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October 27, 2025 34 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (10/27) - There was a hiker who took video of Pacific Palisades on January 2nd and you could see the Lochman Fire still smoldering. More on the new LA Fire Chief Jamie Moore. Malibu is changing rapidly as permits are not being approved to re-build after the fires at an acceptable rate. Katie Porter's ex-husband is speaking out. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on from one
until four o'clock every day. Moistline for Friday, we're gonna
have him Moistline this week eight seven seven Moist Steady
six eight seven seven mois staighty six or usually talkback
feature on the iHeartRadio app. It's been an exciting afternoon

(00:20):
so far. We got to see on live television a
guy driving his motorcycle at about eighty miles an hour
into the back of another automobile while he was fleeing
the police because they say he shot a deputy. And
he went to flying into the air, bounced a couple
of time as his motorcycle fell on it, and somehow,

(00:40):
you know, I want to believe in a god, but
how did this guy survive?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's luck?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And then and then the paramedics show up and strap
him into a gurney to take him to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, what are they supposed to do? Just let him die? Yes,
I mean, I know that's what you would do, but
they'd get.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Out a job, all right, when I have my country. Yeah,
if you just shot a deputy and you end up
bouncing down the freeway. Yeah, bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
But you know we have to stick in that that
word allegedly. Allegedly, Okay, I mean I have to as
a news person. I guess you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, I don't have to, but you live under different
rules I do, all right? Coming up after two o'clock,
brand of Roger Bailey on He's three o'clock. Coming up
after three o'clock. Roger Bailey is the attorney who's representing
like thousands of people in the Palisades over the Palisades fire.

(01:42):
And as you know, the on the New Year's Day morning,
there was something called the Lockman fire that the fire
department thought they put out, and it turns out to
believe all this, they didn't. It was still smoldering, and
then the very strong winds kicked it up again. And

(02:09):
oh that reminds me. We got sant Ana wins coming tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes we do. And the heat is on, we have
the heat advisory, and it's windy.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And the winds are going to be pretty strong. Yes,
all right. So is the reservoir filled?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't think so. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
How about all the other reservoirs are the hydrants fixed.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think the hydrants are fixed.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Should the new fire chief come out and say the
reservoirs filled, the hydrants are fixed. We hired new firefighters,
we fixed the broken fire trucks. I'm not hearing that.
Jennie's Cononas could do it too. She's still on the job.
Gene Canonias could hold the hose and fill the reservoir.
In fact, in my country, not only would I not

(02:57):
rescue that guy who shot at the deputy and his
bouncing on the freeway, Jeniez Kumilias would be sentenced to
standing over the reservoir, holding the hose until all one
hundred and seventeen million gallons.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I thought you were going to say something very different.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
No, I'm not mean okay, all right, ok No, that
would be your sense. Now. She couldn't sleep, she couldn't
sit down, She'd have to stand there holding the hose.
Life would be very different if I ran this place. Yes,
all right, so let me We're going to have Roger
Bailey on next hour. But I wanted to give you

(03:33):
a rundown of why he's coming on, because this is fascinating.
The LA Fire Department kept insisting that the fire was out,
that they had checked it, the fire was out, and
they were at first mystified that it blew up on

(03:53):
January seventh, and then kept claiming it's like, well, there's
nothing anybody could have done. It was just such an
unusual situation that turned had to be complete bull crap,
just complete bs on the part of all the public
figures who said that, yes, they could have put it out.
In fact, they should have had a fire crew there

(04:15):
as soon as soon as it seemed to be out
on January first. That crew should have been standing there
right through the windstorm, because we had about a week's
worth predictions. But no, they left. And on January second,
there was a hiker and he was taking video and

(04:36):
he was walking across, according to the La Times, the
scorched landscape of ash and you could hear his footsteps
crunching on the charred earth. He looks over a ridge,
at a burned scar with blackened stumps, and he zooms

(04:56):
the camera to wisps of white smoke rising from the dirt.
This is January second, the next day, and he says,
while he's recording, it's still smoldering. He whispers it there
are no firefighters or park rangers visible were shot by

(05:18):
a local resident above the trailhead Skull Rock trailhead eleven
thirty am January second, thirty six hours after the Lockman fire,
the original fire ignited, and long after the LA Fire
Department announced that the fire was fully contained. And this
is a really important piece to the puzzle because everybody

(05:41):
is angry and they want to know, well, after the
LA Fire Department declared it out, how did it rekindle
into the Palisades firestorm Because the next day it was

(06:01):
in the morning of the next day and wisps of
smoke was coming from the smoldering debris. Also, here's another angle,
and we'll get into this in detail with Roger Bailey,
the attorney. They say the state, remember Newsom has been
sloughing off all the responsibility on the City of La

(06:27):
But the state owns to Panga State Park and that's
where the Palisades fire began. It in the wilds up
there above the town of Palisades, Pacific Palisades. You can't
tell exactly whether you're standing on state land or county

(06:48):
land or city land. There's all kinds of different jurisdictions there,
different parks, different conservation agencies all along the Santa Monica Mountains.
It's a maze of bureau organizations. And you know, even
if you had a map, you could really tell where
you're standing. Well, after all the time of analyzing what happened,

(07:11):
they say this started on state land and they didn't
make sure that the area was secure. They didn't make
sure that the fire was at either. Remember Newsom was
claiming that he pre positioned all these fire assets, fire
trucks and CalFire personnel. Another total lie for a guy

(07:33):
who claimed on national television yesterday that he just he
can't lie. He said, I can't do that when it
comes to lying. But he lied about that. But you know,
he is so cute.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's a very nice smile.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And let me tell you, a guy who may have
an IQ as low as ninety three, of course he's
not going to be able to figure out where the
fire started, where the jurisdiction lines are, what you're supposed
to do.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, you're saying he's not able to meet the moment.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
When you're when your IQ could be as low as
ninety three, you are not intellectually capable of meeting the moment.
It's just not going to happen. So we'll have Roger
Bailey on next hour of the Attorney because this is
an amazing find from this hiker and it just came out.

(08:22):
I think this came out in the in the news.
Was it Saturday morning? No, it's today?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What is day twenty seventy Monday?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, just came out yesterday. So we will we will
get deeply into it now when we come back. We
talked about this briefly on Friday. Karen Bass, boy, I'd
like to IQ test on her, Huh, I say she's
sub Newsome.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Has she told us what she got on her SAT?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
No? No? And you know what, that should be part
of the mandatory you know, in fact, IQ and SAT
scores should be mandatory records released when you run for
a major off you'll see and don't let anybody tell
you those numbers don't matter. In my experience, people I
know with high IQ stores and high SAT scores are smart,

(09:12):
obviously smart and successful. And the ninety three dollars like Newsom,
you can tell right away, not much going on in there.
We will talk about Karen bass naming a new fire
chief and when is he going to explain whether the
reservoirs filled or not he anymore? Or is it Jamie Moore,

(09:38):
did we ever settle on that? No? What is your
news department saying?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
We said it could be either way? So maybe we
need to get him on the show and ask him.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, well, yes, I have a lot of questions to
ask him because I'm just seeing in this story about
his selection there's a lot of the words equity and
pop up diversity. Apparently that was specialty in the fire department,
and that is not a good sign.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
We just told you that over the weekend, found out
there was video on made by a hiker on January
second showing that the remains of the fire from January
first was still smoldering. There was still wisps of white
smoke rising from the dirt. So the LA Fire Department

(10:31):
had said the thing was put out and they left
the scene, never to return until the fire reignited. Apparently
still hard to believe. And they're also trying to figure
out they think it was on that smoldering was on
state land, and they think the fire started on one

(10:57):
hundred and sixty acre sliver of land owned by the
Mountain Mountains Recreation and Conservation Authority, it's another government agency.
Before spreading to Tapanga State Park, the rekindle happened on
state park land, says Trey Robertson, another attorney, and that

(11:20):
California State Parks did not sufficiently monitor the smoldering earth.
So it looks like we were failed by the LA
Fire Department in Kristin Crowley and we were failed by
the California State Parks Department. Now here's a reminder. The
National Weather Service warned repeatedly for days before January seventh

(11:44):
of critical fire conditions and a life threatening, dangerous woodenstorm,
and nobody in the LA Fire Department or in the
State Parks Department nobody paid attention to that. That's a
huge question here. So if I ever get to talk

(12:04):
to Jamie Moore, who's a deputy chief now Bass's new chief,
I'm gonna ask him what do you guys do all
day when the National Service puts out critical fire warnings?
You had a fire in a dangerous spot, you declare
it over, everybody leaves, nobody checks, you know, the Twitter account.

(12:28):
Don't you get bulletins directly from the National Weather Service.
What do you guys do all day? How come with
the thousands of personnel, thousands of personnel in the Fire
Department at City Hall under Karen Bass, and the State
Parks Department and this conservation agency which is government, nobody said, hey,

(12:52):
look at this. This is like a red warning. This
is the scariest thing I've ever seen. I remember all
all the posts online were in red, although eventually they
were in purple. Found out that purple is worse than red.
So back to Jamie Fasing. I lost my place here,

(13:15):
Jamie Moore, so I'm reading here. Bass calls him the
professor because he's taught in the past, and he will
reform the fire department and prepared for emergencies and upcoming
major events. You mean, like reading the Twitter feed from
the National Weather Service. That's a good reformation right there.
Having the crew stay behind and monitor a fire to

(13:38):
see if it's still smoldering when you think one hundred
mile an hour winds are coming. Reform. I can't believe
the incompetence in the management structure of the fire department.
I am. I'm astonished by this, aren't you. Chief? More
is a proven and admired firefighter. What was he doing

(14:00):
that day? Did he see the warnings? Wasn't he worried
that the fire might kick up again? Did he know
about that fire? Did he know about the reservoir? Who's
going to explain why nobody in the fire department knew
there was an empty reservoir. Who's going to explain why
nobody in the fire department didn't know about the thousand
hydrants that were broken? Seriously, it's a thousand, Go look

(14:22):
it up. But the La Times very approvingly points out
that more created the LA Fire Department's Equity and Human
Resources Bureau. How does that help? How does equity in
human resources? How does that help? I'm looking for somebody

(14:43):
who's going to be monitoring social media, monitoring any of
the feeds from the National Weather Service. I'm love that.
I really don't care what color he is. You know,
he could be a green gay dwarf as long as
he can read the screen and then set off the alarm.

(15:05):
The Equity and Human Resources said he is dedicated to
improving diversity, equity and inclusion at the fire depart Well,
this is what we had our whole management line up,
between baths and Kenas and Kristin Crowley that was the
gold standard for diversity in equity? Could you how could

(15:25):
you get more diverse than that? And so what did
it matter? Because Bass left the country? Apparently Kristin Crowley
was incapable of reading a weather forecast and Kenonas was
incapable of filling a hole in the ground with water.

(15:48):
You know, they say when an airplane goes down, there's
so many redundancies built into the system that you have
to have many, many things go wrong at the same time,
which is why planes almost ever go down. Obviously, there
were so many things that went wrong here. But it
wasn't like a lightning strike. What this was was massive

(16:10):
incompetence that had gone on for years and had finally
caught up to this government, the LA Fire Department. And
is he gonna say that they can actually put out
fires when they're only half funded, half staffed, they're only
fifty percent funded. What's he gonna say about that? Or
is he not gonna say anything more? Coming up, you're listening.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
To John Cobel's on demand from kf I AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
You can do the moistline eight seven seven Moist eighty
six eight seven seven moist eighty six, eight seven seven
sixty six four seven eight eight six, or the talkback
feature on the iHeartRadio app. We're gonna do it on Friday,
and again we're gonna have Roger Bailey on the the
attorney who's representing thousands of Palisades homeowners who got burned out,

(17:00):
and he's going to talk in detail about that new
video that a hiker shot January second, the day after
the original fire was now here's a good place to
use the word allegedly Deborah after it was allegedly put
out on the first good point, turns out it wasn't obviously,
So Roger Bailey coming up. Now, you know, I know

(17:27):
there's a lot of people are not going to be
shedding tears for the wealthy of Malibu, but Malibou is
changing rapidly. You know, Malibu has a slow growth philosophy.
You know, they did not they didn't want what wall
to walk condos have ever been down in South Florida

(17:49):
can't see the Atlantic Ocean to drive through a book
or a tone or similar cities on the Atlantic side
of Florida. The ocean is completely blocked out by one
gigantic condo after another after another, and even in Malibu,
I thought it was kind of kind of sad that
you can see the ocean for a lot of the

(18:09):
stretch because people had their big homes blocking the view,
so they tried to rope in development, and so they
have so many restrictions that people are finding it very
difficult to rebuild their home. Not to mention the insurance issues,
but there are outsiders, foreigners. Foreigners hold on remnom of

(18:42):
international buyers, and developers are snapping up properties like crazy
because the local residents can't deal with the regulations. Because
the relations have led to very costly renovation estimates. Two
brothers from New Zealand get this, bought six twenty five
million dollars worth of burned out lots on the beach

(19:02):
this year sixty five million dollars and wealthy people from Europe, Canada, Asia,
and the rebuilds are so costly that even the Malibu
people can't afford them. So God knows what we're going
to get here. Longtime residents are going to be replaced

(19:28):
by development groups, foreign buyers, airbnbs because they got plenty
of time and staff to deal with the impossible regulations
of one hundred. Now there's seven hundred and twenty Malibu homes.
They've burned. One hundred and sixty lots are on the market.

(19:51):
Forty seven got a price cut. And I've read that
there's only been four. Yes here it is Malibous only
issued four permits two percent of the applications received. How
frustrating is that after nine months, See they have it

(20:19):
used to be used to be years ago, you could
build anywhere. I think we've all driven around California and going,
why the hell did they build on that cliff or
on the beach like that? You know what? You know
I noticed driving on pch Now those homes really were
on just a little tiny slip of land. Most of
the home extended over the airspace of the beach in

(20:42):
the ocean. In fact, a lot of cases there wasn't
much beach, you know, at high tide, the ocean rolled
in under the house. These homes were built on stilts.
So the Malibous issued four permits because since the good

(21:03):
old days where people would build anything anywhere, now they
have so many complicated regulations that nobody can rebuild their
house in the same way without having a very expensive bill.
And so the rebuilding timelines are longer. FEMA has flood

(21:25):
elevation standards, so many ocean front homes have to sit
higher above the sand. There's new septic standards. Oh yeah,
they don't have a sewer system in Malibu, which I
didn't know. Septic tanks.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
We have some of those in our neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
You have septic tanks, yes, I.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Don't, but in our neighborhood there are homes that do
just right around the corner from us, right.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, you guys are living in the mid nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I was shocked to find that out.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
They are disgusting. You ever walk past a grate of
over we had. I remember I was a really little kid.
We didn't get a SERI system in my town in
Jersey till I was five years old, and I have
this vague memory of walking into the backyard and there
was a little cement slab, but it was a great

(22:15):
that covered the septic tank, and I didn't know what
it was as a kid, and I just walked over there.
That was the worst smell up to that point. I'm
only five, but that was the worst smell I'd ever
smelled in my life. I was disgusting. I was. I
was afraid to go to that corner of the house.
And I also remember them tearing up the street in

(22:35):
front of my house to lay down the sewer pipes,
which I found fascinating. I just sit by the front
window of the living room and I just watched them
lay down the swer pipes every day. That was all
the entertainment I used.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
To get to say, you are easily entertained.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, well, this is why I ended up in a
room talking to myself, pretending, pretending I was on the radio.
Because it was either I created an imaginary life in
my bedroom or I go stand at the living room
window and watch them lay septic tanks or lay short pipes.
I could go to the septic tank smell it, or
I could watch the short pipes.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Decision.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, so they have to replace existing septic systems with
wastewater treatment systems, which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Oh my god, you know, I'd probably just sell I don't.
I wouldn't have any patience for all this, And a
lot of people are a lot of people are just

(23:33):
getting out. They're getting out of the palisades as well.
Because bassled new some wide. They all lied. Nothing's been
done to speed up the process. I've heard nothing good
and it looks like a disaster. You know what This

(23:54):
is revealed and it's as if you didn't know. It's
just a massive failure of government on every level. And
it was. It's been a failure for a long time.
This exposed it to the whole world. But these are
bad employees in badly run departments who do bad jobs.

(24:14):
I can't put it any other way. What else could
you say? We have a very bad government and it
must they must all have a subnewsom IQs because what
we only have half the fire resources LA needs half
and they spend most of their time putting out bumfires

(24:36):
whatever the crazy homeless people start, I spend most of
their day. They put out thousands of bum fires every
year all over the city. But when the big one happened,
nobody showed up. There's only one word for that, stupid.

(24:57):
I don't I don't think. I don't think people realize.
You should realize how bad it is. You think that,
but then you know Gavin Newson's gonna run for president.
He and his ninety three IQ got elected three times
as governor byther. You know she doesn't talk about fire
anymore after you made all those promises.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, John, if he's thinking about running for president, how
can he talk about the fires in southern California?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
How could you talk about anything?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
You talk about the homeless, can't talk about gas?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
What's just trying to say? What is he going to
talk about? What is he going to talk about? I
could give you twelve horrible things that have happened under
his watch. What's he going to say? I mean, there
are other good Democratic governors out there, and and good
Republican governors. There's probably twenty five people, men and women

(25:47):
from both parties who are far superior than Newsome. You
could get a good governor from every of every political
flavor out there. Why him? All right? We come back? Oh,
when we come back, Missus potato Head's ex husband speaks out,

(26:09):
Katie Porter, who up until recently was the leading candidate
to be the next governor. We'd go from old slickhead
here to missus potato head. Tell you about that when
we come back.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
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Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can follow us on social media at John Cobelt
Radio at John Cobelt Radio, trying to get to thirty
five thousand followers all right. Up until a few days ago,
Katie Porter was the number one candidate for governor for
next year's election. She is a Democrat and former congresswoman

(26:57):
who ran for Senate. What came in behind Adam Schiff
and Steve Garvey. Nobody liked her. I don't know what
people in Orange County were thinking. She is loud, irritating, abrasive,

(27:17):
and I bet you she's in the sub newsom range
on the IQ scale. Her ex husband now we call
her missus potato Head. And if you don't know why,
because I was talking to some listeners, you know, when
we were on the cruise, and there's certain phrases that

(27:39):
they hear all the time, but they don't know why
we use them. I always have to remember, you know,
you get new listeners, new listeners, and people can only
listen to maybe twenty minutes half hour every day. So
she is missus potato Head for good reason. Because she
got divorced a few years ago from Matthew Hoffman, and
Hoffman claimed in divorce papers that Katie exploded over the

(28:06):
way he was making the mashed potatoes, saying, can't you
read the effing instructions before raising a ceramic bowl of
steaming hot potatoes and dumping it on my head, burning
my scalp.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That's aggressive.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, that's uh. That's not a good wife, you think that, Yeah,
I'm uh would she? I mean a bull of mashed
potatoes on your husband's.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
In front of the kids.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
A mud And as soon as I read that some
years ago, I thought, how why would anybody vote for
this woman? She is has as a maniac, is an abuser. Well,
you know, we saw the video clips recently of that
interview up in Sacramento and CBS, and also she has

(29:00):
a temper. Yeah, the clip of her yelling at her
staff member for getting in her zoom shot. Well, Matthew
Hoffman spoke out to The New York Post and uh,
he said, it's about time that these videos came out.
The amount of staff she goes through, the horrible things
that she says about others, those aren't fabrications. Yeah, she

(29:20):
goes through a lot of staff members because she screams
at them all day, she said. He said that people
are starting to see who his ex wife really is,
and it's people like her, making it hard to like politics.
I got to ask him, what were you thinking the
first morning you woke up in bed next to her?
What was going through your mind?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Maybe she just wasn't always like that, John, I have change.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
He points out. She didn't get along with anybody, and
she said he because because Katie would say the system
was rigged and her her elections were rigged when she
lost to Shift and Garvey, and Hoffman says, the system's
not rigged, but his ex wife is by no means dumb.

(30:11):
But she's a master manipulator because she came in third.
You come in third place and you're dozens of points
behind the winner, you can't say the election was rigged.
Now she's got he's got, she's got a campaign spokesperson
named Peter Aptez. Wait, no, Peter Opetez opitts, what kind

(30:34):
of a name is this? Opid z? Peter Opitts, Katie,
your next husband divorced more than a decade ago and
have a positive and productive relationship as they continue to
co parent their three children. Hoffman said their divorce was awful.
Uh She filed for divorce first and got an emergency

(30:57):
protective order and a restraining order against Hoffman, and then
police arrested Hoffmann after a fight in which he broke
a light switch in their home. Then he got a
he requested a restraining order too. I mean, Porter would
routinely call him an efing idiot and an effing incompetent
and shattered a glass coffee pot in their kitchen counter

(31:20):
when she thought the house wasn't clean enough. She would
not let me have a cell phone because she said,
you're too effing dumb to operate it. Well, what I've
never heard of this, So you're you're, you're, you're insane.
Wife says you can't have a cell phone, So you
don't have a cell phone. So she's dumping mashed potatoes

(31:40):
on his head, she's smashing a coffee pot, he's breaking
a light switch. They both have restraining orders against each other.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Sounds a little toxic.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Uh yeah, imagine what it was like being a little
kid in the house. It is sad. Uh. He doesn't
see them much except on FaceTime because he's uh he says,
he's moved on with his life.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He's moved on from his kids.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well he only sees them on FaceTime.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, that's really sad.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
But they're in southern California and he's in Oregon. Oh yeah,
he's found a new life, he's found a new new person. Uh.
But she gets she gets elected governor. I can't believe
all the bad choices. And Kamala Harris says she might

(32:39):
run for president again. There are so many bad politicians
coming from California. Right now, you see Newsom and Kamala
Harris on the stage.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I think it'll be uh, Kamala Harris will be at
the top of the ticket and Newsom will be VP.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Oh could you mentioned that? Why don't we have anybody
intelligent in this state? And why do who's the person?
And I know somebody's out there. You voted for Gavin Newsom,
Kamala Harris, and Katie Porter at some time in your life,
maybe all three of them at the same time. Right,
they all were in office at the same time. So
there are perhaps millions of people who trudged over to

(33:17):
the voting booth. Saw Newsom said, yeah, saw Kamala Harris, Yeah, yeah,
saw Katie Porter. Ah three for three on that one. Yeah,
it's been a good day. What's wrong with you? You
ought to have your voting rights revoked? You ought to
have your citizenship revoked, and Trump should said ice to
their house and the National Guard and had those people

(33:38):
removed from the state. All right, we come back Roger Bailey,
he's the attorney representing thousands of Pacific Palisades residents. The
big story on that front is that a hiker took
video of the smoldering New Year's Day fire on January second.

(33:58):
It was still smoldering, there was still coming out of
the ground, and the LA Fire Department had declared the
fire over and they everybody went home.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Did that guy call the fire department and say, hey,
better get back here.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's a good question. I don't know. It hasn't said
in any of the reports. We'll ask Roger Bailey then,
But the video apparently is real and now they think
it may have started on state Land. Deborah Mark has
the news lied in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You

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