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February 8, 2024 26 mins

In this episode, Karol interviews John Bachman, a Newsmax anchor and host. They discuss topics such as recognition and fame, the challenges of parenting, the importance of family meals, the impact of phones and social media, and the need to slow down and be present in the moment. They also touch on the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce relationship and the importance of focusing on positive stories. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Last week I put out a call for advice for
my single listeners who want to meet someone to marry.
I got a ton of tips, but I wanted to
sort through them all so that I wasn't telling single
people to, you know, put yourself out there or get

(00:29):
on the apps, advice they've heard a million times and
that probably makes them like murderous at this point. I
will tell you that a lot of people suggested similar stuff,
and so I'll tell you what that is. One thing
that came up a lot was going to church and
obviously translate that into your own house of worship if

(00:50):
you're not a Christian, and that generally sounds like a
great idea to me. You're more likely to meet someone
a bit more serious and interested in something actually at church.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Another piece of advice that many shared was to get
off the apps. And I approve of this one obviously,
and I've talked about it on the show. Before the
apps become like a video game. They take away the
urgency to meet someone because you can just keep swiping.
Having said that, I think they can be useful for

(01:22):
at least creating a pool of people to date, especially
if you work from home or generally don't get the
ability to meet a lot of datable people. I would
treat the apps as a step in the process and
not like the whole process. Take it offline as quickly
as possible. Once you do meet someone on an app,

(01:43):
see if there's an actual real life attraction as early
as you can, because I think that's one of the
biggest things. People spend a lot of time talking to
somebody on the app, and they'll think that they're attracted,
but then they'll meet in real life and realize that
they're not. So just just using the apps in a
limited fashion. Tim Carney, who will be on the show

(02:06):
next month when his latest book comes out, and whose
brother John Carney, was on the show this past Monday,
suggested throwing house parties. He said, one per month, and
go out of your way to make sure friends of
friends come. He said, if you're the host, every girl
who shows up is happy to talk to you. And
you know, that's a great idea. I think as people

(02:28):
get older that gets tougher to accomplish. But if you're
of an age where you can have a bunch of
people over to your place, have people bring friends, and
that's a really good way to meet people. One Twitter
response from someone called Hostage Hoyser, hostage Hoyser, I think
that's I'm saying it correctly was young ladies stake out

(02:48):
the engineering department at your local university. The goods are odd,
but the odds are good. Now. I'm not commenting on
the oddness of engineers here, but I like this one
a lot because it is always good to put yourself
in a situation where you can meet multiple datable people
and see who you like. My hobbies, politics and poker

(03:10):
were always very male dominated. I'd go here speakers at
New York political events and men outnumbered women by a lot,
and I have often been like the only woman at
a poker table for a man. That might translate to
like a dance class or a cooking class. Just somewhere
where women will outnumber men. Buy a lot and you'll

(03:33):
get to meet kind of a lot of women, all
at the same time, and possibly hit it off with one.
My last idea is to make sure that your friends
know that you want to get set up. I have
some friends that love to be set up and some
that very much don't knowing which ones are into being
introduced will help your friends think of you when they

(03:55):
come across someone interesting. I know none of these suggestions
are rockets science. My goal here is to motivate you,
if you're single and don't want to be, to go
take a chance and to live your life in a
purposeful way so that you can meet your person. My
final thought is that if you're trying to meet someone,

(04:16):
nothing will hold you back more than still seeing or
talking to, or worst, hooking up with someone you used
to be with. It will lull you into a feeling
that you're with someone when you're really just wasting your time.
Coming up next and interview with John Bachman. Join us
after the break. Hi, and welcome back to the Carol

(04:40):
Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is news Max
anchor and host John Bachman. You can watch his news
show streaming noon to two pm Eastern every day on
news Max two. Thanks for coming on, John, Carol.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm so excited to do this with you.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I'm so happy you're here. So I have to say
I say, I feel like you have a very made
for TV look like even if I didn't know you
I'd be like that guy is on TV. Do you
get recognized a lot?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't get recognized a lot. I mean I do
get recognized, but the more common thing that happens, and
you might be able to talk about this too, because
you know you're certainly in the same uh you know
arena is people will just look at you, and you
wonder do they actually recognize me? Sometimes I'm reminded like humbled,
because I'll leave straight from work with makeup on my

(05:30):
face and I'll be like, oh my gosh, I'm at
home depot and somebody recognizes me, or they see me
and look at me, when really they think they're just
looking at me because I'm a guy wearing makeup at
home depot. I think that happens more often than actually
people recognizing me, but it does depend on where I am.
And I'm always again humbled when people do recognize me
and come up to me and they talk about the

(05:50):
fact that they appreciate what I do or which which
does happen from time to time. So that keeps me going.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, I like when people look at me and they're like,
did we go to high school together? That's not it.
That's not where you know me. Yeah. No, so you
have this hit show, you're obviously doing amazing. I know
you have a beautiful family. Do you feel like you've
made it?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
No? And I thank you for making sure I was
ready for this question. And I mean there's just I mean,
I don't know how anyone with multiple kids can ever
feel like they've made it, because, you know, I think
everyone is challenged in a different way and it's all
for the better. I mean, I think you know you
can attest to this is that you know, having kids

(06:33):
is one of the most challenging and rewarding things anybody
can ever do. And those two things things go hand
in hand. So you know, there are moments of calm,
and I really try to appreciate those moments, but more
often than not, it's like crazy schedules and travel, basketball
and you know, coordinating all that stuff, and it just
life feels chaotic. But I mean, just walking in here today,

(06:55):
for example, my son had froot loops in the back
seat and he spilled them all over for the back seat.
And I used to get mad about that stuff, but
now you realize, like you know, someday you're not going
to have to clean up their fruit loops anymore.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, and you know over here is that when they
go to college or yeah maybe.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Never, maybe never, but you know, you realize you you
serve a purpose greater than yourself, and that's that's what
you try to take away from this. Stay please keep
your sanity about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, it's funny because for me, whenever I succeed at
like a week of you know, taking them to sports
and getting everything done, that's when I feel like I've
made it. That's what I'm like, I am a success.
Like look at me, you know, ordering the groceries and
having everything in the fridge and like, you know, getting
everybody where they need to be on time. Those are
my most successful days.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think I couldn't agree more. And especially the days
when you can get everybody around the dinner table at
the same time and you have everyone's focus because again,
my kids are still young enough. My oldest is twelve now,
and you realize, like how sleading that that is when
you can actually accomplish that those types of moments, And
it makes me just appreciate and respect my parents all

(08:04):
the more for being able to do that on a
regular basis. Get me and my sister to sit down
and have family meals. It's hard to overstate how important
and how much I appreciate that those types of things.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
And it's harder than it looks.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh yeahs.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
You know, for a long time, it was like, oh,
we have dinner together every night, and I'd be like, yeah, so.
But then the kids hit in age when they all
have activities and sports, and you know, you have activities also,
and it does get harder. And I am proud of
myself when we're able to do it. So I completely
get that. Is your oldest one a boy.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Or a girl. My oldest is a girl, and I
always joke around with my wife that she's like a
starter kit for first time parents because she was just
so easy compared to the other.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
The trick baby. I have one of those Yes's.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Something about the oldest. I guess they give you kind
of like an on ramp into parenting. But yeah, she is,
you know, great student, really great athletes, very respectful. Could
have a room a little more clean, But if we're
going to nitpick, that's my nitpicking.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
My oldest is a thirteen year old girl, and I
keep waiting for her to be teen angsty and not
like us. And so far, so good. I mean, you know,
we'll see how it goes. I'm not, you know, counting
anything out for the future years. But I was Enoughmaire
as a teenager, and I keep waiting for her to
be the same, Like when is she going to like
get into like blacknail polish and like goth rock or something.

(09:29):
She's like this bubbly you know, almost fourteen year old
who likes like Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yes, well, I said twelve. I think my daughter's thirteen,
thirteen years old. I should do that. I'm doing like
the the Kamala Harris math. I guess she was born
in twenty eleven. It's twenty twenty four now, or she
will be thirteen. So it's all blur. It is all blue.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's all It's all a blur. It's all
a very fast moving blur. So if you weren't in TV,
what would be what would you be doing? What would
be planned.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Beca Oh man? You know, if you would have asked
me I question a long time ago, it might be
different now. But my answer to the best answer I
could give you is something with my hands, you know,
might be in a trade, something like a plumber or electrician.
You have a couple of those calls come out to
your house an emergency situation, you really start to value
people in the trades, either that or doing something with food.

(10:19):
I think I did work as a cook in a
restaurant when I was in high school for a brief
period of time, and it was backbreaking, hard work, especially
when you work the fry station. But I do love
to cook, and you know, the it's especially for the family.
I guess it's different in a work environment, but it
might be something like that because the enjoyment you see

(10:39):
when people are enjoying what you cook is a feeling
it's hard to replicate.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, I love that because it's so practical. Those are
like things.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
People needed for sure, at least with the food and
neat on there.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do you what do you enjoy cooking?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You know, probably barbecue like most men my age, the
whole milk, meat or grill or fire. That primal instinct
to do stuff like that. And then aside from that,
I love Mexican food, and my oldest daughter and I
have a little kind of you know, hobby where we
try to find all these taco stands all over South

(11:16):
Florida and try the pastor tacos and whatever else they
have to offer. So there's you know, one of the
great things is I'm sure you've already discovered about living
in South Florida is the cultural diversity when it comes
to food is kind of you know, maybe not as
good as New York, but it's it's certainly got its
own thing going for it.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm going to have to get that taco truck map
from you, because you know, there is a lot of
cultural diversity here in food. But I, I don't know,
maybe I just haven't explored enough because I think I
need to see some more. Especially taco trucks is definitely
something I feel like I haven't hit enough of. So
I'm going to get the John Bachman Map of taco
trucks of South Florida.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You should sell that, I should. It could be maybe, Yeah,
we talked. We've actually talked about that, my daughter and I.
She has her own kind of like you know, twelve
year old vocabulary for rating these things. I was like,
you know, we should capitalize on that.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Awesome. So you talk about cultural issues, you talk about
political issues on your show. If you had to sum up,
like what our largest cultural or societal issues are what
would you say that that would be.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I would say these things right here. Our phones and
the way we use our phones. I mean, I remember
getting my first iPhone, and you know, it's become such
an integral, integral part of our lives too much. So
I think we have this cultural trend now where people
are retreating further and further from actual human interaction. I

(12:48):
saw a joke yesterday on AX about like, you know,
who actually picks up the phone to call? I think
Elon Musk or somebody was writing about that, and how
you know, texting is the preferred method of unication, and
I think there is something lost by text when it's
become a vital part of how I communicate with my
team here, with my family and everything. And it's certainly

(13:08):
more convenient. But I think the less we interact on
a human level, face to face, the worse off we're
going to be. In the biggest reason for less human interaction,
I think of those phones and the social media applications
that we have on these phones. I mean, you just
it's like a complete retreat from all the advancement we've

(13:28):
made as a civilization. And until I think people realize
The analogy you often hear at times is we've got
to make kind of the cell phone, the smartphone like cigarettes.
You don't want to ban it, but you don't. You know,
there's certain places where you just don't smoke a cigarette nowadays,
and that's accepted by everybody, and that the phone just
has this unbelievable ability to interrupt any moment that you have,

(13:52):
you know, to interrupt your own thoughts. If you know
you're just taking a break from whatever, you're zoning out,
you know, it just it has the ability to interrupt
all that stuff and just take you back to this
kind of death cycle of negative, negative thoughts. And so
I think as a culture, we've got to get away
from using our phone so often. It's a it's a

(14:14):
struggle that I have every week when I get that
little notification on my screen tape in the week, Like
one of the things I always try to, you know,
base my week on it is I got to do better,
you know, I got to lower the screen time. So
if I can have consecutive weeks of lower screen time,
I really feel like I've accomplished something.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I heard this thing one time regarding texting that if
texting had come out before phone calls. We would be
really impressed with phone calls, Like, yeah, just call somebody
up and just tell them what you need to say.
You don't need to type anything. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, it's so true, so true.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
We're going backward fault into texting. I mean, I'm definitely
more into texting than phone calls. If somebody calls me,
I'm like, what is happening here? Why? Why is my
phone ringing? You know, what could they want? Do you
take social media breaks? No?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Maybe I should. I do. Try. One of the things
that I've just in the last six months I've really
tried to do is not get on my phone on Sundays,
just you know, try to take as much you know,
you have to check your phone, especially nowadays, we could
be a war any moment, and that would, you know,
definitely change what I was doing in that moment. But

(15:19):
you just try to take moments, you know, take breaks
periodically and not be on your phone. And I you know,
watching other people all the time. When I'm driving to
work in the morning, I see kids at the bus
stop and like every single kid is standing around down
looking their phone, not interacting with each other. Yeah, you know,
and that's like, you know, I just wonder what they're

(15:40):
engaging in at that moment, and that's you know, that's
such a big influence on kids these days.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, it's depressing that they can't be bored, like somebody
I saw this on Instagram, you know, on social media,
but whatever where you know, kids now have like in
the car, it'll be on their phones or the TVs
in the car. Now entertainment and our entertainment when we
were kids was like watching two rain drops racing which
one would get to the bottom.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I saw that same clip where the guy was like
they had to invent a term for mindfulness like when
I was a kid, right, that's what he said. We
didn't have to be mindful. We just watched two you know,
condensation drip down the window on the bus stop. And
I felt that because I'd literally been in that moment
getting on your bus in the morning, nothing to do.
You don't want to look at your homework, you just
and so like all you can do is like make
little you know, I used to make little footprints on

(16:29):
the windows with my palms, yes, you know, on the
on the bus stop, and that was like was invigorating
you know, exciting.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I love those little footprints. I still do those
on my kids showers whenever they have like condensation, I
make a little footprint for them, and you know, yeah,
it's a it's it's really the problem is that they
expect constant entertainment. And I say they, but I mean us,
oh totally obviously are just as bad, if not worse.
But at least when we were kids, or at least

(16:55):
when I was a kid. I think you're probably younger
than me, but you know, there was the boredom which
you just had to live with, and you were bored
and that was okay, and you read the back of
you know, product boxes to entertain yourself, or you know,
maybe even read a book that would be you know
what you did. And I feel like this generation we

(17:17):
try to keep our kids. I mean, I'm not saying
we're perfect. They come home, they're on their iPads. You know,
it definitely happens, but in restaurants, for example, they don't
get to use their phones or anything like that. I
see now on the beach people handing their kids iPads
and that really kills me. Like you're on a beach,
you're in South Florid and look how beautiful everything is,

(17:38):
and you live in this magical place where you're visiting
and you're on an iPad, and I just I think
there needs to be some boundaries, not just for kids,
but for us. I do this thing where I take
my you know, Twitter off my phone because that's my
big addiction.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Is that your oh totally Twitter Instagram now and I
feel like this pressure to keep up on those two
social media It's part of my work requirement. You know
that we use it for promotional purpose. It's part of
my job. But I also understand it's not real life,
you know, it's really I just keep telling myself that
over and over again, and you know, something that I

(18:14):
had to be conscious about. Just to your point again,
I want to give my wife a lot of credit
because she really made the decision when I was at
work most of the time, to you know, just take
our kids devices away. It was in the kind of
the peak of the pandemic. There was fear being just
thrown at them all the time, and even if we
had them on kids YouTube, it still seemed like there
were advertisements seeping in just perpetuating this fear all the time.

(18:36):
So we just it was like taking pass away pacifiers
away from our kids too. Very difficult in the short term,
but you saw the reward and the long term. We
just kind of We got my twelve year old daughter
a phone, but there's no social media on it. I mean,
I don't I think again, going social media is like
cigarettes too. There's no way a kid should have access
to social media until their mind is is developed to

(18:57):
a point where they can understand like really differences between
you know, fiction and reality, because you know that that images,
all that stuff that has just pushed on social media.
I think, you know, the Taylor Swift whole kind of
thing is part of that, which I have my own
feelings on, but it's and then it gets perpetuated because
you know, people that we interact with a lot, some

(19:20):
of them are just like viscerally angry about this this
old terrorist Taylor Swift conspiracy theory and things like that.
So h yeah, yeah, you got to get You've got
to get these devices. Like you know, I watch myself
and I'm clearly addicted. And I see my dad, you know,
like I was in the car the other around Christmas
time with my dad and my daughter. Neither one of

(19:40):
them are addicted to social media, and I just I've
just thought to myself, Wow, that must be nice to
not like feel the sensation right now, to to have
to be checking my did my post this morning get
this many likes or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So we're going to take a quick break and be
right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. My suggestion is
that when you are on vacation and you're not at
work and you don't have to be on it, take
Twitter off your phone. That's what I do. And then
you come back and you're refreshed and you like everybody again,
and everybody seems like not as crazy as they were

(20:13):
when you left, and it's it's a really nice thing
to just completely And I'm you know, I've said this
on the on the show before, but I am such
an addict that when I take it off my phone,
I'm still like pressing the empty space where it used
to be several times a day because I just can't, like,
I'm just my muscle memories, like, oh where's my Twitter app?

(20:33):
But it's really good and it it clears you up,
but it also again makes the app more interesting and
fun again briefly, but still it makes you know it
makes a good change for you.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I will try. I'll give it a try.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, So what do you what do you think about
the Taylor swift Where are you?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You know? I yeah, I think there's been more like
inkspilled on this relationship and it's almost like destined to fail,
because how can they ever possibly live up to the
expectations that have been set for them, you know, based
on their popularity and all the challenges that come with
a regular quote unquote relationship. Now they have all the
pressures of the world and the Swifties and the Chiefs

(21:13):
fans and the NFL. You know, I went into a
Sporting Good story yesterday and the only jersey, you know,
they had on display was Travis Kelsey's jersey, And it
just shows you, like, we're in Florida and then you know,
the Super Bowls in Las Vegas. The teams are from
San Francisco and Kansas City, and this is what is
you know, being pushed. And I do think though, like

(21:35):
for all these conservators that are mad or talking about
this conspiracy theory about the script being written, et cetera,
like there's a legitimate alternative for conservatives to be happy about,
and it's this guy brock Purty, the quarterback for the
San Francisco forty nine ers, And I want to talk
about this a little bit today on the show. It's
like this guy is a devout Christian. He is. He

(21:56):
was a last player selected in the NFL draft and
I don't remember which year, but they call this guy
mister irrelevant. He but he worked hard, he put in,
he paid his dues, and now he's got a chance
to become a super Bowl champion. And that's like, that's
a classic American story. So I'm what my message for
conservatives would be, like, focus on that if you really

(22:17):
want to walk what you talk like, there's a legitimate storree,
great storyline, great central character who's doing all the right things,
and you can talk more about that than you talk
about you know, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. So there's
like this, you know, overwhelming desire. And I think again
this goes back to social media and all the societal

(22:40):
pressure that kids and adults face these days is just
to talk about one thing, to get swept up in
these types of things, and it perpetuates itself and it's
like not healthy, Like that is not the ideal that
relationship is the ideal kids or adults should be seeking,
you know, right, She's like, but take a private plane

(23:01):
from Tokyo back to the super Bowl. It's like, nobody
can do that. We can't do that in our daily lives.
Let them be them, And I'm actually pointing to them.
I don't know if you saw there's I think it
was Fomo Capital, which is a Twitter feed. They were saying,
here's what happens Travis Swift, I mean, Travis Kelsey and
Taylor Swift get married, they have a bunch of kids.
It starts a baby boom, China collapses. Yeah, that's that's

(23:24):
what we should all be rooting for that. Taylor Swift
and Travis Kelcey have like five kids. They go on
to understand what it's like to try and bring up
up the next generation. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey both
have conservative revivals and realize that the nuclear family is
really what we're missing here in this country. Then and
then you know, they become like you know, Kirk Cameron
and whatever. Yes, in the future.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, So I don't know
if I could root for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You might have to. But this, I mean, people say,
like the future of.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Humans very bad to us, those forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, the future of humanity is in brock Perty's hands
unless you want to talk about Taylor Stript and Travis Kelcey. Yeah,
and that goes out to conservatis who can't get over
it either.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right. The thing is, I don't think of them as
so I mean, especially Travis kelce like the Kansas City Chiefs,
the whole conspiracy theory where like, oh, they're being you know,
put up to win because of Taylor Swift. Like have
you seen the last few years of football. They've won
once or twice without her and it's not about her.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
But I mean I am on a couple of minds
of this because and not to get too far down
in the weeds on football, but Todd Monkin, the offensive
coordinator for the Ravens, you know, he was the University
of Georgia where I went to school offensive coordinator for
the last two years when they won the national championships.
Guys like a mastermind, and he runs all these running

(24:44):
plays into the Kansas City defense, which is like kind
of goes against logic, and so that I'm thinking to
myself because I'm always like, you know, being in this
stuff out like, well, maybe maybe that's the script that
they were talking about, because why would he do those
type of things? Or Dan Campbell? Why would he why
would he not kick the field goal? Like maybe that's
where they pressure to do something like that, and that's.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
They're all kings.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I got bills to pay, I got carpool, I got basketball.
Let's move on with real life and the grocery shopping.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, exactly. So I love talking to you, and here
with your best tip for my listeners on how they
can improve their lives.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think what you know, it's like slow down. That's
just something that's the number one that's the best piece
of advice I ever got, and I've got it from
multiple people, whether it's how I talk on television or
just you're always looking for the next thing in life.
It's to slow down and be more present. And I
don't think you know, you really appreciate that again until
you have your own kids and you realize how fast

(25:44):
they grow up, and it's like just just got to
be in the moment sometimes to really appreciate the bigger
picture stuff. And so that's what I that's the that's
the piece of number one piece of advice I constantly
give myself. And because it goes against my nature, sure,
but I think it's the best piece of ice out there.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I like that. That's really you know, it's simple, but
it's true. Being in the moment is what it's all about.
And if we could accomplish that, I think we'd all
be far happier.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm gonna we were all warned, right, Ferris Bueller told
us just to stop and you know, and take them
on with to appreciate things. We should have listened more
to those non herees movies.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Thank you so much for coming on, John Gray.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
It was my pleasure, Carol, love to do it again.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Thank you so much for joining us on The Carol
Markowitz Show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
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