November 18, 2024 • 33 mins
Tanya Tsikanovsky comes on the show to talk about being part of the LGBTQ community and being alienated from people in her life. Some women are furious with men who they say helped get Trump elected. A migrant boat was found off the coast of Newport Beach.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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going to get right to it here. Tanya sigonofski am
(00:21):
I saying that right, great, Yeah, I'm Polish, so I'm
I think you're Polish too, based on this.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Dame Russian or Russian Ukrainian Ukrainian.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Close enough, we're cousins. She's an out and proud lesbian
who voted for Donald Trump and told her friends about it,
and now she's been locked out of most of her
friend groups and she's going public with what it's been
like for her. We just played the little two minute
story that Fox eleven did on you right before the news.
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When did you decide you were going to tell people
you're voting for Trump because your recent voting history was
Hillary and twenty sixteen Biden in twenty twenty And is
this something that you and your friends always talked about
and there was a day that you had to say, hey,
I'm switching sides.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
No, it was more of me watching everything happened on
campuses over the last year. You know, in my friend groups,
based on my voting history, based on what I look like,
based on my gender and sexuality, people assume that I
am always going to be blue. So the conversation about
who I'm going to vote for wasn't actually a question.
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The assumption was always there. But after watching what was
going on on campus and how the Biden administration did
nothing to prevent students from Jewish students from attending their classes,
I realized that I am doing a disservice to my
Jewish identity if I continue to vote blue. And so
it's been festering all year. I have been very very
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vocal about being a Zionist, which has already alienated me
from queer spaces because at this point, especially in La
Queers for Palestine seems to have taken over every part
of queer life. So I've already felt like I didn't
have a space, and with the election coming up, I
knew that I needed to start using my voice for
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my people, my Jewish people, because as much as I
am a woman, and I am a lesbian. I am
a Jew first. I don't think I'll have the luxury
to live a free gay life if all of a
sudden Jews are no longer allowed to be in this country.
And I feel like I fear that that was the
direction that we were headed, because ten years before the Holocaust,
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students were getting blocked from campuses in Germany. So to
witness that here and to come from a family of
you know, Soviet refugees, who has lost so many of
our family in the Holocaust, you know, I was raised right.
I owe it to my parents to stand up for
my Jewish heritage and Jewish identity, and I love Israel.
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So I decided I needed to be honest about my
vote because I really genuinely believe that my vote will
protect Jews in Israel.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And so that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No I can identify with this, I mean not only
our ancestors from the same part of the world. My
dad was at age fourteen captured from his parents' home
and taken to Ashwitz. They thought he was Jewish, and
they had a committee decided, ultimately by a two to
one vote, that he was not Jewish, and he wasn't
he was Catholic, But had they voted the other way,
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I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't exist. So I've always
been very sensitive too. And I know about Hamas, I
know what's in the charter, and I had been telling
people it's like, there is no different in the no
difference in the goals of Hamas and the other terrorist
groups and the goals of Nazi Germany. It's exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And why is it that so many in your community
can't grasp that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think that Israel comes off as powerful. I think
Israel comes off as white. People assume that Israelis are
white people.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
We chewse our a tiny fraction of this world. There's
fifteen million of us. And I think that because we're
such strong allies with America, I mean, Israel is such
strong allies with America, they assume that we are just
some bombastic bully. You know, there's all of these smear
campaigns that Jews run Hollywood. I'm not really sure how
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we do that if we're constantly being told terrible, but
I just feel like, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean, that's such a superficial reaction that they have.
I mean, they don't really at least debate this to
a deeper level.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
No, there's no, there hasn't been room for conversation. That
was one of the main reasons I decided to be public,
was to try to bridge the gap. I think a
lot of people are coming from places of pain and
fear and ignorance, and so much of that could be
remedied if we just have the difficult convers stations like
we're doing right now. Yeah, you know, and I think
that that's it's unfortunate that so many of my community,
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my queer community, refused to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And going back to the beginning, so is this just
came up in casual conversation with people.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, essentially, I you know, I utilized my social media
to be verry outspoken. I went public online that I
was voting for Trump, and after that, people that I
knew very well for years started to unfollow me sent
me messages saying that they no longer want me in
their life.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But you explained the part about the Palestinian demonstrations and
the Jewish students being blocked.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And that's what's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Somehow, you know, everyone is trying to say that Trump
is going to take gay rights away, which is not true.
But let's hypothetically say that we're true. Let's say marriage
equality was now on you know, potentially could not happen.
But I'm also still a Jew, So if I would
be faced with making a vote, I have to choose
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at that point whether I'm going to vote to protect.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The lesbian in me or the Jew in me. Now,
my priority is to protect the Jew and me.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Why is that somehow less of an issue than someone
else voting to protect themselves. I think it's so selfish
that so many Democrats feel like their own struggle is
the only one that matters and no one else's does.
And if someone else does happen to vote for their
own struggle, they don't want anything to do with you.
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I don't look at someone that voted for Kamala and
think that they somehow don't care about me or they
don't want what's best for me. No, they voted for themselves,
and I respect that. Why don't I get that same
in return? And so, you know, when Elon Musk retweeted
my story and said that it's a cult, it is.
It's absolutely become a cult, and it's horrifying and very sad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah. And the irony, and this has been pointed out
many times, is that these are the people who preach diversity,
and they're absolutely intolerant to diversity of thought, diversity of opinion.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Absolutely, And that's that's what's really scary, because at the
end of the day, politics, laws, everything is ever changing.
And if you're constantly going to keep preaching the same
thing that Republicans are evil and everyone else is evil
and we're right, who says that you're right? You know,
it's so funny to me, but I you know, I
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live in Studio City, and across from my apartment, which
costs a good amount of money, there's a homeless encampment
and there was a Trump sign in that homeless encampment.
And so for me, if I think that the most
like are if the people that have the least in
this country are now hoping that Trump's president, the Democrats
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have failed the communities that they say that they care
about the most, myself included.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Have you been surprised, I'm I'm sure you've noticed this
phenomena for a long time, the group thing phenomena, how
everybody has the exact same thought says the same things
on all the same issues. Did you ever were bothered
by this before question it, before discuss these kinds of
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issues with your friends?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know, honestly, I feel like I have to take
responsibility for being the people that would ostracize people like
me now way back when, if you voted for Trump,
I wanted nothing to do with you. I think I
found posts that I posted back in twenty sixteen saying
I'm packing my bags, I'm leaving this country. And I
feel so mortified that that is how I behaved, because
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I missed out on learning so much, And thankfully I've
had so many years of experience and living in different
places and seeing the world and getting to see the
privilege of.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
What I have here.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And I think that so many people here are just
ignorant of that privilege and just keep on preaching the
same mantra over and over again, and is divided our
country in half. And it's so polarizing, you know. And
I spoke to a colleague who's been a lifelong Republican
and he said, you know, most of us Republicans are moderate.
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We are not those crazy, evil Nazis that the Democrats
want to paint us to be. We don't care about
your sexuality, your gender, your race. We just want moderation
and sensibility in this country. And that's what I want
as well.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
All right, Can you hang on for another segment?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay? Tanya Sigonovsky, Yes, And she is by her own
description and out in proud lesbian who announced online that
she was voting for Trump after going for Hillary and
Joe Biden in the past. And the turning point issue
was the way the Palestinian protest groups treated the Jewish
students at the universities, and the universities largely allowed it
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to happen, and the kids were blocked from attending class.
You know all that story. We're going to talk more
with Tanya coming up John Cobalt Show.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
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Speaker 2 (10:05):
If you're looking for the contest, we're out of money.
Contest ended on Friday, so no more thousand dollars for
a while. We continue with Tanya sickon off Ski. She's
actually grown up in Los Angeles. We were just talking
and lives in the valley now and Tanya made the
news she had posted that she was voting for Donald Trump,
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which shocked everybody she knew because she said she's an
out and proud lesbian and formerly Hillary and Joe Biden voter,
switched to Trump, posted it online, and then got almost
completely shut out by everybody that she knew in her community.
Just like, no questions asked. They just stopped talking to her,
defriended her. The whole routine has Has anybody from that
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group called you and said, secretly, I agree with you,
I voted for him two.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've had a few of those messages, not in particular
from you know, that particular group of people. Thankfully, I've
had maybe a couple out of forty reach out and say,
you know, we don't agree with you, but we know
that you're not a bad person, and we want to
sit and talk to you. So at least they're willing
to have those conversations. But I've had many random messages
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from people saying I voted Kamala because I just like
I just wasn't allowed to vote for Trump, but I'm
so happy he won.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Or I'm telling me that you know I.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Voted, but I told people that I voted for Jill Stein,
and I'm just like I to me.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It's just mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's it was so weird, is is? Maybe it's the
way I grew up. It's a private vote. Obviously, you
don't have to tell anybody anything. Most people that I
knew pre this era, I never knew how they voted.
I didn't know if they were Democratic Republican. In the
last ten years I have found out.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Everybody's political leanings, and I was like surprised in a
lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But I kind of liked it the way it used
to be.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
No, for sure, I mean, but it also speaks to
social media because you also know everyone's lunch. So at
this point, yeah, it's not pleasant either, right, I agree
with that, so I think. But for me, I went
public because I'm public about everything else, right, And so
I and I also want a life in politics. I
do want to effect like meaningful change. I want to
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work in public office. So for me, I feel it's
my duty to be honest and to let the people
know how I'm feeling and why I'm voting a certain
way and what I would ultimately want to do for
my communities.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So was that the only issue that led you to
Trump or were there other policies or things about him
or the way he handled the first administration that made
you comfortable.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it's less.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
About how he handled the administration and more about how
poorly the Democrats have handled this one and how there
was no promise for what will be different next time.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And that is a problem.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
If you're constantly running your platform on simply pointing the
finger on their side, then you're not giving me anything
to work with with or any assurance that you're going
to be better for me.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
My family business is in home health care.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Medicare is not doing well, our border isn't doing well.
Gas prices are crazy. Now people are telling me, well,
Trump won't fix that. I'm like, well, I don't think
there's any evidence to show me that Kamala would have,
so for me, I just I feel like I would
rather do something different and go back to the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Group think thing we were talking about that you're sup
because you're a Democrat or a liberal, but you're supposed
to be in favor of the current border policy when
it's clearly a disaster. All you need are two eyes
to say, wow, this is not working out at all,
and long term, this is really going to be awful.
And I don't know why stuff like that became political
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where you had to take sides, it became polarized. To me,
it was just like a practical issue. It's like, you
can't have this go on. There's no room for all
these people.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
We are a country of immigrants. My family are immigrants.
How they immigrated legally and with the help of the
Jewish Federation, they came as refugees. I love that our
country is a melting pot. I love the diversity in
our country. I don't love jihadis terrorists crossing our border
without any stop. I don't like people being caught, then
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released and going on to commit rapes and murders. I
have friends that live along the border and that are
actively seeking houses in gated communities because they're afraid of
break ins. I mean, these are real life, day to
day problems that we are facing as Americans, and we
keep on harping on, well, you know, you just are
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a racist or you don't, you know, accept immigrants. I'm like,
that's definitely not the case. I just want our country
to be safe. I want the immigrants that are not
going to be trying to blow up our country or
burn our flag. You know, I fully support for you
of speech. I'm a constitutionalist. I care about everyone having
the right to say what they want if they want
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to burn the flag.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I don't want to arrest you. I want to deport you.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't want my tax dollars going to keeping you
comfortably and fed in prison.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I want you out of this country.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It's offensive that you can burn flags of the country
that you are enjoying the privileges of being on.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Do you feel hurt by the way your friends reacted
to you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Absolutely, I mean thankfully I have had enough therapy that
I am holding on to, you know, my values, But
I've cried many tears. I've been heartbroken over the friendships
that I have lost because even though they have clearly
shown to not care about me, I still very much
care about them.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I care about their safety.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I care about their feeling safe and like comfortable in
this country.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know, my values haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I just think that the way that we can improve
our country is different than they do.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do you think the fever has broken? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I think now there are so much, so many more
people that are willing to be honest and have the
hard conversations. Maybe it's lost upon those forty individuals that
I'm thinking of. But you know, when doors close, others open,
and the amount of people that are vocalizing the same thing,
you know, there is no reason that this story would
have gone to the news if it wasn't everyone's story
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to tell. There are so many people that are experiencing this.
I'm not special in this, and I've now been made
aware of that, and I'm grateful to those that have
messaged me and have shown support, and I'm grateful for
this opportunity to be able to bring light to this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, Tanya, thank you for coming on. Of course, thank
Tanya Sikonovsky was fascinating talking with you as well, and
good luck. Thank you, and hopefully your friends will come
around here one day.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (16:52):
Ron from one until four and then after four o'clock
John cobelt Show on demand and if you just tuning in,
we had a really unusual interview with Tanya Sikonofski in
the last half hour. You really ought to listen to
it on the podcast. We're going to post it after
four o'clock. She's a member of the Gay community and
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out in proud lesbian. It's how she described herself, and
she's very public about her thoughts and beliefs on social media.
And when she posted that she's voting for Trump this
time around, the rest of her world cut her off.
Everyone else in her in her community said, well, they
didn't say anything. They just stopped speaking with her, defriended her,
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deconnected themselves, and she was just she's so smart and
so articulate.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, she's the best guests we've ever had on and
I got like immediate reaction from people about her contacting me.
The breaking point with her was the Palestine situation when
she saw in the college campuses the Palestinian protests blocking
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Jewish students from getting to class and just generally terrorizing them,
and nobody came to their defense, certainly not the school administration.
And to see all these you know, democratic activists protesting
and at the same time going after the Jews, that
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that's what flipped her. And you know, she didn't like
what was going on at the border, and obviously the
economy has been in disarray, but you know, she's willing
to deal with Trump and everything that he brings over
the next four years because she just she she identifies
herself more as Jewish than she does as lesbian. She
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had to make a choice. There, Uh, fascinating interview, so
please listen to it now. I was just talking to Debra.
It says, where you get somebody who's who's that reasonable, intelligent, articulate, thoughtful.
Now let's go on back to the other side. The
crazy people. Well, because they make a lot of noise,
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and they last few years, they've had an outside, outside effect.
I've always said that the real progressive movement is like
six percent of the country. But they've gotten control of
the media, the political debate, academia, Hollywood, just all the
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big institutions where they've got the megaphones, and a lot
of people have been canceled, silenced, intimidated, just shut down
in some way, as Tanya's friends and associates are now
trying to do to her. So here's the next wave.
And this started in Korea, of all places. Young women
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are swearing off men. It's called the four B movement.
It's a radical feminist camp that started in Korea but
is making inroads here in the US since the Trump
election started a few years ago. Now the four bees
stand for by han, which means no marriage by Yeo
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and I, no dating, by chilsan, no birthing, and by
sex no sex. Why I guess BI in Korean is
no So no marriage, no dating, no birthing, no sex
because men are horrible. So stop all contact, do not
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commiserate with them, don't date them, don't have sex with them,
don't marry them, and certainly don't have a kid with them.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And this is all the rage among young women in Korea,
and it's now going viral on US social media.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
So there are no crazy women out there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They're fury.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
No, there aren't, not at all.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I mean we know some.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No I don't. I don't know. I don't know any.
They're furious with men who helped Trump win.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Although women helped Trump win as well.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
He won fifty three percent of the white female vote,
among other things. On TikTok, they've had top videos millions
of views. One tweet about the four B movement has
four hundred and fifty thousand likes and twenty one million
views at the time this article was written. And here's
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some quotes from some of the women. The writer here
names Catherine Kim. She writes for Politico. She said, she
sat down at a bar in Brooklyn with my cousin,
who's a recent college graduate from Korea, and she, Catherine Kim, said,
how's your love life? And she says, I'm not interested.
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I just don't trust men. You don't know what they're
thinking these days, whether they're one of those guys with
miss misogynistic thoughts. It's so normalized. Why would I even
risk it. She doesn't want to date, she doesn't want
to get married, and she just wants to hang out
with other single women. All my friends rarely date these
days for that reason. These are the issues we all
talk about when we get together. Wow, jeez, the whole
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they wrote off, the whole species.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's one Korean feminist last name Saha. Think of the
movement as a labor strike.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
She says, Okay, so what they're gonna They're gonna keep
to this plan for four years and then they're gonna
go back to dating, having sex, getting married. I forgot
what the other.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Hunt the uh no sex, no marriage, no birthing, O birthing.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Not having kids. You're gonna wait and you're not going
to have children.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Uh yeah, and then the then the time runs out,
and then regret sets it. Well, first of all, you
will come to a genetic dead end if you think
about this. I mean, this problem here is going to
take care of itself. All the women who hate men.
Eventually there'll be no women like that because.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
But you know, it doesn't make sense about this. John
is Okay.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
If you don't want a man that voted for President Trump,
then I'm sure you can find somebody that voted for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, there are a few guys who did.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
There are a few guys who were not neutered who
voted voted for Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I didn't know. They seem to hate men at a
much deeper level that Trump has just become a symbol.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, it was the same. It can't just be about.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No, it's that they assume that we're all filthy, disgusting
animals and all we have are violent sexual thoughts in
our heads.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Well, I mean that isn't a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right, That doesn't make me a bad person.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Oh it doesn't. Oh, you have all those things going on.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wow, you know, I'm most of the guys I know
are not like that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Well, I'm glad that you don't hang out with guys.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I mean, I've always been like amused by all this.
It's like, all right, I'm sure there are you know,
some fraternity brother types right who are barbarians, But that's
always going to be with us. That's always been with us.
But somehow all guys are getting tard with this with
this brush.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Hey, look, if they don't want to be with men,
then I mean, then that's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I mean, if somebody hates me that much just
because I'm a man, believe me, I'm not looking for trouble.
I'm not going to ask you out.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Well, you're not going to do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You're married, no, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But just theoretically, if I'm a young guy out there
and I hear this, I mean a woman and she
spills out this, it's like, hey, I don't want to date,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Want need sex. I certainly don't want to get married.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There'll be no kids because I don't want life with you.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I mean that it's going to be a self
self fulfilling prophecy that if they don't want anything to
do with men, then okay, fine, believe me, guys will
run like how to get out of there?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Will we have more lesbians? I mean, is that what's
going to happen? Not that there's anything wrong with that,
but is that what they're going.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
To choose to do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I guess maybe they're just going to choose to have
a kind of a sexless group community relationship with other
women who feel the same way.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Well you'll save a lot of money not having kids.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, And it's like, it's good that you're upfront about that.
I think all these women should post online. Maybe we
can come up with a new set of pronouns or something,
or just write no, no, no, no, no no for
the four categories, and then you look online. Put that
on the dating app. Although I don't know why you'd
be on a dating you wouldn't be on it. No,
you wouldn't be on a dating app. But just in general,
put no, no, no, no, the four no's. They call
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it the four bees in Korea. I would call it
the four no's. And then we noticed stay away, you know,
just three hands up, surrender in advance.
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This happened Thursday. Do you hear about this? Thursday night,
the Coast Guard intercepted a boat with twenty one I
legal aliens on it off the coast to Newport Beach.
They saw they thought the boat was acting suspiciously. I
don't know what that means. I don't know how a
boat acts suspiciously. But twenty one migrants were arrested, eighteen
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of them Mexicans, two from Uzbekistan, and one Russian. And
this had happened in Newport Harbor back in May, twenty
migrants were seen walking onto a pier and then scattering
into town. This time the coast Guard apprehended the twenty
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one migrants because they were still on the boat. And
we've got a clip here, pay we're gonna play cup three.
Matt Seedarf interviewed the mayor of Newport Beach, Will O'Neil
from Newport Beach, and he's really upset.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
When you have people from Who's Bekistan of all places
coming in through the southern border.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Something is broken.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Every city in California right now is essentially a border city.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thanks to the law SB fifty four.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
We are told that our local authorities are prohibited from
working with federal authorities to try to stop.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
People like this.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
There's no way that you intend on trying to protect
who's becky nationals coming in from our southern border. Get
your act together, figure this out, because we are having
real problems affecting real people and on your cities all
across California. You cannot continue to treat every city in
California like a border city.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You cannot put us in this position. We have real problems.
We need you to fix them. Now, get your act together.
You know, everybody in the state is yelling at Newsom
over one thing or another that we just can't put
up with anymore. Nationally, people got fed up with the
Biden administration, and there's been a lot of converts, maybe
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not necessarily Trump's supporters, but they're willing to vote for
Trump because Biden and Kamala Harris was they were so
terrible that revolutionary spirit's got to come to California. Here.
You can't put up a Newsom. You know, you look
at the incredibly high taxes, the incredibly high gas prices
and electricity prices. I mean, this is the epicenter of inflation.
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We got the second highest unemployment, second, highest gas prices,
highest gas taxes, highest electricity prices, and it's all because
of Newsom's policies. It's going back, actually, you know, almost
twenty years, and I'm waiting for people to coalesce around
(29:12):
an alternative. And it's got to be in the next
election cycle because his policies can't go on. This this
this mandate to ban gas powered cars, which is now
only ten years away. It's got to be reversed, and
the next governor has to reverse it, and you have
to vote for him because he or she is willing
to reverse it. Conways, here, I got something for you.
(29:35):
Oh yeah, what do you got man?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I heard you talking the other day about how much
I needed money.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Ben and his brother's back in the news, and you
remembered the fry the men indies and you remember the
poster that we had that night with the frying picture
and I had this.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Take a look at that. Oh that's great. Plen's the
glass framed up with this on social media. Yeah, fry
them and then die. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think we know. Yeah, it was somebody put it
on like styrofoam.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He's going to come after us too. He's going to
come after you and me when they get out, because
we you know Leslie Abramson. Their lawyers said, you can't
get a fair trial in this town because of idiots
like Conway and Seckler. You don't think if they if
they're willing to kill their parents in cold blood while
they're eating ice cream, you don't think they're going to
kill a couple of radio idiots.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I never thought of that until I heard you say
that the other day, and I'm thinking, you know, he's right,
it's a lea and say I'm against release. Yeah, I'm
a totally against release just for that. I have a
personal investment in that. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But can't you call your your guy hawkman? I mean
you did him a solid by putting them in office.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, I don't know if it works that way. It does,
you know it does. He's squeaky clean.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It works that way.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Favors and government. You don't think that George Clooney and
all those guys, all those celebrities get anything out of
U dorsing Kamala Harris Well, Oprah got what two.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And a half million?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's true, Yeah, Oprah got a good paycheck. Right, So
you get and she needed it too. You're not asking
for money, You're just asking these two idiots don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, because it's easy. Only have to just keep them
locked up. That's right.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You don't have to try him again. You don't have
to investigation. You don't have to have like one hundred
investigators until you and I are dead and then they
can release. Yeah, you meet Ken and Stecklan. That's the
four that he's going they're going after. Alex Stone is
coming on tonight. We'll talk about Spirit airlines. I guess
they ran that era laid line into the ground. Also,
(31:37):
we have remember that story last about a month ago,
guy driving up near Arrowhead and two big boulders fell.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
On his van. That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
We got that guy coming on today. It's a wild story,
you know. I mean these you know, eighteen ton boulders
crashed into his brand new van.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That almost killed him. We've been driving up to Arrowhead
for over twenty five years, and so many times there
have been rocks like oh yeah that close eighteen or
or there's uh well, either rocks coming down from above,
or the highway gives way down and go falls down below.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Right, because the mountains are constantly moving.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yes, yeah, and it's not meant to have roads along
the side of it. That's not a thing. That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Then we'll have Rich murd to talk about the fight.
I didn't get to see much of it. I was
buffering a lot of the night, buffering and Burbank that
you watch a fight.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, I was at that night, but you didn't miss anything,
That's what I heard. Yeah, the old guy doesn't got
it anymore. Man. I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
He went well, he went one round. I know he
went he went no, but I mean one round where
he had the first round it looked like he was.
He was winning after round one and then he you know,
when you're sixty father time always wins man, always knocks down.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That sucks because I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I used to watch so many Mike Tyson Fox when
I was younger, and we had him on the show too.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He's a great guy. Man. A few words, which is
not great for radio. That's the number one requirements, right,
you have to say something that's right. All right, Comedy's
coming up. The big dog with you, bro. Michael Kreuzer
has the news live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel
Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome. We're on every day
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you know what to do. After four o'clock go to
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on demand. It's the same as the radio show. We're
going to get right to it here. Tanya sigonofski am
(00:21):
I saying that right, great, Yeah, I'm Polish, so I'm
I think you're Polish too, based on this.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Dame Russian or Russian Ukrainian Ukrainian.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Close enough, we're cousins. She's an out and proud lesbian
who voted for Donald Trump and told her friends about it,
and now she's been locked out of most of her
friend groups and she's going public with what it's been
like for her. We just played the little two minute
story that Fox eleven did on you right before the news.
(00:54):
When did you decide you were going to tell people
you're voting for Trump because your recent voting history was
Hillary and twenty sixteen Biden in twenty twenty And is
this something that you and your friends always talked about
and there was a day that you had to say, hey,
I'm switching sides.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
No, it was more of me watching everything happened on
campuses over the last year. You know, in my friend groups,
based on my voting history, based on what I look like,
based on my gender and sexuality, people assume that I
am always going to be blue. So the conversation about
who I'm going to vote for wasn't actually a question.
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The assumption was always there. But after watching what was
going on on campus and how the Biden administration did
nothing to prevent students from Jewish students from attending their classes,
I realized that I am doing a disservice to my
Jewish identity if I continue to vote blue. And so
it's been festering all year. I have been very very
(01:55):
vocal about being a Zionist, which has already alienated me
from queer spaces because at this point, especially in La
Queers for Palestine seems to have taken over every part
of queer life. So I've already felt like I didn't
have a space, and with the election coming up, I
knew that I needed to start using my voice for
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my people, my Jewish people, because as much as I
am a woman, and I am a lesbian. I am
a Jew first. I don't think I'll have the luxury
to live a free gay life if all of a
sudden Jews are no longer allowed to be in this country.
And I feel like I fear that that was the
direction that we were headed, because ten years before the Holocaust,
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students were getting blocked from campuses in Germany. So to
witness that here and to come from a family of
you know, Soviet refugees, who has lost so many of
our family in the Holocaust, you know, I was raised right.
I owe it to my parents to stand up for
my Jewish heritage and Jewish identity, and I love Israel.
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So I decided I needed to be honest about my
vote because I really genuinely believe that my vote will
protect Jews in Israel.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
And so that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No I can identify with this, I mean not only
our ancestors from the same part of the world. My
dad was at age fourteen captured from his parents' home
and taken to Ashwitz. They thought he was Jewish, and
they had a committee decided, ultimately by a two to
one vote, that he was not Jewish, and he wasn't
he was Catholic, But had they voted the other way,
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I wouldn't be here, I wouldn't exist. So I've always
been very sensitive too. And I know about Hamas, I
know what's in the charter, and I had been telling
people it's like, there is no different in the no
difference in the goals of Hamas and the other terrorist
groups and the goals of Nazi Germany. It's exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And why is it that so many in your community
can't grasp that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I think that Israel comes off as powerful. I think
Israel comes off as white. People assume that Israelis are
white people.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
We chewse our a tiny fraction of this world. There's
fifteen million of us. And I think that because we're
such strong allies with America, I mean, Israel is such
strong allies with America, they assume that we are just
some bombastic bully. You know, there's all of these smear
campaigns that Jews run Hollywood. I'm not really sure how
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we do that if we're constantly being told terrible, but
I just feel like, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean, that's such a superficial reaction that they have.
I mean, they don't really at least debate this to
a deeper level.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
No, there's no, there hasn't been room for conversation. That
was one of the main reasons I decided to be public,
was to try to bridge the gap. I think a
lot of people are coming from places of pain and
fear and ignorance, and so much of that could be
remedied if we just have the difficult convers stations like
we're doing right now. Yeah, you know, and I think
that that's it's unfortunate that so many of my community,
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my queer community, refused to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And going back to the beginning, so is this just
came up in casual conversation with people.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, essentially, I you know, I utilized my social media
to be verry outspoken. I went public online that I
was voting for Trump, and after that, people that I
knew very well for years started to unfollow me sent
me messages saying that they no longer want me in
their life.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But you explained the part about the Palestinian demonstrations and
the Jewish students being blocked.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And that's what's unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Somehow, you know, everyone is trying to say that Trump
is going to take gay rights away, which is not true.
But let's hypothetically say that we're true. Let's say marriage
equality was now on you know, potentially could not happen.
But I'm also still a Jew, So if I would
be faced with making a vote, I have to choose
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at that point whether I'm going to vote to protect.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The lesbian in me or the Jew in me. Now,
my priority is to protect the Jew and me.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Why is that somehow less of an issue than someone
else voting to protect themselves. I think it's so selfish
that so many Democrats feel like their own struggle is
the only one that matters and no one else's does.
And if someone else does happen to vote for their
own struggle, they don't want anything to do with you.
(06:34):
I don't look at someone that voted for Kamala and
think that they somehow don't care about me or they
don't want what's best for me. No, they voted for themselves,
and I respect that. Why don't I get that same
in return? And so, you know, when Elon Musk retweeted
my story and said that it's a cult, it is.
It's absolutely become a cult, and it's horrifying and very sad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah. And the irony, and this has been pointed out
many times, is that these are the people who preach diversity,
and they're absolutely intolerant to diversity of thought, diversity of opinion.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Absolutely, And that's that's what's really scary, because at the
end of the day, politics, laws, everything is ever changing.
And if you're constantly going to keep preaching the same
thing that Republicans are evil and everyone else is evil
and we're right, who says that you're right? You know,
it's so funny to me, but I you know, I
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live in Studio City, and across from my apartment, which
costs a good amount of money, there's a homeless encampment
and there was a Trump sign in that homeless encampment.
And so for me, if I think that the most
like are if the people that have the least in
this country are now hoping that Trump's president, the Democrats
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have failed the communities that they say that they care
about the most, myself included.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Have you been surprised, I'm I'm sure you've noticed this
phenomena for a long time, the group thing phenomena, how
everybody has the exact same thought says the same things
on all the same issues. Did you ever were bothered
by this before question it, before discuss these kinds of
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issues with your friends?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
You know, honestly, I feel like I have to take
responsibility for being the people that would ostracize people like
me now way back when, if you voted for Trump,
I wanted nothing to do with you. I think I
found posts that I posted back in twenty sixteen saying
I'm packing my bags, I'm leaving this country. And I
feel so mortified that that is how I behaved, because
(08:40):
I missed out on learning so much, And thankfully I've
had so many years of experience and living in different
places and seeing the world and getting to see the
privilege of.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
What I have here.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And I think that so many people here are just
ignorant of that privilege and just keep on preaching the
same mantra over and over again, and is divided our
country in half. And it's so polarizing, you know. And
I spoke to a colleague who's been a lifelong Republican
and he said, you know, most of us Republicans are moderate.
(09:13):
We are not those crazy, evil Nazis that the Democrats
want to paint us to be. We don't care about
your sexuality, your gender, your race. We just want moderation
and sensibility in this country. And that's what I want
as well.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
All right, Can you hang on for another segment?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay? Tanya Sigonovsky, Yes, And she is by her own
description and out in proud lesbian who announced online that
she was voting for Trump after going for Hillary and
Joe Biden in the past. And the turning point issue
was the way the Palestinian protest groups treated the Jewish
students at the universities, and the universities largely allowed it
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to happen, and the kids were blocked from attending class.
You know all that story. We're going to talk more
with Tanya coming up John Cobalt Show.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
If you're looking for the contest, we're out of money.
Contest ended on Friday, so no more thousand dollars for
a while. We continue with Tanya sickon off Ski. She's
actually grown up in Los Angeles. We were just talking
and lives in the valley now and Tanya made the
news she had posted that she was voting for Donald Trump,
(10:28):
which shocked everybody she knew because she said she's an
out and proud lesbian and formerly Hillary and Joe Biden voter,
switched to Trump, posted it online, and then got almost
completely shut out by everybody that she knew in her community.
Just like, no questions asked. They just stopped talking to her,
defriended her. The whole routine has Has anybody from that
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group called you and said, secretly, I agree with you,
I voted for him two.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I've had a few of those messages, not in particular
from you know, that particular group of people. Thankfully, I've
had maybe a couple out of forty reach out and say,
you know, we don't agree with you, but we know
that you're not a bad person, and we want to
sit and talk to you. So at least they're willing
to have those conversations. But I've had many random messages
(11:19):
from people saying I voted Kamala because I just like
I just wasn't allowed to vote for Trump, but I'm
so happy he won.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Or I'm telling me that you know I.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Voted, but I told people that I voted for Jill Stein,
and I'm just like I to me.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
It's just mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's it was so weird, is is? Maybe it's the
way I grew up. It's a private vote. Obviously, you
don't have to tell anybody anything. Most people that I
knew pre this era, I never knew how they voted.
I didn't know if they were Democratic Republican. In the
last ten years I have found out.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Everybody's political leanings, and I was like surprised in a
lot of cases.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But I kind of liked it the way it used
to be.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
No, for sure, I mean, but it also speaks to
social media because you also know everyone's lunch. So at
this point, yeah, it's not pleasant either, right, I agree
with that, so I think. But for me, I went
public because I'm public about everything else, right, And so
I and I also want a life in politics. I
do want to effect like meaningful change. I want to
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work in public office. So for me, I feel it's
my duty to be honest and to let the people
know how I'm feeling and why I'm voting a certain
way and what I would ultimately want to do for
my communities.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
So was that the only issue that led you to
Trump or were there other policies or things about him
or the way he handled the first administration that made
you comfortable.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, it's less.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
About how he handled the administration and more about how
poorly the Democrats have handled this one and how there
was no promise for what will be different next time.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And that is a problem.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
If you're constantly running your platform on simply pointing the
finger on their side, then you're not giving me anything
to work with with or any assurance that you're going
to be better for me.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
My family business is in home health care.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Medicare is not doing well, our border isn't doing well.
Gas prices are crazy. Now people are telling me, well,
Trump won't fix that. I'm like, well, I don't think
there's any evidence to show me that Kamala would have,
so for me, I just I feel like I would
rather do something different and go back to the.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Group think thing we were talking about that you're sup
because you're a Democrat or a liberal, but you're supposed
to be in favor of the current border policy when
it's clearly a disaster. All you need are two eyes
to say, wow, this is not working out at all,
and long term, this is really going to be awful.
And I don't know why stuff like that became political
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where you had to take sides, it became polarized. To me,
it was just like a practical issue. It's like, you
can't have this go on. There's no room for all
these people.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
We are a country of immigrants. My family are immigrants.
How they immigrated legally and with the help of the
Jewish Federation, they came as refugees. I love that our
country is a melting pot. I love the diversity in
our country. I don't love jihadis terrorists crossing our border
without any stop. I don't like people being caught, then
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released and going on to commit rapes and murders. I
have friends that live along the border and that are
actively seeking houses in gated communities because they're afraid of
break ins. I mean, these are real life, day to
day problems that we are facing as Americans, and we
keep on harping on, well, you know, you just are
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a racist or you don't, you know, accept immigrants. I'm like,
that's definitely not the case. I just want our country
to be safe. I want the immigrants that are not
going to be trying to blow up our country or
burn our flag. You know, I fully support for you
of speech. I'm a constitutionalist. I care about everyone having
the right to say what they want if they want
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to burn the flag.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I don't want to arrest you. I want to deport you.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't want my tax dollars going to keeping you
comfortably and fed in prison.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I want you out of this country.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It's offensive that you can burn flags of the country
that you are enjoying the privileges of being on.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Do you feel hurt by the way your friends reacted
to you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Absolutely, I mean thankfully I have had enough therapy that
I am holding on to, you know, my values, But
I've cried many tears. I've been heartbroken over the friendships
that I have lost because even though they have clearly
shown to not care about me, I still very much
care about them.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I care about their safety.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I care about their feeling safe and like comfortable in
this country.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You know, my values haven't changed.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I just think that the way that we can improve
our country is different than they do.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Do you think the fever has broken? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I think now there are so much, so many more
people that are willing to be honest and have the
hard conversations. Maybe it's lost upon those forty individuals that
I'm thinking of. But you know, when doors close, others open,
and the amount of people that are vocalizing the same thing,
you know, there is no reason that this story would
have gone to the news if it wasn't everyone's story
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to tell. There are so many people that are experiencing this.
I'm not special in this, and I've now been made
aware of that, and I'm grateful to those that have
messaged me and have shown support, and I'm grateful for
this opportunity to be able to bring light to this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, Tanya, thank you for coming on. Of course, thank
Tanya Sikonovsky was fascinating talking with you as well, and
good luck. Thank you, and hopefully your friends will come
around here one day.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Ron from one until four and then after four o'clock
John cobelt Show on demand and if you just tuning in,
we had a really unusual interview with Tanya Sikonofski in
the last half hour. You really ought to listen to
it on the podcast. We're going to post it after
four o'clock. She's a member of the Gay community and
(17:14):
out in proud lesbian. It's how she described herself, and
she's very public about her thoughts and beliefs on social media.
And when she posted that she's voting for Trump this
time around, the rest of her world cut her off.
Everyone else in her in her community said, well, they
didn't say anything. They just stopped speaking with her, defriended her,
(17:36):
deconnected themselves, and she was just she's so smart and
so articulate.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
She was great.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, she's the best guests we've ever had on and
I got like immediate reaction from people about her contacting me.
The breaking point with her was the Palestine situation when
she saw in the college campuses the Palestinian protests blocking
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Jewish students from getting to class and just generally terrorizing them,
and nobody came to their defense, certainly not the school administration.
And to see all these you know, democratic activists protesting
and at the same time going after the Jews, that
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that's what flipped her. And you know, she didn't like
what was going on at the border, and obviously the
economy has been in disarray, but you know, she's willing
to deal with Trump and everything that he brings over
the next four years because she just she she identifies
herself more as Jewish than she does as lesbian. She
(18:43):
had to make a choice. There, Uh, fascinating interview, so
please listen to it now. I was just talking to Debra.
It says, where you get somebody who's who's that reasonable, intelligent, articulate, thoughtful.
Now let's go on back to the other side. The
crazy people. Well, because they make a lot of noise,
(19:04):
and they last few years, they've had an outside, outside effect.
I've always said that the real progressive movement is like
six percent of the country. But they've gotten control of
the media, the political debate, academia, Hollywood, just all the
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big institutions where they've got the megaphones, and a lot
of people have been canceled, silenced, intimidated, just shut down
in some way, as Tanya's friends and associates are now
trying to do to her. So here's the next wave.
And this started in Korea, of all places. Young women
(19:51):
are swearing off men. It's called the four B movement.
It's a radical feminist camp that started in Korea but
is making inroads here in the US since the Trump
election started a few years ago. Now the four bees
stand for by han, which means no marriage by Yeo
(20:17):
and I, no dating, by chilsan, no birthing, and by
sex no sex. Why I guess BI in Korean is
no So no marriage, no dating, no birthing, no sex
because men are horrible. So stop all contact, do not
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commiserate with them, don't date them, don't have sex with them,
don't marry them, and certainly don't have a kid with them.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And this is all the rage among young women in Korea,
and it's now going viral on US social media.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
So there are no crazy women out there.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They're fury.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
No, there aren't, not at all.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I mean we know some.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No I don't. I don't know. I don't know any.
They're furious with men who helped Trump win.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Although women helped Trump win as well.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
He won fifty three percent of the white female vote,
among other things. On TikTok, they've had top videos millions
of views. One tweet about the four B movement has
four hundred and fifty thousand likes and twenty one million
views at the time this article was written. And here's
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some quotes from some of the women. The writer here
names Catherine Kim. She writes for Politico. She said, she
sat down at a bar in Brooklyn with my cousin,
who's a recent college graduate from Korea, and she, Catherine Kim, said,
how's your love life? And she says, I'm not interested.
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I just don't trust men. You don't know what they're
thinking these days, whether they're one of those guys with
miss misogynistic thoughts. It's so normalized. Why would I even
risk it. She doesn't want to date, she doesn't want
to get married, and she just wants to hang out
with other single women. All my friends rarely date these
days for that reason. These are the issues we all
talk about when we get together. Wow, jeez, the whole
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they wrote off, the whole species.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's one Korean feminist last name Saha. Think of the
movement as a labor strike.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
She says, Okay, so what they're gonna They're gonna keep
to this plan for four years and then they're gonna
go back to dating, having sex, getting married. I forgot
what the other.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Hunt the uh no sex, no marriage, no birthing, O birthing.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Not having kids. You're gonna wait and you're not going
to have children.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Uh yeah, and then the then the time runs out,
and then regret sets it. Well, first of all, you
will come to a genetic dead end if you think
about this. I mean, this problem here is going to
take care of itself. All the women who hate men.
Eventually there'll be no women like that because.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
But you know, it doesn't make sense about this. John
is Okay.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
If you don't want a man that voted for President Trump,
then I'm sure you can find somebody that voted for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, there are a few guys who did.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
There are a few guys who were not neutered who
voted voted for Harris.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I didn't know. They seem to hate men at a
much deeper level that Trump has just become a symbol.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, it was the same. It can't just be about.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
No, it's that they assume that we're all filthy, disgusting
animals and all we have are violent sexual thoughts in
our heads.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Well, I mean that isn't a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right, That doesn't make me a bad person.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Oh it doesn't. Oh, you have all those things going on.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Wow, you know, I'm most of the guys I know
are not like that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
Well, I'm glad that you don't hang out with guys.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I mean, I've always been like amused by all this.
It's like, all right, I'm sure there are you know,
some fraternity brother types right who are barbarians, But that's
always going to be with us. That's always been with us.
But somehow all guys are getting tard with this with
this brush.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Hey, look, if they don't want to be with men,
then I mean, then that's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, I mean, if somebody hates me that much just
because I'm a man, believe me, I'm not looking for trouble.
I'm not going to ask you out.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Well, you're not going to do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You're married, no, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But just theoretically, if I'm a young guy out there
and I hear this, I mean a woman and she
spills out this, it's like, hey, I don't want to date,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Want need sex. I certainly don't want to get married.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There'll be no kids because I don't want life with you.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You're out of your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I mean that it's going to be a self
self fulfilling prophecy that if they don't want anything to
do with men, then okay, fine, believe me, guys will
run like how to get out of there?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Will we have more lesbians? I mean, is that what's
going to happen? Not that there's anything wrong with that,
but is that what they're going.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
To choose to do.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I guess maybe they're just going to choose to have
a kind of a sexless group community relationship with other
women who feel the same way.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Well you'll save a lot of money not having kids.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, And it's like, it's good that you're upfront about that.
I think all these women should post online. Maybe we
can come up with a new set of pronouns or something,
or just write no, no, no, no, no no for
the four categories, and then you look online. Put that
on the dating app. Although I don't know why you'd
be on a dating you wouldn't be on it. No,
you wouldn't be on a dating app. But just in general,
put no, no, no, no, the four no's. They call
(26:00):
it the four bees in Korea. I would call it
the four no's. And then we noticed stay away, you know,
just three hands up, surrender in advance.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
This happened Thursday. Do you hear about this? Thursday night,
the Coast Guard intercepted a boat with twenty one I
legal aliens on it off the coast to Newport Beach.
They saw they thought the boat was acting suspiciously. I
don't know what that means. I don't know how a
boat acts suspiciously. But twenty one migrants were arrested, eighteen
(26:37):
of them Mexicans, two from Uzbekistan, and one Russian. And
this had happened in Newport Harbor back in May, twenty
migrants were seen walking onto a pier and then scattering
into town. This time the coast Guard apprehended the twenty
(26:58):
one migrants because they were still on the boat. And
we've got a clip here, pay we're gonna play cup three.
Matt Seedarf interviewed the mayor of Newport Beach, Will O'Neil
from Newport Beach, and he's really upset.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
When you have people from Who's Bekistan of all places
coming in through the southern border.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Something is broken.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Every city in California right now is essentially a border city.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thanks to the law SB fifty four.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
We are told that our local authorities are prohibited from
working with federal authorities to try to stop.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
People like this.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
There's no way that you intend on trying to protect
who's becky nationals coming in from our southern border. Get
your act together, figure this out, because we are having
real problems affecting real people and on your cities all
across California. You cannot continue to treat every city in
California like a border city.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You cannot put us in this position. We have real problems.
We need you to fix them. Now, get your act together.
You know, everybody in the state is yelling at Newsom
over one thing or another that we just can't put
up with anymore. Nationally, people got fed up with the
Biden administration, and there's been a lot of converts, maybe
(28:19):
not necessarily Trump's supporters, but they're willing to vote for
Trump because Biden and Kamala Harris was they were so
terrible that revolutionary spirit's got to come to California. Here.
You can't put up a Newsom. You know, you look
at the incredibly high taxes, the incredibly high gas prices
and electricity prices. I mean, this is the epicenter of inflation.
(28:46):
We got the second highest unemployment, second, highest gas prices,
highest gas taxes, highest electricity prices, and it's all because
of Newsom's policies. It's going back, actually, you know, almost
twenty years, and I'm waiting for people to coalesce around
(29:12):
an alternative. And it's got to be in the next
election cycle because his policies can't go on. This this
this mandate to ban gas powered cars, which is now
only ten years away. It's got to be reversed, and
the next governor has to reverse it, and you have
to vote for him because he or she is willing
to reverse it. Conways, here, I got something for you.
(29:35):
Oh yeah, what do you got man?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I heard you talking the other day about how much
I needed money.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Ben and his brother's back in the news, and you
remembered the fry the men indies and you remember the
poster that we had that night with the frying picture
and I had this.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Take a look at that. Oh that's great. Plen's the
glass framed up with this on social media. Yeah, fry
them and then die. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think we know. Yeah, it was somebody put it
on like styrofoam.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
He's going to come after us too. He's going to
come after you and me when they get out, because
we you know Leslie Abramson. Their lawyers said, you can't
get a fair trial in this town because of idiots
like Conway and Seckler. You don't think if they if
they're willing to kill their parents in cold blood while
they're eating ice cream, you don't think they're going to
kill a couple of radio idiots.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I never thought of that until I heard you say
that the other day, and I'm thinking, you know, he's right,
it's a lea and say I'm against release. Yeah, I'm
a totally against release just for that. I have a
personal investment in that. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But can't you call your your guy hawkman? I mean
you did him a solid by putting them in office.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, I don't know if it works that way. It does,
you know it does. He's squeaky clean.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It works that way.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Favors and government. You don't think that George Clooney and
all those guys, all those celebrities get anything out of
U dorsing Kamala Harris Well, Oprah got what two.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And a half million?
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's true, Yeah, Oprah got a good paycheck. Right, So
you get and she needed it too. You're not asking
for money, You're just asking these two idiots don't kill you.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, because it's easy. Only have to just keep them
locked up. That's right.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You don't have to try him again. You don't have
to investigation. You don't have to have like one hundred
investigators until you and I are dead and then they
can release. Yeah, you meet Ken and Stecklan. That's the
four that he's going they're going after. Alex Stone is
coming on tonight. We'll talk about Spirit airlines. I guess
they ran that era laid line into the ground. Also,
(31:37):
we have remember that story last about a month ago,
guy driving up near Arrowhead and two big boulders fell.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
On his van. That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
We got that guy coming on today. It's a wild story,
you know. I mean these you know, eighteen ton boulders
crashed into his brand new van.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That almost killed him. We've been driving up to Arrowhead
for over twenty five years, and so many times there
have been rocks like oh yeah that close eighteen or
or there's uh well, either rocks coming down from above,
or the highway gives way down and go falls down below.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Right, because the mountains are constantly moving.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yes, yeah, and it's not meant to have roads along
the side of it. That's not a thing. That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Then we'll have Rich murd to talk about the fight.
I didn't get to see much of it. I was
buffering a lot of the night, buffering and Burbank that
you watch a fight.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, I was at that night, but you didn't miss anything,
That's what I heard. Yeah, the old guy doesn't got
it anymore. Man. I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
He went well, he went one round. I know he
went he went no, but I mean one round where
he had the first round it looked like he was.
He was winning after round one and then he you know,
when you're sixty father time always wins man, always knocks down.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
That sucks because I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I used to watch so many Mike Tyson Fox when
I was younger, and we had him on the show too.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
He's a great guy. Man. A few words, which is
not great for radio. That's the number one requirements, right,
you have to say something that's right. All right, Comedy's
coming up. The big dog with you, bro. Michael Kreuzer
has the news live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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