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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We are going to talk to Daniel Guss, the independent journalist,
coming up after two point thirty to discuss Jose Weezar,
the La City councilman who got thirteen years in prison
on bribery. He would charge developers lots of money, made
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a million and a half dollars in bribes, or they
wouldn't get their towers built, their residential towers or their
office buildings, no go. He was in charge of that
committee and his district was downtown, so he had a
lot of power and he milked them million and a
half dollars. He got gambling chips, luxury hotels, hookers, expensive meals,
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more hookers. We'll talk to Daniel Guss about it. Coming up.
David Milton is with us right now. David Milton minus
seenm on TV the other day, are on the stream,
I should say, running for La County District Attorney again.
It's the George Gascone and we are trying to have
on everybody who's running against Gascon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
There's a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I think there might be eleven people on the ballot
if they want to come on.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I have David Milton here. Welcome. How are you.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm doing fine, John, Thank you for having me on
the show.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now you have been a judge of the Superior Court,
the municipal court, judge, former deputy district attorney here in
La County, and now you've been a private judge for
about the.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Last ten years.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And tell me having being a private judge and handling
cases privately people who don't want to go through the
traditional court system, it is probably good work because you
could set your own hours. It is yeah, you know
that pays the bills. Well, I imagine why would you want
to leave that comfortable arrangement and get in the fray
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as La County District attorney.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It is as just as simple.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Let me tell you something. I was in that DA's
office for a number of years, as you know, and
I prosecuted some of the most difficult cases you can
prosecute in any jurisdiction in this entire country, state or federal.
I know how that office ought to work. And so
to see that mister Gascon has been completely derelict in
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his executing the duties of the office. I feel compelled
to return to public service after thirty six years of
public service, I feel compelled return and to get that
office back on its core mission, which is public safety.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I'm looking through your resume here. Between your career as
a judge and your career as a prosecutor, You've had
a number of death penalty cases and many other life
without parole cases. You seem to have no problem taking
care of the real bad guys.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Not whatsoever. It's about public protection, public safety.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
What do you think is the root of this current wave.
It's not just in LA but in other cities where
it's not just lenient sentences anymore. In a lot of cases,
it's no sentences. It's no bail, it's no punishment. It's
not like let's give them a break and let them
out early after you know, ten or fifteen or twenty years.
It's they won't even charge like gascon who charge enhancements,
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no gun enhancements.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What do you think is motivating this?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I believe gascone is just a part of a national
movement to take away our constitutional, democratic republic. They're moving
us toward socialism and then eventually communism. And I'll share
a story with you about well, the most dangerous are
probably the most dangerous people I've ever met in my
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entire career, if you'd like me to do that all
this time, all right, This is when I was in
the district. I was prosecuting this case. The individual I
was prosecuting had just been released from prison for running
over a person's head. He was released. Two weeks later,
he went into a park where three boys with their
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girlfriends were smoking marijuana. The individual, the perpetrator, the killer,
told the boys to get out of the park, and
they say, yeah, right, buddy. Well, he sprung to action,
as he typically does. He has no mercy on anyone.
He takes the first young teenager, puts the gun to
his eye socket and discharges the gun kills him instantly.
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He grabs a second young man and he puts the
gun point touching his cheek and discharges it and then
again into his eye. The third boy is running away.
This boy. He shoots at that young man and he
hits him a couple of times, but this young man survived.
Two weeks later, on Halloween night, he goes to this
young couple's home. He believed that this couple provides information
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to law enforcement. Well, the evidence shows that this man
was the victim husband was in a recliner chair and
the defendant was stooped next to him whispering in his air.
We believe to catch him unawares. He puts the gun
to his skin and discharges it from his cheek and
up the round went from down to up. He then
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stands over this man, the victim, and puts the gun,
the tip of the gun touching the top of his
head and discharges the gun again, killing him the third.
Then the wife, we find her body at the door
and she's got two gunshot wounds behind in the head. Later,
he threatened my witnesses all throughout this trial, and witness
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I had in custody. We had to bring the sheriff
brought him down from a state prison. We had to
hide him in the jail's infirmary because this guy was
trying hard to knock our witness out. The guy then
was convicted since death. He went up to prison and
he started killing again inside prison. This is a dangerous man.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
He took a lot of appeals and finally, after rounds
of appeals over years, his sentence was reduced to life
in prison without the possibility parole. Now you ask me
why did I tell you the story, because mister Gascone
is attempting to get him out along what Yes, that's
a true story. Gascone has a move up in Sacramento
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and others attempting to get anyone who has served or
serving a life without the possibility of parole sentence. If
you've done twenty years or more, including this guy, yes,
you're entitled to immediate release. So I got this guy
convicted back in nineteen eighty seven. In two thousand and seven,
he was under Gascon's policy. He's entitled to immediate release.
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This is the most dangerous people I've ever met, and
you should never ever be released back on society.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
That policy has gone through yet, they're working on it
right now. They're working legislature and got it sobbing for it.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
He's lobbying for it up there in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh my god, that's such a chilling, horrible story. I
didn't expect that ending.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, as you can see in my credentials, I've got
a number of life without parole sentences well deserved, and
he's pushing for all of them to be released. As
a Deputy DA. I was able to get two death verdicts.
As a judge, I sentenced an individual to death. He's
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challenging these sentences or one of the death verdicts now,
and he's challenging this death vert. He wants these people released.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, he's like a cancer in the system. I mean,
there are so many cases that have not been prosecuted.
I don't know if you've heard, but allegedly there's fourteen
thousand cases sitting in the system unprosecuted. Yes, absolutely, yes,
which is mind boggling that there could be, first of all,
that many crimes. And you know, just in his term
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and clearly he has completely abdicated his role as chief
prosecutor for the county.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Let me mention one thing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We have.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Three separate branches of government. He has he's the executive branch,
as you know, and he's usurped the other branches. The
legislature says that certain things must be filed, including enhancements.
He refuses to do it, usurped the function of the
judiciary because he won't allow those cases to come to
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the judiciary. This is his plan. He's emptying jails and
he refuses to put other people in prison. These are
dangerous people who should go there. He's ordered his deputies
not the file and like use of a gun, go
to prison, serious infliction of great bodily injury, multiple victims,
multiple prior convictions. He has ordered his deputies not defiled
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those enhancements.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Did you see this coming when he got elected? I
seemed to sneak up on the world.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
He did, he did. It's it's a national movement and
in my view, and it's just not my view, it's
from credible information. George Soros is funding these soft on
crime DA's and strategically they're being placed in our major
cities in this country. Gascon was up in San Francisco.
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He's booted out. He comes down to San Francisco to
Los Angeles, and he's doing the same. He's destroying our
democratic republic. That's what's going on right now.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
And what is it? What's it? Ned for sorrows?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
You think Soros he's a ninety year old guy, he's
a multi billionaire.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
What why did he aim as fire at America?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Well, he's comment I don't have his exact words, but
he says he's destroyed countries. Be in the past, I
don't know his motive, but he's now passed the baton.
I'm understanding through news accounts to his son.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Oh he has, and the son has been in the
Biden White House numerous times. He's a regular visitors. Yes, wow,
so was there? Well, why don't we take a break
we come back. I want to talk about, like, what
was the moment you decided I've got to jump into
the race, or was there one particular incident or just
an accumulation of everything that's gone on. We'll get to
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that in just a second. We have David Milton on.
He was a Superior court judge, a municipal court judge,
a prosecutor Deputy DA here in La County.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
He's got a long record.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
He's actually got a bucklet of all the major cases
that he presided over as judge, not all of them,
but a representative sample, and also cases that he prosecuted
as well. And he's had quite a career and he
wants to be La County District Attorney.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
You're listening to John co Belts on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Continue now with David Milton. He is formerly a superior
court judge, municipal court judge, former Deputy District Attorney in
Los Angeles, currently a private judge that handles arbitrations and
med mediations. I was going to say meditations, but no
arbitrations and mediations. And he's running in the race. And
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when we left off, I wanted to know, since you're
doing good work as a private judge, what was the
moment you said, I've got to run myself. I've got
to do something here. I can't watch this anymore. Was
it one incident or the accumulation an accumulation?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
John, And let me explain that Number one on my
platform is hate crimes, and there's a reason for that.
Since October seventh, I've seen what's happened to the Jewish
community in this country. And I grew up in Indiana
in the sixties and seventies when I was a little
bit racially tense in this country. I suffered some of
those indignities. And I was also raised in a Judaeo
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Christian family. And so this has made me a strong man,
a man who just does not tolerate injustices. And when
I see these kinds of things happen, someone to hate crime, well,
that means that if someone commits a crime based on
your race, your religion, or your gender. That's what motivated
the crime against you. Let's say, and this is an
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assault and you're beaten, and on top of that, you
should get an enhancement called hate crime enhancement. That's an
extra three years. It should be attached to your sentence
and give you a total time of say six years,
instead of three. Gascon is ordered as deputies not to
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file that enhancement of hate crimes. It's just doing a
terrible disservice to our country, our county, and hate crimes
are degradory to our society. And so this is something
I want to address. There's another thing is outroll smash
and grab, mob flash thefts. Yes, this he's using Prop
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forty seven to charge misdemeanors only, which is he's being
derelict there. He's been disingenuous with the citizens of Los
Angeles County. Let me tell you why. The Penal Code
says that if you were to enter into any establishment,
commercial or residential, and you have the intent to steal
anything of any value, it should be a burglary, and
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if you use force or fear on any of the occupants,
it should be a robbery. These are felonies that would
put you in prison. But Gascon is ordered that they'd
be all filed as misdemeanors and not properly charged as
burglaries and robberies. And the last one undercharging. Think about this.
There is a directive. It's been an effect for a
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couple of years to his deputies. It instructs them, if
you have an illegal alien or illegal entrant who's coming
to the country and he's committed a felony, try to
find a way to charge him with a misdemeanor or
give him diversion so he can avoid deportation. What kind
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of policy is that? Those are the things that caused me. Look,
enough is enough, and I'm willing to leave my private
practice and go and challenge this guy. He must go.
And I want to talk about one more thing. Think
about this, John. If this man has never tried a
case in his entire career, how could he be in
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charge of the largest prosecution agency in the country and
he's never tried a case. It could not be. He's
a plant. He's here to destroy us, he's here to
overcome Earth.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah. I've talked about this a lot on the air
and I really do believe that there is something organized
going on, because a lot of the money does come
from source, and he runs it through multiple organizations and subsidiaries,
and it is affecting all the big cities. It happened
all at once, everybody who's exact exactly the same ideology.
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It seems like an organized attack on our judicial system.
I don't know how you could come up with any
other conclusion.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, I think he is. I think the public's beginning
to recognize that, and so I think most people think
have concluded that Gascon must go. Now the question is
who should be his successor. I'm submitting that I am
the most qualified by far to be the successor based
on my experience. I wrote two death penalty statue bills.
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I sentenced demanded death and I'm not bragging about that.
It's just my experience. I got two death verdicts. No one,
none of the other candidates have anything close to that experience.
You need to have that kind of background to make
those types of decisions if that comes up, if the
issue of whether or not in the voters of CALIFORNI
have said repeat it at least twice, we want that
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penalty as a possible option, and that's what it should be,
a possible option. Gascon won't impose it. I think it's
two or three of the other candidates running said they
won't follow that law, and the others who believed that
they were or could follow the law, they don't have
the experience in dealing with that issue and making that
determination as to which case or set of circumstances that
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the death penalty ought to be sought. In addition to that,
I'm the most qualified because I've had three executive management
positions of attorneys, and to top it off, I'm a
very fair minded, level headed person. It's a common sense approach.
I'm the only Republican in this race. I won't change
my registration just to get more Democratic voters like some
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of the other candidates have done. I won't do it.
I'm a principal man and I'm not extreme. I'm just
law and order, common sense and fair minded. That's where
I'm about.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I think it wasn't too long ago where most people
would agree with most everything you've just said in the
last half an hour. So one more question before we go.
Let's imagine you win a year later. At the end
of twenty twenty five, What is La County like after
a year of David Milton running the District Attorney's office.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I think it will be much safer. And the reason
I say that is because sixty seven percent of the
people who commit violent and serious crimes a recidivist. Usually
the recidiviust is that person's is a state of mind
to do that. And if you are a recidivist and
you are convicted of a crime, I will order that
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the deputies file all appropriate enhancements. If you look at
some of the sentences that I was able to achieve
when I was a Deputy DA, and if I handled
as a judge, those sentences look high. You see one
on there for nine hundred and thirty four years for
molesting and doing all these things to these little girls,
and that nine hundred and thirty four years as a
result of a correct application of the law under gascon
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that would not happen. This person who did this to
those little girls should never be released again. Ever, that's
my view, and a year later out I will re
establish the law. I will make sure that the deputies
are following the law. I'm a strict adherents to law.
We are a constitutional republic, that the Constitution of California
says that we that East County should have a disc attorney,
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and the Government Code says, I think it's twenty five hundred,
says that the disc attorney is a public prosecutor. He
doesn't have the discretion to say, well, I just don't
like the law and it's giving more time. No, you
have the discretion. It's this, if a charge or an
enhancement can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, it should
be charged. It's objective, not subjective.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, if you like what you hear.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
His name is David Milton, former Superior Court judge, Municipal
Court judge, deputy district attorney. He's really done it all
in every field, I guess in justice. And he's on
the ballot running for La County distric Attorney against George Gascone.
David Milton, thank you very much for coming on with us.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And when we come back, we're going to have Daniel Guss,
the Independent Journalist. Today was the day another La City
councilman is going to federal prison for bribery.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
More coming up.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
We're gonna talk more about this verdict against Donald Trump.
You know, it's not every day that a leading candidate
for president gets whacked with an eighty three million dollar
damage claim in court. Egen Carroll, the writer, sued Trump
again for defamation, and a jury just awarded her eighty
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three million. And we'll get into details on that and
give you the history of Trump and Egene Carrocle Carol.
This has been going on for a number of years,
and he's it's hard to keep track. I mean, there's
like seven different court cases Trump's involved in right now,
and in a lot of them are nonsense, obviously, but
you know, this is an actual verdict here. It's a
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civil case, so it's not a criminal conviction. But and
I'm sure eighty three million dollars is not going to survive,
but this is an indication of the climate out there.
We'll get to that coming up. Daniel Gus is with
us because this morning Jose Weezar, the former LA councilman,
thirteen years in federal prison on bribery charges. I mean,
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he got it all. He got a million and a
half dollars in cash. He would did a gambling trip,
chips in Las Vegas, luxury hotels, political contributions, prostitutes, expensive mails.
He got everything. I mean there were liquor boxes filled
with money, and he made a plea to the judge
and got a lot of people to write heartfelt letters.
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But looks like he got the maximum prison sentence for
this thirteen years. Let's get Daniel guss On independent journalists
and to talk about Weezar, because Daniel covers the city
council like nobody else in town.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thank you, John, thank you for having me back. You know,
my primary thought in watching this and all of the
stuff you were just talking with the judge and Trump
and Egene Carroll and the Weezart cases. I am living
the most mundane, boring life compared to these people. How
do you how do you live? How do you live
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with this stuff going on and the risk and is
it worth it? Holy cow?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He had Wezar had so many deals going on. He
was shaking down so many developers. They literally were paying
millions of dollars. And these are big projects in downtown.
These were huge towers. One of them is going to
be a seventy seven story office tower.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah. And in addition to that, he was selling his
power on La City Council to settle what might have
been I don't know if they were, what might have
been legitimate grievances. I think of one of the builders
unions or one of the one of the blue collar
worker unions, and he got involved and took care of
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it on behalf of one of the developers or something
of that sort. So he wasn't just you know, waiting
for his money, his bags of cash, but he was
also interfering with what may very well have been legitimate
union complaints. And what's really funny about it is, as
he was shooting the people of Los Angeles, the bagman
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on the on the Chinese developer side, and on his side,
everybody was skimming their share off of the top. So
there's definitely no honor among these thieves, all right.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
So they've thrown in prison. Weezar, Mitch Englander, another council member.
There was a developer, a lobbyist, a land news consultant,
a Chinese real estate company. Wesar's brother. There's one of
Garcetti's deputy mayor's Raymond Chan. He's still up for trial.
I mean, what a sure, what a bout of rats?
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And is there more to come? Or is this the
end of the round?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Now, well, I can tell you from what I know
there was a lot more going on than this, But
as one prosecutor, I won't say at what government level.
But as one prosecutor told me, we can't. We just
can't get everything. But we get as many of these
charges tried as we can. Some of them can't be
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tried because of statutes or others just because they can't
fully make the case for, you know, to file a charge.
But I can tell you of the six odd years
ago I got a tip of another FBI raid in
a in a office building in downtown Los Angeles, walking
distance from City Hall, where, to the best of my ability,
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there was a business set up that I think we
would call it a ghost occupancy. Where I went and
I looked at the registry in the building lobby, but
I would go and I would see that there was
activity in what should have been vacant office suites. So
I can tell you that I don't know where it's
going from here, but I can tell you with a
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good degree of certainty that all of things that should
have been charged against all of these crooks collectively. Not
everything has been charged, and we're never going to get
full justice. But as a prosecutor told me, we're doing this,
we do the best we can to at least let
them know you better watch out.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Did you see what the lawyers wrote in their plea
to the judge for leniency? They wrote it was easy
for lines to get blurred, and they did. Indeed, this
was true not only for mister Weezar, but was almost
certainly true for virtually all of the elected officials in La.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
What are they?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I agree? Oh, I agree with I agree with that wholeheartedly.
I agree with that whole heartedly. For Korian's La City
Council president pull for Koran's you know, refutation of that
is pure crap. I can tell you firsthand that that
is more true. That statement is more true than not.
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And maybe not on a grand scale, maybe not with
the prostitutes and the and the twenty five thousand dollars
and ten thousand dollars casino chips, but that statement, in
my opinion, is more true than not.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
By the way, John, I have a little bombshell for you,
and exclusive to the John Cobelt Show, the inaugural month
of the John Cobelt Show on KFIAT is that it appears,
it appears, it appears that missus Jose Weezar is no
longer married to mister Jose Weezar. But but we have
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been scouring my my legal resources, and I have been
scouring the La County court system records, and we can't
find any evidence of a divorce between Rochelle Rios wez
Are and Jose Wezar, which tells us one of a
couple of things. By the way, here's how we know
that it's undoubtedly true, is that the judge in the case,
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Judge John F. Walter, who, by the way, what a
great guy to have defending our city and our rights
and the taxpayers. Judge Walter, great guy, great jurists. Is
that he said in several references in the hearing today,
he said that he kept referring to Rochelle Wezar as
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the ex wife, and at one point I believe that
he said something along the lines of she got a
very favorable settlement. And I have this from two other
sources who confirmed that that's more or less what they
have heard. But we can't see it in the La
County court records. Which tells me that the weez are
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if this is true, that they're divorced somewhere outside of
La County or the state, or it's under some sort
of concealed record. So I can tell that with a
strong degree of certainty.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
It makes you wonder why when anything is under undercover
like that, I guess it goes without saying. I checked
today And in two thousand and five, of course, the
Los Angeles Times editorial board endorsed Jose Wezar for office.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, yeah, of course they did, just like a few
days ago before they endorsed Nithia Rahman for re election
to La City Council. I told you on your show,
I said, of course they're going to reindorse her. They're
going to re endorse Karen Bass. I can call that
two or three years ahead, because it never Today the
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Times is talking about how Tamala Harris can help elect
the first female governor of California. So even with a
major crisis at the time, they're still selling grievance and
race and gender, and they're having a pity party for themselves.
And I'm telling you the owner Patrick soun Shan, they
say the heck with this, and he should just get
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the heck out of this, because the longer he sings
the worst. Of course, the La Times endorsed him because
he grew up in poverty. They went to Princeton and
u c. L A. Law and Berkeley and and but
you know what, people like us with the again with
the guy delivering the beard at the corner store and
the parents picking up the kids from the after school
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lessons are tutoring. What's most outraged, says this is that
they didn't need to we are and his apparently now
ex wife apparently alleged they both went to madding that
they both went to UCLA Law school. They should both.
She was going to run for his seat. When he
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turned out the city hall, all of the mechanisms were there.
Everything was getting her in que for that. They should
be rolling in honest money. He should be running for.
He should have been running for mayor in the last
election against Karen Bess Rachelle Weisar should have been the
council member for his old council seat. They had it
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all in place, and they would have made good money.
It would have been a phenomenal success store in an
American success story, and they blew it. They blew it,
and and you know, I find it difficult to believe
that she who went to UCLA law, who was married
to this guy for twenty odd years, she didn't know
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that any of this was going on. Maybe she didn't.
I'm I'm not saying she did, but come on, come on.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
All right, it's always good to have you on, Daniel.
Thank you for coming on and covering all this. Daniel
Gus and the Gust Report. Right, how come people access
the Gus Report? You're on substatus correct?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
How much? Yes, I'm at Daniel Gus with who s
is Daniel Gust dot substack dot com and on Twitter.
Please follow me at the Gus Report. John. It's always
fun to be on your show, and I listened when
I'm not on it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
All right, very good, Thank you, Daniel.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And he's an independent journalist and he's got way more
energy and way more perseverance than the entire LA Times
staff combined. When we come back, we'll give you a
rundown because I know it's hard to pay attention to
all of Trump's court cases, but one of them today
resulted in an eighty three million dollar judgment against him.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
We're going to have Adam Housley come on with us
after three o'clock. Has hit a relative that was killed
in that Borderline shooting in Thousand Oaks a few years back,
and there has been a fight over releasing information the LA.
It's a twisty turning story that Adam will get into.
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But LA Times's six hundred and twenty thousand dollars in
legal fees from the families who are trying to keep
this information sealed for obvious reasons, because it involves a
lot of sensitive issues with the victims of that shooting.
We'll give you all the details coming up. It's quite
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fascinating after three o'clock, all right. So I thought it
would be a good idea just to do a quick
rundown of Gene Carroll because it is very difficult to
keep track of seven Trump trials between the criminal ones
and the civil ones, the political ones lot. You know,
some of them are nonsense. This one turned out to
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be real for him in terms of a verdict because
today a jury said that he has to pay eighty
three million dollars and a defamation lawsuit to eat.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Jean Carroll.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
She was is a writer, magazine writer, a personal advice column.
She had several television shows on Cable TV. She actually
is a writer for Saturday Night Live back in the
eighties and even got an Emmy nomination. So she had
her own media career going in several directions now. In
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June and twenty nineteen, Carol published an article in New
York Magazine and she claimed that Trump sexually assaulted her.
Didn't know the exact date, late ninety five early ninety six.
She said it happened in the Bergdorf Goodman department store
in New York. She published some of the details also
in a book, and she said on her way out
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of the store, she ran into Trump. She said they
knew each other, and he asked her for help buying
a gift for a woman. She suggested a handbag or
a hat, and they moved onto the lingerie section and
made a joke about about one of them trying so on.
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Carrol said they ended up in a dressing room together.
The door was shut. Trump forcefully kissed her, pulled down
her tights, and penetrated her before she could escape. She
said the incident lasted less than three minutes. Two of
her friends said publicly that Carol had confided this in
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to them after the assault. He has always denied allegations,
claimed that they never met, he didn't know her. She
produced a photograph of her socializing with Trump in nineteen
eighty seven. She did not initially describe it as rape.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Calling it a fight.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That's what she said at first and Overber twenty nineteen,
she filed a defamation lawsuit stating that Trump had damaged
her reputation, caused emotional pain, and.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Eventually Trump lost it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Carol sued him for battle in New York, renewed a
claim of defamation, and then in May of twenty twenty three,
the jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse, battery, and defamation.
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The jury awarded her millions of dollars. Trump continued to
deny that anything ever happened, basically implicating Carol as a liar.
So she sued him all over again, and now the
jury is hitting him with an eighty three million dollar verdict.
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So this has been going on now for four and
a half years, multiple court hearings, trials, and she's claiming
he never stops lying about her, and the jury agreed.
Egen Carrol also accused years ago Les Boon as a
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CBS of sexual assault. She said that occurred in the
late nineteen nineties in a hotel elevator as well. So
odds are I mean, I don't think eighty three million
dollar verdicts survive very often on appeal because it's such
an extraordinary amount of money. I can't imagine this makes
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any difference to ninety nine percent of Trump voters, just
based on what's been going on last year.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
It's just what's weird?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Is like, really big dramatic things that would have stopped
the Earth's rotation had they happened ten years ago are
now just another blip in the news, this eighty three
million dollar verdict about a sexual assault by a former
president a current candidate. Ah, he's got a half a
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dozen other lawsuits that people just flat out don't believe
or don't care. So it's just a fascinating state that
we're in. When we come back, we're talking with We're
gonna talk with Hello, hang on, hi, hang on a second,
the headphones went out. I thought I died there for
a second. Glad is that how it happens? He just
(36:14):
your hearing goes first and yeah, then the heart stops,
and then the heart stops and you can't see anymore.
We're gonna Adam housing on, former Fox News correspondent and Uh,
the La Times, the Venturi Star. Uh, they've filed a lawsuit.
They collectively want six hundred and twenty thousand dollars from
the murder victims families in Thousand Oaks. That's the borderline
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shooting from years ago. It's about sixty thousand dollars each.
We are going to talk to Adam, one of his
I believe his niece was was shot to death in.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
That border light.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well, what is the La Times doing demanding money from
the victims of murder, the the families of murder victims?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What what? What?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Why would the La Times be doing that? We'll find
out and the Mentori Star for that matter as well.
Debra Mark Live in the CAFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
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