October 16, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (10/16) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Michael Monks joins the show. Lou explains the only way forward for homeless. Also, there is now a Long Beach grocery law because shoplifting is at a high.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'tf I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Lou Penrose sitting in for coblt this week. John will
be back next week. Well, what a story. US Attorney
Billy A. Saley has announced and arrest and criminal chargers
in two separate cases misuse of public funds. This is
a good example of the good guys getting the bad guys.
But the fact that so much public money was open
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for theft and fraud through the state's Project Home Key
is truly truly concerning KF. Michael Monks was there at
the press conference, So what do we know about these
individuals and how hard did they have to try to
steal this homeless money?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Apparently, Lou, they didn't have to try quite as hard
as the US Attorney's Office would like to see.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
In fact, that was noted.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'll have a clip for you here momentarily from one
of the investigators at the IRS, who point out that
the system is sort of designed, unfortunately to be preyed upon.
But what we know so far is that a couple
of guys now face charges over allegedly misusing public funds
for their own personal benefit. And one of those guys
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is Cody Holmes. We learned about this guy last year
because the development company where he served as chief financial
officer sued him over the misappropriation of funds. But it
doesn't look like that development company has completely offlook themselves
off the hook themselves. They're called Shangra Law Industries. Cody
Holmes lives in Beverly Hills worked as a CFO at
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Shangra Law and so he was in charge of submitting
a lot of the documents that were necessary to be
received by state and local entities in order to disperse
public monies. He was trying to secure nearly twenty six
million dollars in grant money for a state homelessness project
called Home Key in Thousand Oaks. This organization had already
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received millions of public dollars to build and operate housing
for the homeless in Redlands and in King City up
in Monterey County, so they had a relationship with the
state government. This twenty six million dollar grant ended up
being awarded because of the work that Holmes did on
behalf of Shangra Law, And what federal prosecutors allege is
that more than two point two million dollars of that
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was transferred from Shangra Law to an account that Holmes controlled,
and then from November of twenty two to May of
twenty twenty three, more than two million dollars was paid
towards American Express cards. And the charges on those credit
card accounts include the purchases at well known luxury retailers.
So basically, they're alleging that your tax dollars paid for
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Cody Holmes to go to luxury retailers and rack up
charges of more than two million dollars on his American
Express cards, which he then paid off with your money.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Then there's a second.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Guy who lives in the parlic Can we can be
sitt with Shangri La Industries for a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Absolutely does ej entertainment come to mind?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
From the Wolf of Wall Street rob Ryiner coming running
into the boardroom.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What is EJ entertaining?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Is this like?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, this didn't show up on the radar of anybody's
Shangri Law Industries involved in Project Home Key and housing
the homeless.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I suppose they don't hold it against them if they
get creative with their names. And again, this organization had
a relationship with the state agencies because they had already
received millions of dollars for other developments, again in Redlands
and in King City in Monterey County. So it may
have been even easier for Cody Holmes to allegedly pull
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off this scam because of the work that had been
done previously. I note that last year, in twenty twenty four,
was reported that that company was going after him for
similar reasons. But he has now been formally charged. He
faces twenty years in prison, and he lives in Beverly Hills.
I point that out because the next guy lives in Brentwood.
So these aren't guys coming.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Out of poor areas in LA or not the first
time they've been on a rodeo in working with Project
home Key. So all of a sudden to decide, you know,
I need to go shopping, and I'm just going to
use that little bit of money that's in the account
and pay off my It just seems like a strange
turn of a career move.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, I can imagine that for somebody who doesn't have
a conscience. If you're in a position to where you
have access to that many millions of dollars, it's got
to be tempting. It's got to be tempting, especially when
you think you can get away with it, because there
has to be an element of that to it. Again,
these are just charges, these are allegations, but you know,
he is accused of stealing two million dollars for purchases
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he made for himself in a very short period of time.
We're talking six months. This other guy is Stephen Taylor.
He's from Brentwood. He's charged with bank fraud, aggravated identity theft,
and money laundering. He's already out of jail right now
on three point six million dollars bond. And here's what
federal prosecutors allege about him. Between August of twenty nineteen
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and July of twenty twenty five. He's accused of using
fake banks statements and false cash representations to obtain loans
and line of lines of credit to operate his own
real estate businesses. So he has acquired or refinance properties
in La neighborhoods like Silver Lake, Los Phelis, Westlake, del Rey,
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Pico Union, and Chevy Hills. Has got a long history
of doing this, but he would allegedly lie to lenders
about his intended use of the property. So what ended
up happening is one of these properties that he purchased
allegedly lying to receive a loan for for eleven million dollars.
This other publicly funded homeless housing developer, Wineguard shows up
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and purchases that same property for twenty seven million dollars
because he lied to inflate the price of it, so
he faces even more time in prison. Cody Holmes faces
up to twenty up to twenty years in prison, and
Steven Taylor this could be a very long sentence because
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for each of those counts. It's thirty years in prison
for each of the seven bank fraud counts, ten years
in federal prison for the money laundering count, and a
mandatory consecutive two year prison sentence for the aggravated identity
theft count.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I mean, it's a good day for the US Attorney's office, right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
This looks like the bad guys got caught and the
good guys are bringing them to justice, at least with
respect to some of the facts that were laid out at.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The press conference today.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well, let me take you back to April when Acting
US Attorney Bill A. Sale announced that he was forming
a task force specifically to investigate fraud and corruption in
homeless funds, and he said today that that work is ongoing.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
We are tracking billions of dollars of public money coming
into our seven county district that is intended to be
going to address homelessness. Too often this money has been wasted, mismanaged,
or outright stolen. We are focused on the organizations and
entities that are the recipients of these funds, and we'll
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be seeking charges against anyone who steals this money or
misrepresents how it's being used.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So think about that, lou What motivated the US Attorney's
Office to announce such a task force. It's been a
series of audits and public questions, either from the media
or other government officials, who say this homeless industrial complex,
specifically in Los Angeles County and the City of Los
Angeles is running rampant with no serious checks or balances.
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IRS investigator Tyler Hatcher said this today.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
The city and County of Los Angeles have been played
by deficient programs set up to address homelessness. Businessmen, releaters, developers,
and others have taken advantage of local, state, and federal
programs aimed at helping vulnerable citizens. This unchecked fraud stops today.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So not only have these government agencies been accused of
either mismanaging their funds or not accounting for it properly,
the IRS is saying they're not even set up to
be protected from these predatory developers who can easily apparently
come in and steal tens of millions of dollars from them.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Now you were at the press of conference today, was
a US Attorney, Billy A. Sally, flanked by any of
the members of the Bord of Supervisors, the county attorneys,
any of the being counters at the county, or anybody
that is involved with Project home Key that represents the
Los Angeles to the state project.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
No, only two other individuals the one you just heard
from at the IRS, Tyler Hatcher, and Akil Davis from
the FBI here in Los Angeles. So it was just
a federal case, and this federal investigation is ongoing and
it may be looking at some of those government agencies.
When we first got word that the US Attorney's Office
was to announce arrest today and charges today, you know,
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our minds were all over the place about what that
could represent, because there are so many different hands and
government agencies and publicly funded agencies and quasi government agencies
that are connected to the money that is dispersed to
support homeless housing. But it turns out to be these
two guys first. But you get the sense that these
investigations aren't stopping here.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Michael Monks with the KFI Newsroom, Thanks so much, Thanks
for going down there today. Thanks for coming back and
giving us the details this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
All right, when we come back, let's sort through this
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It seems that a lot of money is going to
solve this homelessness issue, and a lot of it's not
going to the homeless, to the housing projects, to the
social workers. Some of it's going to pay off American
Express cards for people that are involved in the setup
of the whole thing. But it doesn't need to be
this complicated, and maybe we need to take a whole
different approach to how we raise this money, administer this money,
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and begin to get people into housing.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I have some of my own thoughts. That's coming
up next.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Lou Penrose if John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Lou Penrose Iva John Cobelt on the John Covelt Show.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So look a major story.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The US Attorney billy Is Saley announcing today arrest and
criminal charges two separate cases involving fraudum issuse of public
money intended to combat homelessness, literally stealing money from Project
home Key, which is public funding for the motel to
housing conversion process, to accompany Shangri law industries. That gets
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me so good for the good guys, Good for the
US Attorney's Office. I don't know why we would not
see representatives from the Board of Supervisors. They're standing shoulder
to shoulder with law enforcement. I know they're on different
political sides with respect to the President of the.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
United States, but this is law and order.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And we have been fighting and fighting and fighting in
Los Angeles County, fighting and fighting and fighting everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
In California to combat homelessness.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And one of the ways to do it is to
get those who are qualified to live in some kind
of shelter, whether it's motel or housing, to get them
in there quickly. And there's a lot of criticism of
the housing first model, and I understand where that criticism
comes from.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I do know this having worked on.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Homeless outreach committees for the United Way, and I did
some private consulting, and I work with private apartment owners,
and not every homeless person is the same. And homelessness
is complicated, but it's not. And I'll explain what that
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means and why I just said it. It's complicated because
there's many layers to it. But the solution to teach
one of those layers is pretty easy. When we do
these point in time counts, when we do these studies,
when we contract with people, or when voluntary organizations from
universities go and study our homeless population.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
We all reach the same conclusions.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that is it's pretty much three different communities, three
different categories of homeless. There is absolute mental illness, like literally,
people that are a five dollars Copaid generic you know,
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medicine for manic depression, away from being normal like you
and me, hold a.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Job, have a house, have a family.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
They lose access to that medicine or for whatever reason,
go off their meds and now they're a homeless person
screaming at a lampost I mean literally, we could solve
a third of the homeless problem with just very inexpensive
psychotropics that are available on the market.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Then you get into people who literally just.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Became homeless, like have only been homeless for six months
for a very short period of time, and prior to
that had apartments and cars and jobs, and something happened.
It could have been just a life event that was overwhelming,
or a series of events in their life perfect storm.
You probably had some of those in your life where
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just everything is happening at the same time and it's
all bad, and some individuals just could not handle it
and cave to the pressure and there was no family around,
or they got sideways with their family. But they already
know how to live on their own, They already know
how to get up and go to work, They already
know how to have rent money, but they just don't
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have it anymore, can't get it anymore, and are probably
a little depressed too, and probably tired by the way.
Women make up a large portion of that second like
trifurcation that I just did. And if you can't sleep
because you're worried because you're a woman and you're homeless,
you will start to feel crazy very quickly, and it's
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a real pity. And we can help these people and should,
but they're easy to help, Like these are people that
you you give them an opportunity to get into a
motel room or a not a shelter so much, but
a private.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Space where they could bolt the door.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Behind them and take a shower, and quickly they can
recover with help.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And then the other third are just.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Really people like they're the wor the lowest of the
low with respect to our ability to recover them.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
They they are either.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They just are resistant. They are insistent on being abum.
They refuse, they refuse treatment. They don't want to not
be homeless anymore. And these are tough cases, and even
social workers will tell you these are the hard case.
The last ten percent of your caseload. If you were
able to solve one hundred percent of your caseload as
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a social worker in this in this space, the last
ten percent is where you're going to spend eighty percent
of your time. But now you're down to only a
third of the homeless left, but one hundred percent of
the social workers and one hundred percent of the shelters
and spaces available to help, so we could really attack
the problem and really.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get at it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So like just pouring money into the situation is not
working it. Where there is lots of government money, there
will be crooks. Sometimes even people from legitimate business worlds
will all of a sudden decide, you know what, no
one's looking, no one cares. There's so much money coming in,
and if I don't take it, somebody else will. And
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if I take it, there'll be more tomorrow. Nobody will
ever notice, and sometimes that does. I'm not saying that's
what's happened here, but that's at least what some of
the charges are and some of the stories. So those
credit cards were paid off with public moneys, there's no
question about that.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We'll get to know more about that in the days
and weeks to come, and keep you posted.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt
Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt this week talking about
this major story US attorney Billy A Sale today and
other federal LA enforcement officials announced the arrest and criminal
charges in two separate cases, fraud and misuse of public
money for homelessness, literally stealing money out of Project Home Key,
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falsifying financial records, buying buildings designed for the homeless and
then selling them at millions of dollars of profit, taking
money that was intended for motel to housing conversions and
using it to payoff personal credit cards.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
It makes your blood boil.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But my experience is sorry, So two things can be
true at the same time. Number one, you cannot solve
mental illness while somebody is sleeping on.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
A park bench. You can't.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
You can't solve a drug addiction in mental illness while
somebody is in a tent on the sidebalk.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So they have to be somewhere, whether that's in a hospital,
in an institution.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Which I have always advocated. If I advocated for.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I would argue, you can't solve mental illness and a
shelter either, but at least they're not on the street.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But there has to be.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You can say housing first, you can say shelter first.
You can say accommodations first. There has to be a
place where the individual who is being helped can go
and safely lock the door behind them. That's true in
my opinion. Number two, Money doesn't solve the problem. And
the more money you throw out, more opportunity there is
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for some shister to steal it out of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Money doesn't solve the problem. And here's why.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You pick a homeless person for me. Point out a
homeless person for me anywhay, Just pick a random homeless person.
Let's give him first and last month's rent plus a
security deposit, and guess what. In ninety days, they'll be
just as homeless. So it has nothing to do with money.
I'm tired of paying taxes to the last segment of
thieves that keeps stealing it and taking it and stealing it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't want to work no more. I understand where
that comes from.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I totally agree, though on the homeless analysis she gave
right on spot on.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, of course I'm spot on.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But they have made it far more complicated with setting
up all these nonprofits and then government money is funded
through sends money to the nonprofits and the nonprofits higher consultants,
and then they engage with people in the private and
public sector of housing and all of a SUDD where
I broadcast from Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
In San Diego at Kogo.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The county was giving more money to a hotel operator
out in Kearney, Mesa. And the hotel operator was it
was all homeless people. They're putting the homeless people in
the motel, and the motel owner was charging more to
the county or to whatever nonprofit the county funneled money
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to than the rack rate of the motel.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So you would never go to these motels, trust me.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But back in the day when people actually could take
a family to a motel, what that person would pay
for a motel room instead of giving a discount to
the county, the county was overpaid like by a lot,
not like one hundred and ten percent, like two hundred
percent of the rack rate of the hotel.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So the hotel operator.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Was happy, the county it wasn't you know the nonprofit money,
it's money is money. They have no connection the money
because the money is just given to them from the
county or whatever grant they applied for or whatever. And
they wrecked the hotels and they're not fixed.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
They're not helped.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
They don't answer the door when the social worker comes.
Some of them were engaging in prostitution in there. There's
certainly drug use, and it just became a huge blight
to the rest of the people that had to live
or work or business is near this once functioning motel.
So you cannot just if you want to say housing first,
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then you better tell me what second right away, like
that very afternoon. As soon as the homeless person is
moved into quote housing, then by noon that day whatever
is second after housing first has to go into effect.
Otherwise we're just wreckon motel rooms. Public money is being wasted,
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the homeless are not being helped, our quality of life diminishes,
and at some point the gravy train runs out or
the hotel gets condemned, where somebody starts a fire and
the whole thing burns down and they're all back on
the streets.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So it has to be sheltering of some kind.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And I'm not necessarily talking about a Salvation Army homeless shelter,
although the Salvation Army are doing their part. But it
has to be mental health evaluation and care, and it
has to be compulsory. See, we used to have insane
asylums back in the day.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You can call them mental health institutions.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You can call them the nervous hospital like Billy Bob
Thornton did.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You can do whatever you want to call them. Great
big gray.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Buildings with bars on the window, beds inside, with nurse ratchet.
We used to have that, and that's where these people
went until they were good enough to be out on
the street.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Again, we don't have that anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And there's a whole history as to why we don't
have that, and I've heard all the libertarian arguments. But
what we have now is we have one flew over
the cuckoo's nest inside out, like down to like six
in la Is, one flew out of the cuckoo's nest,
just in the reverse. There is no nurse, there are
no beds, but the insane asylum is inside out.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
On our city streets.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's the same insane asylum, except instead of walking the
corridors of the insane asylum, they're walking our corridors of society.
So we haven't really changed that much. The homeless are
really still committed in their own minds because they're not
getting help. They're not committed in an institution where they
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would be getting help. But the homeless are just as
jailed because they're ill and in the rain.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So one day we'll get it right.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But at least today we got the bad guys who
had their hand in the cookie jar Lou Penrose. If
John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
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Speaker 8 (22:57):
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Speaker 3 (23:01):
Forty talking about this major arrest and filing of criminal
chargers against two individuals misusing public funds that was intended
to combat homelessness here in California, ceiling from the state's
Project Home Key program. Yeah, it doesn't ding bat Newsom
say housing first, so he's obviously to blame too.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I do know this that when Gavin Newsom was mayor
of the City and County of San Francisco, there was homeless,
and now there's more homeless, so he doesn't know how
to solve homeless. There was less homeless in twenty ten
in Los Angeles than there is now. There was almost
no homeless in twenty ten in San Francisco, and there
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was no homeless in Sacramento or relatively none.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
There was a whino here and there.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So something has changed, and that's a completely different conversation
and probably uncomfortable conversation for our society. But we can
have that conversation another time. Something has unraveled. Back in
the day, homelessness or complete poverty in American society in
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a major American city meant you either really did something wrong,
you gambled away the rent money, you're a drunk and
an idiot, and now you're on the cold heart smet
or like something just happened and you were begging for
money and you were trying to get back on your feet.
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Like back in the day, people didn't want to be homeless.
Now I don't think people that are homeless want to
be homeless, but they act like they want to be homeless.
They resist help, they resist sobriety, they resist care, they
resist moving to a shelter, if that shelter has conditions.
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That's very new. We have not seen that in the past.
And I suspect as a society we don't.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Have the emotional.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Or mental capacity to comprehend why any American, why any
Angelina would rather spend the night in the rain than
go to a shelter. But the condition of the shelter is, Look,
you can't drink here, and you've got to be sober.
We're trying to help you. Right, many people say, no,
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you know what, I'm going to stay where I am.
I got some cardboard boxes. The rain will eventually stop.
I know the seven to eleven that lets me use
the restroom, and I got a whole little system here, Like,
we're not able to comprehend that because those of us
that are housed, we don't want to be in the rain.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So we think they don't want to be in the rain.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And we're arguing with again mental illness, or we're arguing
with drug addiction or a level of depression that is very,
very new.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All I want to know is am I going to
get my money back?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're not, but you'll get your treasure in heaven. Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So, former Speaker of the House and current California Congresswoman
Nancy Pelosi had a run in with a reporter yesterday
and it really got ugly and it went sideways. This
is now a string of California Democrats who are losing
it with journalists. Which it depending on.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Where you how you feel about age and crotchetiness.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It might be an issue of age, or it might
be an issue of California.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Democrats don't like.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
This new brand of journalism that is being unfolded upon them.
You now have the Ashley Zavalas of the world from
CACRA and Sacramento. You saw the reporter that went up
against Katie Porter and followed up the question three times
on whether or not we'd see any more of these videos,
and Porter just refuse to answer. It's happening to Gavin Newsom,
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believe it or not. You see it happened to Democrats
on the Hill in DC, and now you hear it
happening to former Speaker Pelosi who just does not want
follow up questions.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Anymore and shouted at the reporter, shut up.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I did not refuse the national guard. The president didn't
send it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh boy, tells the reporter to shut up. Into the microphone.
It wasn't an under the breath comment. It wasn't a
hot mic comment. It was into the microphone.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Shut up.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I did not refuse the national Guard. The President didn't
send it.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So when we get back from following the news at
two o'clock, we'll talk with the Hills Ashley Fields. There's
a new January sixth commission that has been put together
by Congressman Barry luden Milk Ludermilk Ludmilk of Georgia. New
Select Committee. It's under the House to just share committee.
They're going to look at then Speaker Pelosis roll in
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January sixth. So now the shoe was on the other foot,
and you thought the whole January sixth thing was over
and the investigation was over.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Now they're starting it all over again.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
But now Republicans are in charge, and they're saying that
the Nancy Pelosi had the ability to call in the
National Guard and quell the uprising and catch the Viking
guy with the hat and the spear, and he should
should have never been inside the Capitol. Where is that
Viking guide? By the way, that's the that's the image
(28:33):
that comes to mind whenever I hear of January sixth.
That's the difference between me and I think Trump hating Democrats,
Trump hating Democrats see the insurrection, and all I can
see is that Viking guy with the face paint uh
and the uh in the water buffalo lodge from the
flintstones that that hat on and the and the horns
(28:53):
and the spear, and also the other guy.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
There's two. There's two real iconic images of.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
January sixth that's on my mind, and that is the
Viking guy and he's always flanked by the other guy.
It looks like the lead singer from the eighties southern
rock band thirty eight Special.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So the lead singer from thirty eight Special on the
Viking Guide.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
They're going to come back into the public news as
this new select committee established to look into Pelosi's role,
and as I said, Speaker Pelosi did not like the
line of question. Daing Congers on Pelosi, are you at
all concerned that the new January sixth.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Committee will find you wiable to that?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Why did you refuse the National Guard on January sixth?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Shut up?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't
send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking
points as if you're as a serious journal.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
The American people want to know we still have questions.
Thank you? Oh boy? All right, So when we come back,
we'll talk with Ashley Field.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
She's with the Hill and she'll give us an update
on Nancy Pelosi. Also, Senator Mitch McConnell took a spill today.
It might be time to revisit Termine. It's all coming
up next on The John Covelt Show. Lou Penrose info
John on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
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You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
Lou Penrose sitting in for coblt this week. John will
be back next week. Well, what a story. US Attorney
Billy A. Saley has announced and arrest and criminal chargers
in two separate cases misuse of public funds. This is
a good example of the good guys getting the bad guys.
But the fact that so much public money was open
(00:31):
for theft and fraud through the state's Project Home Key
is truly truly concerning KF. Michael Monks was there at
the press conference, So what do we know about these
individuals and how hard did they have to try to
steal this homeless money?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Apparently, Lou, they didn't have to try quite as hard
as the US Attorney's Office would like to see.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
In fact, that was noted.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'll have a clip for you here momentarily from one
of the investigators at the IRS, who point out that
the system is sort of designed, unfortunately to be preyed upon.
But what we know so far is that a couple
of guys now face charges over allegedly misusing public funds
for their own personal benefit. And one of those guys
(01:17):
is Cody Holmes. We learned about this guy last year
because the development company where he served as chief financial
officer sued him over the misappropriation of funds. But it
doesn't look like that development company has completely offlook themselves
off the hook themselves. They're called Shangra Law Industries. Cody
Holmes lives in Beverly Hills worked as a CFO at
(01:37):
Shangra Law and so he was in charge of submitting
a lot of the documents that were necessary to be
received by state and local entities in order to disperse
public monies. He was trying to secure nearly twenty six
million dollars in grant money for a state homelessness project
called Home Key in Thousand Oaks. This organization had already
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received millions of public dollars to build and operate housing
for the homeless in Redlands and in King City up
in Monterey County, so they had a relationship with the
state government. This twenty six million dollar grant ended up
being awarded because of the work that Holmes did on
behalf of Shangra Law, And what federal prosecutors allege is
that more than two point two million dollars of that
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was transferred from Shangra Law to an account that Holmes controlled,
and then from November of twenty two to May of
twenty twenty three, more than two million dollars was paid
towards American Express cards. And the charges on those credit
card accounts include the purchases at well known luxury retailers.
So basically, they're alleging that your tax dollars paid for
(02:44):
Cody Holmes to go to luxury retailers and rack up
charges of more than two million dollars on his American
Express cards, which he then paid off with your money.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Then there's a second.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Guy who lives in the parlic Can we can be
sitt with Shangri La Industries for a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Absolutely does ej entertainment come to mind?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
From the Wolf of Wall Street rob Ryiner coming running
into the boardroom.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What is EJ entertaining?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Is this like?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, this didn't show up on the radar of anybody's
Shangri Law Industries involved in Project Home Key and housing
the homeless.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I suppose they don't hold it against them if they
get creative with their names. And again, this organization had
a relationship with the state agencies because they had already
received millions of dollars for other developments, again in Redlands
and in King City in Monterey County. So it may
have been even easier for Cody Holmes to allegedly pull
(03:35):
off this scam because of the work that had been
done previously. I note that last year, in twenty twenty four,
was reported that that company was going after him for
similar reasons. But he has now been formally charged. He
faces twenty years in prison, and he lives in Beverly Hills.
I point that out because the next guy lives in Brentwood.
So these aren't guys coming.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Out of poor areas in LA or not the first
time they've been on a rodeo in working with Project
home Key. So all of a sudden to decide, you know,
I need to go shopping, and I'm just going to
use that little bit of money that's in the account
and pay off my It just seems like a strange
turn of a career move.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, I can imagine that for somebody who doesn't have
a conscience. If you're in a position to where you
have access to that many millions of dollars, it's got
to be tempting. It's got to be tempting, especially when
you think you can get away with it, because there
has to be an element of that to it. Again,
these are just charges, these are allegations, but you know,
he is accused of stealing two million dollars for purchases
(04:34):
he made for himself in a very short period of time.
We're talking six months. This other guy is Stephen Taylor.
He's from Brentwood. He's charged with bank fraud, aggravated identity theft,
and money laundering. He's already out of jail right now
on three point six million dollars bond. And here's what
federal prosecutors allege about him. Between August of twenty nineteen
(04:56):
and July of twenty twenty five. He's accused of using
fake banks statements and false cash representations to obtain loans
and line of lines of credit to operate his own
real estate businesses. So he has acquired or refinance properties
in La neighborhoods like Silver Lake, Los Phelis, Westlake, del Rey,
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Pico Union, and Chevy Hills. Has got a long history
of doing this, but he would allegedly lie to lenders
about his intended use of the property. So what ended
up happening is one of these properties that he purchased
allegedly lying to receive a loan for for eleven million dollars.
This other publicly funded homeless housing developer, Wineguard shows up
(05:41):
and purchases that same property for twenty seven million dollars
because he lied to inflate the price of it, so
he faces even more time in prison. Cody Holmes faces
up to twenty up to twenty years in prison, and
Steven Taylor this could be a very long sentence because
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for each of those counts. It's thirty years in prison
for each of the seven bank fraud counts, ten years
in federal prison for the money laundering count, and a
mandatory consecutive two year prison sentence for the aggravated identity
theft count.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I mean, it's a good day for the US Attorney's office, right.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
This looks like the bad guys got caught and the
good guys are bringing them to justice, at least with
respect to some of the facts that were laid out at.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
The press conference today.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well, let me take you back to April when Acting
US Attorney Bill A. Sale announced that he was forming
a task force specifically to investigate fraud and corruption in
homeless funds, and he said today that that work is ongoing.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
We are tracking billions of dollars of public money coming
into our seven county district that is intended to be
going to address homelessness. Too often this money has been wasted, mismanaged,
or outright stolen. We are focused on the organizations and
entities that are the recipients of these funds, and we'll
(07:03):
be seeking charges against anyone who steals this money or
misrepresents how it's being used.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So think about that, lou What motivated the US Attorney's
Office to announce such a task force. It's been a
series of audits and public questions, either from the media
or other government officials, who say this homeless industrial complex,
specifically in Los Angeles County and the City of Los
Angeles is running rampant with no serious checks or balances.
(07:32):
IRS investigator Tyler Hatcher said this today.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
The city and County of Los Angeles have been played
by deficient programs set up to address homelessness. Businessmen, releaters, developers,
and others have taken advantage of local, state, and federal
programs aimed at helping vulnerable citizens. This unchecked fraud stops today.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So not only have these government agencies been accused of
either mismanaging their funds or not accounting for it properly,
the IRS is saying they're not even set up to
be protected from these predatory developers who can easily apparently
come in and steal tens of millions of dollars from them.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Now you were at the press of conference today, was
a US Attorney, Billy A. Sally, flanked by any of
the members of the Bord of Supervisors, the county attorneys,
any of the being counters at the county, or anybody
that is involved with Project home Key that represents the
Los Angeles to the state project.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
No, only two other individuals the one you just heard
from at the IRS, Tyler Hatcher, and Akil Davis from
the FBI here in Los Angeles. So it was just
a federal case, and this federal investigation is ongoing and
it may be looking at some of those government agencies.
When we first got word that the US Attorney's Office
was to announce arrest today and charges today, you know,
(08:47):
our minds were all over the place about what that
could represent, because there are so many different hands and
government agencies and publicly funded agencies and quasi government agencies
that are connected to the money that is dispersed to
support homeless housing. But it turns out to be these
two guys first. But you get the sense that these
investigations aren't stopping here.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Michael Monks with the KFI Newsroom, Thanks so much, Thanks
for going down there today. Thanks for coming back and
giving us the details this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
All right, when we come back, let's sort through this
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It seems that a lot of money is going to
solve this homelessness issue, and a lot of it's not
going to the homeless, to the housing projects, to the
social workers. Some of it's going to pay off American
Express cards for people that are involved in the setup
of the whole thing. But it doesn't need to be
this complicated, and maybe we need to take a whole
different approach to how we raise this money, administer this money,
(09:42):
and begin to get people into housing.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I have some of my own thoughts. That's coming
up next.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Lou Penrose if John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 3 (10:01):
Lou Penrose Iva John Cobelt on the John Covelt Show.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So look a major story.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The US Attorney billy Is Saley announcing today arrest and
criminal charges two separate cases involving fraudum issuse of public
money intended to combat homelessness, literally stealing money from Project
home Key, which is public funding for the motel to
housing conversion process, to accompany Shangri law industries. That gets
(10:31):
me so good for the good guys, Good for the
US Attorney's Office. I don't know why we would not
see representatives from the Board of Supervisors. They're standing shoulder
to shoulder with law enforcement. I know they're on different
political sides with respect to the President of the.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
United States, but this is law and order.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And we have been fighting and fighting and fighting in
Los Angeles County, fighting and fighting and fighting everywhere.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
In California to combat homelessness.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And one of the ways to do it is to
get those who are qualified to live in some kind
of shelter, whether it's motel or housing, to get them
in there quickly. And there's a lot of criticism of
the housing first model, and I understand where that criticism
comes from.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I do know this having worked on.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Homeless outreach committees for the United Way, and I did
some private consulting, and I work with private apartment owners,
and not every homeless person is the same. And homelessness
is complicated, but it's not. And I'll explain what that
(11:46):
means and why I just said it. It's complicated because
there's many layers to it. But the solution to teach
one of those layers is pretty easy. When we do
these point in time counts, when we do these studies,
when we contract with people, or when voluntary organizations from
universities go and study our homeless population.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
We all reach the same conclusions.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that is it's pretty much three different communities, three
different categories of homeless. There is absolute mental illness, like literally,
people that are a five dollars Copaid generic you know,
(12:31):
medicine for manic depression, away from being normal like you
and me, hold a.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Job, have a house, have a family.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
They lose access to that medicine or for whatever reason,
go off their meds and now they're a homeless person
screaming at a lampost I mean literally, we could solve
a third of the homeless problem with just very inexpensive
psychotropics that are available on the market.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Then you get into people who literally just.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Became homeless, like have only been homeless for six months
for a very short period of time, and prior to
that had apartments and cars and jobs, and something happened.
It could have been just a life event that was overwhelming,
or a series of events in their life perfect storm.
You probably had some of those in your life where
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just everything is happening at the same time and it's
all bad, and some individuals just could not handle it
and cave to the pressure and there was no family around,
or they got sideways with their family. But they already
know how to live on their own, They already know
how to get up and go to work, They already
know how to have rent money, but they just don't
(13:46):
have it anymore, can't get it anymore, and are probably
a little depressed too, and probably tired by the way.
Women make up a large portion of that second like
trifurcation that I just did. And if you can't sleep
because you're worried because you're a woman and you're homeless,
you will start to feel crazy very quickly, and it's
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a real pity. And we can help these people and should,
but they're easy to help, Like these are people that
you you give them an opportunity to get into a
motel room or a not a shelter so much, but
a private.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Space where they could bolt the door.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Behind them and take a shower, and quickly they can
recover with help.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And then the other third are just.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Really people like they're the wor the lowest of the
low with respect to our ability to recover them.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
They they are either.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They just are resistant. They are insistent on being abum.
They refuse, they refuse treatment. They don't want to not
be homeless anymore. And these are tough cases, and even
social workers will tell you these are the hard case.
The last ten percent of your caseload. If you were
able to solve one hundred percent of your caseload as
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a social worker in this in this space, the last
ten percent is where you're going to spend eighty percent
of your time. But now you're down to only a
third of the homeless left, but one hundred percent of
the social workers and one hundred percent of the shelters
and spaces available to help, so we could really attack
the problem and really.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Get at it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So like just pouring money into the situation is not
working it. Where there is lots of government money, there
will be crooks. Sometimes even people from legitimate business worlds
will all of a sudden decide, you know what, no
one's looking, no one cares. There's so much money coming in,
and if I don't take it, somebody else will. And
(15:52):
if I take it, there'll be more tomorrow. Nobody will
ever notice, and sometimes that does. I'm not saying that's
what's happened here, but that's at least what some of
the charges are and some of the stories. So those
credit cards were paid off with public moneys, there's no
question about that.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We'll get to know more about that in the days
and weeks to come, and keep you posted.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt
Show on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt this week talking about
this major story US attorney Billy A Sale today and
other federal LA enforcement officials announced the arrest and criminal
charges in two separate cases, fraud and misuse of public
money for homelessness, literally stealing money out of Project Home Key,
(16:44):
falsifying financial records, buying buildings designed for the homeless and
then selling them at millions of dollars of profit, taking
money that was intended for motel to housing conversions and
using it to payoff personal credit cards.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
It makes your blood boil.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But my experience is sorry, So two things can be
true at the same time. Number one, you cannot solve
mental illness while somebody is sleeping on.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
A park bench. You can't.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
You can't solve a drug addiction in mental illness while
somebody is in a tent on the sidebalk.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So they have to be somewhere, whether that's in a hospital,
in an institution.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Which I have always advocated. If I advocated for.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I would argue, you can't solve mental illness and a
shelter either, but at least they're not on the street.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But there has to be.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You can say housing first, you can say shelter first.
You can say accommodations first. There has to be a
place where the individual who is being helped can go
and safely lock the door behind them. That's true in
my opinion. Number two, Money doesn't solve the problem. And
the more money you throw out, more opportunity there is
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for some shister to steal it out of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Money doesn't solve the problem. And here's why.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
You pick a homeless person for me. Point out a
homeless person for me anywhay, Just pick a random homeless person.
Let's give him first and last month's rent plus a
security deposit, and guess what. In ninety days, they'll be
just as homeless. So it has nothing to do with money.
I'm tired of paying taxes to the last segment of
thieves that keeps stealing it and taking it and stealing it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't want to work no more. I understand where
that comes from.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I totally agree, though on the homeless analysis she gave
right on spot on.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, of course I'm spot on.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But they have made it far more complicated with setting
up all these nonprofits and then government money is funded
through sends money to the nonprofits and the nonprofits higher consultants,
and then they engage with people in the private and
public sector of housing and all of a SUDD where
I broadcast from Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
In San Diego at Kogo.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The county was giving more money to a hotel operator
out in Kearney, Mesa. And the hotel operator was it
was all homeless people. They're putting the homeless people in
the motel, and the motel owner was charging more to
the county or to whatever nonprofit the county funneled money
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to than the rack rate of the motel.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So you would never go to these motels, trust me.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
But back in the day when people actually could take
a family to a motel, what that person would pay
for a motel room instead of giving a discount to
the county, the county was overpaid like by a lot,
not like one hundred and ten percent, like two hundred
percent of the rack rate of the hotel.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So the hotel operator.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Was happy, the county it wasn't you know the nonprofit money,
it's money is money. They have no connection the money
because the money is just given to them from the
county or whatever grant they applied for or whatever. And
they wrecked the hotels and they're not fixed.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
They're not helped.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
They don't answer the door when the social worker comes.
Some of them were engaging in prostitution in there. There's
certainly drug use, and it just became a huge blight
to the rest of the people that had to live
or work or business is near this once functioning motel.
So you cannot just if you want to say housing first,
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then you better tell me what second right away, like
that very afternoon. As soon as the homeless person is
moved into quote housing, then by noon that day whatever
is second after housing first has to go into effect.
Otherwise we're just wreckon motel rooms. Public money is being wasted,
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the homeless are not being helped, our quality of life diminishes,
and at some point the gravy train runs out or
the hotel gets condemned, where somebody starts a fire and
the whole thing burns down and they're all back on
the streets.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
So it has to be sheltering of some kind.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And I'm not necessarily talking about a Salvation Army homeless shelter,
although the Salvation Army are doing their part. But it
has to be mental health evaluation and care, and it
has to be compulsory. See, we used to have insane
asylums back in the day.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You can call them mental health institutions.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You can call them the nervous hospital like Billy Bob
Thornton did.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You can do whatever you want to call them. Great
big gray.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Buildings with bars on the window, beds inside, with nurse ratchet.
We used to have that, and that's where these people
went until they were good enough to be out on
the street.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Again, we don't have that anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And there's a whole history as to why we don't
have that, and I've heard all the libertarian arguments. But
what we have now is we have one flew over
the cuckoo's nest inside out, like down to like six
in la Is, one flew out of the cuckoo's nest,
just in the reverse. There is no nurse, there are
no beds, but the insane asylum is inside out.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
On our city streets.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's the same insane asylum, except instead of walking the
corridors of the insane asylum, they're walking our corridors of society.
So we haven't really changed that much. The homeless are
really still committed in their own minds because they're not
getting help. They're not committed in an institution where they
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would be getting help. But the homeless are just as
jailed because they're ill and in the rain.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So one day we'll get it right.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But at least today we got the bad guys who
had their hand in the cookie jar Lou Penrose. If
John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Forty talking about this major arrest and filing of criminal
chargers against two individuals misusing public funds that was intended
to combat homelessness here in California, ceiling from the state's
Project Home Key program. Yeah, it doesn't ding bat Newsom
say housing first, so he's obviously to blame too.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I do know this that when Gavin Newsom was mayor
of the City and County of San Francisco, there was homeless,
and now there's more homeless, so he doesn't know how
to solve homeless. There was less homeless in twenty ten
in Los Angeles than there is now. There was almost
no homeless in twenty ten in San Francisco, and there
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was no homeless in Sacramento or relatively none.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
There was a whino here and there.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So something has changed, and that's a completely different conversation
and probably uncomfortable conversation for our society. But we can
have that conversation another time. Something has unraveled. Back in
the day, homelessness or complete poverty in American society in
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a major American city meant you either really did something wrong,
you gambled away the rent money, you're a drunk and
an idiot, and now you're on the cold heart smet
or like something just happened and you were begging for
money and you were trying to get back on your feet.
(24:39):
Like back in the day, people didn't want to be homeless.
Now I don't think people that are homeless want to
be homeless, but they act like they want to be homeless.
They resist help, they resist sobriety, they resist care, they
resist moving to a shelter, if that shelter has conditions.
(25:01):
That's very new. We have not seen that in the past.
And I suspect as a society we don't.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Have the emotional.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Or mental capacity to comprehend why any American, why any
Angelina would rather spend the night in the rain than
go to a shelter. But the condition of the shelter is, Look,
you can't drink here, and you've got to be sober.
We're trying to help you. Right, many people say, no,
(25:31):
you know what, I'm going to stay where I am.
I got some cardboard boxes. The rain will eventually stop.
I know the seven to eleven that lets me use
the restroom, and I got a whole little system here, Like,
we're not able to comprehend that because those of us
that are housed, we don't want to be in the rain.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So we think they don't want to be in the rain.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And we're arguing with again mental illness, or we're arguing
with drug addiction or a level of depression that is very,
very new.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All I want to know is am I going to
get my money back?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
You're not, but you'll get your treasure in heaven. Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
So, former Speaker of the House and current California Congresswoman
Nancy Pelosi had a run in with a reporter yesterday
and it really got ugly and it went sideways. This
is now a string of California Democrats who are losing
it with journalists. Which it depending on.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Where you how you feel about age and crotchetiness.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
It might be an issue of age, or it might
be an issue of California.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Democrats don't like.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
This new brand of journalism that is being unfolded upon them.
You now have the Ashley Zavalas of the world from
CACRA and Sacramento. You saw the reporter that went up
against Katie Porter and followed up the question three times
on whether or not we'd see any more of these videos,
and Porter just refuse to answer. It's happening to Gavin Newsom,
(27:05):
believe it or not. You see it happened to Democrats
on the Hill in DC, and now you hear it
happening to former Speaker Pelosi who just does not want
follow up questions.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Anymore and shouted at the reporter, shut up.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I did not refuse the national guard. The president didn't
send it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Oh boy, tells the reporter to shut up. Into the microphone.
It wasn't an under the breath comment. It wasn't a
hot mic comment. It was into the microphone.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Shut up.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
I did not refuse the national Guard. The President didn't
send it.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So when we get back from following the news at
two o'clock, we'll talk with the Hills Ashley Fields. There's
a new January sixth commission that has been put together
by Congressman Barry luden Milk Ludermilk Ludmilk of Georgia. New
Select Committee. It's under the House to just share committee.
They're going to look at then Speaker Pelosis roll in
(28:03):
January sixth. So now the shoe was on the other foot,
and you thought the whole January sixth thing was over
and the investigation was over.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Now they're starting it all over again.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
But now Republicans are in charge, and they're saying that
the Nancy Pelosi had the ability to call in the
National Guard and quell the uprising and catch the Viking
guy with the hat and the spear, and he should
should have never been inside the Capitol. Where is that
Viking guide? By the way, that's the that's the image
(28:33):
that comes to mind whenever I hear of January sixth.
That's the difference between me and I think Trump hating Democrats,
Trump hating Democrats see the insurrection, and all I can
see is that Viking guy with the face paint uh
and the uh in the water buffalo lodge from the
flintstones that that hat on and the and the horns
(28:53):
and the spear, and also the other guy.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
There's two. There's two real iconic images of.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
January sixth that's on my mind, and that is the
Viking guy and he's always flanked by the other guy.
It looks like the lead singer from the eighties southern
rock band thirty eight Special.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So the lead singer from thirty eight Special on the
Viking Guide.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
They're going to come back into the public news as
this new select committee established to look into Pelosi's role,
and as I said, Speaker Pelosi did not like the
line of question. Daing Congers on Pelosi, are you at
all concerned that the new January sixth.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Committee will find you wiable to that?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Why did you refuse the National Guard on January sixth?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Shut up?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't
send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking
points as if you're as a serious journal.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
The American people want to know we still have questions.
Thank you? Oh boy? All right, So when we come back,
we'll talk with Ashley Field.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
She's with the Hill and she'll give us an update
on Nancy Pelosi. Also, Senator Mitch McConnell took a spill today.
It might be time to revisit Termine. It's all coming
up next on The John Covelt Show. Lou Penrose info
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