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May 30, 2025 34 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (05/30) - John brings on Chris LeGras to break down Senate Bill 79’s push to bulldoze single-family neighborhoods for high-density housing—powered by Big Real Estate’s donations to Sen. Scott Weiner. John and Chris also cover the shocking whistleblower claims from Staycee Dains about horrific conditions at LA’s animal shelters: record dog euthanasia rates and staffing in chaos. Meanwhile, civil rights groups are suing Riverside County to kill cash bail—Sheriff Bianco calls it a love affair with criminals. And gas prices could hit $8.50 next year, with Democratic Assemblymember Jasmeet Bains demanding California Air Resources Board head Liane Randolph resign for ignoring how “clean air” rules crush consumers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Saturday.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah, listening to you all weekend long, that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Absolutely, that's right.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
We're gonna talk with Chris Lagra here, and you know what,
as soon as we're done with Chris, we will get
into this the state of the Los Angeles animal shelters.
It is so heartbreaking, so disgusting. Honestly, I'm worried I'm
gonna get you too upset I listen to.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Be honest, I may walk out because I.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Need you to talk to me about it. Oh yeah,
So Okay, because you have so much passion about it,
say you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, But the thing is we need to do something.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, I know, I know, and and did these these
animal shelters. You know what, Karen Bass has an animal
shelter system that the only thing that it does efficiently
is murder the dogs and cats. They are euthanizing at
record rates.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
All those people need to be fired, John, Seriously, let's
fire them all.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
There's people that are looking for jobs.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Let's hire those people that love animals and get rid
of these.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's part of the problem is that the woman who
is running the shelter, the whole system, she couldn't fire
anybody stupid. The union would step in and protect anybody
who is.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
How can you protect somebody that's that's so awful. I
know you want to get We're going to wait to
talk about this.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
But that makes zero sense.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's why you can't go and run Wager. I'm so angry,
Chris Lagraz coming on now, this is going to make
you angry too. If you have a house in a
single family neighborhood. According to this new bill from that
evil jerk Scott Wiener, this communist weirdo out of San Francisco,

(02:22):
who hates people who live in single family homes, hates them.
He's got a bill that the city would be required
to approve buildings as tall as ten stories high ten
stories high in a single family neighborhood if the development
is within a half mile of a bus stop. And
you know, if you live within a half mile of

(02:43):
a main boulevard, you're within a lot of bus stops.
It would destroy life as we know it here in
southern California and the whole state. Let's get to Chris Lagrian, Chris.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Hey, John, Well, that's the most depressing intro I've ever gotten.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm sorry to connect you to the to the dog abuse,
but there's a lot of crazy stuff going on. We're
in like a whole new twilight zone period of California.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Every day we don't have It's the point where we
can't even get puppies right anymore. It's really it's really shameful. Well, yeah,
this bill, it's SB seventy nine, and it is. It
is the worst housing bill since since SB fifty eight
years ago, which which you know, God God bless in
the grassroots got together and killed SB fifty and because

(03:33):
Wiener has turned out this. You sort of view this
as him trying to light the place on fire, forgive
the metaphor, on his way out the door. And you're
absolutely right. It would require la Cities around the state
would have no option as long as they're within a
quarter mile or a half mile of a bus stop.
And there's a couple of tiers that frankly are irrelevant.
We don't need to go down into those weeds, because

(03:55):
we know what the ultimate objective is is that if
you're within a half mile of a bus stop, with
very few exceptions and limitations, your neighborhood is directly in
the crosshairs, and none of it would be affordable, none
of it would be livable, no setbacks, no green space.
Imagine how many trees they'd be chopping down, how many
gardens and green spaces they'll be tearing up. And you

(04:19):
know they want us all to live in these Soviet
style glass and concrete and steel hell holes, and we
won't have cars. We'll be relying on the bus, so
we'll be playing a Russian roulette every time we want
to go out and get a cup of coffee on
Metro these days, by the way, so that you love
the fact that metros spent millions of dollars installing shields
for their drivers, but not for us.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, they don't care if people die in their buses
and trains.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
It doesn't matter to them, right they can still Yeah, exactly.
So you know, there are some technicalities, and again they're
not even really worth getting into because we're.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Is another day though, because what people need to know
is there could if somebody sells out in the neighborhood,
a developer could come in and build a ten story
apartment building right next door, right across the street, and
that could be done over and over again if they're
within this half mile range of a bus stop.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
And there's another little detail, which is developers because they
have such great relationships with these transit agencies these days,
like Metro, which people really need to understand that transit
agencies have become planning departments. Metro and we have this
verified from the inside John. Metro will actually move a
bus stop a couple of blocks so that the property

(05:43):
in question of the developer wants to develop under existing
so called transit oriented developments incentives falls within that range.
And then as soon as all the plans are approved
and the building breaks ground, metro moves a stop back
to where it was.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Are some Democrats who are pushing back on this?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Are there enough?

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well? Perfect question, John, and this is the call to action.
Everybody listening right now, please please please call or email
your state senator because there is a lot of pushback.
I heard from a state senator just a couple of
days ago who said that Wiener is worried that he
does not have the votes. There's a Democrat, she's an

(06:28):
absolute star. Her name is Aisho Wahabb. She's from up
and Hay with up in the East Bay in the
Bay Area. She's actually chair of the Housing Committee and
she voted no on this in committee. She voted no
on this in appropriations and she's one of the leaders
leading the fight against this bill. And she's a liberal Democrat.
So this is the time for people to make those calls.

(06:49):
It takes literally fifteen seconds. You can actually call after
hours and just leave a voicemail. If you don't want
to talk to one of these dopey staffers, you can
just call and leave a voicemail. It takes literally thirty seconds.
Fifteen seconds. You can dash off an email and I'm
here to tell you it works. These senators, these lawmakers
are feeling the pressure. We know there are several Democrats

(07:12):
who are definite nos. And so now is the time
for maximum pressure, because if we can defeat this bill
in the Senate, Wiener is badly wounded. He's already badly
wounded because he's had to amend this thing five times
over all this opposition.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Why is he so crazy against people who live in
the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
What's the obsession here?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
He is bought and paid for by day real estate.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
If you look at it, say that again, Say that again,
because you're thumb blipped out.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
He is bought and paid for by big real estate.
This has nothing to do with affordability, nothing to do
with sustainability. He is an errand boy for the biggest,
most unscrupulous real estate developers in the state and in
the country. And that's provable by his campaigned donations. He
by by tens of thousands of dollars in every election,

(08:06):
takes more than any other senator, any other lawmaker, from
these real estate developers. And then he turns around and
he writes bills that that if they pass, you know,
just line in their pockets.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It really is, and his cover story is always the
environment and climate change.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
He's a progress He's not a progressive. I don't know
what he is. He's a Chinese style capitalist, is what
he is. And he has bought and paid for and
he's very effective because, frankly, a lot of voters, you know,
they they see a guy who's LGBTQ and who's otherwise progressive,
and they can't possibly comprehend that he's actually not one
of them. He has weaponized his own identity and he's

(08:45):
been very effective at it. But the reality is he is.
He's ought into for as a lot of well.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's always a water boy for these real estate interests.
This is just is just corruption.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
This is.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
All the story in the in the Guard corruption.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
It's demonstrably failing every place. I mean, look at Santa Monica.
Santa Monica has been pursuing this stack and pack bus
oriented density for twenty five years. It's one of the
least affordable cities in the state and it has one
of the highest vacancy rates in the state. So Santa
Monica approves that this doesn't work. You've got thousands of

(09:23):
empty units in these brand new glass and steel buildings, downtown.
They're offering two, three, four months of free rent, gym memberships,
VIPA cash cards just to try to entice warm bodies
in the door. So we can see that this on
top of everything else, the corruption and the destruction of neighborhoods,
it's a proven failure.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know, one week it seems they want to legalize
buying teenagers for sex. You know, the next week gasoline
is going to eight to fifty. Now they're trying to
destroy single family neighborhoods with these gigantic apartment towers. Why
do they want to destroy everything? They want to destroy kids,

(10:06):
they want to destroy why.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
I you know, my one man's opinion is that it's
ultimately all about power, because if we do end up
living in these dense stack and pack concrete hell holes
dependent on transit, what freedoms do we have left will
be dependent on the big tech companies to deliver everything
to us. We'll be dependent on waymo and buses to

(10:31):
get around. We'll get most of our entertainments streaming through Netflix,
do most of our socializing on Facebook. And I think
it's all about power and profit. I think they want
a captive audience. And Scott Wiener is doing everything he
can to deliver it to and may developers countless billions
in the process.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
He's evil, all right, Chris, I know you'll stay on
top of this.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Please let us know.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Please call Ray and tell us if there's any advancement
for this horrible, evil bill.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
I will again just really quickly. Please please, everybody listening,
you can just google who is my California state Senator.
Take that thirty seconds to shoot the email or make
the call. It is making a difference.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
We can beat this thing, all right, Thanks Chris, Chris Leagra.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
He's a journalist and he's covering Scott Sweeners. Just I mean,
that guy's just a human bowel movement. He is the
worst out of all of them up there. He is
the worst.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And it would require cities to approve anytime some developer
comes in and wants to build a ten story apartment
building in your single family neighborhood. The only requirement that
matters is whether it's a half mile from a bus stop.

Speaker 7 (11:39):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And we had the Moistline coming up next hour eight
seven seven Moist steady six eight seven seven, moist st
eighty six At what is it? Three twenty and three fifty,
We're going to play this week's calls. Okay, here's the
animal shelters story, and I'm morning up front. Nobody's going
to be happy with this La Time story. In June

(12:07):
of twenty twenty three, Karen Bass hired Stacy Danes to
oversee the La City Animal Shelters. There's a lot of
bad press. Dogs were living in overcrowded and dirty kennels.
Volunteers said the animals weren't getting food and water, severe
understaffing employees who were mistreating or neglecting the animals. This

(12:32):
was going on two years ago and it's still going on.
And now say Stacey Danes is quit because she claims
she can't get anybody to cooperate. So employees are still
mistreating animals, neglecting animals. And she was told by the
personnel department, which is like human resources, that she couldn't

(12:54):
fire problem employees. Why a lot of it has to
do with the union. Union would step in and say
you can't do that, but of.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Course you can fire somebody that's abusing animals.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
That makes no sense. The union is that's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
As the overcrowding worsened.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
According to the Times, more dogs and cats were euthanized
in city shelters under Stacy Danes than in the preceding years.
So she came in to reform the place, and they
started killing more dogs and cats. Dane says, we need
to tell the unfiltered, unvarnished truth about what's happening in
the shelters. It's pretty gross. After a year, she went

(13:32):
on paid leave and then she was fired by Karen
Das or allowed to resign before the firing date. The
mayor is underfunding animal services. They had requested a fifty
six percent increase, they got eighteen percent, and then the

(13:56):
next year they got their budget cut. So Karen Bass
doesn't care. You know how bad the understaffing is. And
Danes has had top shelter jobs in San Jose and
Long Beach. She said all the employees are desensitized to
the animals suffering. The understaffing was so bad that three

(14:17):
people were responsible for five hundred dogs. That meant they
had to clean the kennels, set up adoptions, and work
with the medical team for five hundred dogs. H and
Danes said, I couldn't sleep knowing that these animals were
in these hell holes suffering. This is the Los Angeles

(14:38):
Animal Shelter.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
She said she saw employees terrorizing the dogs, banging on
their kennels, spraying them with water to move them back.
She told the employees stop the behavior, but the employee
said they'd been trained to treat the dogs that way.
Danes wanted to start a schedule to keep track of
when the animals were fed and their enclosures cleaned, but

(15:04):
uh employees wouldn't do it because the union stepped in
and said, well, that information is going to be used
to punish people, so she had to drop the proposal.
This is the Laborer's International Union of North America Local
three hundred. Apparently they support abusing dogs and cats. Oh
it gets worse. Some supervisors had sexual relationships with their

(15:28):
john with their subordinates.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh, I thought you were going to say, with the animals. Sorry, wow,
I'm on edge already.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Little miss dirty mind there, No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I'm just I'm just pissed off at what's happening. So
I assume that that's what you're going to talk about. Okay,
I'm sorry for interrupting.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, anyway, it might have been true. I mean, if
it was true, then I would have to you.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Know, Yeah, I know, but it wasn't or we don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
But apparently everyone's screwing with each other, so the supervisors
would overlook poor work performance. Well, there's one way to
keep your job. Uh, probably the oldest way. Other employees
used the dirt they had on coworkers to protest when

(16:12):
they were confronted about their own bad behavior. It's like, hey,
you come after me, I know who you're screwing. Employees
were sleeping during the night shifts. According to Danes, instead
of cleaning the cages, employees spent a lot of time
watching videos on their phones porn well to get them

(16:35):
in the mood to molest their coworker. People who walked
into the shelter trying to adopt they were they were ignored.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, so that I don't understand, because I've heard that,
and I've actually had listeners send me messages about stuff
like that. Why in the world would you ever prevent
somebody from coming in and looking at animals in.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
The hopes that they're going to be adopted.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't know the.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Daniel Guss, who's a journalist we've had on many times.
He says this, this column is luke warm and late. Uh,
this is full of long overdue partial truths. He says,
it's much worse than they even printed in the Times.

(17:29):
Dakoda Smith is the writer, and I know he's an
animal activist as well.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
He is, and he wrote.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
He wrote to Mayor Bass's office saying, uh, I wrote,
I brought these issues to you dozens of times, and
people were demonstrably lying about conditions, corruption and killing.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
What do we have to do?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
The youthanized dogs up seventy two percent.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
And puppies and healthy puppies are being euthanized puppies.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, Endens.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Bass is Danes's boss, but Danes's made contact with Jacqueline Hamilton,
Deputy mayor of Neighborhood Services. Another complete loser. Apparently we're
coming up.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Forty every day from one to four and after four
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We're only halfway through. I feel like We've done three
shows worth of material today and there is so much
more to come. We're gonna get right away. This just
came out.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
There is a.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Group of civil rights organizations trying to end the cash
bail system in Riverside County.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, that is back.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
If you remember, the jackass, destructive progressive holes in the
legislature tried to end cash bail in California back in
twenty eighteen, and everybody was against this, accept the Democratic Legislature,
and the voters overturned it with a referendum in twenty twenty.

(19:17):
It was Prop twenty five, and Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco,
who's running for governor as a Republican, he was part
of the official opposition that year to get the resident
to get the referendum passed. So cash bail is still
the legal policy in California. But a civil rights group,

(19:39):
well actually the whole collection of them, filed a lawsuit
on Wednesday challenging Riverside County's use of cash bail. They're
claiming squalid conditions inside the county jails, claiming dozens of
inmates have died there in recent years. Well, we're gonna
have Chad Bianco on the Riverside County Ship.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
How are you, Chad?

Speaker 6 (20:02):
And I'm doing very good? How are you? John?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
What's this about?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
They say the conditions are horrific inside your jails. Dozens
of inmates have died, and that by forcing inmates to
deal with cash bail, they can't afford to get out
and it ends up being a bad scene for them
because they don't have the money.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well, the entire thing is a complete lie, and anyone
with common sense knows it's a complete lie. And it's
just a furtherance of this crazy liberal agenda and their
love affair with criminals that they believe that absolutely no
one should be held accountable and it's I mean, it's

(20:45):
just over the top. Well, and then you add in
what's happening now and they come out with these allegations.
So the sad thing for real people is that in
these lawsuits, attorneys can lie through their teeth, knowing that
they're eyeing through their teeth, and they fall back on
a phrase on information and belief and that absolves them

(21:08):
from any type of wrongdoing because they're just saying that
someone told them that. So these allegations of these horrendous
conditions are an absolute lie. The jails are completely monitored
by not only US, monitored by the state, by DOJ,
by BSCC. It is just these horrendous allegations to put
negative press out. So, I mean, who we know they

(21:32):
hate me just because Riverside County believes I'm a great sheriff.
So of course the liberals have to hate me. And
then as we're moving forward and California is deciding, hey,
he might make a good governor, now they have to
come out with other things, with lawsuits and allegations and
all these horrific things, when the reality is the bottom
line for this and all of California knows it. If

(21:54):
you can't afford to pay bail, I probably wouldn't commit
a crime.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah. I don't see why why the bail issues a problem.
Don't commit crimes and you don't have to deal with this,
You don't end up in jail, you don't end up
awaiting your trial. They seem to focus on deaths in
the jails. What's that story about.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well, the people die. Every single day. People die, and
that's the one thing that we all have in common.
We're going to die, and we don't get to pick
the day, and we don't get to pick the location.
So no one. No one is dying because they are
in jail. They died while they are in jail, and
for normal custodial situations, they die from natural causes. They

(22:39):
die from suicides, they die from drug overdoses, and once
in a while, you know another inmate, they may die
form a homicide. But it's been going it's the same
and averages are about the same in the history of corrections.
But it's becoming an election season. It's becoming something an
emotional thing that they can get fired up about, and

(23:01):
the ACLU always gets involved, these special interest groups that
are truly what is controlling Sacramento and our lawmakers. They
just continue in their destruction of California, making up things
so they can have something to report in the media.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm just astonished by their commitment to destroying our way
of life, and it seems to have dozens of issues
all going on at the same time that they're all
fanatical about it, and every one of them has horrific
consequences for normal people.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Absolutely, John I had a conversation with an ACLU attorney
a few years ago, and I truly was trying to
be friends and how can we work together, and how
can we make things right and everything else, and the
answer was, we will never be friends until you have
no one in jail. If you let out all of
your inmates, then we can be friends. And so I
kicked them out of my office and said thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And everyone he wants, everyone do not want.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yes, they do not believe that anyone should go to jail.
And that is the agenda right now of our lawmakers. Well, yeah,
that is what's happening in Sacramento with the far left,
the progressive left that's controlling Sacramento, headed by our governor
and just as importantly are completely failed and embarrassing attorney general.

(24:25):
That is the mission in California is to empty all
jails in prison.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you say that to somebody, like an average person,
they roll their eyes and they think you're just full
of hyperbole and conspiracy theories. But that is their belief system,
it really is. And they fund most of the politicians
in Sacramento, including Newsoman Bonta. So Newsom and Banta are
saluting because that's that's how they get paid.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Absolutely, John, and it's not just a conspiracy theory. It's
not Schad Bianco saying this. This is what they say
in their committee hearings. This is their outward verbal statement
that unfortunately people like you are the only ones reporting it.
The mainstream repeata isn't the mainstream media is not going
to report it. But they know about it.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
No, they don't do anything anymore. They don't cover anything.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I've got like half a dozen major issues on the
show today that there's absolutely no coverage from from the
LA Times or any of the television stations. So we're
working all by ourselves here. Chad, thank you very much
for coming on and let us know how this one goes,
all right, and good luck, absolutely good luck with your campaign.
Chad Bianco. He's the Riverside County Sheriff's Riverside County sheriff,

(25:37):
and he's running for governor as a Republican, and now
he's dealing with a bunch of civil rights groups suing
to end cash bail in Riverside County. That's already been decided.
It was decided by a state referendum a few years ago,
so that was supposed to be a dead issue. But
of course it's not all right. When we come back
something else I want to get to before we run
out of time. There's another Democrat that's a awakened in

(26:00):
the legislature and wants the head of the California Air
Resources Board to resign.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
This is quite a story.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, we got a report from Ashley Zavalla from Channel
three and Sacramento. You have to go what five hundred
miles to find a television station that covers what's important
in your life.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Here in LA.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Two runs of The Moist Line. Next hour, we're also
going to have Carl Demile on. And it looks like
the progressive destructive a holes in Sacramento have just passed
a bill to allow illegal aliens to count ballots at
our elections. Not making that one up, but that's coming
up in fifteen minutes right now. The crackpot jackass progressive

(26:48):
Democrats finally have realized that they went way too far
with their climate change obsession and now gas is headed
for a fIF They believe Michael Bache's study from USC
that gas could be eight to fifty by the end
of next year. Two refineries closing California Air Resources Board

(27:10):
has come up with a new fuel standard, and the
head of the California Air Resources Board yesterday and the CEC,
the California Energy Commission, they got roasted by a number
of Democrats. Well it continues. They had a hearing yesterday.
Here's a Democratic assembly Woman, Jazzmy Baines from Delano. Well

(27:31):
today she would like the head of the California Air
Resources Board to resign. The head is named Leanne Randolph.
And we have Ashley Zavalla from Channel three and Sacramento
with the news story.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
Those new clean air rules are also known as the
updates to the state's low carbon Fuel Standards, and the
California Air Resources Board approved them days after the November election. Now,
as we first reported earlier this week, California's Office of
Administrative Law notified the board that the new rules do
not meet state standards, specifically stating there's an issue with

(28:09):
the clarity and that there was an incorrect procedure involved. Now,
the Low Carbon Fuel Standard update specifically aims to cut
transportation related carbon emissions in California by thirty percent within
the next five years, and that puts new cost pressures
on the oil and gas industry. CARB has acknowledged the

(28:30):
industry will likely pass those costs onto consumers at the
gas pump, but ahead of their vote refused to say
or analyze just by how much. Now we don't know
why the Office of Administrative Law blocked this from going
into effect. Specifically, as of right now, we are still
waiting for the OAL to release its letter detailing what

(28:51):
exactly is wrong with the low Carbon Fuel Standards. I'm
told that letter is expected to be out by Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Of next week.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Now, in a statement, Folksman Dave klegger And said this
was a routine disapproval on technical grounds, not on the
merit of the regulation. He went on to say CARB
anticipates receiving more information from OL detailing its reasons for
the decision soon. They went on to say, quote, we
will refine the language per OL's guidance and resubmit for approval.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Today.

Speaker 8 (29:19):
I interviewed Dean Flores, who was one of two CARB
members to reject the updated low Carbon Fuel Standards. Here's
what he had to say in response to all of this.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
It's rare, and so there's something in what we sent
that did not match up to a point. But this
was actually stopped a forced time out, if you will,
and I'm anxiously looking forward to getting what their prescription
is to see if we can actually correct it meet
it in one hundred and twenty days. No one knows

(29:49):
what's going to be in that.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It may just be technical, it may not, but I.

Speaker 9 (29:54):
Do know that it did cause a pause and a
discussion and once again on whether or not this was
actually really good policy, or whether or not we should
be doing something completely different.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
So again we're still waiting on those full details from
the Office of Administrative Law. I've been told there was
an expectation it would be released by the end of
business today. That does not seem to be the case
at this point. But once KRB has that information, it
will have one hundred and twenty days to correct it.
Any major changes will require public input.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
All right, So the sixty five cent gallon increase is
on pause for maybe one hundred and twenty days. Some
procedural problems. So that's the way I read that story,
sixty five cent increase pause. Here's what Jazz meet Bain said.
CARB has been given so much power they were prepared
to ban gas and diesel cars and trucks single handedly

(30:45):
it is outrageous the director would pursue such policies without
even trying to analyze the impact on prices. KARB needs
a leader who understands that Californians are struggling to make
ends meet. When we make people poor, we make people
less healthy. KARB cannot continue to treat working families that
cannot afford to pay eight dollars for a gallon of

(31:07):
gas as an inconvenience. Yes, and Zavalla went on to say,
KARB is an unelected group of sixteen members, twelve appointed
by the governor confirmed by the state Senate. LeAnn Randolph
was appointed in twenty twenty. Her term expires next year.
And so now we're getting word is that is that

(31:31):
that decision to raise the price sixty five cents a
gallon to implement new field standards has been delayed, perhaps
up to four months. And this LeAnn Randolph admitted yesterday
that KARB does not analyze how clean air rules could
impact costs for people across the state. LeAnn Randolph told

(31:55):
an Assemblyman David Alvarez, another Democrat, correct, we don't analyze
a retail cost. What we don't do is take the
next step to extrapolate how that cost would flow to
the consumer, because that would be speculative.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
So they are admitting they approve.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
A new fuel standard without even investigating or asking or
telling us what the increase is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
They don't care.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
And then it was up to Michael mcche, the USC professor,
to say, well, that's going to cost sixty.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Five cents a gallon for everybody.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
And then this uh Jasmine Baines, an assembly woman, finally
woke up and said, well, wait.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Wait a second.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Poor people can't afford that, well, most people can't afford that.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Only the rich can.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
The middle class, in the working class, and the poor
can't afford any of this crap. And eight, you know,
this is just sixty five cents. They can't afford the
five and six dollars gas that we have now. By
the way, Eric Sclear has been on a trip the
last couple of days. He sent us photos as soon
as he crossed the state line into Arizona. Let me

(33:09):
find those. Just give me a second here, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
here we go. Okay. He paid two ninety four a
gallon in Quartsville, Arizona. That's right over the state line.
He said he couldn't snap a picture in time, but
one of the first signs that he saw in Arizona

(33:30):
right as we cross the state line was welcome Californians.
Just don't California are Arizona.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
That was funny.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Four a gallon right over the border. I think Quartzite
is one of the first big towns you hit as
you go down to Interstate den two ninety four. Meantime,
we're paying a friend of mine, a friend of another
friend of mine. To my friends, they send me pictures
of gas prices all day. Okay at Beverly and Law

(34:01):
He sent me a picture regular six nineteen, a gallon
six nineteen at Beverly and Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Court site just over the border is two ninety four.
And now we have one assembly woman who's awakened and said, hey,
poor people can't afford this. Yeah, yeah, you're right, absolutely right.
Welcome jazzmec Baines to reality. Thank you for coming. But

(34:29):
there is good news in that it looks like, at
least for now, maybe some momentum could build to stop
this thing entirely. The sixty five cent increase is going
to be on hold for a few months, we'll have
more of this on Monday.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Hey, you've been listening to the John Covelt Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
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