November 18, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (11/18) - Attorney Roger Behle comes on the show to talk about the State of CA’s lawyer telling a judge that Palisades Fire victims’ claim of a State Park rep being at the Lachman Burn Scar is “ridiculous” when one of Behle's clients has a picture of the State Park rep with firefighters on January 1st. CA Attorney General Rob Bonta allegedly used campaign funds for legal help amid a bribery probe. New information has been released on the would-be Pres. Trump assassin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. That's
the podcast and that gets released just after four o'clock.
It's the same as the radio show. You can hear
what you missed last hour. Much about Janice Kenoniez, the
incompetent head of the DWP who let the reservoirs stay empty.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Right up till fire day.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
On January seventh, she got an award from the Los
Angeles Times some women's let me see Inspirational Women's Forum
and Leadership Awards. Jenise Cononia has got an award from
the LA Times. We'll talk more about that later, but
we covered it a lot last hour. Now we're going
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to go on to Roger Bailey. He's the attorney for
over three thousand Palisades residents, people who lost their homes
in the Palisades. We played you the News Nation story
at the end of last hour. It appears that the
state lied in court claiming that they didn't know of
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the January first fire, which led to the January seventh fire,
when the truth is they sent a rep the night
of January first to the state land where the fire originated.
And then we have photos up on all our social
media showing firefighters being directed by a state representative on
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where they can bulldoze. Roger Bailey's going to try to
make sense of all this. The attorney, Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm doing good, John, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Explain this?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Who is this representative that came down in the middle
of the night after being notified that there was a
fire on state land on the Palisades on New Year's
Day morning?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, I want to give you a little background, because
with that background, you'll truly understand the lengths to which
the state has gone to conceal the identity of the
state rep and the fact that a state rep was
even there. So we sent months ago, back in April,
was called a public records request to the state, and
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we asked the state to provide us with a copy
of the incident log for the Lochman fire, which was
the January one fire. They sent us one page and
the page was so heavily redacted it was mostly black.
There was one little section where you could see some reference,
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but everything else was blacked out. We said, well, that's peculiar.
One page and all of it blacked out. Well, a
couple of days ago we got the corresponding report from
la FD for the same date and same time and
lo and to hold in the LAFD report, it confirms
LAFD notified the state atwenty seven minutes after the hour
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midnight on January one, and then it confirms that the
State Park Service sent a state representative at one forty
six in the morning. That state park representative arrived at
the Lockman fire at four am. So the state tried
to conceal everything by blacking it all out. We got
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the other side of that conversation, an incident log from LAFD,
which confirms, yes, indeed, the State was there and was
directing the firefighters. You can't buld those here. You can't
touch these plants. We've dubbed at the the plants over
people philosophy.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You can't touch these plants.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Correct, that's right. State Parks has a protocol where in
the event of a fire, they're supposed to send somebody
there who's going to determine if it's safe not safe,
And while they're there, there's a protocol for them interacting
with the firefighters, and in that manual it says, in
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the event you get any pushback, stand your ground. You know,
if you tell them they can't bulldoze the bush over
there that's got smoke coming out of it, then they're told,
you know, to stand your ground. It's the plants over
people philosophy, right.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So that's when later on that day LA Fire Department.
According to the story, the battalion chief said, okay, roll
up the hoses, let's go home, and the firefighter saying,
let's stay. Everything's still smoldering, everything's still hot here. Did
the state have a role in that decision?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, so there's two important dates. One is January one,
so that's the infinite log that we got from the
state that's all blacked out, and we got the LAFD
version that shows who was there. The next day, January two,
is when the firefighters are told roll up your hoses,
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were going home. And then you heard about in the
La Times and elsewhere. But these firefighters said, I think
that's a bad idea. There's still smoke coming out of
the ground. We've got video from clients who took video
from the hills there that shows smoke still coming out
of the ground. That second day, January two, a state
park rep went up and started giving instructions to the
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battalion chief who was overseeing the mop up operation. And
it's that day January two where the state park rep said, no,
you can't go here, you can't do that. And shortly
after that. Our deduction is when you tell the firefighters
all the things they can't do, then they just might
as well roll it up and go home. And they did.
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They left, even with smoke coming out of the ground,
and the firefighters telling their superiors is a bad.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Idea, even with smoke coming out of the ground, even
with the rocks, you're too hot and the tree stumps
are too hot and the smoke, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And so the state's been covering this up for ten months, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And yesterday this is something that just occurred. Yesterday. We
were in court a court hearing on the Palistase fire
yesterday and we notified the judge yesterday that we had
evidence of a state park rep going up to the
Lochman fire burn scar and directing firefighters. The state's attorney
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stood up and said to the judge, well, this is
the first I'm hearing of that this is ridiculous. The
no State Park Rep was up there, It just didn't happen.
And then, of course this morning we located through a
client a photograph taken on the first of January showing
a State Park Rep directing the firefight, including a battalion chief.
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There's one battalion chief in that photo and three firefighters
and the State Park Rep. You can clearly see the
State Park logo on the Rep's jacket standing there directing
them right in the middle of the Lockman burnscar.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we posted that photo you could see on our
x account, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all our social media accounts
have that photos. It's a very clear photo. So what
next here? I mean, the state has been caught lying, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So one of the other things that occurred yesterday, we've
been asking the court for permission to take depositions. In
a massive court like this, where you have ten thousand plains,
the court has to exercise care and allowing what we
call discovery. You don't want ten thousand people all wanting
to take depositions at the same time. So it's it's
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a coordination. But yesterday we asked the judge for permission
to begin taking the depositions of the firefighters and of
the state Park Reps, and the judge in our view
correctly said, no, it's time we preserve these witnesses, memories
and testimony because the more time that passes and these
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firefighters there, they're panicked that if they come forward outside
the scope of a subpoena, that they're going to, you know,
potentially lose their jobs. And I understand that we don't
want to put them in harm's way. But now we're
going to have the ability to start taking depositions of
the firefighters. This all occur within the next several weeks,
and and that's when we're going to get to hear
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directly from each of these people that were there, what happened,
who did what, who was there, what instructions were given, what,
you know, what were they prevented from doing? And we're
going to get a lot of answers.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So, if if the state wasn't preventing La FD from
bulldozing and from tending to that area the way the
fire department wanted to, if the state had just let
the fire department do its thing, and we might not
have had this terrible flare up on January seventh.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's right. I mean, I've had many retired firefighters reach
out to me and say, look, I've seen the videos
and the photographs of the mop up that was being
done at Lockman, and it just looks like they stopped
right in the middle of the process and just picked
up and left. Everything looks incomplete. It looks like they
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literally were pulled out of their right in the middle
of their job. So had the state, from our view,
permitted the firefighters to do proper mop up, to bulldoze
to remove smoldering plants that might be protected, but they're smoldering.
Let's not allow them to ignite and burn the palisades down.
(09:52):
And if the state had followed its own protocol, in
its own policy, they would have positioned watch cruise up
there for several days when we had a red flag
and wind warning. We all remember the days before January seventh,
we were told, you know, big winds are coming, and
that would have been the clue for the state to
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go put watch crews up on its own land to
make sure there wasn't a reignition. They didn't do any
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I get stunned every day that more and more news
breaks about this story. Roger Bailey, thank you for coming
on with us, and you are welcome on anytime that
you've got something to share.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I will absolutely keep you guys posted as things developed.
Thank you, John.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Roger Bailey, and he's the attorney representing thousands of Pacific
Palisades residents along with other attorneys as well. We got
a lot to say about this.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This has been a last half hour. It's been just
as stunning as the first hour of the show. You've
got the state of California, and this starts with Gavenows
and being caught in a lie in court on a
claim they made to the judge regarding the Palisades fire.
The original fire started on January first, New Year's morning.
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It was called the Lockman fire, who was started by
the arsonist and it started on state land and the
state was notified and the state sent down a representative
to go there at four in the morning, and the
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state representative started telling the fire department what to do
as they put out the fire. They wanted to protect,
They wanted to protect plants. I guess according to the
state parkland protocols, certain plants have to be protected at
all costs, even if they're.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Smoldering and smoke.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
LA Fire Department owned a bulldoze this land, and then
California said no.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Then they denied.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They lied to a judge and said, well, well, we never
had anybody there, because obviously the homeowners, to their attorney
Roger Bailey, are suing, saying the state is partly responsible
for this. And they said, well, no, we didn't even
know the fire was burning. How could you hold us
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responsible for not fully putting out the original blaze?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They lied. There's a photo.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You go to the John coblt show any of our
accounts x, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok whatever. You'll see the photo clearly.
And that was the next day, and this state rep
is telling the La Fire Department what to do, and
it looks like there were so many rules and limitations
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on what land they could clear because they wanted to
protect these smoking plants that the fire department just said,
oh that well, the battalion chief said the hell with it.
Firefighters wanted to stay. They you know what, the original
report the state blacked everything out, which would point to
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their culpability. But the Los Angeles Fire Department had their
own timeline of events that they did not black out,
and that proved that the state was there. And now
you have a photograph proving that the state was there.
So Gavin Newsom and his collection of weasels were lying
and covering up about the state's involvement. Remember, January seventh
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fire does not happen if the January first fire is
properly put out. And last week we learned that a
battalion chief said, oh, everybody go home, roll up the hoses,
even though rocks were smoldering, tree stumps were smoldering, they
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were hot to the touch, Smoke was coming out of
the ground. For God's sakes, because there were so many
members buried beneath and a lot of fire retired firefighters said, yeah,
this job was botched here. It would not have happened.
The January seventh fire didn't have to happen. Failure on
the part of the LA Fire Department and on the
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part of the state because they were bullying or ordering
around LA Fire Department because it was state land. So yeah,
Newsom's Newsom's Parks Department is responsible here. This is why
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they're covering it up. They have to with him running
for president, so they tried for ten months to go
the I know nothing routine depositions are coming and all
the firefighters who are intimidated about telling the truth because
they don't want to lose their job, are going to
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be forced to testify with a subpoena and they'll be protected.
And they were going to find out what went wrong.
But they did it to protect plants.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Plants. You lost your house.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Because the bureaucrats and Sacramento decided the plants were more important.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Than you and your home.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You could go die, But the plant is not going
to die, even if it's already smoking, it's not going
to die. The state protects it. They don't protect you.
This is all true, This is all real. And in
the face of the forecast of eighty mile an hour winds,
Santa Anna winds, extreme fire danger warnings, extreme wind warnings,
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Bass went to Africa and Newsom's administration chose to protect
some smoldering plants that you never even heard of and
left this huge fire risk to whip up. This is
what's governing the state. These people killed some of our
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fellow citizens. These people burned down thousands, thousands of homes.
This government that you vote for it and that you
fund well, we come back. There's another scandal in the
news of the administration involving the Attorney General, Rob Bonta.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We got a story on that.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A six.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Fortyistline is eight seven seven Moys Steady six eight seven
seven Moys Steady six, or use the talkback feature on
the iHeart radio app. We have an interesting report from
case r Iree Channel three in Sacramento. Ashley is a Vala.
Rob BoNT is the Attorney General. He's that little diminutive
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I think is a good word for it. He's this
little guy who stands next to Newsom. He's like Newsom's
mini me. And they get all lathered up filing lawsuits
against Trump. Usually the two of them will do a
joint press conference as they get as they arouse each
other over the latest Trump lawsuit. Bota thought about running
for governor, decided not to. Now he's thinking about running again,
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and he's connected to some weird scandalous story involving the
former mayor of Oakland named Sheng Tao. That's a woman
and her relationship with the Dwong family not making this up.
And the mayor Shang Thu got recalled, it's a bribery investigation.
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And Rob Bonta, our attorney general, made five payments to
an outside law firm for legal help in the bribery scandal,
like his own political campaign, made payments to a private
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law firm instead of the state lawyers.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, let's play this for Ashley Zavala Channel three.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
We're learning Rob Banta has spent a lot of his
own campaign cash on legal help amid a federal bribery investigation.
His campaign is saying that the money is to help
with that investigation. But this is the first time we're
hearing about this now, ten months after that investigation started.
Two days before announcing he would not run for California
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governor and seek re election for attorney general, this was
in February, pain finance records show he made five payments
to a private law firm, totaling four hundred and sixty
eight thousand dollars. That law firm, Wilson, Cincini, Goodrich and Rosati,
has a wide range of services, including legal help with
government investigations and white collar crime. Bonta's campaign confirmed the
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payments were for legal help with the ongoing federal bribery
investigation that's happening in the East Bay. That's the investigation
in which Oakland Mayor Shang Tal, the ex mayor there,
and a family full of business people known as the Dongs,
were indicted earlier this year. In a statement, his campaign's
senior advisor, Dan Newman, said, there are, of course ongoing
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legal proceedings in the East Bay in which several people
were charged with serious crimes. The AG wants to ensure
that anyone who committed a crime is held accountable, so
he engaged outside legal counsel to help his law enforcement
partners pursue justice. Manta has not been charged with the
crime here, but he did return one hundred and fifty
five thousand dollars of campaign donations he received from the Dongs.
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Bonta's advisor, Dan Newman, citing that ongoing investigation, really couldn't
share much more information with me about this.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
But Bonta never.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Said he would use his own campaign money to help
with the investigation outside of his official capacity as Attorney General,
So this is the first time again that we're learning
about this. We did ask how much of that money
is being used for him to have his own representation
and how much is just to simply assist with this investigation.
Tonight it's really not clear.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Still.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, so first up, people may be hearing this thinking, right,
they can even do this with that money.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And that's something we're asking tonight. Again, We've just learned
a lot of this within the last couple of hours. Obviously,
Vonta's campaign believes that yes, because they did use the
money in this way. But I think there are questions
about being upfront with donors about how exactly their contributions
are being used. Right, they may have thought it was
going towards you know, political ads or political campaigns on TVs,
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not legal fees.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
So two weeks ago he told you he planned.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
To stay out of the governor's race. Is that still
the case.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Well, at the same time that I'm learning this tonight,
I'm hearing from multiple sources that he is reconsidering and
is having private conversations about a possible run for governor.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
When I asked his advisor.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Again, Dan Newman, about that, Newman really didn't have a
comment or anything to share. We are still waiting. He decided
to get back to me on that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It's rob Bonte. Sounds dirty, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You're paying a half million dollars almost of your own
campaign money to assist in a bribery scandal involving the mayor,
former mayor of Oakland, and you got donations from the
same Dong family that was given bribe money to the
former Oakland mayor. And you're getting money from that same family.
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Now you return the money, but you're spending other money
on outside legal advice for what.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Just saw Newsom's chief of staff get indicted, taken off
in handcuffs. Yeah, the chief of staff or Javier Sarah
get indicted as well, because they're all stealing money from
Besarah's political account. Now you got Bonta spending his political
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money on outside attorneys who are connected to a bribery
scandal in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
How many dirty people do you have running for governor?
How many dirty people do you have connected to the
news of administration?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh, it smells like a sore up there, doesn't it.
That's foul. Uh. We have.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We have an investigation into the Uh. There would be
assassin of Donald Trump. Thomas Crooks. He's the guy that
the Secret Service finally killed on top of the roof
in Butler, Pennsylvania. Crooks was the guy who winged Trump
in the ear well. There's a lot of information about
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Thomas Crooks, who is twenty years old, that's been held secret.
And now a New York Post has discovered really strange,
disturbing aspects to Thomas Crook's life. And it involves furries
again with the furries.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Oh, we love those spurries, don't we give?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But these furries are murderous. They're angry, murderous furries. Yeah,
just like that was the the guy's charged were killing
Charlie Kirk. His boyfriend. I don't even how to describe
these people, is a furry. Well, this guy, Thomas Crooks,
was involved with furries. Tell you when we come back.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
What was it a couple of weeks ago we had
on Polygrossman from Chevy at Hills. Their neighborhood is dealing
with they have it. Just an absolute idiot of a
city council person in La Kedy Raslavsky, who's been trying
to stuff a homeless housing in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And this was the homeless housing that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The building was bought by one guy who's been indicted
by the federal government because he fraudulently obtained eleven million
dollars in government money, and then he sold it ten
days later to another homeless company for twenty seven million.
So he bought it for eleven million with tax money,
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sold it for twenty seven million. The tax money was
gotten through fraudulent means, according to the government. And now
two executives for the second company have been put on leave.
So more dirty stuff going on. But these people are
still stuck with this, with this homeless residence. It's like
a homeless apartment building. And uh, it's it's quite a story.
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We're we're gonna have poly Gross been on again to
talk about this this shelter. Now, Thomas Crooks, boy, this story,
considering how monumental it was in a way it came
and went so fast. I mean, do people really remember
the name of the guy who shot Trump and got
him in the air. Thomas Crook's twenty years old. You
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remember that kid, goaty kid? Well, Miranda Divine for the
for The New York Post and other reporters have accessed
his his Internet history and account, and it turned out
that this guy was was was involved in the furry community. Now,
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these are people who dress up in animal, furry animal outfits.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Don't laugh. This is real. It's deviant I know sick.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Well, not everybody thinks it's sick. I mean, I know
you do, and maybe I do.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But maybe you do.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I'm trying to be a little objective here.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Your son came home dressed like bugs bunny Halloween.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, it's not Halloween. It's a Christmas dinner.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, that would be odd.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and he's got a girlfriend or actually it's a
guy dressed like Roger rad be alarmed.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Uh. Deviant art is an account that Krook's had a
had accessed, and it's becoming notorious for its community of furries.
He also used the U pronouns they then remember when
people did that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You don't see that much anymore. No, not really, although
at while.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Back an email came my way and the guy had
put his pronouns on.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Some people on LinkedIn also still stop.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That stop that. That's the side of mental that's nuttier
than being a furry your pronouns, and they're doing the
pronouns even if it's not like an alternative set of pronouns,
Like if you're a grown man, you do not have
to identify yourself as a he him, I mean stop,
that be a law against it. Well, you know what
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else this guy, this would be assassin, was involved in.
He had a muscle mommy fetish. What muscle mommy?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Muscle mommy?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He had an obsession with female bodybuilders and muscular women.
He uh On his deviant Art account, he shared one
post of a towering, muscular female bodybuilder, and as they
went through his internet history, it was also another photo
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of a slight man in his underwear. Multiple searches for
muscular women and female bodybuilders were found on his YouTube
search history.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Do they have to be moms? That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't know this like the furries uncharted territory for me,
I get it. I don't even want to look this
up because somebody that might track it to my account.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah management here, they might think that that's what you
do on your off time, and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Then these furries will come over my house. Oh yes,
now the muscle mommies. Yeah, I really want a woman
who could beat me up. You know it's so. As
they were going through Crooks's Internet history, it showed an
increasing obsession with violence, radical comments, and COVID really sent
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him over the edge. He used to be a huge
Trump fan and then he turned. He turned because of COVID.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Did he get COVID and that screwed up his brain?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, he couldn't stand the lockdowns. Here's some of the
crazy stuff he wrote. I always believed being patriotic was
lining up with a bunch of socialist Jews, like the
ones that booed Trump. All these guys are angry with Jews.
That's whether it's left wing or right wing nuts. That
thread connects them all and I want to blast their
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useless brains out with an ar Okay, every one of
the Trump hating Democrats deserved to have their heads chopped
off and put on stakes for the world to see
what happens when you f with America. And then I
hope a quick, painful death to all the deplorable immigrants
and anti Trump congresswoman who don't deserve anything this country
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has given them. But in the middle of COVID, he
made a one to eighty degree turn on Trump got
very angry with him because a social in seeing a
ban of public gatherings, and next thing you know, he's
on the roof and the Secret Service doesn't notice him,
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and he fired the bullet that hit Trump in the air,
where a secret service then slaughtered the guy on the roof.
One day and we might be dead, but everyone will
realized the Internet was the worst invention ever to infect humanity.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There are some positives, John, to the Internet.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Humanity's demise eventually will be corrected connected directly.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
The Internet, John, You stock people on Facebook, so you
do use it?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I stalk people?
Speaker 6 (30:44):
You do. You go on and you look, You never comment,
you never like, but you you do go on.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Don't stalk?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I think you do.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And who would I be stocking?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I don't know, but people? Maybe furries. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You're not gonna find me looking up furries once, I
hope not.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well maybe once everybody has a moment.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
All right, we come back poly Grossman Chevy at Hills.
They're having this this homeless housing forced into their neighborhood.
Very scandalous set of business transactions.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
She'll be on with us next.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Deborah Mark is live in the KFI twenty four hour
News Room. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt
Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on
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Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio
app after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. That's
the podcast and that gets released just after four o'clock.
It's the same as the radio show. You can hear
what you missed last hour. Much about Janice Kenoniez, the
incompetent head of the DWP who let the reservoirs stay empty.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Right up till fire day.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
On January seventh, she got an award from the Los
Angeles Times some women's let me see Inspirational Women's Forum
and Leadership Awards. Jenise Cononia has got an award from
the LA Times. We'll talk more about that later, but
we covered it a lot last hour. Now we're going
(00:50):
to go on to Roger Bailey. He's the attorney for
over three thousand Palisades residents, people who lost their homes
in the Palisades. We played you the News Nation story
at the end of last hour. It appears that the
state lied in court claiming that they didn't know of
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the January first fire, which led to the January seventh fire,
when the truth is they sent a rep the night
of January first to the state land where the fire originated.
And then we have photos up on all our social
media showing firefighters being directed by a state representative on
(01:30):
where they can bulldoze. Roger Bailey's going to try to
make sense of all this. The attorney, Roger.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm doing good, John, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Explain this?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Who is this representative that came down in the middle
of the night after being notified that there was a
fire on state land on the Palisades on New Year's
Day morning?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, I want to give you a little background, because
with that background, you'll truly understand the lengths to which
the state has gone to conceal the identity of the
state rep and the fact that a state rep was
even there. So we sent months ago, back in April,
was called a public records request to the state, and
(02:15):
we asked the state to provide us with a copy
of the incident log for the Lochman fire, which was
the January one fire. They sent us one page and
the page was so heavily redacted it was mostly black.
There was one little section where you could see some reference,
(02:36):
but everything else was blacked out. We said, well, that's peculiar.
One page and all of it blacked out. Well, a
couple of days ago we got the corresponding report from
la FD for the same date and same time and
lo and to hold in the LAFD report, it confirms
LAFD notified the state atwenty seven minutes after the hour
(03:02):
midnight on January one, and then it confirms that the
State Park Service sent a state representative at one forty
six in the morning. That state park representative arrived at
the Lockman fire at four am. So the state tried
to conceal everything by blacking it all out. We got
(03:22):
the other side of that conversation, an incident log from LAFD,
which confirms, yes, indeed, the State was there and was
directing the firefighters. You can't buld those here. You can't
touch these plants. We've dubbed at the the plants over
people philosophy.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You can't touch these plants.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Correct, that's right. State Parks has a protocol where in
the event of a fire, they're supposed to send somebody
there who's going to determine if it's safe not safe,
And while they're there, there's a protocol for them interacting
with the firefighters, and in that manual it says, in
(04:07):
the event you get any pushback, stand your ground. You know,
if you tell them they can't bulldoze the bush over
there that's got smoke coming out of it, then they're told,
you know, to stand your ground. It's the plants over
people philosophy, right.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So that's when later on that day LA Fire Department.
According to the story, the battalion chief said, okay, roll
up the hoses, let's go home, and the firefighter saying,
let's stay. Everything's still smoldering, everything's still hot here. Did
the state have a role in that decision?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, so there's two important dates. One is January one,
so that's the infinite log that we got from the
state that's all blacked out, and we got the LAFD
version that shows who was there. The next day, January two,
is when the firefighters are told roll up your hoses,
(05:08):
were going home. And then you heard about in the
La Times and elsewhere. But these firefighters said, I think
that's a bad idea. There's still smoke coming out of
the ground. We've got video from clients who took video
from the hills there that shows smoke still coming out
of the ground. That second day, January two, a state
park rep went up and started giving instructions to the
(05:32):
battalion chief who was overseeing the mop up operation. And
it's that day January two where the state park rep said, no,
you can't go here, you can't do that. And shortly
after that. Our deduction is when you tell the firefighters
all the things they can't do, then they just might
as well roll it up and go home. And they did.
(05:54):
They left, even with smoke coming out of the ground,
and the firefighters telling their superiors is a bad.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Idea, even with smoke coming out of the ground, even
with the rocks, you're too hot and the tree stumps
are too hot and the smoke, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And so the state's been covering this up for ten months, yep.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And yesterday this is something that just occurred. Yesterday. We
were in court a court hearing on the Palistase fire
yesterday and we notified the judge yesterday that we had
evidence of a state park rep going up to the
Lochman fire burn scar and directing firefighters. The state's attorney
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stood up and said to the judge, well, this is
the first I'm hearing of that this is ridiculous. The
no State Park Rep was up there, It just didn't happen.
And then, of course this morning we located through a
client a photograph taken on the first of January showing
a State Park Rep directing the firefight, including a battalion chief.
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There's one battalion chief in that photo and three firefighters
and the State Park Rep. You can clearly see the
State Park logo on the Rep's jacket standing there directing
them right in the middle of the Lockman burnscar.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we posted that photo you could see on our
x account, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, all our social media accounts
have that photos. It's a very clear photo. So what
next here? I mean, the state has been caught lying, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
So one of the other things that occurred yesterday, we've
been asking the court for permission to take depositions. In
a massive court like this, where you have ten thousand plains,
the court has to exercise care and allowing what we
call discovery. You don't want ten thousand people all wanting
to take depositions at the same time. So it's it's
(07:48):
a coordination. But yesterday we asked the judge for permission
to begin taking the depositions of the firefighters and of
the state Park Reps, and the judge in our view
correctly said, no, it's time we preserve these witnesses, memories
and testimony because the more time that passes and these
(08:10):
firefighters there, they're panicked that if they come forward outside
the scope of a subpoena, that they're going to, you know,
potentially lose their jobs. And I understand that we don't
want to put them in harm's way. But now we're
going to have the ability to start taking depositions of
the firefighters. This all occur within the next several weeks,
and and that's when we're going to get to hear
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directly from each of these people that were there, what happened,
who did what, who was there, what instructions were given, what,
you know, what were they prevented from doing? And we're
going to get a lot of answers.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
So, if if the state wasn't preventing La FD from
bulldozing and from tending to that area the way the
fire department wanted to, if the state had just let
the fire department do its thing, and we might not
have had this terrible flare up on January seventh.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's right. I mean, I've had many retired firefighters reach
out to me and say, look, I've seen the videos
and the photographs of the mop up that was being
done at Lockman, and it just looks like they stopped
right in the middle of the process and just picked
up and left. Everything looks incomplete. It looks like they
(09:29):
literally were pulled out of their right in the middle
of their job. So had the state, from our view,
permitted the firefighters to do proper mop up, to bulldoze
to remove smoldering plants that might be protected, but they're smoldering.
Let's not allow them to ignite and burn the palisades down.
(09:52):
And if the state had followed its own protocol, in
its own policy, they would have positioned watch cruise up
there for several days when we had a red flag
and wind warning. We all remember the days before January seventh,
we were told, you know, big winds are coming, and
that would have been the clue for the state to
(10:14):
go put watch crews up on its own land to
make sure there wasn't a reignition. They didn't do any
of that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I get stunned every day that more and more news
breaks about this story. Roger Bailey, thank you for coming
on with us, and you are welcome on anytime that
you've got something to share.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I will absolutely keep you guys posted as things developed.
Thank you, John.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Roger Bailey, and he's the attorney representing thousands of Pacific
Palisades residents along with other attorneys as well. We got
a lot to say about this.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
This has been a last half hour. It's been just
as stunning as the first hour of the show. You've
got the state of California, and this starts with Gavenows
and being caught in a lie in court on a
claim they made to the judge regarding the Palisades fire.
The original fire started on January first, New Year's morning.
(11:17):
It was called the Lockman fire, who was started by
the arsonist and it started on state land and the
state was notified and the state sent down a representative
to go there at four in the morning, and the
(11:38):
state representative started telling the fire department what to do
as they put out the fire. They wanted to protect,
They wanted to protect plants. I guess according to the
state parkland protocols, certain plants have to be protected at
all costs, even if they're.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Smoldering and smoke.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
LA Fire Department owned a bulldoze this land, and then
California said no.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Then they denied.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They lied to a judge and said, well, well, we never
had anybody there, because obviously the homeowners, to their attorney
Roger Bailey, are suing, saying the state is partly responsible
for this. And they said, well, no, we didn't even
know the fire was burning. How could you hold us
(12:29):
responsible for not fully putting out the original blaze?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
They lied. There's a photo.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You go to the John coblt show any of our
accounts x, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok whatever. You'll see the photo clearly.
And that was the next day, and this state rep
is telling the La Fire Department what to do, and
it looks like there were so many rules and limitations
(13:02):
on what land they could clear because they wanted to
protect these smoking plants that the fire department just said,
oh that well, the battalion chief said the hell with it.
Firefighters wanted to stay. They you know what, the original
report the state blacked everything out, which would point to
(13:23):
their culpability. But the Los Angeles Fire Department had their
own timeline of events that they did not black out,
and that proved that the state was there. And now
you have a photograph proving that the state was there.
So Gavin Newsom and his collection of weasels were lying
and covering up about the state's involvement. Remember, January seventh
(13:47):
fire does not happen if the January first fire is
properly put out. And last week we learned that a
battalion chief said, oh, everybody go home, roll up the hoses,
even though rocks were smoldering, tree stumps were smoldering, they
(14:08):
were hot to the touch, Smoke was coming out of
the ground. For God's sakes, because there were so many
members buried beneath and a lot of fire retired firefighters said, yeah,
this job was botched here. It would not have happened.
The January seventh fire didn't have to happen. Failure on
the part of the LA Fire Department and on the
(14:31):
part of the state because they were bullying or ordering
around LA Fire Department because it was state land. So yeah,
Newsom's Newsom's Parks Department is responsible here. This is why
(14:54):
they're covering it up. They have to with him running
for president, so they tried for ten months to go
the I know nothing routine depositions are coming and all
the firefighters who are intimidated about telling the truth because
they don't want to lose their job, are going to
(15:16):
be forced to testify with a subpoena and they'll be protected.
And they were going to find out what went wrong.
But they did it to protect plants.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Plants. You lost your house.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Because the bureaucrats and Sacramento decided the plants were more important.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Than you and your home.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You could go die, But the plant is not going
to die, even if it's already smoking, it's not going
to die. The state protects it. They don't protect you.
This is all true, This is all real. And in
the face of the forecast of eighty mile an hour winds,
Santa Anna winds, extreme fire danger warnings, extreme wind warnings,
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Bass went to Africa and Newsom's administration chose to protect
some smoldering plants that you never even heard of and
left this huge fire risk to whip up. This is
what's governing the state. These people killed some of our
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fellow citizens. These people burned down thousands, thousands of homes.
This government that you vote for it and that you
fund well, we come back. There's another scandal in the
news of the administration involving the Attorney General, Rob Bonta.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We got a story on that.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A six.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Fortyistline is eight seven seven Moys Steady six eight seven
seven Moys Steady six, or use the talkback feature on
the iHeart radio app. We have an interesting report from
case r Iree Channel three in Sacramento. Ashley is a Vala.
Rob BoNT is the Attorney General. He's that little diminutive
(17:19):
I think is a good word for it. He's this
little guy who stands next to Newsom. He's like Newsom's
mini me. And they get all lathered up filing lawsuits
against Trump. Usually the two of them will do a
joint press conference as they get as they arouse each
other over the latest Trump lawsuit. Bota thought about running
for governor, decided not to. Now he's thinking about running again,
(17:42):
and he's connected to some weird scandalous story involving the
former mayor of Oakland named Sheng Tao. That's a woman
and her relationship with the Dwong family not making this up.
And the mayor Shang Thu got recalled, it's a bribery investigation.
(18:07):
And Rob Bonta, our attorney general, made five payments to
an outside law firm for legal help in the bribery scandal,
like his own political campaign, made payments to a private
(18:27):
law firm instead of the state lawyers.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, let's play this for Ashley Zavala Channel three.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
We're learning Rob Banta has spent a lot of his
own campaign cash on legal help amid a federal bribery investigation.
His campaign is saying that the money is to help
with that investigation. But this is the first time we're
hearing about this now, ten months after that investigation started.
Two days before announcing he would not run for California
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governor and seek re election for attorney general, this was
in February, pain finance records show he made five payments
to a private law firm, totaling four hundred and sixty
eight thousand dollars. That law firm, Wilson, Cincini, Goodrich and Rosati,
has a wide range of services, including legal help with
government investigations and white collar crime. Bonta's campaign confirmed the
(19:18):
payments were for legal help with the ongoing federal bribery
investigation that's happening in the East Bay. That's the investigation
in which Oakland Mayor Shang Tal, the ex mayor there,
and a family full of business people known as the Dongs,
were indicted earlier this year. In a statement, his campaign's
senior advisor, Dan Newman, said, there are, of course ongoing
(19:39):
legal proceedings in the East Bay in which several people
were charged with serious crimes. The AG wants to ensure
that anyone who committed a crime is held accountable, so
he engaged outside legal counsel to help his law enforcement
partners pursue justice. Manta has not been charged with the
crime here, but he did return one hundred and fifty
five thousand dollars of campaign donations he received from the Dongs.
(20:03):
Bonta's advisor, Dan Newman, citing that ongoing investigation, really couldn't
share much more information with me about this.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
But Bonta never.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Said he would use his own campaign money to help
with the investigation outside of his official capacity as Attorney General,
So this is the first time again that we're learning
about this. We did ask how much of that money
is being used for him to have his own representation
and how much is just to simply assist with this investigation.
Tonight it's really not clear.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Still.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, so first up, people may be hearing this thinking, right,
they can even do this with that money.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
And that's something we're asking tonight. Again, We've just learned
a lot of this within the last couple of hours. Obviously,
Vonta's campaign believes that yes, because they did use the
money in this way. But I think there are questions
about being upfront with donors about how exactly their contributions
are being used. Right, they may have thought it was
going towards you know, political ads or political campaigns on TVs,
(20:57):
not legal fees.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
So two weeks ago he told you he planned.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
To stay out of the governor's race. Is that still
the case.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Well, at the same time that I'm learning this tonight,
I'm hearing from multiple sources that he is reconsidering and
is having private conversations about a possible run for governor.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
When I asked his advisor.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Again, Dan Newman, about that, Newman really didn't have a
comment or anything to share. We are still waiting. He decided
to get back to me on that.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
It's rob Bonte. Sounds dirty, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You're paying a half million dollars almost of your own
campaign money to assist in a bribery scandal involving the mayor,
former mayor of Oakland, and you got donations from the
same Dong family that was given bribe money to the
former Oakland mayor. And you're getting money from that same family.
(21:49):
Now you return the money, but you're spending other money
on outside legal advice for what.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Just saw Newsom's chief of staff get indicted, taken off
in handcuffs. Yeah, the chief of staff or Javier Sarah
get indicted as well, because they're all stealing money from
Besarah's political account. Now you got Bonta spending his political
(22:20):
money on outside attorneys who are connected to a bribery
scandal in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
How many dirty people do you have running for governor?
How many dirty people do you have connected to the
news of administration?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh, it smells like a sore up there, doesn't it.
That's foul. Uh. We have.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We have an investigation into the Uh. There would be
assassin of Donald Trump. Thomas Crooks. He's the guy that
the Secret Service finally killed on top of the roof
in Butler, Pennsylvania. Crooks was the guy who winged Trump
in the ear well. There's a lot of information about
(23:08):
Thomas Crooks, who is twenty years old, that's been held secret.
And now a New York Post has discovered really strange,
disturbing aspects to Thomas Crook's life. And it involves furries
again with the furries.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Oh, we love those spurries, don't we give?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But these furries are murderous. They're angry, murderous furries. Yeah,
just like that was the the guy's charged were killing
Charlie Kirk. His boyfriend. I don't even how to describe
these people, is a furry. Well, this guy, Thomas Crooks,
was involved with furries. Tell you when we come back.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
What was it a couple of weeks ago we had
on Polygrossman from Chevy at Hills. Their neighborhood is dealing
with they have it. Just an absolute idiot of a
city council person in La Kedy Raslavsky, who's been trying
to stuff a homeless housing in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
And this was the homeless housing that.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
The building was bought by one guy who's been indicted
by the federal government because he fraudulently obtained eleven million
dollars in government money, and then he sold it ten
days later to another homeless company for twenty seven million.
So he bought it for eleven million with tax money,
(24:46):
sold it for twenty seven million. The tax money was
gotten through fraudulent means, according to the government. And now
two executives for the second company have been put on leave.
So more dirty stuff going on. But these people are
still stuck with this, with this homeless residence. It's like
a homeless apartment building. And uh, it's it's quite a story.
(25:11):
We're we're gonna have poly Gross been on again to
talk about this this shelter. Now, Thomas Crooks, boy, this story,
considering how monumental it was in a way it came
and went so fast. I mean, do people really remember
the name of the guy who shot Trump and got
him in the air. Thomas Crook's twenty years old. You
(25:33):
remember that kid, goaty kid? Well, Miranda Divine for the
for The New York Post and other reporters have accessed
his his Internet history and account, and it turned out
that this guy was was was involved in the furry community. Now,
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these are people who dress up in animal, furry animal outfits.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Don't laugh. This is real. It's deviant I know sick.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Well, not everybody thinks it's sick. I mean, I know
you do, and maybe I do.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But maybe you do.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I'm trying to be a little objective here.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Your son came home dressed like bugs bunny Halloween.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
No, it's not Halloween. It's a Christmas dinner.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, that would be odd.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, and he's got a girlfriend or actually it's a
guy dressed like Roger rad be alarmed.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Uh. Deviant art is an account that Krook's had a
had accessed, and it's becoming notorious for its community of furries.
He also used the U pronouns they then remember when
people did that.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
You don't see that much anymore. No, not really, although
at while.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Back an email came my way and the guy had
put his pronouns on.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Some people on LinkedIn also still stop.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That stop that. That's the side of mental that's nuttier
than being a furry your pronouns, and they're doing the
pronouns even if it's not like an alternative set of pronouns,
Like if you're a grown man, you do not have
to identify yourself as a he him, I mean stop,
that be a law against it. Well, you know what
(27:30):
else this guy, this would be assassin, was involved in.
He had a muscle mommy fetish. What muscle mommy?
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Muscle mommy?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He had an obsession with female bodybuilders and muscular women.
He uh On his deviant Art account, he shared one
post of a towering, muscular female bodybuilder, and as they
went through his internet history, it was also another photo
(28:02):
of a slight man in his underwear. Multiple searches for
muscular women and female bodybuilders were found on his YouTube
search history.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Do they have to be moms? That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I don't know this like the furries uncharted territory for me,
I get it. I don't even want to look this
up because somebody that might track it to my account.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Yeah management here, they might think that that's what you
do on your off time, and.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Then these furries will come over my house. Oh yes,
now the muscle mommies. Yeah, I really want a woman
who could beat me up. You know it's so. As
they were going through Crooks's Internet history, it showed an
increasing obsession with violence, radical comments, and COVID really sent
(28:54):
him over the edge. He used to be a huge
Trump fan and then he turned. He turned because of COVID.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Did he get COVID and that screwed up his brain?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
No, he couldn't stand the lockdowns. Here's some of the
crazy stuff he wrote. I always believed being patriotic was
lining up with a bunch of socialist Jews, like the
ones that booed Trump. All these guys are angry with Jews.
That's whether it's left wing or right wing nuts. That
thread connects them all and I want to blast their
(29:27):
useless brains out with an ar Okay, every one of
the Trump hating Democrats deserved to have their heads chopped
off and put on stakes for the world to see
what happens when you f with America. And then I
hope a quick, painful death to all the deplorable immigrants
and anti Trump congresswoman who don't deserve anything this country
(29:50):
has given them. But in the middle of COVID, he
made a one to eighty degree turn on Trump got
very angry with him because a social in seeing a
ban of public gatherings, and next thing you know, he's
on the roof and the Secret Service doesn't notice him,
(30:11):
and he fired the bullet that hit Trump in the air,
where a secret service then slaughtered the guy on the roof.
One day and we might be dead, but everyone will
realized the Internet was the worst invention ever to infect humanity.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
There are some positives, John, to the Internet.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Humanity's demise eventually will be corrected connected directly.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
The Internet, John, You stock people on Facebook, so you
do use it?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I stalk people?
Speaker 6 (30:44):
You do. You go on and you look, You never comment,
you never like, but you you do go on.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Don't stalk?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I think you do.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And who would I be stocking?
Speaker 6 (30:57):
I don't know, but people? Maybe furries. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You're not gonna find me looking up furries once, I
hope not.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well maybe once everybody has a moment.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
All right, we come back poly Grossman Chevy at Hills.
They're having this this homeless housing forced into their neighborhood.
Very scandalous set of business transactions.
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She'll be on with us next.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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