December 18, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (12/18) - ABC News crime and terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins the show to talk about the psychological profiles of people after the Nick Reiner arrest. New information on the Brown University shooter has come out. More on the Minnesota taxpayer funds fraud scam.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We have way more
material than showed today, so we're gonna jump right into this.
We have Brad Garrett, who has been with us a
number of times. He's the ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst.
(00:21):
Two things we're going to talk about. First thing, Nick Reiner,
and then this Brown University shooting, which has some breaking
news in just the last hour. But first talk about
Nick Reiner, who killed, as you know, Rob and Michelle Rider,
his parents in Brentwood. And it's fairly rare. Children killing
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their parents is only one to two percent of the
annual hobbits homicides, and killing both parents at the same
time is even smaller. Let's get let's get Brad Garrett on. Brad,
how are you good? John?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
This is really rare, and this is stunts and scares
anybody who's a parent, anybody who has a troubled kid
or a kid who has drugs or emotional disorders. It's like, oh, oh,
what signs ought to be ought? I be looking for
what set him off? Talk about the possible background triggers
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that would cause Nick ryder to do what he did.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So I think you have to start with longevity here
of addiction, which, again by his own words and what
we've been we've worn publicly, is that he's been addicted
since he was a young teenager. I think he's even
stated publicly. I think by fourteen he'd been to a
number of rehabs. I mean, that's a big statement for
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a fourteen year old to say. But you know, if
you jump ahead that he's now thirty two, So you
now have sixteen years so to speak of using drugs
off and on about John what that does do the
chemistry and your brain, and you know it's going to
add to whatever troubles you may already have as far
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as depression, anxiety, feel like you don't fit in, and
now you're addicted to drugs that you just sort of
get lost in. And you've got you from a wealthy
family that can afford to support you, which you know
can be good news and bad news. So as you
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progress through fifteen years, things are going to further If
you don't change your behavior, things are going to further deteriorate.
You're going to become more anxious, more depressed, more angry,
more hostile, wanting to argue all the time because you're
you're basically trying to get somebody else to give you
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whatever you want when you want it. And you know,
most of the literature would suggest you have to set
firm boundaries with kids. This is not a criticism of
anybody who was involved in raising Nick. I'm only saying
is you have to try some of those things, and
I'm sure they did. But the problem is that, you know,
I worked with drug addicts. I mean I doubled a
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lot of when I was in the FBI. Before the FBI,
I was a probation parole officer and I had a
number of addicted clients, paroles, et cetera that I had
to deal with. And they're just a nightmare. And they're
also a nightmare for their families because they're so dependent,
they're so needy, and they're not nice about it. And
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so as time went on, he's now, you know, thirty two,
and you know, he doesn't have a job, he has
no employment history, he has no education, he has really
you know, he is really, really a deep hole for himself.
And if you add to that super successful parents and
grand and grandfather that it even makes him, I presume,
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again based on his own words, you know, feel really inadequate.
But what do you do? But you focus that anger
and rage on the two people who have supported you
and cared for you more than anybody else, which is
his parents. Something set him off that led to him
committing this, You know, it's kind of beyond that are
horrendous homicide most kids until their parents shoot them. He
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chose to stab them, which is highly personal, takes longer.
You're literally looking eyeball to eyeball. So the level of
rage that he had when this occurred is off the charts.
And then there's video of what hours later, at four
o'clock in the morning, by a soda at a gas station.
So it gives you an idea of sort of maybe
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the level of antisocialness in his personality that's going on,
which is totally common with drug addicted people. And you
could be born that way, well, you could certainly be
born to be prone to addiction. There is there is
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Severe antisocial personality. I mean, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's what whoever stabbed these two clearly was that. Yeah,
obviously Nick has been charged with that, but you know,
we don't know. You know, we don't know the fact
set right.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh And and and they're also I always thought, because
you know, we have this homeless problem, right, so we
see crazy people in the streets all the time, is
that they have some kind of mental disorder. They treat
it with drugs which makes it worse, or they're on drugs,
and that create over time, that creates a mental disorder.
Like you said, Nick Reiner, taking drugs for over fifteen years,
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that's going to cause brain damage.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I would think, well, right, and it's going to affect
chemically your brain to even reduce further your impulse control.
And you know you're going to jump from anxiety to
depression to feeling inadequate to then being mad and then
being super mad when you don't get what you want
because of whatever you've bended, ended money, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And if his parents did try everything for you know,
two decades, why does he turn on them so viciously?
What is the trigger for that? I mean, they're the
only ones really on his side the entire time. I'm
sure everybody else in life drifted away or ran away.
Why why why kill them?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Because they're not giving him what he wants and something happened,
whether that's supposedly a party that they were at on
Saturday night, Did something trigger him there to the level
of rage? You know? Did he feel rejected? Did he
feel inadequate? Probably, He's around a lot of high profile,
well known people at this party, you know. And then
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he was again I don't know if it's true or not,
then he was asked to leave. So is that the trigger?
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Of course I see it. I'm feeling like a huge loser,
not only within the family, but in the larger social circle.
I mean, most of the people that his parents dealt
with had his friends and associates were also really successful.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Exactly so, and that pushes him further away, and it
makes him more angry. And you really have to go
back to what we talked about earlier, is the antisocial
aspect of the personality of the person who committed this crime.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
All right, let me just spend a couple of minutes
on this Brown University shooting. There were two killed and
nine injured. Then on Monday and MIT professor was shot,
and just in the last hour, ABC has reported that
there may be a link between the two shootings, that
might be the same guy and they think they have
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an ID on him. You know anything about this? I
know the news just broke.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's what I know also, And so you have to
think about this. I'm going to sort of put you
in the investigator agent mode here. What do they have
at I T that has gotten them onto somebody? I
think they have a car description, I assume that was
pulled off a camera. Do they have a tag number.
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Have they been successful with shellcasings to get DNA finger fingerprints,
et cetera. Have they been able to match up the casings,
because you know, when you fire a weapon that leads
the unique markings on the end of the shellcasing. Have
they matched the two in other words, matched Providence to
MI T. So they got they have some comfort level
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that whoever they're looking for as we speak is connected
to both shootings. So this is the break you always
look for in a case. So I guarantee you that
every bit of their energy is going into you know
what they can pull up on this guy. Where could
he be? Obviously there'd be a lookout for whatever car
he was in. If he's smart, he's gotten rid of
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that car, But who knows, and he will see. I
mean this may have some resolution soon. Hopefully that's the case.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right, Brad Garrett, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're welcome to take care John.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And he's ABC New, ABC News Crime and Terrorism Analyst
and uh yeah, Monday night. MIT Professor n No I
get his name right. I don't know how to pronounce this.
Luririo found shot in his home in a suburb of Boston, Brookline,
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and he died Tuesday at the hospital. So you have
two dead at Brown and now MIT Professor dead at
his home and they think it's the same guy. And
you heard Brad go through some of the clues that
could lead a lead investigators to think that. When we
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come back, Brad talked a lot about Nick Reiner's mental disorder,
mental illness, perhaps born with an anti social personality disorder.
There are more stories coming out about him growing up
and the way he acted, and I think this is
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the bad seed theory. It looks I think he was
born pretty crazy and probably took drugs to quiet all
the demons. We'll talk about it we come back.
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We had Brad Garrett on last segment from ABC News,
the crime and terrorism analysts, talking about the psychological profiles
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of people who kill their parents. There's three categories. Either
severely abused kids who lash out, or you're born with
an anti personality disorder, anti an anti social personality disorder.
You just come out and you're an angry guy. You
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don't like people, the world bugs you. You you don't
you don't make friends, you don't like your family, you
don't get along.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Then another category, which is which is somewhat different, and
that's somebody with with severely mentally ill you know, that
could be something like schizophrenia. For example, by polar disorder
and other related mental illness, which is different from just
being born with a maybe a violent, aggressive personality and
you just don't like anything or anybody, and you're always resistant,
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You're always making a fuss, always a ruckus. It's not
the same as, you know, being schizophrenic. Obviously. Now the
stories are coming out as friends who knew the Reiner
family and they knew, you know, just countless people. New
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York Post says that Nick Reiner threw terrifying tantrums as
a child, and then as he started using drugs, they escalated.
A lifelong friend told The Daily Mail that Nick Reiner
would get so violent he had to be physically held
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back by his father. Many of the family fights, he said, quote,
had to do with Nick just doing something self destructive
and fighting back when they tried to help him. I
was over there. It must have been the early two thousands,
because he was about eleven and he was throwing the
biggest tantrum and Rob Rder just had him in a
bear hud trying to restrain him. The tantrum was over nothing,
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but he had so much anger in his eyes. It
was just terrifying. And this happened a lot, and he
never outgrew it. He had tantrums in his twenties. Now
you'll imagine, you know, and you could always judge. You
can always judge when a child maybe comes out as
a bad seed. When you look a look at the siblings, right,
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obviously the brother and sister are much more peaceful people.
But then Nick comes out and it's crazy land. And
it was always crazy land. And there's no way to
fix a personality disorder if you're born with it. And
because there's so much noise in your head and you
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feel so much discomfort and aggression, you try to numb yourself.
You try to anesthetize yourself so you don't feel it,
so maybe you don't act as crazy. And then you
go down that road, and the personality disorder feeds the
drug addiction. The drug addition aggravates the personality disorder. And
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the one thing that people never want to confront because
we have very much a free drug society. Leave people alone,
let them do what they want to do. This stuff
causes brain damage. There's increasing studies that I'm reading that
even smoking too much pot causes brain damage. Cocaine, you know,
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the prescription drugs are a whole other matter. A lot
of those prescription drugs way over prescribed by doctors who
I assume are taking kickbacks the way they took kickbacks
when they were handing out opioids like candy back in
the nineties. And if you want to see how that
dirty business works, there was a series on Hulu a
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few years ago. It was called Dope Sick, and it
showed you what the pharmaceutical industry was like, what the
medical industry was like, where doctors would be taken on
junkets for weekends in big cities or beautiful places, and
they could eat and drink all they want, and they
had a lot of pretty girls available and all they
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had to do is keep prescribing the opioids. And I
always noticed I noticed this years ago, but Jerr, we
were sitting in a doctor's office when the pharmaceutical representative
showed up, and it was almost always a beautiful young woman.
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I used to start cracking up when they walked in.
I mean, I mean seriously stunning, and she'd be dressed
profession only, but she'd be carrying a rolling suitcase with
her with samples, and then she and the doctor would
disappear for a while. It's like, how is it because
that's not a glamorous job, right, I mean, you expect
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actresses and models to look like this. How is it
that that this is a glamorous jow job possibility for
for beautiful young women to roll a suitcase filled with
drug samples. But that was part of the marketing that
the pharmaceutical companies use to uh get doctors in a
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good mood at least to look at the pretty girls.
It's it's it's really really a dirty, ugly, gross business.
And the furnace pharmaceutical companies intentionally want to addict people
to their to their prescription medicines, and that's why so
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many people are on some you know, some form of
tranquilizers or some form of uppers or downers or anti
depressive medicine. They pushed that hard. You see the ads
on television. It's just another big racket and they make
billions and people are very susceptible. They think, well, you know,
the doctor prescribed and I'm not feeling good, and you know,
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I don't know how to make myself feel better. It's
and then the story about eight years ago, Rob Reiner's
son destroyed his parents' house. People magazine as this the
guest house that he lived in frequently, and this is
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from Nick's own testimony. There's a podcast called Dopey about
dealing with drug addiction twenty eighteen, and Nick said there
was a moment the year before, in twenty seventeen that
he was quote totally spun out on uppers and destroyed
his parents' guest house. And one of the hosts asked
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him about his time sequestered in the guest house, and
Nick said, yeah, I wrecked it while on meth. I
went ten rounds with my guest house. It's not much
of a story. I got totally spun out on uppers.
I think it was coke and something else, and I
was up for days on end. I started punching different
things in the guest house. I started with the TV,
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and then I went over to the lamp, and eventually
everything in the guest house got wrecked. He doesn't remember
if he heard himself. There wasn't any logic at all
that you can remember. He was just in a crazy state,
and his parents had told him he had to go
before that happened, so I guess they wanted him tossed
from the guest house, and that was his reaction, which
is the reaction of a two year old. Apparently he
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didn't come out of the two year old tantrum phase.
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John Cobelt Show. All right, we had Brad Garrett on earlier.
(19:19):
One of the things we talked about, who's from ABC News,
is about this latest Bolton coming out of Massachusetts, actually
from Rhode Island. It looks like that that suspect in
the Brown University shooting and he killed two and wounded
nineteen others. It looks like he's not only a mass killer,
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he may be a serial killer because they believe that
he is connected to the killing of an MI I
T professor, which happened Monday. Because Brown is in Providence,
Rhode Island, MIT is in the Boston area and in Brookline,
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a Boston suburb, an unidentified killer entered the home of
a professor named Nuno Loerero. Larrero originally from Portugal. His
home is on Gibbstreet in Brookline. Professor was shot multiple
times and he was quite the figure in his field.
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Lourero was selected last year to lead the Plasma Science
Infusion Center, working on advanced clean energy technology, and in
January of last year, no, maybe this year, Joe Biden
awarded Loerero and four hundred other scientists with the Presidential
Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineer Engineers. So it
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was quite accomplished. There's no motive for any of this stuff.
But they the police are now saying that they have
id'd this suspect and they have a warrant out for
the arrest. I guess they have enough evidence between the
shootings and maybe more video and they've been able to
make the connection. But he's still on the loose, he's
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still at large. Brown University is under a lot of
fire because they charge a lot of money for tuition.
I don't know exactly, but probably you know, eighty thousand
dollars range or more, and for that kind of money.
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They have a nine billion dollar endowment, You think that
have security cameras everywhere, especially in the age of school shootings.
I mean, the school shooting craze has now been going
on for over twenty five years. Well, Brown University, they
had a press conference and the reporters are getting increasingly
aggressive with the with the administrators. And I play a
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clip here and two things got me. First of all,
you'll hear him questioning the lack of security cameras in
the building where the shooting happened. But watch the way
the reporter almost apologizes for asking the question. And this
should be cut too. You could play cut number two, Sorr.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I asked this question on it a deep respects, but
I asked it for a lot of parents.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Who were frustrated, who reached out to me.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So please keep that in mind.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And they want to know how at school with a
nine billion dollar endowment does not have cameras on one
of the older buildings at the edge of the camera,
the edge of the campus where this happened, not even
in the front door.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Who's coming and going now?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
They asked this question knowing that the shooter may have
done whatever You wanted, but the.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Cameras A would have deterred or B captured. I better
look at them, and we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Today five days out.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I want you to explain that.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Because there's a lot of parents who are wondering, where
are you investing your money?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, I appreciate that question, and I want to reiterate
as our president did, listen to our students and communicating
to the parents, to our community about our support is
of most importance. We have twelve hundred cameras located throughout
the campus. We don't publish the locations of the cameras.
That would give a map to somebody to evade detection
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on the cameras, So that would be counterproductive to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Way, we stopped there, stop there. That was a nonsense answer.
Eating asked why didn't you publish where all the cameras are?
Question was why didn't you have cameras at the entrance,
even at the front door of this older building which
was part of a complex. That was the question. First
of all, he starts off with those boiler plate Oh, yes,
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you know, it's the most importance to communicate to our community.
You know, It's like when they say the safety is
the first priority of our passengers. Yeah, while the plane
is as a burning wreck on the runway, safety is
always our first priority. Well not there, same thing here?
What's with your communication? He didn't answer the question. He
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actually says that and then proceeds not to answer. And
then if you go back to the beginning of the
reporter's question, I asked this question as of deep respect.
I asked it for a lot of parents who are frustrated,
who reached out to me. Please keep that in mind.
What are you doing ask the freaking question? Just start.
All you have to do is say, instead of that preamb,
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but instead of that prayer, just say, how does the
school with a nine billion dollar endowment not have cameras
on the older buildings, not even on the front door.
How's that happen? That's the question? Do you Why are
you afraid of offending one of these He is a
college administrator, he's not Jesus Christ. Oh, you know, out
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a detrius respect. I want you to understand. Please keep
that in mind. Don't get offended, don't get angry with me. God,
these reporters are such whimps. They are soggy whimps. Probably
the rest of his not answer.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That would give a map to somebody to evade detection
on the cameras, So that would be counterproductive to do that.
There are cameras in this building, and as I answered
the previous question, we have turned over all evidence that
we were holding it round to law enforcement and are
cooperating fully with them.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
So you're seeing that they were amazing with cameras in
the building. I was told yesterday there wasn't cameras in
the building. Attorney General said, old building, no cameras attached
to a new building with cameras.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I believe he said that there were two different phases
of the building that might have two different levels of technology,
and all video imagery has been turned over to law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. Well, finally,
the reporter snapped into duty there, it doesn't make sense. Yeah,
that doesn't make sense. Well, he gave a whole bunch
of nonsense answers, didn't he Yes, the Attorney General said
there were no cameras. Well, I think the Attorney General
said there were two levels of technology. It's like, yeah,
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one building had lots of cameras and one building had
no cameras. Yeah, I guess you're right. That's two levels
of technology. And we're not going to tell people where
our cameras are. You had nothing to tell them. There
were no cameras, there was no video. Now this is
like day five. We've all seen the available video. There
is no recording of him walking into the building, or
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coming down the hallway, or entering that classroom. Why didn't
you install it? Guarding that nine billion dollars in down
it pretty closely? Huh? How much would a few extra
cameras cost? Why are university officials just uniformly such double
talking weasels. It's always Kamala Harris time. When they speak,
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it's always a big bowl word salad coming out of
their mouth. Why can't you just answer straight? First of all,
there's no excuse for not having the cameras. That's severely stupid. Anyway,
he went on now to shoot an MIT professor to death.
But they think they got a name. They're not releasing
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the name yet.
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We're gonna have Daniel guss on. Well, we have another
corrupt La City councilman who's been fined one hundred and
thirty eight thousand dollars. Another one, we'll tell you who
he is and what he did. That's coming up after
two o'clock with Daniel Guss and he's got his own
Substack news site that you should go see. Let me
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let me tell you about the latest in the Minnesota
fraud case, because you may have heard about how various
Somili Americans stole a billion dollars from taxpayers with all
kinds of welfare fake claims on welfare programs is the
quickest way to describe it. It looks like it's actually
two billion dollars at least. News has talked with the
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Minnesota state Senator Michael Kruhn and a former federal prosecutor
named Joe Tireb and it turns out the losses might
reach two billion dollars, and the state Senator, Michael Kruhn,
as a Republican, said the government was long aware of
the problem. Minnesota has an epidemic of fraud, as the
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rest of the nation is learning. These again are examples
of the incredibly corrupt. Really, they're like financial cancers. The
nonprofit industry we've known here in Minnesota for quite some time,
we had a massive fraud problem and it's the epicenter
of fraud in the United States right now. Here's here's
one of the cases. A woman named Asha Farhan Hassan
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created a a autism treatment program and defrauded the state.
The state. The state has a program so that residents
can used the money for their kids autism treatment, hasan
built Medicaid for fake therapy sessions used untrained staff, paid
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parents three hundred dollars. She paid the parents three hundred
to fifteen hundred dollars a month to keep their kids
on the phony program. Then she kept her cut hundreds
of thousands of dollars and sent that money abroad to
buy real estate and Kenya. The entire budget of Minnesota's
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autism program ballooned from three million in twenty eighteen, count
that one to two to three million, to four hundred
million five years later, four hundred million. And it was
so easy to carry out, according to the former prosecutor. Honestly,
how easy this fraud was to do. These fraudsters were
just saying they were spending all this money on feeding kids.
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That was another scam of feeding kids program. And all
they were doing was making up PDFs putting fake names
onto exl sheets. He said, I could do that in
five minutes on a computer if I'd absolutely no conscience,
And anybody in government who raised any issues they were ignored, reassigned,
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or sidelined. One of the suspects is Omar Fatah, involved
with Feeding Our Future, and he as well as a
city councilman in Minneapolis named Jamal Osman, they lobbied the
governor personally and said, hey, if you don't allow this,
that's racist. Because the Minnesota Department of Education briefly halted payments,
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and a city councilor actually walked in and said, if
you don't restart those payments, we're gonna call you racist.
And Tim Waltz said, ah, don't do that. Here, here's
the money. You believe that that's extortion. We're gonna call
you racist if you don't spend two billion dollars in
tax money on all our schemes that actually happened. According
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to this report, they personally lobbied Waltz by threatening him
with the word racism, and next thing you know, it's
two billion dollars out the door. God, and he was
so close to being vice president when we come back
Daniel Guss and he's the independent journalist here in Los Angeles,
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and he's going to tell us about another LA City
Council member corrupt taking goodies connected to Las Vegas, and
he's hit with a big fine. Hey, you've been listening
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Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We have way more
material than showed today, so we're gonna jump right into this.
We have Brad Garrett, who has been with us a
number of times. He's the ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst.
(00:21):
Two things we're going to talk about. First thing, Nick Reiner,
and then this Brown University shooting, which has some breaking
news in just the last hour. But first talk about
Nick Reiner, who killed, as you know, Rob and Michelle Rider,
his parents in Brentwood. And it's fairly rare. Children killing
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their parents is only one to two percent of the
annual hobbits homicides, and killing both parents at the same
time is even smaller. Let's get let's get Brad Garrett on. Brad,
how are you good? John?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Thanks?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
This is really rare, and this is stunts and scares
anybody who's a parent, anybody who has a troubled kid
or a kid who has drugs or emotional disorders. It's like, oh, oh,
what signs ought to be ought? I be looking for
what set him off? Talk about the possible background triggers
(01:21):
that would cause Nick ryder to do what he did.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So I think you have to start with longevity here
of addiction, which, again by his own words and what
we've been we've worn publicly, is that he's been addicted
since he was a young teenager. I think he's even
stated publicly. I think by fourteen he'd been to a
number of rehabs. I mean, that's a big statement for
(01:46):
a fourteen year old to say. But you know, if
you jump ahead that he's now thirty two, So you
now have sixteen years so to speak of using drugs
off and on about John what that does do the
chemistry and your brain, and you know it's going to
add to whatever troubles you may already have as far
(02:08):
as depression, anxiety, feel like you don't fit in, and
now you're addicted to drugs that you just sort of
get lost in. And you've got you from a wealthy
family that can afford to support you, which you know
can be good news and bad news. So as you
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progress through fifteen years, things are going to further If
you don't change your behavior, things are going to further deteriorate.
You're going to become more anxious, more depressed, more angry,
more hostile, wanting to argue all the time because you're
you're basically trying to get somebody else to give you
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whatever you want when you want it. And you know,
most of the literature would suggest you have to set
firm boundaries with kids. This is not a criticism of
anybody who was involved in raising Nick. I'm only saying
is you have to try some of those things, and
I'm sure they did. But the problem is that, you know,
I worked with drug addicts. I mean I doubled a
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lot of when I was in the FBI. Before the FBI,
I was a probation parole officer and I had a
number of addicted clients, paroles, et cetera that I had
to deal with. And they're just a nightmare. And they're
also a nightmare for their families because they're so dependent,
they're so needy, and they're not nice about it. And
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so as time went on, he's now, you know, thirty two,
and you know, he doesn't have a job, he has
no employment history, he has no education, he has really
you know, he is really, really a deep hole for himself.
And if you add to that super successful parents and
grand and grandfather that it even makes him, I presume,
(03:54):
again based on his own words, you know, feel really inadequate.
But what do you do? But you focus that anger
and rage on the two people who have supported you
and cared for you more than anybody else, which is
his parents. Something set him off that led to him
committing this, You know, it's kind of beyond that are
horrendous homicide most kids until their parents shoot them. He
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chose to stab them, which is highly personal, takes longer.
You're literally looking eyeball to eyeball. So the level of
rage that he had when this occurred is off the charts.
And then there's video of what hours later, at four
o'clock in the morning, by a soda at a gas station.
So it gives you an idea of sort of maybe
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the level of antisocialness in his personality that's going on,
which is totally common with drug addicted people. And you
could be born that way, well, you could certainly be
born to be prone to addiction. There is there is
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Severe antisocial personality. I mean, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's what whoever stabbed these two clearly was that. Yeah,
obviously Nick has been charged with that, but you know,
we don't know. You know, we don't know the fact
set right.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Uh And and and they're also I always thought, because
you know, we have this homeless problem, right, so we
see crazy people in the streets all the time, is
that they have some kind of mental disorder. They treat
it with drugs which makes it worse, or they're on drugs,
and that create over time, that creates a mental disorder.
Like you said, Nick Reiner, taking drugs for over fifteen years,
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that's going to cause brain damage.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I would think, well, right, and it's going to affect
chemically your brain to even reduce further your impulse control.
And you know you're going to jump from anxiety to
depression to feeling inadequate to then being mad and then
being super mad when you don't get what you want
because of whatever you've bended, ended money, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And if his parents did try everything for you know,
two decades, why does he turn on them so viciously?
What is the trigger for that? I mean, they're the
only ones really on his side the entire time. I'm
sure everybody else in life drifted away or ran away.
Why why why kill them?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Because they're not giving him what he wants and something happened,
whether that's supposedly a party that they were at on
Saturday night, Did something trigger him there to the level
of rage? You know? Did he feel rejected? Did he
feel inadequate? Probably, He's around a lot of high profile,
well known people at this party, you know. And then
(06:46):
he was again I don't know if it's true or not,
then he was asked to leave. So is that the trigger?
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Of course I see it. I'm feeling like a huge loser,
not only within the family, but in the larger social circle.
I mean, most of the people that his parents dealt
with had his friends and associates were also really successful.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Exactly so, and that pushes him further away, and it
makes him more angry. And you really have to go
back to what we talked about earlier, is the antisocial
aspect of the personality of the person who committed this crime.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
All right, let me just spend a couple of minutes
on this Brown University shooting. There were two killed and
nine injured. Then on Monday and MIT professor was shot,
and just in the last hour, ABC has reported that
there may be a link between the two shootings, that
might be the same guy and they think they have
(07:42):
an ID on him. You know anything about this? I
know the news just broke.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
That's what I know also, And so you have to
think about this. I'm going to sort of put you
in the investigator agent mode here. What do they have
at I T that has gotten them onto somebody? I
think they have a car description, I assume that was
pulled off a camera. Do they have a tag number.
(08:09):
Have they been successful with shellcasings to get DNA finger fingerprints,
et cetera. Have they been able to match up the casings,
because you know, when you fire a weapon that leads
the unique markings on the end of the shellcasing. Have
they matched the two in other words, matched Providence to
MI T. So they got they have some comfort level
(08:31):
that whoever they're looking for as we speak is connected
to both shootings. So this is the break you always
look for in a case. So I guarantee you that
every bit of their energy is going into you know
what they can pull up on this guy. Where could
he be? Obviously there'd be a lookout for whatever car
he was in. If he's smart, he's gotten rid of
(08:52):
that car, But who knows, and he will see. I
mean this may have some resolution soon. Hopefully that's the case.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
All right, Brad Garrett, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're welcome to take care John.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And he's ABC New, ABC News Crime and Terrorism Analyst
and uh yeah, Monday night. MIT Professor n No I
get his name right. I don't know how to pronounce this.
Luririo found shot in his home in a suburb of Boston, Brookline,
(09:28):
and he died Tuesday at the hospital. So you have
two dead at Brown and now MIT Professor dead at
his home and they think it's the same guy. And
you heard Brad go through some of the clues that
could lead a lead investigators to think that. When we
(09:49):
come back, Brad talked a lot about Nick Reiner's mental disorder,
mental illness, perhaps born with an anti social personality disorder.
There are more stories coming out about him growing up
and the way he acted, and I think this is
(10:11):
the bad seed theory. It looks I think he was
born pretty crazy and probably took drugs to quiet all
the demons. We'll talk about it we come back.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
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We had Brad Garrett on last segment from ABC News,
the crime and terrorism analysts, talking about the psychological profiles
(11:14):
of people who kill their parents. There's three categories. Either
severely abused kids who lash out, or you're born with
an anti personality disorder, anti an anti social personality disorder.
You just come out and you're an angry guy. You
(11:37):
don't like people, the world bugs you. You you don't
you don't make friends, you don't like your family, you
don't get along.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Then another category, which is which is somewhat different, and
that's somebody with with severely mentally ill you know, that
could be something like schizophrenia. For example, by polar disorder
and other related mental illness, which is different from just
being born with a maybe a violent, aggressive personality and
you just don't like anything or anybody, and you're always resistant,
(12:12):
You're always making a fuss, always a ruckus. It's not
the same as, you know, being schizophrenic. Obviously. Now the
stories are coming out as friends who knew the Reiner
family and they knew, you know, just countless people. New
(12:33):
York Post says that Nick Reiner threw terrifying tantrums as
a child, and then as he started using drugs, they escalated.
A lifelong friend told The Daily Mail that Nick Reiner
would get so violent he had to be physically held
(12:53):
back by his father. Many of the family fights, he said, quote,
had to do with Nick just doing something self destructive
and fighting back when they tried to help him. I
was over there. It must have been the early two thousands,
because he was about eleven and he was throwing the
biggest tantrum and Rob Rder just had him in a
bear hud trying to restrain him. The tantrum was over nothing,
(13:18):
but he had so much anger in his eyes. It
was just terrifying. And this happened a lot, and he
never outgrew it. He had tantrums in his twenties. Now
you'll imagine, you know, and you could always judge. You
can always judge when a child maybe comes out as
a bad seed. When you look a look at the siblings, right,
(13:41):
obviously the brother and sister are much more peaceful people.
But then Nick comes out and it's crazy land. And
it was always crazy land. And there's no way to
fix a personality disorder if you're born with it. And
because there's so much noise in your head and you
(14:04):
feel so much discomfort and aggression, you try to numb yourself.
You try to anesthetize yourself so you don't feel it,
so maybe you don't act as crazy. And then you
go down that road, and the personality disorder feeds the
drug addiction. The drug addition aggravates the personality disorder. And
(14:26):
the one thing that people never want to confront because
we have very much a free drug society. Leave people alone,
let them do what they want to do. This stuff
causes brain damage. There's increasing studies that I'm reading that
even smoking too much pot causes brain damage. Cocaine, you know,
(14:48):
the prescription drugs are a whole other matter. A lot
of those prescription drugs way over prescribed by doctors who
I assume are taking kickbacks the way they took kickbacks
when they were handing out opioids like candy back in
the nineties. And if you want to see how that
dirty business works, there was a series on Hulu a
(15:10):
few years ago. It was called Dope Sick, and it
showed you what the pharmaceutical industry was like, what the
medical industry was like, where doctors would be taken on
junkets for weekends in big cities or beautiful places, and
they could eat and drink all they want, and they
had a lot of pretty girls available and all they
(15:30):
had to do is keep prescribing the opioids. And I
always noticed I noticed this years ago, but Jerr, we
were sitting in a doctor's office when the pharmaceutical representative
showed up, and it was almost always a beautiful young woman.
(15:52):
I used to start cracking up when they walked in.
I mean, I mean seriously stunning, and she'd be dressed
profession only, but she'd be carrying a rolling suitcase with
her with samples, and then she and the doctor would
disappear for a while. It's like, how is it because
that's not a glamorous job, right, I mean, you expect
(16:13):
actresses and models to look like this. How is it
that that this is a glamorous jow job possibility for
for beautiful young women to roll a suitcase filled with
drug samples. But that was part of the marketing that
the pharmaceutical companies use to uh get doctors in a
(16:33):
good mood at least to look at the pretty girls.
It's it's it's really really a dirty, ugly, gross business.
And the furnace pharmaceutical companies intentionally want to addict people
to their to their prescription medicines, and that's why so
(16:55):
many people are on some you know, some form of
tranquilizers or some form of uppers or downers or anti
depressive medicine. They pushed that hard. You see the ads
on television. It's just another big racket and they make
billions and people are very susceptible. They think, well, you know,
the doctor prescribed and I'm not feeling good, and you know,
(17:17):
I don't know how to make myself feel better. It's
and then the story about eight years ago, Rob Reiner's
son destroyed his parents' house. People magazine as this the
guest house that he lived in frequently, and this is
(17:39):
from Nick's own testimony. There's a podcast called Dopey about
dealing with drug addiction twenty eighteen, and Nick said there
was a moment the year before, in twenty seventeen that
he was quote totally spun out on uppers and destroyed
his parents' guest house. And one of the hosts asked
(18:01):
him about his time sequestered in the guest house, and
Nick said, yeah, I wrecked it while on meth. I
went ten rounds with my guest house. It's not much
of a story. I got totally spun out on uppers.
I think it was coke and something else, and I
was up for days on end. I started punching different
things in the guest house. I started with the TV,
(18:22):
and then I went over to the lamp, and eventually
everything in the guest house got wrecked. He doesn't remember
if he heard himself. There wasn't any logic at all
that you can remember. He was just in a crazy state,
and his parents had told him he had to go
before that happened, so I guess they wanted him tossed
from the guest house, and that was his reaction, which
is the reaction of a two year old. Apparently he
(18:45):
didn't come out of the two year old tantrum phase.
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John Cobelt Show. All right, we had Brad Garrett on earlier.
(19:19):
One of the things we talked about, who's from ABC News,
is about this latest Bolton coming out of Massachusetts, actually
from Rhode Island. It looks like that that suspect in
the Brown University shooting and he killed two and wounded
nineteen others. It looks like he's not only a mass killer,
(19:41):
he may be a serial killer because they believe that
he is connected to the killing of an MI I
T professor, which happened Monday. Because Brown is in Providence,
Rhode Island, MIT is in the Boston area and in Brookline,
(20:03):
a Boston suburb, an unidentified killer entered the home of
a professor named Nuno Loerero. Larrero originally from Portugal. His
home is on Gibbstreet in Brookline. Professor was shot multiple
times and he was quite the figure in his field.
(20:28):
Lourero was selected last year to lead the Plasma Science
Infusion Center, working on advanced clean energy technology, and in
January of last year, no, maybe this year, Joe Biden
awarded Loerero and four hundred other scientists with the Presidential
Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineer Engineers. So it
(20:51):
was quite accomplished. There's no motive for any of this stuff.
But they the police are now saying that they have
id'd this suspect and they have a warrant out for
the arrest. I guess they have enough evidence between the
shootings and maybe more video and they've been able to
make the connection. But he's still on the loose, he's
(21:12):
still at large. Brown University is under a lot of
fire because they charge a lot of money for tuition.
I don't know exactly, but probably you know, eighty thousand
dollars range or more, and for that kind of money.
(21:32):
They have a nine billion dollar endowment, You think that
have security cameras everywhere, especially in the age of school shootings.
I mean, the school shooting craze has now been going
on for over twenty five years. Well, Brown University, they
had a press conference and the reporters are getting increasingly
aggressive with the with the administrators. And I play a
(21:55):
clip here and two things got me. First of all,
you'll hear him questioning the lack of security cameras in
the building where the shooting happened. But watch the way
the reporter almost apologizes for asking the question. And this
should be cut too. You could play cut number two, Sorr.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I asked this question on it a deep respects, but
I asked it for a lot of parents.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Who were frustrated, who reached out to me.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So please keep that in mind.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
And they want to know how at school with a
nine billion dollar endowment does not have cameras on one
of the older buildings at the edge of the camera,
the edge of the campus where this happened, not even
in the front door.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Who's coming and going now?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
They asked this question knowing that the shooter may have
done whatever You wanted, but the.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Cameras A would have deterred or B captured. I better
look at them, and we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Today five days out.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I want you to explain that.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Because there's a lot of parents who are wondering, where
are you investing your money?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, I appreciate that question, and I want to reiterate
as our president did, listen to our students and communicating
to the parents, to our community about our support is
of most importance. We have twelve hundred cameras located throughout
the campus. We don't publish the locations of the cameras.
That would give a map to somebody to evade detection
(23:16):
on the cameras, So that would be counterproductive to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Way, we stopped there, stop there. That was a nonsense answer.
Eating asked why didn't you publish where all the cameras are?
Question was why didn't you have cameras at the entrance,
even at the front door of this older building which
was part of a complex. That was the question. First
of all, he starts off with those boiler plate Oh, yes,
(23:39):
you know, it's the most importance to communicate to our community.
You know, It's like when they say the safety is
the first priority of our passengers. Yeah, while the plane
is as a burning wreck on the runway, safety is
always our first priority. Well not there, same thing here?
What's with your communication? He didn't answer the question. He
(24:01):
actually says that and then proceeds not to answer. And
then if you go back to the beginning of the
reporter's question, I asked this question as of deep respect.
I asked it for a lot of parents who are frustrated,
who reached out to me. Please keep that in mind.
What are you doing ask the freaking question? Just start.
All you have to do is say, instead of that preamb,
(24:22):
but instead of that prayer, just say, how does the
school with a nine billion dollar endowment not have cameras
on the older buildings, not even on the front door.
How's that happen? That's the question? Do you Why are
you afraid of offending one of these He is a
college administrator, he's not Jesus Christ. Oh, you know, out
(24:43):
a detrius respect. I want you to understand. Please keep
that in mind. Don't get offended, don't get angry with me. God,
these reporters are such whimps. They are soggy whimps. Probably
the rest of his not answer.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
That would give a map to somebody to evade detection
on the cameras, So that would be counterproductive to do that.
There are cameras in this building, and as I answered
the previous question, we have turned over all evidence that
we were holding it round to law enforcement and are
cooperating fully with them.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
So you're seeing that they were amazing with cameras in
the building. I was told yesterday there wasn't cameras in
the building. Attorney General said, old building, no cameras attached
to a new building with cameras.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I believe he said that there were two different phases
of the building that might have two different levels of technology,
and all video imagery has been turned over to law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. Well, finally,
the reporter snapped into duty there, it doesn't make sense. Yeah,
that doesn't make sense. Well, he gave a whole bunch
of nonsense answers, didn't he Yes, the Attorney General said
there were no cameras. Well, I think the Attorney General
said there were two levels of technology. It's like, yeah,
(25:55):
one building had lots of cameras and one building had
no cameras. Yeah, I guess you're right. That's two levels
of technology. And we're not going to tell people where
our cameras are. You had nothing to tell them. There
were no cameras, there was no video. Now this is
like day five. We've all seen the available video. There
is no recording of him walking into the building, or
(26:19):
coming down the hallway, or entering that classroom. Why didn't
you install it? Guarding that nine billion dollars in down
it pretty closely? Huh? How much would a few extra
cameras cost? Why are university officials just uniformly such double
talking weasels. It's always Kamala Harris time. When they speak,
(26:43):
it's always a big bowl word salad coming out of
their mouth. Why can't you just answer straight? First of all,
there's no excuse for not having the cameras. That's severely stupid. Anyway,
he went on now to shoot an MIT professor to death.
But they think they got a name. They're not releasing
(27:04):
the name yet.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
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We're gonna have Daniel guss on. Well, we have another
corrupt La City councilman who's been fined one hundred and
thirty eight thousand dollars. Another one, we'll tell you who
he is and what he did. That's coming up after
two o'clock with Daniel Guss and he's got his own
Substack news site that you should go see. Let me
(27:36):
let me tell you about the latest in the Minnesota
fraud case, because you may have heard about how various
Somili Americans stole a billion dollars from taxpayers with all
kinds of welfare fake claims on welfare programs is the
quickest way to describe it. It looks like it's actually
two billion dollars at least. News has talked with the
(28:01):
Minnesota state Senator Michael Kruhn and a former federal prosecutor
named Joe Tireb and it turns out the losses might
reach two billion dollars, and the state Senator, Michael Kruhn,
as a Republican, said the government was long aware of
the problem. Minnesota has an epidemic of fraud, as the
(28:23):
rest of the nation is learning. These again are examples
of the incredibly corrupt. Really, they're like financial cancers. The
nonprofit industry we've known here in Minnesota for quite some time,
we had a massive fraud problem and it's the epicenter
of fraud in the United States right now. Here's here's
one of the cases. A woman named Asha Farhan Hassan
(28:48):
created a a autism treatment program and defrauded the state.
The state. The state has a program so that residents
can used the money for their kids autism treatment, hasan
built Medicaid for fake therapy sessions used untrained staff, paid
(29:12):
parents three hundred dollars. She paid the parents three hundred
to fifteen hundred dollars a month to keep their kids
on the phony program. Then she kept her cut hundreds
of thousands of dollars and sent that money abroad to
buy real estate and Kenya. The entire budget of Minnesota's
(29:33):
autism program ballooned from three million in twenty eighteen, count
that one to two to three million, to four hundred
million five years later, four hundred million. And it was
so easy to carry out, according to the former prosecutor. Honestly,
how easy this fraud was to do. These fraudsters were
just saying they were spending all this money on feeding kids.
(29:56):
That was another scam of feeding kids program. And all
they were doing was making up PDFs putting fake names
onto exl sheets. He said, I could do that in
five minutes on a computer if I'd absolutely no conscience,
And anybody in government who raised any issues they were ignored, reassigned,
(30:19):
or sidelined. One of the suspects is Omar Fatah, involved
with Feeding Our Future, and he as well as a
city councilman in Minneapolis named Jamal Osman, they lobbied the
governor personally and said, hey, if you don't allow this,
that's racist. Because the Minnesota Department of Education briefly halted payments,
(30:44):
and a city councilor actually walked in and said, if
you don't restart those payments, we're gonna call you racist.
And Tim Waltz said, ah, don't do that. Here, here's
the money. You believe that that's extortion. We're gonna call
you racist if you don't spend two billion dollars in
tax money on all our schemes that actually happened. According
(31:06):
to this report, they personally lobbied Waltz by threatening him
with the word racism, and next thing you know, it's
two billion dollars out the door. God, and he was
so close to being vice president when we come back
Daniel Guss and he's the independent journalist here in Los Angeles,
(31:30):
and he's going to tell us about another LA City
Council member corrupt taking goodies connected to Las Vegas, and
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