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May 13, 2025 33 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (05/13) - Debra Mark's special "Suicide: Stigma/Shame" won a Regional Edward R. Murrow Award! Michael Shellenberger went through Gov. Newsom's homeless record. More on the Newark Airport air traffic control failures. Debra almost got a ticket this morning on her drive into work. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We are on the
radio every day from one until four o'clock and after
the show, oh maybe about fifteen twenty minutes, we post
the podcast version John Cobelt Show on demand and you
could hear everything that you missed. We in just a moment,

(00:22):
we're going to talk about Gavin Newsom. Yesterday he tried
to distract the world by issuing a press release and
a draft of a new law that he wants every city, town,
and county to implement, and he's trying to look like
a hero with the answer to all the homelessness in

(00:43):
the state. And Michael Selenberger wrote a piece today that
because every once in a while you need to do
like a review of history, what really has gone on
the last ten years or so in California and all
the bad, disastrous policy is that Gavin Newsom created and
pushed to create the hell that we're now living in.

(01:06):
Everybody forgets human memory is very flawed. So we'll get
to that in a minute, But first, can you get
the trumpets out? Eric? Do we have them? Because our
news anchor Devor mar has won another award, and this
is a big one. Read the whole title of the

(01:28):
war and so long, I can't even remember it. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
This is from the Radio Television Digital News Association. So
it's a regional Edward R. Moreau Award, an Edward R.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Murrow Award.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Edward R. Moreau.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
He is like the godfather of serious journalism, the CBS
reporter from going back to the nineteen forties on radias.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's a pretty prestigious award. I'm really excited. It's
regional and so I automatically now I am entered into
the national awards and so if if I win that,
that'll be announced in August.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
And it's for the series she did yes on suicide.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
News series Suicide.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Stigma and Shane. Yeah, so congratulations. He won two Golden
Mics for that series. And it was a very personal
story about what did Debra went through with her mother
and it was extremely powerful. If you haven't heard it,
we can go to kf I AM six forty dot
com the John Cobelt Show page and there'll be links

(02:33):
so you could hear part one and part two and
also a short discussion Deborah and I had the day
that we ran part two. Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Thank you again, John. Again.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I never thought that John would really want such a
series on his show, because it's really not a John
Cobel type of.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Series.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I guess that's the best way of putting it. But
John was amazing and he played both parts two days
and then a whole I think a whole segment.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
You and I talked to him, Yeah, back and forth.
It was great.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It was terrific, and you've won three awards now for it,
and this Edward Armuro Regional Award is a really big deal.
We have a shortcut actually, if you go to caf
I am six forty dot com slash suicide, you can
go right to the links to Deborah's Part one and
part two and our little discussion afterwards KFI am six
forty dot com slash Suicide. Now, Deborah celebrated this earlier

(03:33):
in the day by nearly getting arrested, and we'll tell
that story at the end of the hour. Okay, so
you want to.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, it's a crazy story.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
But well this is one of those only in Deborah
Land when it happened.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I know. But thank you, John, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I really, I really do appreciate You're always You're always
so great and acknowledging me, and I really.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I really appreciate it. Well, you do tremendous work. I
mean it's right in front of me every day. All right.
Now back to Michael shellon Burger and he's got a
website called public dot News Public dot News, and he's
got an extensive article and the title, Gavin Newsom is

(04:13):
the worst governor in America. Let's start right there. And
he talks about a book called Fool's Gold. Now, we
discussed this book some weeks ago. We had one of
the authors on, Susan Crabtree. Susan and her co author
Jed McPhatter did an intensive investigation into Gavin Newsom's background,

(04:35):
his time as mayor of San Francisco, and his policies
and the corruption that is always attached to Gavin Newsom
all the way along. And these are all things that
are true, rarely get covered in the media because Gavin
is a proud, honorable member of the Progressive Church, and
one of the commandments in the Progressive Church is all

(04:57):
the progressive welk. Journalists will will not dare write anything
negative or critical, even if it's truthful, even it's actually
dangerous to people who live in California. And I could
go several different directions off Schallenberger's story, but what grabbed
me was the opening part because he went through Gavin

(05:19):
Newsom's homelessness record since he became governor. Because yesterday he
tried to be mister superhero. It's like I've got an idea.
I've got an idea. Look over here, look at this.
And he had this press release and he had a
draft piece of legislation, an idea for an ordinance that

(05:40):
all the cities and towns and counties should pass, and
that this will have a great impact on homelessness. And
what got everybody's attention is he wants the homeless moved
every three days and no longer can you cleep a
sleep in the streets or the parking lots or any
public streets, pathways, sidewalks, and on and on and uh.

(06:06):
This is actually a warmed over proposal from a few
months back that he introduced. And most towns and cities
ignore him because he keeps threatening to withhold money, but
he doesn't withhold money. See, you could say what you
want about Trump, but when Trump threatens to cut off

(06:27):
your money. He cuts off your money, even if legally
he can't do that. Newsom says, well, it makes it
makes makes a lot of threats, but he doesn't follow through.
He makes a lot of proclamations, he doesn't follow through.
But to go to a review here of Newsom's history

(06:50):
and helping really to create and amplify this this homeless crisis,
he uh, he has spent, according to Susan Crabtree, an
astonishing thirty seven billion dollars on homelessness. Thirty seven billion.

(07:15):
I have seen estimates as h as twenty four that's
what Newsom admits to. But there is there's a link
to this study that's been done by the Legislative Office.
What is this the Legislative Analyst Office, the LAO, and
their number is thirty seven thirty seven billion dollars, which

(07:37):
is a mind numbing number. And he said that Newsom
has actually increased homelessness by twenty four percent, and he's
also increased violent crime by thirty one percent over the
national average. He did so by indiscriminately emptying the jails
and prisons during COVID. This allowed outdoor ten to markets

(08:00):
to flourish, decriminalized hard drug use and shoplifting. He gave
addicts cash and unconditional free housing, and he opposed demands
by Republicans and others over the last twenty years that
knews some reverse course. These are policies. Some of them
he had in San Francisco, some of them he had
when he went to Sacramento. All of them failed. Nothing

(08:22):
has worked, and that's why you end up with homelessness
up by twenty four percent and violent crime by thirty
one percent over the national average. And that's thirty seven
billion dollars spent. And we come back, we're going to
go through all the things he's done wrong. He is
such an overwhelming, colossal failure that it's it's mind boggling.

(08:46):
And he does these things and they're rarely reported on,
and if they are reported on, it's glossed over and
forgotten a day later. And then he issues some proclamation
to make him look like a hero. And again, you
don't have a middleman to explain what he does, why
he does it, what the effects are, the cumulative effects,

(09:07):
which is really important. If you have six, eight, ten,
twelve bad policies over a long period of time, it's
you don't realize that all these policies end up working
together to destroy a peaceful society. But he's really bad
and I'll tell you about it when we come back.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
All right, he's gone through this Michael Schellenberger piece. You
should I subscribe. I don't subscribe to too many things
on the internet, too many news sites, but his news
site I do. It's called public dot News. And Michael's
been on our show a number of times and he

(09:55):
kind of duvetailed off a book written by Susan Crabtree
and Jet mcfatt called Fool's Gold, And we've had Susan
on the air, and it was a thorough analysis of
Gavin Newsom's existence as a politician in our state. And
it is something that's necessary to go through all the

(10:15):
stupid ideas that he implemented or amplified that led to
the massive homelessness which makes life so miserable here in
Los Angeles and throughout California, many many places outside of
La is. You know, we don't have half of the
street homeless in America for nothing, and we have a
third of all the homeless, and a lot of it

(10:38):
has to do with Newsom, with great assistance from idiots
like Eric Arcetti and Karen Bass and London breed up
in San Francisco. He couldn't do it alone, but he
did a lot of it. He really set the tone.
So here's a rundown of all the things he's done
since he's become governor, starting with mental health services and

(11:06):
drug addiction services are inconsistent to non existent around the state,
and all these problems he either made worse or failed
to fix as they As Schottenberger writes, the governor of
California has extraordinary powers, including the power to withhold money
from counties, but he did not. He refused to enforce

(11:29):
standards or demand outcomes like I was saying, like I
was saying. Every once in a while he gives out
a threatening press release or shakes his fist at a
news conference, but in the end, everybody got their money.
Newsom promised in twenty nineteen to fix the state's broken
conservatorship laws. That's why there's severely mentally ill people on

(11:52):
the street, but he hasn't fixed them. They're still there.
The only way you can take somebody off the street
if he poses an immediate threat. And I mean, he's
got to have the acts in mid air about to
come down on someone's head, and then maybe somebody from

(12:13):
mental health services will intervene. But the acts has to
be airborne. It's got to be already in the striking position.
He Schollenberger says that Newso empowered activist nonprofits that actually
profit from homelessness, and he shielded them from basic transparency requirements.

(12:35):
This is what I talk about every day. Thirty seven
billion dollars, a lot of it went to nonprofits funneled
through various governments, but we don't know what they did
with the money, and they don't have to show us
what they did with the money. He pushed laws like Prop.
Forty seven that decriminalized theft in public drug use. That

(12:57):
was a disaster. He didn't just fail to fix the system.
He implemented and entrenched it. Knew some more than any
other person in the United States, promoted and funded the
deadly model of addiction enabled called Housing First, which eliminated
requirements for sobriety work or psychiatric treatment in exchange for housing. Yeah.

(13:21):
He and Garcetti pushed this for a decade, total failure.
If you don't demand sobriety or work or psite treatments,
you shouldn't get housing paid for by state tax payers.
We never demanded it. They got the housing, and they
continued to be drunk, addicted to drugs, or insane, and

(13:42):
they never worked. That approach started in San Francisco, untroduced him,
and then he took it statewide. He made primitive supportive
housing the only allowable solution for state homelessness funding. Now,
his idea of permanent supportive housing, according to Schellenberger, was
rundown motels where addicts and mentally ill people use overdose

(14:05):
and die from fentanyl. And even as costs sword construction lagged,
tens of thousands of die, ten tens of thousands died,
he still pushed this total failure, consistent, total, absolute failure
for ten years, and Newsome mandated that housing first be

(14:30):
the policy for the cities for using state funds. You
couldn't use any recovery first strategies or shelter first strategies.
It had to be you give him a house. And
now he's blaming the local cities and counties. Now he's
saying there's no more excuses, but is Schellenberger says it's

(14:53):
his failure not taking responsibility for the deadly and devastating
consequences of his policies and seeking to blame others is
what Newsom has done repeatedly over the last twenty years,
and as a result, open drug scenes run by violent
foreign drug dealers who prey upon some of the sickest
people in America remain as rampant as ever across California.

(15:16):
And the next part of the article talks about fools Gold,
which we have discussed with one of the authors, Susan Crabtree,
in the past. But I'm so sick of seeing his
mug on television every day and hearing the same tired
feature stories on him and the coverage that he gets.

(15:37):
And it's all because of his looks. He's not bright.
With his SAT scores, I think we're nine to sixty,
they're below average. He's not bright. He used to be
good looking, now he's aging. He's always been a dope,
and his policies have all been wrong, they've all been
a failure, and now he's panicking and he's trying almost

(16:03):
anything to get some positive publicity. So he could run
for president. He has slid to fifth place in national polls,
fifth place because he's a joke. He's a gagline, and
it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch him
squir hm and embarrass himself over the last year and
a half of his term. And it's a sad, sad

(16:26):
thing that a guy can become the governor, as he
likes to call it, the fourth largest economy in the world,
the largest state, and do an incredibly destructive job, incredibly
incredible failure, incredible incompetence, and the only reason he did
it was his hair and his jaw line. That's it.

(16:46):
He's got hair, he's got a jaw line, and he
doesn't have a brain in his head, and he doesn't
have any shame either, because he's a complete sociopath and
a complete narcissist.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
You're listening to John Kobe Else on demand from KFI
A sixty.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
We'ren every day from one until four and then after
four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app.
Coming up. In the next segment, we're gonna go through
Debra's morning. Deborah was so thrilled because she got a
major award, an Edward R. Murrow Regional Award for her
suicide series. That's three awards she got, and of course

(17:25):
she had to start texting the world about it and
accepting all the congratulations, and then the police intervened.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Only happens to me, So we'll.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
We'll talk about that next Yesterday we told you, and
you know I was, I was a little bit skeptical.
You when you get exclusives to the New York Post. Yeah,
I don't know what the percentage is, but I you know,
I never have one hundred percent trust because occasionally somebody
will asked me, well, how many news sites do you
go to? And I got to go to at least thirty,

(17:57):
if not more. And then you know, Ray and Eric
also go through a lot of news sites, and it's
hard to trust the specifics of anyone news site. It's
almost you have to read the story several times from
several different sources and try to come to a consensus
and separate all the bias and all the nonsense. So

(18:19):
when I saw this story yesterday that Newark Airport was
down to one traffic controller at one point, and you've
heard how many times they've had outages, at Newark Airport
over the last couple of weeks, and that it's chaos.
Flower of flights are many hours late, and the equipment
goes back to the nineteen eighties, and you've got these

(18:43):
blackouts on the radar that lasted for a minute or two,
and five air traffic controllers took trauma leave, which further
depleted an already low staff. And I'm thinking when, wait,
when police and firefighters have to do their job, imagine

(19:04):
what they see in experience. Imagine what military people see
in experience. They're not going on trauma leave. For God's sakes,
you're sitting at I mean, pilots have, you know, hairy
situations all the time. You're trained to handle them and
you move on. And the reason you don't have a

(19:25):
trauma is you're trained to expect that these things can occur.
And here's what you do. If they do occur, and
you get out of trouble, you solve the problem, and
then you continue on. So I don't undert this sounds
like some union perk said a bunch of deadbeat air
traffic controllers decided to take advantage of but anyway, The

(19:48):
New York Post said they were down to one controller,
and I think we both thought, could this possibly be true?
Is this a real story? Well, the New York Times
has a similar story. It is true. This was Monday
evening last night. They had as few as three traffic

(20:09):
air traffic controllers scheduled at Newark Airport, far below the
target of fourteen. So their target is fourteen, and the
fourteen comes from an agreement between the controllers union and
air traffic control officials. They signed this deal in January,

(20:29):
so they're supposed to be fourteen guys. They only had three,
except they didn't have three all the time. They expected
to have at least three scheduled every hour Monday evening. Now,
remember Newark Airport is North Jersey, but the traffic control
is based in Philly, ninety miles away. It's in Philadelphia.

(20:54):
But according to four sources, they told The New York
Times that the number of fully certed fight controllers on
duty was at times one or two, so they didn't
have three. Sometimes they didn't have two, they had one.
They may have had a trainee or two around, but

(21:16):
a fully qualified air traffic controller. Not fourteen one. And
I believe they were expecting about one hundred and sixty
eight flights to either take off or land between six
thirty and nine thirty last night. Again, this is the
New York Times. Staffing shortages affected flights for much of

(21:38):
the day, and that led to an average of more
than an hour and forty minutes of delays, some flights
almost seven hours delayed. And on Monday, on the three
to ten pm shift, they were operating with one or

(21:59):
two fully certified controllers. I guess maybe they'd have two,
and then a guy would go on break. Is it
time for my break? It's time for my break, isn't it.
You ever go to a grocery store. That's all the
cashiers do. It's time for my break. Can I go
on my break? Apparently they're doing that in Jay air
traffic Control too. Can I go on my break? Yeah?

(22:19):
Well you got three seven forty sevens to land? Yeah,
but I have to go on my break. They had
moved Newark's air traffic control to Philadelphia from Long Island,
hoping that moving the team there to a more affordable
area would allow the agency to hire more controllers. Now, normally,

(22:41):
when you're not paying enough money, you have to raise
the wages. If you can't attract candidates. It means you
have to up the salaries. That but relocating to Philly
angered some conrollers because they had to uproot their families.

(23:02):
You know, it's a couple hours to go from Long
Island to Philadelphia. And even if the move had gone well,
recruiting and training new controllers takes years. I guess some
of them quit and then you have all the traumatized
controllers and there's nobody left working. As a March of

(23:25):
last year, only fifty nine percent of controller roles were
filled at Long Island, which handled flights at Newark, LaGuardia,
and Kennedy and other smaller New York airports. That is
a complete disaster. And then on top of it, you
have the radar outages and Sean Duffy, who's Trump's Transportation secretary,

(23:48):
and they better get it together because this is outrageous.
There's no excuse for this, and you can't just blame
it on Biden because Trump was president for four years
before that. And Duffy said, they have an antiquated backup
telecommunications line that was overwhelmed when a primary line failed.
So the primary communication line fails, the second one gets overwhelmed.

(24:11):
That fails, and he said, we're trying to slow speeds
down to nineteen ninety speeds for nineteen eighty equipment. And
I guess he's talking about the flow of information along
these cables, saying they're now going to spend money on
new fiber optic cables. That's just I mean, how many

(24:37):
tens of trillions of dollars we have spent in taxes.
I just heard today they were talking about, you know,
the deals that we're doing in the Middle East, that
in Saudi Arabia, and how we spent to modernize one
of the airports in the Middle East. And I heard
that It's like you're modernizing an airport in the Middle East,

(25:01):
but the one in Newark is a complete disaster. We
are run by absolute morons. And then if there's a
plane crash, you just blame it on the last administration.
That's all they do. Well, what happens when you were
one of the last administrations? More coming out, Oh, we

(25:25):
come back, we'll find out how Debah almost ended up
in custody this morning.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
So stupid of me.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
She mut won a big award and.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
My day was almost ruined.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It was supposed to be your best day.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yes, yeah, you're listening to John Cobbel on demand from.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
KFI A six. So I got a message from Debora
this morning. She had won another award for her series
that ran last year on KFI. We played it and
it was called I'm going to get the exact.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Title, Suicide Stigma Shame.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Suicide Stigma Shame. It's two part series and it centered
around what Debra went through with her mom over twenty
years ago, and it was you can access it you
go to Kfiamsixporty dot com slash suicide and you could
hear both parts of the series and you can also
hear us discuss it a few months back when it

(26:30):
first aired. And she got this a regional award and
it's the Radio Television Digital News Association. Is that it Yes, okay,
And it's the Edward R. Murrow Awards. And a lot
of people old enough to remember Edward R. Murrow is
the premier newsman for CBS radio and television going back

(26:52):
to the nineteen forties and fifties and sixties, and he's
considered like the godfather of modern radio television journalism. And
so it's a huge, huge honor to Debragatt Now she
goes into the national competition. So she got that word
when she was home this morning and then hits the
one on one to come here to work. And apparently

(27:15):
he was getting a lot of congratulatory messages, which she
decided she had to reply to. So what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So Michelle Cube was very sweet and she posted a
picture and a congratulations on the KFI social media. And
so I was getting I was getting a lot of messages.
And Chris Berry, who is the interim program director, many
months ago, he sent out something.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
So I was getting kind of inundated with messages.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
And traffic was really a nightmare on the one on
one freeway. So you know, I was looking at my phone,
kind of staring at my phone. You're looking at my legs,
getting all excited, you know, the endorphins are going.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And all of a sudden, I hear there's woo woo R.
And I look and I see these flashing lights and
this police officer and.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I point to myself like, who me?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Me?

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Me?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You couldn't mean me, And he looks at me.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
And he shakes his head, yes, yes you, and then
he points over for me to pull.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Over another ditch. Driving on the freeway while counting her
likes and setting out messages.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I was mortified.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
So I'm thinking, okay, First of all, traffic was so
bad that I was probably gonna be late to get
to work. So I'm thinking, oh great, now I'm going
to be pulling over. First of all, I don't even
know how I'm gonna pull over, because traffic was pretty
much a standstill.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, the copp will wait for you, no matter how
long it takes, I.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Know, and he did. So I thought, I'm just gonna
be honest. I'm just going to tell him what happened.
So I rolled down my window and I had my phone,
and I had the picture of the Michelle had posted
on the KFI sits said officer.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I know, I know, I'm not supposed to be looking
at my phone, but let me just explain something.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm a news anchor, and uh, I won this really
prestigious award and.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
The station I did.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I said, the station posted my picture and I was
looking at it and it just happened. And I'm getting
all these accolades and and and and he looks.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
At me, and he smiles, and he says, oh, let
me sure. He takes my phone and.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
He's looking and he's reading, goes, you know I would
do the same, and I said, yeah, I normally don't
do this.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
You showed him your award to get out of a ticket.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
No, I showed him the picture that Michelle posted saying congratulations.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
To deb remark winning this editored armor.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's basically showing the trope okay award.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I was explaining why I was looking at my phone
and he said, okay, I'm going to give you a warning.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I'm gonna give you.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
He said, I need to get your and I have
your driver's license. He said, I only need that because
I need to have a record of you know that
I'm giving you a warning. And I said sure, So
I give him my driver's license and he goes, okay,
hang on, I need to give you a pamphlet about distracted.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Which I have. Oh and then you and then you
pulled the do you know who I worked for? Card?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, then I said, hey, I'm on the John Cobelt Show.
I don't know if you listened to the show, but
we're huge police, we're huge police advocates. And he just
kind of smiles, So I don't know if he's ever
heard of the show. Or the radio station.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
But he was kind of you.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I mean, look, there is a CHP officer I told
you that helped my daughter who knew just by listening
to my voice, knew who I was because he's a
huge Don Cobalt listener and he was awesome.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Right, So, uh, he.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Does know me, This guy, I don't think did, but
he felt sorry for me, and he and he understood
how excited I.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm surprising you even call for psychiatric backup. I know,
I really.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Didn't know how this was going to work, so I
just thought I would just be honest.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I want to read the little placard he gave you.
It was quite funny, it says California Highway Patrol Distracted
driving facts. Distractions are not just cell phones. Increased risk
of causing a crash. If you're eating, it's double, if
you're grooming, it's triple. Reading four times the risk of

(31:30):
a crash, reaching for something nine times the risk, texting
twenty three times the risk twenty three times. Approximately fifteen
percent of injury crashes are the direct result of distracted driving.
Distracted driving crashes injured four hundred and twenty four thousand
people had killed thirty one hundred and forty two in

(31:53):
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Here are the tips. Number one, focus on driving. Number
two put your away.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Oh yeah, he did tell me.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
He said, why don't you get one of those things
that you could put in your car that you could put.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Your phone in.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Reading or sending a text takes four point six seconds.
A crash occurs in three seconds. Do the math. I
see your kind all the time, my kind, you're kind? Yes,
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (32:27):
No, Look, this was a little okay, I'm going to
tell you honestly, I was not expecting to win this.
My husband could attest to that because we were walking
this morning and I said, look, most of the time,
public radio stations are the ones that win this award.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
They do.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
So I was shocked that I won, and.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
It was so kind that I was getting all these
congratulatory messages.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes you did, And so I kind of got.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
At the moment that you pulled that he pulled you over.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I know, I got caught up in that moment, and
which was bad because I was distracted.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You were a danger to everyone around you in the
one on one.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Except let me tell you, the one on one is
at a standstill so come on on.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
This little car here traffic still you get.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
He was very nice and he smiled and he said
he would have done the same thing.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
So he got it. He understood.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
John. If you're on the one on one this afternoon
after four o'clock you see her car veer away, She'll
be getting more congratulations this afternoon. He died down anyway.
Great work on the series, not so good work on
the driving Devor Mark is lied in the CAFI twenty
four our newsroom. Hey you've been listening to the John

(33:45):
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