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July 3, 2025 32 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (07/03) - Best Of The John Kobylt Show. Businessman John Alle comes on the show to talk about the decline of Santa Monica. Richie Greenberg comes on the show to talk about the fact that San Francisco was rated the worst run city in America. A BBC anchor corrected her teleprompter script live on air.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt
Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on every day
from one until four o'clock. After four o'clock, John Cobelt's
show on demand on the iHeart app. We occasionally talk
about Santa Monica because Santa Monica is just in a terrible,
frightening shape. When I moved to Los Angeles, Santa Monica

(00:25):
was one of my first favorite places to go, to
Third Street Promenade, And now I live near Santa Monica
and I kind of can't avoid being there frequently. And
there are parts of it that are so frightening because
the homeless people, really crazy street people, really scary, dirty, disgusting,

(00:49):
and they're allowed to roam free. They've ruined a park
that my wife and I used to like to walk
in all the time. She won't go in there. We
can't park in the parking garages because there's homeless people
living there and urinating and defecating walking the blocks are scary,
And last time I walked down the Santa Monica streets

(01:11):
at night, absolutely terrified and said never again. I mean,
while we were I think we were at the entrance
to a store. We were going to get something to
eat on the promenade and a crazy homeless guy ended
up getting tackled by the police across the way. There's
all this pushing and shoving and yelling. There's a commotion.
They've destroyed the Third Street promenade. They've destroyed a shopping center.

(01:38):
Nordstroms is the anchor. And again there's like seventy percent
of the stories moved down. It's almost entirely due to
homelessness and the crime connected to homelessness. John Alley's been
on our show many times, Santa Monica businessman, and now
the latest we read a story on the West Side
Current is that the library are uninhabitable because there's so

(02:02):
many crazy drug addicts and mental patients and vagrants in there.
Let's get John on. He was quoted in the story,
how are you good?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's an honor. John's good.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's good to have you on. Let's talk first about
that Westside Current story about the libraries, which I'm sure
most people in the world think are still sanctuaries if
you don't mind the term, where children and everybody else
can come and read, or learn to read, or you know,
engage in you know, intellectual activities, right, peaceful activities, and

(02:36):
what I've got in there now and the stories that
I've done on it, it's filled with creepy guys watching
pornography on computer screens. They're in the bathrooms bathing themselves.
They're using their needles and leaving the needles everywhere, and
they're just terrifying people there. There's fights outside. Why are

(02:57):
they allowing this? Well, and I know it's been going
on for many years, and everybody keeps asking why.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, Jamie's peace was spot on. We think the media
is hiding these stories often from the residents and the businesses,
and it's too bad. It's not only that the boards
and the commissioners and the city council people are at fault,

(03:25):
but the vendors are at fault. The vendors are getting
contracts longer than the terms of the city council members
staff looks at them right now. We've got a guard
service we've talked about inside the libraries, just outside getting
in even on a day of a special retreat on

(03:46):
a Saturday at eight o'clock in the morning, when the
city Council was there, the city manager, all department heads
and residents and voters were asked to come and listen.
It was impossible to enter from the main entry doors,
so what the staff did was open the side stairwell

(04:08):
and everybody went up that way and sidetracked three homeless
people who Jamie tagged in her in her article. But
that happens on a daily basis. There's parking on the
side and good Guard security is the latest. The last

(04:28):
one was allied. Universal Time magazine did an article about them.
They interviewed me. I told them I wasn't working. I
told the city. So the city hired a new group.
And the cars are ghost cars. They're getting out, they're
not staying there, and they come back at the end
of their ships and leave. And we're seeing this as recently,

(04:52):
John as yesterday we saw two guys on mes in
the parking lot given it to Sunday, two guys on meth,
two people having a fight, and we spoke to them
and to income. They're cartel members. They work with their cartel,

(05:12):
their vendors. They come from the pier, they were finished
for their job and they flat out told us that Sinaloa,
that gang and MS thirteen is deeply involved in Santa
Monica and most of the people are from south of
the border. And you join or you have to watch

(05:34):
your back. And these people are coming from skid Row
and they're coming from the carts a Park west Lake
and you can see them in various areas of Paletatees Park,
sometimes Repark, but on the pier with the rainbow colored
umbrellas selling everything from fruits to bake goods.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And they're from the drug cartels, from the drug cartels.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
They've told us. We've had long conversations with them, and
they're not afraid to tell us because that's how they're
able to eat, and that's how they're able to make money.
They're not even buying food. They're they're admittedly walking in
to Trader Joe's target and stealing what they need to
get for that day.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And are they and they're reselling it under those umbrellas.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
No that that's that those items are given to them
by the cartel. There are warehouses around the city that
they're using, but they get paid their share and they
leave and most are on bikes, most are walking, so
they can't carry much. They've just got enough to last
for the rest of the day or evening. But we've

(06:52):
brought this up to the library board. You spoke about
the main librarian as far back as March and eight
and March. In April this year, we contacted them and
we said, we'd like to speak at your meeting. We
see your agendas. The agendas are great, but nowhere on
the agenda is are there a topic of safety or crime.

(07:16):
Safety and crime are never mentioned. And you can't even
get into the library without seeing some sort of altercation.
And we've asked the guards there and they're very frank.
There's guards in the library lobby and forty five to
fifty percent of the people there coming during the day
are men. And those same men have told us they're

(07:40):
coming to charge their phones, charge their computer, charge their phone,
usually use the bathroom and stare forty five and fifty
five year old woman. Not really healthy for kids, And
that's what we're trying to take notice.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Let me ask you something. I'm making a leap here.
Do the people in city government know everything that you're
telling me. The people at the libraries know, and they're
afraid of angering the drug cartels, so they've turned over
Santa Monica to the cartels because they can't fight them.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You'd believe that, we'd believe that we, the librarians and
even the park maintenance people are afraid to speak up
because under our former city manager they would be reassigned,
put on leave, and in areas and expertise that they
weren't familiar with. So there was a lot of repercussion

(08:33):
and a lot of retaliation under the former city manager,
and the city council said they couldn't do anything about it.
They needed five votes out of seven. So the San
Monica Coalition did something about it. Through pr we exposed
the fact that in one of his most recent last jobs,
the city manager had used illegally several funds and he

(08:58):
retired it. We did something the city council couldn't get done.
And this isn't the first time. This has been going
back for four or five years. Again under the same librarian.
About four years ago, there was a porn shot at

(09:19):
Ocean Park Library inside during the day, in the children's
section of all places, the city looked the other way.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Come on, wait a second, l they were shooting porn
videos and the city looked the other way. Really, you
look the other way.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
We never found out who gave him permission to shoot
inside how they got inside. Police then under the former chief,
promised to investigate, but as usual, the public never was
given any of the results. Never There was an independent
newspaper that did a freedom of information request and much

(10:00):
what they got was redacted. Names were oute. It was
just very bland, very vanilla, and it was forgotten. And
this is how Santa Monica works. It's a microcosm of
a big city LA.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
All right, can you hang on the line. I want
to continue with this in just a moment. By the way,
the director of the Santa Monica Library system is Erica
by you again, and people should know that this woman
is allowing this to go on. She's allowing porn to
be shot inside a Santa Monica library, among all the
other things that John Ally is talking about. He's with

(10:35):
Santa Monica Coalition. People just have no idea. And now
to know that the park that my wife and I
have been walking through for years is actually controlled by
Mexican drug cartels. This is so heartbreaking and overwhelming.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Somebody asked to do this from one to four o'clock.
Then after four o'clock If you miss stuff, John cobelts
show on demand on the iHeart app. We continue with
John Alley, Santa Monica businessman, Santa Monica Coalition. We were
discussing first the story on the West Side Current about
the horrific conditions in the library with homeless people and

(11:22):
mental patients and drug addicts, and people shooting pornography videos
in the library and everybody looking the other way, and
drug cartel members controlling Palisades Park and other areas. John
is and I only got a few minutes. It Is

(11:44):
there any response from the public. Are they all cool
with this? They must be afraid. There must be a
majority that's terrified and discussed and set up with this.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, they recognize it. A portion of the grand money
that they received the library, for instance, comes from the Feds.
The Feds have the history museum in the main library.
They get money for that. They don't want this to
go public. That could be why there's nobody talking about it.
But the city council members, most of them have truly

(12:18):
become agents of chaos, doubling down on stupid. Our Vice
mayor in December announced during a city council meeting the
necessity to trump proof the city. That's what we're dealing with.
We just don't demand accountability from leaders.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So how did these people, How did these people, assuming
I'm assuming they were normal at some point in their life,
how did they start to embrace all kinds of deviant, dangerous,
sick behavior by so many people in so many places
that used to be safe family spaces. How I mean,

(12:57):
it's almost like that they've caught some kind of tech
rrible viral disease in their brain.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Selfish and political and financial. The city is run by SMUR.
That's what's that short for Santa Monica for renters Rights.
It started forty five years ago, and that was when
rent control was the major issue. Rent control is not
going anywhere. It's like social security in Santa Monica at least,

(13:25):
it's not going anywhere. And every election they make that
the cornerstone of who they should vote for. So they
have the majority on the city council and groups on
these boards.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
But that's separate from allowing all the mental patients and
the drug addicts taking over the parks and the libraries
and the beaches. Why do they want that. It's got
nothing to do with rent control.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, it didn't seem to bother them when we lost
the Beach Volleyball. It didn't seem to bother them when
we lost the American Film Institute for three weeks, millions
and millions of dollars. They just don't care, all right.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
At the inside, political people, I get it, they got
a winning organization there. They're probably all profiting from from
their group. What about just regular homeowners, just people. I
know a lot of people in Santa Monica who are
just normal people with families. There aren't enough of them.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Seventy one percent rent, and that's seventy one percent. Quite
a few come in for high tech jobs and leave.
We're making great gains by getting the attention of homeowners
who are seeing this go into their own backyards. In
areas north of Montana and the leaf areas of Santa

(14:52):
Monica and the areas of single family residences, we're seeing this.
They're being affected. Every home and every street in the
residential areas of Santa Monica interestingly has an alley. Most
of them don't go into the alleys at night, even
to mper their trash. And even the renters who live
in un control departments, the landlords have to have guards.

(15:14):
Now many of them do, and you know that raises
the cost six hundred one thousand a month. So it's
not just on the promenade right now, the petty theft
thirty five four hundred dollars a day. It's in the
residential neighborhoods and it's spreading. So we're finally giving the
attention and the cooperation of more homeowners. We're going to

(15:36):
be having a meeting coming up soon. And one great
thing that I think we've done is we're limited in
city council meetings as to what we can discuss and
how long usually six minutes. They loath the city council
meeting with so many items that interested citizens that want
to come and voice their opinion are cut off. And

(15:59):
if there's more than a certain number in line and
they're willing to wait, they still can't talk or they're
limited to a minute. So we've done is something different.
We've created. We're calling it space on X at the
SMC Coalition. So we're hosting a public space on X
account beginning tomorrow prior to the council meeting and continuing

(16:24):
through the council meeting so engage citizens who have to
travel at dusk and then wait hours for the council
to hear items on the agenda, most of which come
up after they go into closed session and enjoy a
great careter dinner and come back two hours later. Most
of them have to wait to talk or go home
and come back. So as the line calls X the

(16:44):
public square, it only seems right that we have a
place for public comment through our public space on X
as people are prevented from getting their own comments out
there from time to time, and too many items are
placed on each council agen a period. So we're going
to all right, I'm gonna bol people be able to talk.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, John Ally, thank you. We'll have you on again.
Got to run, got to do the news. Debor Marko.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Ron every day one to four o'clock. After four o'clock
John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and
you could hear what you miss. San Francisco has come
in last. It's the worst run city in the country.
According to wallet hub. They did a study. They ranked
one hundred and forty eight major cities in the United

(17:37):
States one hundred and forty eight cities, and San Francisco
came in one hundred and forty eighth, and Oakland, right
across the Bay, came in one hundred and forty sixth.
The best city top ranked was Provo, Utah. The bottom

(17:58):
five Sad Francisco, Detroit, Oakland, New York, and Philadelphia and
Los Angeles was number one. Worst quality of roads, We
have the worst roads in the nation. Time for Richie
Greenberg to come on. Richie's a writer and commentator up
in San Francisco. When we always get him on whenever
there's big Bay area news. Richie, how are you?

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Congratulation great, thanks so much, and a belated happy birthday
to you as well.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Oh, thank you very much. You actually reside in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Right, Yes, I do, right in the city on the
west side, not too far from the ocean.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
How does it feel to live in the worst run
city in the nation?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Oh at two years in a row? Yeah, Detroit two
years ago.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Yeah. But you know what when I went through this report.
When I went through, the first thing I was wondering
is what was the time frame that they were using
the researchers and the polls and all of that. When
they compile the report, was it like a calendar year
of twenty twenty four and now and now they're releasing
it now or was it a shot a snapshot in time,

(19:10):
which I think it was in April, because that would
indicate there'd be more indicative of who is the mayor
at that point. Was it the previous London Breeder who
we threw out, or is it the new mayor London,
Daniel Lourie, who now has a lot of work cut
out for him to try and stop this such negative publicity,

(19:30):
because that's what this is. It's going to be continued
negative publicity that he is really trying to push back against,
you know, and that's what's important to me.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
But you got to look at see.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Why why are we one forty eighth out of one
forty eight and is there any redeeming qualities that we
haven't actually we do. I don't know if you if
you looked at the report, I mean it was you know,
kind of lengthy. We are number one in the best
of infant mortality in other words, survivability. We have the

(20:07):
highest we're number one in the least amount of infant
for infant mortality.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
All right, So they're not killing the babies exactly. That
is a positive.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
That is a positive. Yes, So if that's a worry,
maybe you want to move to San Francisco, because then
the chances I.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Didn't think they were I didn't think they were making
too many babies in San Francisco. But I guess whatever
they made they've been able to keep.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, and that's another issue as well. We are among
the lowest or the lowest of major metropolitan cities in
the country in terms of number of children in households,
very very low. But you know, this whole thing, it
is a combination of multiple factors. This has to do
with financial responsibility and accountability and health.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
That's what this is about.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
And it surely shows what happens when you have sanctuary
city and ideology here that comes into play. You know
it is it is ruined the tax base. People are
continuing to be leaving San Francisco. We've lost several thousand
tech jobs. When other cities, even right across the Bay

(21:20):
are gaining. We are still losing in the tech sector.
So that plus we have the decimation of our retail sector,
the downtown office occupancy is still dismally low. So this
is why it then is reflected in a report like
this where we are among the highest saddled with long

(21:45):
term debt that.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Was also part of this.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
The outcome of this report, we are pretty much at
the bottom. There also the insane budget. We have a
sixteen billion dollar proposed budget by the new mayor which
pretty much rivals the crazy amount of sixteen billion from
the last mayor London Breed. And even though Daniel Lurry,

(22:11):
the mayor, Mayor Lurry is trying to make some heads
and or tails of this and trying to push for
cuts in certain certain departments and agencies. Like just two
days ago, there was a takeover of the City council
weekly meeting by the SEIU, you know the union. They yeah,

(22:33):
the union. One hundred union members took over the City
Council chambers chanted for twenty minutes. That's all they do, man, exactly, stop,
don't do, not cut any jobs. They wound up having
to postpone the meeting two hours and I don't know
eleven or clo got arrested.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
This is the end of civilization. Yeah, well, it really
is the end of when you're when you're raided the
worst city in the end entire nation, and you still
have unions chanting and busting up city council meetings. This
is true in sentive. This progressive religion is more destructive.

(23:12):
You can do this so much damage if you dropped
the nuclear bomb on San Francisco. What they have done
to the city is just shocking.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Absolutely. And you know we also rank at the bottom
one hundred and forty eighth out of one forty eight
in high school graduation rates. I mean this is good.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
So they can't and they can't do math, and they're
going to take over the government.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
And settled with the longest long term debt.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yes, and wow, you know, yeah, what do you do?
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
People they I travel a lot and people ask me,
as are things really that bad in San Francisco, And
I say, well, you.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Know, we have the natural beauty.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
We've got pretty clean air in terms of in California.
But right on the water with the cold.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Breeze, yeah, I got a good breeze there every day. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
As opposed to air pollution quality down at showing down
in LA You're you're pretty much towards the bottom of
the of the pile and we.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Have the worst roads. Aha, we have the worst roads,
not you.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Well, it's only off by three. I'm look at the
other right now, you're tied ely long Only Long Beach
and Anaheim tied at one twenty nine and we're one
twenty six up here in Denverton.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
All right, well that would really.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We're going to be number one by ourselves next year. Richie,
I gotta go. Thank you for coming on again.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, my pleasure anytime.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
John Richie Greenberg, writer and commentator up in San Francisco.
San Francisco worst city in the nation according to a
wallet hub study, coming in one hundred and forty eighth
out of one hundred and forty eight city studied. Oakland
is number one six. But we are number one, and
he's right tied with Long Beach in Anaheim, we are
tied for the worst roads. You remember when the idiot

(24:58):
voters refused to repeal the gas tax they fell for
a Gavin newsom ad campaign. How the gas tax increase
was needed for the roads. Yeah, and I told you
they're not going to spend it on the roads. The
roads aren't going to be approved. This was probably seven
years ago. Yeah, roads not roads are not improved. In fact,

(25:23):
they're worse than Ever, how could La Long Beach in
Anaheim all have the worst roads in the in the nation.
Got the state the nation with the highest gas taxes
in the nation. We got more coming up.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
We're on from one until four every day. In Great Britain,
they call the news anchors on television news presenters.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
I like that you can call me that you.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Are a radio presenter.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
Well, I'm a new I'm a radio news.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Radio news presenter. Yes, this woman works for the BBC.
Her name is Martine Croxel. She's been there for over
thirty years. And you know sometimes you get bad copy
written by a newswriter. Oh yeah, yeah, sometimes you have
to decode it on the floor. Me too, Yeah right, Well,

(26:30):
she had one of these woke idiots in the newsroom
who gave her some copy with a phrase that no
normal person uses. You're going to hear her correct the
script live on the air.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine House released research
which says that nearly six hundred heat related deaths are
expected in the UK Malcolm Mystery, who is involved in
the research, says that the aged pregnant people women and
those were pre existing health conditions, me to type precautions.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
The aged aged comma pregnant people. And then she corrected
it and called pregnant people women.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Well I caught that.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
And rolled her eyes. Might have been more obvious on video,
but uh yes, she she she got she got upset
because she saw the phrase pregnant people. What about aged, well,
aged is old people. It's like two separate categories. I
know you don't like agent.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
I don't No, I don't know. It's just it sounded very.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
Pregnant, too prong aged pregnant people, I mean aged pregnant women.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
Whatever, it's it's weird. That was written, very strange.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
That is very bad, badly written by all counts. Uh
she she rolled her eyes and uh she she'd seen
this on the on the teleprompter. Uh. It was research
from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical The British
used the English language, but they don't use it in

(28:12):
the same way we do. And the newscast went viral
on social media, with most people happy that she corrected.
That is the worst phrase I've ever heard in my life.
Pregnant people. I don't think taken like the most sacred
thing that women are capable of doing. I mean, the

(28:34):
just the single thing, the very top thing that separates
men from women. They have the ability to reproduce and
make a new human being in their womb. Yeah, and
they won't give it. Credit to the to the to
the sex, to the species that can pull this off.
There is no person who gives pregnant, who gives birth

(28:58):
to a child who's a man. That's another thing. It's
not a thing. Oh, I was giving a list of
stuff that's not a thing here in California. How California
thinks it's its own nation. No, it's not. You can't
violate all these laws, you can't violate the Constitution. This
is another one. Pregnant men, not a thing doesn't exist.

(29:26):
I started. You know, occasionally I look up stuff on
the internet, medical sites, big medical sites, you know, the
Male Clinic, the Cleveland Clinic. Right, might be some medical
issue I hear about my family, or there's a story
that has a medical issue, and I go to these
medical sites to see what they say. And I run

(29:47):
across these bizarre, woke phrases like sex assigned at birth,
not boy or girl, whatever, sex assigned at birth, that
there's no such thing. You're born a certain sex. It's
not a sign to you. There isn't a committee of

(30:08):
sex assignment experts. And this is part of the crap
that that's just like a sewage system of garbage phrases
and garbage concepts. That's total nonsense. You were a pregnant woman, Yes.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
I'm still a woman. I'm no longer pregnant.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
That would have been a long overdue biase.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Yes, it would. That story went somewhere. I never thought
it would.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
I thought it was going to be about you know,
when you're heavy and you ask somebody, hey, are you pregnant?

Speaker 7 (30:47):
You're not sure if they're heavy or they're pregnant.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, I thought, Yeah, anybody ever grab your your pregnant belly?

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Yeah, I think there were people that touched me.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It became like a public Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
My wife was in a restaurant once in Malibu and
first baby, she looked really pregnant, right, and a woman
actually walked up to her and grabbed your belly and
shook it and said, God, are you having triplets?

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Oh geez.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Yeah, Oh what'd your wife do?

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Did you kick her?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
She might have tilted. She might have tipped over.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
That's crazy. I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Apparently if you stick out far enough people think that
it's uh no, don't touch out of the public space,
all right, Debora Mark Lyden, Oh we come back. Did
you know that Gavin Newsom helped his mother commit suicide?

Speaker 8 (31:39):
And you're not supposed to say commit suicide? You have
to say died by suicide. Uh huh, that's that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Where'd you get that one?

Speaker 7 (31:48):
The deed Hirsh Mental Health Center?

Speaker 8 (31:50):
And I mean, but it's it's it's definitely because when
you we used to say you commit suicide, and it
makes it seem like it's a crime.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Oh so they like, so it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, all right, Well we'll get into the Newsom situation
coming up, Debora Mark Live in the KFI twenty four
hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt
Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on
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