all the time, their special interests in
the unions, and all the activists and Sacramento making out
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all this money, the homeless industrial complex, the nonpro all
this kind of scam that's been going on for so
many years, and regular working people are just thick of it,
thick of it. And we're going to rise up next
year and kick them out.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh guy, I really hope. So can you hang on
for another segment?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And baby, also, if you could think about tell me
how when we come back, how this califraud.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What's the name of the website again?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I want to get it right, callifraud dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Tellafraud dot com. What's going to happen when people contact
you with these stories of fraud and they act as
whistleblowers about what's happening in government. We'll talk more with
Steve Hilton when we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
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Speaker 2 (09:33):
John Cobelt's Show, and you can follow us some social
media at John Cobelt Radio. We continue with Steve Hilton,
one of the top candidates running for governor. He's a Republican,
he's a former a Fox News host, former advisor to
the British Prime Minister David Cameron, an entrepreneur and a businessman,
a very successful guy in many different fields. And you
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hear him talk and he makes perfect sense on what
needs to be done here in California. And so now
he's got something to take on all the California fraud
which we must be swimming in. You know, we've seen
what's going on in isolated cases in Minnesota and in
Maine and in California. Well, I went through all the
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list of obvious frauds with tens of billions of dollars missing.
Much of it's sent out of the country. So if
you go to califraud dot com, you are going to
come across Hilton's website where you scroll down and you'll
see a white box and you submit your story. Your
identity will be protected unless you choose to go public,
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and you describe if you have direct knowledge of fraud, waste,
or abuse specific incidents or practices inside any state agency.
Just write it in the white box and submit it.
Steve Hilton will continue talking to him. Now, Steve, Steve, So,
after somebody types in their their fraud story on your
whistleblower site, then what's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Are you going to be able to do?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, So we're collecting the stories people are writing in. Look,
it's very simple. Remember we're a campaign, we're a startup.
This is like one of the startups that I've done
in my career, and I hate wasting money and so
it's very simple and basic. I said to my team,
I want I want something incredibly easy to use but
incredibly cheap to make, and so that's what we've got.
It's very basic. But what we're doing is storing up
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the stories. Now, some of them I'm not going to
name names obviously because it's an anonymous but we're getting
stories of a lot of local government forward and stories
that people are really sick of what's going on around
them at the county level. The community collegists. There's a
lot coming in on community colleges and the money that's
being siphoned off in the name of fake enrollies in
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community colleges. So there's all these different stories coming up.
Here's the here's the plan. We're going to collect. Look
as the months go by, we're going to look at them.
My team's going to look at them, and we're going
to see, you know, is there a pattern here? Are
there things that we should be highlighting right now to
blow the whistle in a general way, not using the
individual names or stories unless people want to be public,
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but you know, points that we can make right now,
have a look at this what's going on there, and
often actually the right response will be for me to
work with an alert my friends in the federal administration,
the Federal Coument. Remember, you know, I've got lots of
good friendships and relationships there from you know, the President
on down Frankly, and I know you know obviously Brook
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Rollins and Seann Duffy and Pete Hegxeth and there's so
many you know, Doug Bergen, the Interior sectually, there's lots
of opportunity to take this to harm Eat Dillan is
a good friend, of course, the Justice Department doing such
great work hounding California for the ways in which it's
breaking the law. And you've got Bill A. Sale the
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US attorney who's been fantastic friend of mine, who's been
fantastic in pushing on the fraud and theft of our money,
especially in Los Angeles on the homeless industrial cart. Yeah, well,
we've had lots of ways we can get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Sorry, We've had Bill sale on, We've had Harmy diller
on a lot. I mean, I'd love to help and
be part of this where if you know, your organization
can get the whistleblower stories and you could start getting
investigated by Bill A. Saley or Harmy Dillon or anybody
in the administration. I could publicize all this so that
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people understand as we get into the campaign year, just
how deep the rot is, just how bad this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, it's then the follow what I want to and
I want to make this point, which is so that's
what we can do right now before I'm in office.
Once I'm in office, then we really get going. And
there's another aspect of this it's very important, which is
the there's an office. There's a statewide office which is
super relevant to this. It's called the State Controller, and
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the State Controller has the power to audit any entity
in seat of any state money. It's an incredibly powerful position,
and they can stop payments. The controller can stop money
going to any entity for any reason, So this is
really powerful. There's a guy running for state Controller called
Herb Morgan. He's down from San Diego. He's a very
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successful business guy himself worked in finance. He's exactly become
a person you want in this job. We are working together.
In fact, Herb and I made this announcement of all
of this together last week at the beginning of last week,
so he's going to be right there with me looking
at all these as we go along. But most importantly,
if you elect me to governor and you elect Herb
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to state Controller, you're going to have a team that's
super focused on actually rooting out all this and protecting taxpayers,
because that's in the end what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you guys will follow up after the audit, because
there's been a number of audits, like I think there's
been three major audits of high speed rail, and in
the end they go, you know what, there's no paperwork,
are no records, so the money just evaporated.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
We don't know where it went. And then there's no
follow up. That's it. That's the end of investigation.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
But also you've got because you've got the people in
charge have the wrong attitude. This is what you get
from the left. They so cavalier and casual about other
people's money. Yeah, put up the taxes, will hand it out.
They don't treat it as if they it's their money,
and they treat it as if it's their money, not
our money that is being forcibly extracted from us to
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taxes and we expect something in return. But you've got
a situation now in California where they take more and
more and we get less and less, and they just
don't care. And this is what you get from the left.
They have this ideological obsession with growing their power and
the government. They think government can solve all the problems,
even in the face of the evidence that they do
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the opposite. They create more problems than they solve. They
still keep taking our money. Now, the difference is when
we're there and you've got people in office who actually
have started businesses, deployed people, understand how hard that is,
Understand how disgusting it is to take money from hard
working taxpayers and small businesses to fund their ridiculous, fraudulent
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schemes that actually make things worse. It's a completely different
attitude we can have.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Even worse than their their attitude that they can solve
all the problems. They don't even try to solve the
problems anymore, because there's right exactly, they're just taking the money.
They're just stealing the money. There's so many hundreds of
nonprofits now connected to the government that are getting so
many billions of dollars in grants, and then they're employing
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all the friends and relatives of the politicians, and I'm
sure there's kickbacks flowing back and forth. It's a monster,
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
They're not interested now make.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Anybody exactly, and there was exactly. It's a job creation scheme,
it's a crony rewards scheme. I mean you look at
there's a very revealing moment in the general election campaign
last year presidential race, Kamala Harris, she visited some you know,
it was some business as a black owned business and whatever,
and there's a little extract to the conversation on the
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camp on cameras. It's a campaign stop and she asked
this this person, Oh, how are you doing for this
business and how's it going? And this person replied, Oh,
it's great. We've done really well. We're getting tons of
loads of grants, grants from the government. Like that's not
what business is. That's not how it's supposed to work.
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What are you talking about, Like that's the first thing
you say, Oh, yeah, we done really well getting money
from the government.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Excuse me.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's just unbelievable. But that's how these people think.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, no product, no service.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You just look at your bank account and you see, oh,
look at that some grant money has been deposited from
the state of California.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's that's the whole business.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's amazing. It's just insane. But this is here's the
good news. To leave people with the good news. It's
gone too far. We're going to turn it around. We're
going to kick them out in save California. That's twenty
twenty six. It's going to be very happy new Year.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You work in government at any level, califraud dot com
is your friend.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
C A L I, F R A U D.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's a very simple website to scroll down a bit
and it explains what they're doing. And you see a
white box and just type in your story. You'll be
granted complete anonymity unless you want to go public and
tell your stories, and Steve's a team will take it
from there. Thank you very much for coming on. I
really enjoy talking with you. I hope you can come
in studio sometime soon and we can talk an luger exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
All right, Thank you man, Thank you. Forward to Steve
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Merry Christmas is running for governor on the Republican side,
one of the top candidates and.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
A businessman.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's a great communicator, having hosted the show on Fox
for six years, He's got government experience. He's a top
advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron some years ago.
We will can we come back right in line with
what he's talking about? How about the scandal and Chevy
At Hills. We've talked about this several times. Two developers
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managed to uh, well, one of them has been indicted,
the other one has left his job.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Property that was purchased by one developer for eleven million
dollars under fraudulent terms, and then the second entity bought
the same property ten days later for twenty seven million
dollars sixteen million dollar appreciation in ten days. Where did
that extra sixteen million go? I'm going to talk all
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about it coming up.
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this story has been bubbling for some weeks. Now follow
the details here because this is the epitome of all
the corruption and all the theft of your attacks money.
I mean, this is a fantastic example. There is a
property in chevy Att Hills and a man named Stephen Taylor.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
From Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
He used fraudulent documents to get an eleven million dollar
loan to buy a housing project in chevyot Hills targeted
for homeless housing. Now, chevy at Hills is a very nice,
upscale community, and there's nobody in that town, in that
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neighborhood that wants this project for obvious reasons, right, nobody wants.
I don't know how many homeless people suddenly moving into
this thing, but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Y, Steven, I got to stay up front.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There are so many people walking amongst us, business guys,
government people who they get up in the morning and
their job each day is to steal our tax money.
And it's not like they're fooling anybody in government. The
people in government are part of the fraud. They're both
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in on it. And there's all these relationships, there's all
this this this invisible apparatus where people like Steven Taylor
and other others access money. And you'll see there's some
public tax money, a lot of public tax money that's
going to be involved. So just hang on for a minute,
all right. So Stephen Taylor buys this property in chevy
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At Hills for eleven million dollars. He then takes the property,
and that eleven million was a fraudulent loan that he
pulled off. He takes the property and flips it to
something called the Wineguart Center. It's a homeless services nonprofit.
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Uh oh, homeless services nonprofit. Wineguard paid twenty seven million
dollars ten days after Taylor spent eleven million to buy it.
In ten days, the property appreciated from eleven to twenty
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seven million dollars. Now, Taylor's eleven million dollars, as I said,
was a fraudulent loan. The twenty seven million dollars was
tax money, public money that Wineguard got to finance the
purchase and conversion of the building into a homeless housing project.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Now, who was the middleman in this or the middle woman?
Karen Bass?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She pushed for this project. Who ran Wineguard Center? A
guy named Kevin Murray. Kevin Murray used to be a
state senator, uh oh, a state senator. Now he's running
the Wineguard Center. He also was appointed by Bass to
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be on the board of the La County Affordable Housing
Solutions Agency. The LA County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency had
never heard of that?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, Kevin Murray was on the board. Bass appointed him.
Bass also pushed for Murray's company to buy the Chevy
At Hills property from Steven Taylor. H that Taylor's been
busted by the Feds over the eleven million dollar front
lung that he got. But now you got the twenty
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seven million dollars in public money. Where'd that go? I mean,
presumably they paid it to Taylor. An extra sixteen million
dollars they paid to Taylor. Well, where did that extra
sixteen million go? Could both sides have split the money?
Was there a third party involved? Was there somebody in
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Bass's office that got a cut?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's a lot of money? And they did this in
ten days? The uh, what's that? Current?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
First uncovered this deal and the thing gets sold twice
in two weeks for one price more ridiculous than the last.
The Los Angeles County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency, Kevin Murray
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was on the board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He now resigns. What did that agency do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They spent measure a sales tax revenue on affordable housing?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So he's running he's on the board of an agency
that spends the tax money meant for homeless housing. You
voted for an increase in measure a funding just last November.
Told you not to people did. And now we're finding
out that the guy running.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The agency.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Paid took twenty seven million dollars in tax money and
paid the first guy who bought it for eleven million
ten days earlier. Now I'm sure Steven Taylor wasn't keeping
the whole twenty seven million. Why would Kevin Murray spend
the twenty seven million? Again? Where did that money recirculate to?
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Last week, a Bass representative told the staff at the
La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency that Murray resigned November
twenty ninth. Of course, Murray is not commenting. Karen Bass
in her office not commenting. Murray has been placed on
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leave by the Wineguard Center. A second executive, Ben Rosen,
the director of real estate development. He's been placed on
leave while the nonprofit conducts an internal review into its
housing projects.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right because nobody knew what was going on.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So Rosen and Murray blowed twenty seven million dollars on
an eleven million dollar property, and it was fine by
everybody at the Lineguard Center. Until this story hit the media,
It's like, Wow, we're going to put them on leave
and do an investigation.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
This is just outrageous. This place used to be a
nursing home.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
People in a nursing homer usually very docile, they don't
really cause problems.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But homeless housing, Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Murray is claiming that he has no prior relationship with
Steven Taylor, no continuing relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And get this claim from Kevin Murray.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Taxpayers paid fair market value for the property. The fair
market value was eleven million, ten million. Ten days later
it's twenty seven million. And Kevin Murray says, well that's fair.
This is what we've got. And Bass was the broker
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on the deal. Keep voting the way you're voting.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
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Speaker 2 (27:53):
I've just been telling you how a couple of well
one developer at a nonprofit agency it looks like allegedly
may have conspired to bilk US taxpayers out of twenty
seven million dollars for a homeless housing project. There's been
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a lot of federal money, federal housing money stolen by
the government and the nonprofits, and Bill Saley, the US
the US attorney for this Central District in Los Angeles,
has said that if there's federal money involved, they're gonna
do an investigation if they get a whiff of any corruption.
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And I think there's obviously more than a whiff floating
in the air. And what's fascinating is, well, this is
what we were talking about the other night an Alex
Michaelson's CNN show. Gavin Newsom wants billions of dollars in
federal aid to rebuild after the fire. But my argument
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is because Trump's administration talk to him. Why would they
talk to him when it's been documented that he's blown
or lost billions of dollars for all kinds of things,
from homelessness to high speed rail to unemployment money. Why
would you give him more, even if it's for something
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noble like the Palisades and Altadena rebuilds. And the same
thing is going to be happening with federal money for homelessness.
It looks like the federal government is going to be
cutting the money that they give to the state and
to the city and county because the Feds aren't going
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to pay as much anymore. For subsidized permanent housing, and
they're squealing, claiming, well, this is going to create homelessness.
If we don't have the money for these projects, then
you're gonna have more homeless So get this. They take
billions of dollars in money, they waste it, they steal it.
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Homelessness goes up anyway, and then when the Trump administration
wants to cut off the federal funding, they go, well,
wait a second, you're going to end up with more homelessness. Well,
we got more homelessness after we paid all these billions.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now you're saying, if we stop giving you the billions, we.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Get more homelessness. Well, it looks like we get more
homelessness either way, do we. The difference is we don't
spend the billions because right now we get as system
where we're paying extra to get more homeless And so
the city in County wants to use the measure a
tax money that I told you not to vote for.
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They use the measure a tax money for that Chevy
Hills debacle. They want to use the Chevy. They want
to use the measure a tax money now to cover
what the Trump administration is cutting, and they should cut
it that's a hell of a threat. You cut our money,
you cut our funding, You're gonna end up with more homeless.
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It's like, hey, oh well, looks like we're screwity either way.
At least maybe we can keep some of the tax money.
You believe this. Nathia Rahman, that nut. She's the chairwoman
of a council's La City Council Housing and Homelessness Committee.
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You talk about somebody who's a complete and utter failure.
This is not a normal moment. We cannot treat it
like it's a normal moment. There is a potential for
the entire homeless service system that we have built here
to fall apart. Oh well, can you imagine if the
homeless services system fell apart. Wow, they're just upset. They
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can't steal the money anymore. So they're gonna they're gonna
cry that there's gonna be a big disaster coming.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
What are you gonna unleash seventy thousand homeless people on
the streets. We have seventy thousand homeless people on the streets.
You can't manufacture anymore, can you. They're acting like like
this housing money actually went for housing for the homeless.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
A lot of it didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It went into their pockets and the pockets of their
friends and relatives and their political benefactors.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What a scam, what a racket.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
If they built the housing, then the homeless will be
living in the housing, except they're not.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
They're on the street. So darn. There's not that much
housing to close, not much housing to empty out.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
These people were never put in the housing that we
already paid for. All right, more tomorrow. Hey, you've been
listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always
hear the show live on KFI AM six forty from
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We are on every day from one until four o'clock.
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and you can listen to what you missed. That's also
on the iHeart app and first hour, we went through
the long list of California leads as the most unaffordable
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state in the nation, no contest. Highest housing costs, highest
rental costs if you want to rent an apartment, highest
gas prices, highest electricity prices, highest food prices, highest inflation,
and yet newsome with the hottest issue in the country
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being affordability. He's running for president with that record, and
that's only a tiny fraction of all the things that
we're either in last placed in or first place in.
And it's all bad stuff. So that's in the one
o'clock hour. And along those lines, we have the we
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spend more money than any other state in the nation.
We have the biggest budget deficit, we have the highest taxes,
highest income tax, ized gas tax, ice sales tax, and
there's all these programs where tens of billions of dollars
have disappeared. I've told you that seventy billion dollars has
disappeared in well, a total of seventy billion dollars has disappeared.
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If you just add up the unemployment money that we
sent out during the pandemic, and then you add the
high speed rail money, and then you add the homeless
money that knew some lost track of.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Comes up to about seventy billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And that's just you know, you try to give people
three examples, right, there's plenty of other stuff going on.
We're going to talk to Steve Hilton because we learned
about all the fraud going on in Minnesota with the
governor Tim Watts and the samma On community there.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Then Maine yesterday checked in.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We had a story about the fraud there with the
Smiley community. Here there's a tremendous amount of fraud. And
Steve Hilton, who's a Republican running for governor, he wants
to set up some kind of way for whistleblowers to
start talking and to do a massive audit of the
whole mess in Sacramento. Steve Hilton, how are you welcome?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Great to be with you, John, You laid it out perfectly.
I can add another few billion to your total. Remember
the thirteen billion that Newsom is spending this year and
this budget year on free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Now
he's open about that, But that's fraud because that's not
supposed to be happening at all, and we all know
where that's going to end up. Look at the report
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that came out yesterday was the day before, about massive,
massive fraud in the medicaid system nationally. This is medicaid money,
remember that we're talking about it, called it medical. In California,
there was a this is from within the federal government itself,
from within medical They did a kind of test of
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their own systems and they found that forty percent of
the claims were fraudulent of the insurance that had been
set up people in what they's that was just published,
it was a sample. You just think, that's what and
you know that all of these things are going to
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be so much worse in California because we've had fifteen
years now of one party rule, no accountability, no competence
in the government, far left ideological extremism in the government
that is that has this attitude that the taxpayers are
just going to be milked. We're going to squeeze them dry,
take the money, grow our big bloated government, hand out
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the money to our favored constituencies in exchange for their
votes and their support. I mean, that's the way it
goes in these and it's it's been longer going on
like that California anywhere else. In Minnesota, you had one
party rule just for three years. Here we've had it
for fifteen. And the point about the whistle blows is
this what was so interesting about the Minnesota story, and
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more details are coming out all the time, is that
actually all along you had brave, honest date workers and
civil servants trying to alert people to this. There was
a letter signed by four hundred and eighty Minnesota civil
servants saying, we've been telling you about this for years.
The fake autism diagnoses for kids that was just a
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disgusting way of ripping off the taxpayer, the fake feeding
programs that never happened, and the nonprofits that made off
like bandits with all of this money, including sending many
much of it overseas. We had people blowing the whistle,
not trying to blow the whistle for years, and tim
walls and the Democrat machine in Minnesota silenced them, intimidated them,
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tried to shut them up. And so my response to
that is, let's get the stories out here. They're now
here in California. So we set up an anonymous tip line.
Very simple. You just go to the website califraud dot
com and tell us the stories they're flooding in. Honestly,
we're getting it. It's very simple and not you just
fill out the form. We get it. It's anonymous. And
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then when I'm governor, we're going to start to have
the information so we can stop this absolute disgusting ripoff
of taxpayers which has been going on for so long.
Now root out the corruption and the fraud. But we
need the information, and that's why I set up califraud
dot com. We're also promoting we add its depending my
campaign money on this. We put it out. We put
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ads in Capital Journal, where you got a lot of
you know, people in Sacramento working in these government agencies.
They read that it's on that website Capital Journal. We've
got an ad saying tell us what's going on. We
need to know the information because you can be certain
that so much of it is wayed. So it's just
one other little thing just to throw into the mix.
That insane story about the phone line. Did you cover
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this the high speed line to go with a high
speed rail? So this is Gavin Newsom in his first budget.
By the way, on high speed rail, he can say, wow,
that wasn't all me. That was you know, Jerry Brown.
And it's been going on for years. This one is
all him. In his first budget twenty nineteen, after he's
elected in twenty eighteen, Newsom says, we've got a totally
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antiquated system for emergency response phone calls. It's terrible, puts
lives that is, I'm going to modernize it. We're going
to have this new system. So here we are nearly
seven years later. They spent half a billion dollars on
this new phone line for emergency response, and they just
announced last week they're going to scrap it because it
doesn't work. And this is the guy that wants to
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be president of the United States. He can't even produce
a functioning phone line for half a billion dollars in
seven years. It's just a total joke.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's difficult to believe that all this is going on. Yeah,
we did talk about the nine one one service and
it's seven seven years. And when they try nothing worked.
They went they had twenty three stage, They had like
four hundred and fifty different nine to one one call centers.
They twenty three of them they tested out. They were
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all for twenty three. Every single one of them didn't function.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How do you do that? In by accident? You figure
something would have connected properly.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That's the point, and going back to how you started
the conversation, it actually takes a level of genius to
mess things up on this scale where we are literally
the worst performing states of all fifty states on pretty
much everything that matters. Highest taxes, highest costs of gas,
electric water, all the things you listed, highest poverty rate,
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highest unemployment rate, worst business climate. It's just insane that
they're able to be so bad on so many things
all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They'd never been punished, They never lose elections, they never lose.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Seen us in the Assembly. You're saying, I'm telling you
you're go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well that's what's going to change next year. We're going
to kick these people out. They've never faced a candidate
like me before who's got the business experience, government reform experience,
national media experience. I know my stuff. I've been working
on the policy for many, many years now. I know
this stuff. They don't. I just did a debate with
some of the Democrat candidates last Friday, and San Jose
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they just about talking points. They really don't know what
they're talking about. I'm going to tear these people apart
next year, and I'm really excited about it. We're going
to kick them out because you can't go on like this.
It is just too much to take for regular working
people getting screwed. The rich get richer, their friends and
cronies get richer all the time, their special interests in
the unions, and all the activists and Sacramento making out
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all this money, the homeless industrial complex, the nonpro all
this kind of scam that's been going on for so
many years, and regular working people are just thick of it,
thick of it. And we're going to rise up next
year and kick them out.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh guy, I really hope. So can you hang on
for another segment?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
And baby, also, if you could think about tell me
how when we come back, how this califraud.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What's the name of the website again?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I want to get it right, callifraud dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Tellafraud dot com. What's going to happen when people contact
you with these stories of fraud and they act as
whistleblowers about what's happening in government. We'll talk more with
Steve Hilton when we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
John Cobelt's Show, and you can follow us some social
media at John Cobelt Radio. We continue with Steve Hilton,
one of the top candidates running for governor. He's a Republican,
he's a former a Fox News host, former advisor to
the British Prime Minister David Cameron, an entrepreneur and a businessman,
a very successful guy in many different fields. And you
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hear him talk and he makes perfect sense on what
needs to be done here in California. And so now
he's got something to take on all the California fraud
which we must be swimming in. You know, we've seen
what's going on in isolated cases in Minnesota and in
Maine and in California. Well, I went through all the
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list of obvious frauds with tens of billions of dollars missing.
Much of it's sent out of the country. So if
you go to califraud dot com, you are going to
come across Hilton's website where you scroll down and you'll
see a white box and you submit your story. Your
identity will be protected unless you choose to go public,
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and you describe if you have direct knowledge of fraud, waste,
or abuse specific incidents or practices inside any state agency.
Just write it in the white box and submit it.
Steve Hilton will continue talking to him. Now, Steve, Steve, So,
after somebody types in their their fraud story on your
whistleblower site, then what's going to happen?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Are you going to be able to do?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, So we're collecting the stories people are writing in. Look,
it's very simple. Remember we're a campaign, we're a startup.
This is like one of the startups that I've done
in my career, and I hate wasting money and so
it's very simple and basic. I said to my team,
I want I want something incredibly easy to use but
incredibly cheap to make, and so that's what we've got.
It's very basic. But what we're doing is storing up
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the stories. Now, some of them I'm not going to
name names obviously because it's an anonymous but we're getting
stories of a lot of local government forward and stories
that people are really sick of what's going on around
them at the county level. The community collegists. There's a
lot coming in on community colleges and the money that's
being siphoned off in the name of fake enrollies in
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community colleges. So there's all these different stories coming up.
Here's the here's the plan. We're going to collect. Look
as the months go by, we're going to look at them.
My team's going to look at them, and we're going
to see, you know, is there a pattern here? Are
there things that we should be highlighting right now to
blow the whistle in a general way, not using the
individual names or stories unless people want to be public,
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but you know, points that we can make right now,
have a look at this what's going on there, and
often actually the right response will be for me to
work with an alert my friends in the federal administration,
the Federal Coument. Remember, you know, I've got lots of
good friendships and relationships there from you know, the President
on down Frankly, and I know you know obviously Brook
(12:31):
Rollins and Seann Duffy and Pete Hegxeth and there's so
many you know, Doug Bergen, the Interior sectually, there's lots
of opportunity to take this to harm Eat Dillan is
a good friend, of course, the Justice Department doing such
great work hounding California for the ways in which it's
breaking the law. And you've got Bill A. Sale the
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US attorney who's been fantastic friend of mine, who's been
fantastic in pushing on the fraud and theft of our money,
especially in Los Angeles on the homeless industrial cart. Yeah, well,
we've had lots of ways we can get it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Sorry, We've had Bill sale on, We've had Harmy diller
on a lot. I mean, I'd love to help and
be part of this where if you know, your organization
can get the whistleblower stories and you could start getting
investigated by Bill A. Saley or Harmy Dillon or anybody
in the administration. I could publicize all this so that
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people understand as we get into the campaign year, just
how deep the rot is, just how bad this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, it's then the follow what I want to and
I want to make this point, which is so that's
what we can do right now before I'm in office.
Once I'm in office, then we really get going. And
there's another aspect of this it's very important, which is
the there's an office. There's a statewide office which is
super relevant to this. It's called the State Controller, and
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the State Controller has the power to audit any entity
in seat of any state money. It's an incredibly powerful position,
and they can stop payments. The controller can stop money
going to any entity for any reason, So this is
really powerful. There's a guy running for state Controller called
Herb Morgan. He's down from San Diego. He's a very
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successful business guy himself worked in finance. He's exactly become
a person you want in this job. We are working together.
In fact, Herb and I made this announcement of all
of this together last week at the beginning of last week,
so he's going to be right there with me looking
at all these as we go along. But most importantly,
if you elect me to governor and you elect Herb
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to state Controller, you're going to have a team that's
super focused on actually rooting out all this and protecting taxpayers,
because that's in the end what this is all about.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you guys will follow up after the audit, because
there's been a number of audits, like I think there's
been three major audits of high speed rail, and in
the end they go, you know what, there's no paperwork,
are no records, so the money just evaporated.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
We don't know where it went. And then there's no
follow up. That's it. That's the end of investigation.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
But also you've got because you've got the people in
charge have the wrong attitude. This is what you get
from the left. They so cavalier and casual about other
people's money. Yeah, put up the taxes, will hand it out.
They don't treat it as if they it's their money,
and they treat it as if it's their money, not
our money that is being forcibly extracted from us to
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taxes and we expect something in return. But you've got
a situation now in California where they take more and
more and we get less and less, and they just
don't care. And this is what you get from the left.
They have this ideological obsession with growing their power and
the government. They think government can solve all the problems,
even in the face of the evidence that they do
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the opposite. They create more problems than they solve. They
still keep taking our money. Now, the difference is when
we're there and you've got people in office who actually
have started businesses, deployed people, understand how hard that is,
Understand how disgusting it is to take money from hard
working taxpayers and small businesses to fund their ridiculous, fraudulent
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schemes that actually make things worse. It's a completely different
attitude we can have.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think I think it's.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Even worse than their their attitude that they can solve
all the problems. They don't even try to solve the
problems anymore, because there's right exactly, they're just taking the money.
They're just stealing the money. There's so many hundreds of
nonprofits now connected to the government that are getting so
many billions of dollars in grants, and then they're employing
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all the friends and relatives of the politicians, and I'm
sure there's kickbacks flowing back and forth. It's a monster,
is what it is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
They're not interested now make.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Anybody exactly, and there was exactly. It's a job creation scheme,
it's a crony rewards scheme. I mean you look at
there's a very revealing moment in the general election campaign
last year presidential race, Kamala Harris, she visited some you know,
it was some business as a black owned business and whatever,
and there's a little extract to the conversation on the
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camp on cameras. It's a campaign stop and she asked
this this person, Oh, how are you doing for this
business and how's it going? And this person replied, Oh,
it's great. We've done really well. We're getting tons of
loads of grants, grants from the government. Like that's not
what business is. That's not how it's supposed to work.
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What are you talking about, Like that's the first thing
you say, Oh, yeah, we done really well getting money
from the government.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Excuse me.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's just unbelievable. But that's how these people think.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, no product, no service.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You just look at your bank account and you see, oh,
look at that some grant money has been deposited from
the state of California.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's that's the whole business.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's amazing. It's just insane. But this is here's the
good news. To leave people with the good news. It's
gone too far. We're going to turn it around. We're
going to kick them out in save California. That's twenty
twenty six. It's going to be very happy new Year.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You work in government at any level, califraud dot com
is your friend.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
C A L I, F R A U D.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's a very simple website to scroll down a bit
and it explains what they're doing. And you see a
white box and just type in your story. You'll be
granted complete anonymity unless you want to go public and
tell your stories, and Steve's a team will take it
from there. Thank you very much for coming on. I
really enjoy talking with you. I hope you can come
in studio sometime soon and we can talk an luger exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
All right, Thank you man, Thank you. Forward to Steve
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Merry Christmas is running for governor on the Republican side,
one of the top candidates and.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
A businessman.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's a great communicator, having hosted the show on Fox
for six years, He's got government experience. He's a top
advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron some years ago.
We will can we come back right in line with
what he's talking about? How about the scandal and Chevy
At Hills. We've talked about this several times. Two developers
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managed to uh, well, one of them has been indicted,
the other one has left his job.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Property that was purchased by one developer for eleven million
dollars under fraudulent terms, and then the second entity bought
the same property ten days later for twenty seven million
dollars sixteen million dollar appreciation in ten days. Where did
that extra sixteen million go? I'm going to talk all
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about it coming up.
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this story has been bubbling for some weeks. Now follow
the details here because this is the epitome of all
the corruption and all the theft of your attacks money.
I mean, this is a fantastic example. There is a
property in chevy Att Hills and a man named Stephen Taylor.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
From Brentwood.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
He used fraudulent documents to get an eleven million dollar
loan to buy a housing project in chevyot Hills targeted
for homeless housing. Now, chevy at Hills is a very nice,
upscale community, and there's nobody in that town, in that
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neighborhood that wants this project for obvious reasons, right, nobody wants.
I don't know how many homeless people suddenly moving into
this thing, but.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Y, Steven, I got to stay up front.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
There are so many people walking amongst us, business guys,
government people who they get up in the morning and
their job each day is to steal our tax money.
And it's not like they're fooling anybody in government. The
people in government are part of the fraud. They're both
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in on it. And there's all these relationships, there's all
this this this invisible apparatus where people like Steven Taylor
and other others access money. And you'll see there's some
public tax money, a lot of public tax money that's
going to be involved. So just hang on for a minute,
all right. So Stephen Taylor buys this property in chevy
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At Hills for eleven million dollars. He then takes the property,
and that eleven million was a fraudulent loan that he
pulled off. He takes the property and flips it to
something called the Wineguart Center. It's a homeless services nonprofit.
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Uh oh, homeless services nonprofit. Wineguard paid twenty seven million
dollars ten days after Taylor spent eleven million to buy it.
In ten days, the property appreciated from eleven to twenty
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seven million dollars. Now, Taylor's eleven million dollars, as I said,
was a fraudulent loan. The twenty seven million dollars was
tax money, public money that Wineguard got to finance the
purchase and conversion of the building into a homeless housing project.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Now, who was the middleman in this or the middle woman?
Karen Bass?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
She pushed for this project. Who ran Wineguard Center? A
guy named Kevin Murray. Kevin Murray used to be a
state senator, uh oh, a state senator. Now he's running
the Wineguard Center. He also was appointed by Bass to
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be on the board of the La County Affordable Housing
Solutions Agency. The LA County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency had
never heard of that?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, Kevin Murray was on the board. Bass appointed him.
Bass also pushed for Murray's company to buy the Chevy
At Hills property from Steven Taylor. H that Taylor's been
busted by the Feds over the eleven million dollar front
lung that he got. But now you got the twenty
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seven million dollars in public money. Where'd that go? I mean,
presumably they paid it to Taylor. An extra sixteen million
dollars they paid to Taylor. Well, where did that extra
sixteen million go? Could both sides have split the money?
Was there a third party involved? Was there somebody in
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Bass's office that got a cut?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
That's a lot of money? And they did this in
ten days? The uh, what's that? Current?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
First uncovered this deal and the thing gets sold twice
in two weeks for one price more ridiculous than the last.
The Los Angeles County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency, Kevin Murray
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was on the board.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He now resigns. What did that agency do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
They spent measure a sales tax revenue on affordable housing?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
So he's running he's on the board of an agency
that spends the tax money meant for homeless housing. You
voted for an increase in measure a funding just last November.
Told you not to people did. And now we're finding
out that the guy running.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The agency.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Paid took twenty seven million dollars in tax money and
paid the first guy who bought it for eleven million
ten days earlier. Now I'm sure Steven Taylor wasn't keeping
the whole twenty seven million. Why would Kevin Murray spend
the twenty seven million? Again? Where did that money recirculate to?
(26:01):
Last week, a Bass representative told the staff at the
La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency that Murray resigned November
twenty ninth. Of course, Murray is not commenting. Karen Bass
in her office not commenting. Murray has been placed on
(26:22):
leave by the Wineguard Center. A second executive, Ben Rosen,
the director of real estate development. He's been placed on
leave while the nonprofit conducts an internal review into its
housing projects.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Right because nobody knew what was going on.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So Rosen and Murray blowed twenty seven million dollars on
an eleven million dollar property, and it was fine by
everybody at the Lineguard Center. Until this story hit the media,
It's like, Wow, we're going to put them on leave
and do an investigation.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
This is just outrageous. This place used to be a
nursing home.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
People in a nursing homer usually very docile, they don't
really cause problems.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But homeless housing, Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Murray is claiming that he has no prior relationship with
Steven Taylor, no continuing relationship.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
And get this claim from Kevin Murray.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Taxpayers paid fair market value for the property. The fair
market value was eleven million, ten million. Ten days later
it's twenty seven million. And Kevin Murray says, well that's fair.
This is what we've got. And Bass was the broker
(27:41):
on the deal. Keep voting the way you're voting.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I've just been telling you how a couple of well
one developer at a nonprofit agency it looks like allegedly
may have conspired to bilk US taxpayers out of twenty
seven million dollars for a homeless housing project. There's been
(28:14):
a lot of federal money, federal housing money stolen by
the government and the nonprofits, and Bill Saley, the US
the US attorney for this Central District in Los Angeles,
has said that if there's federal money involved, they're gonna
do an investigation if they get a whiff of any corruption.
(28:36):
And I think there's obviously more than a whiff floating
in the air. And what's fascinating is, well, this is
what we were talking about the other night an Alex
Michaelson's CNN show. Gavin Newsom wants billions of dollars in
federal aid to rebuild after the fire. But my argument
(29:00):
is because Trump's administration talk to him. Why would they
talk to him when it's been documented that he's blown
or lost billions of dollars for all kinds of things,
from homelessness to high speed rail to unemployment money. Why
would you give him more, even if it's for something
(29:20):
noble like the Palisades and Altadena rebuilds. And the same
thing is going to be happening with federal money for homelessness.
It looks like the federal government is going to be
cutting the money that they give to the state and
to the city and county because the Feds aren't going
(29:44):
to pay as much anymore. For subsidized permanent housing, and
they're squealing, claiming, well, this is going to create homelessness.
If we don't have the money for these projects, then
you're gonna have more homeless So get this. They take
billions of dollars in money, they waste it, they steal it.
(30:08):
Homelessness goes up anyway, and then when the Trump administration
wants to cut off the federal funding, they go, well,
wait a second, you're going to end up with more homelessness. Well,
we got more homelessness after we paid all these billions.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Now you're saying, if we stop giving you the billions, we.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Get more homelessness. Well, it looks like we get more
homelessness either way, do we. The difference is we don't
spend the billions because right now we get as system
where we're paying extra to get more homeless And so
the city in County wants to use the measure a
tax money that I told you not to vote for.
(30:46):
They use the measure a tax money for that Chevy
Hills debacle. They want to use the Chevy. They want
to use the measure a tax money now to cover
what the Trump administration is cutting, and they should cut
it that's a hell of a threat. You cut our money,
you cut our funding, You're gonna end up with more homeless.
(31:06):
It's like, hey, oh well, looks like we're screwity either way.
At least maybe we can keep some of the tax money.
You believe this. Nathia Rahman, that nut. She's the chairwoman
of a council's La City Council Housing and Homelessness Committee.
(31:26):
You talk about somebody who's a complete and utter failure.
This is not a normal moment. We cannot treat it
like it's a normal moment. There is a potential for
the entire homeless service system that we have built here
to fall apart. Oh well, can you imagine if the
homeless services system fell apart. Wow, they're just upset. They
(31:48):
can't steal the money anymore. So they're gonna they're gonna
cry that there's gonna be a big disaster coming.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
What are you gonna unleash seventy thousand homeless people on
the streets. We have seventy thousand homeless people on the streets.
You can't manufacture anymore, can you. They're acting like like
this housing money actually went for housing for the homeless.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
A lot of it didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It went into their pockets and the pockets of their
friends and relatives and their political benefactors.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What a scam, what a racket.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
If they built the housing, then the homeless will be
living in the housing, except they're not.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
They're on the street. So darn. There's not that much
housing to close, not much housing to empty out.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
These people were never put in the housing that we
already paid for. All right, more tomorrow. Hey, you've been
listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always
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