December 11, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Hour 2 (12/11) - Roger Bailey, part of a team of attorneys representing Palisades residents, joins the show. Royal Oakes from ABC News joins the show. Also, the New York Post writes about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (AOC) spending of $50,000 on hotels and meals in Puerto Rico.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're going to talk about with Roger Bailey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Roger Bailey is one of a team of attorneys representing
thousands of Palisades residents who got burned out in the fire,
and they're starting to do depositions state Park Reps. They
have texts between State Park's personnel which indicates that the
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original fire on January first, and then the Palisades fire
on the seventh both were in what is called well.
The January first fire created a fire periermitter and in
that fire perimeter was an avoidance area where they did
not want the plant life disrupted.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So when the La Fire Department went in.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
With bulldozers to build some kind of fire line for
the first fire, that's when they got chased out by
the State Park Reps. And so the second fire started
in the middle of the avoidance area and this is
actually in the text. Let's get Roger Bailey on Roger.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'm doing well, John, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Every time you come on, I want to say, I
just don't believe this, but tell us you're now doing depositions.
Are these texts part of the document drop for the depositions?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Actually, I'm actually on the way back from a deposition
right now. We've got several of them scheduled over the
next several days. And the documents that we're getting for
the depositions include the text messages that you see and
the area of avoidance map that I sent over. You
may remember last time I was on, the state didn't
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give us those maps, right, we knew where the Palisades
fire started, and we said, I wonder if the reason
they didn't give us those maps is because the Palisades
fire started in one of these areas that's off limits
to firefighters. And lo and behold, when we got the
map showing where the firefighters were not allowed to go,
that's right where the Palisades fire started.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ray Lopez, my producer, just handed me.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
A couple of the text Can I read them to
the audience, because I have not read these out loud.
I just got there and this is the night of
the first fire, January first, two, three am. And it says, Hi, Christy,
are you at the fire? And Christi writes back, I
will be. I'm getting ready now. There is federal endangered
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strake along timescal fire road. Would be nice to avoid
cutting it if possible. Do you have avoidance maps? I
have a couple of RIA ds on standby. I wait
to deploy them until you get unseen and assess the situation.
Definitely want to send them down if heavy equipment arrives.
And Christie rights back, well, yeah, Christy Wright's back, Okay,
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I'll let you know. So I guess she was the
state fire state parks representative that we know started getting
in the way of the LA Fire Department, and she
was being told to look at the avoidance map because
you've got this astragallus plant that has to be protected.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That plan is also known as the milk vetch. That's it, Yeah,
the milk vetch. So that maybe the name you know
more than the astra gallas, but it's the milk vetch.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's yeah. That was identified by in the LA time stories.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Early on the milk basically right, Yes, that's right, got it,
This is all true.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, So so these avoidance areas are designated by the
state park to protect, among other things, plant species, and
they make these maps available to the firefighters, and they
also have these r eads are called resource advisors, and
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they go up there and they interact with the firefighters
to say, well, here, here's the map, here's where you
can't go. Can't just have the equipment over here. Their
own operations manual says that, so everything that we had
been hearing is now being confirmed with these documents.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So the fire department couldn't use the bulldozers to create
a fire.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Break right there. The state's policy. Now remember once this
determined to be the Lockman fire, the January one fire.
Once that was determined to be burning on state land,
the LAFT calls for a state park repticon and that's
where you see you know, Christie sayings he's on. And
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when they get there, their their job is to interact
with the firefighters. And then these raa ds come in
and make sure that these protected plants aren't disturbed as
a result of a firefight or the mop up. And
so you know you've got And by the way, the
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state park reps also saw smoldering, the smoke coming from
the hills and said, oh, okay, well the smoke coming
from the hills. Should we do anything about it. They
didn't do anything about it, so their land. And that's
after the fire is declared contained. Smoke's coming out of
the ground, and nobody closes the park. Nobody's up there
to see how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This just can't be.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And this is in the middle of the National Weather
Service issuing all these extreme fire warnings and extreme wind warnings.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
We were told days before the Palisades fire that these
heavy winds were coming. And if you've got smoke coming
out of the ground in a recent burn scar, that
would be your first clue that there may be a
risk of rekindling. So you'd want to be up there
making sure that didn't happen, or having crews on standby
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right there in case it happened. Well, we know it
did happen. Atf confirmed the Palisades fire was a rekindling
of embers smoldering in the ground after the Lockman fire,
So we know it happened. And now we know that
the state had areas that it wouldn't allow the firefighters
to go with their heavy equipment to protect this milk
fetch plant. And that's exactly where the Palistaates fire starts.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What because I've talked with a number of people about this,
and they always say, well, why was the milk vetch
plant so important?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What do you know why they.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Were so bent on protecting this no matter how dangerous
the conditions were.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I didn't know what a milk vetch was until this case,
but I've looked into it and it's an endangered plant species.
But from what I can tell, interestingly, it proliferates after wildfires.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
God, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't know. Look, I'll say I'm all for you know,
let's protect the environment, but you've got to balance in
the public safety. You've got houses right next to this
bird scar. I mean, there's neighborhoods, hundreds and thousands of people,
and why you wouldn't consider their safety over the milk
vetch plant is beyond me.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Is it reasonable for people to think that at the
only fire department was allowed to do its mop up
and treat that hotspot and do the bulldozing and any
other treatment treatment protocole that they have that then the
pal stakes would not have burned the way it burned.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well that's one part of it. But here's the second part.
And I know we talked about this last time. The
State's own Operations Manual says, and I quote, where areas
of a park unit have burned, those areas shall remain
closed until appropriate State department staff have inspected the area
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and rectified any public safety issues. So even after the
LAF they leaves, assuming they had been able to do
everything they wanted to do, the State's owned Policy and
Operations Manual says, you need to be up there close
the park, and when you got smoke coming out of
the hills that your reps can see, you should be
up there and rectifying the public safety issues. So had
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followed their own Operations manual, palistads, fire wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Wow, Oh, that's just so crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's stunning, And I mean it's stunning. Every day when
you can't you think it can't get more bizarre, it
gets more bizarre.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And you're only at the beginning of these depositions, right.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
The first one was today, and we've got sixteen more
lined up, you know, up through Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Can you hang on for a moment, You bet all right,
Roger Bailey, he's the one of the attorneys for the
thousands of Palisades homeowners who got burned out in the fire.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And yeah, you're hearing this right.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In order to save the milkvetch plant, State Parks Department,
said representatives the night of the first fire, it was
still burning, to make sure that the milkvetch plant, which
is endangered, wasn't destroyed, and that's why the Alley Fire
Department was prevented from doing the cleanup the next day.
The MAPA and bulldoze to create a fire break and
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to try to tamp down the smoldering and the smoking
and the hot rocks and the hot tree stumps and
the whole bit. And the state was supposed to close
that park area and if they saw any action coming
from this fire, they were supposed to take care of
it too with CalFire.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And then this doesn't happen. Oh my god, this is
so bad. This is so bad.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
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because Judge is releasing Kilmar Abrego Garcia, that famed legal
alien who shipped El Salvador. He's getting out of detention.
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We'll tell you all about that coming up right now,
more with Roger Bailey, the attorney, along with others representing
thousands of Palaces residents. And the big bombshell today is
they're starting depositions of California State Parks employees. There are
texts they've gotten a hold of, and the night of
the first fly fire on January first, they were already
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sending down a State Parks rep to make sure that
the milk vetch plant wasn't destroyed by LA Fire Department
or anybody else. And that's why they didn't do a
fire break. That's why they didn't tamp down the hot
spot with the smoldering and the hot rocks, and that's
where the fire then reignited, rekindled and became the Palisades
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fire Roger, what else are you looking for as you
go through these depositions. I think you've got the milk
Vetch story here, or at least you know enough to
lead because I know as you get more testimony you're
going to go down other roads. What's one of your
targets here? What do you want to know on behalf
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of your clients?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Well, as I said before the break, the State's owned
Operations Manual has a section that requires It's not optional.
It requires closure of any area of the state park
that has burned, and it's to remain closed until state
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park representatives have been up and inspected the property. The
issues and what we haven't heard yet from any state
park representative is why was the park not closed? I've
confirmed it wasn't closed because you clearly had the Lockman
fire that burned to Panka State Park State park land.
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Why was the park not closed? Number one?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Number two?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Why did the state not send its own inspectors up
there to check for the hotspots that were reported and
were videotaped by members of the public. You know, members
of the public were walking through this area days after
the Lockman fire, videoing smoldering embers and smoke coming out
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of the ground, so we know there's something not right.
So why we want to know did the state not
get up there close the park as its own manual
requires and then dispatch inspectors their own inspectors that go
up and make sure we didn't have the risk of
rick kindling. We know we had a rick kindling and
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it could have been prevented.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They followed their own manual, right, and then send in firefighters,
state firefighters to take care of the hotspots.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, well right, send anybody in. But first to you,
as the landowner, state, you should go up there and
check your land and make sure that risk isn't there
and if you find it, because it was there, if
you were there, you would have seen it. Send somebody,
send cal fire, send LAFD, back, whatever, but get up
there and do something. But there was nobody up there
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for days before the Palisades fire reignited.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Hey, is this incompetence laziness?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, I can't imagine a good reason for not
doing what's a mandatory in their manual.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, we're asking the same questions and as yet there's
been no answer. The answer we were given by the
state initially was well, LAFD declared the Lockman fire fully contained. Okay, great,
what about your manual that says after the fire has burned,
you close the park and get up there and inspect it.
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No answer to that question, and I'm eager to hear it,
because I think had they followed their own manual and
eliminated this dangerous condition, the smoldering embers, there would be
no Palisates fire. You wouldn't have had twelve people die
and seven thousand structures burned down.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
And who makes that decision to close the park and
then send the inspectors in?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is that come from a right go ahead?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It comes from somebody within the state, and from what
we know as of today, somebody up in the management
above the rangers. But their manual, and the rangers are
all familiar with the operations manual and they're aware that
when and they said, yeah, we know that when you
have a fire, you close the park. But why this
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particular fire didn't prompt them to close the park and
go up there and inspect is anybody's guests? We have
no idea, but that's one of the you want Rogerie
there there and checked for dangerous conditions on its land.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, and newsome As first denied that the state had
any knowledge that this fire was going on the night
of January first.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, that's you know, he gave an interview back in
the springtime where he first said that the Palisades fire
ignited on federal land. Well, we know that's not true
because the audio recordings we obtained of those nine to
one one calls and then the radio communications between cowfire,
i mean, the State parkpatch in Laft confirming this fire
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Lackman's burning on state park property. So no federal property involvement.
And yes, we now know that the state was notified
twenty seven minutes after midnight on January one, right after
midnight New Year's Eve, the state got a call there's
a fire burning on your land, so they knew about it.
They dispatched several park rangers. At least one of those
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rangers and potentially others. When we depose them in the
next few days, we'll say we saw smoke coming out
of the ground. That's what we heard today. State park
ranger was up there and saw smoke coming out of
the ground after the fire department had left.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Roger, thank you for coming on with us, and as
you have information that you can give us. Please come
back on and we'll we'll keep adding to the story.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Absolutely happy to do it all right.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Roger Bailey, one of the attorneys representing the thousands of
Palisade residents. I cannot imagine the pain and anger and
frustration that these people are feeling. I mean, I've got
the text messages here from one employee. Hi, Christy, are
you at the fire? This is two three am Wednesday morning,
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January first, and Christie writes, I will be I'm getting
ready now, and I believe she showed up at about
four am. And this other employee said, there's federally endangered
ashtrogalls along the Temescal Fire Road. That's the milkftch plant.
Would be nice to avoid cutting it if possible. Do
you have avoidance maps? And there are photos of the
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avoidance maps and the original fire and its perimeter, and
the new fire started in the area that these these
California Park reps were told to avoid and to make
sure that Ala Fire Department avoided this area.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So no bulldozers, which.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Means they didn't stamp out the remnants of the fire,
the smoldering and the hot rocks and all that for
the milkvetch plant.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
For the milkvetch plant. We're gonna talk to Royal Oaks.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Coming up next about that illegal alien a Brego Garcia,
now being released again by a judge.
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we put segments up on YouTube. We put longer form
stuff there. All right, we're gonna talk to Royal Oaks
now from ABC News. Abrego Garcia full name is Kilmar
a Brego Garcia.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That sounds familiar.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Also known as Maryland Man, also known as one of
the uh thousands of people that the Trump administration has deported.
He was sent to that supermax prison in El Salvador
for a time, and he's made his way back. He's
been charged with human trafficking and jailed in Tennessee, then
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released on bail, then taken into custody.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
By ice.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And now we've had a judge release him and he's
going to be free again because his h his trial
isn't supposed to be until January on the human trafficking charges.
Let's get Royal oaksaw to see why he's been let out.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Uh, he could be a flight risk. You know, well,
how are you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Fine? John?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean we've deported I don't know how many tens
of thousands of illegal aliens and a lot of self
deport There's like two million that have gone out the door.
I think we've deported like hundreds of thousands. Why was
this guy keep turning up over and over again.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, it's very weird. It's because an Obama appointee federal
judge thinks that the Trump administration has not been doing
right by him. Mean, you get the timeline exactly right.
I mean, the guy was born in El Salvador, comes
to the US illegally for years, he's there in Maryland
doing some job six years ago. Government tries to deport him,
but an immigration judge says, oh, no asylum. You know,
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he'd be dangerous if he went back to El Salvador.
So then March of this year, Donald Trump's administration accidentally
deports him to El Sibador, who's administrative air, and so
Judge zenas the Obama point, he says, bring him back,
and so yeah, he comes back to the US. But
then the Trump administration says, we're still illegal. We wanted
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to port him to the only cut it will take
him Liberia in Africa. His lawyer says, oh no, it isn't.
The Liberia Costa Rica is just fine. So they fuss
over that. But but now the judge says he's out,
there's no valid basis to detain it.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, are they going to keep track of him until
his trial in January?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Otherwise he's going to disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You're absolutely right. And in that way, John, he's just
like you know, millions of other people in the US
who are here illegally, and we don't lock them up.
We all have jails to lock them up. Instead, we
give them a piece of paper saying please report to
your deportation hearing in the Yuma, California next you know,
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next February, and a lot of people don't show up.
So you're right, there's a possibility of a flight risk.
And he's got these human smuggling charges, as you say
in Tennessee. But apparently, you know, the system is not
locking him up saying flight risk or you know, violence risk.
Instead he's allowed to go free pending his hearings.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I've never seen a guy with more. He's had like
nine legal lives. No matter what the US does to
put him away.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Or get rid of them, he keeps bouncing back.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, that's right. For some reason, he has a lot
of paying power, and he is found a judge who
is pretty sympathetic to him, who is saying that Donald
Trump is not giving him due process. There's no valid
basis to detain him. So you know, there there was
this factual dispute. The Trump administration says, you know, we've
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checked around the globe, but the only country is willing
to take him is Liberia. And he said, no, no,
I'd like to go to Costa Rica and allegedly they
would be willing to take him. So that kind of
muddies the water.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
We would all choose, we would all choose Costa Rica
over Liberia.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
So I think, especially if he's a surfer.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so likely more appeals here.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh, absolutely, you know the Trump administration is free now
to appeal this trial court decision, they said, let this
guy out. They're free to go to the Court of Appeals,
and if Trump loses there, of course he may go
to the US Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court has
said that, you know, folks are entitled to do process,
but also on occasion, you know, you're entitled to hold
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on to people if there's reason to believe that they're
never going to show up. Now in this case, you know,
who know, I mean just that probably shown up at
a lot of court hearings. But maybe the Trump administration
doesn't have evidence that this particular guy is a flight risk.
Maybe he's just saying, you know, I'm staying here. I'm
going to fight the trudges in Tennessee. I just don't
want to be held by ice. But it's just another
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frustrating example of how tough it is to deport people,
you know, when they're claiming asylum. Every time they do,
you got to have a hearing. We don't want to
send somebody back and have been portrayed and killed by
the political opponents that they had in those countries. But
they have to prove that that's the situation. They fink right, and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They found evidence that he was driving a vehicle filled
with illegal aliens I forget somewhere near the border and
taking him to the East coast and like eight guys
he had stuffed in his vehicle.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And that's the nature of the charges.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Exactly right. And he could be looking at years behind
bars for doing that because it's not just being in
the country illegally, it's human smuggling. And as a result,
that raises the question, you know, why wouldn't the judge
consider him to be at flight risk because he obviously
doesn't want to be sent out of the United States,
but he also doesn't want to go to prison for
human smuggling. So it's like cap dancing and molasses. When
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you try to get rid of people who are here illegally,
but who are willing to go to court, lawyer up
and have all of the objections and the arguments for
why it would be unfair for them to be sent
out of the country.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Royl looks, thank you for coming on again.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You bet, thanks.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
John Royal looks ABC News Legal analyst coming up next segment, Well,
we got another congressional cruk. We got Alexandria Ocassio Cortes
Congress Somit in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You've all heard of her.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
New York Post has a story that she has spent
almost fifty thousand dollars on hotels and meals in Puerto Rico,
and apparently it's her campaign money. She's just like everybody else.
This is why they run for office. This is why
they want to stay in office. It's because they give
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They get to live a life that they never would
have lived if they had to earn money based on
their own intelligence and talents. But if you can fool voters,
then you've got a gold mine you can tap into.
So we'll we'll talk about her coming up, and then
at three o'clock, Oh god goodness, this is really a
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big deal too, and it's related to the fire. We're
going to have David Goldbluemon. David has a documentary called
Big Rock Burning, exploring what happened in Malibu in the
Big Rock community as they've been trying to rebuild. And
you know, we told you about the new revelations in
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the Palace, the Palistates fire, you know, bird a chunk
of Malibu as well, and these new res relevation revelations.
Now about these text messages, the State Parks reps were
basically saying, well, we can't have the LA Fire Department
cleaning up, mopping up the day after the fire because
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the milk vetch plant is going to be endangered by
the bulldozers.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Big day on the fire front.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
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Speaker 3 (26:51):
We are plagued by so many fakes and phonies and
frauds in public life.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's it's overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed. Today.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
We've had so many insane stories. I feel like, personally
I'm insane. Not that I'm going insane, I feel like
I'm insane. Talk more about that. Next hour, three o'clock,
right after Brigita's news, we're going to have the director
David Goldbloom. He has a documentary, Big Rock Burning, which
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I watched this week, and it's about how the fire
affected the Big Rock community in Malibu, right next door
to the Palisades, same fire. It's very powerful emotionally, Big
Rock Burning, And we're going to talk with David Goldbloom
coming up right after the news.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, we know about the.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
About the fake, fraudulent phoniness of Gavin Newsom. Here's another one,
Alexandria Ocassio Cortez. She is the favorite by far among
pressive because she's always going after rich people. She was
touring with Bernie Sanders all over the country, drawing crowds
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of tens of thousands of people, going after the oligarchy.
She wore a dress to the met remember the met
gala in New York City, and the dress was a
white one with what looked like red spray paint on
it graffiti that said tax the rich.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Okay, So that's her stick, that's her act.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Rich people are bad, wealthy or bad, taxes have to
be raised on them. Alexandri Cassia Cortes, like all politicians
have a have a political action committee and a political
campaign account and apparently you can spend money on almost
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anything when you have a campaign account. And the deal is,
obviously they get donations and then they have to provide
some kind of service for the donors, right, some kind
of vote, some kind of bill has to be pushed, right,
or something has to be blocked. You know, even if
you could work a few lines into an amendment in
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some massive bill that nobody reads, that's what she get
paid for, Okay, Basically, most politicians are prostitutes. That's their purpose.
So AOC takes in plenty of money down The New
York part says that she spent fifty thousand dollars on
hotels and meals in Puerto Rico third quarter of this year.
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She also rented out some venue in San Juan, and
she was caught dancing at an August Bad Buddy concert.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
The committee spent six.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Hundred and eighty dollars so she can stay at the
hotel Palatio.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
One night.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Fifteen hundred and seven dollars on August to twenty ninth,
nine thousand, four hundred and forty dollars on September twenty ninth.
By the way, while she was in Puerto Rico, she
was complaining on social media about gentrification. You know that
that poor people were being shoved out by wealthier people
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in some neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So she actually spent.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Almost twelve thousand dollars on hotels between two month period
between July and September and Puerto Rico. I guess she's
going down there constantly and she drops all the campaign money.
The Palatio Provincial Hotel is described as first class adults
only situated within a historic early nineteenth century building with
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transented hints of the grand colonial past. Ten thousand dollars
spent on meals and catering services on August twenty fifth
and September twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is according to federal filings.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
She was dancing at a Bad Bunny concert Oliver Hidago.
Wallabin told Fox News that she regularly travels to Puerto Rico,
AOC to support local causes and host events that require
staff and security. August twenty fifth, AOC paid thirty eight
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hundred dollars to Hotel El Convento. Total, her campaign paid
fifteen four hundred and eighty nine dollars for hotels in
Puerto Rico during the quarter July first to September thirtieth.
She spent thousands of dollars more on other boutique hotel
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stays on the US mainland, sixty six hundred dollars to
stay at a hotel in the Hotel Vermont in Burlington,
two thousand dollars at the Thompson Central Park Hotel in Manhattan,
three thousand dollars stay at the Arlow Williamsburg in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
She's from New York.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Look at the expensive hotel she's staying at the in
her own city. Sixty three hundred dollars spent on a
meal at an Italian restaurant called Ama, eleven thousand for
dining in DC, Vermont, Bronx and Bronx and Latham, New York.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
She is a complete fraud.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
They get in the business to enjoy the high life.
That's what it is to live a rich life. And
their stick is to complain about rich people. And so
many boobs in this country fall for it, So many
soft minded morons fall for this nonsense.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Look, if it's.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Legal, you want to builk your donors, this is the
war you want for passing whatever legislation they have. It's legal,
I guess I could you know? Why not do it?
But spare me the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders. He's
another one, another phony. He's a millionaire with three homes.
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Good Lord, we come back. David Goldbloom. Big Rock Burning
is the name of the movie, powerful documentary about people
in the Big Rock Malibu community who were burned out
in the fire and how they're trying to come back.
But it'll shake you up watching it make you mad too.
(33:34):
Between this and the other documentary watched last week. It's
so furious at all the idiots who you know, whether
it's the people who ran the fire department, it's Karen
Bass and the idiots on the city council. This was
completely avoidable, as pretty much was proven in the last hour,
right when we found out the text messages kept La
Fire Department firefighters from cleaning up the January first fire
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for the milkfitch plant, and then it rekindled, and then
the Palisades fire happened, and we'll talk next with David Goldbloom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're going to talk about with Roger Bailey.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Roger Bailey is one of a team of attorneys representing
thousands of Palisades residents who got burned out in the fire,
and they're starting to do depositions state Park Reps. They
have texts between State Park's personnel which indicates that the
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original fire on January first, and then the Palisades fire
on the seventh both were in what is called well.
The January first fire created a fire periermitter and in
that fire perimeter was an avoidance area where they did
not want the plant life disrupted.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So when the La Fire Department went in.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
With bulldozers to build some kind of fire line for
the first fire, that's when they got chased out by
the State Park Reps. And so the second fire started
in the middle of the avoidance area and this is
actually in the text. Let's get Roger Bailey on Roger.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I'm doing well, John, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Every time you come on, I want to say, I
just don't believe this, but tell us you're now doing depositions.
Are these texts part of the document drop for the depositions?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Actually, I'm actually on the way back from a deposition
right now. We've got several of them scheduled over the
next several days. And the documents that we're getting for
the depositions include the text messages that you see and
the area of avoidance map that I sent over. You
may remember last time I was on, the state didn't
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give us those maps, right, we knew where the Palisades
fire started, and we said, I wonder if the reason
they didn't give us those maps is because the Palisades
fire started in one of these areas that's off limits
to firefighters. And lo and behold, when we got the
map showing where the firefighters were not allowed to go,
that's right where the Palisades fire started.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ray Lopez, my producer, just handed me.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
A couple of the text Can I read them to
the audience, because I have not read these out loud.
I just got there and this is the night of
the first fire, January first, two, three am. And it says, Hi, Christy,
are you at the fire? And Christi writes back, I
will be. I'm getting ready now. There is federal endangered
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strake along timescal fire road. Would be nice to avoid
cutting it if possible. Do you have avoidance maps? I
have a couple of RIA ds on standby. I wait
to deploy them until you get unseen and assess the situation.
Definitely want to send them down if heavy equipment arrives.
And Christie rights back, well, yeah, Christy Wright's back, Okay,
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I'll let you know. So I guess she was the
state fire state parks representative that we know started getting
in the way of the LA Fire Department, and she
was being told to look at the avoidance map because
you've got this astragallus plant that has to be protected.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That plan is also known as the milk vetch. That's it, Yeah,
the milk vetch. So that maybe the name you know
more than the astra gallas, but it's the milk vetch.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's yeah. That was identified by in the LA time stories.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Early on the milk basically right, Yes, that's right, got it,
This is all true.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yes, So so these avoidance areas are designated by the
state park to protect, among other things, plant species, and
they make these maps available to the firefighters, and they
also have these r eads are called resource advisors, and
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they go up there and they interact with the firefighters
to say, well, here, here's the map, here's where you
can't go. Can't just have the equipment over here. Their
own operations manual says that, so everything that we had
been hearing is now being confirmed with these documents.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So the fire department couldn't use the bulldozers to create
a fire.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Break right there. The state's policy. Now remember once this
determined to be the Lockman fire, the January one fire.
Once that was determined to be burning on state land,
the LAFT calls for a state park repticon and that's
where you see you know, Christie sayings he's on. And
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when they get there, their their job is to interact
with the firefighters. And then these raa ds come in
and make sure that these protected plants aren't disturbed as
a result of a firefight or the mop up. And
so you know you've got And by the way, the
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state park reps also saw smoldering, the smoke coming from
the hills and said, oh, okay, well the smoke coming
from the hills. Should we do anything about it. They
didn't do anything about it, so their land. And that's
after the fire is declared contained. Smoke's coming out of
the ground, and nobody closes the park. Nobody's up there
to see how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This just can't be.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And this is in the middle of the National Weather
Service issuing all these extreme fire warnings and extreme wind warnings.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
We were told days before the Palisades fire that these
heavy winds were coming. And if you've got smoke coming
out of the ground in a recent burn scar, that
would be your first clue that there may be a
risk of rekindling. So you'd want to be up there
making sure that didn't happen, or having crews on standby
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right there in case it happened. Well, we know it
did happen. Atf confirmed the Palisades fire was a rekindling
of embers smoldering in the ground after the Lockman fire,
So we know it happened. And now we know that
the state had areas that it wouldn't allow the firefighters
to go with their heavy equipment to protect this milk
fetch plant. And that's exactly where the Palistaates fire starts.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What because I've talked with a number of people about this,
and they always say, well, why was the milk vetch
plant so important?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
What do you know why they.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Were so bent on protecting this no matter how dangerous
the conditions were.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I didn't know what a milk vetch was until this case,
but I've looked into it and it's an endangered plant species.
But from what I can tell, interestingly, it proliferates after wildfires.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
God, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't know. Look, I'll say I'm all for you know,
let's protect the environment, but you've got to balance in
the public safety. You've got houses right next to this
bird scar. I mean, there's neighborhoods, hundreds and thousands of people,
and why you wouldn't consider their safety over the milk
vetch plant is beyond me.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Is it reasonable for people to think that at the
only fire department was allowed to do its mop up
and treat that hotspot and do the bulldozing and any
other treatment treatment protocole that they have that then the
pal stakes would not have burned the way it burned.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well that's one part of it. But here's the second part.
And I know we talked about this last time. The
State's own Operations Manual says, and I quote, where areas
of a park unit have burned, those areas shall remain
closed until appropriate State department staff have inspected the area
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and rectified any public safety issues. So even after the
LAF they leaves, assuming they had been able to do
everything they wanted to do, the State's owned Policy and
Operations Manual says, you need to be up there close
the park, and when you got smoke coming out of
the hills that your reps can see, you should be
up there and rectifying the public safety issues. So had
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followed their own Operations manual, palistads, fire wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Wow, Oh, that's just so crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's stunning, And I mean it's stunning. Every day when
you can't you think it can't get more bizarre, it
gets more bizarre.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And you're only at the beginning of these depositions, right.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
The first one was today, and we've got sixteen more
lined up, you know, up through Christmas.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Can you hang on for a moment, You bet all right,
Roger Bailey, he's the one of the attorneys for the
thousands of Palisades homeowners who got burned out in the fire.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And yeah, you're hearing this right.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In order to save the milkvetch plant, State Parks Department,
said representatives the night of the first fire, it was
still burning, to make sure that the milkvetch plant, which
is endangered, wasn't destroyed, and that's why the Alley Fire
Department was prevented from doing the cleanup the next day.
The MAPA and bulldoze to create a fire break and
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to try to tamp down the smoldering and the smoking
and the hot rocks and the hot tree stumps and
the whole bit. And the state was supposed to close
that park area and if they saw any action coming
from this fire, they were supposed to take care of
it too with CalFire.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And then this doesn't happen. Oh my god, this is
so bad. This is so bad.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
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because Judge is releasing Kilmar Abrego Garcia, that famed legal
alien who shipped El Salvador. He's getting out of detention.
(10:52):
We'll tell you all about that coming up right now,
more with Roger Bailey, the attorney, along with others representing
thousands of Palaces residents. And the big bombshell today is
they're starting depositions of California State Parks employees. There are
texts they've gotten a hold of, and the night of
the first fly fire on January first, they were already
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sending down a State Parks rep to make sure that
the milk vetch plant wasn't destroyed by LA Fire Department
or anybody else. And that's why they didn't do a
fire break. That's why they didn't tamp down the hot
spot with the smoldering and the hot rocks, and that's
where the fire then reignited, rekindled and became the Palisades
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fire Roger, what else are you looking for as you
go through these depositions. I think you've got the milk
Vetch story here, or at least you know enough to
lead because I know as you get more testimony you're
going to go down other roads. What's one of your
targets here? What do you want to know on behalf
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of your clients?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Well, as I said before the break, the State's owned
Operations Manual has a section that requires It's not optional.
It requires closure of any area of the state park
that has burned, and it's to remain closed until state
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park representatives have been up and inspected the property. The
issues and what we haven't heard yet from any state
park representative is why was the park not closed? I've
confirmed it wasn't closed because you clearly had the Lockman
fire that burned to Panka State Park State park land.
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Why was the park not closed? Number one?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Number two?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Why did the state not send its own inspectors up
there to check for the hotspots that were reported and
were videotaped by members of the public. You know, members
of the public were walking through this area days after
the Lockman fire, videoing smoldering embers and smoke coming out
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of the ground, so we know there's something not right.
So why we want to know did the state not
get up there close the park as its own manual
requires and then dispatch inspectors their own inspectors that go
up and make sure we didn't have the risk of
rick kindling. We know we had a rick kindling and
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it could have been prevented.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They followed their own manual, right, and then send in firefighters,
state firefighters to take care of the hotspots.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, well right, send anybody in. But first to you,
as the landowner, state, you should go up there and
check your land and make sure that risk isn't there
and if you find it, because it was there, if
you were there, you would have seen it. Send somebody,
send cal fire, send LAFD, back, whatever, but get up
there and do something. But there was nobody up there
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for days before the Palisades fire reignited.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Hey, is this incompetence laziness?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I mean, I can't imagine a good reason for not
doing what's a mandatory in their manual.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, we're asking the same questions and as yet there's
been no answer. The answer we were given by the
state initially was well, LAFD declared the Lockman fire fully contained. Okay, great,
what about your manual that says after the fire has burned,
you close the park and get up there and inspect it.
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No answer to that question, and I'm eager to hear it,
because I think had they followed their own manual and
eliminated this dangerous condition, the smoldering embers, there would be
no Palisates fire. You wouldn't have had twelve people die
and seven thousand structures burned down.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
And who makes that decision to close the park and
then send the inspectors in?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is that come from a right go ahead?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It comes from somebody within the state, and from what
we know as of today, somebody up in the management
above the rangers. But their manual, and the rangers are
all familiar with the operations manual and they're aware that
when and they said, yeah, we know that when you
have a fire, you close the park. But why this
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particular fire didn't prompt them to close the park and
go up there and inspect is anybody's guests? We have
no idea, but that's one of the you want Rogerie
there there and checked for dangerous conditions on its land.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, and newsome As first denied that the state had
any knowledge that this fire was going on the night
of January first.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, that's you know, he gave an interview back in
the springtime where he first said that the Palisades fire
ignited on federal land. Well, we know that's not true
because the audio recordings we obtained of those nine to
one one calls and then the radio communications between cowfire,
i mean, the State parkpatch in Laft confirming this fire
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Lackman's burning on state park property. So no federal property involvement.
And yes, we now know that the state was notified
twenty seven minutes after midnight on January one, right after
midnight New Year's Eve, the state got a call there's
a fire burning on your land, so they knew about it.
They dispatched several park rangers. At least one of those
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rangers and potentially others. When we depose them in the
next few days, we'll say we saw smoke coming out
of the ground. That's what we heard today. State park
ranger was up there and saw smoke coming out of
the ground after the fire department had left.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Roger, thank you for coming on with us, and as
you have information that you can give us. Please come
back on and we'll we'll keep adding to the story.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Absolutely happy to do it all right.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Roger Bailey, one of the attorneys representing the thousands of
Palisade residents. I cannot imagine the pain and anger and
frustration that these people are feeling. I mean, I've got
the text messages here from one employee. Hi, Christy, are
you at the fire? This is two three am Wednesday morning,
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January first, and Christie writes, I will be I'm getting
ready now, and I believe she showed up at about
four am. And this other employee said, there's federally endangered
ashtrogalls along the Temescal Fire Road. That's the milkftch plant.
Would be nice to avoid cutting it if possible. Do
you have avoidance maps? And there are photos of the
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avoidance maps and the original fire and its perimeter, and
the new fire started in the area that these these
California Park reps were told to avoid and to make
sure that Ala Fire Department avoided this area.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So no bulldozers, which.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Means they didn't stamp out the remnants of the fire,
the smoldering and the hot rocks and all that for
the milkvetch plant.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
For the milkvetch plant. We're gonna talk to Royal Oaks.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Coming up next about that illegal alien a Brego Garcia,
now being released again by a judge.
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we put segments up on YouTube. We put longer form
stuff there. All right, we're gonna talk to Royal Oaks
now from ABC News. Abrego Garcia full name is Kilmar
a Brego Garcia.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That sounds familiar.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Also known as Maryland Man, also known as one of
the uh thousands of people that the Trump administration has deported.
He was sent to that supermax prison in El Salvador
for a time, and he's made his way back. He's
been charged with human trafficking and jailed in Tennessee, then
(19:22):
released on bail, then taken into custody.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
By ice.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And now we've had a judge release him and he's
going to be free again because his h his trial
isn't supposed to be until January on the human trafficking charges.
Let's get Royal oaksaw to see why he's been let out.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Uh, he could be a flight risk. You know, well,
how are you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Fine? John?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean we've deported I don't know how many tens
of thousands of illegal aliens and a lot of self
deport There's like two million that have gone out the door.
I think we've deported like hundreds of thousands. Why was
this guy keep turning up over and over again.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, it's very weird. It's because an Obama appointee federal
judge thinks that the Trump administration has not been doing
right by him. Mean, you get the timeline exactly right.
I mean, the guy was born in El Salvador, comes
to the US illegally for years, he's there in Maryland
doing some job six years ago. Government tries to deport him,
but an immigration judge says, oh, no asylum. You know,
(20:29):
he'd be dangerous if he went back to El Salvador.
So then March of this year, Donald Trump's administration accidentally
deports him to El Sibador, who's administrative air, and so
Judge zenas the Obama point, he says, bring him back,
and so yeah, he comes back to the US. But
then the Trump administration says, we're still illegal. We wanted
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to port him to the only cut it will take
him Liberia in Africa. His lawyer says, oh no, it isn't.
The Liberia Costa Rica is just fine. So they fuss
over that. But but now the judge says he's out,
there's no valid basis to detain it.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, are they going to keep track of him until
his trial in January?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Otherwise he's going to disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You're absolutely right. And in that way, John, he's just
like you know, millions of other people in the US
who are here illegally, and we don't lock them up.
We all have jails to lock them up. Instead, we
give them a piece of paper saying please report to
your deportation hearing in the Yuma, California next you know,
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next February, and a lot of people don't show up.
So you're right, there's a possibility of a flight risk.
And he's got these human smuggling charges, as you say
in Tennessee. But apparently, you know, the system is not
locking him up saying flight risk or you know, violence risk.
Instead he's allowed to go free pending his hearings.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I've never seen a guy with more. He's had like
nine legal lives. No matter what the US does to
put him away.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Or get rid of them, he keeps bouncing back.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, that's right. For some reason, he has a lot
of paying power, and he is found a judge who
is pretty sympathetic to him, who is saying that Donald
Trump is not giving him due process. There's no valid
basis to detain him. So you know, there there was
this factual dispute. The Trump administration says, you know, we've
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checked around the globe, but the only country is willing
to take him is Liberia. And he said, no, no,
I'd like to go to Costa Rica and allegedly they
would be willing to take him. So that kind of
muddies the water.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
We would all choose, we would all choose Costa Rica
over Liberia.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
So I think, especially if he's a surfer.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so likely more appeals here.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh, absolutely, you know the Trump administration is free now
to appeal this trial court decision, they said, let this
guy out. They're free to go to the Court of Appeals,
and if Trump loses there, of course he may go
to the US Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court has
said that, you know, folks are entitled to do process,
but also on occasion, you know, you're entitled to hold
(23:09):
on to people if there's reason to believe that they're
never going to show up. Now in this case, you know,
who know, I mean just that probably shown up at
a lot of court hearings. But maybe the Trump administration
doesn't have evidence that this particular guy is a flight risk.
Maybe he's just saying, you know, I'm staying here. I'm
going to fight the trudges in Tennessee. I just don't
want to be held by ice. But it's just another
(23:31):
frustrating example of how tough it is to deport people,
you know, when they're claiming asylum. Every time they do,
you got to have a hearing. We don't want to
send somebody back and have been portrayed and killed by
the political opponents that they had in those countries. But
they have to prove that that's the situation. They fink right, and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They found evidence that he was driving a vehicle filled
with illegal aliens I forget somewhere near the border and
taking him to the East coast and like eight guys
he had stuffed in his vehicle.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And that's the nature of the charges.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Exactly right. And he could be looking at years behind
bars for doing that because it's not just being in
the country illegally, it's human smuggling. And as a result,
that raises the question, you know, why wouldn't the judge
consider him to be at flight risk because he obviously
doesn't want to be sent out of the United States,
but he also doesn't want to go to prison for
human smuggling. So it's like cap dancing and molasses. When
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you try to get rid of people who are here illegally,
but who are willing to go to court, lawyer up
and have all of the objections and the arguments for
why it would be unfair for them to be sent
out of the country.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Royl looks, thank you for coming on again.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You bet, thanks.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
John Royal looks ABC News Legal analyst coming up next segment, Well,
we got another congressional cruk. We got Alexandria Ocassio Cortes
Congress Somit in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You've all heard of her.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
New York Post has a story that she has spent
almost fifty thousand dollars on hotels and meals in Puerto Rico,
and apparently it's her campaign money. She's just like everybody else.
This is why they run for office. This is why
they want to stay in office. It's because they give
(25:32):
They get to live a life that they never would
have lived if they had to earn money based on
their own intelligence and talents. But if you can fool voters,
then you've got a gold mine you can tap into.
So we'll we'll talk about her coming up, and then
at three o'clock, Oh god goodness, this is really a
(25:53):
big deal too, and it's related to the fire. We're
going to have David Goldbluemon. David has a documentary called
Big Rock Burning, exploring what happened in Malibu in the
Big Rock community as they've been trying to rebuild. And
you know, we told you about the new revelations in
(26:15):
the Palace, the Palistates fire, you know, bird a chunk
of Malibu as well, and these new res relevation revelations.
Now about these text messages, the State Parks reps were
basically saying, well, we can't have the LA Fire Department
cleaning up, mopping up the day after the fire because
(26:38):
the milk vetch plant is going to be endangered by
the bulldozers.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Big day on the fire front.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We are plagued by so many fakes and phonies and
frauds in public life.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's it's overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed. Today.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
We've had so many insane stories. I feel like, personally
I'm insane. Not that I'm going insane, I feel like
I'm insane. Talk more about that. Next hour, three o'clock,
right after Brigita's news, we're going to have the director
David Goldbloom. He has a documentary, Big Rock Burning, which
(27:22):
I watched this week, and it's about how the fire
affected the Big Rock community in Malibu, right next door
to the Palisades, same fire. It's very powerful emotionally, Big
Rock Burning, And we're going to talk with David Goldbloom
coming up right after the news.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, we know about the.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
About the fake, fraudulent phoniness of Gavin Newsom. Here's another one,
Alexandria Ocassio Cortez. She is the favorite by far among
pressive because she's always going after rich people. She was
touring with Bernie Sanders all over the country, drawing crowds
(28:09):
of tens of thousands of people, going after the oligarchy.
She wore a dress to the met remember the met
gala in New York City, and the dress was a
white one with what looked like red spray paint on
it graffiti that said tax the rich.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Okay, So that's her stick, that's her act.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Rich people are bad, wealthy or bad, taxes have to
be raised on them. Alexandri Cassia Cortes, like all politicians
have a have a political action committee and a political
campaign account and apparently you can spend money on almost
(28:55):
anything when you have a campaign account. And the deal is,
obviously they get donations and then they have to provide
some kind of service for the donors, right, some kind
of vote, some kind of bill has to be pushed, right,
or something has to be blocked. You know, even if
you could work a few lines into an amendment in
(29:16):
some massive bill that nobody reads, that's what she get
paid for, Okay, Basically, most politicians are prostitutes. That's their purpose.
So AOC takes in plenty of money down The New
York part says that she spent fifty thousand dollars on
hotels and meals in Puerto Rico third quarter of this year.
(29:41):
She also rented out some venue in San Juan, and
she was caught dancing at an August Bad Buddy concert.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
The committee spent six.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Hundred and eighty dollars so she can stay at the
hotel Palatio.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
One night.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Fifteen hundred and seven dollars on August to twenty ninth,
nine thousand, four hundred and forty dollars on September twenty ninth.
By the way, while she was in Puerto Rico, she
was complaining on social media about gentrification. You know that
that poor people were being shoved out by wealthier people
(30:23):
in some neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So she actually spent.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Almost twelve thousand dollars on hotels between two month period
between July and September and Puerto Rico. I guess she's
going down there constantly and she drops all the campaign money.
The Palatio Provincial Hotel is described as first class adults
only situated within a historic early nineteenth century building with
(30:53):
transented hints of the grand colonial past. Ten thousand dollars
spent on meals and catering services on August twenty fifth
and September twenty ninth.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is according to federal filings.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
She was dancing at a Bad Bunny concert Oliver Hidago.
Wallabin told Fox News that she regularly travels to Puerto Rico,
AOC to support local causes and host events that require
staff and security. August twenty fifth, AOC paid thirty eight
(31:30):
hundred dollars to Hotel El Convento. Total, her campaign paid
fifteen four hundred and eighty nine dollars for hotels in
Puerto Rico during the quarter July first to September thirtieth.
She spent thousands of dollars more on other boutique hotel
(31:52):
stays on the US mainland, sixty six hundred dollars to
stay at a hotel in the Hotel Vermont in Burlington,
two thousand dollars at the Thompson Central Park Hotel in Manhattan,
three thousand dollars stay at the Arlow Williamsburg in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
She's from New York.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Look at the expensive hotel she's staying at the in
her own city. Sixty three hundred dollars spent on a
meal at an Italian restaurant called Ama, eleven thousand for
dining in DC, Vermont, Bronx and Bronx and Latham, New York.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
She is a complete fraud.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
They get in the business to enjoy the high life.
That's what it is to live a rich life. And
their stick is to complain about rich people. And so
many boobs in this country fall for it, So many
soft minded morons fall for this nonsense.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Look, if it's.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Legal, you want to builk your donors, this is the
war you want for passing whatever legislation they have. It's legal,
I guess I could you know? Why not do it?
But spare me the oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders. He's
another one, another phony. He's a millionaire with three homes.
(33:13):
Good Lord, we come back. David Goldbloom. Big Rock Burning
is the name of the movie, powerful documentary about people
in the Big Rock Malibu community who were burned out
in the fire and how they're trying to come back.
But it'll shake you up watching it make you mad too.
(33:34):
Between this and the other documentary watched last week. It's
so furious at all the idiots who you know, whether
it's the people who ran the fire department, it's Karen
Bass and the idiots on the city council. This was
completely avoidable, as pretty much was proven in the last hour,
right when we found out the text messages kept La
Fire Department firefighters from cleaning up the January first fire
(33:58):
for the milkfitch plant, and then it rekindled, and then
the Palisades fire happened, and we'll talk next with David Goldbloom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You
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