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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, Welcome to another episode
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I take you over to the board. The NCAA is
trying to run out Kaylin de Boor for the abysmal
performance by Alabama Willie s going one and six, Josh
Pate going three and four, Taylor Luwan going.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Three and four.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We tasted a little blood in our mouth, and two
things happen when you get hit in the mouth. You
wake up in the next morning, you keep going, you
show up and you keep moving forward, or you fold like.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A lawn chair.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Last time I checked, there's no lawn chairs on the
Locker Room. We're talking all ball this week. Boys. We
got the JP pole that just dropped and surprising note
before you go crazy in the comments, he's still got
Texas at number one and the generational talent of Arch
manning at number one. The ap pole drop and we
got a big play the games this weekend. Generational quarterback
Pavia goes on the handle v Tech goes on at
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Virginia Tech. I think that's gonna be a spicy game.
Jalen Daniels generational quarterback. He goes at Miszoo. Battle for
the Border. You got usf going down to face generational
quarterback DJ Lagway. Then you got Battle for the State
Iowa at Rockobeck. That is a generational quarterback boys at
Iowa State. And then the generational quarterback matchup of the weekend.
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You got Michigan and Bryce Underwood, the rising star going
to Norman, Oklahoma. They're known for two things that Sooner
football and tornadoes, a couple of Josh Pace's favorite They
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Speaker 2 (04:00):
It took all of me to stay in control.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, the bleeding that was happening over the weekend for myself.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I can't do it for him.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I thought I was seeing the field, the picks were there,
But I can't get inside their bodies and play for them.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You know what I mean? Now?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
When I say I don't make wrong picks. My picks
are right, except if kids or coaches are officials screw up.
How am I supposed to be responsible for a kid
screwing up or a coach or an official screwing up.
We can't throw the ball for him. We're standing there
at Texas Ohio State. We can't throw the ball for him.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
How do you stay poised and in the pocket, Josh
Pate when we're talking about screwing up of preseason? Josh Pate,
this is maybe you might have said, don't quote me
on this, but maybe this was your quote.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
This is the nastiest Alabama team I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
This is going to be a beyond, far and away
the national champion this year. And then they go and
lay a guse to the point where even the computers
are trying to delete the film.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, well, are you suggesting Week one wasn't nasty?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Week one was.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Nasty, very nasty. Feel like I nailed that one. I
got no clue. I got nothing for you. I got
no clue. We were at the Ohio State game. I
was driving home, so the game's on, but I'm listening
to it. So I'm listening to Joe Tests lay out
a magnificent generational call. By the way, ger three buttons
undone on the button down with the gold chain in
the booth. Unfortunately, production got in his ear and he
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had to button a couple of them, but Alabama came
completely unbuttoned. Yeah, I had no clue that was coming.
That's just a whiff on my part. Now eleven games
left to go, mathematically, and only mathematically. They're still alive.
My predictions still alive, but they got to go to
Georgia in less than a month. So don't feel great
about it right now. But crazier things have happened. Not
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much crazier, but crazier things have happened.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
If we were able to time travel and get back
a couple of weeks where we're making our preseason predictions,
are you still going with Alabama?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
There's nothing that I saw Saturday that made me say, oh,
in retrospect, I should have noticed that, so it would
be the exact same prediction. I'm dead serious.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Like it's something like what two scrimmages you said.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Seeing a practice know the program pretty intimately felt like
all the boxes were checked.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But he sat there, he said, he was sitting with
a scout going who's that there? Oh yeah, he'll be
a first time first. Like you got to understand when
you're talking about the secondary I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
About, so you understand when you go when you go
to an Alabama or a Georgia or an Ohio State
scrimmage or something like this, there are a bunch of
scouts there, a bunch of former coaches, there are a
bunch of former players there. So oftentimes you'll find yourself
standing on the sideline talking to half a dozen people who,
even if you know nothing about.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Ball, you know they know something about ball. Right It
was consensus.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It was everybody saying, this is pretty good looking team
right here, This has a chance to be a really
good looking team. Defense flying around pads, popping, and none
of that was exhibited Saturday. So you either ask yourself,
did your eyes just thoroughly lie to you? Or is
that a one off? But I don't think it's a
one off, because like some of the stuff that they
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showed Saturday is it's not just misalignment, it's not just
dropping a ball. It's it's not just stuff that you
rectify and practice the next week. I don't think, Yeah,
I don't know where.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
They got out coached. They out coached at every single
fast as. There was one drive. They had three different
plays that look the exact same with emotion, which ended
up being the jet that they took the left side
the field all the way down for like a forty
yard rushing touchdown. They set that up multiple times, watching
the safety ships from one side rotate over the linebackers
following the pulling garden tackle. They did that three or
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four times, gaining two three yards and then busted forty
on them.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It was bad cause Jesse Palmer, I think, was doing
color on the game, and I'm not watching it live,
so I'm listening to it live. I've gone back and
watched it later. I've put myself through that several times.
But Jesse Palmer, there's almost this this inhale and depressed
exhale and he goes, Guys, it's the same play they've
already run two or three times. Guys, it's the same play.
I'm just putting it on the telestrator for you. But
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if you've seen this before, it's cause you just saw
it like four minutes ago. They just ran the same
thing again. And I was listening to myself driving down
I sixty five, yelling what's happening? Am I'm missing? You
can't be watching it. That's irresponsible. So yeah, it's like
I don't know the.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Truth to everything that comes out.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
But there are like some tweets surfacing about players having
door dash late at night like one.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
In the morning, sneaking girls in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
One yeah, And if I if I, if I take
that at face value and I connect it with the
effort you see on the field. The only way this
gets turned around is if there is actual player leadership
in the locker room, Like if there's actual guys who
can stand up and say things and everybody kind of
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listens and they start kind of gut checking themselves because
if not, you're gonna you're you're just in this world
where you have a loaded roster four and five star guys.
And if these guys are about their business the way
that face value is and the product that they put
out on film, like, it's just gonna get really bad.
And all these guys are not all of them, but
a lot of guys are just gonna transfer because they're
gonna think it's not them that's doing it there because
(09:01):
their ego is so big, so they're thinking, we're just
going to go somewhere else. But that is that was
the big concern, Like after the Alabama loss and all
the things, Oh Booster sent me this this tweet came
out here and they're trying to get to the bottom
of what's the culture like with the Boor and everything else.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So that was my that's kind of my like, uh
instinct on it. All. Yeah, things are spiraling and tuscaloser
and you don't have a guy like Nick Saban to
kind of everything rained in right right.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm not saying Debor can't do that, but you know,
when Saban's there, if that tweet comes out about you know,
the middle of the night, early morning, like, there's no
question that shit like that. One probably it's probably not true.
You're thinking, oh, this is probably not true because this
is a Nick Saban culture. But number two, he's going
to have this nipped in the buck because you know,
you see it year in and you're out for decades
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that he handles business like that in house, and he
handles it fast and there's player leadership around it. It's
like when that stuff coming out with Kaelin de Boor,
It's like, I wonder what is going to come about this,
because if they don't get it turned around, he's going
to be standing on the sideline having the same kind
of cameos that they were showing throughout the game where
he's just kind of standing there, like, what are we
about to do?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I'll say one thing. One of my biggest takeaways. One
of the things I admired the most about Saving is
that place was a disaster sometimes of chaos behind the scenes,
and you never knew it because they kept winning. And
the point is you're talking about viewing it from the outside,
and it's ultra discipline, and it's ultra buttoned up, and
it's ultra intense, and there's a standard they're playing too.
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What really happened was they understood how to keep the
main thing the main thing because they had trouble a lot.
They had off the field stuff happened due their coaching
staff was in turmoil a lot of the time, and
I used to you get a glimpse behind the curtain,
and what used to fascinate me the most is I
can't believe that this and this is going on with
this program behind the scenes and they look like what
they do on Saturday. But it's cause they kept the
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main thing the main thing. And the one thing that
I noticed that's probably different now than when it was
under Saban is if you ever put the stuff on film,
that some of those put on film Saturday. You'd never
have to worry or fear the opponent. You don't have
to fear Nick Saban. You'd have to fear your guys
in the locker room. Some of the best fights I've
ever seen were Bama player versus Bama player on sidelines
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during games. They're in Georgia about ten years ago. Now
they're up thirty eight to three. They give up a
touchdown and run to Chubb. Chubb had this like one
hundred yards per game streak going, and that touchdown and
run put him over that. And I saw Jaren Reid,
Ruben Foster going at it on the sideline. I saw
Jonathan Allen getting after someone as confetti was falling after
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they beat Clemson in the National Title because they had
given up a garbage time touchdown. Coaches are having to
separate guys. They're up thirty eight three, they're won a
national title. In the other case, the season's over and
guys are about to kill each other if they don't
get separated.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And then you take that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And put it in one monitor, and you take the
other day and put it in the other monitors. Look
at their sideline, look at it does any guy look
scared of the performance that he's turning in. I don't
care about them boosters one am due. People will be
shocked at what happens behind the scenes. It's the keeping
the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Main thing.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Wasn't the main thing there Saturday. That's what I wonder.
Can you just turn a knob? They're still ultra talented,
They still I think, got a good staff, but you
know whatever, whatever getting the main thing back on track
is that knob turn. I don't know if it's as
simple as hey, guys, we had a player's only meeting.
Now it's all going to be good. Now we're focused.
Because if it really is that easy, why didn't you
do it before? And if it really does rectify itself
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and you're a freight train out of control, I'll never
forget that that Week one result was real. It's in
the tank somewhere, So I can't trust you because it
may rear its head down the road. You got to
go on the road again. You got to go to Georgia. Eventually,
you got to go to on the road several more times,
like you're gonna get put in the blender. Eventually you're
gonna be down ten oh in the first quarter again. Eventually,
how do you respond? The only way to change is
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to change it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
One thing that didn't get changed is your JP poll,
the number one that's true team in the country. You
still Texas is still there. I'm not going to say
you still got Texas there because you you're like you're
a separation from the model. Yes, viewers tuning in, explain
the JP the JP poll because again you got Texas
number one generational arm and the arch maning.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Allegedly yes, also explain that layer of separation between your
JP poll and you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oh, The separation is I don't want to blame got you.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
This is your this is your program, this is your thing.
This is just generated a whole bunch of so I.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Partner with the data scientists, like ten years ago, all
we wanted to do was create a predictive model. Every
odds maker has this, It's just that not many people
have shows where they display it. So all we wanted
to do is we wanted to have a predictive based
model that spits out a number on a game, same
as a point spread would be for FanDuel. We want
our own internal number. We use that number against the
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market to bet. Every every odds maker, every handicapper largely
has one of those. So I put it out well,
the public has a portion of the public has no
clue how to interpret that. For example, Texas plays Ohio
State the other day, Texas gets stoned by Ohio State.
Gain them a lot of stuff like that, but they
lose all right. So if I were an AP voter,
I'd clearly have Ohio State ranked above Texas this week.
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But in power ratings, Texas does not fall behind Ohio State.
For one reason, Texas would be a slight favorite on
a neutral field if they played again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I confirmed it with FanDuel, just like with Bama. Bama
is still ahead of Florida State. Bama, according to FanDuel
because I had to hit him up before the show,
would be an eight and a half point favorite against
FSU on neutral field if they played again this week.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now, if that.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Number got put out, you, you me, we could all
bet Florida State. That's well within our constitutional rights. That's
not what the JP poll's about. JP Pole is just
about putting the information out there and then do with
it what you will. And if you don't care about it,
or you don't like it, it's not for you, don't consume it.
But there are a bunch of people who are unhappy
in life out there, as you've noticed, who really love
to rage out on the JP pole. And all I
(14:48):
want to tell that group is, it's not my fault.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Mad at me? All right? Yeah? I love that. I
love that as well. Josh does an incredible job of
weirdly staying bulletproof.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I would not rank Alabama. I would not rank Alabama
this week. They'd be unranked for me. I'd have Florida
State ranked top ten because if I were an AP voter,
I would go solely on your body of work. So
I would I'd make my preseason rankings because I have
to for the AP, but once the season started, I'd
just wipe the slate clean. So like, why would Auburn
not be ranked right now? Why would Georgia Tech not
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be ranked right now? So for all the folks out
there in AP voting land who want to hate on
the J people, well, why do you still have Alabama ranked?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Period? Why should they be ranked? Period?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Conversely, why should Georgia Tech not be ranked? USF beat
Boise Boise was everyone's preseason pick to go to the
playoff from the G five. Will USF beat them handedly?
So why is USF not ranked? So I don't get
the ap logic. Least mine has logic behind it. Even
if people disagree with it and FanDuel backs me up
on it. At least I've got logic behind mine.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you think the ACC is stronger than people think
or the SEC is weaker than people think.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think the SEC is exactly what people thought. I
think Alabama's not what people thought. I mean, Auburn looked
pretty good against Baylor, South Carolina Virginia Tech, like Texas
went and lost to maybe the number one team in
the country. So you remember the other day when we
were doing our season preview and I said, the SEC
is kind of like the Nashville Skyline. There's not a
big skyscraper there, It's just a bunch of pretty tall buildings.
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I think the SEC performed exactly like the Nashville Skyline
would perform. Some teams won, In fact, more teams won
than lost, but there were a couple of high profile losses.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Bama being the biggest one.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
There's no shame in Texas losing to Ohio State. I
don't think that's not something that villifies or justifies the
SEC's claim. Like to me, if you want to talk
about depth of conference, that South Carolina Virginia Tech game
is really good, That LSU Clemson game is really good.
Clemson is the number one team in another conference. LSU
is not preseason, but they go into their building and win.
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South Carolina's probably viewed top eight preseason in the SEC,
top six, top five according to some Virginia Tech's probably
six seven eight here. That's a good comparative matchup, and
you had SEC over that team. So anytime you get
into the it sounds like you're carrying water for the SEC.
It's just telling the truth. There's no logic based conversation
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to be had about the SEC, because people either love
them or they hate them, and either one of those
people is not probably one to trust in a fact based,
logic based conversation. But the point is we're one weekend,
so I still got no clue what the SEC is.
I just think I may know a little bit more
about a couple of teams.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I have both of those people in my body in
my mind when I think about the SEC.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
That's chaos. Yeah, that's chaos.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's like I I appreciate, I respect, I love the
ball that comes out of the SEC. And then it's
a big ten guy. There's things you hate and you
want to see fail about the SEC, but you just
they're just battling at all times up here.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I don't know what to do. He has this tug Awards,
Like do I be unbiased? But I am biased? What's
the game's? Actually? You got a good product? Yeah? I know.
I like this. Yeah, because it's like a couple of
weeks ago, you sat there on the bus and you
said the SEC has more depth and we're all looking
around me, Jack and garyl like, what did you just
that's the last three years.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
That's the the cat that appreciates the SEC speaking right there.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, that's like the other wolf winning for a moment. Yeah,
and then we look at it. Maybe the body of
the SEC is really good, but the head's not so strong.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
What if you just what if we just misidentified what
the head is? What if Florida is the head?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Just ran it?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
What if Oklahoma is the head? We just don't know,
We don't think that. What if there is a dominant team,
it's just not Alabama or Texas. What if it's one
of them.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
What if it's say it for him?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What if it's October is coming? October is coming. Got
Alabama and Oklahoma and October, so the Coctober surprise will happen.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, at least we're feeling a lot better about the
Alabama gain.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
What do you boys make of the generational quarterback comments
and all the slender everything? The world was on fire
during and after the Texas Ohiose State game talking about
arch Manning.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Josh and I were having a conversation right before you
did the electric intro that Jerry wanted to jump in
in the middle of is like, well off. She came
in and said, arch Manning played against a really good
defense and that's why he was bad. Well, if that
is the logic, then arch Manning is a bad quarterback.
But I don't. I don't agree with that at all.
And I think early in that game, you watch arch
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Manning when he has a lot of time as offense
line is giving a lot of time, and he chooses
not to use his legs, and I think that, like
it was so apparent to me that it seemed like
that was a coach thing to do before the game,
Like Josh was saying, like, this's a seventeen game season,
don't use your legs if you don't have to personally
for me, first play the game set him up for
an easy completion at sure. Yeah, I think if they
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go back and play that game, Arch starts with his
legs a little bit sooner tires out that defense East
to West Kinlin they did versus Michigan, and it opens
up for them a little bit more. But there was
no sustained drives really except for a couple in the
second half. They went for a fourth down on their
first drive, they got that, they went for it again,
didn't get it. So it's like there's a lot of
things that could have gone Texas's way. I think Arch
Manning had a bad day, but it doesn't mean he's
like not who we think he is, which is he's
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still a Manning, still the first overall recruit in his class.
I think he's going to be all right. It's just
a bit of a I think it's a shock for
everybody because I think we all sat here last week
and we're like, Texas is going to be the team
we all picked Texas in hof State stood up and
showed that their defense and Matt Patricia had no problem
transitioning from NFL to college and showed a bunch of
different variety of defenses that really mess with archshead.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I'm pretty sure that I heard a lot of people
after the game screaming about how overhyped arch Manning was
and how they're tired of the arch hype. Who participated
in the arch hype? Now, I don't consume a whole
lot of generic like national college football media, because I
don't want it dis weigh my own opinion. So I
was telling you I was a little bit out to
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left field when so many people kept saying, Oh, everyone
thought he was a generational quarterback, this and that. I
don't doubt people called him a generational quarterback. I just
think the crowd that's yelling he's not a generational quarterback
at the crowd that labeled him a generational quarterback, that
crowds way bigger. One outrage today is way bigger. I
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know some people hyped him up, but like we were
on this show, when we were doing the preview, even
you asked me, what are your expectations for arch Manning?
I said, I think he's going to be really good.
I don't think he's generational. I don't think he's elite.
He's not my heisman favorite or anything like that. I
thought that was fair. He still may be all those things.
By the way, he may be better than I thought he.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Was bulletproof, but he's not. I did not throw the G.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Word out there. I did not go generational, so to me,
when I watched what happened the other day, I didn't
get the outcome I thought I would. To be very clear,
I thought Texas would win the game. I didn't think
Texas was going to win the game because Arts was
going off for three point thirty. I thought it was
going to be a complete rock fight and they'd come
out on top because they weren't the team replacing both coordinators.
I did think they have an edge at quarterback, so
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by that metric, I was very disappointed. I thought they
had the motivation edge like those things didn't pan out.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I don't know. I just listened.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I kept on seeing clips afterwards of all these national folks,
a lot of whom don't not Orlowski, but a lot
of these folks I saw yelling about college football don't
normally talk about college football, so I know good and well,
if they've taught college football the last six months, it's
probably been Arch Manning. And now their big takeaway is
I'm tired of the arch hype, which they.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Probably contributed to that. Fine, just what are we? You
know what?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It was good to see you guys. We'll see you
come playoff time.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
When I feel like the domino effect because again like
I'm taking whatever, Like you see him as the favorite
for the Heisman, so I'm like, oh, it seems like
he's going to be a really good quarterback this year.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm picking picked the Leonora Sellers for the Heisman.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But it's like the person in you seeing Arch Manning
having the interview with Peyton Manning, knowing that they keep
them away from like he's on a bunch of commercials,
but as far as like doing it seems like it's
a kid with a good.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Head on the show.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And so like, oh, wow, he's the Heisman favorite, like
he must be the real deal, even though the body
of work, like has he really to be seen whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And then as you're watching the game and you're like.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh, man, yeah he's missing some throws here, he's inaccurate
all these things.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, it's a massive stage.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
For a week one going into Columbus, all the hype
behind him or premature hype, whatever this hype is that
we're speaking about. Then, as the game's going on and
you start seeing the memes and just internet culture seeing
an opportunity. Again, it's not even really about the player,
it's about everything else that goes on. The white black stuff.
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You see Shader Sanders being brought up in these conversations
when people are trying to argue.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So you know, right there, when we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That stuff, I'm kind of chuckling and it's like, here
we go. You know what this is becoming to be about.
But I see Orlowsky tweet imagine having a generational quarterback
and keeping the training wheels on him for the entire game.
That tweet starts going crazy, and I feel like that's
a that's a domino effect that got some of the
other figureheads talking about it, because then you have something
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you have. I think it was Jamil Hill, Jamal Hill,
Jamil Jamal Hill, Jamel Hill. There you go, Jamel Hill.
She's like, Oh, what's it? What are the what are
the characteristics of a of a generational quarterback, getting that
everybody watching knows what I'm talking about, getting that fetestering going,
Which is.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
So funny because people love to throw generational quarterback around,
but in a minute, it's like someone's like, well use
it as a general quarterback that didn't play well. It's like, well,
what is a generation? A generational? Everybody's generational until like now,
all of a sudden, we want to nitpick it. Ars Manning.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know why they call him a generational talent because
he's got the complexion for the protection.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
We're having the North sellers of here, I don't know
what you're talking. People out there making it come back.
They're making it come back.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That was kind of my whole breakdown. Like I think again,
it's a it's a it's a coach is for forever.
You're never as bad as they say you are. You're
never as good as they say you are. This is
one where they're all going to watch the tape. I
loved watching his presser where you every time you see
a quarterback taking the podium, you ready to see if
he's going to take accountability or how is he going
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to answer questions and him saying like it starts with me.
You know, I enjoy seeing that out of a player,
because that is how it starts if you are an
individual player, like grading yourself, not trying to blame anything
at all.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It was you know, it was loud, It was this.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
We had a tough game. We didn't convert. Here you
saying it starts with me. I need to play better.
Watching a player say that, I respect it. I think
he's going to be just fine. I think Ohio State
people didn't talk about that defense enough. It's mostly about
beating down arch Maning. I think Ohio State their defense
is the real deal. Their second level flies to the football.
They got arguably the best player in college football with
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Caleb Downs.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Matt Patricia. We said it on Busting with the Boys.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Forgot that this dude's used to game planning for the
likes of Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Burrow preparing for
super bowls, and that that defense does a really good
job of taking away things. We're not going to let
them beat us, beat us with this guy or with
this scheme.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Patricia did a great job. O Hostate's defense did a
hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, I feel like it was just that was a battle,
and it was a week one battle, some sloppy play,
misconversions on fourth down like.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It was week one, Week one game.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It was a week one football game against two juggernauts
that are figuring out who they're gonna be. I thought,
I keep saying Justin Sayings, but it's not Julian Sayans,
because every time I watch them all his name's Justin Sayings.
I'm just waiting for the just saying after that to
go that, to go global. I'm kind of getting off
track here, but I thought he did a I thought
Julian Saying did a really good job as well for
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his first start.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It was a fun game to watch, low scoring, and
I sit there like I should have known.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
This was gonna be an undergame. Should have known. I
feel like we I play from now on like the
plan is Week one, we go under. Week one, big
games go under. That's it. No more, no more should
needs to happen. I do love that you Bibible host
because there's been so much conversation around Texas and they're
down falls as a team. But like Texas, the defense
is incredible, but that offensive line, like that that clip
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that you posted on Twitter of that double team moving
into the second buddy had his foot playing. They stand
it out, I better take me at Keynes inside and everything,
and they just put the kid on skates and moved
him back like truly football porn. You get that. You
go six to midnight in an absolute hurry watching blocking
like that, which is you know, obviously I'm wearing the
colors I'm wearing, but in Ohio States, they're they're kind
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of they've been shot out for being not the toughest
team in the world. But to see them rogu gradding
like that, it's like that, that's fucking big temp.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
When I I had that clip pulled up, Savannah walks
behind me. She sees it, she said, because she picked
Texas to win the game. She goes, that's what I'm
talking about. How do you prevent that? How do you
stop that from happen? I said, that's physics.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You watch that's exactly right, And it's like, if you're
able to do that consistently, you're not going to lose
a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I felt stupid to go back to the Matt Patricia stuff.
When you look back on a pick, you got to
pick wrong. One of the things I just on within
that game is I didn't respect Matt Patricia enough. I
didn't respect immediately the impact he was going.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
To Detroit Lions. He goes becomes the head coach of
the deshort Lions, and he didn't have a good time there,
Like he didn't do well, And I think that's what
everyone was like, Ah, we're done with him.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And it's like then they got him call an offense
with the Patriots when he goes back to the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But yeah, same yeah, same thing. It's like, I'm such
an idiot. Yeah, it's like the most overlooked thing that
should have been the most obvious to all of.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Us because they lost a high level coordinator in Knowles
and that was a big story, not so much who
they backfilled him with, which I'm supposed to pick up
on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So I blame myself. People can the people definitely not
forget about the model.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Forget about the model and yeah that's so I'm sorry, Matt.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We take some picks, I feel, do we feel is
anything else we need to cover? As far as he listen,
they also want to apologize.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Uh, Nebraska did not cover I got everybody, I got
a lot of d ms telling me they they rode
with covering.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That is on me.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You do have have to know if you're new to
the show, you have to know that your boy gets
really spiced up for some Nebraska football. I like, you
take take them money lines and some parlays. But you
know what, I am my iPad Game of the Week
Notre Dame. Miami whipped on.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That one too. I can't play for the old line
out there, old line, which is kind of heartbreaking, gold helmet.
You're like, how are they gonna protect uh CJ. Carr?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Get him going a little bit? They're gonna lean on
the old line. Whereas I'm watching the game and it's like,
oh CJ. Carr has got some stuff to him. The
old line, I feel like it's letting him down.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Especially that last drive. I mean, there was like reports
the Sale reporter some about how they're throwing up in
the corner. There are light gold pants for very dark gold.
Towards the end, you see them huffing and puffing and
Miami fans have fun. I don't know if those Miami
defense vends are just eight generational talents. They seem generational
based on those last two plays of the game, because
those wide receivers. They whirling dervish dude, he was out
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there spinning around.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He had no idea was that's not a bad player.
That's not a bad player either.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Ruben Bain was like a rubber band that had been
pulled the whole game and then that last drive. They said,
where do it go? Yeah, you just let it go?
Who does what tackle in the country does anything about that?
Who's dealing with that? Yeah, I don't know, y'all can
pick the best one.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm just saying I think he's going to struggle going
one on one against four in a fourth quarter in
a pressure situation. That dude hasn't been healthy his whole
career and he is right now. So you also mentioned
when you think about o Lion, you think of that
Golden Dome. May think about that this year. Yeah, because
that that's not a bad offense.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
The disrespect, the emotion in his voice after the game,
you could tell, like those last eight months it was
not just the injury that affected him, and it was all
the noise. So we said it like you're leaving a
place for a girlfriend. This was crazy. He's done two
years ago. We've got a Lambeau. We had your generational
two years ago. You're not generational anymore. Hey, so now
he's generationalation?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, I mean, come on, now, he's one enough, he's got.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
To be there. I think at this point it's safe
to say there are more generational cornerbacks than there are not.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
We've never seen in the modern era. I don't think
we've ever had this many generational cup Do you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Think it's now? If you're a bad quarterback or generational, I.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Think you've got a path to be a generation Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think if you're good, it's like that's you're bad.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You're mid're knocking on the door being bad, that's what
you're generally.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I do think we can all agree on this is
going to This is a generational college football season because
it's wide.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Open, and I think it's going to remain that way too.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
First game, Yeah, generational quarterback Pavia Diego. Pavia goes out
to Virginia Tech Vandy. We get all of our odds,
we get all of our data, we get all of
our stuff from the Fanduels sportsbook. Vandy is the underdog
in this game. Virginia Tech favored by minus one and
a half. The over under on this game forty seven
and a half? Boys, what do we like here?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I think Virginia Tech isn't what I like to call
wounded animal mode, pure desperation mode. After that Week one game,
I think they probably played a little scrappier to use
a memalism than people expected them too against South Carolina.
Like people look back at that South Carolina game Week one,
South Carolina ended up covering, needed the special team score
to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
They had to their way to the win, and I.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Think most people look at it and say, oh, boy, man,
I think I think South Carolina just struggled a little
more than I thought they would. Maybe Virginia Tech had
something to do with that. So now they come back home,
that entire coaching staff knows their coaching for their jobs,
and they know what happened last year with this game,
and so they this.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Is this is like a revenge game. I was seeing
a couple of quotes from the players like this one
circled for them.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Vandy's got a few of those this year that they're
going to participate in.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, very unfamiliar talking that shit.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
But he looked good in that Week one he did
he did?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I actually think, yeah, but who they play like. He
was routes on there out there. He still still in
the right place. He got himself, he was being shifted.
He did his thing. He did Diego Pavia the best
way too. Pave does Diego Pavia beg the generational tunt, Yes,
but it was still like there's a lot of schools
where we're talking about today that played the school to
deafen the blind, and Vanderbilt is not exempt from that.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I need a generational performance from Kyen Drones and I'm
not gonna get it. But I don't actually need that.
I need enough from him. I think Virginia Tech's gonna
ugly out of win here. I actually think they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
They are. I'm gonna lay the one and a half.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm gonna take Virginia Tech to win and cover revenge
spot a couple of them this year for Vanny, the
first one they fall in.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I like, I like a couple of get to it
because it's one of the other. I feel like, you
can't lose both.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
That's correct, that's gonna lose both. Well, the generational quarterback
wouldn't would never never.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like two things in this game. I like the
over more than I do pick in the game over
forty seven and a half. And to me, the X
factor is a gentleman we know very well, and it's
Kate McConnell.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Cade McConnell's the X factor in this game. Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
And I'll be damned if they're getting their first tests
of the season and I'm not back in the boy.
I'll have you a two friends of the show. But
Kay McConnell, he was an intern here of Summer Boy,
of the show and generational offensive fuck talent right there.
Kayden McConnell, he's the X factor in this game, and
I'm taking I'm taking Vandy, like the over more than
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I do pick in the game. But if I'm picking
the game, I'm going Vandy money line.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I love how you touch on the over. I like
the over as well, and I will also be going
a Vandy. Something about Diego Pavia, something about Kate McConnell,
something about Kate McConnell. Like, Kay, so was it Tuesday?
It might've been too, Yeah, yeah, it was yesterday. Today's Wednesday.
Kate texts me, He's like, what is your weekly routine
when you're in the football season. We get on the
phone we talk about the entire routine. He's like, I
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am not missing the step this year. And I was like, hey,
whatever you do, make sure you do it consistently, but
don't put too much on your plate. This is the
team that's re energized. This is a team that packed
out a stadium with their own fans in Week one,
like people actually screamed us, where the other team actually
had to go into a silent cadence. They got something
going on here in Nashville, Tennessee. And I'm not going
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to be the guy to jump up bandwagon when I
jumped on the bandwagon when they played Virginia Tech last
year in Week one and ended up going to overtime,
big dub and the and the bet for that one. Yeah,
I'll be going Vandy. I love Diego, I love Cad Moore.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm taking them for everybody hearing the applause that happened
when I said, Cad McConnell, that's how good of an
intern and how close he got with the.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Boys during his two months. That's how you know this
is a Cad McConnell game. You spoke to him. They're
winning the Natty. Yeah, well we pumped the brakes with him. Hey,
we were literally I looked at him and go, hey, listen,
you're in it. I'm gonna tell you right now, he's
not gonna win the natty disrespect. But like you just
got to be able to zoom out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
But with the strong performance of week one, whether it
was against an elementary school team, it doesn't matter the
fact that they're they put the they put the pedal
to the medal. I'm going to ride with them in
their first big test at Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Another reason why I like Vanderbilt in this Vanderbilt has
had one extra day of rest compared to Virginia Tech.
Virginia Tech wasn't a nail bier. They got beat up
a little bit by South Carolina and the offense line,
defensive line, they have less time, I just think. And
also Vandy played you know one and a half quarters,
like those boys are fresh and they always seen My
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third mid season form against Ginia Tech starts off, Oh
and two generational VA. You think he's getting a hook?
They do?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
The fan are the fan base does? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
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(36:41):
go ahead? Yeah? Kansas at Missouri. Kansas is underdogs by
six and a half points. What else? What's the game over?
Fifty and a half points. I need you to juice
that game better. That crazy someone opened the door. If
we put the little thing in the sign, you put
up a sign that said do not come in. Fill
me in progress. You just give a little better. That's
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my fault. I got distracted. Aause a light shine in
my face. Just now I had a lightsh on my face.
The battle of the board of the first time these
two teams have met, Kansas is at Missouri Missouri first
two teams they've met since twenty eleven. Since twenty eleven,
Kansas at Missouri, Missouri is nine and one at home
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in their last ten games. Missouri is favored by six
and a half points. The total in that game is
fifty and a half. Will Compton, We'll start with you,
and also thank you for letting me do this great work.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Because the way you did that, I'm like, this is
a this is a Midwestern battle rights. These teams haven't
got to play. You said it is twenty eleven, buddy,
the rivalry dates back to slavery.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Okay, I was gonna, I was gonna ask I read that.
It's like I literally read that. This is pretty much
to say it's the oldest coast. I'm thinking of myself.
So you're telling me the North of the South had northyt.
We gotta figure out this football game real Quick's the
crazy decent teams, the fan bases, they're ready to go. Yeah,
so I did.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You're like, you know, Kansas is six and a half
point underdogs, Like, hey, no, US pissed me.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Off a little bit. I got distracted by add kicked
off in a bad way. Go ahead, comp I love.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
The over in this game, love the over at fifteen
and a half. I also like, I love Jaylee Daniel.
I think he's a healthquay, He's a generational quarterback, Jaalen
Daniel and I just at the end of the day,
I think Missoo's deeper. I think they're faster. I love
what drink Kas going on there. He has a good
culture there. This is a team that's been a double
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digit win team the last two years. And if you
look on the Kansas ade, another reason I like the
over there. There's gonna be points in this game. Jalen
Daniel unless he gets injured, you're not gonna be all.
You can only hope to contain him. But Kansas has
some second level injuries going on at the linebacker spot.
I see that Massoo exposing them a little bit more.
But again, I just think that the roster overall is deeper,
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faster than what Kansas has played thus far. It's gonna
be kansas first big real test. Same with Missoo as well.
But I like I like Missoo in this game minus
six and a half, but I love I like missoom
minus six and a half.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I love the over. Can we can I ask
you a question? A lot of over talking the first
two picks of this game. Yeah, from you essentially being like,
hey make sure you put that in my record this week,
or we're just doing pick onps for the season, or
would you like the over to be a part of
your record. Oh I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I was just when I'm looking at the games, I'm like, gosh,
how do I figure out? How do I find the
way and fine picks that I love during these because
the six and a half points here at missoo, it's
a little it's a little scary, like Kansas could pull
this one off.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
They could definitely cover because you're again you're late.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
You got six and a half there, uh so, and
then I see the fifty and a half, I'm like,
these offenses are going to score down. You get a
week under your belt, Kansas a couple of weeks under
their belt.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
We're gonna have some points. So that's why I love
the over. But you're asking me record wise, Yeah, I
got a total.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'm gonna fire on later and I on on my record. Okay,
so I think we should count. I think you just
have to make a pick on the game.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, make a pick of the game. But if you
feel as struggling as you do, we could be like, hey, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Like you want my official pick to be the total
on this game, so me, my total should be the
pick on this that's what you're most confident in that's.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
What I'm most confident in over fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I just want to know, on a side note, after
everything went under last week, where's the confidence coming from.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's Week one football, the assholes, everybody in the film room.
There's an urgency that always comes out of week one
to where, Hey, I told you we're not shit. We
got to get the offense going.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Here. You put us in the bats final special team's defense.
That's why we need you to do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Johnson number zero, the linebacker from South Carolina, this is
why you fall down in the end zone when you
pick the ball off. You're not ed read, you're not
taking it a hundred back to the house. You pin
this on the one or two yard line. We got
a safety that kept Virginia Tech in the game. It's
stuff like that, the urgency of coaching that happens going
from week one to week two to where everybody's dialed in,
focused and they're they're they're just they're more locked in
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on what the game plan is going to be and
how to execute. And I feel like players get more
hyper aware of situational football than just you know, going
out there and trying to execute on week one, because everybody,
you're fired up, your jitters, your butterflies, a little fear
in your mind.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I got to get the first head out of the way.
Am I? Who am? I? Who?
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I think I am? All that stuff going through your mind.
Now you hone it in a little bit more. You're
a little bit more aware of the game schematically. That's
why I like points in week.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Also, coaches, they all live in this kind of the
same world, but only the paranoid survive. So when you're
ten to fifteen days away from your first game, you
start implementing, Hey, we're gonna start doing These are a
couple of runs we like against this team. This is
what we kind of like if we're looking to this
big game. We have a week two. So in a
lot of ways, you're overpracticing, You're over watching film, you're
over being nitpicky on details of how running run games
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should go, motion shifts, all these different things to where
you get to the game, and a lot of times
which you said, buttholes get a little tight. So now
you're having that conversation be like, yeah, we ain't shit, boys,
we gotta let it loose. Now you have a short
window to go prepare for these bigger games. That's when
you can see the athletes start to become athletes and
not think so much about and coaching wise too.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
To your point, you're throwing a lot of different maybe
concepts at the wall for week one, and then you're
figuring out what you're good at for your players and
what they do with So I feel like that stuff
starts to get tightened up.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
And that leads me into why I like Missouri because
you have Bobula Pabula and Sam Horns. They're kind of
going back and forth and the whole Like you know,
the old college football verbigion is if you have two quarterbacks,
you have zero quarterbacks. If it's very ununfortunately what happened
to Sam Horn, I'm having a lower leg injury. You
don't like that at all. From a if I'm like
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taking all emotion out of it. I'm looking at bo
Pabula seeing kind of what he did at Penn State
before he transferred. They used him in the same way
that they used Will Levis, like kind of like that
running quarterback, you can move around. He was situational, but
they're in this battle back and forth. So you're essentially
implementing multiple game plans for Sam Horn who has this
certain set of skill sets, and then Bo Pabula, who
has a different set of skill sets. Now you're going
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into this Kansas game, be like, hey, we know this
is our quarterback. We know this is his strength, we
know this is weaknesses. Not to mention you have a
defense coming back that has nine guys coming back. And
he also brought Damon Wilson over from I believe it
was Georgia, right, he had two sacks in their opener.
Missouri has always been like a sneaky, like good team,
like I said it in at the opening, Like they're
nine and one in their last ten at home, Like
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their record at home is much better than their record
is away. I like Missouri a lot in this game.
I love the over as well, because I think that
Jalen Brown kid is going to be is going to
be a stud. The big knock on him was like
a you know, accuracy issues but also injury issues. Well,
he's healthy and he's got a couple of transfers from
Alabama and other places that he's gonna put points on
the board. But I like Missouri to pull this one
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out and cover Jalen Brown. Generational quarterback. I think it's
without question agreed.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, Len Daniels. Yeah, I'm gonna get his last name right,
but I'm gonna say he's probably generational.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
He is probably generational, But it's Jalen Daniels Brown.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
First name is fine.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
It's from an idiots. Yeah, but you guys get Kansas
quarterback right, Kansas quarterback. He gets slung it. Yeah, I'm
trying to give me a dick Joe Connest. He's coming
out of blood that didn't play. I'm sitting there looking
over at club like, is he Joy's nuts? Jay, get
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you on a dig Joe before the show's over. By
the way, I thought you're not exempted anymore.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I know, Okay, Yeah I fumbled. I fumbled. I fumbled
the I don't even know what I was gonna say.
I love Kansas in this game. They were my dark
horse in the Big twelve. Yeah, this is why I
dive on these games a little bit, because the more
I dove, the more I realized I think Missouri is
going to tilt this game. Hate the linebacker situation with
Kansas banged up. Don't love the green nature of their
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offensive line going into this environment. Really fast defense Missouri has.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
To athletic, long fast.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think quarterback run is going to be huge for
both sides. Actually, I think Pribulah I think you had
sixty five on the ground last week, but it was
a Central Arkansas. But I think he will probably end
up grabbing people's attention to tune in to watch Jaylen
Daniels run the ball and they'll say, wow, that that
pribula kid can run the ball a little bit too.
I actually think Missouri is gonna win and cover. I
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do like the over, but my pick is gonna be
Missouri minus the points.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Love that, so we're all on Missouri. We're all m
I z z ou. I might have to change. Yeah,
I don't change, dude, separate from the pack. No, not
this game. Mine's the over like Missou. But I love
the over. So you're taking Here's what I don't. Here's
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where I want to take a step back on the
overtalk and the pick them talk. The records are gonna
get all fucked up, like, like what if we have
like a pick them record and an over under record.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I think you got the way you guys do it
is if you love like like Will saying, I love
the over.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
That's his pick then, Like, but I like Missoo.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Because they're still picking these games.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
They're all sitting around minus one ten, minus one twenty
odds when we're picking these games.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
So like Will loves the over and that's his pick
for the Misoo game.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Like Willy B.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Personally, I'm still going to bet missoom mynsex will be
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
That's what my dad called me growing up. Willy Be there.
But you can't just start telling Willy Brown cousin of
Jaylen Brown. I'm like, my man forgot his last name.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
He's he's a blood now apparently was apparently a gorilla
at a zoo that was named Willy B.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And my dad just yeah Atlanta z Yeah, yeah, I
knew him well.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I met him well, I went to see I went
to the zoo to see.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I met him.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Being agreed with Billy By and then they had a
baby and they handed out a bumper stickers and said
will he be a boy or a girl?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I had that on my bike. I know I know
about Willy Be has nothing to do with the show,
but things one good for that monkey and two good
for Will's brain because I.
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Speaker 1 (47:28):
This one, I have chalked up South Florida at Florida
again Generational Quarterback and DJ Lagway. Florida is favored by
seventeen and a half. The over under on this game
is fifty five and a half. My only note on
this game is Josh Payt game. Nobody saw the boys
more clearly, Nobody saw usf more clearly than Josh Pat
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did last week. So my only note Josh Payt game.
I'll let you boys, take the floor, and I'm just
gonna ride with wherever he's gone.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
You're not sick shit, Yeah, the US I'm honestly, I'm
gonna sit. I didn't do shit at work for this.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
They preparing a guys stand. I like DJ Lagway and
the Florida Gators. Seventeen and a half seems to be
like a lot of points and you see a whooped
that ass on?
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Boys, you watched it? Did you watch the game? Which
one you see versus Boissey State? I watched clips of
the first half. Yeah, okay the game. The score does
not reflect the game. It was ten. It was ten
to seven before that fake punt happened. And buddy, let
me tell you, Uh, Boise State's defensive line was swallowing
USF officer. I'm talking Bonnie Blue swallowing them up. They
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so we like Florida. We love Florida. I'm talking about
like he had no chance to breathe. Now, this cat
brought Brian Brown. Am I saying that? What? Good? Try? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
No, that's actually no.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
You could bury this nig away. Dude. You're trying to
give me hey kids show. But oh you're right. I'm
on edge. I started about Bonnie Blue and the whole thing.
Like listen, USF's offensive offensive line was getting absolutely destroyed
that entire game. The quarterback for USF, I will not
say his name because I'm worried about getting got right careful.
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That kid is a like He not only runs hard,
he's like a heat seeking messle when it comes to contact.
He was looking for Boise State secondary guys, wanted to
put them in the ground before he rushed for a
billion more yards. I love his heart, I love what
he is for college football. But DJ Lagway and the
Florida Gators are going to stomp that ass in the one.
That's what's happening seventeen and a half. Can you sell
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me better than that?
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Kid's name's Byron Brown? Okay, So I said no, I
just wanted to go. I wanted to swerve it just
a little bit. You tried to get because I thought
if we just swerve the pronunciation a little bit, that
was my end. Yeah. USF's going to cover here somehow.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
By the way USF is going to They're.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Gonna cover here somehow. Yeah. Actually, so what you're saying
is true, Like that game's not reflective. Last week of
how it went with Boise.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
But I also, how do I know that?
Speaker 3 (49:54):
I just saw USF's peak performance in week one two.
Maybe they've got room for improvement. Florida's got some big
ones on deck. They got a trip to LSU and
a trip to Miami coming up, and everyone knows it,
and everyone's gearing up for it. This is a game
you get out of healthy. And I'm not saying that's
what their mentality is. I'm saying that's kind of how
the game ends up playing out. To me, it's about
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a half a point too many, thirty seven to twenty
something like that. Yeah, I'm good, comfortable Florida win. I
think USF comes in under the number, though I'm taking
them to cover.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Couldn't disagree more. Jake Slaughter that offensive line. Jake Slaughter
is a center for the Florida Gators. Yep, there's rumors
sworn around the Florida Gators, Joe Moore Award rumors, Djlagway's
going to sit back there USF's defensive line. I don't
know if it was the camerangle, if they had them
boys on point five or what, but they looked like
a bunch of string beans out there. They looked like
they were not there to play D one football. They
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seem like linebackers and safeties. They're smaller. They're going to
get owned in the trenches. DJ's going to sit back there,
take a nap, have a cup of tea, wake up,
and throw for a two hundred and fifty yards no problem,
three touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
JP Poll Top ten team Florida j.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
People gotta have it, and I don't people number one
team in the country Texas.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
This should be good this week too, it should voting
Baylor would be off my top twenty five.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Also on me, one of your points being Florida has
like a bunch of big games in their schedule and
it is the biggest thing revolving around Florida. Was Yeah,
they're a good football team this year. However, their schedule
is so strong we can't see them kind of making
out of it alive. That schedule when you talked about
the strength of it, didn't include us F TRUF to
what USF did to Bois of State and tenors are
going up down and was a Gainesville where they played
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down in Gainesville, Florida, where they're like, hey, listen. I
know we got this big schedule coming up with LSU
all these guys, but this team just beat the brakes
off of Boise State. I could see it.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
I could pick that up.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I'll go I'll go USF Wow.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
I mean to be honestly, if I was sitting in
your seat, I would go with the with the commissioner himself.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Also, yeah, I don't feel all confident like and you
know I sense that I love his confidence.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
I listen. It can go either way here. You could
just take a two. SF could cover just Florida could
cover well, the plassification of America taking the totals and
every game I like them both or both to go.
Let us come during our scring tour. Will come see
you guys. I'll take the under.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
The one point I liked was again at LSU next
week and uh.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
And at Miami Miami back to back roads.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
This could be you know, usually trap games come later
in the year, but this could be like an overlooking
coach is gonna try to keep the assholes tight. But
at the end of the day, when you're you got
a roster like that, like, yeah, here's how I think
of it. I'm gonna go UCF to cover.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
I think about Florida. I think about Florida. Everything you
said is right. Florida is up like thirty one to
three games in hand midway through third quarter. It's just
the kind of backdoor thing. US is not gonna stop
playing because they need to earn style points because they
could be the G five team whose resume is being
looked at and so getting in just under that seventeen number.
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It's not the kind of thing where I'm thinking, oh,
it's shot for shot and then Florida pulls away late.
It's the kind of thing where Florida pulls away early
and then Lagway's not in the game anymore and they're
trying to rest up.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
It's a that's a it's a good point. It's the
back door cover is it is highly likely in a
game like this because of what you have on deck. Yeah,
you want to get your stars out as fast as possible.
If it goes the way you're saying it can go,
still give me the Gators.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Gatis Gatis battle for the state. I would Iowa State.
Iowa State favored by two and a half in this game.
The over under on this game is forty one and
a half points. That seems like a carrot.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Do you take the over? Never take the over, Never
take I will never take the over. Dead taxes and
Phil Parker's defense, that's fucking always a guarantee that Iowa's
defense is gonna be good. I looked at this game
after watching Roco backed against Kansas State, and I was like, oh,
I really like Rocko back, and then you see Kansas
State and you're like and maybe like, I don't. I
don't know a whole lot about Iowa State, but I
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know a lot about Iowa. I know they got a
bunch of corn fed boys out there. They're gonna play
sound defense, gonna be hogs in the middle. They got
two guys returning, Logan Jones and Jenny Dunker, who are
all bag ten guys. Initially I look at it, I'm like, dude,
this is this is got Iowa all the way I
get on the old computer there dial up internet where
they're talking about this Mark Gronowski kid that they're really
excited about who generational talent Generation talent just transferred one
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two national championships, and I'm like, oh my god, is
Iowa canna have a passing game that's that's unbelievable. Then
they play Albany or whoever they play. Read it read
it's eight for fifteen, forty four yards in a touchdown.
Tell me this. You could take John Mattier in Iowa uniform.
He's gonna have forty four yards. Is how Iowa works.
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Someone said, I hoped that Mark Gronowski would happen to Iowa. Instead,
Iowa has happened to markin no doubt. And you see him.
He does his postgame press conference and it's like, yeah,
I gotta be better. Happy we got the win. It's
like Iowa, Iowa, Iowa. Everything we're saying is like Kirk
fans never allow you to be like one of those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
But honey, bro because the internet almost broke when he
threw his five yard out of They're like, oh, I
always got a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
This year. We're going like two years championship with a
ten pounds quarterback. Like he's big as ship, but he can't.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Throw it you ever, and happy go more. When they're
trying to get him under control and he winds up
he's about to throw the putter, and then he looks
over and the Virginia lady goes, yeah, and then he
reins it in. That's what throwing the pass is like.
And I was off, he's.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
About to get a twenty plus yarder because he's rocking
the eleven. He kind of gives you Carson Wins vibes. Yeah,
like twenty pounds heavy. He puts his head down like
he's a hard nose cat. He's never gonna come out
of the game even if his legs bolt to get
out of his legs. No, no, don't play. Take a sack,
ground upon it.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
We're gonna got to have fifty three rushes, three hundred
and ten yards and three times.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Bro Yes, I mean a little tricky dude. I mean yeah,
it's gonna be I got Iowa State. I think a
rocco back dude. He's played you know, two games, one
overseas against Kansas State. I think it's like his poison
in the pocket, his on timing throws where he's putting
the ball like they're running the ball well with a
boo sama, like they put him in a wildcat every
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once in a while when they get in that red
zone and it's like they have a team that's like, oh,
this is might be your baate twelve champion. They got
a tight end and I hate telling you this that
I hate. It's not even only a stat. Benjamin Bayer,
he's a six savy. He was a freshman All American.
He was he was committed to Nebraska. He had injury
last year. This is his third year. When they asked
him why he flipped his commit his answer was, it's
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because I don't believe in the coaching stat that's coming
in Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
That was and right now, as far as I know,
he's been proven, wrongs are.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
That's not a real stat. I made that whole. He
was already said it's not real. Just say that's not
a real staff. Hey, he was committed Nebraska. He did
flip the But also I always State's got a kicker
who just bombed the sixty three yard Dude, give me
I Aowa State covering covering this. That's so funny. The
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stuff that was going through man was already wrong. We
were walking at Will Compton to kind of lose his
cool single show We're gonna have a good We're.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Gonna have a good twenty weeks. I was already face
to face with its defender from Cincinnati. If you go
check out the vlog. We just dropped. I'm like pregame
face to face talking about it's gonna be a long day.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
He's like talking to me, Oh yeah. But we were
talking to the Cincinnati players and then one of us
at one point step back and be like, we're in
our mid thirties. It's just like and you gotta go back, like, hey,
I'm really sorry about that. Sound's kinda fucking around. As
we're driving to get one guy said it's gonna be
a long day. He looked at me, he's been beat
my ass, And I thought to myself, he probably could.
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It was taller ship. That was that twenty three or
something like that. It was a big boy, big boy,
big boy. I like Iowa. I will ship. I like
I win this game.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Like really, I just like a gritty I like a
gritty win mud truck on fresh clay type of run game,
punt the ball well, defense wins your game. In their
last ten, i was seven to three in their last
five at home.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Iowa State is zero to five against Iowa. That's true.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
This is a this is a factual stat. Now, I
like Iowa again. For me, Iowa State, they win this game.
They're onto something with this staff. If they start, they
got a shot and stick with me here.
Speaker 5 (58:35):
But look, every con stick with me here or listen after.
Speaker 2 (58:45):
This is a factual. Stat it's it's not one of
those other ones. A factual you gotta find it.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
I said there, I thought it was Bill Gomms, he
said the Reigndom.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
They're only something. I'm thinking, what is that Willie Brown
stuff Man's always That was the most Yeah, you got
ioland I got it you talking.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
About I do like, I like, I gotta stop, man,
I gotta stop.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
But what I meant was like to hear it flying
over to where they play at Ireland handling business. You
see Kansas State have a hangover last week, like after
coming back from island. You know how it is traveling
overseas and playing games after that. We usually get a
bye week in the NFL to playing overseas anymore. But
handling business the way I always they did last week,
I'm like, are they going to have like a hangover
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his game, like coming back from being across the pond.
And if they don't, they beat I when they control
the border. Because I was gonna be a tough team
this year. They'll probably be like a four four three
lost team like they always are, but they win that game.
I'm just telling you that you had a recipe over
there with I got I like, I win this game fashion.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
What was the total points in that game? Forty one
and a half. It's low. I kind of like the
over because of Rocco. So drop us another stat with
them with the twenty one to number Iowa thirty three
and one when they scored twenty one since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
So do they get to twenty one, They're onto something.
If they do, they're onto something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
They want something like Gronowski. He gets twenty one on
the board there. Yeah, passing yards are points. He might
not get twenty one passing yards. Yeah, my brain is
working one step floor. So in that Ireland game.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
In that Ireland game, Kansas State hit two explosive pasttds.
So if they can do that, it's it's Iowa's game.
I don't know that they can do that some of
Lee and Iowa State. That home curse against this team's
been real though. Yeah, so like last time I was,
I've only been to this game once. It was at
Iowa State, huge hype game. Ashton Kutcher's there it's a
really big deal. And they turned it over like four
times that day. I always got this habit in this
(01:00:53):
game of just waiting to hand to get have the
game handed to him, and so like that's where I
got to trust Rock go back. But I do trust
him in this game taking to win close talent. Yes,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I like, oh god, that would hurt. Holy shit, dude.
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look good, feel good, play good. Let's get back this
episode the game this week, number fifteen, Michigan in Norman, Oklahoma.
Bryce Underwood takes on John Myteer. Michigan is dog at
five and a half points total points to night. There's
no way the total points in this game is forty
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five and a half. Buddy, it's forty five and a half.
And I love it. I bet you do. Everybody and
their mother has sat there and told me about Norman, Oklahoma.
We got in March. People in Oklahoma sat and said, oh,
we're gonna suck. They're not good. It's gonna be a
whole year. John Matier, we got it, but who knows.
Something happened. There's a brewing all of a sudden where
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we get two weeks away from the season. All of
a sudden, Oklahoma is like the greatest things in slice spread.
John Mattier is the greatest quarterback. He's a generational He's
a generational quarterbacks. Generational quarterback. That's what they're saying about
John Metier and go back and look at him at
Washington say, this guy's a fucking dog. He puts something
numbers every single I went back and looked at John Metier.
I went back and looked at him. Twenty towy two
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red shirt wasn't good enough to do on the field.
Twenty three sat behind cam Ward picked this kid apart. Yeah,
twenty twenty four, they played one ranked game. They played
one ring game. That was September twenty eighth. That was
against State. Yeah, he had his numbers. He passed for
over three hundred yards in that game. They lost. But
also Boise State was the third worst and pass defense
in the Mountain West. Ye. Then they have to go
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oh no, on the road against you know, the freight
train of Fresno State. They got that dub twenty five seventeen.
That one must have been a real barn burner for
your boy Matier. Hawaii at Washington State, my god, forty
two to ten. They really craked it up on them.
Then Utah State where they won forty nine to twenty nine.
And then who they lose to the same team that
Michigan just beat the breaks off of last week in
New Mexico, who went five and seven last year. People
(01:03:30):
want to talk about Bryce Underwood. Yeah, he just turned
eighteen about fourteen days ago, and now this is the
biggest game of his life, and it is because he's
a freshman, But this is also John Matteer's biggest game
of his entire life. The pressure is on Oklahoma. I
don't think it would disagree with you. Then a ball.
He's got a hell of a defense on him. But
if they don't win this game in Norman, they're in hell.
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They're calling for him, they're getting they're getting the shackles
and chains out, they're setting his ass out of Norman.
If they lose this game, the pressure is on Oklahoma.
Ohlma could not run the ball against an FSC FC
f C school, Illinois State. They had one hundred yards
rushing their freshman quarterback, freshman running back. We rushed for
forty four yards. Mission's got a run game, they've got
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a defense. Where the two things you pack when you
go away, you pack a run game and you pack
a defense. I like my Wolverine's money line. Make sure
that's in my lector two money round.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I just, first of all, just the recap, where did
a materia play out Washington State. Yeah, you recap the
Washington State season talking about Oklahoma Sooners like this is
a different roster.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
They got the roster. Yeah, you want to talk about
Oklahoma Sumers. Their office line, they were zero for three
on third and fourth down with three three starters out.
They don't like the leanon guys. Their Their defense is
great in the middle. They have a good, great dtackle.
But when you talk about trenches best on best, you
take in the mazing blue because they're not you think
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they're gonna they have. Michigan has eight guys and I'm
not talking about a front seven plus a guy. They
have eight guys on the defensive line that they love
and they love to rotate out that. They all have
a lot of talent that can go and stay fresh
in a game in Norman, Oklahoma, and put the pressure
on this offensive line. John Mattier is gonna get his
no doubt about it. He's gonna have a couple of
great passes. He's gonna run the ball really well. But
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when it comes down to themorrow of it all, Michigan
does an amazing job of exploiting your weaknesses and when
the pressure is on them, they have never been a
team to fold. There are underdogs by twenty points against
Ohio State when they couldn't throw the ball. They were
hated and torn apart about cheating, and then they had
to go play Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State, Alabama, and
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then Washington win the national championship. It is in the
blood of the University of Michigan. Like them or hate them.
When it's pressure in their backs against the wall, they
swing no matter what. That's what I like about Michigan
over Oklahoma. Let me know what I can get him
in it. I mean I got. I mean, you could
just say who you got. I love the over in
this game.
Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I was gonna say, you're right if you talk about
packing a run game in defense, outside of explosive runs
for Michigan, they had a couple or a few. They're averaging, yes,
averaging three point three yards. Procure played this night New Mexico,
who was the one hundred and thirtieth ranked defense last
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year out of one hundred and thirty two teams in
college football. I agree this is the biggest game for
both teams. This is hard for me to pick with
the line being a five and a half. I'm not
riding against you. So if I love anything in this game,
I'm going to say over it, because forty five and
a half for me, that one feels like Fando's giftings.
Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Tell them that's what it feels like to me. John Matteer,
Bryce Underwood.
Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I love how Michigan went into the game last week
and had an identity and a game plan of what
they wanted to do with them as far as moving
the pocket easier throws. They didn't run them at all,
and uh, let the old line eat like again, figure
out what you're gonna be going in in Norman. They
were exactly who they wanted to be that game. Bryce Underwood,
he is a freak.
Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
He jumped out on tape, so does what could he
possibly be?
Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
He's a generational talent. He's a generational talent. John Metier
generational talent. Both great quarterbacks. I'm excited to watch this game.
I'm excited to see Bryce Underwood at Norman against an
Oklahoma team that seems to be getting a lot of
love from the national media.
Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
They do have a really good football team. I love
the over in this game, so I am going the
over all.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Right, Michigan's got this DNA that travels fact check true,
venables huge pressure cooker game fact check also true. Two
potentially generational quarterbacks with the way we define the word
fact check true. Okay, So I think because both of
them are put in a situation. Both quarterbacks putting a
situation here they've never been in before. Matiers never faced
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this level of competition or the spot. Underwood just started
playing college football five minutes ago, so neither one of
them have been in this position, high leverage situation. I
think it's right for quarterback mistakes to decide a game.
And I cannot believe this number is only forty five
and a half. I think it should be upper forties.
And so I think short fields are going to be
more plentiful and are expected in a normal football game.
(01:08:02):
I I'm gonna slightly lean Oklahoma. I think the numbers right.
So I got really no feel on the spread. I
love the over. What's the what's your model have for
the right at five? Oklahoma minus five, Oklahoma winning by five? Yeahint, Yeah,
So I got no feel on that, but like you
may very well be right. I've watched Michigan do that
too many times, so I'm not betting against them. I
just think someone's someone's finding a way to twenty eight
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thirty one something like that to win this game. So
Dion Burk's that wide receiver for Oklahoma. Can't wait to
watch him. Could be a difference maker in the game.
And I mean Oklahoma's missed three offensive lineman last week.
I don't know that they get him all back. They
didn't start the cow running back transfer last week. There's
a lot of speculation about whether he'll play this week.
What's his workload? Give me the over, Give me Oklahoma slightly,
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give me the over.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
We have a guy like that too, like Burke is
even saw Morgan number zero. Yup. He's a jet sweet guy.
A lot of punt return kick return guy. Chip Lindsay
comes in. He's now raving. This kid can actually run routs.
He understands concepts. He's tough as nails, he's fast as shit.
We got one to We got one to hope scores cowards,
both of you. I want to pick. This is my
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team's biggest game of the year. Gayeah, it's bigger New
Mexico Oklahoma. Hey, hey, buddy, listen, I'm riding with Michigan.
I want you guys to win as far as me
picking a game that's new. What you know, I like that,
I appreciate, I love it. Listen, I've rooted it for
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Michigan on several occasions. Don't do this. I have, you know,
big sec big I've said, I've said, yeah, I've said
will was on the allegation portion of Michigan was Willie Brown. Yeah,
I'm still on the allegation that the cheating stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I still think your trash, hate your program. I'm pulling
for him though.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, I'm still doing will Is that also you? Honestly,
I don't know that's why you're bulletproof. I don't know
that's why you're bulletproof. And I need to draw a
line in the same for me and I need I
need Michigan to be undefeated when they come into Lincoln.
So yeah, I want Michigan win this game.
Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Oh you want to pad the resume this game?
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Yes, I do. Why do I not? You? Because you
want to feel confident about Nebraska goes into Norman, Oklahoma.
Because that's like, yeah, like you're going into a hostile environment,
a team that feels really good about themselves, a fan
base that feels good about a team kind of and
it's like the if you are the casual fan, you're
looking at if you're not, if you're not a Michigan fan,
you're looking Oklahoma and being like, that's the team that's
going to win this game. And it's like if Michigan
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does do what a lot of people think they can't do,
and Bryce Underwood is as advertising what he's been paid,
then you're sitting in and we're talking about strictly bust
and bowl. We're shitting our pants a little bit. If
you're in Lincoln, Nebraska, No, bro, I want to see
like the big the thing that what what go?
Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
I want to hear the revotal I love this.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I mean no, I mean if you love Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I want Nebraska to be a great football program. The
schedule that we have this year is very favorable. But
I don't want like if you guys get beat and
it's like an ugly loss against Oklahoma and we end
up beating you guys on September twentieth, like I still
don't know what we got and I don't want it
to wait until USC or Penn State and then we
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get whooped and it's like, you know, you got this
fodder you got this. Oh we're undefeated, but we're not
really an undefeated football team. I want you guys to
be good. So we are playing against a good team
on September twentieth.
Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Win Luke's draw. I want to know what we got
in Lincoln Bruin and Lincoln Nebraska. So you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I want you guys to play well. I want Bryce
Underwood to be as advertised. I want to taste that
competition on September twentieth.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I welcome it.
Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I want it to Warriors mentality. Not a lot of
it left out there. I think you're in the minority.
Not a lot of it left. It's a generational mentality.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
A lot of guys you said out here and say
that you probably back love the over. Yeah, do what well?
Sprinkle Michigan plus five and a half. Yeah, I'll sprinkle
for you. But I'm streaming if we're talking the game. Yeah, absolutely, dude,
I'm gonna be rooting for you, guys. I'm gonna be
rooting for you guys. Was a little different than the
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last couple of years. Like you've looked at me in
the eyes on that bus and said, I want Michigan
because bro, there's just an arrogance the Michigan men can
have about themselves. I don't disagree. I'm one of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Yeah, to where it's like the padding on the Nebraska
and let's make Nebraska mediocre again.
Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
It's like, nah, okay, yeah, this is this Isail, this
is Wilcompton coming from an abusive relationship, portannoid coming to
me and two point zero as well. Well, listen when
you're when you were when I'm in Lincoln and we
were playing for the bust and Bowl. Yeah, I'm gonna
talk down to you a little bit, just like you
talk that we got sixty minutes and your heart turned black.
(01:12:57):
Ideas a good speech is a great can help we lost.
That was a I'm just saying, like Dave can do
with Dave wants in that situation. And yeah, have a
high A couple of sprinkles of Dave on you, no doubt.
But I haven't been that to you. You're not him,
I'm not Dave. And I've also consistently rooted for Nebraska.
Are you sprinkling Michigan?
Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
If you give me five and a half, I'll sprinkle Michigan.
Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I mean it's there, it's the I'll.
Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Sprinkle Michigan, I will hammer the over, Okay, So whatever
you do, score thirty when you do it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yeah, this is a good game for you. Could you
imagine Bryce Underwood like just being the generational quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
You wouldn't be alone using that word if he goes
in there and wins like that. This is this is
the same guy Rent Vivenables who watched Tua smoke the
SEC all year, get him in a national championship game,
lull him into a fallse sense of security between the twenties,
and just dominate him down in the red zone. That's
why I think rushing yards is not actually the most
important thing here. This is one of those like Penn
State Ohio State situations. Penn State runs the ball for
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two hundred, still loses on Ohio State because between the
twenties they get theirs field compressed says they can't do
anything down in the red area. That's Britain Venable's entire mo.
So like, I want to see Michigan because they're gonna
be about three or four situations they get plus territory
they get down inside the twenty decision making there. How
much did they trust Underwood on the road Michigan's staff
and what can Britain venables do to him because that's
really probably where our total is decided. That's absolutely where
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the game is decided. Jayshawn Barrom garbage, not him. The
call the garbage, okay, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It was absolute ridiculous. Then they went to appeal and
they're like, nope, Big ten even shut it down. And
it's like, you can't tell me. That's a little bit
of what targeting.
Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Is really broken in college football, really broken.
Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
It's broken. You want to call that roughing. It's a
heartbreaking loss, and that is I mean, that was the drive.
There was three separate penalties on third down, so that
was a stripsack phone before brought by for a touchdown.
They called that targeting the new set of downs. Then
they're in third and twelve, then of getting another penalty,
getting in the first and ten, which had let them
get another seven points, which when you look at the
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box score, that's you're like, Okay, Michigan maybe not had
the best day ever. I think defense were salt, but
we're very vanilla on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
I'm excited, agreed, I'm jack, I'm going I'm Jack I know.
Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
I'm kind of jealous. You're going bust and Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
He's talking about it.
Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Are you going to the bust and Bowl? And are
you going to my birthday?
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
When's your birthday?
Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
September nineteenth, it's on a Friday. That's where the live
show is. We've got bust and Ball in September twentieth.
Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I'm gonna I'm gonna verbally commit to your birthday. That's
a verbal, that's a that's a soft verbal. Yeah, I've
missed so many of those birthdays. I can't miss them.
Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Not this year. The week. Yeah, you hit your dog outright, outright,
didn't even need the points. I may need the point
a statement. Win still looks to stay on your win
loss record.
Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
You were cruising, you get bit, you got the big
new kickoff game hostate Texas. Midway through the game, it's like,
oh us f yeah, boy, we were standing at this.
Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
We were standing in the stadium looking at the looking
at the thing because I had Syracuse plus the points
to you and me and you were going back and forth.
Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Tennessee took the lead. Q s back in the leagues
were found out. The scoreboard was broken. Yeah, we was
just pulling Jack Yeah. We went out and we're like,
Jackie okay is yeah, it's a great day. Right, you
see the score. What happened defensive? He's like, we're playing
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I'm like, we scored multiple times.
Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Yeah, because we thought it was like twenty four to
twenty one. Bolts back and forth. Jack was like, it's
twenty four to seven or something like that. Yeah, oh shit, yeah,
all right, my fault dog of the week. I'll be quick, Charlotte.
I got them plus twelve and a half against UNC
Bill Belichick, his girlfriend stilettos on the sideline next to
the players. Unless you're a cheerleader, doesn't work. It's not
gonna happen. No disrespect to Bill Belichick. I love him.
(01:16:38):
I love what he did this with the Patriots for
as long as you did. But you hear the things
with the five star recruits coming in and they're wait
an hour, hour and a half for Bill Belichick that
it turns out you can't go see Bill Belichick. Let's
take you to the airport. Yeah, all of those things,
and then you see the result on the field. It's
going to be a very short tenure for Bill Belichick.
I got Charlotte covering twelve and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
My dog is gonna be the Army plus seventeen and
a half. When you don't know what to do, who
do you pick? You pick your country? Yeah, Kansas State.
What they put on film in the last two weeks,
I have zero reason to think they're gonna cover seventeen
and a half against Army.
Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
So I'm choosing the country. Army plus seventeen and a half.
Shout out every Johnson's family their fist fight on the horizon.
Pobvious family too getting in fights after that. Yeah, but
I heard povious family was like protecting their brother. I
think that's as povey as you can get. I'm messed
with it. Yeah, like they were tarps off Bandana's on.
They're out there getting you know, full Nelson's chokes.
Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
I'm gonna go to James Madison do what Army did.
Just lose to an FCS team.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
That's not a way to support your country, Mitch. Wow,
Like no one's history is perfect. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We
did some bad ship, but we're still the best.
Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Kimme me James Madison plus thirteen and a half against Louisville.
Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeah, Jam you fight song just went on. Yeah, good timing, Delaney.
That was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
JMU thirteen and a half against Louisville. They lose by
about ten.
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Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
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I had to watch that game with Mincey after surrounding
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We're sitting in the house and he goes Taylor. I'm
telling you right now, Ole miss is going to kill Kentucky.
I put like two grand on the game. Yeah, he
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Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I know all too well.
Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Minci telling me this and I was like, yeah, hell yeah,
I'm like a little I'm a little cooked up. I
didn't watch too many Rocky movies. Be like, hell yeah,
did you think about that fan base? How pissed off
Mincey was? That's what you need going into this. Did
you watch the game with him? Oh? I was get
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Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
He must have sounded like a jackhammer operator.
Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
But what do we do now? Everything was just the
most dramatic thing ever. Three yard games weren't good enough?
Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Mad Yeah, uh give me SMU minus two and a
half against Baylor. Baylor's gonna start going too, Smu. You
want to talk about disrespected Illinois?
Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
What about them? And they played in the conference title
game last year? Oil money too?
Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Yeah, no one even cares about him. No one's talking
about h J Peapole is not even talking about people
not top.
Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Twenty SMU SMU sleeper sleeper boys. Right. There a lot
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Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Arla minus two Illinois my student a half SMU minus
soon half an ole miss minus ten and a half.
That totals out two plus five eighty three fans, Sportsbook,
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Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Do we have anything else? I do want to say
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This one feels good character move.
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