August 19, 2025 • 33 mins
Live podcast show from the K-Pop minicon Atlanta we’re Beomhan will interview guest performer R&B Korean singer HOHYUN (Hit Song Sunset Boulevard) & Anthony former K-pop trainee and K-Pop fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Cake Factor Podcast
Everything Kate Pop. I am your host Bomhon and today
(00:21):
you're at the Gas South Arena.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We sign a wonderful performance doing fan songs, fan meetings,
and just a little bit of context for the radio listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We have all wonderful singers here today. We have the guests.
Holy on, can you introduce yourself? Have you guys? Hear
a little bit of background noise? That's you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, we got a live audience here for the first
time here on.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
iHeartMedia k Factor and we have my very dear friend.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We did an episode together, Anthony.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, tell the audience a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
My name is Anthony. I'm a I'm a dance teacher
at Katie Studios and Period Georgia. Right, yeah, yeah, we
danced together.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Oh yeah, what is the case stand for?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm not the boss of the dance studio. It was like,
you know, did they say K pop as can be
one the other one? I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I don't remember what is a K standby in k
pop Korea? Oh yeah, but the owner is not Korean.
I'm the Korean guy.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh oh yeah, oh god, I would pull my stocks.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right, Well, today we're just gonna be talking about
our performance, talking about experience, and we're gonna talk to
some of the fans here today Big be as Lighters
again just for a little bit of contact. There's also
like a thunderstorm going on, and everybody who's here staying
is very kind to be here to support us, and
(01:52):
so thank you guys very much.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And you guys make this podcast possible.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And we wanted to kind of bounce off a little
bit with our guests.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
WHOA Okay, besides your name, old God, what else?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I like? Spider Man?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, we were talking about I think before you went
on stage. Your manager came up to me and I
was like, Yo, this guy is so much ADHD medication
right now?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Oh yeah yeah, I was recently diagnosed with it last year.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
So I've been on medication for like a year. It's
been it's been a lot better. Like, Okay, are you
on medication?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
No, I'm just I'm just free. I'm just free falling
raw dog brad dogging me, I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
With me for most of my life, dude, Like, honestly,
homework was the hardest to do.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Was that hard for you too?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I didn't do homework at all. I had the average
in school.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Like I I was one of those films that didn't
care about high school.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
But my parents knew that. I mean, before music, I
was really really too film.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Okay, and I was like really good at that, and
they knew that.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I was like dedicated, and they're like, if he tried
to get good grades, he could, but he's really good
at this one thing and he cares about that, and
you know that's a symptom of ADHD, like your hyperfixation. Right, So,
but I mean I did well enough just to pass by.
I think doing the bare minimum was like my motto
in school and college. I honestly didn't care about grades
(03:30):
because I knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
So I was like this, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And I think that took you so far.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
It really did.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
I would have wasted so much time doing homework instead
of working on my craft.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, and your craft is beautiful when you were performing
those amazing vocals, amazing everything.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And are you a songwriter too?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yes, I produce and write my own stuff. Sometimes I
wouldn't produce her friends, just like when I wanted to
sound but usually like it's just in my bedroom, like.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
There's no studio or nothing, like I don't have a space.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I just microphone in my bedroom and saying equipment that
I bought when I first started to like I was eighteen,
I think I went to Guitar Center and bought like
a mic and an interface.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
It was it was actually a road on T one,
pretty good story. I went it out.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
What the heck?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I was like, I'm gonna go in like all in
right away because I and so I just bought that.
And then I still YouTube to say like every song
to this day is still recorded on my mic.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Like wow, so I really I really like got my
word out of it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, and it's a song that you performed that I recognized.
That's in like three of my playlist was Sunset Bullet
YEAES and I also recorded that.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
On the same mic, Like it's all the same equipment,
Like no one can use the excuse like oh I
don't have good equipment. I literally just just buy something
and you can make it work. How many monthly listeners
you have a lot less than I did last year.
I think I think right now it's like one it's
been going up a little bit because of the new
song one forty something.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But like thousand, Yeah, I got everyone's best spot My
Spotify looks like, to be honest, I was.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
There at some point, but I mean, like when Sunset
Blovar hits peak, I think I hit the max of
like five hundred K, and I was like super proud
of that. I think for at least four years of
my career it was still under one hundred thousands. Like
for a majority of my music career it was under
one hundred k, which is like it was my goal
to reach one hundred k, and now I'm like there
and it's like we're chilling.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But I honestly don't think anyone should.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Like use the monthly listeners as their words because some
people were really really talented and they just don't have
the listeners yet. Like my friend, her name is Sarah
Kan She's a really good friend of mine, and we
first met when we were like just starting out. She
had like under one thousand on everything, but I was like,
she's so good, she's gonna go so far, and now
she's I mean, she had like over a million and stuff.
(05:47):
But I recognized their talent, like right away. She thought
my playoff was stell for real.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Now up thet.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Where are you guys from?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, she from like Texas, but she lives in New
York right now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Okay, okay, where where are you from?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I am? I also used to live in Houston, but
I moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So your movie is New York. Yes, we gotta, we
gotta go out to Nobiyani. We got we got to
take thirty one, all these.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Beautiful career I've been Take Street once.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
K Street. Yeah, it's one straight, that's it? Like la
Oh no, yes, I've been there once for a Broadway audition.
Oh it was so small. Oh my gosh, which one?
There's multiple? No, which which Broadway?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was like that K popsicle or something.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It was the K Pop Broadway show.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
What's funny?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Kevin Wu wasn't that? Oh wait, Kevin Wait, give mecond wait.
Is this the same Kevin? Oh my god, I just realized, yeah,
it's the same Kevin Wait. I just wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
just hav an epiphany?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Wait? I think I met him at the audition thing?
You met him? Wait? I'm pretty sure, but no, but
I know that other guy was a lot shorter nerve mine.
I'll think I was in was under Kevin Will.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Maybe he had.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Ignore anything. I just like, I'm an shut up now off.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We also did the performance today with Kevin Will and
they crowd was electric.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
There's so much energy.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He's so good, He's so good as a professional. I turned,
I turned to my manager and I was like, yo,
we were watching him.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was like, do I saw this guy's better?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
He's got years on those He was in the actual
K pop industry, so like makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I was. I was inspiring to watch.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
An actual case. He was an actual idol.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It was actual.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I was like a real company doing real shows in Korea,
and man like, dude's got that experience.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, I have a question, where did you like place
yourself relative in that field? Like what would like you
know what I mean, Honestly, I.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Feel like I'm in a different world thinking like I
think just because I'm Korean and I have like that
kind of look, I can kind of brand myself in
the kpop space MB and that's like this, But I
feel like what I do and like the kind of
music that I make is so far from where K
pop is. But I feel like I'm really in my
own nanth I just kind of try to be as
authentic as possible, and I incorporate a lot of like
(08:16):
filmmaking into my my craft as well, So it's it's
pretty different, but I try to just be true in.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Myself pretty much.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So what you make is R and B.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, I do R and B primarily, but I kind
of experimented sometimes I do a little bit of folk
or like pop as you heard them I set. There's
a lot of different kind of sounds throughout my music,
so I kind of just like to go around. But
R and B is, like I guess, the main main
thing where I started.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, So k pop, in my opinion, takes a lot
of influence from all these genres. Yeah, like American R
and B, like American hip hop, American like neo.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Soul, like all these things. Right, what makes what you
do separate from bath?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I feel like K pop is a whole industry that's
really in Korea, and it's manufactured by those companies and
they you know, they hire and they train idols to
come up in this program, they teach up to dance.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
And when I think K pop, I.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Think choreographies really high end concepts, really high music videos
and like doing like stage performances with choreographies and of
course in Korea and usually in Korean, and so I
feel like I don't dance and I don't like I'm
the worst dance around the planet. Like I want to learn,
(09:35):
for sure, but definitely not good at it. And I
feel like K pop is is something that's separate from
me because I'm from America and I make music primarily
in English, and I embrace like Korean culture, but it's
definitely not like the main part of my prown. So
I feel like that's what separates me from k pop.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So you're saying k pop is more like the production,
the process and like all that goes into it, right,
And like for sure, like Anthony here he he went
through that whole system, right, you know, kind of like
hearing you talk about like like you starting fuyding that
mic and then just freaking going and now you are
where you are and then like it's a very different
(10:15):
beginning from what you had. Oh yeah, right, so what
was your beginning like getting into music and like all
these things.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, I definitely think in the K pop industry, like
it's like you have to like a lot of artists
I feel like has to rely on entertainment companies in
at least in Korea.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And I could be wrong with that, but I mean judging.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
From like all these big like groups start coming out,
you know, they're all signed to a label, you know,
and I feel like if you're trying to be like
a solo artist in K pop, right, it's gonna be
a lot harder. So even when I started out, I
had to sign to a label, so CG Entertainment, and
then going through all that process and then just like
(10:54):
you know, they're technically monitoring everything, you know what I
mean to like see if I'm growing, see what parts
I need to do, you know, Like it's just like
it's more artificial. Yeah, I would say that rather than
like you can just be your own solo artists and
just make something out of it, you know what I mean.
At least that's just from my experience.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
So yeah, I really think it's more like a business
and products. The goal is to make revenue at the
end of the day, and they put together these people,
they train them through the system to make sure like
the best of the best make it, and they like
monetize the voice, the dancing and the faces. It really
is like a products and people really enjoy the product,
(11:37):
and I think it's it's like it's got its own place.
I think there's some uneffical practices with any industry, for sure,
as with any entertainment field. But I still think it's
a completely different medium than someone who's pursuing their own
artist's career, because that's more of their personal expression, whereas
CAP is really just like a machine and the idols
are performance. They're they're part of the machine rather than
(11:58):
this one of like arts, I think, But I think
they're equally valid in their own way.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Was correct.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I can see this from like the perspective of
the artists, the people who like go through the system, right,
But I think to the fans, one thing that makes
K pop so special is the community that it brings, right,
the bright energy, the bright events and all these like
fan meetings and all these things, like even this like
an opportunity for you guys to come and join together
(12:26):
and like go to a concert. You know, Like to us,
it's like, oh my gosh, it's like all this it's
just it freaking sticks because we had to go through it,
you know, but like all this possible also because of
you guys and the fans is such a big part
of K pop too.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Can I ask one of you guys what do you
guys think about K pop?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Who would like to volunteer?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm gonna volunteer.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Oh yeah, okay, go ahead, all right, okay, you can
come on here, come up, go okay here a yeah, yeah,
yeah okay, So, like what do you think about kop
and how is that like effect of your.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Life been akpop?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Man?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Not that long, maybe like two years now. I got
into it because my friend she put me on, and
I think it's like, you know, hop really like connects people,
It builds community before that, you know, like she got
into it because of her friend. I feel like it's
something that people can do together. You know. It's always
about like being together. You can't you can't be have
(13:30):
a fan base, you know without a bunch of people,
you know, and they can all come together really like.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Love what they love, you know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
M hmmmm hm, b bars that far.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Salutations to you.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh no, yeah, I don't want to go accurate.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh yeah, Actually I was in New York and I
ran into so many friends who were like gathering for
extraordinary heroes. And then there's like people who were like yeah,
shout out, and it's people who like see each other
once every six months just to gather for these concerts.
And it's such like a beautiful like communion thing, you know.
So yeah, thank you for thank you for your input.
(14:21):
I get what can you? Can you introduce yourself to
the listeners?
Speaker 8 (14:23):
I'm Caitlin Davis, nineteen from Georgia.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I was scared, you're gonna keep them my social secure?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Thank you? Thank you, take care of.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Wo Okay, where'd you get the tiger in the room?
In that dream room?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I don't know who.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gave us to us? Like like your addressing room?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, didn't you have something in your dressing room too?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yeah? I got like a building bear? What the heck
they give you like a building dressed up as spider?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah? I was like, that's so you? Yeah, who is
it this?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Where's mine? What would you? What would yours make? Where's mine?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know. Maybe iron Man or something. I don't
know iron Man.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Why what do you think Kenvin do that?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
He got a soda bro? He got a soda can plushy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I want you guys to know that when he was
talking about his experience in Korea, I've never seen himself
locked in in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
This is this is just right. Here is the ADHD squad.
This is the ADHD. Oh yeah, it's real bad. It's bad,
It's real bad. Oh yeah. That ties into my question
of as a solo artist, someone who's independent, how do
you keep yourself motivated because a lot of times, like
(15:55):
the company is always like lighting a fire under our butt, you.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Know what I mean, Like I gotta do this, this, this,
this next project. You don't really have types of thing.
But as like a solo artist, you're in charge of
your own mental health, You're in charge of your own projects,
You're in charge of your own timeline. So how do
you like navigate that to like kind of go through
and create?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Always?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
For me, I think that's one of my strengths is
that I've always just been a super self motivator.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Even before music, I was always.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Working on something, like whether it was film related, and
so when it came to music, I was just always
working on something and I kind of light my own
fire under my ass, and so I'm just like constantly
like pressure to like do something, because if I'm not creating,
I don't feel like I'm doing anything because expression and
like creating art is just kind of like my way
(16:40):
of life. So I don't even know if I could
go like a year without doing it. Honestly, how many
songs do you make a year depends anywhere from like
five to ten. It depends on how I'm feeling, or
how active I'm being, or if I'm not actively working
on an album or more just like promoting stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh wow, so you so you say each project is
like too, Yeah, like you really put a lot of
thought into each thing. Like I have friends, I'm like,
how many stngs you make like a like a week.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
They're like fifty, and then it's.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Just like it's it's their way of expressing themselves too.
But then like it's not as much thought, you know.
Would you say, like how would you describe your music?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think my music would just be like an unfiltered
version of what goes on in my head because I
think it manifests as a result of what I'm not
able to say usually, so like what I couldn't express
like in high school or just the people in general.
The stuff they can't really talk about just in a
normal group setting because it wouldet award or something I
would usually just express through my music, like the pain
(17:40):
and the hurt. It would just kind of come naturally
through the music. And I think a lot of people
they kind of take their music more as like of
a skill set where they like they put in their hours,
like they make fifty songs a week or whatever, And
I think that's that works with a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
But for me, I can't physically do that. I don't
have the motivation to do that.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
But whenever I'm feeling inspired or I feel like a
certain need to release something, I just end up writing
and then I just take that song up go with
And a lot of people are like, don't don't like
wait for inspiration, But for me, it happens enough where
it's like I have a consistent basis in writing where
I don't need to just like sit down and write
fifty songs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
One thing that like my main thing.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Is dance and learning from like a bunch of dance
schools in New York. They really prioritize storytelling, they really
prioritize self expression, and the people have gone as far
as to tell me. If you're dancing and you don't
have anything to say, don't dance.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And then I was like, what, I like, is it
that deep? And then like it's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It really is, because when you're expressing yourself, you're doing
these arts, you're saying something and if you're saying nothing,
it's just.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Noise, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And then I really love that you kind of put
that value onto your art. And I think a lot
of artists too, they have this innate.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Want to be heard right and innate one to be understood.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And I think with your situation, like just that drive
and that that all that that let's go get it
mindset where like oh oh get my mic and I'm
still using it, you know, and let's make this music.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I's learned all these things.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think it really embodies the purest form of that.
So like, that's freaking.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Awesome, dude, think you know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And and and when I hear your music, I really
resonate with that.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I really literally I showed you I had yourself on
my playlist.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, So keep going? Is there? Okay?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
With that being said, do you have a song that
really clicks with you in your heart right now.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I think it was one of the songs I
performed called Tomorrow, that one like I wrote in a
really like bad place, like I told you, like, I
got diagnosed last year and I wrote that song right
before I went home and like god diagnosed because I
was like everything was like falling apart.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I was like super depressed.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And I wrote that song, and uh, it kind of
brought me some comfort, and I think it's bringing a
lot of other people comfort too. It's not out of
but it's definitely one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Okay, can we get a sneakfake?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Did I mean didn't you hear it earlier? Like right now?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know he said he heaper fromed it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Oh sorry, it's like it was like it was taught
to horrow halfway through my set.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh wow, okay, well thank you for sharing that. Yeah,
of course, what was the process like when you got diagnosed.
I remember like when I first came back from like
the psychiatrist for the first time, I was like, oh
that makes sense, like like all like I'm not stupid,
(20:37):
I'm just I'm carrying more weight than everybody else, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I think for me, it was like I kind of
always knew I had ADHD or something, but I didn't
really want to like go to a psychiatrists because it
wasn't I was like handling my stuff. But then when
it's like really bad, I was like, okay, I need
to go see a psychiatrist. And it kind of went
like she asked me some questions and then and she
was like, Okay, it seems like have pretty bad depression
(21:02):
of anxiety.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Oh okay, I thought I.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Had ADHD, but but she's like, oh, you, well, you
might also have that too. So then she you know,
basically diagnosed me with depression anxiety on the spot, just
with the questions. But then she had like a test
for the ADHD, and she sat me in a room
with like a TV screen and it was just like
a white dot in the middle of a black screen,
and she gave me a clicker, and every time a
(21:25):
square would pop up at the top, I would have
to click, and every time a square would pop up the.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Bottom, I would not click.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So sometimes it would they would like flash the top
one a bunch, and I'd be clicking just like subconsciously,
and then like they flashed the bottom when I accidentally
click when I should have or if it's like supposed
to be not clicked for a while, and then they
have another one.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I like a focus.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
It's like a focus thing, and maybe at first I've
dialed in, but it's a twenty minutes long test for
twenty minutes and it's extremely boring, but that's the point
it gets you, like your attention.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
If you guys are cooked, I don't think any of
you guys could do it.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
The scale was like from negative ten to zero, zero
to ten, and if you were anywhere from zero to
like above, you're fine. But if you're like negative two
or below, you like have ADHD. I scored like a
negative seven, so they were like, yeah, it's like pretty
clear that you have. Like they gave me the test
results before they officially diagnosed people. But she's like, you
looked at the thing right, Yeah, She's like, so you.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Know you have it.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I'm like yeah, it's like all the way down then.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Wow, dang.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We were talking about this a little bit backstage, but
my experience with the complete flip where you went in
for like anxiety and depression and then they were like
oh yeah, also shit, and then I went in for
ADHD and then they were like, actually, this whole ADHD
thing not your biggest problem, brother, And then they took
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gave me tests for like like chronic depression and like
anxiety on these things.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
They were like, we need to handle this first.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And then I was on like a six to seven
month long treatment for like depression, and then.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like at the end of it, I was just bored,
so I left. But but like it was like the
complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So and the reason I bring this up is because
that plays a big part in my art too, And
it's like the way I create, the workflow at which
I create, and the topics that I create about and
and when you're when you're going through these things that
a lot of people don't normally relate to, and then.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And then you're kind of like place that in your.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Music, Like how do you how do you go about
like like trying to communicate these feelings that maybe someone
doesn't know about.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
It's hard for me because it just kind of I
just express it in a way that makes sense for me,
and you either get it or you don't. And I
feel like I try to convey a lot like visually too,
through like the emotion of my voice but I've never
been like the best lyric writer. But I feel like
people are able to understand what I'm feeling just through
like what I show visually through music videos or like
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the emotion in my voice. But I think it's also
for those of the people who did go through and
they do, you know, have that experience, it's better for
them because you know, they have someone out there just like, oh,
they get it, you know, and they'll understand right away
because it's not something they have to translate in their brain.
But so I think it's it's mainly honestly targeted more
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towards people.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Who understand, but for people.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Who don't have that experience, I think there's story for
them to understand and through watching or listen to it
all right, And.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This also ties back to like being in a cape
all company, because you also went through your own big
share of stuff, right, like how old were you when
you moved to Korea?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I was fourteen forty?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Way for your family all this stuff and dealing with
like isolation press, like like how did you kind of
handle all that?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Luckily a lot of my like young's are like older brothers, right,
they all like took pretty good care of me when
I was training there, and especially because theyunderstood that I
was like an international student, right, Like, I mean, they
took good care of me. They made sure like I
always was invited to like their hangouts and all that stuff,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But I mean I did.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Like live like by myself while I was there, you know,
and then I had to take like in like an
hour and a half train ride back home.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And I also at school, right, So I mean it
was just very tiring.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I didn't really have time to process a lot of
like this the stress because I already have to do
is like so much, right, And there was always something
in my mind or even if I'm in like the train,
I would always just compile my mind of something like
oh if I learned this choreography, I'm like I just
practiced inside the train, you know, Like if I'm sitting down,
I'll like be like doing a choreography or something.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So it was like my mind was just racing all
the time. But now that I look back at it now,
I would say, like do I regret it, No, not
at all. But there was moments where it was very
lonely at times, you know. But you know, my mails
the past. So I mean, it's it's all right now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Interesting things that I find about what you just said
that connects to where I am right now too. Right
is when there's a hard time, what you dope into
your art, right, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm just
gonna practice this choreography, right. And two was community, yeah
for sure. So it's community and art and then just
creation and all these things, right, And that's the exact
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thing that I'm actually chasing right now and like trying.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
To build community of people. And I'm like, forget about.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Me, like even K pop, you know, it's like who
knows what even you guys are going through right now?
And then it's like, Okay, well, I know that I
have someone to hang out with, you know, I know
I have someone to support me, you like, you have
your films who are like but don his hangouts. Yeah,
And it's like, Okay, I could be I could be
like going through this, this and this and that, but
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but Kevin Willm is in Gays South Arena.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You want to come, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And then it's like Okay, then we get to decorate
our photocard collectors do all these things and then all
this is it is healing, right, it's trumforting, and I
feel like that's one of the strengths of K pop.
So so just kind of tying that back in, you
know what I mean, any last words that you have
for our radio audience.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
That it gets betuning in. It was great to have
this conversation.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
I don't usually get to have conversations like this on
like a public platform, So thank you for providing this
platform for me.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
To speak on, but thank you for insight. That was
a lot that was deep. I was like, oh my god,
Like I was like, whoa, where are we right now?
Usually I just freaking turn on the bike and gap
for an hour.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I do that too, Like whenever do my Instagram lives,
I just like sit there and yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
When you turn on Instagram Live, I feel like I
feel like I black out. And at the end, I'm like,
I don't know what happened. I'm gonna go get some
chick full leg.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah he's kind of go with the low.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, wow, try it. I think you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Jay walk to Chick fil A, you know, yeah yeah,
and New York jaywalking is legal.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, it is it is, it's legal. They're like they're like,
we're not going to stop. People like just freaking do
I mean, I mean yeah at that point, like who cares?
This is me you work, bro, there's like too many people.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, well, thank you for your second time coming onto
the podcast, Anthony.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Is there anything you would like to tell the audience?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean, obviously thank you for like you guys tuning
in and all the people that are here. I know
it's like pretty late and we got pushed behind schedule,
but the fact that you guys still showed.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Up, like we really do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
And also that you know, I performed with the Soger Boys,
so like, you know, it's whatever you mean.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's like I just performed, you know, it's not videally
in us whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, does anyone wants to come on and say anything
to either us or the or the audience, or any
words of yeah, come on come on.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Here, Domina, I can give her my mic Okay, Hey, yeah, are.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You dressed as one of the characters from Regular.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
No, that's just your drill, just a crazy drip for
me swagged beyond my comprehension.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Is that your real hair as well, yes it is.
I just spleached my.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Wow all myself. Wait crazy the back. That's frigod talent
right there?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Wow can could you?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Could you introduce yourself, your name and everything? H right,
My name is Victoria.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
I'm twenty one years old.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I live in Atlanta, been.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Here for about a year now. I do mechanics and
also I do songwriting as well.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Hey, yeah, well the floor is yours.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Whatever you want to say to the audience, whatever you
want to say to us, anything, anything you want.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Oh lor Okay, So I'm kind of curious what is
it like to start out as a songwriter. How does
the journey go when you first start out?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I mean, for me, honestly, like, it wasn't my specialty.
Like I wasn't a musicians. Some people grow up like
singing or whatever, like they have musical talents, but me,
I was just kind of like, all right, I'm I'm
kind of interested in this. So I started learning how
to play guitar and singing. I wasn't one of those
people who sang ever, like not in the shower, not
like ever, because I was just shy. But I just
started like recording covers in my parents' house, whenever people
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were gone, and I would just write songs and they
all sucked. They were all terrible, and none of those
songs will ever come out. But it's like the practice
of like making stuff until you you feel like you're
getting somewhere, and then you just keep going until you
feel like you're at a point where you can release something,
and you just start releasing and then you just go
from there. Like, there's really not much that I have
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to think about.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I just went for So I would.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Say, if you're afraid of anything, like just don't even
worry about it, just go for it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Don't be afraid to suck. Yeah, yeah, because you're always
gonna suck. He brought a bunch of songs that were
doodoo but and didn't release it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I wrote a song that was dudu butt and then
I released it.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I mean a lot of my songs too, when I
was starting out, Like I'm not like the broudest of them,
but I leave them up there just because like it's
part of my history. So even if I listen back
and I'm like the fringing and my old like songs
that I wrote, I'm still like, all right, that's that's
where I started.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now I'm here, So wherever you are, you journey right now.
Just just be passionate about it. There's no supportant thing
to know that you want.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
To do it, so that even when you feel like
you suck and that everyone like thinks that you suck
or whatever, it doesn't matter because you want to do it.
Because whenever I was in a place where I felt
like I was just terrible, what not not fit for this,
just the passion for it because what kept me going.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And also there's like like when you're afraid to suck,
when you're afraid to like kind of like you're pushing
all these things down, like you're not afraid to be seen,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like look at your drip. You know, you're swagged out
beyond comprehension.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So it's like like part of your part of your
songwriting is part of that self expression, you know. So
it's like, just don't be afraid to be seen, don't
be afraid to be heard, and how you are in
that moment.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You deserve to be heard. You deserve to be this
because you have something to say, you know, So just
keep going.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Some of my songs actually really sucked at the beginning.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I only have two that I'm willing to release.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I wish it the best of luck when you're with
your future career, and yeah, just just be passionate about it.
Always be true to yourself and do what feels right.
I always follow your heart, honestly. But yeah, well, best
of love with the name, because that's that's like the
hardest part, honestly, like.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Coming up with your name.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Yeah, I was thinking about.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
That, but all right, you wanna all right, Well, thank
you to the live audience listeners, Thank you to everybody
tuning into on radio and this is the K Factor
everything K Pop with your host Buhon and today we
had and all wonderful beautiful love.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, all right, so you got next week By M
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Cake Factor Podcast
Everything Kate Pop. I am your host Bomhon and today
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you're at the Gas South Arena.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We sign a wonderful performance doing fan songs, fan meetings,
and just a little bit of context for the radio listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We have all wonderful singers here today. We have the guests.
Holy on, can you introduce yourself? Have you guys? Hear
a little bit of background noise? That's you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, we got a live audience here for the first
time here on.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
iHeartMedia k Factor and we have my very dear friend.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We did an episode together, Anthony.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, tell the audience a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
My name is Anthony. I'm a I'm a dance teacher
at Katie Studios and Period Georgia. Right, yeah, yeah, we
danced together.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Oh yeah, what is the case stand for?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I'm not the boss of the dance studio. It was like,
you know, did they say K pop as can be
one the other one? I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I don't remember what is a K standby in k
pop Korea? Oh yeah, but the owner is not Korean.
I'm the Korean guy.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Oh oh yeah, oh god, I would pull my stocks.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
All right, Well, today we're just gonna be talking about
our performance, talking about experience, and we're gonna talk to
some of the fans here today Big be as Lighters
again just for a little bit of contact. There's also
like a thunderstorm going on, and everybody who's here staying
is very kind to be here to support us, and
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so thank you guys very much.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And you guys make this podcast possible.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And we wanted to kind of bounce off a little
bit with our guests.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
WHOA Okay, besides your name, old God, what else?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I like? Spider Man?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, we were talking about I think before you went
on stage. Your manager came up to me and I
was like, Yo, this guy is so much ADHD medication
right now?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Oh yeah yeah, I was recently diagnosed with it last year.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
So I've been on medication for like a year. It's
been it's been a lot better. Like, Okay, are you
on medication?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
No, I'm just I'm just free. I'm just free falling
raw dog brad dogging me, I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
With me for most of my life, dude, Like, honestly,
homework was the hardest to do.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Was that hard for you too?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I didn't do homework at all. I had the average
in school.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Like I I was one of those films that didn't
care about high school.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
But my parents knew that. I mean, before music, I
was really really too film.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Okay, and I was like really good at that, and
they knew that.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
I was like dedicated, and they're like, if he tried
to get good grades, he could, but he's really good
at this one thing and he cares about that, and
you know that's a symptom of ADHD, like your hyperfixation. Right, So,
but I mean I did well enough just to pass by.
I think doing the bare minimum was like my motto
in school and college. I honestly didn't care about grades
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because I knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
So I was like this, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And I think that took you so far.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
It really did.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
I would have wasted so much time doing homework instead
of working on my craft.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, and your craft is beautiful when you were performing
those amazing vocals, amazing everything.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And are you a songwriter too?
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yes, I produce and write my own stuff. Sometimes I
wouldn't produce her friends, just like when I wanted to
sound but usually like it's just in my bedroom, like.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
There's no studio or nothing, like I don't have a space.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I just microphone in my bedroom and saying equipment that
I bought when I first started to like I was eighteen,
I think I went to Guitar Center and bought like
a mic and an interface.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
It was it was actually a road on T one,
pretty good story. I went it out.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
What the heck?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I was like, I'm gonna go in like all in
right away because I and so I just bought that.
And then I still YouTube to say like every song
to this day is still recorded on my mic.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Like wow, so I really I really like got my
word out of it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, and it's a song that you performed that I recognized.
That's in like three of my playlist was Sunset Bullet
YEAES and I also recorded that.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
On the same mic, Like it's all the same equipment,
Like no one can use the excuse like oh I
don't have good equipment. I literally just just buy something
and you can make it work. How many monthly listeners
you have a lot less than I did last year.
I think I think right now it's like one it's
been going up a little bit because of the new
song one forty something.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
But like thousand, Yeah, I got everyone's best spot My
Spotify looks like, to be honest, I was.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
There at some point, but I mean, like when Sunset
Blovar hits peak, I think I hit the max of
like five hundred K, and I was like super proud
of that. I think for at least four years of
my career it was still under one hundred thousands. Like
for a majority of my music career it was under
one hundred k, which is like it was my goal
to reach one hundred k, and now I'm like there
and it's like we're chilling.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
But I honestly don't think anyone should.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Like use the monthly listeners as their words because some
people were really really talented and they just don't have
the listeners yet. Like my friend, her name is Sarah
Kan She's a really good friend of mine, and we
first met when we were like just starting out. She
had like under one thousand on everything, but I was like,
she's so good, she's gonna go so far, and now
she's I mean, she had like over a million and stuff.
(05:47):
But I recognized their talent, like right away. She thought
my playoff was stell for real.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Now up thet.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Where are you guys from?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Well, she from like Texas, but she lives in New
York right now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Okay, okay, where where are you from?
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I am? I also used to live in Houston, but
I moved to New York.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So your movie is New York. Yes, we gotta, we
gotta go out to Nobiyani. We got we got to
take thirty one, all these.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Beautiful career I've been Take Street once.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
K Street. Yeah, it's one straight, that's it? Like la
Oh no, yes, I've been there once for a Broadway audition.
Oh it was so small. Oh my gosh, which one?
There's multiple? No, which which Broadway?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was like that K popsicle or something.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
It was the K Pop Broadway show.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
What's funny?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Kevin Wu wasn't that? Oh wait, Kevin Wait, give mecond wait.
Is this the same Kevin? Oh my god, I just realized, yeah,
it's the same Kevin Wait. I just wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
just hav an epiphany?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Wait? I think I met him at the audition thing?
You met him? Wait? I'm pretty sure, but no, but
I know that other guy was a lot shorter nerve mine.
I'll think I was in was under Kevin Will.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Maybe he had.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Ignore anything. I just like, I'm an shut up now off.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We also did the performance today with Kevin Will and
they crowd was electric.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
There's so much energy.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
He's so good, He's so good as a professional. I turned,
I turned to my manager and I was like, yo,
we were watching him.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was like, do I saw this guy's better?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
He's got years on those He was in the actual
K pop industry, so like makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I was. I was inspiring to watch.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
An actual case. He was an actual idol.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It was actual.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I was like a real company doing real shows in Korea,
and man like, dude's got that experience.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, I have a question, where did you like place
yourself relative in that field? Like what would like you
know what I mean, Honestly, I.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Feel like I'm in a different world thinking like I
think just because I'm Korean and I have like that
kind of look, I can kind of brand myself in
the kpop space MB and that's like this, But I
feel like what I do and like the kind of
music that I make is so far from where K
pop is. But I feel like I'm really in my
own nanth I just kind of try to be as
authentic as possible, and I incorporate a lot of like
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filmmaking into my my craft as well, So it's it's
pretty different, but I try to just be true in.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Myself pretty much.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So what you make is R and B.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, I do R and B primarily, but I kind
of experimented sometimes I do a little bit of folk
or like pop as you heard them I set. There's
a lot of different kind of sounds throughout my music,
so I kind of just like to go around. But
R and B is, like I guess, the main main
thing where I started.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Okay, So k pop, in my opinion, takes a lot
of influence from all these genres. Yeah, like American R
and B, like American hip hop, American like neo.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Soul, like all these things. Right, what makes what you
do separate from bath?
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I feel like K pop is a whole industry that's
really in Korea, and it's manufactured by those companies and
they you know, they hire and they train idols to
come up in this program, they teach up to dance.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
And when I think K pop, I.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Think choreographies really high end concepts, really high music videos
and like doing like stage performances with choreographies and of
course in Korea and usually in Korean, and so I
feel like I don't dance and I don't like I'm
the worst dance around the planet. Like I want to learn,
(09:35):
for sure, but definitely not good at it. And I
feel like K pop is is something that's separate from
me because I'm from America and I make music primarily
in English, and I embrace like Korean culture, but it's
definitely not like the main part of my prown. So
I feel like that's what separates me from k pop.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So you're saying k pop is more like the production,
the process and like all that goes into it, right,
And like for sure, like Anthony here he he went
through that whole system, right, you know, kind of like
hearing you talk about like like you starting fuyding that
mic and then just freaking going and now you are
where you are and then like it's a very different
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beginning from what you had. Oh yeah, right, so what
was your beginning like getting into music and like all
these things.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, I definitely think in the K pop industry, like
it's like you have to like a lot of artists
I feel like has to rely on entertainment companies in
at least in Korea.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And I could be wrong with that, but I mean judging.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
From like all these big like groups start coming out,
you know, they're all signed to a label, you know,
and I feel like if you're trying to be like
a solo artist in K pop, right, it's gonna be
a lot harder. So even when I started out, I
had to sign to a label, so CG Entertainment, and
then going through all that process and then just like
(10:54):
you know, they're technically monitoring everything, you know what I
mean to like see if I'm growing, see what parts
I need to do, you know, Like it's just like
it's more artificial. Yeah, I would say that rather than
like you can just be your own solo artists and
just make something out of it, you know what I mean.
At least that's just from my experience.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
So yeah, I really think it's more like a business
and products. The goal is to make revenue at the
end of the day, and they put together these people,
they train them through the system to make sure like
the best of the best make it, and they like
monetize the voice, the dancing and the faces. It really
is like a products and people really enjoy the product,
(11:37):
and I think it's it's like it's got its own place.
I think there's some uneffical practices with any industry, for sure,
as with any entertainment field. But I still think it's
a completely different medium than someone who's pursuing their own
artist's career, because that's more of their personal expression, whereas
CAP is really just like a machine and the idols
are performance. They're they're part of the machine rather than
(11:58):
this one of like arts, I think, But I think
they're equally valid in their own way.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Was correct.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, I can see this from like the perspective of
the artists, the people who like go through the system, right,
But I think to the fans, one thing that makes
K pop so special is the community that it brings, right,
the bright energy, the bright events and all these like
fan meetings and all these things, like even this like
an opportunity for you guys to come and join together
(12:26):
and like go to a concert. You know, Like to us,
it's like, oh my gosh, it's like all this it's
just it freaking sticks because we had to go through it,
you know, but like all this possible also because of
you guys and the fans is such a big part
of K pop too.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Can I ask one of you guys what do you
guys think about K pop?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Who would like to volunteer?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm gonna volunteer.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
Oh yeah, okay, go ahead, all right, okay, you can
come on here, come up, go okay here a yeah, yeah,
yeah okay, So, like what do you think about kop
and how is that like effect of your.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Life been akpop?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Man?
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Not that long, maybe like two years now. I got
into it because my friend she put me on, and
I think it's like, you know, hop really like connects people,
It builds community before that, you know, like she got
into it because of her friend. I feel like it's
something that people can do together. You know. It's always
about like being together. You can't you can't be have
(13:30):
a fan base, you know without a bunch of people,
you know, and they can all come together really like.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Love what they love, you know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
M hmmmm hm, b bars that far.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Salutations to you.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh no, yeah, I don't want to go accurate.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh yeah, Actually I was in New York and I
ran into so many friends who were like gathering for
extraordinary heroes. And then there's like people who were like yeah,
shout out, and it's people who like see each other
once every six months just to gather for these concerts.
And it's such like a beautiful like communion thing, you know.
So yeah, thank you for thank you for your input.
(14:21):
I get what can you? Can you introduce yourself to
the listeners?
Speaker 8 (14:23):
I'm Caitlin Davis, nineteen from Georgia.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I was scared, you're gonna keep them my social secure?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Thank you? Thank you, take care of.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Wo Okay, where'd you get the tiger in the room?
In that dream room?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I don't know who.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Gave us to us? Like like your addressing room?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, didn't you have something in your dressing room too?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Yeah? I got like a building bear? What the heck
they give you like a building dressed up as spider?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah? I was like, that's so you? Yeah, who is
it this?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Where's mine? What would you? What would yours make? Where's mine?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't know. Maybe iron Man or something. I don't
know iron Man.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Why what do you think Kenvin do that?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
He got a soda bro? He got a soda can plushy.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I want you guys to know that when he was
talking about his experience in Korea, I've never seen himself
locked in in my life.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
This is this is just right. Here is the ADHD squad.
This is the ADHD. Oh yeah, it's real bad. It's bad,
It's real bad. Oh yeah. That ties into my question
of as a solo artist, someone who's independent, how do
you keep yourself motivated because a lot of times, like
(15:55):
the company is always like lighting a fire under our butt, you.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Know what I mean, Like I gotta do this, this, this,
this next project. You don't really have types of thing.
But as like a solo artist, you're in charge of
your own mental health, You're in charge of your own projects,
You're in charge of your own timeline. So how do
you like navigate that to like kind of go through
and create?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Always?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
For me, I think that's one of my strengths is
that I've always just been a super self motivator.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Even before music, I was always.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Working on something, like whether it was film related, and
so when it came to music, I was just always
working on something and I kind of light my own
fire under my ass, and so I'm just like constantly
like pressure to like do something, because if I'm not creating,
I don't feel like I'm doing anything because expression and
like creating art is just kind of like my way
(16:40):
of life. So I don't even know if I could
go like a year without doing it. Honestly, how many
songs do you make a year depends anywhere from like
five to ten. It depends on how I'm feeling, or
how active I'm being, or if I'm not actively working
on an album or more just like promoting stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh wow, so you so you say each project is
like too, Yeah, like you really put a lot of
thought into each thing. Like I have friends, I'm like,
how many stngs you make like a like a week.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
They're like fifty, and then it's.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Just like it's it's their way of expressing themselves too.
But then like it's not as much thought, you know.
Would you say, like how would you describe your music?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think my music would just be like an unfiltered
version of what goes on in my head because I
think it manifests as a result of what I'm not
able to say usually, so like what I couldn't express
like in high school or just the people in general.
The stuff they can't really talk about just in a
normal group setting because it wouldet award or something I
would usually just express through my music, like the pain
(17:40):
and the hurt. It would just kind of come naturally
through the music. And I think a lot of people
they kind of take their music more as like of
a skill set where they like they put in their hours,
like they make fifty songs a week or whatever, And
I think that's that works with a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
But for me, I can't physically do that. I don't
have the motivation to do that.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
But whenever I'm feeling inspired or I feel like a
certain need to release something, I just end up writing
and then I just take that song up go with
And a lot of people are like, don't don't like
wait for inspiration, But for me, it happens enough where
it's like I have a consistent basis in writing where
I don't need to just like sit down and write
fifty songs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
One thing that like my main thing.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Is dance and learning from like a bunch of dance
schools in New York. They really prioritize storytelling, they really
prioritize self expression, and the people have gone as far
as to tell me. If you're dancing and you don't
have anything to say, don't dance.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And then I was like, what, I like, is it
that deep? And then like it's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It really is, because when you're expressing yourself, you're doing
these arts, you're saying something and if you're saying nothing,
it's just.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Noise, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And then I really love that you kind of put
that value onto your art. And I think a lot
of artists too, they have this innate.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Want to be heard right and innate one to be understood.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And I think with your situation, like just that drive
and that that all that that let's go get it
mindset where like oh oh get my mic and I'm
still using it, you know, and let's make this music.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I's learned all these things.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I think it really embodies the purest form of that.
So like, that's freaking.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Awesome, dude, think you know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And and and when I hear your music, I really
resonate with that.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
I really literally I showed you I had yourself on
my playlist.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, So keep going? Is there? Okay?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
With that being said, do you have a song that
really clicks with you in your heart right now.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I think it was one of the songs I
performed called Tomorrow, that one like I wrote in a
really like bad place, like I told you, like, I
got diagnosed last year and I wrote that song right
before I went home and like god diagnosed because I
was like everything was like falling apart.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I was like super depressed.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And I wrote that song, and uh, it kind of
brought me some comfort, and I think it's bringing a
lot of other people comfort too. It's not out of
but it's definitely one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Okay, can we get a sneakfake?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Did I mean didn't you hear it earlier? Like right now?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know he said he heaper fromed it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Oh sorry, it's like it was like it was taught
to horrow halfway through my set.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh wow, okay, well thank you for sharing that. Yeah,
of course, what was the process like when you got diagnosed.
I remember like when I first came back from like
the psychiatrist for the first time, I was like, oh
that makes sense, like like all like I'm not stupid,
(20:37):
I'm just I'm carrying more weight than everybody else, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
I think for me, it was like I kind of
always knew I had ADHD or something, but I didn't
really want to like go to a psychiatrists because it
wasn't I was like handling my stuff. But then when
it's like really bad, I was like, okay, I need
to go see a psychiatrist. And it kind of went
like she asked me some questions and then and she
was like, Okay, it seems like have pretty bad depression
(21:02):
of anxiety.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Oh okay, I thought I.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Had ADHD, but but she's like, oh, you, well, you
might also have that too. So then she you know,
basically diagnosed me with depression anxiety on the spot, just
with the questions. But then she had like a test
for the ADHD, and she sat me in a room
with like a TV screen and it was just like
a white dot in the middle of a black screen,
and she gave me a clicker, and every time a
(21:25):
square would pop up at the top, I would have
to click, and every time a square would pop up the.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Bottom, I would not click.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So sometimes it would they would like flash the top
one a bunch, and I'd be clicking just like subconsciously,
and then like they flashed the bottom when I accidentally
click when I should have or if it's like supposed
to be not clicked for a while, and then they
have another one.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I like a focus.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
It's like a focus thing, and maybe at first I've
dialed in, but it's a twenty minutes long test for
twenty minutes and it's extremely boring, but that's the point
it gets you, like your attention.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
If you guys are cooked, I don't think any of
you guys could do it.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
The scale was like from negative ten to zero, zero
to ten, and if you were anywhere from zero to
like above, you're fine. But if you're like negative two
or below, you like have ADHD. I scored like a
negative seven, so they were like, yeah, it's like pretty
clear that you have. Like they gave me the test
results before they officially diagnosed people. But she's like, you
looked at the thing right, Yeah, She's like, so you.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Know you have it.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I'm like yeah, it's like all the way down then.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Wow, dang.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We were talking about this a little bit backstage, but
my experience with the complete flip where you went in
for like anxiety and depression and then they were like
oh yeah, also shit, and then I went in for
ADHD and then they were like, actually, this whole ADHD
thing not your biggest problem, brother, And then they took
(22:42):
gave me tests for like like chronic depression and like
anxiety on these things.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
They were like, we need to handle this first.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And then I was on like a six to seven
month long treatment for like depression, and then.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Like at the end of it, I was just bored,
so I left. But but like it was like the
complete opposite.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So and the reason I bring this up is because
that plays a big part in my art too, And
it's like the way I create, the workflow at which
I create, and the topics that I create about and
and when you're when you're going through these things that
a lot of people don't normally relate to, and then.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
And then you're kind of like place that in your.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Music, Like how do you how do you go about
like like trying to communicate these feelings that maybe someone
doesn't know about.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
It's hard for me because it just kind of I
just express it in a way that makes sense for me,
and you either get it or you don't. And I
feel like I try to convey a lot like visually too,
through like the emotion of my voice but I've never
been like the best lyric writer. But I feel like
people are able to understand what I'm feeling just through
like what I show visually through music videos or like
(24:00):
the emotion in my voice. But I think it's also
for those of the people who did go through and
they do, you know, have that experience, it's better for
them because you know, they have someone out there just like, oh,
they get it, you know, and they'll understand right away
because it's not something they have to translate in their brain.
But so I think it's it's mainly honestly targeted more
(24:21):
towards people.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Who understand, but for people.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Who don't have that experience, I think there's story for
them to understand and through watching or listen to it
all right, And.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This also ties back to like being in a cape
all company, because you also went through your own big
share of stuff, right, like how old were you when
you moved to Korea?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I was fourteen forty?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Way for your family all this stuff and dealing with
like isolation press, like like how did you kind of
handle all that?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Well?
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Luckily a lot of my like young's are like older brothers, right,
they all like took pretty good care of me when
I was training there, and especially because theyunderstood that I
was like an international student, right, Like, I mean, they
took good care of me. They made sure like I
always was invited to like their hangouts and all that stuff,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
But I mean I did.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Like live like by myself while I was there, you know,
and then I had to take like in like an
hour and a half train ride back home.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
And I also at school, right, So I mean it
was just very tiring.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I didn't really have time to process a lot of
like this the stress because I already have to do
is like so much, right, And there was always something
in my mind or even if I'm in like the train,
I would always just compile my mind of something like
oh if I learned this choreography, I'm like I just
practiced inside the train, you know, Like if I'm sitting down,
I'll like be like doing a choreography or something.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
So it was like my mind was just racing all
the time. But now that I look back at it now,
I would say, like do I regret it, No, not
at all. But there was moments where it was very
lonely at times, you know. But you know, my mails
the past. So I mean, it's it's all right now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Interesting things that I find about what you just said
that connects to where I am right now too. Right
is when there's a hard time, what you dope into
your art, right, it's like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm just
gonna practice this choreography, right. And two was community, yeah
for sure. So it's community and art and then just
creation and all these things, right, And that's the exact
(26:27):
thing that I'm actually chasing right now and like trying.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
To build community of people. And I'm like, forget about.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Me, like even K pop, you know, it's like who
knows what even you guys are going through right now?
And then it's like, Okay, well, I know that I
have someone to hang out with, you know, I know
I have someone to support me, you like, you have
your films who are like but don his hangouts. Yeah,
And it's like, Okay, I could be I could be
like going through this, this and this and that, but
(26:54):
but Kevin Willm is in Gays South Arena.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
You want to come, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And then it's like Okay, then we get to decorate
our photocard collectors do all these things and then all
this is it is healing, right, it's trumforting, and I
feel like that's one of the strengths of K pop.
So so just kind of tying that back in, you
know what I mean, any last words that you have
for our radio audience.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
That it gets betuning in. It was great to have
this conversation.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
I don't usually get to have conversations like this on
like a public platform, So thank you for providing this
platform for me.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
To speak on, but thank you for insight. That was
a lot that was deep. I was like, oh my god,
Like I was like, whoa, where are we right now?
Usually I just freaking turn on the bike and gap
for an hour.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I do that too, Like whenever do my Instagram lives,
I just like sit there and yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
When you turn on Instagram Live, I feel like I
feel like I black out. And at the end, I'm like,
I don't know what happened. I'm gonna go get some
chick full leg.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah he's kind of go with the low.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, wow, try it. I think you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Jay walk to Chick fil A, you know, yeah yeah,
and New York jaywalking is legal.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, it is it is, it's legal. They're like they're like,
we're not going to stop. People like just freaking do
I mean, I mean yeah at that point, like who cares?
This is me you work, bro, there's like too many people.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, well, thank you for your second time coming onto
the podcast, Anthony.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Is there anything you would like to tell the audience?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean, obviously thank you for like you guys tuning
in and all the people that are here. I know
it's like pretty late and we got pushed behind schedule,
but the fact that you guys still showed.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Up, like we really do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
And also that you know, I performed with the Soger Boys,
so like, you know, it's whatever you mean.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's like I just performed, you know, it's not videally
in us whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, does anyone wants to come on and say anything
to either us or the or the audience, or any
words of yeah, come on come on.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Here, Domina, I can give her my mic Okay, Hey, yeah, are.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You dressed as one of the characters from Regular.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
No, that's just your drill, just a crazy drip for
me swagged beyond my comprehension.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Is that your real hair as well, yes it is.
I just spleached my.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Wow all myself. Wait crazy the back. That's frigod talent
right there?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Wow can could you?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Could you introduce yourself, your name and everything? H right,
My name is Victoria.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
I'm twenty one years old.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I live in Atlanta, been.
Speaker 9 (29:37):
Here for about a year now. I do mechanics and
also I do songwriting as well.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Hey, yeah, well the floor is yours.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Whatever you want to say to the audience, whatever you
want to say to us, anything, anything you want.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Oh lor Okay, So I'm kind of curious what is
it like to start out as a songwriter. How does
the journey go when you first start out?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I mean, for me, honestly, like, it wasn't my specialty.
Like I wasn't a musicians. Some people grow up like
singing or whatever, like they have musical talents, but me,
I was just kind of like, all right, I'm I'm
kind of interested in this. So I started learning how
to play guitar and singing. I wasn't one of those
people who sang ever, like not in the shower, not
like ever, because I was just shy. But I just
started like recording covers in my parents' house, whenever people
(30:24):
were gone, and I would just write songs and they
all sucked. They were all terrible, and none of those
songs will ever come out. But it's like the practice
of like making stuff until you you feel like you're
getting somewhere, and then you just keep going until you
feel like you're at a point where you can release something,
and you just start releasing and then you just go
from there. Like, there's really not much that I have
(30:44):
to think about.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I just went for So I would.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Say, if you're afraid of anything, like just don't even
worry about it, just go for it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Don't be afraid to suck. Yeah, yeah, because you're always
gonna suck. He brought a bunch of songs that were
doodoo but and didn't release it.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I wrote a song that was dudu butt and then
I released it.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I mean a lot of my songs too, when I
was starting out, Like I'm not like the broudest of them,
but I leave them up there just because like it's
part of my history. So even if I listen back
and I'm like the fringing and my old like songs
that I wrote, I'm still like, all right, that's that's
where I started.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now I'm here, So wherever you are, you journey right now.
Just just be passionate about it. There's no supportant thing
to know that you want.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
To do it, so that even when you feel like
you suck and that everyone like thinks that you suck
or whatever, it doesn't matter because you want to do it.
Because whenever I was in a place where I felt
like I was just terrible, what not not fit for this,
just the passion for it because what kept me going.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And also there's like like when you're afraid to suck,
when you're afraid to like kind of like you're pushing
all these things down, like you're not afraid to be seen,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like look at your drip. You know, you're swagged out
beyond comprehension.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So it's like like part of your part of your
songwriting is part of that self expression, you know. So
it's like, just don't be afraid to be seen, don't
be afraid to be heard, and how you are in
that moment.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You deserve to be heard. You deserve to be this
because you have something to say, you know, So just
keep going.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Some of my songs actually really sucked at the beginning.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
I only have two that I'm willing to release.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I wish it the best of luck when you're with
your future career, and yeah, just just be passionate about it.
Always be true to yourself and do what feels right.
I always follow your heart, honestly. But yeah, well, best
of love with the name, because that's that's like the
hardest part, honestly, like.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Coming up with your name.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Yeah, I was thinking about.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
That, but all right, you wanna all right, Well, thank
you to the live audience listeners, Thank you to everybody
tuning into on radio and this is the K Factor
everything K Pop with your host Buhon and today we
had and all wonderful beautiful love.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Yes, all right, so you got next week By M
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