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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Cole is on the phone today for a first day
follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Aria.
So in a few minutes we'll call her and see
if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe
get him a second date. But first, Cole, how long
has it been since he talked to Aria?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey, guys, uh, it's been a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Enough to wear.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know, something's up for sure, and I'd like to
know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Are you still thinking you like Aria or you just
want to know what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean I definitely like her. I thought there was
a vibe and you know, it was a good night.
I just I also don't know what what like the
do come to this time? You know? I don't know.
Let's come sort to the dog.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Why don't you just tell us about the date? Then?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Sure? Yeah. So we started at this wine bar and
it wasn't one of those pretentious places like it's actually
was really super chill and viby. It had string whites
on the ceiling and gels and books everywhere, and this
little stage in the corner, and there was actually a
guy there playing acoustic covers, which is perfect because music
(01:05):
is my kind of thing. That's sort of what I do.
And so anyway, we ordered a flight and Aria didn't
pretend to know all the wine turns, which is cute
and fun, and she took a sip and said, you know,
this one tastes like sadness, and I started laughing because
that's funny, and you know, she's funny like that, doesn't
try too hard, and it was just like a free
phone sort of vibe. Then we get into like one
(01:29):
of those conversations when you kind of don't expect on
a first date, you know. We talked about our parents,
about how we grew up, what we want out of
our life, you know, kind of deep stuff. She told
me about traveling solo and how she's addicted to books
she can't finish, and I admitted I still write songs
in my notebook like a teenager because I'm a musician
and didn't learn about that. The bark down was book
(01:51):
clothing tabs, and neither of us pretty much was moving,
like we were just kind of like just gazing, you know,
kept talking to each other, leaning in like there was
no one around us, the room had disappeared. There was
really sweet. Can this way of looking at me where
you know, I felt seen? You know, you don't get
back too often, you know, if you're got an you
guys date, but like it's it's not easy out there.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Do you think she felt the same way?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I think so for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There was an energy there. If she wasn't liking it
or feeling I assumed she would have sort of say
I'm gonna get away, I'm gonna get going. She didn't
say that at all. Yeah, you know she's different, she's sharp,
you know, she challenges me, and but she also has
like this amazing stuffs died to her. The way she
listened there wasn't just small talk, you know what I mean,
it was I don't know, it just felt.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Real, you like her. What could have gone wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Then it's a great question. I don't know. At the
end of at the end of the day, she said,
she suggested, I don't know, maybe heading back to my place,
which okay, I wanted to, but she had a few
glasses in the wine and I didn't want anything to
happen when we were both totally clear headed. You know what,
we weren't very much like we weren't. We had a
few doings, so we're like, we were just kind of
(03:02):
buzzing and had a nice time. My mom raised me
to respect women, So for me, I called it a
night right there. You know, So maybe I do, or
maybe she thinks I'm not really into her by doing that,
or she's embarrassed that I said no, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Women don't take it very well when they get turned
down after asserting themselves.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Kind of like, but we do love a respectful man.
We do love a respectful man, so don't change that.
But if she didn't understand that's what was happening, did.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You explain it to her, did you say sorry, I'm
a respectful man.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I did say that. I text her the next day to.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Sea how she would be on and that's when she
didn't respond. And I want her to know how much
the night meant to me. But after a couple more texts,
they haven't heard a peep, and so.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I wonder if she feels like she embarrassed herself.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
All right, well, we'll see if we can figure it
out for you. Then we'll play a song, come back,
and then call her and see if sherselves why she's
ghosting you, and maybe get to a second date. Okay,
that's great. Thanks, Okay, we'll get your first day fall
up next. Right in the middle of your first date
follow up if you're just joining us, Cole is on
the phone and Cole is getting ghosted by Aria. So
(04:09):
we're about to call her and see if she'll tell
us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a
second date. But first, Cole, why don't you break down
your date again for us one more time? Real quick?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, so real quick. I mean, we went to this
really cool wine bar. We were viving. We spent a
couple hours there, you know, the Barker brothers our check.
We were still sort of gazing at each other, just
hawing a great time, not in a rush to get
out of there, and then she sort of suggested head
back to her plate, but you know, we would drink
in I want to be respectful, and I said, now
that's okay, I'm gonna call it a night here. And
(04:40):
so to me, maybe thinks she thinks I'm not into her,
or she's embarrassed or whatever. But I text her the
day after and she'd respond and it's been like ghost
town ever since.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay, well, are you ready for us to call her
and see if she'll tell us?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Why?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes? All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, man speak
to Aria please?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yes, this is she.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Hey, Aria, how are you? This is a radio show.
It's called The Jebel Show.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Hi, Aria, my name is Nina.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Hi, I'm Victoria, and my name is Jubal. How are you.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I'm a little confused.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's a radio show. It's called The Jubile Show. Have
you ever listened to it?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think I feel like I've heard of it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, okay, Well, we do a segment on the show
that's called the first Date follow Up. That's where if
you go on a date with someone and you ghost them,
that person can email us to ask you why you're
ghosting them. And we got an email about you from somebody?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yeah, any idea ghost somebody?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Is it cool?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
From Yeah? Do you mind telling us?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Why?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
This is so strange. He sent me a song I
felt like was a trap. He like wrote me a
whole song about how he felt seeing me for the
very first time, and he told you that we've been
on one day, right, Yeah, it was way too much.
(06:19):
It's like very loved bombing, saying all the right things,
like everything that you should say to get someone to
fall fast, and it just felt so manipulative.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It felt so love bomby.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
You didn't think it was sweet, but somebody wrote you
a song after meeting you.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Okay, let me hold on, let me pull this up
for you for a second. It was weird that he
wrote for me. Okay, your laugh lit the room like
a spark in the night.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
One glass of red wine and everything felt right. I
don't need forever to know what I've found with you, Ariya.
My feet never touched the ground. Fee that's so love
bombing and kind of just like icky, Okay, that's insane.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
After like a couple hours together, he.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Sounds like an artist, like he was just inspired by you.
Have you been loved bomb before?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Aria?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Do you feel like you're cautious about that type of
behavior for a reason.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I've definitely been loved bomb before, and so I know
I'm very cautious. But I think I'm cautious for a
reason because I think it's so easy to fall for
love bombing, because it just feels good and it feels
like without seeming like a self obsessed.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
It's like, yeah, of course you'd like me.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Of course I'm really great, you know, like, but you know,
I think it was like it was very strong, very
like head over here, my feet never touched the ground,
like the good first date.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But damn.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Your money.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, yeah, can I jump in on the phone
listening and wants to talk to you?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Song?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What hey?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
That the song was me being honest. My mom raised
me to believe women are goddesses, Like I don't say
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
You're doing it right now though, Like you're saying exactly
what I'm supposed to want to hear to like make
me think that your like head over heels crazy about
me and.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Now yeah, so wait, so treating.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You with respect is a problem. But I didn't take
you home because I didn't want to cross the line.
That's not being you know, if you just this basic decency.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I thought, well, it's not just you think that like
like makes you this saintly person. I just suggested that
we go back to yours because honestly, it was like,
in the moment, it felt right. I felt like continuing
the night. But that's just physical cool, that's not like love,
that's not like love at first sight and this what
you did with this song, it's so loaded. It's like
(08:55):
so feelings heavy.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean yeah, I don't. Someone hurt you obviously, and
someone someone must have think a love song is turning
you in a different direction or something like, That's not
what this was about. Like this is me being open,
in kind and vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Well, guys, I read you the short burden. I read
you verse one.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Do you think you would have been more comfortable if
he dedicated a song to you that already exists versus
like writing one.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I don't know, like maybe write the song, but then
maybe don't.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Like give it to me until maybe we've seen each
other a few more times. And it's like, I have
to confess I wrote this song about the way that
I felt about you after our first date, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That would have idea I would have been so romantic.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Then let me prove that, let me prove not all
men are the same. Let me I'm not asking for
forever here, I just want a second date. No songs
this time, just us.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Oh my god, you know, just did it again?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Would you like to go within? We'll pay for it.
I mean, I like to hear that? Are you?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Oh God, you just don't quit? But can you hear
the way? And I'm it's not even your fault, like
you're an artist, I get it. I'm not happy forever.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, I think that if he can kind of like
just dial it back a little bit and not be
so acting poetic, I could.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I mean, you're you're asking me to change like who
I am. You're asking me to change this core value
of who I am. I can't do that, you know
what I'm saying, This is who I am. I mean, Look,
here's the thing. If I'm into you, then I'm into you,
and I'm not going to be bashful about it.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm going to let you know.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You know. And we had a moment that night and
it was sweet, it was tender, it was time. You know.
I didn't want to go home with you obviously, I
want to be respectful and I don't you know what
I mean, like, this isn't what a gentleman does. And
I think your smile is a good sense and the
sunsets for that thing is beamon and I you know,
there's something here that make me pull out this poetry
(10:51):
and motion type stuff and you should be here you
should know about it, right, I.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Mean, I think that this is who he is through
and through.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's hard to not try to wonder if you know,
had you sent that exact song to another girl and
swapped out the name is just a move, but like
it just feels so performative, but maybe it's genuine.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I've written songs, but this one is specifically for you.
This isn't for anybody else. This is what inspired me
to write. I shared it with you. I'm not your
typical you know, musician you see on the corner of
the street or a play at the bar. This is
something wholesome and I don't know how else to prove
with you. But let me go it again. Let's try
it again. Let's go to a second date. And I'm
not going to bring my guitar. Jesus is real at
(11:37):
least given a chance, What do you have to lose?
These guys are gonna pay for work.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Come on, sure, yeah, you can just kind of get
to know each other on some real on a real level.
No guitar, no notebooks, don't write a poet and epic
poem about you know, my parking skills.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I would like that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Congratulations The day.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Amazing, amazing, this is this actually what was worth it?
Thank you guys, it's good and Aria, this is this
is wonderful. I'm excited to see you again. And you
know there is no flower in this world that is
as budding as you are. Just know that.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Oh wow wow Jubile's first day follow up