October 1, 2025 • 37 mins
Today we’re joined by an incredible rising artist who’s been making waves in the Korean hip-hop scene. Moon brings a truly global perspective to her music, blending French, English, and Korean. She’s self-taught herself languages and moved across the globe to pursue her dreams. She debuted in 2023 with her explosive single Seoul City Drift, followed by Moonlight. In 2024, she appeared on the popular show Rap:Public, which was hosted by Jay Park. We are so excited to dive into her journey and hear what’s coming next!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to The K Factor Everything
k Pop, hosted by Bomhan. I'm your host, Bomhan, and
(00:20):
today we have a very very special guest. Before that,
just a little bit reminder. You can get this podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Today, like I said, we were.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Joined by Moon, a global rising artist living in Korea
and visiting here in New York for fashion week.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, for fashion week eleven days.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, do you want the you walked to Alexander Wang show.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh yeah, it was so nice.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It was my freak's experience in a fashion week, So yeah,
it was a special day.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Welcome to New York.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I love it. That's so nice. Like there's so everything
is new to me.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So I'm having a really great time and especially the
people everywhere so nice.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Until now. I mean, I hope we will stay like that.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But yeah, I met incredible people and yeah, I'm having
a really good time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And you came here from Korea, right, okay. And I
was like reading up on like some stuff and like
we actually chatted a little bit on Tuesday a couple
of days before this, and I was like, oh my gosh,
we have so much stuff in common. So I want
to just kind of like introduce your story to like
the audience if possible.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So you're living in Korea right now, and how long
have you been there for?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So now, it's been basically six years, but officially two
years because before so, I went in Korea for the
first time in twenty nineteen and I was going back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know, like you don't have visa. It's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So you can stay like three months because I was
born and raised in Friends so it was really cool
and I loved it, but I had to find a
way to get a visa and just stay there because
with that visa in Korea, you can't do anything as
you can't get you can't like pay you rent, you
can't have a number, you can't you can't deliver food at.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Games.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I try to try to go to a PC bomb
and you're like, you're a citizen, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Ye I just want to play some legal legends.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, so you basically lose all the sparks that Korea has.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I was like, no, me too, I want that
full experience.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So it's a Korea from France, Yeah, from France. And France.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So I was born and raised in France, Paris, Paris, Yeah,
and the suburb.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And you love New York, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Actually like the literally the closest place I found in
New York because I grew up here. All the closest
places I found was Paris and Korea really and mix
of it or just like countries, like people have like there,
like things that are similar, you know, so like for
you to like come here and yeah, I love it,
like it makes me like feel good, I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Really like literally, And I think the same thing with
you about Korea and France is like the architecture it
reminds me here when I'm in Korea, high buildings, it's
really inspired by America. And in terms of the vibe,
like trass, even the narrow street is really so rad French.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know this one you know around?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yes, I always whenever I talk about Paris, I'm like, wow,
Paris is just like a super big soho have you
been to Flushing yet? Okay, it's like a Chinatown Korea.
When I went to Korea, I was like, it was
just like a big flushing crazy I need all that.
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And you moved to Korea to like pursue music.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So we went to Korea during the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, what age I was en? I was eighteen eighteen,
I was seventeen, you're seventeen.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, and we two thousand and one, so I was
seventeen two.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I was seventeen two, and then I moved and then
my birthday passed, and then I went from seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Years old to nineteen years old.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I'm finally because of the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Korean legal aged I was like, yo, I never experienced
being eighteen.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh I went from seventeen to like now, yeah, directly.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So then I mean, I don't know if I can
ask that, but you've been to clubs or you tried
could Yeah, okay, caper idol.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Life, I've I've been.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I've been going to like PR training recently and then
like they like went through all my stuff and they're like, wow,
You're like not good at this. No way, I just
be saying like whatever and just like being myself.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But anyway, yeah, no clubs. I have not gone to
any clubs.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Never even until now. No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But I did live in home day. Oh yeah, I
wasn't home day.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So that's the thing. Literally when you're living home day
time the time for.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my gosh, it was.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It was crazy because we used to train from like
nine pm all the way until like six am, and
I mean nine a m.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Until like six am.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right, I'll be coming home from like training, I'm like
super tired. I'm like limping home. And then like next
to me, it's like the people who are like at
the home day clubs and they're also limping home because
they're drunk. So it's just the two of us, like
we're both like drunk. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But you guys had the same goal but not the
same rules or they were like breaking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Rules the oh not like my not like my band
members in the street, people in the street. Like we
just looked the same because we're both like tired.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, crazy, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And after that you told me that, yeah, we were
living in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The same neighborhood afterwards, because I moved from home day to.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh my gosh, Yo is like a zombieing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, it's hard to admit, but it's kind of true.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, Like every because then people from like China, Japan
and like even Korea. Yeah, they they all go to
this like like area for plastic surgery. Poenis Yeah, yeah,
and there's like like the biggest plastic surgery capital of
the world.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And everyone has like bandages around their face.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You go to the coffee shop, You're like, yeah, coffee shop,
the elevator of my apartment, we're just like all bandaged up.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I was like, that's crazy because at the same time,
you know, I'm like, Okay, some people would do surgery
because they feel like insecure.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm like, damn, you go outside with.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
The feel good what are you secure about?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Like there's no there's no reason.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now casual like you just like go in and like
you can buy like a shirt like like like thirty dollars, yeah,
or you can go and you buy new lips for
thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's like to say that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So I was like when I was like living there,
like plastic surgery is like super like normalized.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Indeed, like your I don't know if I can ask that,
but it was okay, your agency or label back at
the time.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
They did I tell you, oh you should do oh
yeah all the time?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They I used to get like they used to like
do like nos for me. They used to do like
jaw fillers and all these things. It was just like
super normal.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And how did you feel, Like did he change a
lot of your face?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, it's all like temporary, you know, but then like,
oh my god, it felt so weird the first time
because I got I got a jaw filler, and then
I was like I couldn't bite food like you know,
like the protein bars. I couldn't eat protein bars and like.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Have done anything?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
No, no, I mean me, I didn't have like a
Korean agency or labels.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No one's telling me nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And the mindset is a little bit different too, like
I mean, like Frances very like natural beauty.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But at the same time, it's more like these two
is like a yes and no.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Because I was like, oh, because it's hip hop, we
don't really care about the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But I think a lot of people who do hip
hop they also do some like job on them, Like you.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Know, you could work at like a coffee shop and
kept working.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But yeah, I mean that's a good thing in Korea
because like the looks are so important.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Right, So why did you move to Korea?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So I just Korea because.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Like I said, I have a really big family and
I'm the middle child.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Everyone loves music, and.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
They were all like, okay, get your thing because they
had already their favorite genres. And the only genre that
I didn't pay attention to when I was eleven years
old was Asian music, Asian hip hop, Asian pop, Asian whatever.
So I started to get into it because basically I
discovered Yeah. That's also that I discovered a channel on
(09:03):
TV that they were putting like K pop and JPOB
and every time I had like a big crush on
those rappers.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Wow, I was always crushing who was it.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Big Bank Top, oh, Big Beanjee Dragon, Okay twenty one here,
always rappers and always from the same label also, and
I was like, okay, I want to go to y G.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I want to go there. I want to do my
music there.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And yeah, I ended up going to Korea and I
couldn't do the audition because you know what, guys, they
said I was already too old seventeen and I was
too old for ku imagine that's crazy. The only like
label who let me do the audition was JHYEP, but
they were not feitling to my idea of like hip
(09:53):
hop because most of the time it was YG doing
the really hip hop groups.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
My vibe was really what I wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So I was like, you know what, At a point,
I was like, maybe K pop doesn't fit me, Let
meter just do hip hop. And then when I started
to be in this vibe and mindset, everything about music
started to come to me. Labels, producer, friends, rappers, everything
started to you know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Like, yeah, because you're like you're good at what you doing.
You show me a bit of your music.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, and like the future projects that you have coming
up later, we're gonna like react live.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's like okay, love it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But like you're genuinely like good at what you do.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So it's like, of course, like you just go like okay, fine,
Like I don't need this agency. I'm hip hop, Like
this is what inspired me in the first place. And
I just happened to be in Korea, right. And then
just my niche like your whole family does music basically.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, but they really into it. That music has a
really important place in my family. And I have a
brother that dude like he does hip hop, friend hip.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Hop, friendship hop wow wow.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
So we're like kind of like, you know, helping each other.
But it's still different industries.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Completely different, but it's still hip hop.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's the good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Does he ever check up on you?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Always, always, He always like giving me his support and
me too.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean he's like song together.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, we didn't do a song together yet, but we
did a music video together.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I saw it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, okay, So you're in Korea and you're looking around
and you have all these opportunities on all these things,
and you're coming to New York, Like, what's something that
you're working on?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Like right now?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right now, I'm living life. And when I say living life,
my life is music. So I'm for the first time
I feel like I mean I did in Korea, but
here is just so different. I'm leaving my music so
I'm collaborating with a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of female artists.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I feel so grateful they're also talented, and I'm like, yeah,
this is literally the sense of hip hop and also
the reason why I wanted to start that, you know.
So it's starting to become extremely real to me and meaningful.
So I'm so happy. And it was really a plan
(12:19):
for me to come here. So the fact that I
stepped out my of my comfort zone. I'm just so
exciting and so happy and no matter what will happen,
I have no regrets.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So that's that's the that's that makes me so happy too.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't know if like this is a little bit crazier,
if it's ever gonna even gonna make it to the podcast. Well,
my manager told me before that you're actually very rooted
in your faith, and uh, you a lot of decisions
that you make is based on that. And actually me too,
So like seeing that you kind of like went out
of your comfort zone and being like, Okay, I don't
(13:04):
know what is here for me, I'm gonna trust it
and just go and it's working out for you. That
really really genuinely makes me happy. And actually that was
the thing that brought me to career too. Oh yeah,
Like I feel like something that we kind of have
in common is like we just kind of go, let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, I mean like we literally want to do it,
and we had like this opportunity to do it, and
I mean we didn't fail. So that's why that's why
everything happened. And I'm so happy because we're both still
doing music even though like this Kate pop dream whatever,
it didn't happen. All the rest we kept doing it,
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so it was not just like a silly wish. We
really wanted it. We really wanted music. So I'm so
so happy. And there is this fact that it was
in between the fact that I don't know you but me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
When I started on.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Social media during the Covey, it was literally because I
was like, Okay, I will make myself. I will try
to make myself big and have people who support me
before I put my music out. It was all about
music from the beginning. Basically, I was like, okay, let
me do this strategy. I don't know if it will work,
but if I start music, I should have people who
(14:25):
already want to support me, because if I just come
out of nowhere it will maybe maybe you guys would
have never you know, seen me here. So yeah, I
started on TikTok, put my music out, and then when
I debuted, I was literally fourced placed on the.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Trendings do the music. I was like, wow, crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
How the good and the bad you know makes always
good things, Like no matter what people say, no matter
what happened, as long as you're doing it, it's like
always going somewhere and that's what I love. So it
was a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And you worked hard for it too, like and when.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You really when someone really really wants something and they're
working every day, people see that and they love it.
And I feel like that's one thing that I was
so attached to when I saw your page was because
also you direct all of your own videos.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You direct all of.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Your Yes, that that is crazy. You make your own music.
Showed me your phone of like all the little demos.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That you have.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
They're like a hundred songs, all your videos, like your
music videos.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She was like, oh, like for this, for this demo,
I imagine somebody dragging me out of this Da da
da da da da. And she's like, oh, for this one,
I directed all this and it's like a really good video.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And think and all.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
This is because you went to Korea and you're like, hey,
let's see if anyone's gonna help me, and you looked
at these agencies and they're like no. And you're a
seventeen year old alone in this country, like away from
France and all these angs. You're like, you know, I
could get about right now and go back home or
I can start my TikTok or I can do this right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And that's really someone who just wants it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And it's not easy. It's not overnight. You how to
plan a long plan, and it brought you all the
way here and you're still promoting, you're still doing well.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Thank you, Like you have the exact word I think.
I you know, I speak English, but you're English. At
that time was.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And yeah, we learned Korean too during that time.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And basically what I'm just how can I say, like
understanding why now? Is that we didn't want it to
lose time Like there was the COVID, We kept going on,
there was free time, we learned in language, there was
you know, we just try to make it and that's
what I want to keep having.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But I started to think these days.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I was like, wow, back at the time when I
had my TikTok, doing my music, doing so much things,
I had something special in me. It was that I
had so much anger. I had so much like negative
how can I say, like feelings that I wanted to
take out of my body. So I was like, if
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I don't make it into music and my TikTok and
get people who can support me and I can make
them feel good and whatever I was feeling that I
will die, I will never be happy, I will never
be who I want to be. And after that, I
started to, you know, feel like more comfortable, you earn money, whatever,
(17:40):
so that anger started to like disappear. But I'm not
the same anymore. And to be honest, I want my
anger back. To be honest, I want my anger back,
Like someone here make me mad so I can go
even more like far because literally that's the thing. Like
before I was always mad. I was like, oh, even
(18:02):
I get mad like hater. I was like, okay, let
me be mad and tell them that I don't like
what they're say, let me react to me.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But I became so peaceful that I was like, you
know what, they can say whatever they want. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But no, I would get mad again. I will answer
to you again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, sometimes I'm like wow, like someone needs to break
my heart, like someone needs to wake me up, Like
what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I used to post like six videos a week. Now
I'm doing you know what I mean? Like, like some
break my heart right now?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I swear someone told me very recently, like gave
me a call like two am.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't want to like drop their name.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But also like someone went through something very similar to us,
was like our job right now as artists to really
be deep in our artistry is to protect and take
care of ourselves, if you know, like right now you're happy,
you're doing all these collaborations, and like the first thing
I thought about.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You when I saw you was like, oh, wow, there's
a cool person.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
If I saw you, I felt anger.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I saw you, I felt like, oh, this person just
like here to like climb like this person just like
like only think about themselves in their future.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't think we would have connected as much.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, you know, And it's like your best work comes
from when you're in a place of peace and abundance.
And sometimes it's like, oh, hey, if the best thing
for me to do right now is just be happy
and take care of myself as an artist, like that's
what's important, you know, So like me too, Like I
also was like fueled by hate, like just I hate this,
I hate this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I hate this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh oh you don't want to give me this? Watch this,
I'm going to start a TikTok. Oh you don't want
to Oh you don't want to invest like this in
that watch this, I'm going to learn Korean on my
own right, and then like like that's what drove me,
Like I also blew up on TikTok and I gained
like a million followers under a year, crazy just because
I was like also angry every day. I was like
like I'll be I'll be like like eight am and
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wake up.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
In my heart, we literally became I mean, it's a
good crazy. Wasn't that crazy that we want to like
are in people? It was the crazy of like I
want to show you, yeah, my best, the best version
of myself. And that's basically like this anger. Like we said,
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I want to like, how can I say, like translate
it to something else that will make me feel the
same anger without that anger.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's so weird to say, but you know.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What I mean absolutely understand.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So yeah, I'm find from.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Something like it's like like when you're when you're feeling disappointment,
like especially during that time, it's like, oh, hey, I
didn't get accepted in to this or like they said something,
they assume something about my character, and it's like when
you're sad. Sadness is like in action. You kind of
sit there and you're like, oh, you're like you're sad,
you know, and you're depressing and going through your life.
But it's like if you're angry that the emotion of
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anger causes people to do things, you know and like
and you you knew deep down.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You're like I need to do Yeah, I need to work,
and you worked.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You get it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Like every single time you tell me something, I'm like, Wow,
that's me for real.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We twins.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I swear with twins, literally like wow, there's so many similarities.
And to be honest, in twenty three years, I never
met someone like you.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Really and that's crazy because you're a part of like
the people I met here and I literally don't want
to lose you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I hope like we'll be still around for a long time.
Like I want to invite him to my wedding, you know,
I want to dance together to.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You guys make me feel just so like comfortable, you know,
like I have no hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm still peaceful while being here, and that's something I.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Didn't feel since a long long time, you know, like
after so many things happened in my life.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was like, you know what, I don't want no
new friends. I don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
To I mean this helped me to like have my
peace right now.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But it was a really dark time.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I was just like I just ended one of the
Korean hip hop shows. I was feeling like in depression
and like all friends just betray and whatever I was feeling.
I had a lot of hard feelings, but it was
not like before when those hard feelings like make me
do good things. It was just making me afraid of
doing anything, and it was horrible. And at that time,
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I was like, Okay, I don't want to know new people.
And I finally find my peace. Maybe I would say,
like three months ago I found it like again, and
now I'm just like wow. So it was that feeling
that I had before just being with people, and I
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feel I feel I don't feel like I forced myself
to tell there's just like natural alchemy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Alchemy, is that right, Chemistry?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, chemistry, chemistry. I'm just so happy, you know, And
it was there was a long time I didn't say
that like and I meant it.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm initially just happy.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'm just like I don't need to be the most
famous to reaches or whatever. I'm just happy to be comfortable,
not feel like I'm not. I was not meant to
be here, you know. I'm just so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So how long did that like period last where you're like, oh,
like I don't really want to do anything or likes.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Oh, so from October last year, no July last year
to March this year. So what happened between July and March?
I was alone in my house struggling. When I say
struggling is not just struggling mentally. Was struggling mentally, and
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because I was not making any move, I was then
struggling financially because I don't work, so how can I
get money?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Then crazy things happened. TikTok we don't pay you anymore.
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
There was a lot of things. But I was making
most of my money with TikTok okay. And then I
had like many sponsorship that I was doing at the
same time, and them too. They were like, okay, we
have to cut the budgets to that. But I was like, damn,
I have to pay my rent. I have to do this.
But I was feeling so down that I couldn't even
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do more so I was in a show. I was,
you know, just not understanding the situation. I was like, wow,
I'm in a show. I'm in this situation. It doesn't match,
Like that's so weird. And I was disappointed by myself
because I got eliminated and all those things.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It was so dark, such a dark time for me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And then I had this crush on this guy and
then he was not giving me what I wanted, you know,
so even that makes me disappointed. And then I was like,
you know what, I don't think what I'm missing is
money or.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Therapy or not.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I was literally missing love and the like the truth
in people. I felt like I was just hanging out
with bad people, like bad influences, bad vibes. So I
was like, yeah, I don't know why, but I thought
like that. It was the moment of Christmas when I
usually go back to friends and me and my family.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I was like, yeah, I think I just need true love,
people who love me.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Not for like my followers, how I look, my money whatever,
It just people who appreciate me and I can be
natural with them. And I flew to friends closer and
even more with my family, received so much love, like
you know, and I was like, yeah, now my batter
we are full. I can go back to Korea. I
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can go back and kill everything. But I needed this.
I needed this time to realize and that's why I
did this music video that I should inference any Korea
because I was like, yeah, what makes me literally happy
is people who love me for who I am and
know what I represent or my net worth, you know.
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So yeah, that's why I'm so happy in New York
because I'm literally meeting people, getting their help, getting their
attention and giving you know, having like really nice conversations,
debating about things, just being chilled in a coffee shops,
you know, not without the need of like doing more
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than that, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Being happy together.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And I haven't felt that since a long time, and
I just feelt that usually just within my family. But yeah,
I was missing this feeling. And I'm so grateful because
you guys like give it to me back, and now
I have even more than just a full battery right now,
Like to go back to Korea, I think I'm like,
(27:09):
I don't know if I or seek sportable battery now,
So like if someone want to like harm me in Korea, guys,
you're not ready because I'm not ready to let anything down,
or how can I say give up on anything?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's so amazing because it's like going through all those
things and then reapproaching Korea from a place of love
and not a place of hate, and then letting like
taking care of yourself and just letting that pour over
into your community, into your family, and now into your art.
And when you're saying like, now I really truly lived
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in my art, it's because you're taking care of yourself
and there's no distractions. Oh hey, I need to do this,
I need to do this. I'm doing this because I
want to. And now you're really chasing that. People around
you can see that. But I can see how passionate
you are about your music. I see how passionate you
are about your videos and like anything that you create,
and it's like there's so much goodness ahead of you,
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and thank you for sharing. Really I'm gonna cry me too,
but I can't. I literally have to shoot something out
of that. You know, guys, I need to how do
you say?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
How do the same? In English?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Like for the Luke serve look, so you need a
serve face.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I need to serve face.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I that that really touched me because I actually went
through and remember when you looked up my TikTok on
the coffee shop and it was like, oh bomhind crash out.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh yeah, our.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Time is a little bit months a bit of months
I was apart. But it was in November and I
had this mental health collapse because I was also doing
good on my tours. I was doing all this stuff.
I sold like my my most tickets ever Violin tour.
It was like it was like I think it's like
four thousand people in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I was like, wow, like everything is so good.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But my mental health was going crazy because I was
still like working from anger. I was still working from
like all this stuff, and I was like, Okay, I'm
so empty that I need.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
This work to fill me up, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And I was doing that for like a year, and
I kept getting disappointed and more angry and disappointed and
more angry, whether it's like stuff from like my old team,
like stuff from like fans, or like stuff from like
just like stalkers and all these things.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So I had this one big collapse where everything went down,
and then I was I went on like Instagram Live.
I was like yelling at people like all these things.
I was like like just like cursing and everything. And
then from there the hate came flooding in, and then
I also shut down, and I I was in like
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a similar place, like depressed, not knowing what to do.
I was like, usually when I'm sad, it can work,
but now it's empty, and now I have nothing supporting me.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I didn't want to make new friends.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I didn't want all this and all the friends that
I thought I had who like saw me for like
my followers saw me for like my so like and
like when all that went away, it was all gone,
all my friends left. They were like, oh, actually, like
Bomhand's a terrible person. I'm like we were friends, yeah,
you know, like we shared memories.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like now I don't have the right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And then in faith, uh, there's something called like a
baptism of fire, whereas like to become a new you,
you have to go through the fire and like burn
through all these things that aren't actually important. And it
was from November to also March. I'm so serious, my god,
And that was crazy. I was like, yo, like I
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have nothing. It seemed like I just old four thousand tickets,
but I have nothing, And I was like, okay, so
what's important to me was love, and like whether it's
love for my family or real friends or like my community,
my faith and all these things, all these were as zero,
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and therefore my art was showing that too.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
My art was also zero.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I was like saying stuff to like yeah, go viral.
I was saying stuff like you know, like other things
that wasn't true to me. So I moved back to
New York, like I prayed and moved back.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
To New York because at a time, where were you?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, so somewhere basically that there's no it's not your
comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And like all every everything I got in LA was
because of my influence, so it was like once that
was gone, everything's gone. So I was like, okay, I
want to move back home. And then I was surrounded
by my family. I was like, wait, they don't care, yeah,
and they know, they know my favorite food, they know
my favorite color, you know. And then like I have
friends from like eight years ago, like yo, like good this,
(32:00):
I remember when you moved away from Korea to like
pursue this dream. And I'm like I did have that
dream and I went to like my old church and
they're like, oh, like then we build the community and
I'm like helping the kids and I'm like this is
what I yes, I'm you know, and then so beautiful
the art came back and I was like, wait, I
have my spark, Wait I feel full. And then that
(32:23):
started pouring out into other things, you know, and it's
like this person online to get like say what they
want about me, don't know me, like these people know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Me, you know, and these people are important. These people
need my attention, not yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
The one thing.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We have another thing coming, so many things. Oh my
god is so great right now. You know. It's like
like we get to work, we get to do all
these things.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I can't wait to come back to New York so we.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Can have So this has been an amazing conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
But says the K Factor, you have to ask you
who is your favorite K pop group?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You already know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
My favorite rappers in it, so it's literally, what big bang?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Who's your bias?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm just like she's like sixty, I just.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Now I'm in brassed, but I am brassed myself.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, myself. You're walking up a mountain.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, you look down, there's g dragon hanging from the cliff,
and now you have Top on the other side of
the cliff.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You have one rope. Who would you say Top.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Really fast? I mean I know that, I say you,
let's get married?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh smart? Smart?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But yeah, I just love his art. Yeah, I'd be
joking around you.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Who do you think inspires your music the most.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Instead of the music?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So that's so weird because basically when I do.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
My art, I do music.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I do hip hop basically, so I don't listen to
any hip hop artists when I'm in my creative time.
So like this, I don't uh an international like international
and yes, so like this way, I don't copy or
you know, like do anything that could be similar. So
in terms of like technique rap, nobody. But in terms
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of hustle, I have a lot of role models like
uh yea. I love the fact that she was coming
from Australia. I love Rihanna from Barbaros. All those artists
who basically made it where they basically didn't come from,
(34:55):
didn't come from. So this was so impressive to me
and I was like, yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I want to like make it that way.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
So a lot of artists, I most of the time,
two or three times a week I go and how
can I say, educate myself about like all these celebrities
or all these people who became success successful not only
in the music, mostly in the music though. And I
(35:24):
learned about this story because I don't think you I mean,
it might happen, and it surely happened, but I don't
think everyone was just meant.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
To be famous.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
No, they literally had to go through a lot of
things to become who they are, and all these hustle
I just want to like sometimes conform myself that, hey, mood,
this is normal. You not everything is going to be perfect,
because look they also went like through this and this
and that and this and that. So sometimes you just
(35:56):
remind myself that, hey, girl, don't worry. This happened, but
they're worst. So like we say, if I can walk,
I will crawl, if I can crowl, I will do something.
But I should always find a way.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know, keep going, yes, keep going.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
And the wonderful thing about this is one day you're
going to be on that list for someone else, like
wherever you end up, it's going to be a pillar
for the next generation, like like Rihanna, like you said, Gazilia,
like all these people like when they were going, they're
just like no, they're thinking about their journey at the
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moment and they happen to touch someone from France exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So there's going to be some kid in like Zimbabwe.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, not even just when people are like, oh, you
gave me the envy to go to Koream already, what like, Wow,
when will.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I open my tour? I have to say to our
organization I don't know about. I'm a cute like guys.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I will make you guys, discover career, buy myself, we
me so you can get the full experience. But yeah,
it just makes me feel so happy because I'm like, Wow,
I'm doing something useful to others and that was what
I was aiming for.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
So that's the honor for me. If I could inspire
you for anything.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, all right, thank you, thank you for conversation. I
think it's been an amazing episode. Here's another reminder that
you can listen to this podcast on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
See you guys tweeks
Hello everybody, and welcome back to The K Factor Everything
k Pop, hosted by Bomhan. I'm your host, Bomhan, and
(00:20):
today we have a very very special guest. Before that,
just a little bit reminder. You can get this podcast
on iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Today, like I said, we were.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Joined by Moon, a global rising artist living in Korea
and visiting here in New York for fashion week.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, for fashion week eleven days.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, do you want the you walked to Alexander Wang show.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh yeah, it was so nice.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
It was my freak's experience in a fashion week, So yeah,
it was a special day.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Welcome to New York.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I love it. That's so nice. Like there's so everything
is new to me.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So I'm having a really great time and especially the
people everywhere so nice.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Until now. I mean, I hope we will stay like that.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But yeah, I met incredible people and yeah, I'm having
a really good time.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And you came here from Korea, right, okay. And I
was like reading up on like some stuff and like
we actually chatted a little bit on Tuesday a couple
of days before this, and I was like, oh my gosh,
we have so much stuff in common. So I want
to just kind of like introduce your story to like
the audience if possible.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So you're living in Korea right now, and how long
have you been there for?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
So now, it's been basically six years, but officially two
years because before so, I went in Korea for the
first time in twenty nineteen and I was going back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know, like you don't have visa. It's kind of hard.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
So you can stay like three months because I was
born and raised in Friends so it was really cool
and I loved it, but I had to find a
way to get a visa and just stay there because
with that visa in Korea, you can't do anything as
you can't get you can't like pay you rent, you
can't have a number, you can't you can't deliver food at.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Games.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I try to try to go to a PC bomb
and you're like, you're a citizen, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Ye I just want to play some legal legends.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, so you basically lose all the sparks that Korea has.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I was like, no, me too, I want that
full experience.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So it's a Korea from France, Yeah, from France. And France.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So I was born and raised in France, Paris, Paris, Yeah,
and the suburb.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And you love New York, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Actually like the literally the closest place I found in
New York because I grew up here. All the closest
places I found was Paris and Korea really and mix
of it or just like countries, like people have like there,
like things that are similar, you know, so like for
you to like come here and yeah, I love it,
like it makes me like feel good, I.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Really like literally, And I think the same thing with
you about Korea and France is like the architecture it
reminds me here when I'm in Korea, high buildings, it's
really inspired by America. And in terms of the vibe,
like trass, even the narrow street is really so rad French.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know this one you know around?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yes, I always whenever I talk about Paris, I'm like, wow,
Paris is just like a super big soho have you
been to Flushing yet? Okay, it's like a Chinatown Korea.
When I went to Korea, I was like, it was
just like a big flushing crazy I need all that.
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And you moved to Korea to like pursue music.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So we went to Korea during the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, what age I was en? I was eighteen eighteen,
I was seventeen, you're seventeen.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, and we two thousand and one, so I was
seventeen two.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I was seventeen two, and then I moved and then
my birthday passed, and then I went from seventeen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Years old to nineteen years old.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I'm finally because of the.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Korean legal aged I was like, yo, I never experienced
being eighteen.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh I went from seventeen to like now, yeah, directly.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So then I mean, I don't know if I can
ask that, but you've been to clubs or you tried
could Yeah, okay, caper idol.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Life, I've I've been.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I've been going to like PR training recently and then
like they like went through all my stuff and they're like, wow,
You're like not good at this. No way, I just
be saying like whatever and just like being myself.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But anyway, yeah, no clubs. I have not gone to
any clubs.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Never even until now. No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But I did live in home day. Oh yeah, I
wasn't home day.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So that's the thing. Literally when you're living home day
time the time for.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh my gosh, it was.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It was crazy because we used to train from like
nine pm all the way until like six am, and
I mean nine a m.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Until like six am.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right, I'll be coming home from like training, I'm like
super tired. I'm like limping home. And then like next
to me, it's like the people who are like at
the home day clubs and they're also limping home because
they're drunk. So it's just the two of us, like
we're both like drunk. You know.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
But you guys had the same goal but not the
same rules or they were like breaking.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Rules the oh not like my not like my band
members in the street, people in the street. Like we
just looked the same because we're both like tired.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, crazy, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And after that you told me that, yeah, we were
living in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The same neighborhood afterwards, because I moved from home day to.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh my gosh, Yo is like a zombieing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, it's hard to admit, but it's kind of true.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, Like every because then people from like China, Japan
and like even Korea. Yeah, they they all go to
this like like area for plastic surgery. Poenis Yeah, yeah,
and there's like like the biggest plastic surgery capital of
the world.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And everyone has like bandages around their face.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You go to the coffee shop, You're like, yeah, coffee shop,
the elevator of my apartment, we're just like all bandaged up.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I was like, that's crazy because at the same time,
you know, I'm like, Okay, some people would do surgery
because they feel like insecure.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm like, damn, you go outside with.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
The feel good what are you secure about?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Like there's no there's no reason.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now casual like you just like go in and like
you can buy like a shirt like like like thirty dollars, yeah,
or you can go and you buy new lips for
thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's like to say that, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So I was like when I was like living there,
like plastic surgery is like super like normalized.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Indeed, like your I don't know if I can ask that,
but it was okay, your agency or label back at
the time.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
They did I tell you, oh you should do oh
yeah all the time?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Really yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They I used to get like they used to like
do like nos for me. They used to do like
jaw fillers and all these things. It was just like
super normal.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And how did you feel, Like did he change a
lot of your face?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, it's all like temporary, you know, but then like,
oh my god, it felt so weird the first time
because I got I got a jaw filler, and then
I was like I couldn't bite food like you know,
like the protein bars. I couldn't eat protein bars and like.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Have done anything?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
No, no, I mean me, I didn't have like a
Korean agency or labels.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No one's telling me nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And the mindset is a little bit different too, like
I mean, like Frances very like natural beauty.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But at the same time, it's more like these two
is like a yes and no.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Because I was like, oh, because it's hip hop, we
don't really care about the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But I think a lot of people who do hip
hop they also do some like job on them, Like you.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Know, you could work at like a coffee shop and
kept working.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But yeah, I mean that's a good thing in Korea
because like the looks are so important.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Right, So why did you move to Korea?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So I just Korea because.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Like I said, I have a really big family and
I'm the middle child.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Everyone loves music, and.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
They were all like, okay, get your thing because they
had already their favorite genres. And the only genre that
I didn't pay attention to when I was eleven years
old was Asian music, Asian hip hop, Asian pop, Asian whatever.
So I started to get into it because basically I
discovered Yeah. That's also that I discovered a channel on
(09:03):
TV that they were putting like K pop and JPOB
and every time I had like a big crush on
those rappers.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Wow, I was always crushing who was it.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Big Bank Top, oh, Big Beanjee Dragon, Okay twenty one here,
always rappers and always from the same label also, and
I was like, okay, I want to go to y G.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
I want to go there. I want to do my
music there.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And yeah, I ended up going to Korea and I
couldn't do the audition because you know what, guys, they
said I was already too old seventeen and I was
too old for ku imagine that's crazy. The only like
label who let me do the audition was JHYEP, but
they were not feitling to my idea of like hip
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hop because most of the time it was YG doing
the really hip hop groups.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
So I was like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
My vibe was really what I wanted.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So I was like, you know what, At a point,
I was like, maybe K pop doesn't fit me, Let
meter just do hip hop. And then when I started
to be in this vibe and mindset, everything about music
started to come to me. Labels, producer, friends, rappers, everything
started to you know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Like, yeah, because you're like you're good at what you doing.
You show me a bit of your music.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, and like the future projects that you have coming
up later, we're gonna like react live.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It's like okay, love it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But like you're genuinely like good at what you do.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
So it's like, of course, like you just go like okay, fine,
Like I don't need this agency. I'm hip hop, Like
this is what inspired me in the first place. And
I just happened to be in Korea, right. And then
just my niche like your whole family does music basically.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
No, but they really into it. That music has a
really important place in my family. And I have a
brother that dude like he does hip hop, friend hip.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Hop, friendship hop wow wow.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
So we're like kind of like, you know, helping each other.
But it's still different industries.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Completely different, but it's still hip hop.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's the good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Does he ever check up on you?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Always, always, He always like giving me his support and
me too.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I mean he's like song together.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, we didn't do a song together yet, but we
did a music video together.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I saw it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, okay, So you're in Korea and you're looking around
and you have all these opportunities on all these things,
and you're coming to New York, Like, what's something that
you're working on?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Like right now?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right now, I'm living life. And when I say living life,
my life is music. So I'm for the first time
I feel like I mean I did in Korea, but
here is just so different. I'm leaving my music so
I'm collaborating with a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of female artists.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I feel so grateful they're also talented, and I'm like, yeah,
this is literally the sense of hip hop and also
the reason why I wanted to start that, you know.
So it's starting to become extremely real to me and meaningful.
So I'm so happy. And it was really a plan
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for me to come here. So the fact that I
stepped out my of my comfort zone. I'm just so
exciting and so happy and no matter what will happen,
I have no regrets.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So that's that's the that's that makes me so happy too.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't know if like this is a little bit crazier,
if it's ever gonna even gonna make it to the podcast. Well,
my manager told me before that you're actually very rooted
in your faith, and uh, you a lot of decisions
that you make is based on that. And actually me too,
So like seeing that you kind of like went out
of your comfort zone and being like, Okay, I don't
(13:04):
know what is here for me, I'm gonna trust it
and just go and it's working out for you. That
really really genuinely makes me happy. And actually that was
the thing that brought me to career too. Oh yeah,
Like I feel like something that we kind of have
in common is like we just kind of go, let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, I mean like we literally want to do it,
and we had like this opportunity to do it, and
I mean we didn't fail. So that's why that's why
everything happened. And I'm so happy because we're both still
doing music even though like this Kate pop dream whatever,
it didn't happen. All the rest we kept doing it,
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so it was not just like a silly wish. We
really wanted it. We really wanted music. So I'm so
so happy. And there is this fact that it was
in between the fact that I don't know you but me.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
When I started on.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Social media during the Covey, it was literally because I
was like, Okay, I will make myself. I will try
to make myself big and have people who support me
before I put my music out. It was all about
music from the beginning. Basically, I was like, okay, let
me do this strategy. I don't know if it will work,
but if I start music, I should have people who
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already want to support me, because if I just come
out of nowhere it will maybe maybe you guys would
have never you know, seen me here. So yeah, I
started on TikTok, put my music out, and then when
I debuted, I was literally fourced placed on the.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Trendings do the music. I was like, wow, crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
How the good and the bad you know makes always
good things, Like no matter what people say, no matter
what happened, as long as you're doing it, it's like
always going somewhere and that's what I love. So it
was a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And you worked hard for it too, like and when.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
You really when someone really really wants something and they're
working every day, people see that and they love it.
And I feel like that's one thing that I was
so attached to when I saw your page was because
also you direct all of your own videos.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
You direct all of.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Your Yes, that that is crazy. You make your own music.
Showed me your phone of like all the little demos.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
That you have.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
They're like a hundred songs, all your videos, like your
music videos.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She was like, oh, like for this, for this demo,
I imagine somebody dragging me out of this Da da
da da da da. And she's like, oh, for this one,
I directed all this and it's like a really good video.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And think and all.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
This is because you went to Korea and you're like, hey,
let's see if anyone's gonna help me, and you looked
at these agencies and they're like no. And you're a
seventeen year old alone in this country, like away from
France and all these angs. You're like, you know, I
could get about right now and go back home or
I can start my TikTok or I can do this right.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And that's really someone who just wants it.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And it's not easy. It's not overnight. You how to
plan a long plan, and it brought you all the
way here and you're still promoting, you're still doing well.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Thank you, Like you have the exact word I think.
I you know, I speak English, but you're English. At
that time was.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
And yeah, we learned Korean too during that time.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And basically what I'm just how can I say, like
understanding why now? Is that we didn't want it to
lose time Like there was the COVID, We kept going on,
there was free time, we learned in language, there was
you know, we just try to make it and that's
what I want to keep having.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But I started to think these days.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I was like, wow, back at the time when I
had my TikTok, doing my music, doing so much things,
I had something special in me. It was that I
had so much anger. I had so much like negative
how can I say, like feelings that I wanted to
take out of my body. So I was like, if
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I don't make it into music and my TikTok and
get people who can support me and I can make
them feel good and whatever I was feeling that I
will die, I will never be happy, I will never
be who I want to be. And after that, I
started to, you know, feel like more comfortable, you earn money, whatever,
(17:40):
so that anger started to like disappear. But I'm not
the same anymore. And to be honest, I want my
anger back. To be honest, I want my anger back,
Like someone here make me mad so I can go
even more like far because literally that's the thing. Like
before I was always mad. I was like, oh, even
(18:02):
I get mad like hater. I was like, okay, let
me be mad and tell them that I don't like
what they're say, let me react to me.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But I became so peaceful that I was like, you
know what, they can say whatever they want. I'm good.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
But no, I would get mad again. I will answer
to you again.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, sometimes I'm like wow, like someone needs to break
my heart, like someone needs to wake me up, Like
what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I used to post like six videos a week. Now
I'm doing you know what I mean? Like, like some
break my heart right now?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I swear someone told me very recently, like gave
me a call like two am.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't want to like drop their name.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
But also like someone went through something very similar to us,
was like our job right now as artists to really
be deep in our artistry is to protect and take
care of ourselves, if you know, like right now you're happy,
you're doing all these collaborations, and like the first thing
I thought about.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You when I saw you was like, oh, wow, there's
a cool person.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
If I saw you, I felt anger.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I saw you, I felt like, oh, this person just
like here to like climb like this person just like
like only think about themselves in their future.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't think we would have connected as much.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, you know, And it's like your best work comes
from when you're in a place of peace and abundance.
And sometimes it's like, oh, hey, if the best thing
for me to do right now is just be happy
and take care of myself as an artist, like that's
what's important, you know, So like me too, Like I
also was like fueled by hate, like just I hate this,
I hate this.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I hate this.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh oh you don't want to give me this? Watch this,
I'm going to start a TikTok. Oh you don't want
to Oh you don't want to invest like this in
that watch this, I'm going to learn Korean on my
own right, and then like like that's what drove me,
Like I also blew up on TikTok and I gained
like a million followers under a year, crazy just because
I was like also angry every day. I was like
like I'll be I'll be like like eight am and
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wake up.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
In my heart, we literally became I mean, it's a
good crazy. Wasn't that crazy that we want to like
are in people? It was the crazy of like I
want to show you, yeah, my best, the best version
of myself. And that's basically like this anger. Like we said,
(20:13):
I want to like, how can I say, like translate
it to something else that will make me feel the
same anger without that anger.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's so weird to say, but you know.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
What I mean absolutely understand.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So yeah, I'm find from.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Something like it's like like when you're when you're feeling disappointment,
like especially during that time, it's like, oh, hey, I
didn't get accepted in to this or like they said something,
they assume something about my character, and it's like when
you're sad. Sadness is like in action. You kind of
sit there and you're like, oh, you're like you're sad,
you know, and you're depressing and going through your life.
But it's like if you're angry that the emotion of
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anger causes people to do things, you know and like
and you you knew deep down.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You're like I need to do Yeah, I need to work,
and you worked.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You get it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Like every single time you tell me something, I'm like, Wow,
that's me for real.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We twins.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I swear with twins, literally like wow, there's so many similarities.
And to be honest, in twenty three years, I never
met someone like you.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Really and that's crazy because you're a part of like
the people I met here and I literally don't want
to lose you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I hope like we'll be still around for a long time.
Like I want to invite him to my wedding, you know,
I want to dance together to.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
You guys make me feel just so like comfortable, you know,
like I have no hard feelings.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm still peaceful while being here, and that's something I.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Didn't feel since a long long time, you know, like
after so many things happened in my life.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I was like, you know what, I don't want no
new friends. I don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
To I mean this helped me to like have my
peace right now.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
But it was a really dark time.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I was just like I just ended one of the
Korean hip hop shows. I was feeling like in depression
and like all friends just betray and whatever I was feeling.
I had a lot of hard feelings, but it was
not like before when those hard feelings like make me
do good things. It was just making me afraid of
doing anything, and it was horrible. And at that time,
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I was like, Okay, I don't want to know new people.
And I finally find my peace. Maybe I would say,
like three months ago I found it like again, and
now I'm just like wow. So it was that feeling
that I had before just being with people, and I
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feel I feel I don't feel like I forced myself
to tell there's just like natural alchemy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Alchemy, is that right, Chemistry?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, chemistry, chemistry. I'm just so happy, you know, And
it was there was a long time I didn't say
that like and I meant it.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I'm initially just happy.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'm just like I don't need to be the most
famous to reaches or whatever. I'm just happy to be comfortable,
not feel like I'm not. I was not meant to
be here, you know. I'm just so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So how long did that like period last where you're like, oh,
like I don't really want to do anything or likes.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Oh, so from October last year, no July last year
to March this year. So what happened between July and March?
I was alone in my house struggling. When I say
struggling is not just struggling mentally. Was struggling mentally, and
(24:01):
because I was not making any move, I was then
struggling financially because I don't work, so how can I
get money?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Then crazy things happened. TikTok we don't pay you anymore.
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
There was a lot of things. But I was making
most of my money with TikTok okay. And then I
had like many sponsorship that I was doing at the
same time, and them too. They were like, okay, we
have to cut the budgets to that. But I was like, damn,
I have to pay my rent. I have to do this.
But I was feeling so down that I couldn't even
(24:33):
do more so I was in a show. I was,
you know, just not understanding the situation. I was like, wow,
I'm in a show. I'm in this situation. It doesn't match,
Like that's so weird. And I was disappointed by myself
because I got eliminated and all those things.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It was so dark, such a dark time for me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And then I had this crush on this guy and
then he was not giving me what I wanted, you know,
so even that makes me disappointed. And then I was like,
you know what, I don't think what I'm missing is
money or.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Therapy or not.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I was literally missing love and the like the truth
in people. I felt like I was just hanging out
with bad people, like bad influences, bad vibes. So I
was like, yeah, I don't know why, but I thought
like that. It was the moment of Christmas when I
usually go back to friends and me and my family.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I was like, yeah, I think I just need true love,
people who love me.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Not for like my followers, how I look, my money whatever,
It just people who appreciate me and I can be
natural with them. And I flew to friends closer and
even more with my family, received so much love, like
you know, and I was like, yeah, now my batter
we are full. I can go back to Korea. I
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can go back and kill everything. But I needed this.
I needed this time to realize and that's why I
did this music video that I should inference any Korea
because I was like, yeah, what makes me literally happy
is people who love me for who I am and
know what I represent or my net worth, you know.
(26:23):
So yeah, that's why I'm so happy in New York
because I'm literally meeting people, getting their help, getting their
attention and giving you know, having like really nice conversations,
debating about things, just being chilled in a coffee shops,
you know, not without the need of like doing more
(26:46):
than that, just just.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Being happy together.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And I haven't felt that since a long time, and
I just feelt that usually just within my family. But yeah,
I was missing this feeling. And I'm so grateful because
you guys like give it to me back, and now
I have even more than just a full battery right now,
Like to go back to Korea, I think I'm like,
(27:09):
I don't know if I or seek sportable battery now,
So like if someone want to like harm me in Korea, guys,
you're not ready because I'm not ready to let anything down,
or how can I say give up on anything?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's so amazing because it's like going through all those
things and then reapproaching Korea from a place of love
and not a place of hate, and then letting like
taking care of yourself and just letting that pour over
into your community, into your family, and now into your art.
And when you're saying like, now I really truly lived
(27:48):
in my art, it's because you're taking care of yourself
and there's no distractions. Oh hey, I need to do this,
I need to do this. I'm doing this because I
want to. And now you're really chasing that. People around
you can see that. But I can see how passionate
you are about your music. I see how passionate you
are about your videos and like anything that you create,
and it's like there's so much goodness ahead of you,
(28:09):
and thank you for sharing. Really I'm gonna cry me too,
but I can't. I literally have to shoot something out
of that. You know, guys, I need to how do
you say?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
How do the same? In English?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Like for the Luke serve look, so you need a
serve face.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I need to serve face.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
I that that really touched me because I actually went
through and remember when you looked up my TikTok on
the coffee shop and it was like, oh bomhind crash out.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh yeah, our.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Time is a little bit months a bit of months
I was apart. But it was in November and I
had this mental health collapse because I was also doing
good on my tours. I was doing all this stuff.
I sold like my my most tickets ever Violin tour.
It was like it was like I think it's like
four thousand people in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I was like, wow, like everything is so good.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But my mental health was going crazy because I was
still like working from anger. I was still working from
like all this stuff, and I was like, Okay, I'm
so empty that I need.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
This work to fill me up, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And I was doing that for like a year, and
I kept getting disappointed and more angry and disappointed and
more angry, whether it's like stuff from like my old team,
like stuff from like fans, or like stuff from like
just like stalkers and all these things.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
So I had this one big collapse where everything went down,
and then I was I went on like Instagram Live.
I was like yelling at people like all these things.
I was like like just like cursing and everything. And
then from there the hate came flooding in, and then
I also shut down, and I I was in like
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a similar place, like depressed, not knowing what to do.
I was like, usually when I'm sad, it can work,
but now it's empty, and now I have nothing supporting me.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I didn't want to make new friends.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I didn't want all this and all the friends that
I thought I had who like saw me for like
my followers saw me for like my so like and
like when all that went away, it was all gone,
all my friends left. They were like, oh, actually, like
Bomhand's a terrible person. I'm like we were friends, yeah,
you know, like we shared memories.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like now I don't have the right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
And then in faith, uh, there's something called like a
baptism of fire, whereas like to become a new you,
you have to go through the fire and like burn
through all these things that aren't actually important. And it
was from November to also March. I'm so serious, my god,
And that was crazy. I was like, yo, like I
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have nothing. It seemed like I just old four thousand tickets,
but I have nothing, And I was like, okay, so
what's important to me was love, and like whether it's
love for my family or real friends or like my community,
my faith and all these things, all these were as zero,
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and therefore my art was showing that too.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
My art was also zero.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I was like saying stuff to like yeah, go viral.
I was saying stuff like you know, like other things
that wasn't true to me. So I moved back to
New York, like I prayed and moved back.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
To New York because at a time, where were you?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Yeah, so somewhere basically that there's no it's not your
comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And like all every everything I got in LA was
because of my influence, so it was like once that
was gone, everything's gone. So I was like, okay, I
want to move back home. And then I was surrounded
by my family. I was like, wait, they don't care, yeah,
and they know, they know my favorite food, they know
my favorite color, you know. And then like I have
friends from like eight years ago, like yo, like good this,
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I remember when you moved away from Korea to like
pursue this dream. And I'm like I did have that
dream and I went to like my old church and
they're like, oh, like then we build the community and
I'm like helping the kids and I'm like this is
what I yes, I'm you know, and then so beautiful
the art came back and I was like, wait, I
have my spark, Wait I feel full. And then that
(32:23):
started pouring out into other things, you know, and it's
like this person online to get like say what they
want about me, don't know me, like these people know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Me, you know, and these people are important. These people
need my attention, not yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
The one thing.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We have another thing coming, so many things. Oh my
god is so great right now. You know. It's like
like we get to work, we get to do all
these things.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I can't wait to come back to New York so we.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Can have So this has been an amazing conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
But says the K Factor, you have to ask you
who is your favorite K pop group?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
You already know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
My favorite rappers in it, so it's literally, what big bang?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Who's your bias?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm just like she's like sixty, I just.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Now I'm in brassed, but I am brassed myself.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay, myself. You're walking up a mountain.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, you look down, there's g dragon hanging from the cliff,
and now you have Top on the other side of
the cliff.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
You have one rope. Who would you say Top.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Really fast? I mean I know that, I say you,
let's get married?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh smart? Smart?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But yeah, I just love his art. Yeah, I'd be
joking around you.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Who do you think inspires your music the most.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Instead of the music?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
So that's so weird because basically when I do.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
My art, I do music.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
I do hip hop basically, so I don't listen to
any hip hop artists when I'm in my creative time.
So like this, I don't uh an international like international
and yes, so like this way, I don't copy or
you know, like do anything that could be similar. So
in terms of like technique rap, nobody. But in terms
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of hustle, I have a lot of role models like
uh yea. I love the fact that she was coming
from Australia. I love Rihanna from Barbaros. All those artists
who basically made it where they basically didn't come from,
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didn't come from. So this was so impressive to me
and I was like, yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I want to like make it that way.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
So a lot of artists, I most of the time,
two or three times a week I go and how
can I say, educate myself about like all these celebrities
or all these people who became success successful not only
in the music, mostly in the music though. And I
(35:24):
learned about this story because I don't think you I mean,
it might happen, and it surely happened, but I don't
think everyone was just meant.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
To be famous.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
No, they literally had to go through a lot of
things to become who they are, and all these hustle
I just want to like sometimes conform myself that, hey, mood,
this is normal. You not everything is going to be perfect,
because look they also went like through this and this
and that and this and that. So sometimes you just
(35:56):
remind myself that, hey, girl, don't worry. This happened, but
they're worst. So like we say, if I can walk,
I will crawl, if I can crowl, I will do something.
But I should always find a way.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know, keep going, yes, keep going.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
And the wonderful thing about this is one day you're
going to be on that list for someone else, like
wherever you end up, it's going to be a pillar
for the next generation, like like Rihanna, like you said, Gazilia,
like all these people like when they were going, they're
just like no, they're thinking about their journey at the
(36:32):
moment and they happen to touch someone from France exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So there's going to be some kid in like Zimbabwe.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, not even just when people are like, oh, you
gave me the envy to go to Koream already, what like, Wow,
when will.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I open my tour? I have to say to our
organization I don't know about. I'm a cute like guys.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I will make you guys, discover career, buy myself, we
me so you can get the full experience. But yeah,
it just makes me feel so happy because I'm like, Wow,
I'm doing something useful to others and that was what
I was aiming for.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
So that's the honor for me. If I could inspire
you for anything.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, all right, thank you, thank you for conversation. I
think it's been an amazing episode. Here's another reminder that
you can listen to this podcast on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
See you guys tweeks
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