July 24, 2025 • 38 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (07/24) - The LA Times did an investigation on why firefighters didn't go to certain parts of Altadena during the fires. Newsom's COVID-19 report is going to be over 1,000 pages and it comes out within the next month. You don't want to end up on a plane heading to El Salvador's supermax prison.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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All right, palass fire. It's a wealthier area. Celebrities live
there and so it's got a lot of the attention.
But Alta Dina was heavily, heavily damaged, a lot of
deaths there nineteen deaths, and eighteen of the nineteen deaths
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happened in West Alta Dina. This is known as the
Eaton fire. I'll call it the Altadena fire. Guy, I
don't know where Eaton is. The Altadena fire was out
of control for a long time, and it started on
the nine of January seventh, and many hours went by,
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and it was now early in the morning on January eighth,
and in most parts of West Altadena, where they suffered
the most damage and the most deaths, no fire trucks,
no La County fire trucks ever showed up, and I
bet you the commanders at La County Fire were just
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pray it every day that Karen Bass keeps mucking up
because that focused so much attention on the Palisades, and
they were hoping day by day just to slide under
the radar and people are going to forget how badly
managed the fire was in Altadena. But the La Times,
in a rare outbreak of journalism, did an extensive investigation
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and found that well the headline, as West Altadena burned,
La County fire trucks stayed elsewhere. What they did is
they put in a Public Records Request Act to get
the automatic Vehicle locator data. As the fire trucks roll around,
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their locations are recorded and stored and can be accessed.
And the LA Times asked, hey, can we see the data?
And it had to be shown. They say, during a
critical moment in the Eaton fire in west of Lake
Avenue in Altadena, where nearly all of the deaths took
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place eighteen out of nineteen. Yeah, you don't how many
fire trucks were on duty there. One one LA County
firetruck was on duty during the worst of the fire
in West Altadena. You know why, because many County fire
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trucks had already been deployed to the Palisades. You know why,
because Karen Bass and Kristin Crowley did not prepare and
pre deploy the fire trucks to the Palisades. So because
Karen Bass went to Africa in defiance of the wind
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and fire warnings, and because Kristin Crowley was in over
her head, they were both bumbling in competence. La County
had to send a lot of it, a lot of
their fire trucks to the Palisades. And then when Alta
Dina started burning, there was nobody left to go to
Alta Dina. So Alta Dina burned so extensively because of
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Bass and Crowley's incompetence in the Palisades. It's not the
only reason, but it's a big reason. More than forty
La County fire trucks surrounded the Palisades fire. The fire
was now seventeen hours old. An additional sixty four fire
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trucks were fanned out across East Altadena. But in West Altadena,
where they had thousands of homes burned in eighteen deaths,
there was one County firetruck at three oh eight am, so,
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there's forty trucks in the Palisades, sixty four trucks in
East Altadena, one truck in West Altadena. Primarily black neighborhoods there,
and the residents think that black residents were sacrificed for
the sake of white, wealthier residents. Can you argue with them?
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Looks like they were we were abandoned, said one woman,
Sophia Vidal. I never heard a siren. Am I grateful
for firemen?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Not at all?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Did they fail me miserably? Absolutely? You know how bad
it was. They stayed in their house till quarter to
six in the morning that night, and they finally ran
out of the house.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This is going to upset you, debor.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't want to hear about animals.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
They ran out after burning squirrels began to fall from
their palm tree. I guess the squirrels had run up
the palm tree for safety, and so there's burning squirrels
falling from the sky and that's when they decided to
get out. Of course, the LA Fire Department, they're top officials.
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Anthony on the pronunciation again, LA Fire Chief Anthony Maroni,
he and the rest of him said, well, well, wind
was too intense, flames were too violent, the whole night unprecedented,
never seen anything like it. Well, if you stand around
for twelve hours and you don't send any fire trucks in, yeah,
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I guess things eventually get out of control. But the
only reason they sent forty, well, the main reason they
send forty fire trucks to the Palisades is because Bass
and Kristin Crowley had screwed up so badly, so negligent,
so stupid. And then they sent sixty four fire trucks
to the east side of Altadena, where wealthier white people live,
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but the black families on the west side one truck,
one truck, nearly twenty percent of the residence. According to
an Altadena public interest research firm, they interviewed twelve hundred residents,
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and nearly twenty percent believe that the county fire department
let the town burn on purpose. Now that's a reasonable conclusion.
If you get one fire truck and the other side
of town gets sixty four. They're white and wealthier, you're
black and poor. Nobody shows up for I don't know how,
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I mean twelve hours, seventeen hours. Anthony Moroney, the LA
Fire chief, says the lack of fire treeks fire trucks
in West Altadena probably boiled down to human error. Human
error by the fire officials. Well, what are their names?
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And how is that an error? You could see that
the fire was burning on the west side. Is it
really hard to say, oh, wow, look at the fire
there on the west side, we should send trucks.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, I don't know. How do you make a mistake
on that?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Fire officials, some of them had the job to decide
where the trucks should move. They had this unified incident command,
county officials and other agencies.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now, listen to Maroney. This is classic.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
This is classic bureaucrat politician BS. What you do is
you ask a lot of questions. Now you're supposed to
answer the questions, right, and instead, you know, a reporter says,
well what happened? And Maroney goes, why didn't we do
a better job of dividing resources between the East and
West Altadena? Right, that's a fair question. What was going on?
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What were people doing?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You tell me what was going on? What were people doing? Instead,
he asked these rhetorical questions. You must know by now
it's been six and a half months. Then he's got
more questions. Did people who were working the west side
not accurately communicate the dire circumstances they were faced with? Well,
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tell us why, wait, he's got more. Was there a
lack of resources or were both sides of the fire
equally challenging. Well, he's offered five major questions. And then
he goes, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Know, it's been six months.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was watching the fire from their unified command all night.
He was making decisions about who's supposed to go where.
Six and a half months later, he goes, oh, well,
I've got all these questions. Huh, I don't know what
the hell out of all those questions. I don't know
which one of those it is. It's probably a little
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bit of all that. Here's an answer. Huh. Gets thrown
a whole bunch of questions to confuse everybody and say, wow,
it was all that was everything. It doesn't explain sixty
four trucks on the east side, one truck on the
west side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He said, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Possible other fire agencies sent trucks to West Altadena, but
his department didn't track their locations.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You guys have radios.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It says the cascade of events began when the LA
Fire Department failed to pre deploy fire trucks to the
Pallesides to the Palisades admid dire wind warnings, so the
county was forced to pitch in. But West Altadena suffered
from more than being the last place to catch fire.
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The vehicle locator data points to a failure within the
incident command coordinating the county's response, led that night by Oh,
we have a couple of names here, Deputy fire chiefs
Elane at Papas and Albert Janaga Sawa. They were the
ones in charge. They were supposed to be sending the
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fire trucks into the right sections, and I guess they didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Doesn't say it clearly, tell you more we come back.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
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Speaker 1 (11:25):
I was telling you about the La Times investigation.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It turned out if you were in West Altadena, boy,
were you screwed over by the La County Fire Department.
They almost literally sent you nobody. They sent one county
firetruck one and that had eighteen of the nineteen deaths
from that fire in Altadena. One at three o'clock in
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the morning. Now, I told you that Thingy Maroney, the
La County fire chief, who has escaped much scrutiny, unlike
Kristin Kristin Crowley, Yeah, the LA City fire chief. But
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he didn't seem to have no idea what's going on?
According to the story, he just asked. He asked a
bunch of obvious questions. Why didn't we do a better job?
What was going on? What were the people doing well?
What were hundreds and hundreds of firefighters and probably dozens
of supervisors? What were you doing? One former La City
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Fire Department commander said, the data that he looked at
because the La Times got this vehicle locator data, showed
that too many firefighters were deployed like moths to a candle.
In other words, they swarmed the flames that were immediately
in front of them. But he said, somebody had to
stand back and look at the big picture. It takes
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leadership situational awareness to say, hey, guys, I understand you
guys are fighting the fire there, but I don't need
you there. Based on the map, you look at the weather,
the rate of the fire spread, the nine to one
one calls, I need you to defend the homes in
this other place, right, So you're not only looking at
where it is now, but you're using all the weather
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and fire spread information which is available, and this automatic
vehicle locator data. They use GPS coordinates to pinpoint every
time a truck stopped. Now, some of the people who
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were affected, this is heartbreaking stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So while the La County public officials were dithering around,
and while some of the fire trucks were sent to
La City because Bass and Kristen Crowley were incompetent and unprepared,
look what happened to regular people. Anthony Mitchell Senior. This
is West Altadena, sixty eight year old amputee. His son
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has cerebral palsy. They called nine to one one three times,
no aid came.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They died. Uh Monterrosa Drive.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Victor Shaw, aged sixty six, died trying to fight the
flames with a garden hose. A neighbor called nine one
one on Tanya Avenue. Arlene Kelly, eighty three years old,
died after calling nine one one twice. Her son, Trevor Kelly,
tried to rescue her at six in the morning. He
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was inching through oily black smoke was too thick to
even see what the truck's high beams, and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
All this time later, there's no explanation.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Of course, they have investigations going on, but six and
a half months is enough. It's like, what's this other
thing I've got here? Newsom has got an investigation that
they're going to announce soon all the things his administration
did right and wrong about the COVID lockdown, now in
twenty twenty five, five and a half years after he
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started the lockdown.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I think it's gonna be one thousand pages.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
In this report, A thousand pages.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Something like that. Very comprehensive, John, I bet you.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's very complicated, so people get bored very quickly. Do
you think this report is going to be an honest
assessment in Gavin Nuwsan's performance. What are the odds of that,
as he prepares his presidential run, that we are going
to hear all the things Gavin new Some did wrong
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back in twenty twenty or.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
All the things that he told us to do that
he didn't do.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, you know what, maybe I'm sure maybe there's probably
some websites that track him. I think, actually, Katie Grimes,
he has kept a running list of every stupid thing
he's done over the last six and a half years,
because people need reminders. This news cycle is so fast.
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I mean, I can't remember by the end of our
show what we did at the beginning of the show,
and the next day forget about it. And if I'm
forgetting it, you probably forget a lot of the stuff
that you're reading, all right, because it's like a constant
fire hose. I know everybody listening is forgetting this, and
you have to go back and actually list and read
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the list out loud to refresh your memory what the
last five and a half years have been like, because
life change dramatically.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Once that lockdown hit, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Then we you know it's that, and then all the
stupid George Floyd protests and all the businesses closing and
the riots that summer, and the restaurants were all shut down,
and so many people lost their businesses, and so many
schools were shut down for a year and a half,
and so many kids lost really got brain damaged from
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a lack of education for a year and a half.
And it's just been all these dominans falling ever since.
Now you know, Newsom is finally he did what he
wanted to do. The oil industry is shutting down, by
the way. We're gonna talk a lot about that after
three o'clock with Michael mcche, the USC professor, because yesterday
big news at the end of the day was Newsom
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is frantically trying to get a buyer for the Valero
oil refinery in Benetia, which is closing in April, and
between that and the second refinery that's closing in Wilmington
is going to be eight bucks a gallon. In fact,
the state's own estimate now is eight bucks a gallon,
all right, the state is saying it's eight dollars. That's
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why he's frantically trying to find a buyer because for years,
what I read one story is yeah, we're down to
about seven. We'll be down to about seven refineries. So
be listening. After three o'clock we'll delve into this and well, see,
I don't know, does anything happen to all these LA
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County Fire department chiefs and commanders and this, and then
does anything happen to them?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I think they have to come out against people and
then they'll get fired because look what happened to Crowley.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh if they all right, they.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Have to talk badly about politicians and then they'll be fired.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right right. You know the LA County Supervisor Board, those geniuses.
You know, that's how they're hiding. They don't say anything.
What's their role, what's their role in not having the
fire department prepared. I'm gonna keep going after all these people.
I'm not this this ding. I don't care if it
takes ten years. I'm not letting all this rest. They
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they have destroyed a lot of the city in the county,
not just with the fire, but with all kinds of
other garbage, nonsense policies.
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Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, I just just to follow up. I found the story.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're right, thousand pages for Governor Newsom's COVID nineteen investigative
report California Health and Human Services and independent experts, experts,
and uh, it's gonna come out within a month. And uh,
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he actually admitted this on one of those idiot podcasts
he's been doing. Now what I think Katie Grimes wrote this,
She was wondering, are they gonna do an investigation of
him going to the French laundry in traveling to Mexico? Him? Oh,
that billion dollar, the billion dollar Chinese mask scandal. Remember
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he spent a billion dollars in tax money for Chinese masks.
The thirty one billion dollars that we blew on unemployment fraud,
his multiple failed homeless COVID housing plans.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I didn't even know what that is.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Wasn't his Uh doesn't he have a winery or something?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, And his kid's private schools were open. This is
what hit me the other day is he let the
public schools stay closed while his own kids are going
to a private school. And nobody at the private school,
nothing bad happened to them, right, Nobody got sick, nobody died.
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If they got sick, it was very minor. So he's
got this in his face every day his kid he's
helping his kids off to school presumably every day, and
every day they're coming home from school, and it didn't
occur to him like, wow, there's millions of kids who
can't go because of me, because of me, millions.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But obviously he.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Had a test case right in his right in his
kitchen every morning that nothing bad was happening for kids
to go to school.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He can't go home, or he didn't. We didn't know
about the research, you know, we had to take some
time and do study. No, your study was your own
children at your own kitchen table.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
In the morning, having breakfast, and then they'd come home
to have dinner, and they'd tell you what went.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
On at school.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well, all the people at the French laundry also presumably survived.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That was my question that nobody's ever asked him. If
you thought it was such a deadly disease, you were
not nervous at all being stuck in that that that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Room, because they were in a private room. It was
entirely enclosed.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They were all bunched up together, about a dozen of them,
at a small table. Nobody's wearing masks. It's like if
you believed that it was. It was so deadly and
so easy to get. Why weren't you nervous that night? Instead,
they're all drinking wine. And he's got health officials like
from the from the industry that he that the lobbyists
from the health industry that he's drinking the line with,
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like I, you know, as much of a as much
abuse as he got, he didn't get enough right just
to go in a different direction for a minute. They
caught the guy who was hurling concrete blocks at the
federal agents during the Ice riots. You know the reason
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we got the National Guarden. They finally arrested him. He'd
run over the border into Mexico. His name is Elpedio Rena.
He was on the FBI's most wanted list for throwing
the concrete blocks at the agents. Border patrol officer took
him into custody. And he's thirty nine years old. Thirty
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nine years old and he's throwing concrete. What God knows
what kind of crimes this animals committed in his life.
I wonder who his rap sheet is. I wonder how
many times he's spun through the system here thirty nine?
What I mean that is violent insanity, picking.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Up concrete blocks, throwing him at cops.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
SA Anyway, they sent out a lot of images of him,
and guess what.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
One of the images, he's got a mask up to
his nose. Well you can see his eyes. It's like
the agents are not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Have masks, but this guy who's trying to kill them,
he was wearing a mask. They got him at the
sand you see, you're a point of entry, and Bill Saley,
the US attorney, said, uh, he was taken into custody
by a Porta Patrol officer who was inside one of
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the vehicles that Raina had thrown the concrete blocks at originally.
So he's he's going to get the book thrown at him.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
This guy named Mike Davis, who's written a piece at
the Federalist dot com. You. A week or two ago,
I think Karen Vass held a press conference and announced
that you know, she was angry over the ice ra
it's the only thing that gets her upset. And she
announced a plan to hand out cash cards a couple
of hundred dollars to illegal aliens. And everybody's wondering where
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you're getting the money. It's not tax money, it's from
philanthropic groups. Immigrants rights groups will handle it. See she's
fully in support of the network of illegal alien charity groups,
many of them who get tax money from people well.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Mike Davis points out that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Providing for illegal immigrants, giving them cash, food, or resources
is a federal crime, and he lists the Federal Code
eight USC one three two four. It's called harboring illegal immigrants,
and he says the law is not aimed at restaurant
owners or grocery clerks. Lawmakers designed it to stop politicians
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and activists who deliberately help illegal immigrants. So with Bass
getting money from philanthro philanthropists and giving it out through
these immigrant rights groups, David says, this is a blatant
violation of federal law. They're not helping needy people at random.
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They're specifically helping people who enter or remain in the
US illegally. That is harboring and the Department of Justice,
he says, should open an immediate investigation who's funding this scheme.
There should be indictments for the donors and the activists,
and if Bass or any other officials organize this operation,
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they need to face the consequences. He's right, that is
the federal law, all these immigrant rights groups can be
charged with federal crimes. He says, this is a test
of whether the law means anything anymore. If an a
regular American did this, he'd get thrown in jail. So
why should a politician or liberal billionaire funded activist groups
get a free pass. Well, that's what would happened. When
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I say, say, you're standing in all these press conference,
it hit me, it's like you should You're not allowed
to do that. But nobody's got the guts to actually
charge these groups, do the investigation.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It won't be hard to prove and arrest her.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What you need is one politician in one of these
cities to get arrested by one of the charged by
one of the US attorneys one, and that'll stop this
nonsense real fast, because they all are breaking the law.
Nobody's got the guts to do this. Now, when we
come back, I have a heartwarming story about just how
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horrible that L. Salvador prison is the one, the one
that Trump sent illegal aliens to, who, even by my standards,
this may me flinch. Yeah, you do not want to
end up on a plane to the L. Salador in
Supermac's prison. That's that and and once you get there
you really need to behave I'll tell you all about it.
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Of course I find.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
All this funny.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I know you do.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
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Speaker 2 (28:12):
We only need less than fifty followers, and we hit
thirty thousand, and there's no price for this. But we'll
be happy here if you just follow us on social media.
It's actually only thirty now, thirty people, yep, oh, come on,
that should be no problem, Bolo. You know, after a
while you get people who don't know what social media
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is or don't have phones or something like that coming
up after three o'clock. And this really is the big
story of the day, and we did a lot of
this in the one o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Real deal.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Gas prices could hit eight dollars a gallon early next
year because they are closing two refineries in California. One
is in Bentiate, it's the Valero refinery. And now, now,
after all these years of punishing the oil companies with
all their regulation and taxes, Newsom is panicking because he
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can't run for president because this campaign would start next year.
He can't run for President, and while gas is hitting
eight dollars a gallon in his state, what's he going
to do?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Now, he's frantically trying to find a buyer for the
Valero Benetia refinery. But no oil company is going to
take that over if it means they're going to lose
all the money that the Llo is losing. So he
would have to scrap a lot of his regulations, all
that climate change garbage, and scrap all those taxes.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So that's going to be very entertaining. All right.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Now, we were telling you about they caught the illegal
alien who threw these cement blocks at an ICE agent.
They caught him over the border, well actually at the
Sane Sidro border border station the Atlantic. This is this
is the headline that caught my eye. You're writing headlines
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for a living. This made me stop. No one was
supposed to leave alive, don't dun't dun Yeah, And I thought, oh,
this sounds good, this sounds like something entertaining. Uh So
it's about the Venezuelan illegal aliens. Most of the criminals
that we sent to El Salvador to that supermax prison.
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We paid the l Salvador and President six million dollars.
Take all these guys, and these were a lot of them,
were trend to irod with gang members and similar similar species.
So some of these Venezuelans they got they got tired
of the way they were being treated. Yeah, they did
something stupid. They tried to break the locks on their cells.
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They grabbed metal rails from their beds and tried to
smash the locks. Now they had no chance of escaping.
They were just acting out. But the punishments were pretty severe.
For six straight days, according to three inmates, they were
subjected to lengthy beatings. On the last day, the male
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guards brought in their female colleagues, female guards who struck
the naked prisoners while the male guards recorded videos and laughed.
They had their phones out recording the women beating the men.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's cold, yeah, but the women did it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
The women would count to twenty they as they administered
the beatings, and if the prisoners complained, they.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Would start again.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
In fact, if they cried out in any way, if
they cried out from pain. Uh, we're going back to one, one, two, three. Ah.
Although there are a lot of guys in LA who
would pay a lot of money to get beaten by
a female dressed up as a guard. Oh Martinez, one
of the inmates said, a prison nurse was watching and
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she started cheering. She started shouting out, hit the pinata.
El Salvador is a tough place. That's a girl, that's
a nurse. Hit the pinnata. This is the complex on
a seacot and the country Security minister when they opened
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it in twenty twenty three said you'd only be able
to get out of it inside a coffin, and in
fact that's pretty close to the truth. They have documented
case of prisoners being transported out of jail for urgent
medical care, probably beatings, and all the inmates died soon after,
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and nobody was ever able to explain what was like inside.
Now that's when this president Bukayley, he decided that they
were just going to round up all the gang members
and all the bad guys on the streets because El
Salvador used to have one of the highest rates of
murder in the world. And you know what happened after
he did this massive round up. It was like thousands
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of bad guys, murder rate drop a ninety seven percent.
Public's really happy.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Imagine that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Imagine ninety seven percent of the murder rate disappears. And
so I look at the US with its justice systems,
prison system, and I'm thinking, No, I like l Salvador.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm serious, it works in El Salvador. What do we
need this for. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I don't want to hear about rehabilitation, restorative justice and
all diversion programs. No, put him in prison forever and
give give the women metal rails to beat them with.
Let the nurses cheer them on. Yeah, President Ai Bukyley.
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Men are cramped to cells, bare metal bunk beds stacked
to the ceiling, but human shelving.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
The No.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
If you've seen the videos and these guys of the photos,
no you haven't. You looked them up, They're there.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
They all.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Many of these guys are almost entirely encased in tattoos.
Their heads are shaven, so from from their feet all
the way up to the top of their heads, everything's green.
They look like frightening aliens. And they all have these
tattooed designs over their whole body. They usually are laid
out in their tidy whities, that's all they're wearing. So
(34:34):
it's tidy whities, tattoos covering every square inch and uh.
And so the Salvadoran government has turned the prison into
a kind of a museum where all these, according to
this writer, where all of Boucheli's tactics can be exhibited
for the press. So they like to show off how
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awful the conditions are. And some of the prisoners, some
of the prisoners that were sent by the Trump administration
have been let out, and the Venezuelan president negotiated a
prisoner swap with the US, so there were ten American
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citizens released from Venezuela in exchange for some of the
Venezuelans in Al Salvador. And so they're the ones who
told the stories of the beatings and the harsh treatment.
Four former prisoners said they were punched, kicked, struck with clubs,
They were cut off from contact with their families, no
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legal help, taunted by guards. They would spend days in
a punishment cell known as the Island, a dark room
with no water. They slept on the floor. So what's
your problem, how about their doing it? If you're in there,
don't try to smash the locks of the cell door.
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And you know they have various sob stories here, I'm
telling you there's not one person listing right now who
you would not Almost every one of you would enjoy
life if this is how we treated prisoners in this country.
Just lock them up for good, beat the crap out
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of them.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Cots.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We know that they're truly guilty, because you know, I
have watched some of those those movies Presumed Innocent and
whatever those movies are where you know that you do
the DNA testing and it turns out that somebody was
wrongfully accused. So that's that's my only issue. But people
that truly have committed these heinous crimes, I don't care
what happens.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
This is what Coburger should get.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Coburger should have a day as a pinata Menandez brothers,
they should have gotten thirty five years.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Worth of this. Instead, it's like, oh, if kid so
I have to get out.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I think he had one or two surgeries.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Eric zero sympathy. I have lost all my sympathy and
empathy for bad guys. No, there is no punishment, no torture.
That's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you want to watch it though, certain guys? Yeah,
I wouldn't be squeamish.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I am squeamish. I don't like violence at all, Okay,
I almost never watch violence.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Okay, so you probably wouldn't want to watch, but.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
If they deserved it, I get it, you know, I
get it. That's the exception. Coburger. Yeah, I could watch that.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, I could get in line.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I was gonna say, are you going to party?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
If it's hit the Pinata time and it's a guy
like Coburger, I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
In Eric would be loving putting that on social media.
John whacking Coburger.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We'd get a lot of likes when we come back.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Michael MChE on the California gas prices could hit eight
a gallon those those refineries really are closing, and the
one in Benetia Valero is closing, and Governor Newsom's in
a panic.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
He's trying to get some.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Company to buy it because he knows where the gas
prices are going. Deborah Mark Live in the KFI twenty
four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John
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All right, palass fire. It's a wealthier area. Celebrities live
there and so it's got a lot of the attention.
But Alta Dina was heavily, heavily damaged, a lot of
deaths there nineteen deaths, and eighteen of the nineteen deaths
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happened in West Alta Dina. This is known as the
Eaton fire. I'll call it the Altadena fire. Guy, I
don't know where Eaton is. The Altadena fire was out
of control for a long time, and it started on
the nine of January seventh, and many hours went by,
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and it was now early in the morning on January eighth,
and in most parts of West Altadena, where they suffered
the most damage and the most deaths, no fire trucks,
no La County fire trucks ever showed up, and I
bet you the commanders at La County Fire were just
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pray it every day that Karen Bass keeps mucking up
because that focused so much attention on the Palisades, and
they were hoping day by day just to slide under
the radar and people are going to forget how badly
managed the fire was in Altadena. But the La Times,
in a rare outbreak of journalism, did an extensive investigation
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and found that well the headline, as West Altadena burned,
La County fire trucks stayed elsewhere. What they did is
they put in a Public Records Request Act to get
the automatic Vehicle locator data. As the fire trucks roll around,
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their locations are recorded and stored and can be accessed.
And the LA Times asked, hey, can we see the data?
And it had to be shown. They say, during a
critical moment in the Eaton fire in west of Lake
Avenue in Altadena, where nearly all of the deaths took
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place eighteen out of nineteen. Yeah, you don't how many
fire trucks were on duty there. One one LA County
firetruck was on duty during the worst of the fire
in West Altadena. You know why, because many County fire
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trucks had already been deployed to the Palisades. You know why,
because Karen Bass and Kristin Crowley did not prepare and
pre deploy the fire trucks to the Palisades. So because
Karen Bass went to Africa in defiance of the wind
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and fire warnings, and because Kristin Crowley was in over
her head, they were both bumbling in competence. La County
had to send a lot of it, a lot of
their fire trucks to the Palisades. And then when Alta
Dina started burning, there was nobody left to go to
Alta Dina. So Alta Dina burned so extensively because of
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Bass and Crowley's incompetence in the Palisades. It's not the
only reason, but it's a big reason. More than forty
La County fire trucks surrounded the Palisades fire. The fire
was now seventeen hours old. An additional sixty four fire
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trucks were fanned out across East Altadena. But in West Altadena,
where they had thousands of homes burned in eighteen deaths,
there was one County firetruck at three oh eight am, so,
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there's forty trucks in the Palisades, sixty four trucks in
East Altadena, one truck in West Altadena. Primarily black neighborhoods there,
and the residents think that black residents were sacrificed for
the sake of white, wealthier residents. Can you argue with them?
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Looks like they were we were abandoned, said one woman,
Sophia Vidal. I never heard a siren. Am I grateful
for firemen?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Not at all?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Did they fail me miserably? Absolutely? You know how bad
it was. They stayed in their house till quarter to
six in the morning that night, and they finally ran
out of the house.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This is going to upset you, debor.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't want to hear about animals.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
They ran out after burning squirrels began to fall from
their palm tree. I guess the squirrels had run up
the palm tree for safety, and so there's burning squirrels
falling from the sky and that's when they decided to
get out. Of course, the LA Fire Department, they're top officials.
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Anthony on the pronunciation again, LA Fire Chief Anthony Maroni,
he and the rest of him said, well, well, wind
was too intense, flames were too violent, the whole night unprecedented,
never seen anything like it. Well, if you stand around
for twelve hours and you don't send any fire trucks in, yeah,
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I guess things eventually get out of control. But the
only reason they sent forty, well, the main reason they
send forty fire trucks to the Palisades is because Bass
and Kristin Crowley had screwed up so badly, so negligent,
so stupid. And then they sent sixty four fire trucks
to the east side of Altadena, where wealthier white people live,
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but the black families on the west side one truck,
one truck, nearly twenty percent of the residence. According to
an Altadena public interest research firm, they interviewed twelve hundred residents,
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and nearly twenty percent believe that the county fire department
let the town burn on purpose. Now that's a reasonable conclusion.
If you get one fire truck and the other side
of town gets sixty four. They're white and wealthier, you're
black and poor. Nobody shows up for I don't know how,
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I mean twelve hours, seventeen hours. Anthony Moroney, the LA
Fire chief, says the lack of fire treeks fire trucks
in West Altadena probably boiled down to human error. Human
error by the fire officials. Well, what are their names?
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And how is that an error? You could see that
the fire was burning on the west side. Is it
really hard to say, oh, wow, look at the fire
there on the west side, we should send trucks.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, I don't know. How do you make a mistake
on that?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Fire officials, some of them had the job to decide
where the trucks should move. They had this unified incident command,
county officials and other agencies.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now, listen to Maroney. This is classic.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
This is classic bureaucrat politician BS. What you do is
you ask a lot of questions. Now you're supposed to
answer the questions, right, and instead, you know, a reporter says,
well what happened? And Maroney goes, why didn't we do
a better job of dividing resources between the East and
West Altadena? Right, that's a fair question. What was going on?
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What were people doing?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Don't know?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You tell me what was going on? What were people doing? Instead,
he asked these rhetorical questions. You must know by now
it's been six and a half months. Then he's got
more questions. Did people who were working the west side
not accurately communicate the dire circumstances they were faced with? Well,
(09:08):
tell us why, wait, he's got more. Was there a
lack of resources or were both sides of the fire
equally challenging. Well, he's offered five major questions. And then
he goes, I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Know, it's been six months.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was watching the fire from their unified command all night.
He was making decisions about who's supposed to go where.
Six and a half months later, he goes, oh, well,
I've got all these questions. Huh, I don't know what
the hell out of all those questions. I don't know
which one of those it is. It's probably a little
(09:51):
bit of all that. Here's an answer. Huh. Gets thrown
a whole bunch of questions to confuse everybody and say, wow,
it was all that was everything. It doesn't explain sixty
four trucks on the east side, one truck on the
west side.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He said, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Possible other fire agencies sent trucks to West Altadena, but
his department didn't track their locations.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You guys have radios.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It says the cascade of events began when the LA
Fire Department failed to pre deploy fire trucks to the
Pallesides to the Palisades admid dire wind warnings, so the
county was forced to pitch in. But West Altadena suffered
from more than being the last place to catch fire.
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The vehicle locator data points to a failure within the
incident command coordinating the county's response, led that night by Oh,
we have a couple of names here, Deputy fire chiefs
Elane at Papas and Albert Janaga Sawa. They were the
ones in charge. They were supposed to be sending the
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fire trucks into the right sections, and I guess they didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Doesn't say it clearly, tell you more we come back.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
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six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I was telling you about the La Times investigation.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It turned out if you were in West Altadena, boy,
were you screwed over by the La County Fire Department.
They almost literally sent you nobody. They sent one county
firetruck one and that had eighteen of the nineteen deaths
from that fire in Altadena. One at three o'clock in
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the morning. Now, I told you that Thingy Maroney, the
La County fire chief, who has escaped much scrutiny, unlike
Kristin Kristin Crowley, Yeah, the LA City fire chief. But
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he didn't seem to have no idea what's going on?
According to the story, he just asked. He asked a
bunch of obvious questions. Why didn't we do a better job?
What was going on? What were the people doing well?
What were hundreds and hundreds of firefighters and probably dozens
of supervisors? What were you doing? One former La City
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Fire Department commander said, the data that he looked at
because the La Times got this vehicle locator data, showed
that too many firefighters were deployed like moths to a candle.
In other words, they swarmed the flames that were immediately
in front of them. But he said, somebody had to
stand back and look at the big picture. It takes
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leadership situational awareness to say, hey, guys, I understand you
guys are fighting the fire there, but I don't need
you there. Based on the map, you look at the weather,
the rate of the fire spread, the nine to one
one calls, I need you to defend the homes in
this other place, right, So you're not only looking at
where it is now, but you're using all the weather
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and fire spread information which is available, and this automatic
vehicle locator data. They use GPS coordinates to pinpoint every
time a truck stopped. Now, some of the people who
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were affected, this is heartbreaking stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So while the La County public officials were dithering around,
and while some of the fire trucks were sent to
La City because Bass and Kristen Crowley were incompetent and unprepared,
look what happened to regular people. Anthony Mitchell Senior. This
is West Altadena, sixty eight year old amputee. His son
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has cerebral palsy. They called nine to one one three times,
no aid came.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
They died. Uh Monterrosa Drive.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Victor Shaw, aged sixty six, died trying to fight the
flames with a garden hose. A neighbor called nine one
one on Tanya Avenue. Arlene Kelly, eighty three years old,
died after calling nine one one twice. Her son, Trevor Kelly,
tried to rescue her at six in the morning. He
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was inching through oily black smoke was too thick to
even see what the truck's high beams, and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
All this time later, there's no explanation.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Of course, they have investigations going on, but six and
a half months is enough. It's like, what's this other
thing I've got here? Newsom has got an investigation that
they're going to announce soon all the things his administration
did right and wrong about the COVID lockdown, now in
twenty twenty five, five and a half years after he
(15:25):
started the lockdown.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I think it's gonna be one thousand pages.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
In this report, A thousand pages.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Something like that. Very comprehensive, John, I bet you.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's very complicated, so people get bored very quickly. Do
you think this report is going to be an honest
assessment in Gavin Nuwsan's performance. What are the odds of that,
as he prepares his presidential run, that we are going
to hear all the things Gavin new Some did wrong
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back in twenty twenty or.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
All the things that he told us to do that
he didn't do.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, you know what, maybe I'm sure maybe there's probably
some websites that track him. I think, actually, Katie Grimes,
he has kept a running list of every stupid thing
he's done over the last six and a half years,
because people need reminders. This news cycle is so fast.
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I mean, I can't remember by the end of our
show what we did at the beginning of the show,
and the next day forget about it. And if I'm
forgetting it, you probably forget a lot of the stuff
that you're reading, all right, because it's like a constant
fire hose. I know everybody listening is forgetting this, and
you have to go back and actually list and read
(16:52):
the list out loud to refresh your memory what the
last five and a half years have been like, because
life change dramatically.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Once that lockdown hit, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Then we you know it's that, and then all the
stupid George Floyd protests and all the businesses closing and
the riots that summer, and the restaurants were all shut down,
and so many people lost their businesses, and so many
schools were shut down for a year and a half,
and so many kids lost really got brain damaged from
(17:25):
a lack of education for a year and a half.
And it's just been all these dominans falling ever since.
Now you know, Newsom is finally he did what he
wanted to do. The oil industry is shutting down, by
the way. We're gonna talk a lot about that after
three o'clock with Michael mcche, the USC professor, because yesterday
big news at the end of the day was Newsom
(17:46):
is frantically trying to get a buyer for the Valero
oil refinery in Benetia, which is closing in April, and
between that and the second refinery that's closing in Wilmington
is going to be eight bucks a gallon. In fact,
the state's own estimate now is eight bucks a gallon,
all right, the state is saying it's eight dollars. That's
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why he's frantically trying to find a buyer because for years,
what I read one story is yeah, we're down to
about seven. We'll be down to about seven refineries. So
be listening. After three o'clock we'll delve into this and well, see,
I don't know, does anything happen to all these LA
(18:28):
County Fire department chiefs and commanders and this, and then
does anything happen to them?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I think they have to come out against people and
then they'll get fired because look what happened to Crowley.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh if they all right, they.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Have to talk badly about politicians and then they'll be fired.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Right right. You know the LA County Supervisor Board, those geniuses.
You know, that's how they're hiding. They don't say anything.
What's their role, what's their role in not having the
fire department prepared. I'm gonna keep going after all these people.
I'm not this this ding. I don't care if it
takes ten years. I'm not letting all this rest. They
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they have destroyed a lot of the city in the county,
not just with the fire, but with all kinds of
other garbage, nonsense policies.
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Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yes, I just just to follow up. I found the story.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You're right, thousand pages for Governor Newsom's COVID nineteen investigative
report California Health and Human Services and independent experts, experts,
and uh, it's gonna come out within a month. And uh,
(20:08):
he actually admitted this on one of those idiot podcasts
he's been doing. Now what I think Katie Grimes wrote this,
She was wondering, are they gonna do an investigation of
him going to the French laundry in traveling to Mexico? Him? Oh,
that billion dollar, the billion dollar Chinese mask scandal. Remember
(20:32):
he spent a billion dollars in tax money for Chinese masks.
The thirty one billion dollars that we blew on unemployment fraud,
his multiple failed homeless COVID housing plans.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I didn't even know what that is.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Wasn't his Uh doesn't he have a winery or something?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, And his kid's private schools were open. This is
what hit me the other day is he let the
public schools stay closed while his own kids are going
to a private school. And nobody at the private school,
nothing bad happened to them, right, Nobody got sick, nobody died.
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If they got sick, it was very minor. So he's
got this in his face every day his kid he's
helping his kids off to school presumably every day, and
every day they're coming home from school, and it didn't
occur to him like, wow, there's millions of kids who
can't go because of me, because of me, millions.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But obviously he.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Had a test case right in his right in his
kitchen every morning that nothing bad was happening for kids
to go to school.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
He can't go home, or he didn't. We didn't know
about the research, you know, we had to take some
time and do study. No, your study was your own
children at your own kitchen table.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
In the morning, having breakfast, and then they'd come home
to have dinner, and they'd tell you what went.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
On at school.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Well, all the people at the French laundry also presumably survived.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That was my question that nobody's ever asked him. If
you thought it was such a deadly disease, you were
not nervous at all being stuck in that that that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Room, because they were in a private room. It was
entirely enclosed.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
They were all bunched up together, about a dozen of them,
at a small table. Nobody's wearing masks. It's like if
you believed that it was. It was so deadly and
so easy to get. Why weren't you nervous that night? Instead,
they're all drinking wine. And he's got health officials like
from the from the industry that he that the lobbyists
from the health industry that he's drinking the line with,
(22:44):
like I, you know, as much of a as much
abuse as he got, he didn't get enough right just
to go in a different direction for a minute. They
caught the guy who was hurling concrete blocks at the
federal agents during the Ice riots. You know the reason
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we got the National Guarden. They finally arrested him. He'd
run over the border into Mexico. His name is Elpedio Rena.
He was on the FBI's most wanted list for throwing
the concrete blocks at the agents. Border patrol officer took
him into custody. And he's thirty nine years old. Thirty
(23:30):
nine years old and he's throwing concrete. What God knows
what kind of crimes this animals committed in his life.
I wonder who his rap sheet is. I wonder how
many times he's spun through the system here thirty nine?
What I mean that is violent insanity, picking.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Up concrete blocks, throwing him at cops.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
SA Anyway, they sent out a lot of images of him,
and guess what.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
One of the images, he's got a mask up to
his nose. Well you can see his eyes. It's like
the agents are not allowed to.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Have masks, but this guy who's trying to kill them,
he was wearing a mask. They got him at the
sand you see, you're a point of entry, and Bill Saley,
the US attorney, said, uh, he was taken into custody
by a Porta Patrol officer who was inside one of
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the vehicles that Raina had thrown the concrete blocks at originally.
So he's he's going to get the book thrown at him.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
This guy named Mike Davis, who's written a piece at
the Federalist dot com. You. A week or two ago,
I think Karen Vass held a press conference and announced
that you know, she was angry over the ice ra
it's the only thing that gets her upset. And she
announced a plan to hand out cash cards a couple
of hundred dollars to illegal aliens. And everybody's wondering where
(25:09):
you're getting the money. It's not tax money, it's from
philanthropic groups. Immigrants rights groups will handle it. See she's
fully in support of the network of illegal alien charity groups,
many of them who get tax money from people well.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Mike Davis points out that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Providing for illegal immigrants, giving them cash, food, or resources
is a federal crime, and he lists the Federal Code
eight USC one three two four. It's called harboring illegal immigrants,
and he says the law is not aimed at restaurant
owners or grocery clerks. Lawmakers designed it to stop politicians
(25:54):
and activists who deliberately help illegal immigrants. So with Bass
getting money from philanthro philanthropists and giving it out through
these immigrant rights groups, David says, this is a blatant
violation of federal law. They're not helping needy people at random.
(26:14):
They're specifically helping people who enter or remain in the
US illegally. That is harboring and the Department of Justice,
he says, should open an immediate investigation who's funding this scheme.
There should be indictments for the donors and the activists,
and if Bass or any other officials organize this operation,
(26:35):
they need to face the consequences. He's right, that is
the federal law, all these immigrant rights groups can be
charged with federal crimes. He says, this is a test
of whether the law means anything anymore. If an a
regular American did this, he'd get thrown in jail. So
why should a politician or liberal billionaire funded activist groups
get a free pass. Well, that's what would happened. When
(26:59):
I say, say, you're standing in all these press conference,
it hit me, it's like you should You're not allowed
to do that. But nobody's got the guts to actually
charge these groups, do the investigation.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It won't be hard to prove and arrest her.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What you need is one politician in one of these
cities to get arrested by one of the charged by
one of the US attorneys one, and that'll stop this
nonsense real fast, because they all are breaking the law.
Nobody's got the guts to do this. Now, when we
come back, I have a heartwarming story about just how
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horrible that L. Salvador prison is the one, the one
that Trump sent illegal aliens to, who, even by my standards,
this may me flinch. Yeah, you do not want to
end up on a plane to the L. Salador in
Supermac's prison. That's that and and once you get there
you really need to behave I'll tell you all about it.
(28:03):
Of course I find.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
All this funny.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I know you do.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
We only need less than fifty followers, and we hit
thirty thousand, and there's no price for this. But we'll
be happy here if you just follow us on social media.
It's actually only thirty now, thirty people, yep, oh, come on,
that should be no problem, Bolo. You know, after a
while you get people who don't know what social media
(28:32):
is or don't have phones or something like that coming
up after three o'clock. And this really is the big
story of the day, and we did a lot of
this in the one o'clock hour.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Real deal.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Gas prices could hit eight dollars a gallon early next
year because they are closing two refineries in California. One
is in Bentiate, it's the Valero refinery. And now, now,
after all these years of punishing the oil companies with
all their regulation and taxes, Newsom is panicking because he
(29:07):
can't run for president because this campaign would start next year.
He can't run for President, and while gas is hitting
eight dollars a gallon in his state, what's he going
to do?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Now, he's frantically trying to find a buyer for the
Valero Benetia refinery. But no oil company is going to
take that over if it means they're going to lose
all the money that the Llo is losing. So he
would have to scrap a lot of his regulations, all
that climate change garbage, and scrap all those taxes.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So that's going to be very entertaining. All right.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Now, we were telling you about they caught the illegal
alien who threw these cement blocks at an ICE agent.
They caught him over the border, well actually at the
Sane Sidro border border station the Atlantic. This is this
is the headline that caught my eye. You're writing headlines
(30:04):
for a living. This made me stop. No one was
supposed to leave alive, don't dun't dun Yeah, And I thought, oh,
this sounds good, this sounds like something entertaining. Uh So
it's about the Venezuelan illegal aliens. Most of the criminals
that we sent to El Salvador to that supermax prison.
(30:25):
We paid the l Salvador and President six million dollars.
Take all these guys, and these were a lot of them,
were trend to irod with gang members and similar similar species.
So some of these Venezuelans they got they got tired
of the way they were being treated. Yeah, they did
something stupid. They tried to break the locks on their cells.
(30:47):
They grabbed metal rails from their beds and tried to
smash the locks. Now they had no chance of escaping.
They were just acting out. But the punishments were pretty severe.
For six straight days, according to three inmates, they were
subjected to lengthy beatings. On the last day, the male
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guards brought in their female colleagues, female guards who struck
the naked prisoners while the male guards recorded videos and laughed.
They had their phones out recording the women beating the men.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's cold, yeah, but the women did it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
The women would count to twenty they as they administered
the beatings, and if the prisoners complained, they.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Would start again.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
In fact, if they cried out in any way, if
they cried out from pain. Uh, we're going back to one, one, two, three. Ah.
Although there are a lot of guys in LA who
would pay a lot of money to get beaten by
a female dressed up as a guard. Oh Martinez, one
of the inmates said, a prison nurse was watching and
(32:04):
she started cheering. She started shouting out, hit the pinata.
El Salvador is a tough place. That's a girl, that's
a nurse. Hit the pinnata. This is the complex on
a seacot and the country Security minister when they opened
(32:27):
it in twenty twenty three said you'd only be able
to get out of it inside a coffin, and in
fact that's pretty close to the truth. They have documented
case of prisoners being transported out of jail for urgent
medical care, probably beatings, and all the inmates died soon after,
(32:49):
and nobody was ever able to explain what was like inside.
Now that's when this president Bukayley, he decided that they
were just going to round up all the gang members
and all the bad guys on the streets because El
Salvador used to have one of the highest rates of
murder in the world. And you know what happened after
he did this massive round up. It was like thousands
(33:11):
of bad guys, murder rate drop a ninety seven percent.
Public's really happy.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Imagine that.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Imagine ninety seven percent of the murder rate disappears. And
so I look at the US with its justice systems,
prison system, and I'm thinking, No, I like l Salvador.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm serious, it works in El Salvador. What do we
need this for. I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I don't want to hear about rehabilitation, restorative justice and
all diversion programs. No, put him in prison forever and
give give the women metal rails to beat them with.
Let the nurses cheer them on. Yeah, President Ai Bukyley.
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Men are cramped to cells, bare metal bunk beds stacked
to the ceiling, but human shelving.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
The No.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
If you've seen the videos and these guys of the photos,
no you haven't. You looked them up, They're there.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
They all.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Many of these guys are almost entirely encased in tattoos.
Their heads are shaven, so from from their feet all
the way up to the top of their heads, everything's green.
They look like frightening aliens. And they all have these
tattooed designs over their whole body. They usually are laid
out in their tidy whities, that's all they're wearing. So
(34:34):
it's tidy whities, tattoos covering every square inch and uh.
And so the Salvadoran government has turned the prison into
a kind of a museum where all these, according to
this writer, where all of Boucheli's tactics can be exhibited
for the press. So they like to show off how
(34:57):
awful the conditions are. And some of the prisoners, some
of the prisoners that were sent by the Trump administration
have been let out, and the Venezuelan president negotiated a
prisoner swap with the US, so there were ten American
(35:20):
citizens released from Venezuela in exchange for some of the
Venezuelans in Al Salvador. And so they're the ones who
told the stories of the beatings and the harsh treatment.
Four former prisoners said they were punched, kicked, struck with clubs,
They were cut off from contact with their families, no
(35:41):
legal help, taunted by guards. They would spend days in
a punishment cell known as the Island, a dark room
with no water. They slept on the floor. So what's
your problem, how about their doing it? If you're in there,
don't try to smash the locks of the cell door.
(36:07):
And you know they have various sob stories here, I'm
telling you there's not one person listing right now who
you would not Almost every one of you would enjoy
life if this is how we treated prisoners in this country.
Just lock them up for good, beat the crap out
(36:29):
of them.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Cots.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We know that they're truly guilty, because you know, I
have watched some of those those movies Presumed Innocent and
whatever those movies are where you know that you do
the DNA testing and it turns out that somebody was
wrongfully accused. So that's that's my only issue. But people
that truly have committed these heinous crimes, I don't care
what happens.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
This is what Coburger should get.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Coburger should have a day as a pinata Menandez brothers,
they should have gotten thirty five years.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Worth of this. Instead, it's like, oh, if kid so
I have to get out.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I think he had one or two surgeries.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Eric zero sympathy. I have lost all my sympathy and
empathy for bad guys. No, there is no punishment, no torture.
That's too much for me.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you want to watch it though, certain guys? Yeah,
I wouldn't be squeamish.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I am squeamish. I don't like violence at all, Okay,
I almost never watch violence.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Okay, so you probably wouldn't want to watch, but.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
If they deserved it, I get it, you know, I
get it. That's the exception. Coburger. Yeah, I could watch that.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, I could get in line.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I was gonna say, are you going to party?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
If it's hit the Pinata time and it's a guy
like Coburger, I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
In Eric would be loving putting that on social media.
John whacking Coburger.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We'd get a lot of likes when we come back.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Michael MChE on the California gas prices could hit eight
a gallon those those refineries really are closing, and the
one in Benetia Valero is closing, and Governor Newsom's in
a panic.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
He's trying to get some.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Company to buy it because he knows where the gas
prices are going. Deborah Mark Live in the KFI twenty
four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John
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