August 25, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (08/25) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Art Arthur comes on the show to talk about the latest regarding Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Lou makes the case for Uganda. Illegal immigrants need to come to grips with the fact that they are committing an illegal act. Menendez Brothers remain in prison.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't f I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, this back
and forth with this individual, Kilmar Abrego Garcia continues. They
say he was deported to El Salvador in violation of
a judge's order, then brought back to the United States
back in June at the Supreme Court order the Trump
administration to facilitate the return. He was detained on human
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smuggling charges, which he denies. Now this goes back to
a stop in Tennessee in twenty twenty two, which is
on film, this video of it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Uh, and he's in there.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He got eight other guys in the vehicle, nobody speaks English,
everyone's got cash, nobody knows what's going on. Clearly human smuggling.
I mean, what else do you think it was a
slumber party? And they're saying, no, he's got a he's
denying that. And so he's now in custody and apparently
on his way to Uganda at the detention facility there.
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Art Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy
at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All right, thanks for coming on with us. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Every single minute there's a change, some judges trying to
stop this and judges trying to stop that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Where are we give us an update where we're at
with this fellow.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So just a real quick recap. Lou A Breako Garcia
came in around twenty and twelve. He was picked up
in a parking lot in Maryland in twenty and nineteen.
I took him into custody because he was with a
bunch of MS thirteen members of verified source said he
was a member of MS thirteen two. One immigration judge
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denied him bond. Another immigration judge found that because of
threats against his mother's Papoosa business back home at El Salvador,
he'd be persecuted. Fast forward, so he granted him withholding
of removal. He ordered him removed, but the government couldn't
remove him to El Salvador. Fast forward to twenty twenty five.
He gets taken into custody. In March, he gets sent
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to El Salvador. El Salvador places him in a sea
coot terrorist prison. His family goes to court in Maryland.
Judge Paula's Innis asks for him to be returned she
issues in order that requires the federal government to effectuate
and facilitate his return to the United States. Supreme Court says, no,
you can't force the US government to engage in diplomacy,
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but you know you can tell him to facilitate his return. Finally,
he's returned. In June. He sent to Tennessee to face
the charges that you mentioned. Under federal bond law, the
presumption is that criminal detainees won't be detained pending trial.
So that judge released and be held on to him
for a while because he didn't want to get released
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because he was afraid Iceer was going to take him
into custody. So Judge Inn, it's back to her in Maryland.
She says, you can't take him right into custody. If
he does get released, you gotta let him come back
to Maryland. Apparently he traveled with security paid for by
his lawyers to bring him back to Maryland. That's quite
a trip, let me tell you. And so this morning
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he was taken into custody when he showed up for
an appointment in Maryland. Ice in Maryland said that they
were going to send him to Uganda. Apparently, and the
judge his attorneys ran to Judge Zennis again in Maryland
and said, you got to stop this, and so she
has put a hold on the removal of him to
you Ganda until she has an opportunity to hear arguments
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from the parties.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Man, when I think about, all I can think about
during that update was the amount of legal time, the
amount of legal work, the amount of like court clerks
and sonographers and police departments and judges and judges time
to sort this guy out, who is certainly bad news.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Is unbelievable. Why again, can't he just go home? What's
the argument? What's the thing with his mother? She that
what they're not? Their sideways with the with the black
hand there in El Salvador. What's the problem.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, you know, that's funny thing, Lou is that his
claim is based upon an assertion that he would be
harmed by a gang called Barrio eighteen in El Salvador. Now,
of course, the government's argument is that he's an MS
thirteen member, And if you know anything at all about
gang violence in El Salvador, Barrio eighteen and MS thirteen
didn't get along for years. They fought with one another.
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But he didn't say that Barrio eighteen won them because
he was an MS thirteen member, and remember MS thirteen
starts you off pretty young. In El Salvador. What he
said was that his mother ran a papoosa business. They're
a pastry, quite tasty if you ever have one. And
it was so successful that Barrio eighteen came by looking
for extortion. Basically, they wanted protection money so that they didn't,
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you know, either kidnapped him or raped his sisters. And
so for some reason, the second immigration judge that I
talked about found that this constituted an asylum claim. I
was an immigration judge for eight years. This is simple extortion.
If this guy has a persecution claim, then Charles Lindbergh
had a persecution claim when his kid was kidnapped by
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Bruno Hofftman. But you know, it's everything about this case
has been sideways from Jump Street. You know, the second
immigration judges order the deportation of this guy Del Salvador.
The you know, Judge zenn is getting very involved in
this thing. Since there's such a degree that the Streme
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Court had to step in. I mean, there's just so
much wrong with this case that you know, if we
could have stepped it at any point in this we
could have undone it. But here's really the question loud
that nobody's asking. When he got sent to L. Salvador
in error. The salvador and government didn't do what it
does with every other person. We deport El Salvador, stamp
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your passport, welcome you back into the country. Tell you
of the nice day they put him into Seacott.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right, everybody o country was afraid of him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They didn't want him walking around out there.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, that's the one thing. You know, I've talked about
Bragio Garcia one hundred times to various media outlets, but
that is the one thing that no media outlet really
touches on. There's no reason, I mean that the Trump
administration wouldn't say, hey, here's one of your nationals back
put him in jail, any more than Britain would say,
you know, hey, here's Leu and Art. We're gonna send
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them back to you when we want you to put
them in jail. We're never going to do that. So
it appears that L. Salvador wanted this guy in jail,
not the Trump administration. But that's the one point of
the story that nobody really seems to be hammering down
on So.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What what do we do?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like, what is our obligation as a state department, as
a justice department, as a homeland security agency, like, what
is our obligation to this foreign national?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Where do we where do.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
We leave him? Well, because of the protection that he got,
which is called statutory withholding, it's not asylum and he
has been ordered removed, we can send him to any
country on the face of the earth other than El Salvador.
But because he got deported to El Salvador and then
brought back, I don't want to get into how complicated
it is, but we basically need to reinstate that original
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removal order, which means that he can ask to talk
to an asylum office, or the asylum officer is going
to say, we're going to send you to Uganda. He's
going to claim that he fears persecution in Uganda. By
the way, part of his claim is he doesn't speak
the language. Well, he doesn't speak English either, and he's
been living here in the national language of Uganda is English.
But so yeah, I mean it'll probably be a pretty
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quick turnaround. In less of course, the asylum officer believes
that he really does have a claim, then an immigration
judge is going to hear his case again. But that
should all happen pretty quickly. Now keep in mind also
that Costa Rica has apparently said they'll take this guy,
and he wants to go to Costa Rica. So one
thing that you may see is that, you know, the
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Trump administration simply says, fine, we'll send you to Costa Rica.
But remember the part that I talked about before you
and I just mentioned lou that El Salvador put him
into its prison. Now if he goes to Costa Rica,
El Salvador may seek to extradite him from Costa Rica.
Now they are very good relations back to El Salvador.
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So quite frankly, you know this story might play out
for the next year, year and a half, two years.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Art Arthur with the Center for Immigration Studies, thanks so
much for bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's it's one of those stories just doesn't ever seem
to go away.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And it's a top story out of DC today and
the Uganda turn is my favorite one. We'll see if
he takes the Costa Rica deal or goes to Uganda,
the pearl of the African continent.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Louke Penrose on news radio.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And for John Cobalt today on KFI A six forty
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, talking about
the back and forth and back and forth with Kilmar
Abrego Garcia. The President wants to send him to Uganda.
Uganda has a really an agreement with the United States
to accept third country nationals that are not being granted
asylum in the United States. Garcia not eligible for asylum.
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Everybody always knew that, but it is interesting now that
he is at He claims he's at risk and has
been able to convince a federal judge that he is
at risk at home. So the only thing he can
do is go to Costa Rica, but then may get
extradited by the El Salvado government.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Look, you know, this is.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Actually is not all that interesting to me. It's kind
of an interesting story how we got here.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Much better if illegals stop lying. But I understand illegals lie.
They constantly lie, and that's how we get wrapped up
in all this.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Because we're a nation of law.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And order, and law and order requires truth, So we
apply what is available to a foreign national based on
what they say, and then when they lie.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It gets all fouled up. And this is a troublesome fellow.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He was identified by a valid source that he was
a member of MS thirteen. Strike one, he was found
with rolls of cash and drugs and other MS thirteen
game members.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Strike two.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
He was stopped in Tennessee by the highway patrol with
eight other illegals in the car and the car wasn't
registered to him. Strike three, he was They caught him solicit.
Court filings have him soliciting nude photographs of a mind.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Strike four.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
His wife petitioned for an order of protection, a tr
temporary strainting order because he punched her and scratched her
and ripped her shirt and bruised her.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Strike five. I mean, why do I need these people
in my country?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And now because his mother's pastry shop is so good
and she won't pay protection money to the local gang there,
he can't go back like this.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I guess this is a problem for him. It's a
problem for him, it's a problem for his wife.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know what idiot marries in illegal. This is
on her that his family is got problems.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That is a shame.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like, the only thing stupider than marrying an illegal is
having a child with an illegal, which apparently she has done.
And then I'm supposed to feel bad because they're hugging,
like I was watching TV this morning and the like
they got camera shots of the family hugging goodbye as
he is taken away by the ice folks.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And I'm thinking, why are you crying? Like where do
the tears factor in? You married an illegal, a gang member.
He must have told you the story of his mother's
pastry shop.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And as I said, the only thing stupider than marrying
in illegal is having a child with an illegal.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And now you're crying.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Like these are problems for this weirdo family, but they
are in fact their problems.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They're not our problems.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Stop making your absurd life choices become my country's problems.
And do not even try and make me feel bad.
Don't feel bad for these people. Don't let them make
you feel bad. These are foolish, foolish people, and they're
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playing internationals and they're paying international prices, and you know,
we just heard the art Arthur gave us the recap
of how much my court system has been involved in
this guy's life, and all I can think about is
how many clerks, how much overtime, how many judges, how
many you know, public defenders, how many people?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
How much tax payer dollars have been.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Spent sorting out this guy's dishonest, stupid life, and it's
still happening. People like, oh, Loup, but don't you feel
bad for the children. Yeah, I feel bad for the children.
They are foreign children, They're not I don't know. I mean,
I don't know if this with this woman's situation is.
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I don't know if she's gonna go follow him to Uganda.
She should probably get a small apartment outside the detention
facility in Uganda and then she can go visit him
or contact the mother and El Salvador. Maybe she should
move there. I don't know what she should do. What
idiot marries and illegal So she's got, you know all.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, her passport is.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Up to date, because I suspect she's gonna be doing
a lot of traveling. But again, these are their problems.
There was a story about an uber driver guy lived
in Paramount and my home radio station is in San Diego,
and we were doing the story because it involved an
issue in San Diego. Guy was an Uber driver got
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missed the exit very close to the border in San
Diego and wound up in Mexico. But the person was
a DACA person. So he was brought into my country
illegally by his illegal alien parents from Guatemala at the
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age of ten. He's now thirty one, so he's a
grown ass man. And again he's married and has children.
So another idiot marries an illegal, and another idiot has
children with illegal and now he is in fact illegal
and a grown ass man driving from Uber. But as
a result of President Obama is under the Deferred Action
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for Childhood Arrivals program.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, I get it. That's fair, right. Shouldn't be mad
at the child. They had nothing to do with the
fact that their.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Illegal alien parents dragged them into the country illegally when
he was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
What's he gonna do? But but you know, TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Day has become weeks, weeks become months, and now he's
a grown man. Still at illegal. DACA doesn't absolve you
from being an illegal. You're still illegally in the country.
You were just a childhood arrival. So we defer action.
That's what DACA stands for. So the federal government defers action,
any action against you, until we can figure out what
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to do, because there's no real good answer what to
do with a child who is now thirty one, just
as illegal as they were when they were ten.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But now are grown up.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, among the things you can't do as a a
DACA person is leave. You know why, because once you
cross the border into Mexico, how do you get back
into the United States to drive home to your house
in Paramount.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You can't because you're not Mexican, you're not American, you're Guatemalan.
And it's a long drive.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And so there he is in Mexico, stuck, and everybody
was crying about it, and they were on TV and
the parents are crying, and the wife is crying, and
the children are crying, and he's stuck in Mexico because
he can't come back into the United States. He's being
detained in Mexico because he's not Mexican, he's not American,
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didn't have his Guatemalan passport on him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Shocker.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And you know the story is narrated in such a
way that I'm supposed to feel bad, and I won't
feel bad. That is that's a real problem. I have
to admit. That's a good one. That's complicated and complex.
You got he's he's the breadwinner. I mean, he was
a he was able to knock up a local here
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in Los Angeles and have four children.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So she's a real butte when it comes to picking soulmates.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But nevertheless, they those four children are certainly American and
ultimately will become our responsibility to raise because they're young. Well,
actually the three children, and she's, you know, in a
family way. With the fourth, she's American. He's an uber driver,
he's in Mexico, and it's and and the parents. Over
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the years, their parents, his parents somehow were able to
go back to Guatemala a number of times and get
their their legal residents now. So he's the only one.
And I thought, that's a that's a decent story. I
gotta I gotta be honest, I don't know how to
solve that one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I remain.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Still in my resolve that this is in fact their problem,
their family.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Problem, not my problem, not my country's problem. And I suspect.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
If you're a DOCA person and you drive Ruber, don't
take any fares that take you near the border. That's
the only lesson that I learned out of this one.
All right, when we come back, we got another one. Uh,
let's see here, Oh, the Sherman Oaks folks. We got
to talk about the Sherman Oaks folks. There was a
raid at the home depot in Sherman Oaks and a
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bunch of Americans got involved and got in the way
and one got detained.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And that's always fun. So we'll do that next.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Lou Penrose in for John coblt this week.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Good to have you along with US President Trump today
making some news with respect to his executive order over
the flag. Now, flag burning is protected speech, but the
executive order brings into it brings in an element of
whether or not you burn the flag with the intent
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to inside a riot. It's an interesting question. We'll see
if it pass constitutional muster. Here's President Trump. When you
burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Never seen before. People go crazy in a way both ways.
There's some that are going crazy for doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
There are others that are angry angry about them doing it. Yeah,
So the president's point of view is he is protecting
life by stopping you from burning the flag because people
will get so upset that they'll start rioting. It's an
interesting angle. I can't support it. You have a right
to do it if you want to do it. That
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really isn't the question. The question is why are you
burning the flag? Like what is your beef and how
is burning I get it, you were trying to bring
attention to yourself, but you have to appreciate how offensive
that is to so many of us. But I work
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in San Diego where we have military and retired military
that swore to defend that flag and what it represents.
So it reminded me of that moment right here in
Los Angeles in nineteen seventy six. So there were flag burners.
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Then they were flag burners in nineteen seventy six. Who
knows what they were upset about, but they were at
Dodger Stadium and they were dousing the American flag with
gasoline right in centerfield, and nobody was sure what was
going on. In the seventies, you had all kinds of
things going on during baseball games.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You had streakers, You had women coming out there to
stealing a kiss.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
That was the kiss a bandit, So all kinds of
use of the baseball diamond as a way to make.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Some kind of a statement.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Remember the streakers, So nobody knew what they were doing,
like are they taking off their clothes?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What are they about to do?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And when it became clear right around the time, they
flicked the lighter and they were going.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
To burn the American flag.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Who remembers Chicago Cubs outfielder Rick Monday.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
That's right, Curtesive, Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So listen to the reaction. So everybody at Dodger Stadium
was mad. They booed that he was that these two
kids from Missouri. As it turns out, we're going to
burn the American flag. And everybody on Monday was playing
for the Cubs. He wasn't a Dodger, but all the
Dodger fans got out of their chairs and started cheer.
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Rick Monday runs by them and snatches the flag right
from them, right as they're about to burn the flag,
and and the reaction from Sculley, you hear him they
were gonna burn the flag. Can you imagine that? So
in a world of flag burners, be Rick Monday.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
They probably can't do it in the outfield at Dodger Stadium,
but they probably could do it, you know, in front
of a courthouse or in front of the capitol or
something like that. But you know, but yes, of course, yeah,
if you want to burn, if you must burn the flag,
I suppose you have a right to go ahead and
burn the flag.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But recognize the rest of us. I mean, if you're
not gonna be Rick Monday, at.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Least even Scully and be like, there, we're gonna burn
the flag.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Can you imagine that.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
From it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I love it. That was Los Angeles nineteen seventy six. Today,
I suspect there would be more people rooting for the
people that want to burn the flag.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It would be interesting to see what would have happened today,
Like would Rick Monday today, would Rick Monday be canceled
because he stopped the flag burning or would he be
celebrated by the way Monday a Marine reservist.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So those two kids got off easy. Seems to me
I would not have read.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I mean, it's a good thing that he wasn't in
the on deck circle with the bat in's hand. But
that's the way people feel about the flag, So please
reserve your political speech to proportionality. Like that's the biggest
beef I have with the people that refuse to stand
for the national anthem. If you believe that there is
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injustice in this country, and there are certainly evidence there's
certainly evidence of injustice in various categories, particularly when it
comes to policing and sentencing, and they're legitimate discussions that
ought to be had, were not perfect, and there is
room for improvement.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
There always will be.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But if you believe that there is just injustice in
a specific area, whether it's policing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Or sentencing or.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Whatever, then use your celebrity, use your status, use your
voice to go affect.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Change where change can be made.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right, instead of refusing to stand for the national anthem
in the National Football League on your day off, go
down to city hall or go to the capital of
the whatever state you're in and co sponsor legislation or
be president at a press conference. In the game, man
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like affect change, champion the cause off the field, because
the remedy for whatever it is that's bothering you. Whether
it is the concern that African Americans are disproportionately sentenced
for crimes, if that, if that, if you believe that
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to be tewing, there are a lot of learned people
and thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Discussions about that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you believe that, then that flag represents the pathway
to resolution. So don't get mad at the American flag,
don't get mad at the pledge of allegiance, don't get
mad at the national anthem. Embrace that, which is the
way you can affect change to better your community or
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better the society.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Burn the flag, go to.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The building that the flag is flown over, and petition
lawmakers for change.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's the right way. So in a world of flag burners.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
B Rick Monday, Lou Penrose and for John Coblt on
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week. Good to
have you along with us.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Following the news at three, so Lyle Menendez was denied
parole just like his brother. Both Menendez brothers remain in prison,
and there's no sign though they're getting out anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Late Friday night, at Parole Board.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric, will
not get parole, despite the next the Netflix documentary. They
can try again in three years, the board finding that
the Menendez brothers remained too great a risk to the
public if they're.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Released, which proves my point.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Nobody gets rehabilitated in prison, Like, why do we even
call it the Department of Rehabilitation. Nobody is better off
having been in prison. At the very best, they will
be wiser for the wear and maybe not want to
go back to prison. But I think we need to
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put to rest this idea that we're doing anybody any
favors by sending them to prison. We're just keeping them
away from us, and that's the best we can do.
There will always be liars, there will always be cheats,
There will always be thieves. They will always be crooks,
and really age is what breaks the crook.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But then they become consultants to other crooks.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
But like, there's nothing that goes on at the correctional
facilities that stop thieves from being thieves. Other than they're
afraid of coming back. Nobody wants to get sent back
to jail, like that's the only thing we have going
for us. So if we make prison a bad place
to be, then that will act as its own determent.
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But I don't know that we're able to process people
into law abouding citizens in there. I am Catholic, and
I am reminded by my faith that Jesus was crucified
between two thieves crucify. The punishment for stealing was crucifixion,
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and people still stole. So I don't think, you know,
looking at a ninety day stretch, you know a county,
is is any.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Discern at all?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
All Right, So we will talk with who we got here,
Alex Stone for ABC News.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He'll give us the latest on the lelman Endez.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Decision and what that means and what will happen over
the next three years and if they're going to continue
on this route following that, there is an assembly member
out of the San Fernando Valley that's working on legislation
that I actually think is a good idea. It's a Democrat,
but what he wants to do is begin the process
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of getting ultra processed foods out of your kid's lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, I'm not a big fan of government.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I am a small government kind of guy, and I
don't want government in our lives. But we're here, and
the food that's being served and that's being administered really
to your children in school is really really processed and
really really bad for them. As somebody remember, Jesse Gabriel
is trying to change that. He's trying to phase out
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ultra process school, ultra processed foods.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
From the school. My two littles started today.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I have three sons and their cousin is staying with
us for a while, so I got four in the house.
And my two oldest ones started his his junior year
and one started freshmen, so they're both in high school now,
and the littles are starting what sixth grade in fifth grade,
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and today was their first day. So when I go home,
it'll be like a normal house for the first time
since June. Why everybody goes to school so early is
beyond me, but for whatever reason, at least this year,
high school started like in early August, and lower school
just started today at least for my district, And so
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now everybody is in school and so we'll start the
routines of homework and laundry will be normal for my
wife and I and I'm very excited to return to
normalcy and return to what I call regular order in life.
But the food thing is becoming a thing because I
really think that this administration. I think Robert F. Kennedy
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Junior is onto something. I think he's raising awareness. I
think that a lot of people are getting very health
conscious with respect to carbohydrates when they start, and as
much inasmuch as some of these keto diets are fat ish, right,
I mean, eating nothing but steak and fruit or steak
and honey can't go on forever.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But that's the current fad. And I think as.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
People literally eliminate every form of refined white flour from
their diet, even for like week or ten days, they
immediately begin to feel the effects. I limit it very much,
and I've seen the change in my own life and
my own health in just my own brain fog. There's
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something going on in that white flower that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is talking about, and it's for real. I
was cleaning out we had some friends over over the weekend,
and I was just kind of cleaning out.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The bread drawer.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We have a bread drawer in our house because everybody
likes different things to make sandwiches. And we were getting
ready for back to school, so I had to get
lunch meat and get everything all together and make sure
everyone has the kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Role that they like to make their sandwich.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
And I found I think it must have been from
the fourth of July. I found hamburger buns, like from
the life time we bought hamburger buns, which certainly would
have been the fourth of July, and they look perfect.
And I thought, there's something wrong with this. I mean,
there's no way this could be healthy for you if
this stuff hasn't gone bad. Now it's dated and it
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should not be consumed. I threw it away, but it
didn't look moldy, like nothing molds anymore. And I thought,
this is the kind of stuff that they're serving these
kids in school, so this assembly might be onto something.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Now, how you replace that, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I mean, I certainly think they could figure out they
serve children real food in other countries. I have family
in Switzerland, and I remember having this conversation when I
was there visiting them with my family. The food that
they served in some of these European like preliminary schools
what they call them, like.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Lower schools, is like real food. It really is healthy,
good food.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And the food that's served in public school now is
just horrible. And it's not just in public school schools.
The lunches are just terrible for kids. And everybody talks
about how after lunch the kids are racy and then
they crash and then they get tired, and I'm thinking, well,
of course, look at the junk that they're being served.
And since COVID now everybody's allowed to have lunch, they
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change the rules so that lunch is quote free, which
is always rich to me. In the building where somebody
in the economics department is supposed to teach my children
the phrase, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
The governor is out there touting the fact that no
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one has to pay for lunch in public schools any longer.
And I've seen these lunches and they're horrible, Like the
only thing that's healthy is the apple or the orange
or the banana, and no kid eats an apple or
an orange or a banana.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So it's just the process stuff and it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So I do the best I can to send them
to school with, like, at least something that's reasonably good
for them, And I'm in control of breakfast.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But this is somemply.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Member wants to get the government involved and phase out
ultra processed food from all public schools. They want to
do it by twenty twenty eight, so it's a quick turnaround.
We'll talk about that all coming up next on KFI
AM Sex six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, this back
and forth with this individual, Kilmar Abrego Garcia continues. They
say he was deported to El Salvador in violation of
a judge's order, then brought back to the United States
back in June at the Supreme Court order the Trump
administration to facilitate the return. He was detained on human
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smuggling charges, which he denies. Now this goes back to
a stop in Tennessee in twenty twenty two, which is
on film, this video of it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Uh, and he's in there.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
He got eight other guys in the vehicle, nobody speaks English,
everyone's got cash, nobody knows what's going on. Clearly human smuggling.
I mean, what else do you think it was a
slumber party? And they're saying, no, he's got a he's
denying that. And so he's now in custody and apparently
on his way to Uganda at the detention facility there.
(01:01):
Art Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy
at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All right, thanks for coming on with us. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Every single minute there's a change, some judges trying to
stop this and judges trying to stop that.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Where are we give us an update where we're at
with this fellow.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
So just a real quick recap. Lou A Breako Garcia
came in around twenty and twelve. He was picked up
in a parking lot in Maryland in twenty and nineteen.
I took him into custody because he was with a
bunch of MS thirteen members of verified source said he
was a member of MS thirteen two. One immigration judge
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denied him bond. Another immigration judge found that because of
threats against his mother's Papoosa business back home at El Salvador,
he'd be persecuted. Fast forward, so he granted him withholding
of removal. He ordered him removed, but the government couldn't
remove him to El Salvador. Fast forward to twenty twenty five.
He gets taken into custody. In March, he gets sent
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to El Salvador. El Salvador places him in a sea
coot terrorist prison. His family goes to court in Maryland.
Judge Paula's Innis asks for him to be returned she
issues in order that requires the federal government to effectuate
and facilitate his return to the United States. Supreme Court says, no,
you can't force the US government to engage in diplomacy,
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but you know you can tell him to facilitate his return. Finally,
he's returned. In June. He sent to Tennessee to face
the charges that you mentioned. Under federal bond law, the
presumption is that criminal detainees won't be detained pending trial.
So that judge released and be held on to him
for a while because he didn't want to get released
(02:48):
because he was afraid Iceer was going to take him
into custody. So Judge Inn, it's back to her in Maryland.
She says, you can't take him right into custody. If
he does get released, you gotta let him come back
to Maryland. Apparently he traveled with security paid for by
his lawyers to bring him back to Maryland. That's quite
a trip, let me tell you. And so this morning
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he was taken into custody when he showed up for
an appointment in Maryland. Ice in Maryland said that they
were going to send him to Uganda. Apparently, and the
judge his attorneys ran to Judge Zennis again in Maryland
and said, you got to stop this, and so she
has put a hold on the removal of him to
you Ganda until she has an opportunity to hear arguments
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from the parties.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Man, when I think about, all I can think about
during that update was the amount of legal time, the
amount of legal work, the amount of like court clerks
and sonographers and police departments and judges and judges time
to sort this guy out, who is certainly bad news.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Is unbelievable. Why again, can't he just go home? What's
the argument? What's the thing with his mother? She that
what they're not? Their sideways with the with the black
hand there in El Salvador. What's the problem.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, you know, that's funny thing, Lou is that his
claim is based upon an assertion that he would be
harmed by a gang called Barrio eighteen in El Salvador. Now,
of course, the government's argument is that he's an MS
thirteen member, And if you know anything at all about
gang violence in El Salvador, Barrio eighteen and MS thirteen
didn't get along for years. They fought with one another.
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But he didn't say that Barrio eighteen won them because
he was an MS thirteen member, and remember MS thirteen
starts you off pretty young. In El Salvador. What he
said was that his mother ran a papoosa business. They're
a pastry, quite tasty if you ever have one. And
it was so successful that Barrio eighteen came by looking
for extortion. Basically, they wanted protection money so that they didn't,
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you know, either kidnapped him or raped his sisters. And
so for some reason, the second immigration judge that I
talked about found that this constituted an asylum claim. I
was an immigration judge for eight years. This is simple extortion.
If this guy has a persecution claim, then Charles Lindbergh
had a persecution claim when his kid was kidnapped by
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Bruno Hofftman. But you know, it's everything about this case
has been sideways from Jump Street. You know, the second
immigration judges order the deportation of this guy Del Salvador.
The you know, Judge zenn is getting very involved in
this thing. Since there's such a degree that the Streme
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Court had to step in. I mean, there's just so
much wrong with this case that you know, if we
could have stepped it at any point in this we
could have undone it. But here's really the question loud
that nobody's asking. When he got sent to L. Salvador
in error. The salvador and government didn't do what it
does with every other person. We deport El Salvador, stamp
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your passport, welcome you back into the country. Tell you
of the nice day they put him into Seacott.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Right, everybody o country was afraid of him.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They didn't want him walking around out there.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, that's the one thing. You know, I've talked about
Bragio Garcia one hundred times to various media outlets, but
that is the one thing that no media outlet really
touches on. There's no reason, I mean that the Trump
administration wouldn't say, hey, here's one of your nationals back
put him in jail, any more than Britain would say,
you know, hey, here's Leu and Art. We're gonna send
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them back to you when we want you to put
them in jail. We're never going to do that. So
it appears that L. Salvador wanted this guy in jail,
not the Trump administration. But that's the one point of
the story that nobody really seems to be hammering down
on So.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What what do we do?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like, what is our obligation as a state department, as
a justice department, as a homeland security agency, like, what
is our obligation to this foreign national?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Where do we where do.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
We leave him? Well, because of the protection that he got,
which is called statutory withholding, it's not asylum and he
has been ordered removed, we can send him to any
country on the face of the earth other than El Salvador.
But because he got deported to El Salvador and then
brought back, I don't want to get into how complicated
it is, but we basically need to reinstate that original
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removal order, which means that he can ask to talk
to an asylum office, or the asylum officer is going
to say, we're going to send you to Uganda. He's
going to claim that he fears persecution in Uganda. By
the way, part of his claim is he doesn't speak
the language. Well, he doesn't speak English either, and he's
been living here in the national language of Uganda is English.
But so yeah, I mean it'll probably be a pretty
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quick turnaround. In less of course, the asylum officer believes
that he really does have a claim, then an immigration
judge is going to hear his case again. But that
should all happen pretty quickly. Now keep in mind also
that Costa Rica has apparently said they'll take this guy,
and he wants to go to Costa Rica. So one
thing that you may see is that, you know, the
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Trump administration simply says, fine, we'll send you to Costa Rica.
But remember the part that I talked about before you
and I just mentioned lou that El Salvador put him
into its prison. Now if he goes to Costa Rica,
El Salvador may seek to extradite him from Costa Rica.
Now they are very good relations back to El Salvador.
(08:28):
So quite frankly, you know this story might play out
for the next year, year and a half, two years.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Art Arthur with the Center for Immigration Studies, thanks so
much for bringing us up to speed.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's it's one of those stories just doesn't ever seem
to go away.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And it's a top story out of DC today and
the Uganda turn is my favorite one. We'll see if
he takes the Costa Rica deal or goes to Uganda,
the pearl of the African continent.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Louke Penrose on news radio.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And for John Cobalt today on KFI A six forty
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, talking about
the back and forth and back and forth with Kilmar
Abrego Garcia. The President wants to send him to Uganda.
Uganda has a really an agreement with the United States
to accept third country nationals that are not being granted
asylum in the United States. Garcia not eligible for asylum.
(09:33):
Everybody always knew that, but it is interesting now that
he is at He claims he's at risk and has
been able to convince a federal judge that he is
at risk at home. So the only thing he can
do is go to Costa Rica, but then may get
extradited by the El Salvado government.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Look, you know, this is.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Actually is not all that interesting to me. It's kind
of an interesting story how we got here.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It would be.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Much better if illegals stop lying. But I understand illegals lie.
They constantly lie, and that's how we get wrapped up
in all this.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Because we're a nation of law.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And order, and law and order requires truth, So we
apply what is available to a foreign national based on
what they say, and then when they lie.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It gets all fouled up. And this is a troublesome fellow.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
He was identified by a valid source that he was
a member of MS thirteen. Strike one, he was found
with rolls of cash and drugs and other MS thirteen
game members.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Strike two.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
He was stopped in Tennessee by the highway patrol with
eight other illegals in the car and the car wasn't
registered to him. Strike three, he was They caught him solicit.
Court filings have him soliciting nude photographs of a mind.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Strike four.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
His wife petitioned for an order of protection, a tr
temporary strainting order because he punched her and scratched her
and ripped her shirt and bruised her.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Strike five. I mean, why do I need these people
in my country?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And now because his mother's pastry shop is so good
and she won't pay protection money to the local gang there,
he can't go back like this.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I guess this is a problem for him. It's a
problem for him, it's a problem for his wife.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't know what idiot marries in illegal. This is
on her that his family is got problems.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That is a shame.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like, the only thing stupider than marrying an illegal is
having a child with an illegal, which apparently she has done.
And then I'm supposed to feel bad because they're hugging,
like I was watching TV this morning and the like
they got camera shots of the family hugging goodbye as
he is taken away by the ice folks.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And I'm thinking, why are you crying? Like where do
the tears factor in? You married an illegal, a gang member.
He must have told you the story of his mother's
pastry shop.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And as I said, the only thing stupider than marrying
in illegal is having a child with an illegal.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And now you're crying.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Like these are problems for this weirdo family, but they
are in fact their problems.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
They're not our problems.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Stop making your absurd life choices become my country's problems.
And do not even try and make me feel bad.
Don't feel bad for these people. Don't let them make
you feel bad. These are foolish, foolish people, and they're
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playing internationals and they're paying international prices, and you know,
we just heard the art Arthur gave us the recap
of how much my court system has been involved in
this guy's life, and all I can think about is
how many clerks, how much overtime, how many judges, how
many you know, public defenders, how many people?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
How much tax payer dollars have been.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Spent sorting out this guy's dishonest, stupid life, and it's
still happening. People like, oh, Loup, but don't you feel
bad for the children. Yeah, I feel bad for the children.
They are foreign children, They're not I don't know. I mean,
I don't know if this with this woman's situation is.
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I don't know if she's gonna go follow him to Uganda.
She should probably get a small apartment outside the detention
facility in Uganda and then she can go visit him
or contact the mother and El Salvador. Maybe she should
move there. I don't know what she should do. What
idiot marries and illegal So she's got, you know all.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mean, her passport is.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Up to date, because I suspect she's gonna be doing
a lot of traveling. But again, these are their problems.
There was a story about an uber driver guy lived
in Paramount and my home radio station is in San Diego,
and we were doing the story because it involved an
issue in San Diego. Guy was an Uber driver got
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missed the exit very close to the border in San
Diego and wound up in Mexico. But the person was
a DACA person. So he was brought into my country
illegally by his illegal alien parents from Guatemala at the
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age of ten. He's now thirty one, so he's a
grown ass man. And again he's married and has children.
So another idiot marries an illegal, and another idiot has
children with illegal and now he is in fact illegal
and a grown ass man driving from Uber. But as
a result of President Obama is under the Deferred Action
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for Childhood Arrivals program.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, I get it. That's fair, right. Shouldn't be mad
at the child. They had nothing to do with the
fact that their.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Illegal alien parents dragged them into the country illegally when
he was ten years old.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
What's he gonna do? But but you know, TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Day has become weeks, weeks become months, and now he's
a grown man. Still at illegal. DACA doesn't absolve you
from being an illegal. You're still illegally in the country.
You were just a childhood arrival. So we defer action.
That's what DACA stands for. So the federal government defers action,
any action against you, until we can figure out what
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to do, because there's no real good answer what to
do with a child who is now thirty one, just
as illegal as they were when they were ten.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
But now are grown up.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, among the things you can't do as a a
DACA person is leave. You know why, because once you
cross the border into Mexico, how do you get back
into the United States to drive home to your house
in Paramount.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You can't because you're not Mexican, you're not American, you're Guatemalan.
And it's a long drive.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And so there he is in Mexico, stuck, and everybody
was crying about it, and they were on TV and
the parents are crying, and the wife is crying, and
the children are crying, and he's stuck in Mexico because
he can't come back into the United States. He's being
detained in Mexico because he's not Mexican, he's not American,
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didn't have his Guatemalan passport on him.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Shocker.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And you know the story is narrated in such a
way that I'm supposed to feel bad, and I won't
feel bad. That is that's a real problem. I have
to admit. That's a good one. That's complicated and complex.
You got he's he's the breadwinner. I mean, he was
a he was able to knock up a local here
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in Los Angeles and have four children.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So she's a real butte when it comes to picking soulmates.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But nevertheless, they those four children are certainly American and
ultimately will become our responsibility to raise because they're young. Well,
actually the three children, and she's, you know, in a
family way. With the fourth, she's American. He's an uber driver,
he's in Mexico, and it's and and the parents. Over
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the years, their parents, his parents somehow were able to
go back to Guatemala a number of times and get
their their legal residents now. So he's the only one.
And I thought, that's a that's a decent story. I
gotta I gotta be honest, I don't know how to
solve that one.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I remain.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Still in my resolve that this is in fact their problem,
their family.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Problem, not my problem, not my country's problem. And I suspect.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
If you're a DOCA person and you drive Ruber, don't
take any fares that take you near the border. That's
the only lesson that I learned out of this one.
All right, when we come back, we got another one. Uh,
let's see here, Oh, the Sherman Oaks folks. We got
to talk about the Sherman Oaks folks. There was a
raid at the home depot in Sherman Oaks and a
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bunch of Americans got involved and got in the way
and one got detained.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And that's always fun. So we'll do that next.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Lou Penrose in for John coblt this week.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Good to have you along with US President Trump today
making some news with respect to his executive order over
the flag. Now, flag burning is protected speech, but the
executive order brings into it brings in an element of
whether or not you burn the flag with the intent
(19:13):
to inside a riot. It's an interesting question. We'll see
if it pass constitutional muster. Here's President Trump. When you
burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Never seen before. People go crazy in a way both ways.
There's some that are going crazy for doing it.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
There are others that are angry angry about them doing it. Yeah,
So the president's point of view is he is protecting
life by stopping you from burning the flag because people
will get so upset that they'll start rioting. It's an
interesting angle. I can't support it. You have a right
to do it if you want to do it. That
(19:53):
really isn't the question. The question is why are you
burning the flag? Like what is your beef and how
is burning I get it, you were trying to bring
attention to yourself, but you have to appreciate how offensive
that is to so many of us. But I work
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in San Diego where we have military and retired military
that swore to defend that flag and what it represents.
So it reminded me of that moment right here in
Los Angeles in nineteen seventy six. So there were flag burners.
(20:37):
Then they were flag burners in nineteen seventy six. Who
knows what they were upset about, but they were at
Dodger Stadium and they were dousing the American flag with
gasoline right in centerfield, and nobody was sure what was
going on. In the seventies, you had all kinds of
things going on during baseball games.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You had streakers, You had women coming out there to
stealing a kiss.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
That was the kiss a bandit, So all kinds of
use of the baseball diamond as a way to make.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Some kind of a statement.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Remember the streakers, So nobody knew what they were doing,
like are they taking off their clothes?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What are they about to do?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And when it became clear right around the time, they
flicked the lighter and they were going.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
To burn the American flag.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Who remembers Chicago Cubs outfielder Rick Monday.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
That's right, Curtesive, Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So listen to the reaction. So everybody at Dodger Stadium
was mad. They booed that he was that these two
kids from Missouri. As it turns out, we're going to
burn the American flag. And everybody on Monday was playing
for the Cubs. He wasn't a Dodger, but all the
Dodger fans got out of their chairs and started cheer.
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Rick Monday runs by them and snatches the flag right
from them, right as they're about to burn the flag,
and and the reaction from Sculley, you hear him they
were gonna burn the flag. Can you imagine that? So
in a world of flag burners, be Rick Monday.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They can do it.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
They probably can't do it in the outfield at Dodger Stadium,
but they probably could do it, you know, in front
of a courthouse or in front of the capitol or
something like that. But you know, but yes, of course, yeah,
if you want to burn, if you must burn the flag,
I suppose you have a right to go ahead and
burn the flag.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But recognize the rest of us. I mean, if you're
not gonna be Rick Monday, at.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Least even Scully and be like, there, we're gonna burn
the flag.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Can you imagine that.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
From it?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I love it. That was Los Angeles nineteen seventy six. Today,
I suspect there would be more people rooting for the
people that want to burn the flag.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It would be interesting to see what would have happened today,
Like would Rick Monday today, would Rick Monday be canceled
because he stopped the flag burning or would he be
celebrated by the way Monday a Marine reservist.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So those two kids got off easy. Seems to me
I would not have read.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I mean, it's a good thing that he wasn't in
the on deck circle with the bat in's hand. But
that's the way people feel about the flag, So please
reserve your political speech to proportionality. Like that's the biggest
beef I have with the people that refuse to stand
for the national anthem. If you believe that there is
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injustice in this country, and there are certainly evidence there's
certainly evidence of injustice in various categories, particularly when it
comes to policing and sentencing, and they're legitimate discussions that
ought to be had, were not perfect, and there is
room for improvement.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
There always will be.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But if you believe that there is just injustice in
a specific area, whether it's policing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Or sentencing or.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Whatever, then use your celebrity, use your status, use your
voice to go affect.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Change where change can be made.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right, instead of refusing to stand for the national anthem
in the National Football League on your day off, go
down to city hall or go to the capital of
the whatever state you're in and co sponsor legislation or
be president at a press conference. In the game, man
(25:02):
like affect change, champion the cause off the field, because
the remedy for whatever it is that's bothering you. Whether
it is the concern that African Americans are disproportionately sentenced
for crimes, if that, if that, if you believe that
(25:23):
to be tewing, there are a lot of learned people
and thoughtful.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Discussions about that.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you believe that, then that flag represents the pathway
to resolution. So don't get mad at the American flag,
don't get mad at the pledge of allegiance, don't get
mad at the national anthem. Embrace that, which is the
way you can affect change to better your community or
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better the society.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Burn the flag, go to.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The building that the flag is flown over, and petition
lawmakers for change.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's the right way. So in a world of flag burners.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
B Rick Monday, Lou Penrose and for John Coblt on
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week. Good to
have you along with us.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Following the news at three, so Lyle Menendez was denied
parole just like his brother. Both Menendez brothers remain in prison,
and there's no sign though they're getting out anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Late Friday night, at Parole Board.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric, will
not get parole, despite the next the Netflix documentary. They
can try again in three years, the board finding that
the Menendez brothers remained too great a risk to the
public if they're.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Released, which proves my point.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Nobody gets rehabilitated in prison, Like, why do we even
call it the Department of Rehabilitation. Nobody is better off
having been in prison. At the very best, they will
be wiser for the wear and maybe not want to
go back to prison. But I think we need to
(27:15):
put to rest this idea that we're doing anybody any
favors by sending them to prison. We're just keeping them
away from us, and that's the best we can do.
There will always be liars, there will always be cheats,
There will always be thieves. They will always be crooks,
and really age is what breaks the crook.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But then they become consultants to other crooks.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
But like, there's nothing that goes on at the correctional
facilities that stop thieves from being thieves. Other than they're
afraid of coming back. Nobody wants to get sent back
to jail, like that's the only thing we have going
for us. So if we make prison a bad place
to be, then that will act as its own determent.
(28:04):
But I don't know that we're able to process people
into law abouding citizens in there. I am Catholic, and
I am reminded by my faith that Jesus was crucified
between two thieves crucify. The punishment for stealing was crucifixion,
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and people still stole. So I don't think, you know,
looking at a ninety day stretch, you know a county,
is is any.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Discern at all?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
All Right, So we will talk with who we got here,
Alex Stone for ABC News.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He'll give us the latest on the lelman Endez.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Decision and what that means and what will happen over
the next three years and if they're going to continue
on this route following that, there is an assembly member
out of the San Fernando Valley that's working on legislation
that I actually think is a good idea. It's a Democrat,
but what he wants to do is begin the process
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of getting ultra processed foods out of your kid's lunch.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, I'm not a big fan of government.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I am a small government kind of guy, and I
don't want government in our lives. But we're here, and
the food that's being served and that's being administered really
to your children in school is really really processed and
really really bad for them. As somebody remember, Jesse Gabriel
is trying to change that. He's trying to phase out
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ultra process school, ultra processed foods.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
From the school. My two littles started today.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I have three sons and their cousin is staying with
us for a while, so I got four in the house.
And my two oldest ones started his his junior year
and one started freshmen, so they're both in high school now,
and the littles are starting what sixth grade in fifth grade,
(30:01):
and today was their first day. So when I go home,
it'll be like a normal house for the first time
since June. Why everybody goes to school so early is
beyond me, but for whatever reason, at least this year,
high school started like in early August, and lower school
just started today at least for my district, And so
(30:22):
now everybody is in school and so we'll start the
routines of homework and laundry will be normal for my
wife and I and I'm very excited to return to
normalcy and return to what I call regular order in life.
But the food thing is becoming a thing because I
really think that this administration. I think Robert F. Kennedy
(30:44):
Junior is onto something. I think he's raising awareness. I
think that a lot of people are getting very health
conscious with respect to carbohydrates when they start, and as
much inasmuch as some of these keto diets are fat ish, right,
I mean, eating nothing but steak and fruit or steak
and honey can't go on forever.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But that's the current fad. And I think as.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
People literally eliminate every form of refined white flour from
their diet, even for like week or ten days, they
immediately begin to feel the effects. I limit it very much,
and I've seen the change in my own life and
my own health in just my own brain fog. There's
(31:26):
something going on in that white flower that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is talking about, and it's for real. I
was cleaning out we had some friends over over the weekend,
and I was just kind of cleaning out.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The bread drawer.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We have a bread drawer in our house because everybody
likes different things to make sandwiches. And we were getting
ready for back to school, so I had to get
lunch meat and get everything all together and make sure
everyone has the kind of.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Role that they like to make their sandwich.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
And I found I think it must have been from
the fourth of July. I found hamburger buns, like from
the life time we bought hamburger buns, which certainly would
have been the fourth of July, and they look perfect.
And I thought, there's something wrong with this. I mean,
there's no way this could be healthy for you if
this stuff hasn't gone bad. Now it's dated and it
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should not be consumed. I threw it away, but it
didn't look moldy, like nothing molds anymore. And I thought,
this is the kind of stuff that they're serving these
kids in school, so this assembly might be onto something.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Now, how you replace that, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I mean, I certainly think they could figure out they
serve children real food in other countries. I have family
in Switzerland, and I remember having this conversation when I
was there visiting them with my family. The food that
they served in some of these European like preliminary schools
what they call them, like.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Lower schools, is like real food. It really is healthy,
good food.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And the food that's served in public school now is
just horrible. And it's not just in public school schools.
The lunches are just terrible for kids. And everybody talks
about how after lunch the kids are racy and then
they crash and then they get tired, and I'm thinking, well,
of course, look at the junk that they're being served.
And since COVID now everybody's allowed to have lunch, they
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change the rules so that lunch is quote free, which
is always rich to me. In the building where somebody
in the economics department is supposed to teach my children
the phrase, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
The governor is out there touting the fact that no
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one has to pay for lunch in public schools any longer.
And I've seen these lunches and they're horrible, Like the
only thing that's healthy is the apple or the orange
or the banana, and no kid eats an apple or
an orange or a banana.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So it's just the process stuff and it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
So I do the best I can to send them
to school with, like, at least something that's reasonably good
for them, And I'm in control of breakfast.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But this is somemply.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Member wants to get the government involved and phase out
ultra processed food from all public schools. They want to
do it by twenty twenty eight, so it's a quick turnaround.
We'll talk about that all coming up next on KFI
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