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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Now we're going to start right away with Corbyn Carson
from KFI News because we do have a verdict. You
may have heard in the shooting of that six year
old boy, Aiden Leos. This is from maya, twenty twenty one.
He was sitting in the backseat of his mother's car
and the murderer's girlfriend cut off Aiden's mom. Her name
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was is Joanna Kloonan, and then Klunen responded by flipping
the finger to the girlfriend and the killer Marcus Ares
and Ariz responded by pulling out a gun, firing it
at Na Klunan's car and hitting Aiden. Bullet went right
through the back and entered his heart. We have a
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verdict today. It was a murder trial. Let's get Corbyn
Carson on. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
John.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We talked about this several times since the trial started
last Thursday. Really quick trial. The defense did not call
any witnesses.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Marcus A.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Reves did not testify on his behalf and he had
guilt was never in question. The Reeves had confessed to
investigators in an over an hour long confession that was
he was asked repeatedly, you know why he did this,
and so forth, We've talked about all that, and so
it all boiled down to is this going to be
voluntary manslaughter or is this going to be second degree murder?
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And a jury of ten men and two women deliberated
for less than two hours between yesterday and this morning
and came back quickly guilty on all counts that would
be the second degree murder shooting an occupied vehicle, and
then enhancements for both charges for the use of a firearm.
And so the man faces forty years at sentencing set
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for next month. You know, Orange County DA Todd Spitzer
spoke outside. He said, this is a guy who killed
this little boy because they flipped him off.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh sorry, you know this always happens with you, John.
It must be you that's causing just.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Kidding here I sh out disruptive energy.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Here's Todd on what he about this boy?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Excuse me about Marcus Arives who killed this guy because
a woman flipped him off.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
His life take him six years old. She had to
bury her son, His sister had a bury her brother.
Their father had to bury a son. It's not the
normal order of events. We don't predecease our children. That's
why this has hit home, I think with everybody in
Orange County and across America, because you don't your children
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don't die before you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And then that's important.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He said, it hit home with everybody in Orange County
because when this happened, there was this sixteen day man
hunt for who shot Aidan Laos, There was half a
million dollar reward, there were you know, warrants out, and
there were press conferences daily and this was you know,
it was national news. What happened to this six year
six year old boy. And so now we have an answer,
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and now we have the end of this trial. We're
still waiting for one more trial for the co defendant.
That's Winnie Lee. She was driving the car. That's Ares's girlfriend.
She's doing court next month, and what are the going
to be the charges against her. She's only facing accessory
after the fact. So this has all you know, at
first they were they were going to try him together,
but it looks like, you know, this has really focused
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in on a ree. So it remains to be seen.
I spoke with we spoke with the prosecutor again, who
was with the DA at the end, and he wouldn't
give us much because you know, there's still a trial
to be coming. But we'll we'll have to see what
happens with that next month. But I will tell you
you and I talked about this as far as voluntary
or involuntary and manslaughter, and we finally got we are
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finally now able to hear from the prosecution side about
what they thought about.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Should this be voluntary manslaughter? And the defense.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Spitzer brought up brought up two arguments that he was
really up He says he was really upset about first.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
He attacked Joanna the mother and as if when she
came by the car and she gestured to women and
mister Airy's the defendant, that somehow it was Joanna Klunion
that put a set of events in place that would
allow somebody then to grab a gun from behind the
driver's seat cock it right, put around in the chamber,
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rolled down a window and then aim and fire towards
a moving vehicle because of that event.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And he says, the jury of twelve, you know, ten men,
two women in Orange County, they didn't agree with that
that somehow this could ever be the mother's fault.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Spitzer said, that's offensive. I mean, John, as.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Parents, we all know she will personally never forgive herself
for that gesture, and even prosecutors acknowledged that in court.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But Spitzer said, this is all the shooter's fault.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He's still there here. Sorry, clip, I'm sorry. That was
my bust.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And I did have one because I said he had
just bat He had two arguments that he had a
prop with. Finally, the big one is this voluntary manslaughter
or is this murder?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And that is a legal definition.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It came down to what did he did, what was
his intent, what was his state of mind? And Spitcher
pointed out there was something more, a message to all
road raged drivers out there that there was something more
at stake.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Here, and had the jury allowed that to be voluntary manslaughter,
if they had bought defense's argument, they would have sent
a message that it's okay to carry a gun in
your car and if somebody comes by and you get
into some kind of exchange and you fire your weapon,
you are only responsible for voluntary manslaughter. This jury said no.
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Dan Feldman said no.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the prosecutor.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Investigator Hill said no. Todd Spitzer said no. Johanna Klunan
said no, and twelve jurors when asked, is this your
vert it? They said yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
All right, Well it's well said as always by Todd.
He's absolutely right. I mean, if the minimum standard to
justify murder is you flipped somebody off, yeah, well, there's
gonna be a lot of mayhem out there.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, any kind of cutting off people. I mean, it's
happening all the time, and that kind that came up
in court. People get cut off all the time. And
it was funny because the defense made an argument that
the standard is does what would the average person do
in similar situations?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What an average person do?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
And I was sitting there thinking, well, you know, there's
a lot of people in this courtroom, but only one
person is charged with murder, so the average would be
us sitting here, and it only happened to one guy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I've never heard of a case like this where a
mother flips off a driver. The girlfriend who cut Joanna
Cloonan off, Yeah she did cut off, all right, So
she flips the bird and you know everybody's well, dever
does that regularly and the response is a a gunshot
to kill your child.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I mean, it was just a most absurd case.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And I said this the other day, this is the
worst defense I've ever seen, because there's no defense. Randall
lyeth Hune, the defense attorney, said it was a profound mistake,
a rash decision by a young man. No, because of
what Todd Spitzer said, because you got to reach over,
pull out the gun, get around in the chamber, cock
the pistol, lean out fire. That's a lot of decisions
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that you make to get to that's.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
The intent, right, and then the malice. The malice is
this was a trained gun owner. They brought that up
in court. He knew what would happen. And just like
a dui when you get in the car drive and
someone kills everyone knows and you point a gun. I mean,
they said, this is the most this is the inherently
best example of something dangerous. You shoot at someone, something
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deadly can happen.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, all right, very good, Garbon, Thanks thanks a lot
for coming on Carbon Carson from KFI News and for
once it's good news. Marcus Ares he's the guy who
shot six year old Aiden Leos Maya twenty twenty one,
after Arise's girlfriend Winnie Lee cut off the mother Joanna
kloonan Joanna flips Winnie and Marcus erise the bird and uh,
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well you you know the restse pulls out the gun
and shoots.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
And just for the record, I've controlled myself.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Controlled yourself, all right, because I watch you on this
monitor here. Yeah, you've been flipping people off constantly, just
hear them.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
And we're not driving, and you don't have a gun.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
One all right. You know what we got coming up
at one thirty? Oh my god, We've got two really
really terrible laws that are coming possible laws after one thirty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I couldn't believe this morning. Every time there's a bad law,
the name attached to the bad law in California is
San Francisco State Senator Scott boy And if ever a
name described a person fully, yeah, Scott Wiener, listen to
the latest. He wants all cars in California to have
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what they call a governor, a speed governor that would
mechanically prohibit you from driving more than ten miles an
hour over posted speed limits. Seriously, like you could never
drive more than ten miles past the speed limit. There
may be some goodie goods out there say, well, yes,
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it should be that way. Well, hum, I'll give you
an example.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We come back. White should not be that way.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
You're listening to John Cobeltch on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All right, one thirty, we are going to have Jabber on.
His organization fights all sorts of stupid traffic laws that
come from cities, counties, and the state government and is
often successful fighting them off. He certainly raises a lot
of awareness because most people don't know what's going on
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and how they're constantly trying to interfere and make your
life more difficult. Well, this is a whopper from the
vegan brain of Scott Wiener. Scott Wiener is a state
senator from San Francisco, and.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I know how do they think of these things?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He would require that all cars are trucks, beginning with
the twenty twenty seven model year, any of them that
are built or sold in California. We'll have something called
a speed governor something to limit the speed of your
car to prevent you from driving more than ten miles
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an hour over posted speed limits. I'm not making this up.
This is a real bill. They've decided that there's an
epidemic of traffic deaths in California and the Bay Area,
and that speed is involved in a third of the deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I read.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, this is something I gotta go find. I
read stuff and I file it away. There is a
story I read not too long ago, and it confirmed
what instinctively I thought was going on here. First of all,
the government lies a lot about traffic deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
They lie about the causes of the deaths because this
progressive obsession that we're dealing with wants to eliminate cars.
That's the ultimate goal. And they're willing to take decades,
step by step incrementally to limit and then eliminate your
motor vehicle. And by the way, the hardcore they don't
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want to lecture cars either, don't don't want electric, they
don't want gas. They don't want you in a car.
They want you walking on a bike, or on a
bus or a train. Those are the four options that
they want to limit you to ultimately, so this step
would slow down your car. Now, I looked at some
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research that was done, and they found out that the
increase in traffic deaths, let's say, in LA comes from
certain neighborhoods at certain times of day.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The neighborhoods are where there are more homeless people.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The times of day was late afternoon, early evening when
the homeless and we're likely to be ambling about in
their drug stoopers, and there's obviously more traffic on the road.
So if you have more people stumbling around, and we've
all seen them in the street, right and we've all
seen their homeless camps spilling over into the street. And
I've had guys jump in front of me while I'm
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dry on San mave Santi Boulevard when they allowed that
stupid homeless encampment in front of the VA for four years.
I'd make a turn off Wilsher, go up Sam Vicente,
and guys would just jump out from behind their tents
and you had to do a constant you were like
zigzagging around bodies and crazy people. Well, of course, a
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certain percentage of those people get run down, and that
is one of the big reasons that there's allegedly been
more fatalities. I don't have all the numbers here, and
I certainly don't trust Scott Weener, but letting people live
in the streets while they're drunk, drugged up, mentally ill, yeah,
some of them are going to get run down, so
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they're going to use that excuse now to limit our speed.
Now I can tell you this. I was one and
I've told both these stories before, but I'm not going
to tell them at any length. Here happened to my
wife and I once we got chased. Oh, it was
a road rage thing. My wife did something I think
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cut a guy off as we're going up north on
betting A Canyon. It was late on a Friday or
Saturday night, and we started getting flashed. Somebody was flashing
headlights at us. Group of young guys, probably gang members.
They start chasing us up bettedt A Canyon and then
into our neighborhood and we had to pass our house
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and we almost ended up imprisoned in a cul de sac.
And my wife is trying to go faster and faster
to get away from these guys. Now, if you have
a speed governor on your car, you can't do that.
And you know how many bad guys are out there now, right,
and how many people have guns in their car, So
we're supposed to be sitting ducks, so the likes of
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Marcus Aureiz can fire at us. And then she was
once driving into Sherman Oaks, and same thing happened. Somebody
decided to start chasing her, tried to cut her off,
like to try to pass her up, pass her up
on a Ventura Bullard and then block her car, and
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she had to dodge to the left, dodge to the right.
She tried to pull in a parking lot. The guy
pulled into the parking lot next door and cut her off,
and she had to speed away eventually back down then
to her boulevard. She's got one of these speed limited on.
I don't know what the well, we don't know what
the guy wanted to do. Nothing good. Eventually she sped
away and got away from them. So who the hell
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is Scott Weener to say that my wife and I
are supposed to just sit and take the bullet. He
is a dangerous nut. And it's one thing of San
Francisco wants morons like this governing their stupid, disgusting, filthy city.
But it's not gonna spread elsewhere. I mean, this is
just not gonna fly. And we're gonna we're going to
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fight this one. We're going to fight this one to
the death.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We come back Jay Bieber and he's been fighting these
these nutty driving laws for many years. Longtime guest on
our show, We'll talk to him.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
So get in on that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
If you want to get in on that, you gotta call,
you know, almost immediately, So don't just sit there.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
We love moistline callers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Hey, I meant to ask you, what do you think
of having a limitter on your.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Speed I if you didn't give that example of you
and your wife, I was going to say the exact
same thing. I don't want to be at a disadvantage.
Somebody's chasing me and I'm pushed in the gas and
I can't go no way, And not to mention that
it's only for new cars, so it's not it's just
not fair. You have some people, right they can't go
over ten miles above the speed limit, and then you
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have other people that can still go ninety to one
hundred miles.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
No, no, you're gonna be the dead duck on the freeway. No,
when all those people go ninety miles an hour riding
up on your rear end.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I'm just not gonna buy a new car if that happened.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, there's no point buying new cars. You can't buy
gas powered cars. You can't buy cars that could go
full speed. No, they're going to destroy the automobile industry
in California. I mean, I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna
buy ice, and I mean this, I'm gonna buy an
extra car. I'm gonna hold onto my current car until
it falls to pieces. And then when false to pieces,
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I'm gonna have this backup car that I'm gonna use.
Maybe you're gonna try to ride to the end on
these two cars.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
I think you need to buy two new cars. Yeah,
and keep them. Yeah, I know I'm gonna have to
like rent garage space somewhere. All right, Let's get Jay
Bieber on Ja Biber.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We've had on for years because he always with his
organizations fight these stupid laws that cities, counties in the
state of California are always pushing through.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Jay, how are you.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Well other than this stupid law? I've been pretty good,
all right, you are the executive was the most ridiculous
thing ever.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The executive director is the National Motorist Association.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Yes, I have been elevated.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was going to say, this is a real job.
Now this is a new title. Last time you were
doing something the local.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
In LA, Yeah it was Yeah, it was LA. And
now I'm responsible for this nonsense all over the country.
So just to give a little quick background, we have
the National Motors Association been around since the nineteen eighties
fighting these things and was responsible for eliminating the fifty
five mile an hour speed limit, the national fifty five
mile an hour speed limit, and I finally did that
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in the nineties, and then it has been working on
the stubber percent. I've been working with the organization on
and off, you know, just sort of tangentially. And then
there was a change of leadership and they asked me
to come on and hit the organization. So it's a
great organisation people should join.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right, Before we get started about the law, if
you could explain how this technology works. I assume the
way there's a there's a speed limit that pops up
at my dashboard. I guess that's all software that's imported
into the car's computer, and the same thing whenever I
use any kind of traffic system like the ways that right,
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they know what the speed limit is as well, and
it flashes when you're over the speed lin So tell
me this is going to be I guess mandatory, And
how does it make a car slow down if you're
going ten miles over the limit.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
So first of all, you should know that the federal
government has been pushing this as well, so this is
not just the state thing, but there's rulemaking at the
federal level, primarily focused on trucks, but obviously the intent
is to eventually roll it out to all vehicles. But
you know, crazy California has to jump right to all vehicles.
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But the way the technology works is it pretty much
as you described there. There's a GPS system in your government.
All cars right now are computers. So there's a computer
in your car. It can it knows what roadway you're
on and what the speed limit is. It's not perfect though,
because if you know, sometimes the ways and the and
the Google maps, they're not right, especially where a speed
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limits temporarily even changed, So so it's not perfect and
it would limit your vehicle. So it could not go
above a certain amount and especially amount of speed over
the speed limit. This is dangerous technology, This is this
is really dangerous. You've in the intro had mentioned a
lot of the reasons why, uh, this is this is
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dangerous because sometimes you do have to speed up. You
do have to speed up to avoid an accident, you
do have to speed up to avoid another crazy person
on the road. There's lots of reasons why you might
have to exceed the speed limit reasonably. But also you
you sort of tangent mentioned this, which is that speed
variation between different vehicles is extremely dangerous. That's actually much
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more dangerous than vehicles all traveling the same speed but
just a little bit higher than somebody would would prefer.
So what you would have if these vehicles were on
the roadway is, once the new vehicles, assuming anybody would
would be willing to buy one, they people driving those
vehicles would be limited and everybody else because it takes
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you know, twenty thirty maybe even forty years now for
the for the vehicle for me to change over, and
so you would see during that whole period of time
a huge variation in speed and the most dangerous thing
you can do. Quite frankly on the roadway is change lanes,
even if you're doing it safely. You know, changing the
lane is actually pretty dangerous. Compared to just driving along
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and going at a little higher speed, we would be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know, if you have a car that's going the spa,
you have to speed up to try to get around him.
And if you have a car going plus ten over
the limit and you run up against the speed governor,
well you can't get around him.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And let's say he's.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Weaving doing something dangerous. It's like, oh, I want to
get away from this guy. You know, there's smoke coming
out of the back of his car. You can't go
fifteen or twenty miles even for a brief period. And
that's dangerous too and frustrating, and that's going to lead
to more road.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
Round right, and think about rural roads. Okay, maybe that's
completely roll, but roads where you might have a two
lane road with a dotted line and you can then
go and pass that. The person in front of you
who's are a truck or something like that, you have
to speed up a lot to safely pass that vehicle
and then merge back into the travel lane on your
side of the roadway. So this is another reason why
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this is incredibly dangerous. But the other thing is that
speed limits, as you know because we've discussed this with
our old friend Laura Friedman and her ridiculous bills that
she you got passed to lower speed limits arbitrarily, is
that the speed limits are being arbitrarily lowered now, so
they don't even match the speed that the roadway is
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built for. And so right there, you has to be
a variation. But think about how much control over our lives.
All they have to do now is just change the
speed limit and you'll have to go twenty miles an
hour because that's what the limiting technology in the.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Vehicle, right So that's another trick they're going to have.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They're gonna keep artificially lowering the speed limit well what's necessary,
and they're gonna grind everybody to a halt exactly.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
And this is this is part of the things that
we're concerned about with this automated vehicle technology, which is
which is all they have to do is control the
car because it's very hard to control human beings all
that much, but you can control technology. And this is
all about control over your life. Make no mistake. They
claim this is about safety. It is not about safety.
I can give you some statistics on that, but this
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is all about impairing your ability to freely travel using
your prove your chosen mode of transportation. It is not
about safety. Anybody who falls for the safety argument is
a fool. I'm sorry to say that for some people
who believe this, but you are a fool if you
believe that this is really about somebody trying to make
you safer. It is about trying to control your life.
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They don't like people who live in suburbia, who drive cars,
who live a middle class lifestyle, and they want to
destroy that. That is the goal of a lot of
these people, mostly coming from the left, and they are
they hate you because you are successful middle class. There's
a whole bunch of unsuccessful people who can't afford a car,
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and so they have to dumb everything down to get
everybody down to the level of the people that they
claim they want to help. But of course this doesn't
help those people because those people are still immobile. In fact,
the study out of UCLA no Less said the best
way to get people out of poverty is to get
them a car. Yeah, all of the poor people.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I knew that when I was sixteen, because the summer
I turned seventeen, I took my test and I immediately
had a full time job that summer that I could
drive to. And that's the only thing was on my
mind is if I passed this test, I got a
job waiting for me, and if I don't pass the test,
I can't have the job. Of course, it bright good lord,
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I can't believe what we're living under here. I mean,
the poor Russians back in during the Cold War had
it better than this.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Well, it's so funny. I just talked about this in
an interview elsewhere, and I talked about the fact that
when I graduated college, I went to the Soviet Union,
still the Soviet Union, and I was amazed at the
fact that you do about the amount of restrictions on
travel that there were from parts of the country, one
part of the country to the other part of the country.
And I was like, wow, thank god I live in America. Well,
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guess what a couple of decades later, we are experiencing
this now. It's obviously not the same way in terms
of saying like we're going to restrict you from traveling here.
They're going to do it little by little by little
and make sure that you can't drive your car where
you want to go, when you want to go, how
you want to go. And they want everybody on public
transportation that is less efficient and makes you less prosperous,
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makes you have, you know, less ability to buy things,
and commerce that they hate commerce, They just hate.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What. The percentage of people who are communists in this
country is pretty tiny.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It seems they're all in government.
Speaker 10 (26:32):
Well that's what government attracts, especially in California. Yeah, I mean, look,
i'd you know, we we've talked about this before, and
I'll mention this on the air, probably for the first time.
I fled California. I'm in I'm in Arizona now. I
just couldn't take it anymore. It was just ridiculous. I
saw the handwriting on the law, and like everybody said, oh,
it's going to get so bad, there's going to be
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a backlash. Guess what. We're still waiting for the backlash
to come. So I'm still working on things in California,
but I'm working on things all over the entry and
it's it's just too overbearing. But the problem is that
if this passes in California. There's a similar bill in
New York State, by the way, And if this passes,
then of course vehicle manufacturers are going to put these
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on a vehicle. So not just going to create vehicles
for California, well everywhere, so they get you, except.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The electric vehicle is a debacle is a good template.
People could choose not to buy these things because they
don't want them, and I think that would happen here
as well. Listen, I have to go, Uh, just one
final thing that we have a lot of middle class
suburban people who need their cars to get to work
and want the freedom to evade a bad guy chasing
(27:44):
them on the freeway. What should they do? I know
Scott Wiener is the author of this bill. What should
they do?
Speaker 10 (27:50):
There's two things you can do. First of all, go
to our website motoris dot org.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Sign up.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
You can just sign up for our newsletter. But but
contest ends email. Say you're say you're in say you're
in California. Uh, we'll contact you directly. Become a member,
We'll contact you directly. It's really it's forty two dollars
a year. It's nothing for for for all the work
that we're doing. And then and if you also want
you need to call they make a fold. In fact,
(28:18):
you know what, we we did this with I forget
the guy's name with with the Devil's Bille. We should
set up a time where where welcome on the air,
and we'll set up a day where everybody makes a
phone call both to UH center we aren't shut down
his office, and also to the heads of the transportation committees,
(28:39):
because that's where this is going to get decided to
create something.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Okay, you talked to Ray. Let's set a date and
a time. We'll do that. I gotta run.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
You're listening to John Covelt on demand from kf I
A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And boy, if you're just poining in now, you got
to go to the podcast later and listen to our
last discussion with Jay Jay Bieber from the National Murder Association.
Scott Wiener that that human infection from San Francisco. He's
a state senator. He's got this incredibly intrusive, stupid communist
(29:11):
idea that would force cars to have a speed governor,
something that would limit your speed and prevent you from
driving more than ten miles an hour over the speed limit,
and Jay Bieber said, one day soon, we're going to
have him on and we'll pick a designated day and time,
(29:34):
and we're going to have to flood Scott Wiener's office
with phone calls and emails and messages and try to
stop this atrocity from happening. Imagine having a car and
this would happen in twenty the twenty twenty seven model year,
and those usually will come out on about six months
ahead of time, the model year. It'll be mid twenty
(29:56):
twenty six, two and a half years from now. No, no, no, no,
this is this is not gonna fly. This has got
to stop in tandem with that, quite a coincidence. But
we're gonna have Chris Legras on next and he has
been fighting here in Los Angeles. This mobility plan. If
(30:17):
you've been to Santa Monica, you know what I'm talking about.
It is a maze of bus lanes, bike lanes, crosswalks
that flash, all kinds of lights that are flickering on
and off. There's red lanes, there's green lanes, there's crisscross intersections.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's really confusing.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It has shrunk the usable traffic lanes down to the
point where there's constant backups everywhere and what's left of
the El Segundo Times.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
The editorial board.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is endorsing the city's Mobility Plan twenty thirty five. This
is left over, some leftover fecal matter from Eric Arcetti
to redesign the streets over the next twenty years to
turn them into a safe place for walking, biking and
transit but not cars. Yeah, the ghost of the late
(31:16):
Eric Garcetti is back. Hundreds of miles of bus only lanes,
protected bike lanes, sidewalk and streetscape enhancements.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know what that means.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You're gonna have more sidewalks and streetscapes edging into the roadway,
taking away lanes. They have done very little because we
successfully blocked a road diet in Plyadel Ray some years
ago and that sent Garcetti and Mike Bond into hiding
(31:49):
and they did not pursue much more of this. Well,
now it's come back time. Everything was in remission during
the pandemic, So we're gonna talk to Chris Lagras about this.
This is in the same category.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You can see. It's a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's to get you permanently out of your car, that
you cannot live in the city of Los Angeles and
drive a car. That's what they want. And uh, you know,
this is our city too, this is our state too.
You know, normal people who drive, who have families, who
own homes. God do they hate us. And you know what,
(32:25):
every one of these people fighting fighting for this nonsense.
They're all weirdos. You ever see Scott Wiener, hear him talk,
He's a weirdo. These are all weirdo people. I don't
know anybody like these people, and you don't either. And
then after that, since the El Segunda Times has put
themselves back in play and they wonder why nobody reads
(32:48):
their paper anymore, there's a story in an entertainment site
called the Wrap dot com Chaos and fury engulf the
Los Angeles Times after all those job cuts the other day.
And it's really funny because they got an editorial board
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here that is pushing this mobility plan so we can't
drive anymore in Los Angeles, and they pushed George Gascone. Yeah,
George Gascone is letting out all those criminals and we're
not able to drive our cars more than ten miles
over the limit. Huh right, good idea. Well, the time
supports that all the journalists that have gotten fired in
(33:33):
the last week. They're not angry with that nonsense which
is driven away readers. They're angry that a lot of
diversity journalists have been fired because they went with the
union contract first, the most recently hired journalists were the
most recently fired journalists, and of course that led to
(33:55):
a lot of diversity journalists getting the cut. So we'll
talk about that coming up. Deborah Mark is live in
the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear
the show live on KFI Am six forty from one
to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course,
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Now we're going to start right away with Corbyn Carson
from KFI News because we do have a verdict. You
may have heard in the shooting of that six year
old boy, Aiden Leos. This is from maya, twenty twenty one.
He was sitting in the backseat of his mother's car
and the murderer's girlfriend cut off Aiden's mom. Her name
(00:28):
was is Joanna Kloonan, and then Klunen responded by flipping
the finger to the girlfriend and the killer Marcus Ares
and Ariz responded by pulling out a gun, firing it
at Na Klunan's car and hitting Aiden. Bullet went right
through the back and entered his heart. We have a
(00:49):
verdict today. It was a murder trial. Let's get Corbyn
Carson on. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
John.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We talked about this several times since the trial started
last Thursday. Really quick trial. The defense did not call
any witnesses.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Marcus A.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Reves did not testify on his behalf and he had
guilt was never in question. The Reeves had confessed to
investigators in an over an hour long confession that was
he was asked repeatedly, you know why he did this,
and so forth, We've talked about all that, and so
it all boiled down to is this going to be
voluntary manslaughter or is this going to be second degree murder?
(01:22):
And a jury of ten men and two women deliberated
for less than two hours between yesterday and this morning
and came back quickly guilty on all counts that would
be the second degree murder shooting an occupied vehicle, and
then enhancements for both charges for the use of a firearm.
And so the man faces forty years at sentencing set
(01:43):
for next month. You know, Orange County DA Todd Spitzer
spoke outside. He said, this is a guy who killed
this little boy because they flipped him off.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Oh sorry, you know this always happens with you, John.
It must be you that's causing just.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Kidding here I sh out disruptive energy.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Here's Todd on what he about this boy?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Excuse me about Marcus Arives who killed this guy because
a woman flipped him off.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
His life take him six years old. She had to
bury her son, His sister had a bury her brother.
Their father had to bury a son. It's not the
normal order of events. We don't predecease our children. That's
why this has hit home, I think with everybody in
Orange County and across America, because you don't your children
(02:35):
don't die before you.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And then that's important.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
He said, it hit home with everybody in Orange County
because when this happened, there was this sixteen day man
hunt for who shot Aidan Laos, There was half a
million dollar reward, there were you know, warrants out, and
there were press conferences daily and this was you know,
it was national news. What happened to this six year
six year old boy. And so now we have an answer,
(02:58):
and now we have the end of this trial. We're
still waiting for one more trial for the co defendant.
That's Winnie Lee. She was driving the car. That's Ares's girlfriend.
She's doing court next month, and what are the going
to be the charges against her. She's only facing accessory
after the fact. So this has all you know, at
first they were they were going to try him together,
but it looks like, you know, this has really focused
(03:20):
in on a ree. So it remains to be seen.
I spoke with we spoke with the prosecutor again, who
was with the DA at the end, and he wouldn't
give us much because you know, there's still a trial
to be coming. But we'll we'll have to see what
happens with that next month. But I will tell you
you and I talked about this as far as voluntary
or involuntary and manslaughter, and we finally got we are
(03:42):
finally now able to hear from the prosecution side about
what they thought about.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Should this be voluntary manslaughter? And the defense.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Spitzer brought up brought up two arguments that he was
really up He says he was really upset about first.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
He attacked Joanna the mother and as if when she
came by the car and she gestured to women and
mister Airy's the defendant, that somehow it was Joanna Klunion
that put a set of events in place that would
allow somebody then to grab a gun from behind the
driver's seat cock it right, put around in the chamber,
(04:18):
rolled down a window and then aim and fire towards
a moving vehicle because of that event.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
And he says, the jury of twelve, you know, ten men,
two women in Orange County, they didn't agree with that
that somehow this could ever be the mother's fault.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Spitzer said, that's offensive. I mean, John, as.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Parents, we all know she will personally never forgive herself
for that gesture, and even prosecutors acknowledged that in court.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
But Spitzer said, this is all the shooter's fault.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He's still there here. Sorry, clip, I'm sorry. That was
my bust.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And I did have one because I said he had
just bat He had two arguments that he had a
prop with. Finally, the big one is this voluntary manslaughter
or is this murder?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
And that is a legal definition.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It came down to what did he did, what was
his intent, what was his state of mind? And Spitcher
pointed out there was something more, a message to all
road raged drivers out there that there was something more
at stake.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Here, and had the jury allowed that to be voluntary manslaughter,
if they had bought defense's argument, they would have sent
a message that it's okay to carry a gun in
your car and if somebody comes by and you get
into some kind of exchange and you fire your weapon,
you are only responsible for voluntary manslaughter. This jury said no.
(05:46):
Dan Feldman said no.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's the prosecutor.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Investigator Hill said no. Todd Spitzer said no. Johanna Klunan
said no, and twelve jurors when asked, is this your
vert it? They said yes, there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
All right, Well it's well said as always by Todd.
He's absolutely right. I mean, if the minimum standard to
justify murder is you flipped somebody off, yeah, well, there's
gonna be a lot of mayhem out there.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, any kind of cutting off people. I mean, it's
happening all the time, and that kind that came up
in court. People get cut off all the time. And
it was funny because the defense made an argument that
the standard is does what would the average person do
in similar situations?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What an average person do?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
And I was sitting there thinking, well, you know, there's
a lot of people in this courtroom, but only one
person is charged with murder, so the average would be
us sitting here, and it only happened to one guy.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I've never heard of a case like this where a
mother flips off a driver. The girlfriend who cut Joanna
Cloonan off, Yeah she did cut off, all right, So
she flips the bird and you know everybody's well, dever
does that regularly and the response is a a gunshot
to kill your child.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I mean, it was just a most absurd case.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And I said this the other day, this is the
worst defense I've ever seen, because there's no defense. Randall
lyeth Hune, the defense attorney, said it was a profound mistake,
a rash decision by a young man. No, because of
what Todd Spitzer said, because you got to reach over,
pull out the gun, get around in the chamber, cock
the pistol, lean out fire. That's a lot of decisions
(07:28):
that you make to get to that's.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
The intent, right, and then the malice. The malice is
this was a trained gun owner. They brought that up
in court. He knew what would happen. And just like
a dui when you get in the car drive and
someone kills everyone knows and you point a gun. I mean,
they said, this is the most this is the inherently
best example of something dangerous. You shoot at someone, something
(07:49):
deadly can happen.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, all right, very good, Garbon, Thanks thanks a lot
for coming on Carbon Carson from KFI News and for
once it's good news. Marcus Ares he's the guy who
shot six year old Aiden Leos Maya twenty twenty one,
after Arise's girlfriend Winnie Lee cut off the mother Joanna
kloonan Joanna flips Winnie and Marcus erise the bird and uh,
(08:16):
well you you know the restse pulls out the gun
and shoots.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
And just for the record, I've controlled myself.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Controlled yourself, all right, because I watch you on this
monitor here. Yeah, you've been flipping people off constantly, just
hear them.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
And we're not driving, and you don't have a gun.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
One all right. You know what we got coming up
at one thirty? Oh my god, We've got two really
really terrible laws that are coming possible laws after one thirty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I couldn't believe this morning. Every time there's a bad law,
the name attached to the bad law in California is
San Francisco State Senator Scott boy And if ever a
name described a person fully, yeah, Scott Wiener, listen to
the latest. He wants all cars in California to have
(09:14):
what they call a governor, a speed governor that would
mechanically prohibit you from driving more than ten miles an
hour over posted speed limits. Seriously, like you could never
drive more than ten miles past the speed limit. There
may be some goodie goods out there say, well, yes,
(09:34):
it should be that way. Well, hum, I'll give you
an example.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We come back. White should not be that way.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
You're listening to John Cobeltch on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
All right, one thirty, we are going to have Jabber on.
His organization fights all sorts of stupid traffic laws that
come from cities, counties, and the state government and is
often successful fighting them off. He certainly raises a lot
of awareness because most people don't know what's going on
(10:07):
and how they're constantly trying to interfere and make your
life more difficult. Well, this is a whopper from the
vegan brain of Scott Wiener. Scott Wiener is a state
senator from San Francisco, and.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I know how do they think of these things?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He would require that all cars are trucks, beginning with
the twenty twenty seven model year, any of them that
are built or sold in California. We'll have something called
a speed governor something to limit the speed of your
car to prevent you from driving more than ten miles
(10:52):
an hour over posted speed limits. I'm not making this up.
This is a real bill. They've decided that there's an
epidemic of traffic deaths in California and the Bay Area,
and that speed is involved in a third of the deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I read.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, this is something I gotta go find. I
read stuff and I file it away. There is a
story I read not too long ago, and it confirmed
what instinctively I thought was going on here. First of all,
the government lies a lot about traffic deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
They lie about the causes of the deaths because this
progressive obsession that we're dealing with wants to eliminate cars.
That's the ultimate goal. And they're willing to take decades,
step by step incrementally to limit and then eliminate your
motor vehicle. And by the way, the hardcore they don't
(11:57):
want to lecture cars either, don't don't want electric, they
don't want gas. They don't want you in a car.
They want you walking on a bike, or on a
bus or a train. Those are the four options that
they want to limit you to ultimately, so this step
would slow down your car. Now, I looked at some
(12:18):
research that was done, and they found out that the
increase in traffic deaths, let's say, in LA comes from
certain neighborhoods at certain times of day.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
The neighborhoods are where there are more homeless people.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The times of day was late afternoon, early evening when
the homeless and we're likely to be ambling about in
their drug stoopers, and there's obviously more traffic on the road.
So if you have more people stumbling around, and we've
all seen them in the street, right and we've all
seen their homeless camps spilling over into the street. And
I've had guys jump in front of me while I'm
(12:59):
dry on San mave Santi Boulevard when they allowed that
stupid homeless encampment in front of the VA for four years.
I'd make a turn off Wilsher, go up Sam Vicente,
and guys would just jump out from behind their tents
and you had to do a constant you were like
zigzagging around bodies and crazy people. Well, of course, a
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certain percentage of those people get run down, and that
is one of the big reasons that there's allegedly been
more fatalities. I don't have all the numbers here, and
I certainly don't trust Scott Weener, but letting people live
in the streets while they're drunk, drugged up, mentally ill, yeah,
some of them are going to get run down, so
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they're going to use that excuse now to limit our speed.
Now I can tell you this. I was one and
I've told both these stories before, but I'm not going
to tell them at any length. Here happened to my
wife and I once we got chased. Oh, it was
a road rage thing. My wife did something I think
(14:10):
cut a guy off as we're going up north on
betting A Canyon. It was late on a Friday or
Saturday night, and we started getting flashed. Somebody was flashing
headlights at us. Group of young guys, probably gang members.
They start chasing us up bettedt A Canyon and then
into our neighborhood and we had to pass our house
(14:32):
and we almost ended up imprisoned in a cul de sac.
And my wife is trying to go faster and faster
to get away from these guys. Now, if you have
a speed governor on your car, you can't do that.
And you know how many bad guys are out there now, right,
and how many people have guns in their car, So
we're supposed to be sitting ducks, so the likes of
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Marcus Aureiz can fire at us. And then she was
once driving into Sherman Oaks, and same thing happened. Somebody
decided to start chasing her, tried to cut her off,
like to try to pass her up, pass her up
on a Ventura Bullard and then block her car, and
(15:16):
she had to dodge to the left, dodge to the right.
She tried to pull in a parking lot. The guy
pulled into the parking lot next door and cut her off,
and she had to speed away eventually back down then
to her boulevard. She's got one of these speed limited on.
I don't know what the well, we don't know what
the guy wanted to do. Nothing good. Eventually she sped
away and got away from them. So who the hell
(15:37):
is Scott Weener to say that my wife and I
are supposed to just sit and take the bullet. He
is a dangerous nut. And it's one thing of San
Francisco wants morons like this governing their stupid, disgusting, filthy city.
But it's not gonna spread elsewhere. I mean, this is
just not gonna fly. And we're gonna we're going to
(16:00):
fight this one. We're going to fight this one to
the death.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We come back Jay Bieber and he's been fighting these
these nutty driving laws for many years. Longtime guest on
our show, We'll talk to him.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
So get in on that.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
If you want to get in on that, you gotta call,
you know, almost immediately, So don't just sit there.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
We love moistline callers.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Hey, I meant to ask you, what do you think
of having a limitter on your.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Speed I if you didn't give that example of you
and your wife, I was going to say the exact
same thing. I don't want to be at a disadvantage.
Somebody's chasing me and I'm pushed in the gas and
I can't go no way, And not to mention that
it's only for new cars, so it's not it's just
not fair. You have some people, right they can't go
over ten miles above the speed limit, and then you
(17:06):
have other people that can still go ninety to one
hundred miles.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
No, no, you're gonna be the dead duck on the freeway. No,
when all those people go ninety miles an hour riding
up on your rear end.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I'm just not gonna buy a new car if that happened.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
No, there's no point buying new cars. You can't buy
gas powered cars. You can't buy cars that could go
full speed. No, they're going to destroy the automobile industry
in California. I mean, I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna
buy ice, and I mean this, I'm gonna buy an
extra car. I'm gonna hold onto my current car until
it falls to pieces. And then when false to pieces,
(17:38):
I'm gonna have this backup car that I'm gonna use.
Maybe you're gonna try to ride to the end on
these two cars.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
I think you need to buy two new cars. Yeah,
and keep them. Yeah, I know I'm gonna have to
like rent garage space somewhere. All right, Let's get Jay
Bieber on Ja Biber.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We've had on for years because he always with his
organizations fight these stupid laws that cities, counties in the
state of California are always pushing through.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Jay, how are you.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Well other than this stupid law? I've been pretty good,
all right, you are the executive was the most ridiculous
thing ever.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The executive director is the National Motorist Association.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Yes, I have been elevated.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was going to say, this is a real job.
Now this is a new title. Last time you were
doing something the local.
Speaker 10 (18:26):
In LA, Yeah it was Yeah, it was LA. And
now I'm responsible for this nonsense all over the country.
So just to give a little quick background, we have
the National Motors Association been around since the nineteen eighties
fighting these things and was responsible for eliminating the fifty
five mile an hour speed limit, the national fifty five
mile an hour speed limit, and I finally did that
(18:48):
in the nineties, and then it has been working on
the stubber percent. I've been working with the organization on
and off, you know, just sort of tangentially. And then
there was a change of leadership and they asked me
to come on and hit the organization. So it's a
great organisation people should join.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right, Before we get started about the law, if
you could explain how this technology works. I assume the
way there's a there's a speed limit that pops up
at my dashboard. I guess that's all software that's imported
into the car's computer, and the same thing whenever I
use any kind of traffic system like the ways that right,
(19:21):
they know what the speed limit is as well, and
it flashes when you're over the speed lin So tell
me this is going to be I guess mandatory, And
how does it make a car slow down if you're
going ten miles over the limit.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
So first of all, you should know that the federal
government has been pushing this as well, so this is
not just the state thing, but there's rulemaking at the
federal level, primarily focused on trucks, but obviously the intent
is to eventually roll it out to all vehicles. But
you know, crazy California has to jump right to all vehicles.
(19:58):
But the way the technology works is it pretty much
as you described there. There's a GPS system in your government.
All cars right now are computers. So there's a computer
in your car. It can it knows what roadway you're
on and what the speed limit is. It's not perfect though,
because if you know, sometimes the ways and the and
the Google maps, they're not right, especially where a speed
(20:20):
limits temporarily even changed, So so it's not perfect and
it would limit your vehicle. So it could not go
above a certain amount and especially amount of speed over
the speed limit. This is dangerous technology, This is this
is really dangerous. You've in the intro had mentioned a
lot of the reasons why, uh, this is this is
(20:43):
dangerous because sometimes you do have to speed up. You
do have to speed up to avoid an accident, you
do have to speed up to avoid another crazy person
on the road. There's lots of reasons why you might
have to exceed the speed limit reasonably. But also you
you sort of tangent mentioned this, which is that speed
variation between different vehicles is extremely dangerous. That's actually much
(21:07):
more dangerous than vehicles all traveling the same speed but
just a little bit higher than somebody would would prefer.
So what you would have if these vehicles were on
the roadway is, once the new vehicles, assuming anybody would
would be willing to buy one, they people driving those
vehicles would be limited and everybody else because it takes
(21:29):
you know, twenty thirty maybe even forty years now for
the for the vehicle for me to change over, and
so you would see during that whole period of time
a huge variation in speed and the most dangerous thing
you can do. Quite frankly on the roadway is change lanes,
even if you're doing it safely. You know, changing the
lane is actually pretty dangerous. Compared to just driving along
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and going at a little higher speed, we would be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know, if you have a car that's going the spa,
you have to speed up to try to get around him.
And if you have a car going plus ten over
the limit and you run up against the speed governor,
well you can't get around him.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And let's say he's.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Weaving doing something dangerous. It's like, oh, I want to
get away from this guy. You know, there's smoke coming
out of the back of his car. You can't go
fifteen or twenty miles even for a brief period. And
that's dangerous too and frustrating, and that's going to lead
to more road.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
Round right, and think about rural roads. Okay, maybe that's
completely roll, but roads where you might have a two
lane road with a dotted line and you can then
go and pass that. The person in front of you
who's are a truck or something like that, you have
to speed up a lot to safely pass that vehicle
and then merge back into the travel lane on your
side of the roadway. So this is another reason why
(22:48):
this is incredibly dangerous. But the other thing is that
speed limits, as you know because we've discussed this with
our old friend Laura Friedman and her ridiculous bills that
she you got passed to lower speed limits arbitrarily, is
that the speed limits are being arbitrarily lowered now, so
they don't even match the speed that the roadway is
(23:09):
built for. And so right there, you has to be
a variation. But think about how much control over our lives.
All they have to do now is just change the
speed limit and you'll have to go twenty miles an
hour because that's what the limiting technology in the.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Vehicle, right So that's another trick they're going to have.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
They're gonna keep artificially lowering the speed limit well what's necessary,
and they're gonna grind everybody to a halt exactly.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
And this is this is part of the things that
we're concerned about with this automated vehicle technology, which is
which is all they have to do is control the
car because it's very hard to control human beings all
that much, but you can control technology. And this is
all about control over your life. Make no mistake. They
claim this is about safety. It is not about safety.
I can give you some statistics on that, but this
(23:56):
is all about impairing your ability to freely travel using
your prove your chosen mode of transportation. It is not
about safety. Anybody who falls for the safety argument is
a fool. I'm sorry to say that for some people
who believe this, but you are a fool if you
believe that this is really about somebody trying to make
you safer. It is about trying to control your life.
(24:17):
They don't like people who live in suburbia, who drive cars,
who live a middle class lifestyle, and they want to
destroy that. That is the goal of a lot of
these people, mostly coming from the left, and they are
they hate you because you are successful middle class. There's
a whole bunch of unsuccessful people who can't afford a car,
(24:38):
and so they have to dumb everything down to get
everybody down to the level of the people that they
claim they want to help. But of course this doesn't
help those people because those people are still immobile. In fact,
the study out of UCLA no Less said the best
way to get people out of poverty is to get
them a car. Yeah, all of the poor people.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I knew that when I was sixteen, because the summer
I turned seventeen, I took my test and I immediately
had a full time job that summer that I could
drive to. And that's the only thing was on my
mind is if I passed this test, I got a
job waiting for me, and if I don't pass the test,
I can't have the job. Of course, it bright good lord,
(25:21):
I can't believe what we're living under here. I mean,
the poor Russians back in during the Cold War had
it better than this.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Well, it's so funny. I just talked about this in
an interview elsewhere, and I talked about the fact that
when I graduated college, I went to the Soviet Union,
still the Soviet Union, and I was amazed at the
fact that you do about the amount of restrictions on
travel that there were from parts of the country, one
part of the country to the other part of the country.
And I was like, wow, thank god I live in America. Well,
(25:52):
guess what a couple of decades later, we are experiencing
this now. It's obviously not the same way in terms
of saying like we're going to restrict you from traveling here.
They're going to do it little by little by little
and make sure that you can't drive your car where
you want to go, when you want to go, how
you want to go. And they want everybody on public
transportation that is less efficient and makes you less prosperous,
(26:16):
makes you have, you know, less ability to buy things,
and commerce that they hate commerce, They just hate.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What. The percentage of people who are communists in this
country is pretty tiny.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It seems they're all in government.
Speaker 10 (26:32):
Well that's what government attracts, especially in California. Yeah, I mean, look,
i'd you know, we we've talked about this before, and
I'll mention this on the air, probably for the first time.
I fled California. I'm in I'm in Arizona now. I
just couldn't take it anymore. It was just ridiculous. I
saw the handwriting on the law, and like everybody said, oh,
it's going to get so bad, there's going to be
(26:52):
a backlash. Guess what. We're still waiting for the backlash
to come. So I'm still working on things in California,
but I'm working on things all over the entry and
it's it's just too overbearing. But the problem is that
if this passes in California. There's a similar bill in
New York State, by the way, And if this passes,
then of course vehicle manufacturers are going to put these
(27:15):
on a vehicle. So not just going to create vehicles
for California, well everywhere, so they get you, except.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The electric vehicle is a debacle is a good template.
People could choose not to buy these things because they
don't want them, and I think that would happen here
as well. Listen, I have to go, Uh, just one
final thing that we have a lot of middle class
suburban people who need their cars to get to work
and want the freedom to evade a bad guy chasing
(27:44):
them on the freeway. What should they do? I know
Scott Wiener is the author of this bill. What should
they do?
Speaker 10 (27:50):
There's two things you can do. First of all, go
to our website motoris dot org.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Sign up.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
You can just sign up for our newsletter. But but
contest ends email. Say you're say you're in say you're
in California. Uh, we'll contact you directly. Become a member,
We'll contact you directly. It's really it's forty two dollars
a year. It's nothing for for for all the work
that we're doing. And then and if you also want
you need to call they make a fold. In fact,
(28:18):
you know what, we we did this with I forget
the guy's name with with the Devil's Bille. We should
set up a time where where welcome on the air,
and we'll set up a day where everybody makes a
phone call both to UH center we aren't shut down
his office, and also to the heads of the transportation committees,
(28:39):
because that's where this is going to get decided to
create something.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Okay, you talked to Ray. Let's set a date and
a time. We'll do that. I gotta run.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
You're listening to John Covelt on demand from kf I
A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And boy, if you're just poining in now, you got
to go to the podcast later and listen to our
last discussion with Jay Jay Bieber from the National Murder Association.
Scott Wiener that that human infection from San Francisco. He's
a state senator. He's got this incredibly intrusive, stupid communist
(29:11):
idea that would force cars to have a speed governor,
something that would limit your speed and prevent you from
driving more than ten miles an hour over the speed limit,
and Jay Bieber said, one day soon, we're going to
have him on and we'll pick a designated day and time,
(29:34):
and we're going to have to flood Scott Wiener's office
with phone calls and emails and messages and try to
stop this atrocity from happening. Imagine having a car and
this would happen in twenty the twenty twenty seven model year,
and those usually will come out on about six months
ahead of time, the model year. It'll be mid twenty
(29:56):
twenty six, two and a half years from now. No, no, no, no,
this is this is not gonna fly. This has got
to stop in tandem with that, quite a coincidence. But
we're gonna have Chris Legras on next and he has
been fighting here in Los Angeles. This mobility plan. If
(30:17):
you've been to Santa Monica, you know what I'm talking about.
It is a maze of bus lanes, bike lanes, crosswalks
that flash, all kinds of lights that are flickering on
and off. There's red lanes, there's green lanes, there's crisscross intersections.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's really confusing.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It has shrunk the usable traffic lanes down to the
point where there's constant backups everywhere and what's left of
the El Segundo Times.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
The editorial board.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is endorsing the city's Mobility Plan twenty thirty five. This
is left over, some leftover fecal matter from Eric Arcetti
to redesign the streets over the next twenty years to
turn them into a safe place for walking, biking and
transit but not cars. Yeah, the ghost of the late
(31:16):
Eric Garcetti is back. Hundreds of miles of bus only lanes,
protected bike lanes, sidewalk and streetscape enhancements.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You know what that means.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You're gonna have more sidewalks and streetscapes edging into the roadway,
taking away lanes. They have done very little because we
successfully blocked a road diet in Plyadel Ray some years
ago and that sent Garcetti and Mike Bond into hiding
(31:49):
and they did not pursue much more of this. Well,
now it's come back time. Everything was in remission during
the pandemic, So we're gonna talk to Chris Lagras about this.
This is in the same category.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You can see. It's a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's to get you permanently out of your car, that
you cannot live in the city of Los Angeles and
drive a car. That's what they want. And uh, you know,
this is our city too, this is our state too.
You know, normal people who drive, who have families, who
own homes. God do they hate us. And you know what,
(32:25):
every one of these people fighting fighting for this nonsense.
They're all weirdos. You ever see Scott Wiener, hear him talk,
He's a weirdo. These are all weirdo people. I don't
know anybody like these people, and you don't either. And
then after that, since the El Segunda Times has put
themselves back in play and they wonder why nobody reads
(32:48):
their paper anymore, there's a story in an entertainment site
called the Wrap dot com Chaos and fury engulf the
Los Angeles Times after all those job cuts the other day.
And it's really funny because they got an editorial board
(33:09):
here that is pushing this mobility plan so we can't
drive anymore in Los Angeles, and they pushed George Gascone. Yeah,
George Gascone is letting out all those criminals and we're
not able to drive our cars more than ten miles
over the limit. Huh right, good idea. Well, the time
supports that all the journalists that have gotten fired in
(33:33):
the last week. They're not angry with that nonsense which
is driven away readers. They're angry that a lot of
diversity journalists have been fired because they went with the
union contract first, the most recently hired journalists were the
most recently fired journalists, and of course that led to
(33:55):
a lot of diversity journalists getting the cut. So we'll
talk about that coming up. Deborah Mark is live in
the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
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