November 6, 2025 • 29 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (11/06) - Orange County DA Todd Spitzer comes on the show to talk about a possible bed shortage that will lead to violent mentally ill criminals being released. More on the possibility of violent mentally ill criminals being released because of a bed shortage. Michael Monks comes on the show to talk about wildfire victims calling for CA Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara to step down. The rebuilding process in Malibu is going very slow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Every morning I wake up, I'm sitting on a sofa
sometimes in beds early in the morning, about five thirty,
I start, you know, my phone starts digging with the
text messages from Deborah.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm glad. Every morning you wake up.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's a victory. It's like, well, I'm up again. Sometimes
it's oh no, I'm up again. And every day I
start looking through the news and it's like, no, this
can't be no, this must be a hoax, a parody account, something.
Right now, here's the one that got me today. There's
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twelve mentally ill accused criminals, including a murder defendant, fund
mental patience, to be released back into Orange County unsupervised
over the next two months. Because Orange County the government
does not have twelve treatment debts. Two of them could
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be out on Friday. One of them is charged with
hacking a person to death with a hatchet. Good release him.
What Todd Spitzer, the Orange County DA is coming on here.
He's got a lot to say, Todd.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How are you well? I'm just as im bored as
you are, John. I mean, let's talk about the hatchet
murderer who is wearing tinfoil on his head earlier in
the day before the event and was howling at the moon.
Or the sexually violent predator who has been deemed a
sexually violent predator, refuses to register as a sex registrant
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and has been on the run. And then, of course
we have two cases tomorrow. One is a person who
was in violation of a restraining order when he was
caught trying to go after the woman he had already
been making sexual advances towards. He was caught with massage oil,
a vibrator, his pants or unzipped, he had no underwear on,
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and he was in her trying to get into her backyard.
Or the individual tomorrow who was speeding down his street
in the cul de sat confronted his sixty five year
old neighbor who said slowed down, and then almost beat
him to death. These are the craziest of the craziest.
Mentally ill with some of the worst and most heinous crimes,
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and the legislature keeps creating more and more diversion for
mentally ill. No one's responsible. Everybody needs a shrink, and
so all the beds in the state are full, and
the beds that we need for these people are unavailable, unattainable,
no funding, no beds, no mental hospitals, nothing and the law.
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So my office, of course handles the criminal case. But
after two years of trying to restore these individuals the
mental competency so they can stand trial and assist their counsel,
if they are unable to be restored to competency, they
must be given a mental health bed for treatment, because
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we then morphed them into a conservatorship that's handled in
my county by the public Guardian. I am not the
public guardian, and the public guardian does not and has not,
and for months, knowing this problem was coming, has not
been able to get beds, and no one screamed about it.
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No one pulled the fire alarm, no one called the
governor's office, no one worked with our state legislators like nothing,
And tomorrow the two I described could be released from
custody with no supervision. Outrageous John, Whose job.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Is it to call somebody in state government and say
we need twelve beds for twelve dangerous mental patients.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Like, who's that person? What's their name?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So the public guardian in my county is supervised by
our healthcare agency, and I've gone to battle with them before.
We had a horrible murder in the city of Orange
a couple of years ago. I was on your show
talking about it with a He executed three people, a
five year old child, and he was shot in the
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head by the police. He's now he is now in
the conservatorship that I literally had a light of fire
under it was a different public guardian there. Then I
got that person transferred because of their incompetence. But literally
now the public is reliant on an unelected bureaucrat buried
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in a county agency without any accountability, and these people
are without finding any of these mental health beds. Are
going to force a court as early as tomorrow to
say no, sorry, you don't have a mental health bed. Sorry,
you've had years to do this. You're going to have
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to release them.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What does this public guardian, this agency, what do they
do all day if they're not placing twelve dangerous mental patients.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
In a bed for treatment.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
What do they do then, John, I've been asking the
county the same question since I fought him in a
case called Gaxiola is shooting an Orange I talked to
you about. I thought we had really circled the wagon
and got competent individuals who knew when to ask for help,
who knew when to sound the alarm, who knew how
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to say we've got a serious problem, and then all
of us would get together and raise the roof. If
I have to camp out in front the governor's office,
say Governor, create emergency beds in your state hospitals. But
looks on he's closing prisons. They're passing legislation after legislation
that demand mental health beds, and guess how much money
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and how many beds are giving us squat. The governor
is more concerned about Washington politics national issues. In California state.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The idiot went to Brazil to fight climate change. Today
they're having like a religious worship conference.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And a huge while my county and every other county
facing this situation is melting, where the victims are scared
to death. One of the mothers of one of the
individuals who could be released. She is scared to death,
and she went on the news saying, I can't have
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my son out of custody. I can't control him. He
cannot be let back down on the street.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I mean, I only got another minute.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The Public Guardian is an agency, it's an office.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
There isn't a specific person.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, it's a person in an agency supervised under the
Healthcare Agency of our county, and they're an unelected bureaucrat.
Is the name of this person, you've never met him,
I don't know. You don't know his name, I don't
I should find a john out of fairness to him.
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I'm not going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That, but I don't think anybody should be fair to him.
You got you gotta a murderer who hacked somebody to death,
and they're gonna be walking out in the street.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That whole agency ought to be identified. Everybody works in a.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Back on and I'll get that information. But on the murderer,
the hacker, we have until December nineteenth to get him
a bed. If we don't get him a bed by
December nineteenth, he's going to be out on the street.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But you got two guys getting released tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I don't know we're going to court. I don't
know what the heck the court is going to say,
because I'm still hoping. It's two fifteen on Thursday. I'm
still hoping between now and court tomorrow morning at nine
o'clock there's gonna be beds. But John, I don't control this.
It's twelve hands of the public guardian.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Oh for good that this is. This is so crazy
and it's so insane. It's so ridiculous. They ought to
put the public guardians and lock them up, get them
a mental health bed.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
All right, thank you, Todd, and we will keep on
this day.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
All right, Todd up you John, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Todd Spitzer, the Orange County District Attorney. We'll have a
wet more coming up a two thirty. Michael Monks is
coming on because I gave you the story the other
day how Newsome and cal Fart Lara, the Insurance Commissioner
wrote new insurance regulations just a couple of months before
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the Palisades fire, and then that allowed the insurance companies
to pull thousands of policies. And then the fire hit
and there's a lot of people who were not covered
or they were thrown into the fair plan with minimal coverage. Well,
you know the story, predictably big deal the New York Times,
very long, detailed story. Nothing's happened since, and now some
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of the fire survivors want Newsom to demand Lara's resignation.
We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
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Speaker 2 (09:51):
We just had Todd Spitzer on the Orange County District Attorney.
He had a press release today. If you're just joining us,
you're not going to sit down. There's twelve mentally ill
criminals who are getting released back into Orange County communities
unsupervised in the next two months because the County of
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Orange can't find treatment beds. Apparently there are new laws
that allow criminals to avoid prison and get this phony
belone mental health treatment. If after two years, the doctors
won't certify that they're not mentally ill anymore, then the
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DA has to do something, either getting a conservatorship with
the county Public Guardian, and that means they would end
up in a lockdown, state licensed facility, or they get
dumped maybe into your town. They have mental illness. It
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has not been cured. Now it's not going to be treated.
There's not going to be any oversight. And they've done
really bad things. And as he said, there's one guy
who hacked a person to death. Here's a guy manvel
Send here beat his sixty five year old neighbor after
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being told to drive more slowly. You ever yell at
somebody in the neighborhood, drive more slowly, and you wave
your hand to slow him down. I do I don't
do that, because this guy was brutally beaten for doing that.
And then Derek Real, he is the one that oh
he's the one that that Todd Spitcher talked about sixty
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years old, tried to climb over a woman's fence. Two flashlights,
bottle of massage, no oil on him, and a vibrator.
His zipper is down, not wearing underwear. Imagine seeing that
guy clambering over your fence.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So they sent him to a mental hospital. Judge says
he's incompetent and now he's going to get released. He's
gonna get released tomorrow along with the guy. Well, the
first this guy's Derek Real. He's the one who is
running around with the vibrator and the massage oil and
no underwear. Then there's men Vere sand here is the
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guy who brutally beat his neighbor. Both of them are
going to get released tomorrow. And Todd Spitzer says, well,
it's the Orange County Public Guardian. They're supposed to place
them in a mental hospital, but they just won't do it.
So I said, well, who's the public guardian? And he
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didn't want to say. You know, Todd's got to work
with these people. I can say though, because I don't
give a crap. I can't stand this system. This is absurd.
So the Orange County Public Guardian is David Sanchez. He
was appointed by the Orange County boarder supervisor. Why do
they appoint this guy and then he doesn't put the
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mental patients away?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's his job.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
He was Deputy Public Guardian, Senior public Senior Deputy Public Guardian,
supervising Deputy public Guardian. So he's had all these public
guardian positions as he climbs up, climbs up the greasy pole.
And it's supposed to create conservator ships so they can
lock mental patients up in mental hospitals, lock them up.
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They're the conservative of last resort. So David Sanchez is
the public guardian of the Orange County and until somebody
tells me otherwise, he's responsible for letting possibly menver send
her and Derek Reel out tomorrow. Reel was the one
who tried to climb over a woman's fence at the
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age of sixty with the bottle of assade Joy and
a vibrator and no underwear, and the judge says he's
severely mentally ill. And then sand here beat up a
neighbor after being told to drive more slowly in Fountain Valley.
So David Sanchez is the guy that maybe those of
you in Fountain Valley and uh where the other guy
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was from?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
What town? Oh, Newport Beach. Yeah, they'll get released back.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
In their hometowns most likely, So Newport Beach and Fountain Valley.
David Sanchez the public guardian who will put violent mental
patients in mental hospitals even though that's his job.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm just astonished. All right, we come back. Michael Monks.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Fire survivors here in La want Newsom to ask for
Ricardo Lara, he's the insurance commissioner, ask for his resurme
resignation because cal Fart, Lara and Newsom severely botched the
insurance reform that let the thousands of people lose using
their insurance right before the fires.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Ron from one until four after four o'clock the podcast
if you missed anything on the radio show John Cobelt
Show on demand on the iHeart app. On Sunday, The
New York Times had a very long, very detailed story
five writers on how Gavin Newsom and the insurance Commissioner
Ricardo Lara decided to reform the rules and the regulations
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of the insurance industry, and it was supposed to allow
the insurers to raise rates as long as they wrote
policies and fire prone areas at a very high percentage
to cover most of the homes. There were so many
loopholes that the insurance industry, the lobbyists crammed in. Lara
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said he was bullied, and the loopholes allowed the insurance
companies to cancel thousands and thousands of popes, especially in
the areas where the fire happened by coincidence, Palsage and
an Altadena and now some of the fire survivors want
Newsome to ask for Lara's resignation.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Michael Monks is here from KFI News. So it's this.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Those survivors held a press conference today. I mean they're upset.
They say there's a couple of crises happening at the
same time, one you just laid out, as also laid
out by the New York Times. They say that there
is no way for folks to get insurance these days
in this state. So that's one problem, And the other
problem is those who did have insurance, even through the
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private sector, are not getting the money that was supposedly
promised to them under their policies, and they feel like
there's no champion for them in the government the way
that perhaps a state insurance commissioner ought to be. They
read the same article you read over the weekend, this
scathing fifteen page if you're printed up on just regular
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set papers, fifteen pages long out of the New York Times,
five bylines. I mean, if you have five reporters on
a story, one of two things is happening. It's either
a breaking story that's happening right now, and you've got
multiple people just trying to gather the stuff or they
went looking for a long time at a lot of records,
and the New York Times was not messing around to
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this article to send five journalists to Los Angeles and
into California to figure out what went wrong, and they
found a lot. And I can imagine how furious people
are because I know in the Palisades, I know people,
and they got cancellation policies right before the fire where
they were thrown into the Fair Plan. Some of them
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never even knew that they had been canceled for whatever reason. Yeah,
this bargaining by the insurance Commissioner with the insurance agency
was supposed to get these insurance companies to ensure more
people in areas that are prone to fires. But as
you pointed out, there were apparently so many loopholes that
the insurance companies were able to evade that, and so
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they did cancel people right up through the fires. I mean,
the people who previously had private insurance. It was also
the point of that was to get people off of
the state program, get them off of the Fair Plan.
We don't want so many people relying because you're paying
maybe less, but you're also getting much less coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I remember, right, I think instead they doubled the enrollment
in the fair.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
That's exactly what the investigation found, and that is what
this survivor's network from the Eaten Fire, and also some
Palisades fire survivors pointed out in their detailed press release
after their their press conference today. There was a press conference,
as I noted today, and one of the speakers, Jill
Spivak from the Palisades, says she has a message for
Governor Newsom.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Your Palisades constituentsy half your back. Now is the time
for you to have ours almost taking here his passed
fire in them after math of the devastation you gave
the Palisades fire victims hope. You made promises when the
cameras were rolling to help us recover with the support
of our state leaders. But now we need to see
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your actions behind those words. Commissioner Laura has proven he
won't protect consumers. Please replace him with someone who will
hell for its Serican Insurance Commissioner for texts families, not
the insurance doing harm. Our recovery depends on it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
She says that after the fire in the Palisades, she
thought her family was protected. She had paid State Farm
insurance for twenty five years, but she says since then,
she's learned the real disaster was the endless maze of
delays and denial. She said she had to put her
own business on hold just to fight for what she's
already paid for. And she says, again, Governor Newsom, you
gave us hope. Now we need your actions that make
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that hope real.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I know she was being nice, but you actually believe
Gavin Newsom promises on camera?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
By definition, those are lies.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You know, there are people that support the governor or
at least found some comfort from his words at the time.
They don't perhaps have as much experience as you do
in watching it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm just astonished. Move Wow, But really he said that
on camera?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And really they have been lied to,
not necessarily buy a governor who some directly, but they
have been lied to. They bought it insurance policy that's
either not there anymore or did not pay out. Joy
Chen who lost her house and eating fire and Alta Dina.
She says, families can no longer buy or renew coverage,
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and those who still have it can't access the benefits
they've already paid for. And that's the dual crisis, like
we don't have a government, there's nowhere for them to go.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean Ricardolara, you know Channel seven up in San
Francisco did that ten minute story on him flying around
the world, you know, going on safaris and going to
parades and bringing a huge staff and an entourage of
security and and and just partied much of the time
and charged us tens of thousands of dollars for these trips,
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like forty eight trips he took.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Was he on that Iceland trip with you?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
He was. I think that would have been some good ratings.
He was on my floor.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, yea. Heats a lot, first in line at the
buffet at the hotel every morning.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'd be a tough job being his PR guy right now,
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But the thing is nobody comments. I mean, I mean
Newsom went to.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Brazil to fight climate change. Yeah, that's going to be effective.
And then Lara's gone into hiding. You got all these
reports coming out between Channel seven and this New York Times.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, this is huge, this story.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, you know, and you got all these reports and
they're very detailed, very well researched and sourced and nothing happens.
You got people holding press conference, nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They don't care.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, they actually feel very very alone. That's one of
the comments that was made is that we just feel alone.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, this is you voted for him. Thank you, Michael,
My pleasure. KFI News. What did you think? Don't you
people see? Don't you understand what a narcissistic sociopath is?
Look up those terms. They should put Gavin Newsom's photo.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
In.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
If Wikipedia has a page on narcissistic sociopaths, they should
have Newsom's photo there to illustrate it. He doesn't care,
He has no guilty, has no conscience, It doesn't matter.
He's fighting climate change in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Today.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Coming up at three o'clock. And here is the great
federal government screw up of the moment. They're gonna be
cutting about ten percent of the flights at forty major
airports across the country, about about four thousand flights a
day by next week. It starts tomorrow with a four
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percent cut. It's because our legislators, our senators are stupid,
and Trump and the administration should fix this, and they
should pass legislation to pay the air traffic controllers. The
air traffic controllers have not died paid for a month,
and they're taking other jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Some of them are resigning.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's an unbelievable screw up, and it's dangerous and now
it's wildly inconvenient coming into Thanksgiving. And I don't care
about their internal politics and all their nonsense. Federal government
should provide an orderly airport system where air traffic controllers
and TSA agents and functioning airports.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No excuse, I don't want to hear it. Do your
freaking job.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I feel bad, so bad for the fire victims and
lt DNA and the Palisades as we've gone through, and
there's even more. You just heard Michael Monks talk about
the idiot insurance commissioner calpart Lara and Newsom who's in
Brazil today, And they completely botched their new insurance regulations
and thousands and thousands lust insurance right before the start
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of the fire. Now some of them are trying to rebuild.
Here's what's going on in Malibu. ABC seven reporter Josh
Haskell traumatic seven years for Malibu.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
The twenty eighteen Woolsey Fire destroyed four hundred eighty eight
homes and roughly half have been rebuilt. Then there was
the pandemic which stalled tourism, mudslides, and more fires, including
the Franklin Fire December twenty twenty four, and then the
Palisades Fire January seventh, destroyed over seven hundred homes, closing
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Pacific Coast Highway four months. Ten months since the Palisades Fire,
Malibu has issued eleven permits to rebuild. Roughly twenty percent
of the now empty lots are for sale.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
The building process is complicated by design to slow development,
and the residents have largely for the last several decades
been okay with that. I'd go as far as to
say we've even endorsed that process. The problem is it
doesn't work for a disaster of this scale.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
But from those who run the City of Malibu, a
more optimistic outlook.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
If you want to rebuild the city of Malibu is here.
It's a difficult thing for homeowners to go through and
make those decisions. Building a house in the best of times,
in the easiest place to build, it is still a
intricate puzzle that you have to go through doing it
while you're coming out of a tragedy can make it
even more difficult.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Before construction even begins on beachfront homes in Malibu, homeowners
have to assess the wave conditions to make sure that
over time the surf doesn't impact their wastewater.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Systems or septic tanks.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
That's expensive, along with reinforcing the sea walls to make
sure that over time Pacific Coast Highway does and encroach.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
On their property.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Darren Graves's grandmother bought this beach front home back in
nineteen seventy three, and after she passed away, it became
Graves's home.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We want to come back as soon as possible and
help bolster business and keep Malibu as strong as it's
ever been. Eleven permits in ten months. Eleven permits. That's
that's just incompetence, and they don't care. You remember you
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heard all the press conference. Everybody talked about streamlining and
streamlining of the permit process. And I know Malibu has
got issues that other towns don't have. But twenty percent
of the empty lots are for sale. A lot of
people are giving up and one more note in Alta Dina.
According to the La Times Today many of the standing
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homes are still contaminated with lead and asbestos, even after
all the remediation efforts. It turns out the remediation techniques
that they use, that the insurance companies recommended the companies.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That were hired didn't work very well.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They tested fifty homes in the Burn area and downwind
and the remediation techniques pushed by insurance companies at public
health officials in La County have not worked very well.
There is still dangerous amounts of lead in asbestos, and
with asbestos you could get mesothelioma and other cancers. Lead
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can lead to permanent brain damage, especially in children. There
is no safe level of lead and asbestos. If you
get exposed, and the insurance company and the county health
department screwed that up too, you are totally on your own.
It is almost it's incomprehensible that almost every facet of government,
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every agency, every department, every employee is incompetent, uncaring, incompetent, negligent, dangerous.
But hey, you know, keep believing in government, keep voting
for more government, keep voting the way you're going. When
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we come back now to the federal government, they're idiocy. Really,
how much money is lying around in Washington right now?
Air traffic controllers We're showing up for work. Federal government
won't pay them. They're stupid political dispute. I don't care.
I just want I got a My whole family's flying
this weekend. Are we all playing roulette? Are we all
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going to have our schedules turned upside down? Talk about
it with Alex Stone, ABC News Next Stebra Mark Lid
MKFI twenty for our newsroom.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Every morning I wake up, I'm sitting on a sofa
sometimes in beds early in the morning, about five thirty,
I start, you know, my phone starts digging with the
text messages from Deborah.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm glad. Every morning you wake up.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's a victory. It's like, well, I'm up again. Sometimes
it's oh no, I'm up again. And every day I
start looking through the news and it's like, no, this
can't be no, this must be a hoax, a parody account, something.
Right now, here's the one that got me today. There's
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twelve mentally ill accused criminals, including a murder defendant, fund
mental patience, to be released back into Orange County unsupervised
over the next two months. Because Orange County the government
does not have twelve treatment debts. Two of them could
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be out on Friday. One of them is charged with
hacking a person to death with a hatchet. Good release him.
What Todd Spitzer, the Orange County DA is coming on here.
He's got a lot to say, Todd.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
How are you well? I'm just as im bored as
you are, John. I mean, let's talk about the hatchet
murderer who is wearing tinfoil on his head earlier in
the day before the event and was howling at the moon.
Or the sexually violent predator who has been deemed a
sexually violent predator, refuses to register as a sex registrant
(01:56):
and has been on the run. And then, of course
we have two cases tomorrow. One is a person who
was in violation of a restraining order when he was
caught trying to go after the woman he had already
been making sexual advances towards. He was caught with massage oil,
a vibrator, his pants or unzipped, he had no underwear on,
(02:21):
and he was in her trying to get into her backyard.
Or the individual tomorrow who was speeding down his street
in the cul de sat confronted his sixty five year
old neighbor who said slowed down, and then almost beat
him to death. These are the craziest of the craziest.
Mentally ill with some of the worst and most heinous crimes,
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and the legislature keeps creating more and more diversion for
mentally ill. No one's responsible. Everybody needs a shrink, and
so all the beds in the state are full, and
the beds that we need for these people are unavailable, unattainable,
no funding, no beds, no mental hospitals, nothing and the law.
(03:09):
So my office, of course handles the criminal case. But
after two years of trying to restore these individuals the
mental competency so they can stand trial and assist their counsel,
if they are unable to be restored to competency, they
must be given a mental health bed for treatment, because
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we then morphed them into a conservatorship that's handled in
my county by the public Guardian. I am not the
public guardian, and the public guardian does not and has not,
and for months, knowing this problem was coming, has not
been able to get beds, and no one screamed about it.
(03:52):
No one pulled the fire alarm, no one called the
governor's office, no one worked with our state legislators like nothing,
And tomorrow the two I described could be released from
custody with no supervision. Outrageous John, Whose job.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Is it to call somebody in state government and say
we need twelve beds for twelve dangerous mental patients.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Like, who's that person? What's their name?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So the public guardian in my county is supervised by
our healthcare agency, and I've gone to battle with them before.
We had a horrible murder in the city of Orange
a couple of years ago. I was on your show
talking about it with a He executed three people, a
five year old child, and he was shot in the
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head by the police. He's now he is now in
the conservatorship that I literally had a light of fire
under it was a different public guardian there. Then I
got that person transferred because of their incompetence. But literally
now the public is reliant on an unelected bureaucrat buried
(05:04):
in a county agency without any accountability, and these people
are without finding any of these mental health beds. Are
going to force a court as early as tomorrow to
say no, sorry, you don't have a mental health bed. Sorry,
you've had years to do this. You're going to have
(05:24):
to release them.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
What does this public guardian, this agency, what do they
do all day if they're not placing twelve dangerous mental patients.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
In a bed for treatment.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
What do they do then, John, I've been asking the
county the same question since I fought him in a
case called Gaxiola is shooting an Orange I talked to
you about. I thought we had really circled the wagon
and got competent individuals who knew when to ask for help,
who knew when to sound the alarm, who knew how
(06:03):
to say we've got a serious problem, and then all
of us would get together and raise the roof. If
I have to camp out in front the governor's office,
say Governor, create emergency beds in your state hospitals. But
looks on he's closing prisons. They're passing legislation after legislation
that demand mental health beds, and guess how much money
(06:26):
and how many beds are giving us squat. The governor
is more concerned about Washington politics national issues. In California state.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
The idiot went to Brazil to fight climate change. Today
they're having like a religious worship conference.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And a huge while my county and every other county
facing this situation is melting, where the victims are scared
to death. One of the mothers of one of the
individuals who could be released. She is scared to death,
and she went on the news saying, I can't have
(07:09):
my son out of custody. I can't control him. He
cannot be let back down on the street.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I mean, I only got another minute.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
The Public Guardian is an agency, it's an office.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
There isn't a specific person.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, it's a person in an agency supervised under the
Healthcare Agency of our county, and they're an unelected bureaucrat.
Is the name of this person, you've never met him,
I don't know. You don't know his name, I don't
I should find a john out of fairness to him.
(07:44):
I'm not going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That, but I don't think anybody should be fair to him.
You got you gotta a murderer who hacked somebody to death,
and they're gonna be walking out in the street.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That whole agency ought to be identified. Everybody works in a.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Back on and I'll get that information. But on the murderer,
the hacker, we have until December nineteenth to get him
a bed. If we don't get him a bed by
December nineteenth, he's going to be out on the street.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But you got two guys getting released tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I don't know we're going to court. I don't
know what the heck the court is going to say,
because I'm still hoping. It's two fifteen on Thursday. I'm
still hoping between now and court tomorrow morning at nine
o'clock there's gonna be beds. But John, I don't control this.
It's twelve hands of the public guardian.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Oh for good that this is. This is so crazy
and it's so insane. It's so ridiculous. They ought to
put the public guardians and lock them up, get them
a mental health bed.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
All right, thank you, Todd, and we will keep on
this day.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
All right, Todd up you John, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Todd Spitzer, the Orange County District Attorney. We'll have a
wet more coming up a two thirty. Michael Monks is
coming on because I gave you the story the other
day how Newsome and cal Fart Lara, the Insurance Commissioner
wrote new insurance regulations just a couple of months before
(09:16):
the Palisades fire, and then that allowed the insurance companies
to pull thousands of policies. And then the fire hit
and there's a lot of people who were not covered
or they were thrown into the fair plan with minimal coverage. Well,
you know the story, predictably big deal the New York Times,
very long, detailed story. Nothing's happened since, and now some
(09:37):
of the fire survivors want Newsom to demand Lara's resignation.
We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We just had Todd Spitzer on the Orange County District Attorney.
He had a press release today. If you're just joining us,
you're not going to sit down. There's twelve mentally ill
criminals who are getting released back into Orange County communities
unsupervised in the next two months because the County of
(10:14):
Orange can't find treatment beds. Apparently there are new laws
that allow criminals to avoid prison and get this phony
belone mental health treatment. If after two years, the doctors
won't certify that they're not mentally ill anymore, then the
(10:35):
DA has to do something, either getting a conservatorship with
the county Public Guardian, and that means they would end
up in a lockdown, state licensed facility, or they get
dumped maybe into your town. They have mental illness. It
(10:55):
has not been cured. Now it's not going to be treated.
There's not going to be any oversight. And they've done
really bad things. And as he said, there's one guy
who hacked a person to death. Here's a guy manvel
Send here beat his sixty five year old neighbor after
(11:17):
being told to drive more slowly. You ever yell at
somebody in the neighborhood, drive more slowly, and you wave
your hand to slow him down. I do I don't
do that, because this guy was brutally beaten for doing that.
And then Derek Real, he is the one that oh
he's the one that that Todd Spitcher talked about sixty
(11:44):
years old, tried to climb over a woman's fence. Two flashlights,
bottle of massage, no oil on him, and a vibrator.
His zipper is down, not wearing underwear. Imagine seeing that
guy clambering over your fence.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So they sent him to a mental hospital. Judge says
he's incompetent and now he's going to get released. He's
gonna get released tomorrow along with the guy. Well, the
first this guy's Derek Real. He's the one who is
running around with the vibrator and the massage oil and
no underwear. Then there's men Vere sand here is the
(12:26):
guy who brutally beat his neighbor. Both of them are
going to get released tomorrow. And Todd Spitzer says, well,
it's the Orange County Public Guardian. They're supposed to place
them in a mental hospital, but they just won't do it.
So I said, well, who's the public guardian? And he
(12:47):
didn't want to say. You know, Todd's got to work
with these people. I can say though, because I don't
give a crap. I can't stand this system. This is absurd.
So the Orange County Public Guardian is David Sanchez. He
was appointed by the Orange County boarder supervisor. Why do
they appoint this guy and then he doesn't put the
(13:08):
mental patients away?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's his job.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
He was Deputy Public Guardian, Senior public Senior Deputy Public Guardian,
supervising Deputy public Guardian. So he's had all these public
guardian positions as he climbs up, climbs up the greasy pole.
And it's supposed to create conservator ships so they can
lock mental patients up in mental hospitals, lock them up.
(13:36):
They're the conservative of last resort. So David Sanchez is
the public guardian of the Orange County and until somebody
tells me otherwise, he's responsible for letting possibly menver send
her and Derek Reel out tomorrow. Reel was the one
who tried to climb over a woman's fence at the
(13:57):
age of sixty with the bottle of assade Joy and
a vibrator and no underwear, and the judge says he's
severely mentally ill. And then sand here beat up a
neighbor after being told to drive more slowly in Fountain Valley.
So David Sanchez is the guy that maybe those of
you in Fountain Valley and uh where the other guy
(14:19):
was from?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
What town? Oh, Newport Beach. Yeah, they'll get released back.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
In their hometowns most likely, So Newport Beach and Fountain Valley.
David Sanchez the public guardian who will put violent mental
patients in mental hospitals even though that's his job.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm just astonished. All right, we come back. Michael Monks.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Fire survivors here in La want Newsom to ask for
Ricardo Lara, he's the insurance commissioner, ask for his resurme
resignation because cal Fart, Lara and Newsom severely botched the
insurance reform that let the thousands of people lose using
their insurance right before the fires.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You're listening to John Cobels on Demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Ron from one until four after four o'clock the podcast
if you missed anything on the radio show John Cobelt
Show on demand on the iHeart app. On Sunday, The
New York Times had a very long, very detailed story
five writers on how Gavin Newsom and the insurance Commissioner
Ricardo Lara decided to reform the rules and the regulations
(15:30):
of the insurance industry, and it was supposed to allow
the insurers to raise rates as long as they wrote
policies and fire prone areas at a very high percentage
to cover most of the homes. There were so many
loopholes that the insurance industry, the lobbyists crammed in. Lara
(15:53):
said he was bullied, and the loopholes allowed the insurance
companies to cancel thousands and thousands of popes, especially in
the areas where the fire happened by coincidence, Palsage and
an Altadena and now some of the fire survivors want
Newsome to ask for Lara's resignation.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Michael Monks is here from KFI News. So it's this.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Those survivors held a press conference today. I mean they're upset.
They say there's a couple of crises happening at the
same time, one you just laid out, as also laid
out by the New York Times. They say that there
is no way for folks to get insurance these days
in this state. So that's one problem, And the other
problem is those who did have insurance, even through the
(16:38):
private sector, are not getting the money that was supposedly
promised to them under their policies, and they feel like
there's no champion for them in the government the way
that perhaps a state insurance commissioner ought to be. They
read the same article you read over the weekend, this
scathing fifteen page if you're printed up on just regular
(16:59):
set papers, fifteen pages long out of the New York Times,
five bylines. I mean, if you have five reporters on
a story, one of two things is happening. It's either
a breaking story that's happening right now, and you've got
multiple people just trying to gather the stuff or they
went looking for a long time at a lot of records,
and the New York Times was not messing around to
(17:20):
this article to send five journalists to Los Angeles and
into California to figure out what went wrong, and they
found a lot. And I can imagine how furious people
are because I know in the Palisades, I know people,
and they got cancellation policies right before the fire where
they were thrown into the Fair Plan. Some of them
(17:41):
never even knew that they had been canceled for whatever reason. Yeah,
this bargaining by the insurance Commissioner with the insurance agency
was supposed to get these insurance companies to ensure more
people in areas that are prone to fires. But as
you pointed out, there were apparently so many loopholes that
the insurance companies were able to evade that, and so
(18:03):
they did cancel people right up through the fires. I mean,
the people who previously had private insurance. It was also
the point of that was to get people off of
the state program, get them off of the Fair Plan.
We don't want so many people relying because you're paying
maybe less, but you're also getting much less coverage.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I remember, right, I think instead they doubled the enrollment
in the fair.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
That's exactly what the investigation found, and that is what
this survivor's network from the Eaten Fire, and also some
Palisades fire survivors pointed out in their detailed press release
after their their press conference today. There was a press conference,
as I noted today, and one of the speakers, Jill
Spivak from the Palisades, says she has a message for
Governor Newsom.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Your Palisades constituentsy half your back. Now is the time
for you to have ours almost taking here his passed
fire in them after math of the devastation you gave
the Palisades fire victims hope. You made promises when the
cameras were rolling to help us recover with the support
of our state leaders. But now we need to see
(19:12):
your actions behind those words. Commissioner Laura has proven he
won't protect consumers. Please replace him with someone who will
hell for its Serican Insurance Commissioner for texts families, not
the insurance doing harm. Our recovery depends on it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
She says that after the fire in the Palisades, she
thought her family was protected. She had paid State Farm
insurance for twenty five years, but she says since then,
she's learned the real disaster was the endless maze of
delays and denial. She said she had to put her
own business on hold just to fight for what she's
already paid for. And she says, again, Governor Newsom, you
gave us hope. Now we need your actions that make
(19:53):
that hope real.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I know she was being nice, but you actually believe
Gavin Newsom promises on camera?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
By definition, those are lies.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You know, there are people that support the governor or
at least found some comfort from his words at the time.
They don't perhaps have as much experience as you do
in watching it.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm just astonished. Move Wow, But really he said that
on camera?
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And really they have been lied to,
not necessarily buy a governor who some directly, but they
have been lied to. They bought it insurance policy that's
either not there anymore or did not pay out. Joy
Chen who lost her house and eating fire and Alta Dina.
She says, families can no longer buy or renew coverage,
(20:43):
and those who still have it can't access the benefits
they've already paid for. And that's the dual crisis, like
we don't have a government, there's nowhere for them to go.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean Ricardolara, you know Channel seven up in San
Francisco did that ten minute story on him flying around
the world, you know, going on safaris and going to
parades and bringing a huge staff and an entourage of
security and and and just partied much of the time
and charged us tens of thousands of dollars for these trips,
(21:14):
like forty eight trips he took.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Was he on that Iceland trip with you?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
He was. I think that would have been some good ratings.
He was on my floor.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, yea. Heats a lot, first in line at the
buffet at the hotel every morning.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'd be a tough job being his PR guy right now,
no question about it.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But the thing is nobody comments. I mean, I mean
Newsom went to.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Brazil to fight climate change. Yeah, that's going to be effective.
And then Lara's gone into hiding. You got all these
reports coming out between Channel seven and this New York Times.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean, this is huge, this story.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, you know, and you got all these reports and
they're very detailed, very well researched and sourced and nothing happens.
You got people holding press conference, nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They don't care.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah, they actually feel very very alone. That's one of
the comments that was made is that we just feel alone.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Well, this is you voted for him. Thank you, Michael,
My pleasure. KFI News. What did you think? Don't you
people see? Don't you understand what a narcissistic sociopath is?
Look up those terms. They should put Gavin Newsom's photo.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
In.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
If Wikipedia has a page on narcissistic sociopaths, they should
have Newsom's photo there to illustrate it. He doesn't care,
He has no guilty, has no conscience, It doesn't matter.
He's fighting climate change in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Today.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Coming up at three o'clock. And here is the great
federal government screw up of the moment. They're gonna be
cutting about ten percent of the flights at forty major
airports across the country, about about four thousand flights a
day by next week. It starts tomorrow with a four
(23:04):
percent cut. It's because our legislators, our senators are stupid,
and Trump and the administration should fix this, and they
should pass legislation to pay the air traffic controllers. The
air traffic controllers have not died paid for a month,
and they're taking other jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Some of them are resigning.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
It's an unbelievable screw up, and it's dangerous and now
it's wildly inconvenient coming into Thanksgiving. And I don't care
about their internal politics and all their nonsense. Federal government
should provide an orderly airport system where air traffic controllers
and TSA agents and functioning airports.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
No excuse, I don't want to hear it. Do your
freaking job.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I feel bad, so bad for the fire victims and
lt DNA and the Palisades as we've gone through, and
there's even more. You just heard Michael Monks talk about
the idiot insurance commissioner calpart Lara and Newsom who's in
Brazil today, And they completely botched their new insurance regulations
and thousands and thousands lust insurance right before the start
(24:12):
of the fire. Now some of them are trying to rebuild.
Here's what's going on in Malibu. ABC seven reporter Josh
Haskell traumatic seven years for Malibu.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
The twenty eighteen Woolsey Fire destroyed four hundred eighty eight
homes and roughly half have been rebuilt. Then there was
the pandemic which stalled tourism, mudslides, and more fires, including
the Franklin Fire December twenty twenty four, and then the
Palisades Fire January seventh, destroyed over seven hundred homes, closing
(24:45):
Pacific Coast Highway four months. Ten months since the Palisades Fire,
Malibu has issued eleven permits to rebuild. Roughly twenty percent
of the now empty lots are for sale.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
The building process is complicated by design to slow development,
and the residents have largely for the last several decades
been okay with that. I'd go as far as to
say we've even endorsed that process. The problem is it
doesn't work for a disaster of this scale.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
But from those who run the City of Malibu, a
more optimistic outlook.
Speaker 9 (25:18):
If you want to rebuild the city of Malibu is here.
It's a difficult thing for homeowners to go through and
make those decisions. Building a house in the best of times,
in the easiest place to build, it is still a
intricate puzzle that you have to go through doing it
while you're coming out of a tragedy can make it
even more difficult.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
Before construction even begins on beachfront homes in Malibu, homeowners
have to assess the wave conditions to make sure that
over time the surf doesn't impact their wastewater.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Systems or septic tanks.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
That's expensive, along with reinforcing the sea walls to make
sure that over time Pacific Coast Highway does and encroach.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
On their property.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
Darren Graves's grandmother bought this beach front home back in
nineteen seventy three, and after she passed away, it became
Graves's home.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We want to come back as soon as possible and
help bolster business and keep Malibu as strong as it's
ever been. Eleven permits in ten months. Eleven permits. That's
that's just incompetence, and they don't care. You remember you
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heard all the press conference. Everybody talked about streamlining and
streamlining of the permit process. And I know Malibu has
got issues that other towns don't have. But twenty percent
of the empty lots are for sale. A lot of
people are giving up and one more note in Alta Dina.
According to the La Times Today many of the standing
(26:56):
homes are still contaminated with lead and asbestos, even after
all the remediation efforts. It turns out the remediation techniques
that they use, that the insurance companies recommended the companies.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That were hired didn't work very well.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They tested fifty homes in the Burn area and downwind
and the remediation techniques pushed by insurance companies at public
health officials in La County have not worked very well.
There is still dangerous amounts of lead in asbestos, and
with asbestos you could get mesothelioma and other cancers. Lead
(27:42):
can lead to permanent brain damage, especially in children. There
is no safe level of lead and asbestos. If you
get exposed, and the insurance company and the county health
department screwed that up too, you are totally on your own.
It is almost it's incomprehensible that almost every facet of government,
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every agency, every department, every employee is incompetent, uncaring, incompetent, negligent, dangerous.
But hey, you know, keep believing in government, keep voting
for more government, keep voting the way you're going. When
(28:26):
we come back now to the federal government, they're idiocy. Really,
how much money is lying around in Washington right now?
Air traffic controllers We're showing up for work. Federal government
won't pay them. They're stupid political dispute. I don't care.
I just want I got a My whole family's flying
this weekend. Are we all playing roulette? Are we all
(28:49):
going to have our schedules turned upside down? Talk about
it with Alex Stone, ABC News Next Stebra Mark Lid
MKFI twenty for our newsroom.
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