January 23, 2024 • 36 mins
Daniel Guss comes on the show to talk about the layoffs at the LA Times today. A pursuit suspect has essentially vanished after no showing his court date. Morgan Stewart comes on the show to talk about a settlement that LAUSD has agreed to pay out to victims of child sex abuse from a teacher. An update on the Aiden Leos trial.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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coming off the debate with those three whack jobs at
the Democrats that's running for the Democrats. Tell me he
doesn't sound like a normal person. Don't we need some
normal people running for office again instead of these screaming
lunatics with their weirdo ideologies.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't know, give them a Listen to me. He sounds.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Like we need more of these people. The La Times
what a disaster. We've been telling you about it for
several days now, about two weeks or so ago. The
executive editor, Kevin Rita resigned. Yesterday, the managing editor, Sarah A.
Scene resigned. Another top editor, Shanny Hilton, resigned. The Sunshiong
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family is sick of blowing money. They've spent a billion
dollars and got nothing for it. Today they laid off
one hundred and fifteen of their writers and editors.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Which is a huge chunk of the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The newsroom twenty five years ago was twelve hundred employees,
writers and editors. Most recently it was down to five hundred,
and now it's down to less than four hundred. We're
going to talk with Daniel Gus from The Gus Report,
independent journalist who's been on our show many times because
he always seems to know what's going on at the
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inside of the La Times.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Daniel, how are.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You hey, John, Thanks for having me back, and congratulations
on going solo with your show.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh, thank you very much. It's good to have you on.
I mean, as soon as Hyong hitting the end of
the road here, he just is sick. I mean, his
wife was quoted in one story that she was tired
of writing a million dollar check every week to prop
up the paper.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, you know, here's the thing, John, that I think
is really lost on the people at the La Times
before the layoffs. Today, this is an industry. The print
media industry is dead. It is dead. If you've seen
no in my corner store, my corner liquor store doesn't
even sell the La Times anymore, and it's it's cover
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prices like four dollars, and it's anarexic for the ninety
year old people who actually subscribe to it. The print.
The news media industry is consolidating. But the people at
the Times failed to realize that they had their Willy
Wonka moment. Remember in the movie Willy Wonka. If you
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got the candy bar with the golden foil wrapping around it,
you got to go to Willie Waka's factory. Patrick soun Sean,
who already owned a big portion of the La Times,
bought the rest of it about six and a half
years ago when the industry was dying. I think he
paid ten times too much. I think it was probably
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worth about forty or fifty million dollars at the time.
And so the industry was shrinking and going anyway because
of the iPhone, because of the Internet, because of the
immediacy of news, such that The Times, in any newspaper
is obsolete by the time it hits your doorstep. And
they had this guy worth about five to eight billion
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dollars with the most noble intentions trying to save it,
trying to reinvigorate the La Times, and the people there
doubled down on crazy, just like on Sunday when they
doubled down on crazy with the George guests gun endorsement,
Just like they doubled down on crazy by having a
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walkout for the first time in one hundred and forty
two years. They and they did a hey, let's go guys,
a solidarity of walkout. Son Seng was their last best
chance to get this thing right. It's just the Washington Post,
in the New York Times, now in the USA Today,
and cable news and social media. So yeah, I think
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he's done with it in terms of the nonsense that's
going on. By the way, I don't think it's five hundred.
I've read reports that the newsroom at the LA Times
was down to four hundred, and this would represent about
twenty seven percent. So they need to get their act together.
By the way, let me do the La Times job
for them, because they're you know, just like they endorsed
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George Gascon for reelection over the weekend, I can tell
you four years in advance, they're going to reindorse Karen
Bass for a second term. They're going to endorsed Nithi
Rahman for a second term. In a couple of months,
and then Eunice is Hernandez Hugo Soda Martinez, and Kenneth
Mahea unless Soon Sean gets his daughter, who's been using
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the La Times as a play thing ever since he
bought it for her own personal agenda.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I have not seen a major newspaper turns so far left,
so ultra progressive, so ultra woke, day after day, and
that attitude infiltrated many of their news stories, all their editorials,
all the calmness, all the endorsements. It's it's it's overwhelming,
and it's the only game in town to get print
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news about the state and the county and the city.
And they went so far off the cliff that it's
unreadable a lot of days.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And what was the point of that. Most people aren't
that way.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know what they thought? They thought the good times
are going to continue because we got this. I were
billions of dollars and we formed in La Times Guild
and we're just going to keep marching on forward. And
my evidence of the degree of delusion is that they
have they have a strike on Friday, and Patrick soon Shung,
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the well intentioned owner, referred to that strike as not helping. Yeah,
you know what, if this guy's losing about a million
dollars a week, you guys better snap to it. He
was telling he was telegraphing this with the layoffs last summer.
But you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, if somebody tells if somebody tells you that you're
going to be laid off, going on strike is not
going to save your job.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, how how can you know? What?
I want to know, John, I want to know how
many of the people who were on strike on Friday
and Gloria Molina Grand Park in downtown And by the way,
why did they strike at Grand Park rather than at
their headquarters and smell Segundo. And by the way, Grand
Park is across the streets from where they used to work.
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And I want to know. I really want to know,
don't you. I want to know how many of the
La Times people who struck were on strike last Friday
would have been saved today but ended up getting laid off,
ended up potentially missing a buyout offer. I want to
know who lost their job because of the strike three
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days before a layoff.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, that's a good question, because if I was running
a business that was losing a ton of money. And
I told people, hey, we got layoffs here unless we
can come to some kind of new negotiation about the costs.
And then everybody says, screw you, we're going on strike.
It's like avout with you. I don't have to employ
any of you. You don't have to get anybody today exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And you know what, some of these are people who
were supposed to be there to bring transparency to the
guy who's in the truck driving the beer to the store,
to the parents who's picking up the kids from school
or little league, and to tell us the truth without
their agenda.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
All right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's like, why design your entire paper behind a radical
progressive message completely forgetting the normal people that you just
described here. You know, the guy riding the truck trying
to make a living, the mom trying to take the kids,
you know, the soccer practice. The normal people who get
together in everybody's neighborhood every night.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You see them. We all live with them, We know them.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That paper was not designed for them, and that's where
the money is, that's where the population is. Instead, it
was this ultra progressive hothouse.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Blod and you know what, they kept They kept pushing it.
A few years ago, a peer of yours from a
different outlet named Larry Elder was running for governor, and
a columnist at The Times referred to this accomplished Larry Elder,
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this accomplished attorney, former judge, a guy who because he
happens to have conservative values, they refer to him as
the black face of white supremacy. You know what, I
want to have a beer with Larry Elder tonight, Larry,
if you're out there, I want to have a beer
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with you. I want to know how good today feels,
even though the person who wrote that about him apparently
still has her job. But it went on and on
and on, and finally a rich guy said, you know what,
this is a bit much, And to Patrick Sunshong's credit
or vision, he says, no, we have a plan. We
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have a plan. We're moving forward. Well, you know what,
I look forward to seeing what that plan is.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know you're giving Patrick credit here, but he's in
charge of the paper. He let this thing spin out
of control with all this extreme progressivism.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
This is what they write about. What they care about the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
La Times is not what most normal people think not
even most normal liberal Democrats on the West Side are
into the stuff that they preach. So I don't know
why he didn't rain this in a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know what, You've spoken about it fairly extensively. I'm
not so sure that he's in charge of it. I
think he's in charge of it from a you know,
the twenty thousand foot level, but from certain reports inside
he was kind of present and then aloof and then disappeared.
And the wife wanted to build a studio to promote booking,
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and you know, the one hundred best restaurants, the one
hundred restaurants that closed. But it appears that and I
wrote about this a few months ago where I said
that Sun Shongs are far left. Daughter Nika Sun Schong
was interfering with both the editorial board and the reporting
to the point where they couldn't refer to looting. Yes
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as looting.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, the word looting was banned. I gotta go, Daniel,
thanks for coming on, Thanks for coming on all right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Whenever you needed me, sir, I'll always.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Be here, all right, Journalist Daniel Gus you're listening to
John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We got something coming up at two thirty, don't we
don't we? Huh help me out here?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, we are gonna have attorney Morgan Stewart. Oh this story.
I saw this this morning. This is so disgusting. I
thought this story had long been settled. Do you remember,
and this is going back more than ten years ago,
there was a pedophile teacher in the Los Angeles school
district named Mark Burnt, and he was feeding his students
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cookies laced with his bodily fluids.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, that bodily fluid.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I remember that story so well.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Once you hear it, you can never forget it. And
then he would take pictures of them, I guess, eating
the cookies. He would put tape over their eyes and mouths.
I can't see a teacher doing this to me when
I was a little kid.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can't imagine, even if I was eight years old,
standing there and the teacher's putting tape on my mouth
and eyes and giving me some funky taste in cookies.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Well, what would you have done?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Kicked them in the nuts?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Really?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I think I would have.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think I think some kids are You know, you
look at teachers as as kind of godlike figures you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Want to see. That's the thing I never did.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I had contempt for all my teachers that I understand that.
And I can't even get into the nuns anyway, we're
gonna have the story is back. There was another two
victims that got a settlement from LAUSD. Attorney Morgan Stewart
is going to be on with us. He represented the victims. Okay,
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this not going to believe we got we got a
story here from Fox eleven. It's cut thirteenth. Gina Silva
did the report. I hadn't heard of this thing. There
is a guy who was in a car chase in November.
La County Sheriff's deputies were chasing him. He collides with
a second man in a white truck and the guy
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ended up dying.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Right the second guy ended up dying. The perpetrator was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Released on his own recognaissance and now he hasn't showed
up for he hasn't shown up for his court date.
This is all true after he killed the guy. Play
the clip from Gina Silver Fox eleven.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
This is the violent end to a high speed pursuit.
The guy on the ground is twenty year old Victor Duiremasies.
He led La County Sheriff's deputies on a chase on
November twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. This is video of
that horrific crash. At the intersection of Arteesia and Long
Beach Boulevardsdarte Masias slams into an innocent driver, Pedro Barrera,
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the impact so severe it severs federal's left arm. Three
days later, a Compton judge Releasesdarte Macias without bail on
his own recognissance. He was ordered to be in court
this Monday, but Darte Massias did.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Not show up.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
This suspect and defendant did not show up to court
is not at all surprising. He's facing serious charges. He
maded the police, and I'm quite surprised that judge let
him out without having to post bail. I mean to me,
it's just it's hard to explain and I don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Criminal defense attorney Dimitri Goren isn't the only one struggling
to understand the decisions made in this case.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Pursuing someone at a high speed right and then obviously
to let him go days later. It's just heartbreaking because
we lost a family member.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
When we first spoke with Pedro's family. They shared the
heartbreaking news. Six weeks after the crash, Fthro died from
multiple complications.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
He's so traumatic, it is, there's no words. No one
could understand the pain.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I'm surprised the district attorney has not yet brought murder charges.
If I'm the prosecutor handling this case, I would have
my most experienced detectives looking for him to bring him
to justice and bring him to court.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
The La County Sheriff's Department got back to us tonight
explaining the suspect was originally charged with felony evading a
peace officer with great bodily injury. They did not have
any details as to why a Compton court released Duartemasias
on his own recognissance. We also contacted the La County
DA's office, but they did not get back to us
in time for this story.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So this is another Gascon special, trying to you know,
piece the details together here. So so it's a difficult
name to pronounce for me. Victor Dutemisius. He collides with
Pedro Barrera. Police are chasing Dorta Messius. It severs Herrera's
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left arm. Six weeks later he dies from complications. Now,
at the time he was put in jail, Barrera hadn't
died yet. But that charge that genas silver list had
sounded pretty serious. Evading police with serious bodily injury. Uh,
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no bail, And now Ferrera died and there's no murder charges.
This is Gascone's world here. Can you believe this?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The guy died.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And doorta Messius released on bail, released without bail on
his own recognisance? What does that mean exactly? You have
to you have to recognize yourself. Yes, I recognize myself.
Or do they give the guy a marrior? Do you
recognize yourself?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I recognize yourself. Well, you're released on your own RECOGNI
that doesn't make any sense that term. He's twenty years old,
he's probably not even in the country anymore. How are
there not murder charges? How is there not bail? This
must have been a gasc in order. My god, every
day there's some tragedy, some atrocity that you could connect
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to George Gascon every day. This is criminal justice reform.
Not keeping a guy in jail who murdered a man
who's who's led police on a chase. What this is insanity.
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This is what I keep saying. This is not normal
politics or normal positions on issues.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
This is insanity. This is anarchy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
This is the destruction of our way of life. I
don't know what it takes to wake people up. You've
got to vote differently. And this one we didn't even
know about for you know, for about a month. All right,
when we come back, more insanity, the case of Mark
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Burnt and his seaman laced cookies that he was feeding
kids over ten years ago. The story is back because
there's two more victims who've won three and a half
million dollars from LAUSD. That's where your tax Bundy's going.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Forty after three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We have another candidate for Los Angeles District Attorney to
talk with. Return visitor to our show, Deborah Archiletta. Judge
Deborah Archiletta, and she was in the debate last week,
and we will discuss how her campaign is going to
unseat the despicable, deplorable George Gascone.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't think i'd see this story again. Well, it
was over ten years ago when in a Los Angeles
Unified School District teacher named Mark Brent pleaded no context
to twenty three charges lude conduct upon a child. He
got twenty five years in prison. This was the case,
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you may remember if you were around then, where he
was feeding his children in class cookies laced with his
own seamen and taking pictures of them, yeah, his own
bodily fluids. He would also tape over their eyes and
their mouths. Turns out that parents and students and teachers
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had been complaining about his sexual misconduct all the way
back to the early nineteen eighties. So weird, creepy, gross
things had been going on thirty years. The LA Unified
School District paid one hundred and forty one million dollars
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to eighty one victims. They also played paid thirty million
dollars to the families of sixty five students at Miramonte
Miremante Elementary School. It turns out there is there's more
multimillion dollar settlements. Here, two more victims we're going to
talk with. We're going to talk with Morgan Stewart, one
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of the attorneys at Manly, Stuart and Finalde Morgan.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Are you there, yep, I'm here. Thanks for having me on, guys,
this is nuts.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who are these new two victims?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Because I thought this had all been settled, you know,
ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, you abuse students for thirty years, you see, you
have a lot of victims that come forward, and the
two latest victims that we settled, Uh, we're fearful coming forward.
And you know, part of part of his ability to
operate were lower income students, students who he instilled fear in. Uh,
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and that sticks with you for for quite a while.
So you know, there are still students coming forward from
that were abused by him, even to this day. They
are they are still coming forward and and indicating they
were abused, and you know, they're they're they're scared, They're
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they were scared, and they're dealing with it on a
daily basis. So they're they're coming forward slowly.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Is there a deadline legally for them to file their claims?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I mean there's the the statutal limitations. Obviously it
was extended uh a few years ago, so most of
them have until they're forty to file.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 10 (21:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, I thought it was okay.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
So yeah, so they changed it about three or four
years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So were these victims of the cookies or were there
other acts that they suffered from Mark Brent.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know, he Burnt had a weird pedophilia that was
probably a mixture of some sado masochism as well as
just straight sexual abuse. So his victims like these, uh
involved not only the eating of the semen laced cookies,
but as well as the blindfolding, taking pictures, and the
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putting hissing bugs on their their shoulders and on their faces,
just like he did to hundreds of other victims.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And he did this stuff in the classroom.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
He did it in the classroom. It wasn't it wasn't
really a closed secret.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
I mean you you alluded to this.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I mean we're going back to the early nineteen eighties
where he was dropping his pants in front of students,
and were he tight clothes that you would expose as generals?
And the administration knew this, they brushed it off, or
they excused it, and they allowed it to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What was the upside for the administration to excuse it?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
This is what I've never gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I understand the kids not wanting to talk about it,
right because it's very traumatizing, humiliating, But he's doing this
weird stuff in public.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I've never heard of this stuff in my life.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I mean, on its face, this is a sicko, right,
and parents must have known about it obviously and they complained.
So what to me if I'm an administrator and I'm
getting all these stories, I don't want to be connected
to this. I want out of this.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You you would, And because we're normal, I mean, the
short answer is, because we operate in a rational world.
But you look at I mean, look at Mark Burns.
You look at George Penman de la Torre, you are
George Peenmenthal. You look at Martin Springer. All these sexual
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abusers that were operating under and with the explicit and
implicit permission of lausd all in the same general area,
all in the same general time, with hundreds and hundreds
of victims, and the school administration at that time did
nothing about it. They excused it, they allowed it. They
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were friendly with these individuals. They didn't want to turn
in their fellow colleagues.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I know that there's a certain amount of sickos in
human society. There always will be, right the Mark Burns,
I just don't understand the administrative layer at a school
to be embracing these weirdos. And it had to have
been a number of administrators. If this went on from
the nineteen eighties to the early twenty tens, that's thirty
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years worth of administry.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yes, and you would again, in a rational society, you
would say that's not okay. But this is la USD.
This is the same institution which collected all of their
sexual abuse reporting and destroyed them during this process of
what's going on. If you operate in a world where
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LAUSD is willing to destroy sexual abuse records, what, as
an administrator says to you, Well, that's you know, they're
going to destroy them.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Why do I have to do anything to report these people?
That's that's the that's the.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
World we're operating in in the you know, two thousand
to two thousand and fifteen, sixteen time period of LAUSD.
They don't care, they're just they're they're they're covering. Frankly,
they're covering it up. And they knew they were covering
it up by destroying these records.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know, we've had you on and your partner, John
Manle on so many times, and you've represented so many
sexual abuse victims. You know, from from the universities and
the schools, the churches. I mean, you know, it's an
endless list of cases that we're all familiar with, and
it's the same story every time. And I'm just fascinated,
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Like this entire generation of administrators at all levels of
education knew about. You know, we need total up all
the cases, literally thousands of kids getting sexually abused in
some sick, demented way, and it's the same story. Nobody
wanted to do anything. They covered it up, they destroyed
the paperwork. What I mean, what do you think as
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these as these cases keep coming into your office, what
do you think of humanity?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, I think one and I think we talked about
this before. The legislature needs to fix the system.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
If if an.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Administrator knows they're going to get at most a flap
on the hand misdemeanor six months, you know, penalty for
failing to report, and and the likelihood is one percent
you are going to get prosecuted under that for.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
Failing to report. What's there? You know, what, what's their.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Incentive other than I'm a good human, uh, you know,
and I do the ethical thing, which should be enough.
But it isn't that the legislature needs to hammer and
put put failing penalties on that this and you start,
you start putting administrators in prison for for failure to report,
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the system will change. But so far the unions have
stopped and blocked that from occurring. Somebody needs to say
what is going on with with somebody blocking holding people
who fail to report accountable. And you know, from the
humanity standpoint, this is I mean, we have an ongoing
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Miramante case humanity standpoint.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
L a U.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
S D is current arguing in that case. It's an
ongoing argument that they shouldn't be liable because it's a
gift of public funds to compensate a survivor for being
sexually abused. And there's a constitutional provision that prevents a
gift of public funds.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
To a survivor.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
That their base, their argument is a survivor that they
fail to protect shouldn't get public funds for being abused
by a perpetrator.
Speaker 10 (28:34):
That's that you you know, you want to get down
to humanity.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
That's that's what uh, the superintendents and the assistant superintendents
are saying. This is okay, We're going to say you
can't compensate a survivor because we don't want to give
them a gift. That's that's the argument they're currently making.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
L A U.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
S D is actually making this in a public forum,
saying we can't give survivors gifts.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't know how for all these decades you guys
have been able to deal with all these cases, because
it's just infuriating and disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Really well, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
I appreciate you, guys, I really do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Morgan Stewart the attorney at Manly Stuart and Finaldi and
it's two more victims of the infamous Mark Burnt, who
is in prison for a long time. It was three
and a half million dollars for these two extra lawsuits
and he was the seaman laced cookie teacher.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty'ron.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
From one till four and after four o'clock John Cobelt's
show on demand, and listen particularly to the Steve Garvey
interview that we did in the first hour one thirty
to two. It would be our number one if you
can scroll thirty minutes in. If you're short on time,
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seven eight eight six. We have been following the story
in Orange County of that little six year old boy
who got shot while mom was driving him to school
back in twenty twenty one. You remember this story. We
talked about it extensively. The other day the trial started
and it continued yesterday and the mother, Joanna Kloonan, was
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cut off by a driver, Marcus Eures, actually Marcus's girlfriend
who was driving, but Joanna kloon and the mom of
the little boy, flipped the girlfriend off, and she was
testifying that Marcus Eres, as that car passed her, turned
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and smiled at.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Her, and he was the one who.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Shortly thereafter fired a gun shot into Klunan's car and
it killed her son Aiden. And Joanna took the stand
on Monday, pretty gripping testimony. She went into the courtroom
with a support dog, and she had driven Aiden from
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their home in Coasta Mesa to Calvary Chapel Preschool in
Yorba Linda and the driver of a Volkswagen sportswagon began
to come up quickly behind her. It scared me. Joanna said.
They swerved out of the carpool lane and then in
front of my car abruptly, and Kloonan said that after
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cutting her off, the driver, who was the girlfriend, winn
A Lee, flashed a peace sign, and Joanna said, I
didn't want to be near these people. I left the
carpool lane. We were next to each other. I made
a gesture that was the middle finger, and I started
to merge away from them. She acknowledged the jester was
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the middle finger, and Joanna said she briefly made eye
contact with the man that is Marcus Arives, the boyfriend.
He looked at me and smiled. I tried to get
away as much as I could, and then shortly thereafter
she heard a bang. She thought somebody had thrown a
rock at the car, and it was the bullet entering
the car and entering her son. And you see this guy,
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there's photos of him. He's some creepo with a ponytail.
I am anti men wearing ponytails.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I know you are.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm immediately suspicious bothers me. I can't explain why exactly.
And you know he died shortly thereafter. It was terrible.
And if you remember this case, this case in senses
me because the defense attorney, in his opening argument was
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making this ridiculous, wild nonsense claim that the man here
who pulled the trigger is not Marcus. Like it is Marcus,
but it's not Marcus. That Marcus split into two. There's
the Marcus here today, and then there's the Marcus who
pulled the trigger. And apparently Marcus number two didn't realize
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what Marcus number one was doing. I'm paraphrasing, but that
was the gist of his defense, not denying that he
pulled the trigger and killed the boy, just saying that
the other Marcus inside Marcus's body wouldn't approve of what
the first Marcus did. Now, this public defender, Randall Bethune,
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when it was his turn to ask the mom, Joanna Kloonan,
he only asked one question, whether she had previously told
anyone about what she described happening when she caught eyes
with Marcus Arives. Did you tell police you recalled the
passenger in the car smiling. I don't recall, the mother answered,
so is that the defense?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What does that matter? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Did you tell the police that you recalled the passenger.
They're trying to prove, well, maybe it wasn't Marcus Ebriz
who fired the gun. They've already they can prove he
fired the gun. I mean the bullet ripped through the
trunk of the car and then traveled into Aiden's back,
through his liver and lung, pierced his heart, and so
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it wasn't long before he died.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I am because he smiled? Does that make him more
of a a criminal?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
There?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, there's less than a criminal.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
The defense attorney's tried to play this confusion game with witnesses,
hoping they could track them into saying something contradictory. But
that's the only question that he's got. And remember that
Marcus Rives was hiding for two weeks.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Well, he didn't listen to the news, right, he didn't
listen to KFI to know that police were looking for him.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That was the defense attorney's argument, because obviously that looks
like consciousness of guilt, and that's a legal term whether
someone's behavior in the ensuing days and weeks would lead
a reasonable person to believe that, oh, he knew he
did it, he knew he was guilty because he went inhead,
he tried changing jobs, and the excuse for the defense
attorney rand up with you and is well, he doesn't
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listen to KFI. Could you imagine if you had killed
somebody and it made the news, and this was really
big news because it was a six year old boy.
Can you imagine going two weeks and try to convince people. No,
I wasn't aware. I didn't watch the news, I didn't
listen to KFI.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
People get at I mean, worst defense attorney I've ever
heard this jury. I hope we have non vegetables on
the jury. I don't hope we don't have a jury
of avocados.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
I think that even people who eat avocados can be fare.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
People with the IQ of avocados. Deborah Mark live in
the KF. Oh wait before I do that. Deborah Archiletta,
the judge running for Gascon's DA job.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
She's up next. Should listen to her.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
After Deborah's news, I'll i DeBras again, live in the
KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to
the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the
show live on KFI AM six forty from one to
four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course anytime
on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on the radio from one until four. After four o'clock,
go to John Cobelt's show on demand and you could
listen to whatever you missed on the podcast. And if
you're just joining us, I would listen to that last
half hour we just did with Steve Garvey talking about
(00:23):
coming off the debate with those three whack jobs at
the Democrats that's running for the Democrats. Tell me he
doesn't sound like a normal person. Don't we need some
normal people running for office again instead of these screaming
lunatics with their weirdo ideologies.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't know, give them a Listen to me. He sounds.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Like we need more of these people. The La Times
what a disaster. We've been telling you about it for
several days now, about two weeks or so ago. The
executive editor, Kevin Rita resigned. Yesterday, the managing editor, Sarah A.
Scene resigned. Another top editor, Shanny Hilton, resigned. The Sunshiong
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family is sick of blowing money. They've spent a billion
dollars and got nothing for it. Today they laid off
one hundred and fifteen of their writers and editors.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Which is a huge chunk of the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The newsroom twenty five years ago was twelve hundred employees,
writers and editors. Most recently it was down to five hundred,
and now it's down to less than four hundred. We're
going to talk with Daniel Gus from The Gus Report,
independent journalist who's been on our show many times because
he always seems to know what's going on at the
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inside of the La Times.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Daniel, how are.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You hey, John, Thanks for having me back, and congratulations
on going solo with your show.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh, thank you very much. It's good to have you on.
I mean, as soon as Hyong hitting the end of
the road here, he just is sick. I mean, his
wife was quoted in one story that she was tired
of writing a million dollar check every week to prop
up the paper.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, you know, here's the thing, John, that I think
is really lost on the people at the La Times
before the layoffs. Today, this is an industry. The print
media industry is dead. It is dead. If you've seen
no in my corner store, my corner liquor store doesn't
even sell the La Times anymore, and it's it's cover
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prices like four dollars, and it's anarexic for the ninety
year old people who actually subscribe to it. The print.
The news media industry is consolidating. But the people at
the Times failed to realize that they had their Willy
Wonka moment. Remember in the movie Willy Wonka. If you
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got the candy bar with the golden foil wrapping around it,
you got to go to Willie Waka's factory. Patrick soun Sean,
who already owned a big portion of the La Times,
bought the rest of it about six and a half
years ago when the industry was dying. I think he
paid ten times too much. I think it was probably
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worth about forty or fifty million dollars at the time.
And so the industry was shrinking and going anyway because
of the iPhone, because of the Internet, because of the
immediacy of news, such that The Times, in any newspaper
is obsolete by the time it hits your doorstep. And
they had this guy worth about five to eight billion
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dollars with the most noble intentions trying to save it,
trying to reinvigorate the La Times, and the people there
doubled down on crazy, just like on Sunday when they
doubled down on crazy with the George guests gun endorsement,
Just like they doubled down on crazy by having a
(04:05):
walkout for the first time in one hundred and forty
two years. They and they did a hey, let's go guys,
a solidarity of walkout. Son Seng was their last best
chance to get this thing right. It's just the Washington Post,
in the New York Times, now in the USA Today,
and cable news and social media. So yeah, I think
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he's done with it in terms of the nonsense that's
going on. By the way, I don't think it's five hundred.
I've read reports that the newsroom at the LA Times
was down to four hundred, and this would represent about
twenty seven percent. So they need to get their act together.
By the way, let me do the La Times job
for them, because they're you know, just like they endorsed
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George Gascon for reelection over the weekend, I can tell
you four years in advance, they're going to reindorse Karen
Bass for a second term. They're going to endorsed Nithi
Rahman for a second term. In a couple of months,
and then Eunice is Hernandez Hugo Soda Martinez, and Kenneth
Mahea unless Soon Sean gets his daughter, who's been using
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the La Times as a play thing ever since he
bought it for her own personal agenda.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I have not seen a major newspaper turns so far left,
so ultra progressive, so ultra woke, day after day, and
that attitude infiltrated many of their news stories, all their editorials,
all the calmness, all the endorsements. It's it's it's overwhelming,
and it's the only game in town to get print
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news about the state and the county and the city.
And they went so far off the cliff that it's
unreadable a lot of days.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And what was the point of that. Most people aren't
that way.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know what they thought? They thought the good times
are going to continue because we got this. I were
billions of dollars and we formed in La Times Guild
and we're just going to keep marching on forward. And
my evidence of the degree of delusion is that they
have they have a strike on Friday, and Patrick soon Shung,
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the well intentioned owner, referred to that strike as not helping. Yeah,
you know what, if this guy's losing about a million
dollars a week, you guys better snap to it. He
was telling he was telegraphing this with the layoffs last summer.
But you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, if somebody tells if somebody tells you that you're
going to be laid off, going on strike is not
going to save your job.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, how how can you know? What?
I want to know, John, I want to know how
many of the people who were on strike on Friday
and Gloria Molina Grand Park in downtown And by the way,
why did they strike at Grand Park rather than at
their headquarters and smell Segundo. And by the way, Grand
Park is across the streets from where they used to work.
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And I want to know. I really want to know,
don't you. I want to know how many of the
La Times people who struck were on strike last Friday
would have been saved today but ended up getting laid off,
ended up potentially missing a buyout offer. I want to
know who lost their job because of the strike three
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days before a layoff.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, that's a good question, because if I was running
a business that was losing a ton of money. And
I told people, hey, we got layoffs here unless we
can come to some kind of new negotiation about the costs.
And then everybody says, screw you, we're going on strike.
It's like avout with you. I don't have to employ
any of you. You don't have to get anybody today exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
And you know what, some of these are people who
were supposed to be there to bring transparency to the
guy who's in the truck driving the beer to the store,
to the parents who's picking up the kids from school
or little league, and to tell us the truth without
their agenda.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
All right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's like, why design your entire paper behind a radical
progressive message completely forgetting the normal people that you just
described here. You know, the guy riding the truck trying
to make a living, the mom trying to take the kids,
you know, the soccer practice. The normal people who get
together in everybody's neighborhood every night.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You see them. We all live with them, We know them.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That paper was not designed for them, and that's where
the money is, that's where the population is. Instead, it
was this ultra progressive hothouse.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Blod and you know what, they kept They kept pushing it.
A few years ago, a peer of yours from a
different outlet named Larry Elder was running for governor, and
a columnist at The Times referred to this accomplished Larry Elder,
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this accomplished attorney, former judge, a guy who because he
happens to have conservative values, they refer to him as
the black face of white supremacy. You know what, I
want to have a beer with Larry Elder tonight, Larry,
if you're out there, I want to have a beer
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with you. I want to know how good today feels,
even though the person who wrote that about him apparently
still has her job. But it went on and on
and on, and finally a rich guy said, you know what,
this is a bit much, And to Patrick Sunshong's credit
or vision, he says, no, we have a plan. We
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have a plan. We're moving forward. Well, you know what,
I look forward to seeing what that plan is.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know you're giving Patrick credit here, but he's in
charge of the paper. He let this thing spin out
of control with all this extreme progressivism.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
This is what they write about. What they care about the.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
La Times is not what most normal people think not
even most normal liberal Democrats on the West Side are
into the stuff that they preach. So I don't know
why he didn't rain this in a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know what, You've spoken about it fairly extensively. I'm
not so sure that he's in charge of it. I
think he's in charge of it from a you know,
the twenty thousand foot level, but from certain reports inside
he was kind of present and then aloof and then disappeared.
And the wife wanted to build a studio to promote booking,
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and you know, the one hundred best restaurants, the one
hundred restaurants that closed. But it appears that and I
wrote about this a few months ago where I said
that Sun Shongs are far left. Daughter Nika Sun Schong
was interfering with both the editorial board and the reporting
to the point where they couldn't refer to looting. Yes
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as looting.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yes, the word looting was banned. I gotta go, Daniel,
thanks for coming on, Thanks for coming on all right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Whenever you needed me, sir, I'll always.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Be here, all right, Journalist Daniel Gus you're listening to
John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We got something coming up at two thirty, don't we
don't we? Huh help me out here?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, we are gonna have attorney Morgan Stewart. Oh this story.
I saw this this morning. This is so disgusting. I
thought this story had long been settled. Do you remember,
and this is going back more than ten years ago,
there was a pedophile teacher in the Los Angeles school
district named Mark Burnt, and he was feeding his students
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cookies laced with his bodily fluids.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, that bodily fluid.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
I remember that story so well.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Once you hear it, you can never forget it. And
then he would take pictures of them, I guess, eating
the cookies. He would put tape over their eyes and mouths.
I can't see a teacher doing this to me when
I was a little kid.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I can't imagine, even if I was eight years old,
standing there and the teacher's putting tape on my mouth
and eyes and giving me some funky taste in cookies.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Well, what would you have done?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Kicked them in the nuts?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Really?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I think I would have.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think I think some kids are You know, you
look at teachers as as kind of godlike figures you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Want to see. That's the thing I never did.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I had contempt for all my teachers that I understand that.
And I can't even get into the nuns anyway, we're
gonna have the story is back. There was another two
victims that got a settlement from LAUSD. Attorney Morgan Stewart
is going to be on with us. He represented the victims. Okay,
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this not going to believe we got we got a
story here from Fox eleven. It's cut thirteenth. Gina Silva
did the report. I hadn't heard of this thing. There
is a guy who was in a car chase in November.
La County Sheriff's deputies were chasing him. He collides with
a second man in a white truck and the guy
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ended up dying.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Right the second guy ended up dying. The perpetrator was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Released on his own recognaissance and now he hasn't showed
up for he hasn't shown up for his court date.
This is all true after he killed the guy. Play
the clip from Gina Silver Fox eleven.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
This is the violent end to a high speed pursuit.
The guy on the ground is twenty year old Victor Duiremasies.
He led La County Sheriff's deputies on a chase on
November twenty fourth, twenty twenty three. This is video of
that horrific crash. At the intersection of Arteesia and Long
Beach Boulevardsdarte Masias slams into an innocent driver, Pedro Barrera,
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the impact so severe it severs federal's left arm. Three
days later, a Compton judge Releasesdarte Macias without bail on
his own recognissance. He was ordered to be in court
this Monday, but Darte Massias did.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Not show up.
Speaker 8 (14:23):
This suspect and defendant did not show up to court
is not at all surprising. He's facing serious charges. He
maded the police, and I'm quite surprised that judge let
him out without having to post bail. I mean to me,
it's just it's hard to explain and I don't understand it.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Criminal defense attorney Dimitri Goren isn't the only one struggling
to understand the decisions made in this case.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Pursuing someone at a high speed right and then obviously
to let him go days later. It's just heartbreaking because
we lost a family member.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
When we first spoke with Pedro's family. They shared the
heartbreaking news. Six weeks after the crash, Fthro died from
multiple complications.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
He's so traumatic, it is, there's no words. No one
could understand the pain.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I'm surprised the district attorney has not yet brought murder charges.
If I'm the prosecutor handling this case, I would have
my most experienced detectives looking for him to bring him
to justice and bring him to court.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
The La County Sheriff's Department got back to us tonight
explaining the suspect was originally charged with felony evading a
peace officer with great bodily injury. They did not have
any details as to why a Compton court released Duartemasias
on his own recognissance. We also contacted the La County
DA's office, but they did not get back to us
in time for this story.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So this is another Gascon special, trying to you know,
piece the details together here. So so it's a difficult
name to pronounce for me. Victor Dutemisius. He collides with
Pedro Barrera. Police are chasing Dorta Messius. It severs Herrera's
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left arm. Six weeks later he dies from complications. Now,
at the time he was put in jail, Barrera hadn't
died yet. But that charge that genas silver list had
sounded pretty serious. Evading police with serious bodily injury. Uh,
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no bail, And now Ferrera died and there's no murder charges.
This is Gascone's world here. Can you believe this?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
The guy died.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And doorta Messius released on bail, released without bail on
his own recognisance? What does that mean exactly? You have
to you have to recognize yourself. Yes, I recognize myself.
Or do they give the guy a marrior? Do you
recognize yourself?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I recognize yourself. Well, you're released on your own RECOGNI
that doesn't make any sense that term. He's twenty years old,
he's probably not even in the country anymore. How are
there not murder charges? How is there not bail? This
must have been a gasc in order. My god, every
day there's some tragedy, some atrocity that you could connect
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to George Gascon every day. This is criminal justice reform.
Not keeping a guy in jail who murdered a man
who's who's led police on a chase. What this is insanity.
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This is what I keep saying. This is not normal
politics or normal positions on issues.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
This is insanity. This is anarchy.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
This is the destruction of our way of life. I
don't know what it takes to wake people up. You've
got to vote differently. And this one we didn't even
know about for you know, for about a month. All right,
when we come back, more insanity, the case of Mark
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Burnt and his seaman laced cookies that he was feeding
kids over ten years ago. The story is back because
there's two more victims who've won three and a half
million dollars from LAUSD. That's where your tax Bundy's going.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Forty after three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We have another candidate for Los Angeles District Attorney to
talk with. Return visitor to our show, Deborah Archiletta. Judge
Deborah Archiletta, and she was in the debate last week,
and we will discuss how her campaign is going to
unseat the despicable, deplorable George Gascone.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't think i'd see this story again. Well, it
was over ten years ago when in a Los Angeles
Unified School District teacher named Mark Brent pleaded no context
to twenty three charges lude conduct upon a child. He
got twenty five years in prison. This was the case,
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you may remember if you were around then, where he
was feeding his children in class cookies laced with his
own seamen and taking pictures of them, yeah, his own
bodily fluids. He would also tape over their eyes and
their mouths. Turns out that parents and students and teachers
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had been complaining about his sexual misconduct all the way
back to the early nineteen eighties. So weird, creepy, gross
things had been going on thirty years. The LA Unified
School District paid one hundred and forty one million dollars
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to eighty one victims. They also played paid thirty million
dollars to the families of sixty five students at Miramonte
Miremante Elementary School. It turns out there is there's more
multimillion dollar settlements. Here, two more victims we're going to
talk with. We're going to talk with Morgan Stewart, one
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of the attorneys at Manly, Stuart and Finalde Morgan.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Are you there, yep, I'm here. Thanks for having me on, guys,
this is nuts.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who are these new two victims?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Because I thought this had all been settled, you know,
ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Well, you abuse students for thirty years, you see, you
have a lot of victims that come forward, and the
two latest victims that we settled, Uh, we're fearful coming forward.
And you know, part of part of his ability to
operate were lower income students, students who he instilled fear in. Uh,
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and that sticks with you for for quite a while.
So you know, there are still students coming forward from
that were abused by him, even to this day. They
are they are still coming forward and and indicating they
were abused, and you know, they're they're they're scared, They're
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they were scared, and they're dealing with it on a
daily basis. So they're they're coming forward slowly.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Is there a deadline legally for them to file their claims?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I mean there's the the statutal limitations. Obviously it
was extended uh a few years ago, so most of
them have until they're forty to file.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 10 (21:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, I thought it was okay.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
So yeah, so they changed it about three or four
years ago.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So were these victims of the cookies or were there
other acts that they suffered from Mark Brent.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know, he Burnt had a weird pedophilia that was
probably a mixture of some sado masochism as well as
just straight sexual abuse. So his victims like these, uh
involved not only the eating of the semen laced cookies,
but as well as the blindfolding, taking pictures, and the
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putting hissing bugs on their their shoulders and on their faces,
just like he did to hundreds of other victims.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And he did this stuff in the classroom.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
He did it in the classroom. It wasn't it wasn't
really a closed secret.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
I mean you you alluded to this.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
I mean we're going back to the early nineteen eighties
where he was dropping his pants in front of students,
and were he tight clothes that you would expose as generals?
And the administration knew this, they brushed it off, or
they excused it, and they allowed it to happen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What was the upside for the administration to excuse it?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
This is what I've never gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I understand the kids not wanting to talk about it,
right because it's very traumatizing, humiliating, But he's doing this
weird stuff in public.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I've never heard of this stuff in my life.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I mean, on its face, this is a sicko, right,
and parents must have known about it obviously and they complained.
So what to me if I'm an administrator and I'm
getting all these stories, I don't want to be connected
to this. I want out of this.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You you would, And because we're normal, I mean, the
short answer is, because we operate in a rational world.
But you look at I mean, look at Mark Burns.
You look at George Penman de la Torre, you are
George Peenmenthal. You look at Martin Springer. All these sexual
(24:12):
abusers that were operating under and with the explicit and
implicit permission of lausd all in the same general area,
all in the same general time, with hundreds and hundreds
of victims, and the school administration at that time did
nothing about it. They excused it, they allowed it. They
(24:32):
were friendly with these individuals. They didn't want to turn
in their fellow colleagues.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I know that there's a certain amount of sickos in
human society. There always will be, right the Mark Burns,
I just don't understand the administrative layer at a school
to be embracing these weirdos. And it had to have
been a number of administrators. If this went on from
the nineteen eighties to the early twenty tens, that's thirty
(24:58):
years worth of administry.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Yes, and you would again, in a rational society, you
would say that's not okay. But this is la USD.
This is the same institution which collected all of their
sexual abuse reporting and destroyed them during this process of
what's going on. If you operate in a world where
(25:22):
LAUSD is willing to destroy sexual abuse records, what, as
an administrator says to you, Well, that's you know, they're
going to destroy them.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Why do I have to do anything to report these people?
That's that's the that's the.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
World we're operating in in the you know, two thousand
to two thousand and fifteen, sixteen time period of LAUSD.
They don't care, they're just they're they're they're covering. Frankly,
they're covering it up. And they knew they were covering
it up by destroying these records.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I know, we've had you on and your partner, John
Manle on so many times, and you've represented so many
sexual abuse victims. You know, from from the universities and
the schools, the churches. I mean, you know, it's an
endless list of cases that we're all familiar with, and
it's the same story every time. And I'm just fascinated,
(26:16):
Like this entire generation of administrators at all levels of
education knew about. You know, we need total up all
the cases, literally thousands of kids getting sexually abused in
some sick, demented way, and it's the same story. Nobody
wanted to do anything. They covered it up, they destroyed
the paperwork. What I mean, what do you think as
(26:39):
these as these cases keep coming into your office, what
do you think of humanity?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, I think one and I think we talked about
this before. The legislature needs to fix the system.
Speaker 10 (26:51):
If if an.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Administrator knows they're going to get at most a flap
on the hand misdemeanor six months, you know, penalty for
failing to report, and and the likelihood is one percent
you are going to get prosecuted under that for.
Speaker 10 (27:08):
Failing to report. What's there? You know, what, what's their.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Incentive other than I'm a good human, uh, you know,
and I do the ethical thing, which should be enough.
But it isn't that the legislature needs to hammer and
put put failing penalties on that this and you start,
you start putting administrators in prison for for failure to report,
(27:33):
the system will change. But so far the unions have
stopped and blocked that from occurring. Somebody needs to say
what is going on with with somebody blocking holding people
who fail to report accountable. And you know, from the
humanity standpoint, this is I mean, we have an ongoing
(27:54):
Miramante case humanity standpoint.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
L a U.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
S D is current arguing in that case. It's an
ongoing argument that they shouldn't be liable because it's a
gift of public funds to compensate a survivor for being
sexually abused. And there's a constitutional provision that prevents a
gift of public funds.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
To a survivor.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
That their base, their argument is a survivor that they
fail to protect shouldn't get public funds for being abused
by a perpetrator.
Speaker 10 (28:34):
That's that you you know, you want to get down
to humanity.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
That's that's what uh, the superintendents and the assistant superintendents
are saying. This is okay, We're going to say you
can't compensate a survivor because we don't want to give
them a gift. That's that's the argument they're currently making.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
L A U.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
S D is actually making this in a public forum,
saying we can't give survivors gifts.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
You know, I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't know how for all these decades you guys
have been able to deal with all these cases, because
it's just infuriating and disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Really well, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 10 (29:13):
I appreciate you, guys, I really do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Morgan Stewart the attorney at Manly Stuart and Finaldi and
it's two more victims of the infamous Mark Burnt, who
is in prison for a long time. It was three
and a half million dollars for these two extra lawsuits
and he was the seaman laced cookie teacher.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty'ron.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
From one till four and after four o'clock John Cobelt's
show on demand, and listen particularly to the Steve Garvey
interview that we did in the first hour one thirty
to two. It would be our number one if you
can scroll thirty minutes in. If you're short on time,
moistline is eighty seven seven moist eighty six eight seven
seven moist eighty six eight seven seven sixty six four
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seven eight eight six. We have been following the story
in Orange County of that little six year old boy
who got shot while mom was driving him to school
back in twenty twenty one. You remember this story. We
talked about it extensively. The other day the trial started
and it continued yesterday and the mother, Joanna Kloonan, was
(30:28):
cut off by a driver, Marcus Eures, actually Marcus's girlfriend
who was driving, but Joanna kloon and the mom of
the little boy, flipped the girlfriend off, and she was
testifying that Marcus Eres, as that car passed her, turned
(30:52):
and smiled at.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Her, and he was the one who.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Shortly thereafter fired a gun shot into Klunan's car and
it killed her son Aiden. And Joanna took the stand
on Monday, pretty gripping testimony. She went into the courtroom
with a support dog, and she had driven Aiden from
(31:19):
their home in Coasta Mesa to Calvary Chapel Preschool in
Yorba Linda and the driver of a Volkswagen sportswagon began
to come up quickly behind her. It scared me. Joanna said.
They swerved out of the carpool lane and then in
front of my car abruptly, and Kloonan said that after
(31:42):
cutting her off, the driver, who was the girlfriend, winn
A Lee, flashed a peace sign, and Joanna said, I
didn't want to be near these people. I left the
carpool lane. We were next to each other. I made
a gesture that was the middle finger, and I started
to merge away from them. She acknowledged the jester was
(32:02):
the middle finger, and Joanna said she briefly made eye
contact with the man that is Marcus Arives, the boyfriend.
He looked at me and smiled. I tried to get
away as much as I could, and then shortly thereafter
she heard a bang. She thought somebody had thrown a
rock at the car, and it was the bullet entering
the car and entering her son. And you see this guy,
(32:25):
there's photos of him. He's some creepo with a ponytail.
I am anti men wearing ponytails.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I know you are.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm immediately suspicious bothers me. I can't explain why exactly.
And you know he died shortly thereafter. It was terrible.
And if you remember this case, this case in senses
me because the defense attorney, in his opening argument was
(32:56):
making this ridiculous, wild nonsense claim that the man here
who pulled the trigger is not Marcus. Like it is Marcus,
but it's not Marcus. That Marcus split into two. There's
the Marcus here today, and then there's the Marcus who
pulled the trigger. And apparently Marcus number two didn't realize
(33:20):
what Marcus number one was doing. I'm paraphrasing, but that
was the gist of his defense, not denying that he
pulled the trigger and killed the boy, just saying that
the other Marcus inside Marcus's body wouldn't approve of what
the first Marcus did. Now, this public defender, Randall Bethune,
(33:46):
when it was his turn to ask the mom, Joanna Kloonan,
he only asked one question, whether she had previously told
anyone about what she described happening when she caught eyes
with Marcus Arives. Did you tell police you recalled the
passenger in the car smiling. I don't recall, the mother answered,
so is that the defense?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
What does that matter? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Did you tell the police that you recalled the passenger.
They're trying to prove, well, maybe it wasn't Marcus Ebriz
who fired the gun. They've already they can prove he
fired the gun. I mean the bullet ripped through the
trunk of the car and then traveled into Aiden's back,
through his liver and lung, pierced his heart, and so
(34:33):
it wasn't long before he died.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I am because he smiled? Does that make him more
of a a criminal?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
There?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know, there's less than a criminal.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
The defense attorney's tried to play this confusion game with witnesses,
hoping they could track them into saying something contradictory. But
that's the only question that he's got. And remember that
Marcus Rives was hiding for two weeks.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Well, he didn't listen to the news, right, he didn't
listen to KFI to know that police were looking for him.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That was the defense attorney's argument, because obviously that looks
like consciousness of guilt, and that's a legal term whether
someone's behavior in the ensuing days and weeks would lead
a reasonable person to believe that, oh, he knew he
did it, he knew he was guilty because he went inhead,
he tried changing jobs, and the excuse for the defense
attorney rand up with you and is well, he doesn't
(35:31):
listen to KFI. Could you imagine if you had killed
somebody and it made the news, and this was really
big news because it was a six year old boy.
Can you imagine going two weeks and try to convince people. No,
I wasn't aware. I didn't watch the news, I didn't
listen to KFI.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
People get at I mean, worst defense attorney I've ever
heard this jury. I hope we have non vegetables on
the jury. I don't hope we don't have a jury
of avocados.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
I think that even people who eat avocados can be fare.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
People with the IQ of avocados. Deborah Mark live in
the KF. Oh wait before I do that. Deborah Archiletta,
the judge running for Gascon's DA job.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
She's up next. Should listen to her.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
After Deborah's news, I'll i DeBras again, live in the
KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to
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