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January 9, 2025 45 mins

Press conference updating everyone on the Eaton Fire in Altadena. Carl DeMaio comes on the show to talk about the process fire victims will have to go through to try to rebuild their homes and communities. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Canf I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio apps.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, we're going to go now to that press conference.
It looks like it's Catherin Barger speaking right now.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
We cannot, and let me make it clear, we will
not allow this to continue to happen. Those who evacuated
have faced imaginable devastation, displacement, and loss. We must stand
up against opportunists who want to prey on these victims.
I will not stand by and allow an already traumatic

(00:33):
experience to be further compounded. I stand here today with
the Sheriff as he makes an important announcement that will
amplify our ability to protect our vulnerable communities in their
time of need. My deepest thanks to our first responders
who have been battling this place and to the law
enforcement officers who have been standing up against criminal activity

(00:56):
to the best.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Of their ability.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I am confident that these steps we are taking today
will give us extra leverage and support needed to really
crack down on this important issue. To our residents, we
stand with you and will continue to.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Stand up for you.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's frustrating to me when we ask people to evacuate.
Their greatest fear is am I going to come back
not only to a home that's standing, but if it
is standing, have people come in and burglarize my home.
They shouldn't have to make that choice. So with that,
I would like to introduce our Los Angeles County Sheriff,
Robert Luna.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Thank you, supervisor, Just so all of you know her
leadership's amazing and we've been on the phone consistently with
a lot of the challenges that we're facing, but we
remind each other we're facing them together and we have
a lot of good things going on.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
So as we're working through this, I want everyone to
know that the Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
County Sheriff's Department has officially requested the support of the
California National Guard for both fires, at least in La County,
both the Palisades and Eton fire. We are in the
process and will coordinate deployments for any additional request through

(02:17):
the county, and just so everybody's aware, in order to
request mutual aid at least for law enforcement in Los
Angeles County, I'm the primary regional coordinator for that, so
the request was made through our department, but we are
working in collaboration with the Los Angeles Police Department, Chief
Jim McDonald, Chief Jeen Harris who joined here to the left,

(02:41):
and then the Chief Ramon Baptista from the Santa Monica
Police Department, and then any other chiefs of police who
may need additional resources as a result of these fires.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Will make sure that we do that.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
So for the last twenty four hours or so, we
have had approximately four hundred National Guard members throughout the
state ready to support us, and as I just stated,
they will be coming in. We expect that they may
be on site as soon as tonight. That may change
a little bit, but they will be assisting us with

(03:20):
traffic control and critical infrastructure protection. They will be staged
throughout the Los Angeles region, and our Emergency Operations Bureau
is currently working on specific missions that they will fulfill
both in these affected county fire areas, the city of Pasadena,

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the city of Santa Monica, and the City.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
This wouldn't be possible without the assistance of Governor Newsom,
who approved this request. He's been consistently on the phone
with our leadership asking what that we need, and we're
very grateful for that. Effort will allow law enforcement to
free up our resources and move personnel to other critical

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areas throughout the county, in a sense, becoming a force multiplier.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I'm gonna switch gears a little bit now.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Earlier there was a lot of questions, as there should be,
about the death toll here in Los Angeles County as.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
It specifically relates to the fire.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Anytime I talk about numbers, whether they are fatalities or
we're talking about potential looting arrest, I'm going to tell
you something. The number just continuously fluctuates, and it's because
we're still in a very chaotic scenario. And just to
give you an idea, and I'm surrounded by a lot

(04:48):
of firefighters.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
And the fire chief will come up and talk next.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
We're still working in a very fluid and active environment,
meaning that there are still spot fires going on in areas,
there's gas leaks. So when people are asking us for
numbers of fatalities, we want to give them to you,
but we have to wait until it's safe for our
personnel to be able to go in there and do

(05:12):
this right Because to some people, the death told may
just be a number. To us on our side of
the Fence and Public Safety. Each one of those numbers
is a family member. We're going to have to make
notifications with our partners at the Corner's office to let
them know that they they're not going to see their
family members anymore. So, just again, it's preliminary and it's

(05:34):
absolutely going to change. But as of right now, and
we stated this yesterday, we do have a confirmed five
deaths between Palisades and the Eaton fire, but that number
again is going to change as more information comes in
and when we start to get into the damaged area.
The homicide detectives for the La County Sheriff's Department are

(05:55):
trying to get into the locations to process the scenes,
but they been delayed for the dangerous conditions that I
just spoke about. But once homicide is able to get
in there, they'll do the death investigations and then we'll
have more complete information that a lot of people are
asking us for. I also want to mention that our

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team has been working on a curfew. Our goal is
to attempt to implement a curfew within the specific impacted
areas around the two fire areas, both for Palisades and Eaton.

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As we work through the legal process to get that done.
The goal is to try and implement it tonight. If
we're not able to do that, that may happen maybe
by tomorrow night. That curfew looks like it'll be from
six pm to six am, again six pm to six am.

(07:03):
That will be the goal we will be enforcing that.
I think if most of you heard our press conference
earlier today, we had a number of looting arrests throughout
the entire county region.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
That is unacceptable behavior.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Having additional resources, having the National Guard with us, which
will augment those resources, will help send a stronger message
keep people out of the impacted areas so we don't
continuously victimize the people who have already been victimized, who
have lost their homes. So we'll continue to work on

(07:42):
the evacuation orders as soon as we can.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
We'll give you more specific information because a.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Big legal part of that is that we have to
notify our community of what it is and how that works.
And just to wrap up for us, we have increased
resources for our burglary and looting suppression. Unfortunately, there have
been crimes out there that have been reported to us

(08:10):
by residents who have evacuated their homes. Our deputies continue
to do an amazing job of conducting humanitarian missions and
they've had many, many rescues. And I do want to
stress that the majority of the people they are having
to rescue out of homes and vehicles are individuals that

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chose not to evacuate, not only putting themselves in danger,
but putting the first responders in more significant danger. So
please you hear this over and over when somebody tells
you to mandatory evacuate, please evacuate preliminarily. I know we're
talking about twenty arrest. Preliminarily, we have about twelve arrest

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related to looting, and again that number hasn't been confirmed.
We're checking that. We're also getting the number of about
sixteen and that's at the multiple impacted areas throughout the
County of Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
But we'll continue to collaborate, and.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
As I stated earlier, I'm in constant contact with the
California Office of Emergency Services. That's where we made the
official request for the California National Guard. I've been in
communication with the Commissioner of the California Highway Patrol. He's
offered his assistance and we've deployed with his partnership or

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collaboration multiple CHP officers for traffic.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Control around the area.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
My last item is this, if you have any questions
about current evacuation orders or warnings or the many street
closures that we have here in Los Angeles County, please
visit Lacounty dot gov slashy emergency for updated information. And

(09:57):
with that, I am going to now introduce the fire
chief for Los Angeles County best looking fire Chief, Tony Maroney.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
Thank you, Sheriff Lunan, Supervisor Barber, Chair of the board.
So I'm gonna limit my comments to an update for
the Eaton fire here in Los Angeles County that's affecting
the unincorporated community of Altadena, in addition to the cities
of Pasadena, Arcadia, and Sierra Madre. We remain in unified command. However,

(10:31):
we have added one unified command partner, CAL Fire Incident
Management Team three has been assigned to the incident to
assist with recovery operations. Recovery operations consists of trying to
coordinate all of our human remained detection teams that will
be going house to house to make sure that we

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can account for anybody who's been killed in the fire,
also setting up community recovery centers. They're also going to
be doing damage inspection coordination for US. So the Eton
fire is now estimated to be thirteen thousand, six hundred
and ninety acres. It's grown since our morning press conference

(11:17):
because the fire is making a run towards the historic
Mount Wilson area. We are still at zero percent containment,
but we now have a better estimation of the number
of fire personnel assigned to the incident. We're now at
one thousand, five hundred and twenty seven personnel assigned and

(11:39):
like this morning, additional mutual aid resources to continue to
arrive to assist in the firefight. This morning, we did
have a firefighter suffer a significant injury in a fall.
That firefighter is resting comfortably at an area hospital. He's
in stable condition and he is expected to make a

(12:00):
full recovery. We now have a confirmation that we have
a potential for over four to five thousand structures damaged
or destroyed. The definition of a structure could be a
single family residence, a multifamily residence, a commercial occupancy, an outbuilding,

(12:21):
or a vehicle. So this morning I reported one thousand.
We are now reporting four to five thousand of those
types of structures. The cause of the fire remains unknown
and under investigation by the Sheriff's Department along with the
La County Fire Department and.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
The US Forest Service.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
The reason that the sheriff is going to be reporting
fatality information because the cause of the fire is unknown
at this time. If it turns out that this was
an arson fire, any death that relates from an arson
fire is considered to murder and the LASD investigates those

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types of crimes. The number of resources assigned to this
fire siege has increased significantly and we are in a
much better posture than we were on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Out of state resources continue to arrive in LA County,
and we're appreciative to all of our firefighters from throughout

(13:23):
the Western United States for providing assistance to Los Angeles
County in our time of need.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Regarding the current red flag.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Warning condition, as I stayed it this morning, it's going
to continue for Los Angeles County and much of Ventura County.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Through Friday, but I think we all realize.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
That the winds have significantly diminished after the PDS was
canceled four pm yesterday, so we're hoping that the weather
is going to continue to cooperate so we can get
some perimeter line in on the fire. I would now
like to invite up the Operations Section Chief for California

(14:03):
inter Agency Incident Management Team five, Don Frigulia.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Okay, good day, everybody, Like chief said, my name is
Don Figulia.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
I represent California Team five.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
I'm gonna give you an operational update on what's going
on on the fire.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
Right now as we speak. And I'm gonna talk a little.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Bit to the map behind me, just so you know,
and I'm gonna use a pointer since it's kind of
a small map. Okay, We're gonna start over here on
the right flank of the fire. This is Santa Anita Canyon.
We're currently actively engaged there with several hotshot crews along
the road and along the canyon bottom.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
And we're being successful throughout the day to day.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
We've had rotor ring the opportunity to fly rotor ring
and fixed wing aircraft. The winds are still pretty high
up there, so it's kind of a hit or miss deal.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
We get the aircraft up.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
And we get them flying and then it's just too
dangerous for the pilots and they have to come back down.
So it's a constantly evaluation, constant use of that aircraft,
and we're being successful when we're able to fly him.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
As we come along the north end of the fire.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
The Mount Wilson was mentioned recently in this press conference.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
I want everybody know the firehouse made it to Mount Wilson.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
We're actively engaged there in so far, no loss to
any values at risk at Mount Wilson, and we're feeling
good about what we have to do up there Tonight's
keep that site secure. As we come across the top
of this fire over here towards the jet Proportion laboratory,
we're making good progress here as well. Values at risk
obviously include the JPL among other things out there. So

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priority for me as an operations is this side of
the fire over here is a high priority. We're concerned
about the winds that are potentially coming to out flank
us in the coming day.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
So all hands on deck.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
We're going to work day and night, and we expect
to continue.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
You'll see some containment in the coming days.

Speaker 9 (15:46):
Thank you, Thank you from the operation second chief. So
next up, we're have the Arcadia Fire Chief, Chen Swim.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
Hello, My remarks will be brief. My name is Trent Swaen,
Fire Chief for the CEA of Arcadia. I just wanted
to express my deepest gratitude and our deepestcrite to our community,
to our public safety partners up here, many who are
standing up here just for their work on the East End.
I wanted to provide an update a website for our
Arcadia residents and businesses. You can visit www dot arcadiaca

(16:23):
dot gov, backslash twenty twenty five windstorm, or visit any
of our social media platforms.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Now we'll have Pasadena Fire Chief Chad Progustin.

Speaker 11 (16:39):
Chad Good afternoon, Chad Augustine, Pasadena Fire Chief, thank you
so much for being here today. I had the opportunity
to fly this fire this morning and the level of
devastation is staggering. We're extremely thankful for all of our
partner agencies here local, state and federal. We could not

(17:02):
get a handle on this fire without them, and for
my residents. Were committed to get back to full restoration
as long as that takes, and you'll have the continued.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
Support of everybody here in order to do that.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Thank you, and then cr Modred Fire Chief Brent Bartlett.

Speaker 12 (17:27):
Good afternoon, Brent Bartlett with the City of Sharah Madre
Fire Chief. Again, as my peers have already mentioned, thank
you goes out to our partners in the efforts to
managing and getting this under control as far as for
my community as well. Future information could be found on
the city's website Sharah Madre Cityscrmadre dot com. And our

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next move is going to be looking at recovery and
repopulation after we are getting a better assessment of the
damage within our area. So again, thank you for the opportunity.
I'd like to introduce congress Woman Judy Cheu for our
next speaker.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
I'm congress Member Judy Chuu and i just took a
tour of the destroyed areas led by Mayor Victory.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Okay, back live here. We taking a break doing commercials. No,
just keep going. Okay that you've heard a number of officials.
That was a county press conference. There's a city press
conference coming up at four o'clock on the various fires.
We've got a new one called the Kenneth fire in
the West Hills area near Calabasas. It's burned fifty acres.

(18:43):
There's a lot of smoke. Don't know which way that
fire is going, but it's all the television stations are
covering that one live right now. It's impossible to keep
track of all the fires and all the breaking news,
but we're going to do the best we can here.
There's a lot of information coming. We have Carl de

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Mayo coming on at three point thirty. Is that's still
going on, okay, Carl de Mayo, and he is going.
He's a Republican assemblyman down in San Diego, and he
is warning that because of all the crazy regulations that
California has from Sacramento and here in Los Angeles and

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the California Coastal Commission, it's going to be very difficult
for people in Pacific Palisades to rebuild their homes. You
have no idea how many layers of bureaucracy, how many
rolls of red tape, how many investigative reports have to

(19:48):
be done before you can get anything accomplished in California. Now,
I guarantee you're virtually everybody in Palisades.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I hate to scare you.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
You have no idea about the bureaue or see hell
you're about to enter unless they changed things. So Republican
Representative Carl Demayo is going to explain all that coming
up after three thirty. Here's a story from our friend
Eric Leonard at NBC four in Los Angeles. His story
is that the LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley, weeks before

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the Palisades fire, warned Karen Bass that cutting the budget
by almost eighteen million dollars would diminish its ability to
prepare and respond to a large scale emergency. They cut
eighteen million out of the fire budget that was approved
last year by Karen Bass, and then seven million had

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to be cut from its overtime budget that was part
of the eighteen million that was earmarked for training, fire
prevention and other things. And the Chief, Kristin Crowley, wrote
in a memo December fourth, twenty twenty four, the reduction
has severely limited the department's capacity to prepare for it
to train for and respond to large scale emergencies, including wildfires.

(21:12):
It was involving variable overtime hours called v hours, and
it was used to pay for the FAA mandated pilot
training and helicopter coordination staffing. For wildfire suppression. Why would
you do that? Why would you cut the money needed
to pay for FAA mandated pilot training and helicopter coordination,

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out of all the things to cut.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
In the budget, why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Boss said the budget cuts did not have an impact
on the response to the Palisades fire.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I am confident it did not.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
When asked about the memo, and again dismissed criticism that
just because she was in Africa, she wasn't part of
UH planning the operation. Although I was not physically here,
I was in contact with many of the individual standing
here throughout the entire time. There are persistent reports that

(22:09):
the fire was burning for quite some time before firefighters
showed up. And I want to be clear that any
discussion here is not a criticism of the firefighters. I
can't believe the incredibly difficult work that they do under
extreme inhuman conditions. But who was ever managing the situation?

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And I don't know if who was the chief Kristin
Crowley or what was going on, but they were not
in position. They did not respond quickly, They did not
have what they need to combat the fire. The early
minutes and early hours are is are the whole that's
the whole ballgame, and they're simply they simply weren't there,
and there wasn't enough of them.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't know what all this prepositioning prattle is about, but.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Everybody wants to know. Public wants to know, what the hell?
Why were the hydrants not working? Why did the water
tanks run out of water? Why wasn't there replacements? Why
were neighborhoods burning, schools burning on live television and there
was no there was no sign of firefighters or trucks
or equipment or anything.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
How could that possibly be?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
And now we wake up this morning and if you've
seen the TV news, of course that was this morning story.
It's now being eclipsed by all the other fires, like
this West Hills thing. But the Pacific Palisades devastation, they
are now saying, is in the thousands of homes, thousands
of homes. This memo that Kristin Crowley put out that

(23:42):
Eric Leonard got a hold of also highlighted other programs
that would suffer under the cuts, including the Disaster Response Section,
which funds the bulldozer teams that cut the fire brakes
and control lines around wildfires, and the critical Incident Planning
and Training section, which develops plans for major emergencies. Well,

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if you're cutting money for the planning and training for
major emergencies, that did not have an impact on the
most damaging wildfire in Los Angeles history, maybe the most
damaging wildfire in US history. Of course, officials are trying

(24:31):
to downplay the potential impact the cuts would have. How
can that be? See, they don't want to explain it.
When reporters have repeatedly asked a bass she goes, well,
you know, I'm focusing on saving lives and saving property. Well, no,
explain this. If it wasn't a problem, how is it
not a problem. I'man for some problem. Why were you

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spending money to begin with? One of her other answers
is that she was it didn't affect her to be
in Africa on the plane because she was always in contact. Well,
if that's true, why did you come home? If you
could manage things perfectly well in Ghana?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Why were you in such a rush to come home? Yesterday?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
You were telling us, Oh, I got out there as
fast as I could. I took a military play, and
I've why the rush. You're saying it didn't matter you're
saying you had everything under control. Always two answers to
every question, and often those two answers are in opposition
to one another. Clearly, with the numbers that I gave you,

(25:39):
that we got from Freddie Escobar, the head of one
of the firefighters union, United Firefighters LA Local one twelve,
we are way short of fire stations, way short of firefighters.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
We have way more.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
People living in this state, in this city compared to
sixty years ago. We have five times as many calls.
We have almost two dozen engines that need repair, another
dozen trucks. We do not have enough mechanics. We had
Freddy Escobar on at the start of the two o'clock hour.
If you missed it, get on the podcast later John

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Cobot Show on demand and listen to him go through
the comparisons of where we are now to where we
were nineteen sixty. Yes, we had more resources in nineteen
sixty than we do today. It's and you know what
this is, where'd the money go? Repeated budget cuts for

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years and years, money go. How does a homeless budget
get to one point three billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
How does that happen?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
They stole the money from the fire department. That's how
this is the priority of the wokeheads. Give it to homeless,
Give it to all the drug addicts and mental patients
who are shooting up and vomiting and crapping on themselves.
Give them more money. Take it away from the firemen.
And then people standing around the palisades going where are

(27:05):
the firefighters? Where are the fire engines. I'll go up
in the hill see if you can lure some of
the homeless people out. Give them a hose. Maybe they
can help. They got a lot of the money, or
they did get the buddy. Actually it was all the
sister crooked, fake phony criminal nonprofits that Bass and Garcetti
and the city council have been shoveling money to. All

(27:28):
the bad ideas, the bad policies, the corruption. Everything's coming
home to roost. This had to happen. We've been going
in this direction for over ten years. We've talked about
it a thousand times. Eventually it bites you, and unfortunately
it bit everybody who lives.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
In Pacific palisades.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
They became the victims of ten years of horrific policies,
horrific spending, all kinds of nonsense.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
We come back Carl Demyo.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
He's the Republican Assemblyman from the San Diego area, warning
you about the future. If you want to rebuild your
home and the Palisades and elsewhere, you have no idea
the layers and layers of bureaucracy, all the crazy regulations
that the city, the county, the state, the California Coastal

(28:17):
Commission has installed while you've been living your life quietly,
the consequences of not paying attention.

Speaker 13 (28:25):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
We are continuing our fire coverage. It's been going on
for days and days, and just when you think that
maybe today was going to be a lighter day, things
are settling down a bit because the winds were lighter.
Now comes mandatory evacuations near West Hills and Calabasas. There's
another brush fire all over the television long fire line.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Lots of smoke in.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
The area, and we will give you all the late
just on that as soon as we know more. And
all the other fires are still burning. There's nothing that's
under control among the major fires. Nothing's been contained in
the Alta data Eaton fire or the Pacific Palisades fire.
Let's go to Carl Demayo. He's the Republican assemblyman down

(29:21):
in the San Diego area, and he's here to give
you a warning about the future. If your house was
demolished or greatly damaged and you want to rebuild, you
have no idea what you're in for.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Carl, how are you.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well.

Speaker 14 (29:38):
I'm concerned, very concerned about everything that's going on. And
while it's a nightmare right now to see the fires,
I'm also concerned about the nightmare that comes after for
fire victims as they try to put their lives back together,
try to rebuild. Having represented a portion of San Diego's

(30:00):
city on the city Council as they struggle to rebuild
from two devastating fires, the Witch Fire and the Creek Fire.
I can tell you right now that California regulations, local
building codes, state regulations can make it in just prohibially expensive.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
A nightmare is.

Speaker 14 (30:23):
Not an overstatement for people trying to rebuild, and many
people are never able to rebuild because of the costs
and the regulatory burdens.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And from what I understand, the bureaucracy, the red tape
can tie you up for years and it's extremely frustrating,
especially when you're in a situation like this, when you
need a house today and you're not going to be
looking at moving into a house for several years, and
it's going to be massive aggravation along the way exactly.

Speaker 14 (30:55):
And you know, the Democrats have made California the worst
state to do anything, particularly building a home. And they say, well,
you know, we'll exempt people building rebuilding from a fire
disaster from some of the requirements like SIQUA and some
of the reviews that California Environmental Quality, the California Coastal

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Commission rules. But that's actually not true because if you
make even one modification from your existing home, then it
triggers all sorts of new regulations. And by the way,
you're not exempt from all the new modern building codes
that kick in, which are also more expensive and take
conveniences away. Finally, for those homes that were in the

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Pacific Palisades area, for example, they have an additional burden
because they are in the California Coastal Zone. So not
only do they have to go through traditional state reviews,
traditional local reviews, and permitting and building processes, they now
also have to go to these wing nuts on the
California Coast Commission who are anti housing, anti development, and

(32:05):
we've seen some of the rebuilding projects from fires in
the California Coastal Zone take fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years to complete,
so that it's not this is not going to be
easy for those folks in the Palifades community.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Stop you saying, you tad you fifteen years, They wouldn't
be able to move until twenty forty.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Yes, yes, what is it?

Speaker 1 (32:31):
What is it they're looking for?

Speaker 14 (32:34):
There was one house that was literally in twenty twenty
three just approved that burned down in the nineteen nineties,
in the nineteen nineties, nineteen ninety three, it burned down. Now,
it did take the owners of that home several years
before they put in their application, but from the point
that they put in their application from a nineteen ninety
three fire to when it was approved in twenty twenty three,

(32:56):
it was sixteen years total for them.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
What did they want to do? What did they commission
object to? You know, the.

Speaker 14 (33:04):
Commission objects to almost anything. I mean, these people are
not only environmental extremists, but they give Karen a whole
new level of meaning when it comes to trying to
meddle in people's business. And remember, these are fire victims.
This is not something they wanted to do. They didn't say, oh,
I'm going to tear down my house and build a

(33:25):
new one. They are victims of something beyond their control.
And it is outrageous that California politicians, who I believe
helped contribute to the to the significance and the extent
of this crisis. I'm not blaming them for the weather.
I am blaming them for their lack of preparedness and
their mishandling of a number of issues, including fire, defensive

(33:47):
space because of regulations including utility and water for hygrance.
All those issues are legitimate. Even though people are saying no,
it's not real, it is actually documented that they were
not done. They were not managed properly. But after all
those problems, to add another layer of complexity and incompetence,

(34:09):
it's just too much. So I'm calling on the legislature,
like Bill A. Sale has done, to go into special session,
emergency session and pass a law right now upfront stipulating
that we are going to streamline wave, reduce burdens in
order to get people back into their homes as quickly
as possible. And we're not hearing any politicians wanting to

(34:30):
do that because they love it after the public attention
dies down. They love holding these people hostage and forcing
them to pay a bunch of fees to the government.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Is it to get the ransom money? Is that the
whole point of this.

Speaker 14 (34:44):
Oh, it's about money. It's about control. They don't think
that people should be able to build in certain areas,
or they shouldn't be able to build what they want
to build. It's about control and money at the end
of the day. And so again we need to show
upfront to these victims that we have their back, that
we're going to make it as quick and cost efficient

(35:06):
as possible. And the only way to do that is
we have to start with the state of California. It's
not just a local issue. State rules are absolutely the
biggest part of the problem. And remember state building codes
that have been updated year after year. Those are then
cascaded down to the building permit department in every city.
So if you want to make it easier to get

(35:26):
through the permitting process locally, it doesn't just take local reform.
You have to have state reform. That's why I'm calling
for this legislation to be enacted immediately on an emergency basis.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
People are angrier than I've seen them in a long time.
People who normally vote for these Democratic politicians. What's going
on in the Palisades has really opened a lot of eyes,
and they're furious. They're furious with the response, They're furious
with Newsome, with Bass. Is there a moment here where
the Democratic politicians are going to finally feel the heat,

(36:00):
eat the pressure and seriously consider your proposal.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I would hope, But.

Speaker 14 (36:06):
These people didn't even want to give us Prop thirty six,
even though it was wildly popular. It passed with sixty
eight percent of the vote. It passed in every county,
including San Francisco. You know that you've got a good
idea if even the voters of San Francisco agree with you.
And so, at the end of the day, these politicians
aren't going to give the public that which they want,

(36:29):
that which they desire. We have to seize it from them.
And so again I'm calling on the legislature to act.
I'm calling on Newsom to act. But my hope is
that the well founded and justified public anger and outcry
that you're hearing right now in reaction to a whole
litany of failures on these fires. My hope is that
that is channeled directly at Governor Newsom, the LA Mayor

(36:53):
Karen Bass, every single liberal Democrat politician who has created
the environ where literally we have a mismanaged city and
mismanaged state three hundred and sixty five days a year,
making it harder for us to deal with real emergencies
like this. We need to hold them all accountable, hold
their feet to the fire, if you will, if we're

(37:15):
going to get any results.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
All right, Carl.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know, we always talked about how this can't go
on forever. All the years and years of incompetence and
bad policies, bad decisions, woke politics. It's finally crumbling all
over the place in so many ways, and this fire
just encapsulates much of it.

Speaker 14 (37:35):
It does, it does. Indeed, let's pray that things improve
quickly and pull together and help every one of our
neighbors out get through this tough time.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
All right, Carl, the myle state representative down in the
San Diego area, Thanks for coming on again. We'll talk
with you again soon, much, all right, if we come back,
just in case you missed it, we got to play
the confrontation between a woman. Rachel Darvish is her name.
She lives in the Palisades. Her home survived, but her

(38:07):
daughter's school burned to the ground, and she ran up
to Gavin Newsom as he was standing outside. Listen to
him squirm trying to get out of the conversation, and
listen to how persistent she is. This is absolutely the
audio and video of the day, and this is what
everybody ought to be doing. Otherwise, as Carl pointed out,

(38:29):
you are going to be in regulatory hell for maybe
the next fifteen years of your life if you lost
your house.

Speaker 13 (38:37):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
There are Woodland Hills evacuation orders from Van Oen south
to Burbank Boulevard, County Line Road east to Valley Circle.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Fire in West Hills. They're calling it the Kenneth Fire,
which is a terrible name and doesn't tell you anything.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You need to know. You need to know where fires are.

Speaker 14 (39:03):
Where.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
They named it after a vagrant who started it. The
Kenneth Fire. Unbelievable attention. People in government speak English to
the rest of us speak. Clearly, be definitive in the
location of the fire. Don't name it after a guy.
Name it after the region where the fire started, a

(39:24):
recognizable name, like the name of the town. All right, now,
this is my favorite video and audio of the day.
This is what should be going on all day, every day,
all over Los Angeles to deal with these clowns. Gavin
Newsom standing next to his suv in Pacific Palisades on

(39:46):
a burned out block when a local woman runs up
to him and wants an answer about anything.

Speaker 13 (39:54):
Play the clip, Governor, you got a second.

Speaker 10 (39:58):
Commoner, Gomor, I live here.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Governor, that was my daughter's school. Governor, please tell me
what you're going to do.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
But I'm not going to hurt on my promise.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
answer the question of what we can do.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
For you and your daughter.

Speaker 14 (40:13):
Can I hear it?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Can I hear your call? Because I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I'm sorry, can I There's literally I've tried five times.
That's why I'm walking around to make them. The President
not taking your call.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Because it's not going through.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Why I have to get sell service. Let's get it
let's get it.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I want to be here when you call the President.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
I'm doing that right now, and to immediately get reimbursements,
individual assistance.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
And to help you.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I get this looking for I'm so sorry, especially for
your daughter.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I have the four.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Kids, everyone who went to school there.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
They lost their homes.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
They lost two homes because they were living in one
and building another.

Speaker 9 (40:51):
Kether Please tell me, tell me what are you going
to do with the president.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Right now, we're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Why is there in the hydrant scout? It's all literally?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Is it going to be different next time?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
It has to be?

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Has to be of course, what are you going to
do to fill the hydrants?

Speaker 8 (41:08):
I would fill them up personally.

Speaker 13 (41:10):
You know that I would fill off the hydrants myself.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
But would you do that?

Speaker 4 (41:16):
I would do whatever I can, but do not.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
I see the Do you know there's water dripping over there?

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Governor there's water coming out there?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
You can use it.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I'm going to make the call to address everything I
can right now, including making sure people to make sure
you can can I have an opportunity to at least
tell people you're doing what you're saying, you're doing cold.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Somebody have a contact?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Can I have your contact right now?

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It turns out that's Rachel dardish Uh, a lawyer who
lives in the Palisades, lived there all her life, and
she had to flee her home. The home survived, daughter
school did not survive, and she was talking to Sky
News correspondent Martha Kellner when she saw Newsome uh in
the street and rushed up to his vehicle. And if
you notice, mister liar, Newsom claimed at first that he

(42:05):
was literally talking to Joe Biden right now literally means
actually for real fact reality right. And then when she
kept pushing saying I don't believe you, I don't believe you,
let me talk to him, he said, well, I'm trying
to call him. Oh okay, So you weren't literally talking
to him. You were trying to call him, and he's

(42:27):
trying to get a cell signal. But I guess all
the whole system got burned out and he changed his tune.
I think he wasn't talking to the president. He wanted
to use that as the ultimate Hey, go away, I'm
not speaking to you, right, figuring she would back down
if he invoked the president's name, because most people would right, Oh,

(42:49):
well please, I'm terribly sorry.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I had no idea you're talking to the president. It's like,
stop it. I saw Biden today on.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
They had a life on him when he was talking
about the aid coming in California. Kamala Harris was doing
the talking. He was sitting next to her. I swear
to God, look at the video. He fell asleep, eyes closed,
mouth open a little bit, head nodding forward. He was asleep,
and then he suddenly came to and my phone just

(43:20):
went off.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Now White, tell me a meteor is now coming.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Emergency alert evacuation morning has been issued in your area.
O great, remain vigilant of any threats, be ready to evacuate.
Is this the fire, the West Hills fire.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I'll be a West Hills fire.

Speaker 8 (43:38):
You.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
We're in the valley. So we both got it. Okay,
I'm getting out of here.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (43:43):
But I think there's a reason why we haven't seen
Joe Biden at any one of these meetings over the
last four years, because I think this is what happens
every meeting. Yeah, you know, I used to see old
meetings like George Bush and Obama. You see him at
the table all the time, Reagan, Barter and even you know,
but you never saw any of of Biden at those
meetings because he does not off.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, and I think it was past his four o'clock
cutoff time too.

Speaker 13 (44:09):
But let me ask you something. There's twenty guys in there.
You know, they're all talking gibberish. They're all, you know,
talking around the point. They can get to the point
in five seconds and they all talk around. They all
thank each other. Wouldn't you fall asleep too? Seriously, we're
gonna talk about this fire. There's new one that's come
up in the valley. We will get to that. Plus

(44:31):
we have a press conference at the top of the
hour with not my mayor. I don't live in LA.
You do, your mayor, Aaron, that's your mayor. You live
in La.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yes, shockingly, I didn't vote for her. I'm not responsible.
Nobody on my share, nobody on our show lives in LA.
Nobody that's good idea, not a single verson.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
All Right, outskirts, outskirts. We're supposed to evacuate, aren't we.

Speaker 13 (44:56):
I don't know, I guess so, Yeah, but you are
you're a vacuate.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I'm evacuating at seven. I'm one minute from being out
of the building. Michael Krozer is the news. Conway's Next
and the Krozer is live in the KFI twenty four
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