July 29, 2024 • 28 mins
In this episode, Justin Robert Young shares insights on his podcast, political views, and the significance of maintaining a consistent sleep schedule. The conversation also delves into the challenges of journalism and the impact of political activism on reporting. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Last week, JD. Vance got into this whole kerfuffle from
an old video from twenty twenty one, where he said
this quote, the entire future of the Democrats is controlled
by people without children. How does it make sense We've
turned our country over to people who don't really have
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a direct stake in it. He said the country was
being run by quote, a bunch of childless cat ladies
who are miserable at their own lives and choices that
they've made, and so they want to make the rest
of the country miserable too. I'm going to maybe write
about the politics of the comment and the way that
Democrats attacked him for telling them how to live their lives,
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as if they don't do that to all of us
all the time. But Vance went on the Megan Kelly
Show and said that people weren't addressing the substance of
what he said. So I want to do that here,
especially since I frequently talk about what a societal and
personal plus it is to have children. My thinking is
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that Vance's comments are absolutely right on the macro level.
Of course, society is better off with people having children.
Of course, people have more of a stake in society
if they have kids. It's crazy to believe otherwise. When
I worry about Europe or specifically Britain, because the rest
of the continent, you know, I feel less about But
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I've always loved Britain. It's a large part because they're
not having kids. It does feel sort of shoulder struggy
about the future because their birth rate continues to drop. Yes,
they're not you know, super emotional people, stiff upper lip,
et cetera. But it feels very much like they're losing
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their culture and society to unchecked immigration, and very few
feel like fighting back because what's the point. But on
a micro level, what Vance said is insulting, and I
fully understand that there are people who desperately want to
have children and can't. There are people who don't want
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to have children but still care passionately about the country
that will live on after they're gone. Of course, all
of that's true. I can think of many examples in
my own life of people representing both of these things.
It's funny that people have brought up George Washington as
an example of someone who cared deeply for the country
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despite not having children. I use George Washington as an
example for friends who are on the fence about having kids.
I wish we had George Washington's progeny around right now.
Vance was trying to target Democrats for not being the
party of families, and sorry, I fully get that. It
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was very obvious when Democrats did everything they could to
not open schools during the pandemic. Randy Weingarten was one
of the worst villains of that, and obviously she doesn't
have kids. But again back to the micro level, some
of my greatest allies in getting schools open were childless.
Of course, we can't just assume that people without kids
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don't have a stake in the future. Vance is a
vice presidential candidate now, and his vision should be for
the whole country. I'd love for him to cut out
the micro. He insulted people who otherwise like him, and
that's a silly thing to do in politics. I'd love
to hear him speak more about the macro, about how
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good it is for all of us to have kids,
about how our country needs people to have families, and
I'd love for him to get into the decline of
marriage rates, because look, while kids are important, I'm most
scared about the relationships that the younger generations just aren't
having and find so much harder to find. One thing
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leads to another. Talk about the benefits of marriage and
kids will largely follow. Coming up next an interview with
Justin Robert Young. Join us after the break.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My
guest today is Justin Robert Young, national politics reporter and
host of the Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Hi, Justin, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm very excited for a non political show.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I forced you to say politics four times in the
first three seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, so I was going to say politics, politics, politics.
What's your podcast about?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Mostly model train building? You know, we try to diversify.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I came up with a name that was very memorable,
but possibly the worst SEO decision that I've ever made
in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hi, everybody's googling politics podcasts.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sure, yeah, and that's the problem is that everything else
shows up before my podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I should have. I should have.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
My second name was the Carol Mark Wood Show. So
I'm glad that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I used that because that would have been a problem.
So we recently met for the first time at the
southern border visit.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
We're all great friendships begin Yes, a talent at the
southern US border.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, the many.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Unfinished walls that you could just walk right around.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
That was actually I feel like.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a story that doesn't get told enough. That all
of the walls are extremely easy to penetrate, Like, well,
the Trump Wall is like you literally could just walk
around it because it's not finished, and I don't know
how it could be finished because there's really nowhere they
could go, because they explained to us right that there's
nowhere that the wall can continue on to.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, that was something, you know, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
It was a really interesting trip and I'm glad that
I did it because it showed that that problem is
so small faceted. When you look at the wall and McCallen,
you realize very quickly that America's number one trading partners Mexico,
So you kind of the wall makes a lot of
sense just to make sure that the money is coming
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in in this direction, and then anybody who would want
to claim asylum would be going in another direction, which
just makes sense. It makes business sense for a lot
of different stakeholders. The larger issue I think that we
were explained and talked to a bunch of people is
just that we have a broken asylum system that has
been abused, and that's that's where I think we probably
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have more of a political issue that will be dealt with,
you know, going.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Forward, we'll never be dealt with or won't.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And we'll just continue to have a problem and everybody
will raise money on it for the rest of time.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That sounds more plausible.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So how did you get into politics podcasting?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
What was your background?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I was a bright eyed young journalism student way back
in the day, and I got a degree in Syracuse
University at the new House School, and I was all
excited to begin my career. I was a crime reporter initially,
that's really what I wanted to do. And then looked
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at the landscape of newspapers, which at that point we
were at like the final days of newspapers being a
relevant thing in.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The world because the timing.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, so I graduate in two thousand and five, so
we are right. I'm super fired up by the Internet
and super fired up about blogging.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I look in the field and I'm like, eh, let's
give it a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
So I decided to go and try a few other
things in the meanwhile. And by the time that I
got back to a position that I wanted to maybe
re enter the matrix, everything was on fire. Newspapers were
not moving in the position that I wanted to, and
so at that point I pretty much began podcasting and blogging,
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and that kind of started right out of college. It
was a horrifying financial decision for me. It certainly was
cool among.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Us didn't make that horrifying financial decision, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Pursuing our dreams.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We're so stupid exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Now. The good news is is that now, as we
talk in twenty twenty four, it might be investing all
this time into the world of free entertainment on the
internet might have been the best way to invest my time,
as I can now make a living doing it. But boy,
in the moment, as I was paying off my student loans,
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I really felt like a ding donk.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, most expensive mistake I've ever made is going to
graduate school for politics.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know, I what a huge error? Turned out nobody needed.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
That, No, Yeah, thankfully I was. I was so disillusioned
with college. As soon as I got there, the concept
of finishing my undergraduate was was going to be an upset,
which did happen only because I started working at the
Daily Orange, which is a student paper that's independent of
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the university. But I just spent my entire time there
actually learning how to you know, report and overseeing a
budget and overseeing a staff, you know, actual lessons that
were applicable to my life. If I had only gone
to class I, I really would have been a lot more.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Sad than I am now Now I'm happy, which is good.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So what do you consider your beat?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Like, what's what are you most covering?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Politics? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So how did I get into politics?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I really kind of backed into it.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Politics was something that I have always been obsessed with.
It's always been something that I followed. It's, you know, to.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Give my my druthers.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
If I'm re reading a book, if I'm reading newspaper coverage,
I'm always I've always been obsessed with politics and political history.
And so I'm doing a comedy show that then turns
into a one mic show. And I decided in the
twenty sixteen election that you want to know what this
is getting a little heated let me separate out the politics,
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so I can everybody can, we can have fun with
this other thing, and I can just talk.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Politics on this other show.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I'll quarantine it, right, And it turned out that the
audience wanted me. There was a lot bigger audience for
me to talk about politics than there was for me
to talk about news of the of the day. Yeah,
and so it wound up becoming my main gig.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And I feel like you love politics, and I don't
mean so. A lot of people love politics. I love politics,
but I also hate politics. I feel like you don't
have like a love hate necessarily.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think you really do love it.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I really do, mostly because I don't think that they're
are many things on the planet that are the same
sociological experiments that we do once every four years.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Specifically, here in America, we have raw crush it up.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And snort it fast, and the furious style first past
the post democracy on a level that nobody else in
the world has, And so.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
The strategies are interesting to me, The messaging is interesting
to me. And the competency of these gigantic machines that
sort of battle out in front of us is endlessly fascinating,
as is the history to it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So a question that I ask everybody on this show
is what is our largest cultural problem? And so what
is it? And is it something that you cover on
your podcast.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I don't think it's anything that I cover.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I do think that it is something that is exploited
by politics, and that is fatalism. I think that America
has a real fatalism problem and it is.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, let me let me rephrase it.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
America's self loathing complex, I think is its greatest strength,
especially strength.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, I didn't think you're gonna say strength.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Okay, Well, what as much as I've traveled around the world, Uh,
there's one thing that stands out, and that's America has
its own faults, very front and center in its mind,
and that goes across all political spectrums. We know what
the problem is and we want to address it immediately,
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and that has been to our great benefit. I think
it's been to our great benefit economically, technologically, and socially.
We have we have benefited from our ability to identify
problems and go forward. The problem that I see is
that there's two ways that you can handle it. When
you identify a problem, fix it or wallow in it.
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And I think that in our modern world, we've wallowed
in it a little bit more than I think is healthy.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And that's in politics.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You exploit that a lot because you need a problem
to solve, so you can get people to donate money
and go to.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
The ballot box and hit a button.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
But you should take some time off from that and
think of why, how far have we come have we
been working on this problem?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Look at that?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, I think we all see that in our
own lives that sometimes you got to take a breath
and you got to look at the road behind you
and say.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Wow, we've walked a long way.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
We should feel good about that without sacrificing the idea
that we do have longer to walk.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think a lot of people think of Americans because
it's funny you said, you say that we're self loathing.
I just picture like people in Europe who think that
we're like so obsessed with ourselves, like, yeah, well we
are self loathing. We're constantly beerating ourselves and we're constantly
I think there's a sense in America that doesn't exist
in places like you're, for example, that when there's a problem,
it has to be solved, even if we don't end
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up solving it, which we don't, we at least kind
of entertain that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We should solve this problem.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Some other countries necessarily have that. I lived in Britain
for a while. They're not looking to solve any.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
No, and that's we have such a self loathing complex
that we go to other countries so if they can
complain about us, so we can agree with them, right, Like, that's.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That's that's it. It's a fascinating, a fascinating thing.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, and it's hard to not
be obsessed with yourself when you're an American when you
go abroad and every news that you go to has
like a fifteen minute here's what happened in America today, Yes, right,
the way, that doesn't happen in America.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
In America, it's fifteen minutes for the rest of you,
Like maybe maybe you get a little bit, but.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
It's a gigantic, gigantic block in any Western country, Japan
or Japan not a Western country obviously, but a First
World country, Japan, England, Italy, Germany.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Any place that I have been, they all have the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So at a certain point you do have to throw
your hair back and say, oh my god, why are
you so obsessed with me?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Was yours? The Mariah carry line? Though? Why are you
so obsessed with me?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Subsessed?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well that was my first thought when the UK announced
that they were having their elections on July fourth.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And I'm like, why are you so obsessed with us?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Like, God, it's been a while, you guys should really
get over it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, so do you?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Another question that I asked all my guests is do
you feel like you've made it? You have a really
successful podcast, you talk about what you want to be
talking about your you know, self made right, It's it's
a big thing.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Uh, you know, it's it's funny as I've thought a
lot about you sent these questions, and so I've really
wrestled with this and them.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So I'll tell you that I like that. I get
a lot of shocked faces of.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
People being like, what where did It's all my email? Actually?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Uh yeah, I'm going to say yes because I do
believe that I have built something rare for now I
think that we will probably see stories like mine a
lot more common going forward. But I'm not a satisfied guy.
I'm not somebody that that tends to rest well on things,
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and so there will always be a part of me
that wishes I had plugged into the matrix that I
had some buzzy you know, I had a a poster
a Times pick any of them like next to my
name at some point, just because those were the brands
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that I was obsessed with growing up. But at the
same time, whenever I get into my head of like, well,
you know you can apply, like you know people that
work in these places, like you could you could go
work there, I'm like, yeah, yeah, but then I'd have
a boss and I probably wouldn't want to do the
things that they want me to do.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
And so I talked myself out of it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
So on one level, I do think that I've got
miles to go. I do think that what I do
could be bigger and better, and I could apply myself
more and I could do X, Y and Z. So
I will, for motivational purposes say no, but to just
point out that you should also take stock of your
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own life and appreciate what you have, I'll say, yes,
that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Do you are you open about your own political views
or do you just because I you know, I was
thinking about this, I just assumed you were a libertarian
because we were on a trip with a bunch of libertarians.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
A bunch of libertarians here.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh, I don't know your political leanings.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Yeah, I don't identify myself as a conservative or a
liberal commentator.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I will say that.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Identifying yourself as a libertarian is probably the most sato
masochistic thing that you could do, because it just obligates
you to have a lot of conversations with libertarians about
what kind of libertarian you are, which, having just left
their convention two weeks ago, I think I'm full for
the next several decades of discussing exactly the font size
of the L.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I talk openly about my opinions on issues. But I
do think that there is a real worth that I
can give to people by not identifying as a political
as a conservative or liberal commentator, because what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Is just be correct on how I'm seeing the race.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
And if I say, oh, here's my opinion on or
like I'm taking I'm looking at this from a conservative perspective. Right,
then I'm not providing to conservative listeners because conservative listeners
want when something crazy happens, they want to listen to
me and trust that I can read the polls, trust
that I can see what fundraising is and say, yeah,
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this did matter, or I'm not If I say I'm liberal,
I'm not really serving my liberal listeners because when something happens,
they want to come to me and say, hey, does
this matter? Because that's the number one thing I get
from either side is thing happens? Does this matter?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
And I want to preserve my ability to do that
for the listenership.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Because lots of podcasters, I would say that don't say
what their political leanings are. But then you just know.
And I find it interesting that I don't know yours.
Like again, I just assumed you were, you know, cookie libertarian.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, and I I think.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know, And I'm very i feel like I identify as
a conservative, but I'm very aligned with libertarians.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They are my people. I go to their parties. They
are a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So yes, you know, oh yeah and me too.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I I probably the closest I've ever come to identifying
is anything personally would have been a libertarian when I
was in my twenties and I was first reading Reason
magazine the way that everybody gets into the libertarian drug.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I will say also that one of my favorite memories
of that trip that we took down to the border
happened literally on the plane there where we were all
on the same flight down to McAllen and I was
with Andrew Heaton, who does the funny videos for Reason,
and you just pointed it, just said Brett Kavanaugh, Bret Cavanall.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He had no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like, so the joke is, you know, he had played
Brett Cavanaugh in a video. So I have I have kids,
they are fourteen, eleven, and eight, and like I want
to get them into politics or at least understanding like
political sides, and Reason makes it very easy. They have
a lot of these very funny videos that explain a
lot of issues very clearly. I don't always agree with them,
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but in general I just enjoy their content. And so
my kids had seen him as Brett Kavanaugh for a
long time. We watched that video a few times. It's
really funny, but he doesn't identify himself as Brett kataw
He doesn't walk around being like I am Brett Kavanaugh,
but I see him, so he was like where. I
was like, Brett Kavanaugh is on my flight, and he
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was like, where where is he?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, I will say that walking around the Libertarian convention
with Andrew Heaton is like walking around with Mickey.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Mouse as a superstar.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Right, Oh yeah, everybody, he might be the most popular
person there, and when you get more than ten Libertarians
in a group, one person being popular becomes a challenge
because there's constant infighting.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
But everybody appreciates.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Heat and doing stuff for reasons, So it was definitely
very funny.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I went to conference a few years ago, nieces right,
I wasn't sure I was saying it right, but I
was with Michael Malice. Oh my god, that was like
being with I don't even know Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
He was like he was mobbed. I was like, you're famous.
Who even knew?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Like, yeah, yeah, he's uh he is definitely he's got.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
If he were there, he would have definitely had a
lot of a lot of attentions as well. But yeah,
I mean, like, i I'm very glad, I'm always very happy.
I'm secretly very happy when people can't peg where I
come from a politicistrating.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I think it is it's actively hindered my career.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Really will say that I do think that if I
were even if I just did exactly what I was doing.
But I said, I'm the conservative who believes X or
I'm the liberal who believes why that I probably would
do better. But I don't think I would feel good
because I don't really want to identify myself as either.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I have to tell you, in that graduate program that
is the most expensive.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Mistake I've ever made.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
They told us that you can't be an independent, like
you have to be a Republican or Democrat. And I
was the only Republican leading person in my class. Obviously
it was NYU.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So but there was one liberty universe. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
One girl and she was independent.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And they were like, you got to pick a stop Like, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Now, knock it off. There's there's no money there.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And that's that's the funny thing is, Yeah, I've talked
to a friend of mine who is flirted with the
idea of running for office, and she's very much an independent,
and I was like, well, you got to pick you
got to be the conservative leading Democrat or the liberal
leaning Republican or yeah whatever, you guys.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Know somewhere in the center. You got to pick one
because that's where.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
The money comes in, that's where you get a ID,
that's where you know, and just nobody.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Has the time to figure out what you stand for.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean they barely.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
People barely do it. Like with candidates that they that
they know everything about. They're not going to research an
independent candidate and see which issues which size.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's just I will say that that's one of the
things that I very much have a a a very
serious opinion on. In terms of journalisms. They do think
that journalism is draft drifted into activism from a reporter level.
You know, columnists are always going to be bringing the spice.
That's fine, that's what there's there's a carved out niche
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for it. But reporting has either gotten activists in that
you're searching out activist positions or lazy in that you
are just taking copy pasta from an activist.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Point of view and pretending that it's the news.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
And that's one thing that I want to if I
do have a principled stand it is it's good to
be able to say you don't know where I'm coming from,
because at the very least you know that you can't
discount what I'm saying. And there's a real value of
that that I think has been eroded in journalism.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I really love that, and I think that everybody should
be listening to your podcast, Politics, Politics, Politics, and here
with your best tip for my listeners on how they
can improve their lives. This is a podcast about life
and not about politics.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Even though we.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Touched on it a little bit, touch, yeah, touch, it
veers this way sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
So I will say this, like many people, I hit
a certain level of rock bottom emotionally and physically during
the lockdowns. I was in I know, you're in Florida now, right,
but you're in New York. Similarly, I was in the
Bay Area. I was in Oakland, so places that were
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very right. You know. It wasn't that you couldn't leave
your It was just that society had decided to shut down,
so even if you left your house, you couldn't really
go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
At that point. And I was.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Overweight, drinking way too much, and very very sad. I
had fallen off a scooter drunk and broken my hand.
I just felt like, all right, we got to start
making some decisions here that are going to like we
can control what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Let's go forward. And the number one thing, the number
one thing that I found sleep.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
If you are in a bad situation, any you want
to improve anything in your life, and you do not
go to bed at the same time and wake up
at the same time, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
That's what else?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Because that makes so I started working out more. But
before when I didn't have a set go to sleep,
wake up schedule, it's harder to work out because your
body doesn't know when everything. Everything gets built from the
foundation of sleep, diet, your exercise, your productivity, everything starts.
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This is the ground level foundation of trying to get
better sleep. Now I'm talking to you now, my firstborn
daughter will arrive at some point in August. This will
probably be going out the window with Yeah, I will
probably not.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Be able to manage my sleep in the way that I.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Was comes back.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Scare you it really People make too much of a
deal about those early few months. Yes, you don't sleep
for a few months, but then it all kind of
evens out.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, and I'm holding on loosely.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
That's that's really my philosophy throughout everybody that I've talked to.
But yeah, sleep, sleep is the number one thing if
you If you can figure that out, you've gone a
long way toward making everything easier, making all the stuff
that we think of as hard, including diet and exercise
and productivity.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It makes it easier when you have your sleep on
a rail.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm going to go nap right after this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So he is justin Robert Young his Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
Where could people find your show? Where could they follow you?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Not only everywhere that you get your audio podcasts, including
Spotify and Apple, but on YouTube, YouTube dot com. Slash
at part of Politics Politics Now, a fully video show
that only started about a few months ago. So we're
very excited to bring that to you. The listener of
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the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Thank you so much for coming on, Justin, Thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show.
Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Last week, JD. Vance got into this whole kerfuffle from
an old video from twenty twenty one, where he said
this quote, the entire future of the Democrats is controlled
by people without children. How does it make sense We've
turned our country over to people who don't really have
(00:32):
a direct stake in it. He said the country was
being run by quote, a bunch of childless cat ladies
who are miserable at their own lives and choices that
they've made, and so they want to make the rest
of the country miserable too. I'm going to maybe write
about the politics of the comment and the way that
Democrats attacked him for telling them how to live their lives,
(00:53):
as if they don't do that to all of us
all the time. But Vance went on the Megan Kelly
Show and said that people weren't addressing the substance of
what he said. So I want to do that here,
especially since I frequently talk about what a societal and
personal plus it is to have children. My thinking is
(01:13):
that Vance's comments are absolutely right on the macro level.
Of course, society is better off with people having children.
Of course, people have more of a stake in society
if they have kids. It's crazy to believe otherwise. When
I worry about Europe or specifically Britain, because the rest
of the continent, you know, I feel less about But
(01:36):
I've always loved Britain. It's a large part because they're
not having kids. It does feel sort of shoulder struggy
about the future because their birth rate continues to drop. Yes,
they're not you know, super emotional people, stiff upper lip,
et cetera. But it feels very much like they're losing
(01:56):
their culture and society to unchecked immigration, and very few
feel like fighting back because what's the point. But on
a micro level, what Vance said is insulting, and I
fully understand that there are people who desperately want to
have children and can't. There are people who don't want
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to have children but still care passionately about the country
that will live on after they're gone. Of course, all
of that's true. I can think of many examples in
my own life of people representing both of these things.
It's funny that people have brought up George Washington as
an example of someone who cared deeply for the country
(02:38):
despite not having children. I use George Washington as an
example for friends who are on the fence about having kids.
I wish we had George Washington's progeny around right now.
Vance was trying to target Democrats for not being the
party of families, and sorry, I fully get that. It
(03:00):
was very obvious when Democrats did everything they could to
not open schools during the pandemic. Randy Weingarten was one
of the worst villains of that, and obviously she doesn't
have kids. But again back to the micro level, some
of my greatest allies in getting schools open were childless.
Of course, we can't just assume that people without kids
(03:23):
don't have a stake in the future. Vance is a
vice presidential candidate now, and his vision should be for
the whole country. I'd love for him to cut out
the micro. He insulted people who otherwise like him, and
that's a silly thing to do in politics. I'd love
to hear him speak more about the macro, about how
(03:44):
good it is for all of us to have kids,
about how our country needs people to have families, and
I'd love for him to get into the decline of
marriage rates, because look, while kids are important, I'm most
scared about the relationships that the younger generations just aren't
having and find so much harder to find. One thing
(04:05):
leads to another. Talk about the benefits of marriage and
kids will largely follow. Coming up next an interview with
Justin Robert Young. Join us after the break.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My
guest today is Justin Robert Young, national politics reporter and
host of the Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Hi, Justin, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I'm very excited for a non political show.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I forced you to say politics four times in the
first three seconds.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, so I was going to say politics, politics, politics.
What's your podcast about?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Mostly model train building? You know, we try to diversify.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I came up with a name that was very memorable,
but possibly the worst SEO decision that I've ever made
in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Hi, everybody's googling politics podcasts.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Sure, yeah, and that's the problem is that everything else
shows up before my podcast.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I should have. I should have.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
My second name was the Carol Mark Wood Show. So
I'm glad that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I used that because that would have been a problem.
So we recently met for the first time at the
southern border visit.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
We're all great friendships begin Yes, a talent at the
southern US border.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, the many.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Unfinished walls that you could just walk right around.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
That was actually I feel like.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That's a story that doesn't get told enough. That all
of the walls are extremely easy to penetrate, Like, well,
the Trump Wall is like you literally could just walk
around it because it's not finished, and I don't know
how it could be finished because there's really nowhere they
could go, because they explained to us right that there's
nowhere that the wall can continue on to.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, that was something, you know, it was.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
It was a really interesting trip and I'm glad that
I did it because it showed that that problem is
so small faceted. When you look at the wall and McCallen,
you realize very quickly that America's number one trading partners Mexico,
So you kind of the wall makes a lot of
sense just to make sure that the money is coming
(06:15):
in in this direction, and then anybody who would want
to claim asylum would be going in another direction, which
just makes sense. It makes business sense for a lot
of different stakeholders. The larger issue I think that we
were explained and talked to a bunch of people is
just that we have a broken asylum system that has
been abused, and that's that's where I think we probably
(06:39):
have more of a political issue that will be dealt with,
you know, going.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Forward, we'll never be dealt with or won't.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And we'll just continue to have a problem and everybody
will raise money on it for the rest of time.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That sounds more plausible.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So how did you get into politics podcasting?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
What was your background?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
So?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I was a bright eyed young journalism student way back
in the day, and I got a degree in Syracuse
University at the new House School, and I was all
excited to begin my career. I was a crime reporter initially,
that's really what I wanted to do. And then looked
(07:20):
at the landscape of newspapers, which at that point we
were at like the final days of newspapers being a
relevant thing in.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The world because the timing.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, so I graduate in two thousand and five, so
we are right. I'm super fired up by the Internet
and super fired up about blogging.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I look in the field and I'm like, eh, let's
give it a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
So I decided to go and try a few other
things in the meanwhile. And by the time that I
got back to a position that I wanted to maybe
re enter the matrix, everything was on fire. Newspapers were
not moving in the position that I wanted to, and
so at that point I pretty much began podcasting and blogging,
(08:08):
and that kind of started right out of college. It
was a horrifying financial decision for me. It certainly was
cool among.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Us didn't make that horrifying financial decision, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Pursuing our dreams.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We're so stupid exactly.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Now. The good news is is that now, as we
talk in twenty twenty four, it might be investing all
this time into the world of free entertainment on the
internet might have been the best way to invest my time,
as I can now make a living doing it. But boy,
in the moment, as I was paying off my student loans,
(08:46):
I really felt like a ding donk.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, most expensive mistake I've ever made is going to
graduate school for politics.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
You know, I what a huge error? Turned out nobody needed.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
That, No, Yeah, thankfully I was. I was so disillusioned
with college. As soon as I got there, the concept
of finishing my undergraduate was was going to be an upset,
which did happen only because I started working at the
Daily Orange, which is a student paper that's independent of
(09:18):
the university. But I just spent my entire time there
actually learning how to you know, report and overseeing a
budget and overseeing a staff, you know, actual lessons that
were applicable to my life. If I had only gone
to class I, I really would have been a lot more.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Sad than I am now Now I'm happy, which is good.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So what do you consider your beat?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Like, what's what are you most covering?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Politics? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So how did I get into politics?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I really kind of backed into it.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Politics was something that I have always been obsessed with.
It's always been something that I followed. It's, you know, to.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Give my my druthers.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
If I'm re reading a book, if I'm reading newspaper coverage,
I'm always I've always been obsessed with politics and political history.
And so I'm doing a comedy show that then turns
into a one mic show. And I decided in the
twenty sixteen election that you want to know what this
is getting a little heated let me separate out the politics,
(10:21):
so I can everybody can, we can have fun with
this other thing, and I can just talk.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Politics on this other show.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I'll quarantine it, right, And it turned out that the
audience wanted me. There was a lot bigger audience for
me to talk about politics than there was for me
to talk about news of the of the day. Yeah,
and so it wound up becoming my main gig.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And I feel like you love politics, and I don't
mean so. A lot of people love politics. I love politics,
but I also hate politics. I feel like you don't
have like a love hate necessarily.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I think you really do love it.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I really do, mostly because I don't think that they're
are many things on the planet that are the same
sociological experiments that we do once every four years.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Specifically, here in America, we have raw crush it up.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
And snort it fast, and the furious style first past
the post democracy on a level that nobody else in
the world has, And so.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
The strategies are interesting to me, The messaging is interesting
to me. And the competency of these gigantic machines that
sort of battle out in front of us is endlessly fascinating,
as is the history to it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So a question that I ask everybody on this show
is what is our largest cultural problem? And so what
is it? And is it something that you cover on
your podcast.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I don't think it's anything that I cover.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I do think that it is something that is exploited
by politics, and that is fatalism. I think that America
has a real fatalism problem and it is.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, let me let me rephrase it.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
America's self loathing complex, I think is its greatest strength,
especially strength.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, I didn't think you're gonna say strength.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Okay, Well, what as much as I've traveled around the world, Uh,
there's one thing that stands out, and that's America has
its own faults, very front and center in its mind,
and that goes across all political spectrums. We know what
the problem is and we want to address it immediately,
(12:40):
and that has been to our great benefit. I think
it's been to our great benefit economically, technologically, and socially.
We have we have benefited from our ability to identify
problems and go forward. The problem that I see is
that there's two ways that you can handle it. When
you identify a problem, fix it or wallow in it.
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And I think that in our modern world, we've wallowed
in it a little bit more than I think is healthy.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And that's in politics.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
You exploit that a lot because you need a problem
to solve, so you can get people to donate money
and go to.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
The ballot box and hit a button.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
But you should take some time off from that and
think of why, how far have we come have we
been working on this problem?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Look at that?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
You know, I think we all see that in our
own lives that sometimes you got to take a breath
and you got to look at the road behind you
and say.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Wow, we've walked a long way.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
We should feel good about that without sacrificing the idea
that we do have longer to walk.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think a lot of people think of Americans because
it's funny you said, you say that we're self loathing.
I just picture like people in Europe who think that
we're like so obsessed with ourselves, like, yeah, well we
are self loathing. We're constantly beerating ourselves and we're constantly
I think there's a sense in America that doesn't exist
in places like you're, for example, that when there's a problem,
it has to be solved, even if we don't end
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up solving it, which we don't, we at least kind
of entertain that.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
We should solve this problem.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Some other countries necessarily have that. I lived in Britain
for a while. They're not looking to solve any.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
No, and that's we have such a self loathing complex
that we go to other countries so if they can
complain about us, so we can agree with them, right, Like, that's.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
That's that's it. It's a fascinating, a fascinating thing.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, and it's hard to not
be obsessed with yourself when you're an American when you
go abroad and every news that you go to has
like a fifteen minute here's what happened in America today, Yes, right,
the way, that doesn't happen in America.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
In America, it's fifteen minutes for the rest of you,
Like maybe maybe you get a little bit, but.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
It's a gigantic, gigantic block in any Western country, Japan
or Japan not a Western country obviously, but a First
World country, Japan, England, Italy, Germany.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Any place that I have been, they all have the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So at a certain point you do have to throw
your hair back and say, oh my god, why are
you so obsessed with me?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Was yours? The Mariah carry line? Though? Why are you
so obsessed with me?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Why? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Subsessed?
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well that was my first thought when the UK announced
that they were having their elections on July fourth.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And I'm like, why are you so obsessed with us?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Like, God, it's been a while, you guys should really
get over it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, so do you?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Another question that I asked all my guests is do
you feel like you've made it? You have a really
successful podcast, you talk about what you want to be
talking about your you know, self made right, It's it's
a big thing.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Uh, you know, it's it's funny as I've thought a
lot about you sent these questions, and so I've really
wrestled with this and them.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So I'll tell you that I like that. I get
a lot of shocked faces of.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
People being like, what where did It's all my email? Actually?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Uh yeah, I'm going to say yes because I do
believe that I have built something rare for now I
think that we will probably see stories like mine a
lot more common going forward. But I'm not a satisfied guy.
I'm not somebody that that tends to rest well on things,
(16:47):
and so there will always be a part of me
that wishes I had plugged into the matrix that I
had some buzzy you know, I had a a poster
a Times pick any of them like next to my
name at some point, just because those were the brands
(17:08):
that I was obsessed with growing up. But at the
same time, whenever I get into my head of like, well,
you know you can apply, like you know people that
work in these places, like you could you could go
work there, I'm like, yeah, yeah, but then I'd have
a boss and I probably wouldn't want to do the
things that they want me to do.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
And so I talked myself out of it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
So on one level, I do think that I've got
miles to go. I do think that what I do
could be bigger and better, and I could apply myself
more and I could do X, Y and Z. So
I will, for motivational purposes say no, but to just
point out that you should also take stock of your
(17:49):
own life and appreciate what you have, I'll say, yes,
that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Do you are you open about your own political views
or do you just because I you know, I was
thinking about this, I just assumed you were a libertarian
because we were on a trip with a bunch of libertarians.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
A bunch of libertarians here.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Oh, I don't know your political leanings.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Yeah, I don't identify myself as a conservative or a
liberal commentator.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I will say that.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Identifying yourself as a libertarian is probably the most sato
masochistic thing that you could do, because it just obligates
you to have a lot of conversations with libertarians about
what kind of libertarian you are, which, having just left
their convention two weeks ago, I think I'm full for
the next several decades of discussing exactly the font size
of the L.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
I talk openly about my opinions on issues. But I
do think that there is a real worth that I
can give to people by not identifying as a political
as a conservative or liberal commentator, because what I want
to do.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Is just be correct on how I'm seeing the race.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
And if I say, oh, here's my opinion on or
like I'm taking I'm looking at this from a conservative perspective. Right,
then I'm not providing to conservative listeners because conservative listeners
want when something crazy happens, they want to listen to
me and trust that I can read the polls, trust
that I can see what fundraising is and say, yeah,
(19:23):
this did matter, or I'm not If I say I'm liberal,
I'm not really serving my liberal listeners because when something happens,
they want to come to me and say, hey, does
this matter? Because that's the number one thing I get
from either side is thing happens? Does this matter?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
And I want to preserve my ability to do that
for the listenership.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Because lots of podcasters, I would say that don't say
what their political leanings are. But then you just know.
And I find it interesting that I don't know yours.
Like again, I just assumed you were, you know, cookie libertarian.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Yeah, and I I think.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know, And I'm very i feel like I identify as
a conservative, but I'm very aligned with libertarians.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
They are my people. I go to their parties. They
are a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So yes, you know, oh yeah and me too.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I I probably the closest I've ever come to identifying
is anything personally would have been a libertarian when I
was in my twenties and I was first reading Reason
magazine the way that everybody gets into the libertarian drug.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I will say also that one of my favorite memories
of that trip that we took down to the border
happened literally on the plane there where we were all
on the same flight down to McAllen and I was
with Andrew Heaton, who does the funny videos for Reason,
and you just pointed it, just said Brett Kavanaugh, Bret Cavanall.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
He had no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like, so the joke is, you know, he had played
Brett Cavanaugh in a video. So I have I have kids,
they are fourteen, eleven, and eight, and like I want
to get them into politics or at least understanding like
political sides, and Reason makes it very easy. They have
a lot of these very funny videos that explain a
lot of issues very clearly. I don't always agree with them,
(21:11):
but in general I just enjoy their content. And so
my kids had seen him as Brett Kavanaugh for a
long time. We watched that video a few times. It's
really funny, but he doesn't identify himself as Brett kataw
He doesn't walk around being like I am Brett Kavanaugh,
but I see him, so he was like where. I
was like, Brett Kavanaugh is on my flight, and he
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was like, where where is he?
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, I will say that walking around the Libertarian convention
with Andrew Heaton is like walking around with Mickey.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Mouse as a superstar.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Right, Oh yeah, everybody, he might be the most popular
person there, and when you get more than ten Libertarians
in a group, one person being popular becomes a challenge
because there's constant infighting.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
But everybody appreciates.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Heat and doing stuff for reasons, So it was definitely
very funny.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I went to conference a few years ago, nieces right,
I wasn't sure I was saying it right, but I
was with Michael Malice. Oh my god, that was like
being with I don't even know Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
He was like he was mobbed. I was like, you're famous.
Who even knew?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Like, yeah, yeah, he's uh he is definitely he's got.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
If he were there, he would have definitely had a
lot of a lot of attentions as well. But yeah,
I mean, like, i I'm very glad, I'm always very happy.
I'm secretly very happy when people can't peg where I
come from a politicistrating.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I think it is it's actively hindered my career.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Really will say that I do think that if I
were even if I just did exactly what I was doing.
But I said, I'm the conservative who believes X or
I'm the liberal who believes why that I probably would
do better. But I don't think I would feel good
because I don't really want to identify myself as either.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I have to tell you, in that graduate program that
is the most expensive.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Mistake I've ever made.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
They told us that you can't be an independent, like
you have to be a Republican or Democrat. And I
was the only Republican leading person in my class. Obviously
it was NYU.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So but there was one liberty universe. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
One girl and she was independent.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And they were like, you got to pick a stop Like, yeah, right.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Now, knock it off. There's there's no money there.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And that's that's the funny thing is, Yeah, I've talked
to a friend of mine who is flirted with the
idea of running for office, and she's very much an independent,
and I was like, well, you got to pick you
got to be the conservative leading Democrat or the liberal
leaning Republican or yeah whatever, you guys.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Know somewhere in the center. You got to pick one
because that's where.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
The money comes in, that's where you get a ID,
that's where you know, and just nobody.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Has the time to figure out what you stand for.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean they barely.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
People barely do it. Like with candidates that they that
they know everything about. They're not going to research an
independent candidate and see which issues which size.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's just I will say that that's one of the
things that I very much have a a a very
serious opinion on. In terms of journalisms. They do think
that journalism is draft drifted into activism from a reporter level.
You know, columnists are always going to be bringing the spice.
That's fine, that's what there's there's a carved out niche
(24:36):
for it. But reporting has either gotten activists in that
you're searching out activist positions or lazy in that you
are just taking copy pasta from an activist.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Point of view and pretending that it's the news.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
And that's one thing that I want to if I
do have a principled stand it is it's good to
be able to say you don't know where I'm coming from,
because at the very least you know that you can't
discount what I'm saying. And there's a real value of
that that I think has been eroded in journalism.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I really love that, and I think that everybody should
be listening to your podcast, Politics, Politics, Politics, and here
with your best tip for my listeners on how they
can improve their lives. This is a podcast about life
and not about politics.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Even though we.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Touched on it a little bit, touch, yeah, touch, it
veers this way sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
So I will say this, like many people, I hit
a certain level of rock bottom emotionally and physically during
the lockdowns. I was in I know, you're in Florida now, right,
but you're in New York. Similarly, I was in the
Bay Area. I was in Oakland, so places that were
(25:56):
very right. You know. It wasn't that you couldn't leave
your It was just that society had decided to shut down,
so even if you left your house, you couldn't really
go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
At that point. And I was.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Overweight, drinking way too much, and very very sad. I
had fallen off a scooter drunk and broken my hand.
I just felt like, all right, we got to start
making some decisions here that are going to like we
can control what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Let's go forward. And the number one thing, the number
one thing that I found sleep.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
If you are in a bad situation, any you want
to improve anything in your life, and you do not
go to bed at the same time and wake up
at the same time, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
That's what else?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Because that makes so I started working out more. But
before when I didn't have a set go to sleep,
wake up schedule, it's harder to work out because your
body doesn't know when everything. Everything gets built from the
foundation of sleep, diet, your exercise, your productivity, everything starts.
(27:05):
This is the ground level foundation of trying to get
better sleep. Now I'm talking to you now, my firstborn
daughter will arrive at some point in August. This will
probably be going out the window with Yeah, I will
probably not.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Be able to manage my sleep in the way that I.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Was comes back.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Scare you it really People make too much of a
deal about those early few months. Yes, you don't sleep
for a few months, but then it all kind of
evens out.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, and I'm holding on loosely.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
That's that's really my philosophy throughout everybody that I've talked to.
But yeah, sleep, sleep is the number one thing if
you If you can figure that out, you've gone a
long way toward making everything easier, making all the stuff
that we think of as hard, including diet and exercise
and productivity.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It makes it easier when you have your sleep on
a rail.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'm going to go nap right after this.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So he is justin Robert Young his Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
Where could people find your show? Where could they follow you?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Not only everywhere that you get your audio podcasts, including
Spotify and Apple, but on YouTube, YouTube dot com. Slash
at part of Politics Politics Now, a fully video show
that only started about a few months ago. So we're
very excited to bring that to you. The listener of
(28:38):
the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Thank you so much for coming on, Justin, Thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show.
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