July 1, 2024 • 30 mins
Tom Elliott, founder of Grabien, discusses his journey in journalism and the creation of his news clipping platform. He also shares his experience starting a health and wellness business in Spain. The conversation touches on the concentration of power, the importance of personal responsibility, and the need for strength in individuals and society. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markoitz Show on iHeartRadio.
It's been an insane few days, even if you're not
interested in politics. Joe Biden's performance at the debate is
sort of everywhere right now, and it has really shaken
people up. I've heard from kind of, you know, eight
political people. I know that they don't really feel like
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he's in charge, and they're worried about what will happen
to the country. And frankly, some of these people voted
for him, So it's not just Donald Trump voters capitalizing
on a week Joe Biden. It's concerning. I know I've
been beating the analog summer drum a lot lately, but
it gets very easy to spiral. So yes, if you're prone.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To lining awake at night.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Wondering if we're going to get attacked while our president
is weak or something similar, yes you should say a
media break. It's a normal worry. But some people get
to a really bad place with things over which they
don't have much control, and it's a good way to
kind of reset and not stressed out about things. You
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can't help analog summer think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm about to do my yearly Twitter break.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't make an announcement or anything. I just disconnect
for a few weeks. I have some tweets lined up
about the show, just introducing different guests, but other than that,
I'm not going to be on at all. I like
the disconnect. I like to take a few weeks off.
It really helps me. If you're struggling, think about taking
some time off. You'll hear the news if something big happens,
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and you'll do that without immersing yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
In the worry.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Coming up next an interview with Tom Elliott. Join us
after the break.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Welcome back to the Carol Mark With show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Tom Elliott. Tom is the founder
of the news clipping platform Grabian.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Hi Tom, So nice to have you on.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So nice to be here. Thank you, Carol.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So the great.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Majority of my guests that I have on are friends
of mine, but you're one of my in real life,
really one of my best friends. And I'm the founder
and president of the Tom Elliott Fan Club, as you know.
But I didn't think you would do my show because
you tend not to do media.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And another friend of.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Mine, the poker player Shane Schlager actually was like, you
should have Tom Elliott on.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I was ready to.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Pressure you, but you agreed despite lack of pressure. So
why do you not like doing interviews? Why do I
never see you on the media despite your very large,
larger than mine following on the Internet on the Twitter.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, I've worked with actual broadcasting professionals, and I know
that I don't have that gift. I've worked with Glory
and Gram and Peter Scheff, and they've got the gift
to get where you put a microphone in front of
them and just spontaneously they'll be interesting. I think I
have good ideas, but they're better expressed through written form,
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typically where I can really obsess and fine tune everything.
So well, I disagree. You know, since it's your show,
I had no choice but to say yes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's how I want you to see it as having
no choice. So what made you start Gravyan And can
you tell us a little bit about like the path?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Sure? Well, basic synopsis of how I got there was
a very short version. In college, got interested in pre
market economics and conservative politics and started a newspaper called
The Counterweight at Buckenhell University. Gain some notoriety. There was
a New York Times magazine profile about me in the club.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was really positive, right, it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Was very positive about me. If you find it, you
should not read it in fact, but yeah, the guy
definitely had an extra grind against me. But anyway, that
helped me start a career in journalism. So after college,
did some traveling around the world in fact, and then
after that started working at the New York Sun, and
then from New York Sun went to the New York
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Post working on their editorial page. And then Laura Ingram
hired me to be her executive producer, and so I
was working there for many years. And that is a
very difficult job. One of the things that you need
to do is create the sound clips that you play
on the air, and so that required recording the news
pretty much all the time, editing the clips, transcribing them,
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sending them back and forth, and the whole process is
just extremely laborious. And so I was always frustrated because
there were other radio shows that I knew were at
that time watching the Obama speeches or the press conferences
or whatever. But why can't we just kind of like
pool our efforts, Like I don't know, like shows that
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went before us could potentially help us with that, and
so I thought it wouldn't it be great to have
some kind of communal database where all the producers are
putting the clips that they're creating. So the original idea
was to have some kind of market where somebody would
upload a clip and then other people would download it
and there would be you know, commissions, But because producers
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are already overworked as it is, that model didn't really
work perfectly, and instead, what I ended up doing is
hiring producers to clip the news twenty four to seven
so that all these media outlets can instead outsource their
news production to Grabyan. So basically all the major stuff
that's happening every day, we're clipping. In fact, after I
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left the Lori Ingram Show, Peter Schiff hired me to
start a radio show, and so I was working for
him while proposing this idea of Grabyan. Back then it
was called something Different, and he was like, I just
want you to focus on the radio show. Well, I
think it's a good idea, so I'm just going to
do it myself, which I'm glad that he turned it
down because now it's just mine, but anyway, and then
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along the way, so the original model was just having
this database of news clips, and then we started adding
all these tools so that people can create their own
news clips. And so basically now we're recording massive amounts
of news content, so hundreds of live simultaneous news feeds
from around the world constantly every day, and in fact,
just passed three million full length news program recordings. Wow.
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So every day adding news stations and people can tune
in live. Producers can tune in live to any kind
of news feed from anywhere in the country and create
clips in real time. Everything is being transcribed in real time.
And then we also have tools where you can monitor
dozens literally dozens of simultaneous news feeds and and clip
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them all simultaneously as well. So basically everything that was
a pain point when you're producing a media program like
a radio show, we're trying to solve and so still
still adding new things all the time. And that's what
I love about it. It's just like it's a blank
slate that I can just continue to innovate on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So amazing. I mean, I've heard people, you know, rave
about it, call it essential. Obviously, I use it a lot.
I love your everybody loves your compilation videos, kind of
your receipts videos. When when a politician says something and
you're like, well, actually, here are the hundred times you
said something else, or along those lines.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What's helpful, I think is just having a system of accountability.
So it's like politicians kind of count on people to
have a short term memory, so having a very easy
way to access their previous statements is very useful in
trying to hold them accountable. So that's I think where
we can play a role and this participative democracy that
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we have.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So you've actually started a unrelated business. You live in Madrid, Spain,
and you started this business in Spain. Can you tell
us a little bit about it. It's called Biospa.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, so yeah, I've kind of been doing the xpat
thing for a while now. In fact, I was in
DC when we were doing the Petership show in the
Loringram Show, and then moved to Canada for my now
ex wife's company, and from Canada to South Korea and
we're living there for a couple of years. And then
she got hired by a different defense company and moved
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to Madrid, Spain. And when we were there, I mean
ultimately that marriage has ended. And during that process of
trying to preserve my sanity and my health, I decided
to just like fully focus on my health. And I
was already.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You get the sanity right basically, so I was.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Already getting interested. I've been interested in this since we
interviewed you know, Mark System by any chance, he's the
guy that started the primal slash paleo eating movement. He's
the author. He had a Crimal is the name of
his company, I think Primal Foods, And anyway, we had
him on the Leadership show, and when I was researching it,
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I was realizing that everything he was saying made perfect
sense to me. And at the time I was pretty
fat in fact, and had low energy, and he was
talking about eating healthy and natural foods and basically it
will have a lot more energy naturally, and I was like, well,
that's what I need, and so I decided to try
it and immediately noticed that I was feeling better. So
I then went from him into these other health experts,
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I guess like podcasters like Ben Greenfield and Dave Assbrie,
and kind of went from healthy eating into biohacking. And
that's just like started this journey of self optimization. And
so when this divorce happened and I was just like,
I can't allow this to just crush my life. I
decided to spend some money on myself. And the idea was,
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rather than just spend it literally on myself, wouldn't it
make more sense to make it like a commercial enterprise
where if I'm going to buy some expensive machine that's
supposed to optimize your health, make it available for people.
So kind of like a gym where you pay monthly
membership and you can access all of these tools that
are normally reserved for celebrities and professional athletes and stuff
like that. So started out with just some basic things
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like an infrared sauna, which in the United States it's
much more common than in Spain. I was looking myself
for a place like this in Madrid and they didn't
have anywhere with an inpred sauna. And then a cryotherapy machine,
which nowadays is.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Very popular here in Florida.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Now yeah, well now I'm more into the ice bath scene,
but cryotherapy is like the thing that's kind of trendy
and cool, so people are always curious to try it.
And then we've kind of incrementally added more things. So
now I've got something called a biocharger and hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
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and a nice bath and a float tank. I don't
know if you've ever done that, but it's pretty incredible.
So basically, i'll just explain it quickly. It's also called
a sensory deprivation tank. So you go inside and it's
like a giant clam and the water has more than
one two hundred pounds of salt in it, and the
water is your body temperature ninety eight point six, and
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so basically you're floating on the surface because there's so
much salt. And once you get in, there's some relaxing
music that plays, and then you close the clamshell, and
then what you should do is turn off the light.
You don't have to turn off the light, you you should.
And so because there's nothing to look at and there's
nothing to hear, and there's nothing to feel because you're
floating and the temperature is the same as your body,
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your brain has no stimulus to process and so as
a result of that, it's like being back inside of
your mother's womb to your brain instead of trying to
just like process external stimuli is instead repairing itself and
your physical body, and so the end result is like
it's like a very deep meditation process, except we don't
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have to be an expert meditator to get the benefits
of this like profound meditation. Right, So you normally go
in for an hour, but I've heard some people go
in it's like much much longer, like six hours. You
normally go into like a weird trance, and some people
are even like having psychedelic experiences in there, So you
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never really know what's going to happen, but it's it's
something that every time you use it, you get out
feeling much better and you sleep better, you have less stress,
and you just feel more creative and confident. So that's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
How much do you charge for like services like this?
What is it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That is? Like fifty euros maybe, but if you are
friends with Tom then sometimes it's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right if you're Madrid. You know, just just meant but.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say. We also have a machine
called a vaspur, which is pretty cool. I was using
earlier today viber genetics, which is like sound therapy. It's
like this crazy machine that you stand on top of,
and it's it's like a vibration plate that you have
in a gym, and except instead of just a mechanical vibration,
it's actually this massive speaker and so rather than just
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a mechanical vibration, you're being vibrated by frequencies. And so
the doctor that created this machine is into both Western
and Eastern traditions, and so there's all these different types
of frequencies for you know, like fat loss, energy, stress, whatever,
athletic performance, but also more esoteric things like your chakras
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and how are you such a hippie because the hippies
have it figured out what the world needs is good vibes.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So not untrue.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But you know, I remember you showed up in New
York a few years ago with the or ring, right,
and I enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Making fun of you. But like then, everybody had it a.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Few years later, Yeah, everybody copies you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I know. I started the aviator thing too, by.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
The way, aviator glasses.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, that was and then suddenly it became a huge thing.
Also Happy Friday, I started that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh that was you too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, I'm happy I say I started the Free State
of Florida that saying, but you know, I.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can't really prove it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I can't prove any of my statements either make them.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So you have these successful cool things.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, Madred, I don't know if you've heard of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I haven't heard of any of this.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
This is all all well. I could also go off
on the bastard. But the hypoxia is basically oxygen friction,
so you can do it both. I mean the normal
thing is to do it while laying down, and so
it's intervaling back and forth between hypoxia like low oxygen hyperpoxia, which.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is high I don't know. Yeah, this is get.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, because it's like training your lungs to perform at
a higher level so that when you're in a normal,
normoxy estate, your bodily systems are working more optimally.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So think said on the Carol Marko, which show should
be taken as medical advice. Friends, This is all for
informational purposes only.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, good guys, not my fault. I mean the professional
athletes are always training at high altitudes, and so basically
you're replicating that kind of training but in a machine.
And so I will also combine this with exercise so
it's like restricting oxygen while exercising to just get even
more tortured. But the normal thing is not to go
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that far and to instead just kind of do it
while laying down. But that is our latest addition and
I'm pretty into it these days. That's yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
All sounds really really cool. Biospa in Madrid. If you
are in town, go visit. We're going to take a
quick break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
So I wanted to say that you have, you know,
a successful business in Graby and you have another successful
business in Biospa. I know, you have four amazing kids,
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you just had a daughter, and.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do you feel like you've made it? Are you where
you want to be?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
No? I don't. I mean I feel grateful that my
first company, which by the way, took a long time
to be successful enough where I would actually even get
any money out of it. So it was at least
seven years of work. And when I mean work, I
mean like every single day from the morment I woke
up till overnight, and when I was living in Korea,
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I had to do it overnight because I had to
be on the US, like you know, news cycle, and
so I was literally waking up at like four pm
I think, and then going to bed at ten in
the morning something like that, and some total vampire for
two years. It was not that good but NonStop work.
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So it was. It was a hard slog for many,
many years, and there was just in terms of like
looking at the numbers every day, it was always miserable
and there was no reason to think that it was
ever going to work. But finally, after like eight years
of just relentless perseverance, finally started turning around. I mean
it was always growing, but just so slowly, and I
was always just putting more stuff into it. But anyway,
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so now thankfully it's big enough where I am able
to like step back a little bit and have more
freedom and sometimes not work and everything is going to
be soooth sailing for the most part. So I'm very
grateful for that. But in terms of like have I
made it, definitely not, because I have so many more
projects and objectives to go, ambitions I'm always wanting. The
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more I learn, also the more I want to learn,
and so I'm just realizing how little I know the
more I learn, and I am just constantly as soon
as I finish one book, I'm like, oh, now I
need to read this other thing. And the last couple
of years, I've just been on this like obsessive book
reading vendor, and now I'm I can see this going
until my list of objectives is so big. I don't
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think that it's possible to finish before I die. And
I don't think that anybody should ever feel like they've
made it, because once you're in that mind state, then
you become complacent, then you become lazy, then you become useless,
and so you should always be adding value. You should
always be trying to grow and do something new.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I think sometimes people think they've made it and then
they change their minds. It's not always like I've made
it and that's it. But I think that I get
such a wide range of answers on this from all
kinds of people that I feel like I can ask
them two years later and maybe they will have said
that they did have made it, or you know, maybe
they were wrong before, et cetera. But it's funny because also,
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like a thing that we talk a lot about in
this show is how reading reading makes your just life
better and it adds value to it, but then it's
pretty hard to accomplish that. People find it, you know,
hard to find time to read. It's you know, that
kind of thing. But you're like tearing through books. This
is like a thing you're doing.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I think that people making us.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Feel bad, Well, I'm trying to read one fiction book
a month.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Before years ago or three years ago, I was going
at like one book every six months or something. And
then it was because I was reading just the stuff
that I've been reading for a long time, which is
these like classic treaties of philosophy and stuff, and it's
like a sludge to get through, you know, so right,
and then I read some book about like the jfk
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assassination or something. It was one of these page turners,
and I was like, well, I could just read books
that are on and interesting to read. And that just
began this process of like, why don't I just read
books that are like fun to read, interesting And that's
and when you're doing that, then you make time to
read because you're so interested in the content that you're
just like like I would be walking through the park
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carrying a book or you know, walking around the house
reading a book, and you know, it's it's when you
find something that actually engages you that it's hard to
stop reading it, in fact, and so the people that
are not reading books these days are just not reading
good books. Like if you just try a book that
is actually interesting to you and you'll find that, in fact,
it's very easy to read a book. So I recommend
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everybody read more books and use less Twitter.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Okay, I mean I'm going to, you know, ask you
later for your best tip of life advice. I'm going
to assume that that's not necessarily it, but it's a
it's a good additional piece to add that to my book.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, I will.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So you live in Spain, but you write a lot
about or you tweet a lot about American issues. I
guess the question I ask all my guests is is
what do you consider our largest cultural issue? And I
don't know if for you that means in America or
in the world, or you know, however you want to
answer that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, I think it's the same problem throughout the world,
which is this is maybe more of a political problem
than a social problem, but it's the concentration of power,
the centralization of power specifically, so in the United States,
it's such a big country, and it's designed to keep
power distributed at the local level, and unfortunately, over the
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last one hundred and fifty years or so, the federal
government has slowly usurped that power and made it more
difficult for states to retain their power and thus the
people to retain their power. And so the more consolidated
decision making becomes, the more stagnant society becomes, and the
less progress we make. So that is the issue that
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we're dealing with now, and it's hard to fix that
problem because it's hard for states to reclaim power or
the people to reclaim their power, because the politicians are
always very zealously on guard. And so I don't know,
but I mean, I think that you're seeing, especially during
COVID and things like that, that the people that are
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supposedly the experts that we thought we could trust are
some of the least trustworthy people out there. And so
it's become i think, more important than ever for people
to value their freedom and their independence and to try
to preserve their power and take back their power. But
it's one of these trends that it's very challenging to overcome,
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and so in Europe, there's the European Union, and that
is the same kind of thing, where it's making decisions
for an entire continent. And just as an example, I
tried to buy, of course, like a supplement recently in
the College Genius it's called, and so it's like it's
a college in with some random mushrooms that are good
for your brain. And the apparently you can't import it
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to Spain because bureaucrats in the EU have said that
the colleging content is too high, and so it's like
the most absurd thing to me is that, like there's
some bureaucrats that have decided for every single European what
the correct amount of collagen is. And of course you
don't have to put in like a full scoop if
you think it's too much. But that's the kind of
thing that's just annoying, I think, to people. But you
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have to be aware of whenever there's one of these
new international organizations, it becomes very difficult to protect power.
So I think people.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Been so easily, like I don't even think I think
people would just be like, oh, well, the government wants
what's best for me, so obviously I shouldn't be taking
that much collagen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's really it's sad because you see it all the time.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
People are like, well, they must mean well, and you're like,
they really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They don't mean well, why do you think that?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But that is the kind of line that I hear
from And you know, you heard it during COVID all
the time, and you even hear it now.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But during COVID it was like they're doing their best,
They're trying their best, and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Now it's like, well, we didn't know they were using
information out of the time, which no, none of that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I think people are just so complacent.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
How do we like wake people up and say you
should be able to take as much collagen as you want.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't know. I think that ultimately, like right now,
the other problem is that people are expecting some kind
of savior to come and fix everything. So unfortunately, these
trends are completely unsustainable, and I keep expecting that people
will act accordingly. But unfortunately what you see is a
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lot of people looking forward to the next election and
they think, well, if we elect Donald Trump, if we
elect a republic in Congress, then everything is going to
get back on track. But the way that the government
has set itself up is it's going to continue growing
no matter who is in office, and unfortunately, that means
our problems are going to keep getting worse no matter
who wins. And so elections have kind of become the
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bread and circus of the modern era, where people are
distracted enough by the elections to think that this may
be the thing that will help us get back on track.
But unfortunately, the government will be consolidating its power no
matter who wins. So I ultimately I think optimistic. You know, no,
I sound like one of these doesday prepper guys.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But how are you prepping though? Other than the collagen?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I mean, well, I do think that it's important for
people to have actual money, like cold and silver, and
not have dollars because that's the weak link in this
whole chain, and that's the thing that's the.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Government is dependent on for its power. So it's it's
it's just everybody should consider the possibility that one day
the dollar will be even worse or less worth less
than it is today. So just imagine waking up in
your bank account like all the dollars are worth nothing.
What would you do, like, how would you survive? And
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that's I think a useful exercise is to just figure
out how to plan your life so that you're not
so dependent on a system that it's not sustainable. But
as I can see, nobody is really like there are
people that think like this, but unfortunately it's we're still
in the minority, and so the trends are still heading
toward collapse. And so I do think that it's going
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to take a collapse before people realize that the whole
system was the house of cards and the only way
to have, you know, a real life of security and
of personal property and everything is to take care of
yourself and to you know, source food locally and to
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have real money, and to take care of security between
you and your friends and you know, your local community,
but not depend on political actors hundreds of thousands of
miles away.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So that's my I feel like I have to make
a joke about you being so pessimistic, but I actually
agree with a lot of the things that you're saying.
Is it's that you know, taking care of yourself, making
sure that you have kind of a path forward if
everything does fall apart. I think all that is you
know the right thing to do, even if nothing falls apart.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You should be able to take care of yourself and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
If everything goes great, you die and you know, the
dollar doesn't collapse, and you lived a long life and
everything was fine, great, you still have ways of managing
your life that doesn't rely on anybody else.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's not a bad way to be.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yes, absolutely, And I think I mean one of the
other social problems that we have is the infantilization of
the culture itself. So kids are put in these protective
bubbles and just told to focus on how they feel
about everything. When if we want the country to thrive
and to grow and to be strong, then the people
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have to be strong, and so we have to teach
strength and we have to encourage people to choose strength.
So even from when kids are young, I think we
should be encouraging them to do things that are hard
rather than to protect them from things that are difficult.
Piro beats or no, yeah, ice bats is a good thing.
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You know. The Native Americans will put their two year
old kids in the freezing river. I don't know if
they still do this, but you know, back in the day,
they would put a baby in a freezing river just
to get them that cold shock. So one of the
things that does, in fact, is it tones your baguel nerve,
which is like the measures basically the strength of your
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nervous systems. So stronger your bagel tone than the more
resistant you are to stress, and so the more hard
things that you could do. So in general, I think
it's a good life lesson to always choose strength. And
as a culture, I think it's important if we're trying
to raise people that are strong rather than weak and feeble,
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especially because China and these other countries are not focused
on pctimology, and so they are aspiring for global ambitions,
you know, and so they're not going to become scared
because the United States talents like so many victims everywhere,
and I know that's to them. It's no they're they're
they're intimidated by strength, and so we've got to stop,
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you know, coddling everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, Tom, I have loved talking to you. I think
this went a lot better than you expected it to go.
And here with your best tip for my listeners on
how they can improve their lives.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Well, to take ownership, I would say, so take care
of yourself, solve your own problems, don't blame other people.
I mean, there's always there's always going to be challenges,
but if you have a mindset of gratitude and you're
just always thinking about what is positive in every situation,
then it's easier to be happy and to accomplish things.
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And anybody can wallow in their own misery, but you're
never going to solve anything. And so once you get
yourself figured out, then it's easier to take care of
your family. And then once you get your family taken
care of it, it's easier to take care of your community.
And if everybody takes ownership of themselves, then suddenly the
world becomes a better place and we don't need politicians
in the front place.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So perfect, Thank you so much. He's Tom Elliott.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Check out Grabian and if you're Madrid, visit Biospa. And
you know, say you heard him on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Get the Carol discount.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
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Speaker 2 (30:37):
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Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markoitz Show on iHeartRadio.
It's been an insane few days, even if you're not
interested in politics. Joe Biden's performance at the debate is
sort of everywhere right now, and it has really shaken
people up. I've heard from kind of, you know, eight
political people. I know that they don't really feel like
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he's in charge, and they're worried about what will happen
to the country. And frankly, some of these people voted
for him, So it's not just Donald Trump voters capitalizing
on a week Joe Biden. It's concerning. I know I've
been beating the analog summer drum a lot lately, but
it gets very easy to spiral. So yes, if you're prone.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
To lining awake at night.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Wondering if we're going to get attacked while our president
is weak or something similar, yes you should say a
media break. It's a normal worry. But some people get
to a really bad place with things over which they
don't have much control, and it's a good way to
kind of reset and not stressed out about things. You
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can't help analog summer think about it.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm about to do my yearly Twitter break.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't make an announcement or anything. I just disconnect
for a few weeks. I have some tweets lined up
about the show, just introducing different guests, but other than that,
I'm not going to be on at all. I like
the disconnect. I like to take a few weeks off.
It really helps me. If you're struggling, think about taking
some time off. You'll hear the news if something big happens,
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and you'll do that without immersing yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
In the worry.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Coming up next an interview with Tom Elliott. Join us
after the break.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Welcome back to the Carol Mark With show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Tom Elliott. Tom is the founder
of the news clipping platform Grabian.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Hi Tom, So nice to have you on.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So nice to be here. Thank you, Carol.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So the great.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Majority of my guests that I have on are friends
of mine, but you're one of my in real life,
really one of my best friends. And I'm the founder
and president of the Tom Elliott Fan Club, as you know.
But I didn't think you would do my show because
you tend not to do media.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And another friend of.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Mine, the poker player Shane Schlager actually was like, you
should have Tom Elliott on.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So I was ready to.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Pressure you, but you agreed despite lack of pressure. So
why do you not like doing interviews? Why do I
never see you on the media despite your very large,
larger than mine following on the Internet on the Twitter.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, I've worked with actual broadcasting professionals, and I know
that I don't have that gift. I've worked with Glory
and Gram and Peter Scheff, and they've got the gift
to get where you put a microphone in front of
them and just spontaneously they'll be interesting. I think I
have good ideas, but they're better expressed through written form,
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typically where I can really obsess and fine tune everything.
So well, I disagree. You know, since it's your show,
I had no choice but to say yes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's how I want you to see it as having
no choice. So what made you start Gravyan And can
you tell us a little bit about like the path?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Sure? Well, basic synopsis of how I got there was
a very short version. In college, got interested in pre
market economics and conservative politics and started a newspaper called
The Counterweight at Buckenhell University. Gain some notoriety. There was
a New York Times magazine profile about me in the club.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was really positive, right, it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Was very positive about me. If you find it, you
should not read it in fact, but yeah, the guy
definitely had an extra grind against me. But anyway, that
helped me start a career in journalism. So after college,
did some traveling around the world in fact, and then
after that started working at the New York Sun, and
then from New York Sun went to the New York
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Post working on their editorial page. And then Laura Ingram
hired me to be her executive producer, and so I
was working there for many years. And that is a
very difficult job. One of the things that you need
to do is create the sound clips that you play
on the air, and so that required recording the news
pretty much all the time, editing the clips, transcribing them,
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sending them back and forth, and the whole process is
just extremely laborious. And so I was always frustrated because
there were other radio shows that I knew were at
that time watching the Obama speeches or the press conferences
or whatever. But why can't we just kind of like
pool our efforts, Like I don't know, like shows that
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went before us could potentially help us with that, and
so I thought it wouldn't it be great to have
some kind of communal database where all the producers are
putting the clips that they're creating. So the original idea
was to have some kind of market where somebody would
upload a clip and then other people would download it
and there would be you know, commissions, But because producers
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are already overworked as it is, that model didn't really
work perfectly, and instead, what I ended up doing is
hiring producers to clip the news twenty four to seven
so that all these media outlets can instead outsource their
news production to Grabyan. So basically all the major stuff
that's happening every day, we're clipping. In fact, after I
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left the Lori Ingram Show, Peter Schiff hired me to
start a radio show, and so I was working for
him while proposing this idea of Grabyan. Back then it
was called something Different, and he was like, I just
want you to focus on the radio show. Well, I
think it's a good idea, so I'm just going to
do it myself, which I'm glad that he turned it
down because now it's just mine, but anyway, and then
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along the way, so the original model was just having
this database of news clips, and then we started adding
all these tools so that people can create their own
news clips. And so basically now we're recording massive amounts
of news content, so hundreds of live simultaneous news feeds
from around the world constantly every day, and in fact,
just passed three million full length news program recordings. Wow.
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So every day adding news stations and people can tune
in live. Producers can tune in live to any kind
of news feed from anywhere in the country and create
clips in real time. Everything is being transcribed in real time.
And then we also have tools where you can monitor
dozens literally dozens of simultaneous news feeds and and clip
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them all simultaneously as well. So basically everything that was
a pain point when you're producing a media program like
a radio show, we're trying to solve and so still
still adding new things all the time. And that's what
I love about it. It's just like it's a blank
slate that I can just continue to innovate on top
of it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So amazing. I mean, I've heard people, you know, rave
about it, call it essential. Obviously, I use it a lot.
I love your everybody loves your compilation videos, kind of
your receipts videos. When when a politician says something and
you're like, well, actually, here are the hundred times you
said something else, or along those lines.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What's helpful, I think is just having a system of accountability.
So it's like politicians kind of count on people to
have a short term memory, so having a very easy
way to access their previous statements is very useful in
trying to hold them accountable. So that's I think where
we can play a role and this participative democracy that
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we have.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So you've actually started a unrelated business. You live in Madrid, Spain,
and you started this business in Spain. Can you tell
us a little bit about it. It's called Biospa.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, so yeah, I've kind of been doing the xpat
thing for a while now. In fact, I was in
DC when we were doing the Petership show in the
Loringram Show, and then moved to Canada for my now
ex wife's company, and from Canada to South Korea and
we're living there for a couple of years. And then
she got hired by a different defense company and moved
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to Madrid, Spain. And when we were there, I mean
ultimately that marriage has ended. And during that process of
trying to preserve my sanity and my health, I decided
to just like fully focus on my health. And I
was already.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You get the sanity right basically, so I was.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Already getting interested. I've been interested in this since we
interviewed you know, Mark System by any chance, he's the
guy that started the primal slash paleo eating movement. He's
the author. He had a Crimal is the name of
his company, I think Primal Foods, And anyway, we had
him on the Leadership show, and when I was researching it,
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I was realizing that everything he was saying made perfect
sense to me. And at the time I was pretty
fat in fact, and had low energy, and he was
talking about eating healthy and natural foods and basically it
will have a lot more energy naturally, and I was like, well,
that's what I need, and so I decided to try
it and immediately noticed that I was feeling better. So
I then went from him into these other health experts,
(09:44):
I guess like podcasters like Ben Greenfield and Dave Assbrie,
and kind of went from healthy eating into biohacking. And
that's just like started this journey of self optimization. And
so when this divorce happened and I was just like,
I can't allow this to just crush my life. I
decided to spend some money on myself. And the idea was,
(10:08):
rather than just spend it literally on myself, wouldn't it
make more sense to make it like a commercial enterprise
where if I'm going to buy some expensive machine that's
supposed to optimize your health, make it available for people.
So kind of like a gym where you pay monthly
membership and you can access all of these tools that
are normally reserved for celebrities and professional athletes and stuff
like that. So started out with just some basic things
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like an infrared sauna, which in the United States it's
much more common than in Spain. I was looking myself
for a place like this in Madrid and they didn't
have anywhere with an inpred sauna. And then a cryotherapy machine,
which nowadays is.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Very popular here in Florida.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Now yeah, well now I'm more into the ice bath scene,
but cryotherapy is like the thing that's kind of trendy
and cool, so people are always curious to try it.
And then we've kind of incrementally added more things. So
now I've got something called a biocharger and hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
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and a nice bath and a float tank. I don't
know if you've ever done that, but it's pretty incredible.
So basically, i'll just explain it quickly. It's also called
a sensory deprivation tank. So you go inside and it's
like a giant clam and the water has more than
one two hundred pounds of salt in it, and the
water is your body temperature ninety eight point six, and
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so basically you're floating on the surface because there's so
much salt. And once you get in, there's some relaxing
music that plays, and then you close the clamshell, and
then what you should do is turn off the light.
You don't have to turn off the light, you you should.
And so because there's nothing to look at and there's
nothing to hear, and there's nothing to feel because you're
floating and the temperature is the same as your body,
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your brain has no stimulus to process and so as
a result of that, it's like being back inside of
your mother's womb to your brain instead of trying to
just like process external stimuli is instead repairing itself and
your physical body, and so the end result is like
it's like a very deep meditation process, except we don't
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have to be an expert meditator to get the benefits
of this like profound meditation. Right, So you normally go
in for an hour, but I've heard some people go
in it's like much much longer, like six hours. You
normally go into like a weird trance, and some people
are even like having psychedelic experiences in there, So you
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never really know what's going to happen, but it's it's
something that every time you use it, you get out
feeling much better and you sleep better, you have less stress,
and you just feel more creative and confident. So that's
a good one.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
How much do you charge for like services like this?
What is it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
That is? Like fifty euros maybe, but if you are
friends with Tom then sometimes it's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Right if you're Madrid. You know, just just meant but.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say. We also have a machine
called a vaspur, which is pretty cool. I was using
earlier today viber genetics, which is like sound therapy. It's
like this crazy machine that you stand on top of,
and it's it's like a vibration plate that you have
in a gym, and except instead of just a mechanical vibration,
it's actually this massive speaker and so rather than just
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a mechanical vibration, you're being vibrated by frequencies. And so
the doctor that created this machine is into both Western
and Eastern traditions, and so there's all these different types
of frequencies for you know, like fat loss, energy, stress, whatever,
athletic performance, but also more esoteric things like your chakras
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and how are you such a hippie because the hippies
have it figured out what the world needs is good vibes.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
So not untrue.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But you know, I remember you showed up in New
York a few years ago with the or ring, right,
and I enjoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Making fun of you. But like then, everybody had it a.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Few years later, Yeah, everybody copies you.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I know. I started the aviator thing too, by.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
The way, aviator glasses.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, that was and then suddenly it became a huge thing.
Also Happy Friday, I started that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh that was you too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, I'm happy I say I started the Free State
of Florida that saying, but you know, I.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Can't really prove it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I can't prove any of my statements either make them.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So you have these successful cool things.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah, Madred, I don't know if you've heard of that.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I haven't heard of any of this.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
This is all all well. I could also go off
on the bastard. But the hypoxia is basically oxygen friction,
so you can do it both. I mean the normal
thing is to do it while laying down, and so
it's intervaling back and forth between hypoxia like low oxygen hyperpoxia, which.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is high I don't know. Yeah, this is get.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, because it's like training your lungs to perform at
a higher level so that when you're in a normal,
normoxy estate, your bodily systems are working more optimally.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So think said on the Carol Marko, which show should
be taken as medical advice. Friends, This is all for
informational purposes only.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, good guys, not my fault. I mean the professional
athletes are always training at high altitudes, and so basically
you're replicating that kind of training but in a machine.
And so I will also combine this with exercise so
it's like restricting oxygen while exercising to just get even
more tortured. But the normal thing is not to go
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that far and to instead just kind of do it
while laying down. But that is our latest addition and
I'm pretty into it these days. That's yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
All sounds really really cool. Biospa in Madrid. If you
are in town, go visit. We're going to take a
quick break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
So I wanted to say that you have, you know,
a successful business in Graby and you have another successful
business in Biospa. I know, you have four amazing kids,
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you just had a daughter, and.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do you feel like you've made it? Are you where
you want to be?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
No? I don't. I mean I feel grateful that my
first company, which by the way, took a long time
to be successful enough where I would actually even get
any money out of it. So it was at least
seven years of work. And when I mean work, I
mean like every single day from the morment I woke
up till overnight, and when I was living in Korea,
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I had to do it overnight because I had to
be on the US, like you know, news cycle, and
so I was literally waking up at like four pm
I think, and then going to bed at ten in
the morning something like that, and some total vampire for
two years. It was not that good but NonStop work.
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So it was. It was a hard slog for many,
many years, and there was just in terms of like
looking at the numbers every day, it was always miserable
and there was no reason to think that it was
ever going to work. But finally, after like eight years
of just relentless perseverance, finally started turning around. I mean
it was always growing, but just so slowly, and I
was always just putting more stuff into it. But anyway,
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so now thankfully it's big enough where I am able
to like step back a little bit and have more
freedom and sometimes not work and everything is going to
be soooth sailing for the most part. So I'm very
grateful for that. But in terms of like have I
made it, definitely not, because I have so many more
projects and objectives to go, ambitions I'm always wanting. The
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more I learn, also the more I want to learn,
and so I'm just realizing how little I know the
more I learn, and I am just constantly as soon
as I finish one book, I'm like, oh, now I
need to read this other thing. And the last couple
of years, I've just been on this like obsessive book
reading vendor, and now I'm I can see this going
until my list of objectives is so big. I don't
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think that it's possible to finish before I die. And
I don't think that anybody should ever feel like they've
made it, because once you're in that mind state, then
you become complacent, then you become lazy, then you become useless,
and so you should always be adding value. You should
always be trying to grow and do something new.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I think sometimes people think they've made it and then
they change their minds. It's not always like I've made
it and that's it. But I think that I get
such a wide range of answers on this from all
kinds of people that I feel like I can ask
them two years later and maybe they will have said
that they did have made it, or you know, maybe
they were wrong before, et cetera. But it's funny because also,
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like a thing that we talk a lot about in
this show is how reading reading makes your just life
better and it adds value to it, but then it's
pretty hard to accomplish that. People find it, you know,
hard to find time to read. It's you know, that
kind of thing. But you're like tearing through books. This
is like a thing you're doing.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I think that people making us.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Feel bad, Well, I'm trying to read one fiction book
a month.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Before years ago or three years ago, I was going
at like one book every six months or something. And
then it was because I was reading just the stuff
that I've been reading for a long time, which is
these like classic treaties of philosophy and stuff, and it's
like a sludge to get through, you know, so right,
and then I read some book about like the jfk
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assassination or something. It was one of these page turners,
and I was like, well, I could just read books
that are on and interesting to read. And that just
began this process of like, why don't I just read
books that are like fun to read, interesting And that's
and when you're doing that, then you make time to
read because you're so interested in the content that you're
just like like I would be walking through the park
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carrying a book or you know, walking around the house
reading a book, and you know, it's it's when you
find something that actually engages you that it's hard to
stop reading it, in fact, and so the people that
are not reading books these days are just not reading
good books. Like if you just try a book that
is actually interesting to you and you'll find that, in fact,
it's very easy to read a book. So I recommend
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everybody read more books and use less Twitter.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Okay, I mean I'm going to, you know, ask you
later for your best tip of life advice. I'm going
to assume that that's not necessarily it, but it's a
it's a good additional piece to add that to my book.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, I will.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So you live in Spain, but you write a lot
about or you tweet a lot about American issues. I
guess the question I ask all my guests is is
what do you consider our largest cultural issue? And I
don't know if for you that means in America or
in the world, or you know, however you want to
answer that.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Well, I think it's the same problem throughout the world,
which is this is maybe more of a political problem
than a social problem, but it's the concentration of power,
the centralization of power specifically, so in the United States,
it's such a big country, and it's designed to keep
power distributed at the local level, and unfortunately, over the
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last one hundred and fifty years or so, the federal
government has slowly usurped that power and made it more
difficult for states to retain their power and thus the
people to retain their power. And so the more consolidated
decision making becomes, the more stagnant society becomes, and the
less progress we make. So that is the issue that
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we're dealing with now, and it's hard to fix that
problem because it's hard for states to reclaim power or
the people to reclaim their power, because the politicians are
always very zealously on guard. And so I don't know,
but I mean, I think that you're seeing, especially during
COVID and things like that, that the people that are
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supposedly the experts that we thought we could trust are
some of the least trustworthy people out there. And so
it's become i think, more important than ever for people
to value their freedom and their independence and to try
to preserve their power and take back their power. But
it's one of these trends that it's very challenging to overcome,
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and so in Europe, there's the European Union, and that
is the same kind of thing, where it's making decisions
for an entire continent. And just as an example, I
tried to buy, of course, like a supplement recently in
the College Genius it's called, and so it's like it's
a college in with some random mushrooms that are good
for your brain. And the apparently you can't import it
(22:55):
to Spain because bureaucrats in the EU have said that
the colleging content is too high, and so it's like
the most absurd thing to me is that, like there's
some bureaucrats that have decided for every single European what
the correct amount of collagen is. And of course you
don't have to put in like a full scoop if
you think it's too much. But that's the kind of
thing that's just annoying, I think, to people. But you
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have to be aware of whenever there's one of these
new international organizations, it becomes very difficult to protect power.
So I think people.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Been so easily, like I don't even think I think
people would just be like, oh, well, the government wants
what's best for me, so obviously I shouldn't be taking
that much collagen.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's really it's sad because you see it all the time.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
People are like, well, they must mean well, and you're like,
they really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They don't mean well, why do you think that?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But that is the kind of line that I hear
from And you know, you heard it during COVID all
the time, and you even hear it now.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But during COVID it was like they're doing their best,
They're trying their best, and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Now it's like, well, we didn't know they were using
information out of the time, which no, none of that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I think people are just so complacent.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
How do we like wake people up and say you
should be able to take as much collagen as you want.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't know. I think that ultimately, like right now,
the other problem is that people are expecting some kind
of savior to come and fix everything. So unfortunately, these
trends are completely unsustainable, and I keep expecting that people
will act accordingly. But unfortunately what you see is a
(24:32):
lot of people looking forward to the next election and
they think, well, if we elect Donald Trump, if we
elect a republic in Congress, then everything is going to
get back on track. But the way that the government
has set itself up is it's going to continue growing
no matter who is in office, and unfortunately, that means
our problems are going to keep getting worse no matter
who wins. And so elections have kind of become the
(24:56):
bread and circus of the modern era, where people are
distracted enough by the elections to think that this may
be the thing that will help us get back on track.
But unfortunately, the government will be consolidating its power no
matter who wins. So I ultimately I think optimistic. You know, no,
I sound like one of these doesday prepper guys.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But how are you prepping though? Other than the collagen?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I mean, well, I do think that it's important for
people to have actual money, like cold and silver, and
not have dollars because that's the weak link in this
whole chain, and that's the thing that's the.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Government is dependent on for its power. So it's it's
it's just everybody should consider the possibility that one day
the dollar will be even worse or less worth less
than it is today. So just imagine waking up in
your bank account like all the dollars are worth nothing.
What would you do, like, how would you survive? And
(25:58):
that's I think a useful exercise is to just figure
out how to plan your life so that you're not
so dependent on a system that it's not sustainable. But
as I can see, nobody is really like there are
people that think like this, but unfortunately it's we're still
in the minority, and so the trends are still heading
toward collapse. And so I do think that it's going
(26:19):
to take a collapse before people realize that the whole
system was the house of cards and the only way
to have, you know, a real life of security and
of personal property and everything is to take care of
yourself and to you know, source food locally and to
(26:42):
have real money, and to take care of security between
you and your friends and you know, your local community,
but not depend on political actors hundreds of thousands of
miles away.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So that's my I feel like I have to make
a joke about you being so pessimistic, but I actually
agree with a lot of the things that you're saying.
Is it's that you know, taking care of yourself, making
sure that you have kind of a path forward if
everything does fall apart. I think all that is you
know the right thing to do, even if nothing falls apart.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You should be able to take care of yourself and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
If everything goes great, you die and you know, the
dollar doesn't collapse, and you lived a long life and
everything was fine, great, you still have ways of managing
your life that doesn't rely on anybody else.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's not a bad way to be.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yes, absolutely, And I think I mean one of the
other social problems that we have is the infantilization of
the culture itself. So kids are put in these protective
bubbles and just told to focus on how they feel
about everything. When if we want the country to thrive
and to grow and to be strong, then the people
(27:54):
have to be strong, and so we have to teach
strength and we have to encourage people to choose strength.
So even from when kids are young, I think we
should be encouraging them to do things that are hard
rather than to protect them from things that are difficult.
Piro beats or no, yeah, ice bats is a good thing.
(28:14):
You know. The Native Americans will put their two year
old kids in the freezing river. I don't know if
they still do this, but you know, back in the day,
they would put a baby in a freezing river just
to get them that cold shock. So one of the
things that does, in fact, is it tones your baguel nerve,
which is like the measures basically the strength of your
(28:37):
nervous systems. So stronger your bagel tone than the more
resistant you are to stress, and so the more hard
things that you could do. So in general, I think
it's a good life lesson to always choose strength. And
as a culture, I think it's important if we're trying
to raise people that are strong rather than weak and feeble,
(28:58):
especially because China and these other countries are not focused
on pctimology, and so they are aspiring for global ambitions,
you know, and so they're not going to become scared
because the United States talents like so many victims everywhere,
and I know that's to them. It's no they're they're
they're intimidated by strength, and so we've got to stop,
(29:20):
you know, coddling everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, Tom, I have loved talking to you. I think
this went a lot better than you expected it to go.
And here with your best tip for my listeners on
how they can improve their lives.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Well, to take ownership, I would say, so take care
of yourself, solve your own problems, don't blame other people.
I mean, there's always there's always going to be challenges,
but if you have a mindset of gratitude and you're
just always thinking about what is positive in every situation,
then it's easier to be happy and to accomplish things.
(30:03):
And anybody can wallow in their own misery, but you're
never going to solve anything. And so once you get
yourself figured out, then it's easier to take care of
your family. And then once you get your family taken
care of it, it's easier to take care of your community.
And if everybody takes ownership of themselves, then suddenly the
world becomes a better place and we don't need politicians
in the front place.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
So perfect, Thank you so much. He's Tom Elliott.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
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