October 24, 2022 • 19 mins
After the FCC shutdown of Liberation Radio, Rebecca and Owen are back on air…or at least podcast. Later, they meet with an old friend with questionable loyalties. Special guest Shayla Jamerson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You will not be able to stay home. Brother, you
will not be able to plug in, turn on, and
cop out. You will not be able to lose yourself
on scagg and skip out forbid during commercials because the
revolution will not be telling. Liberation has returned, y'all. It's
been a minute, but we are finally here. Best of all,
(00:20):
Owen is back from hades A k A and Ice
Detention Center. More on that later, but now I just
want to say, Owen, welcome back to the bottoms. That's right,
Like it or not, I'm back. We're back still liberation
right he just podcast now. Yeah, and it's definitely gonna
take some getting used to since we're no longer live.
(00:42):
But honestly, it's kind of chill, you know, no pressure,
no technical glitchen f c C. Fuck then, by the like,
I second that they fucking suck. Fuck you very much
the f c C for proving that free speech just
isn't free. So what the planet fails, Let's save the
(01:03):
great white males. Also very second, bet they fucking suck.
But also I love how you can just drop all
the EP bombs you want, Rebecca. I will be dropping
all the bombs, one big one in particular. Right now, Wait,
wait are you talking about? Let's just get it over with.
(01:24):
We were supposed to wait until the next tell them
all right, everyone, So we have some news and I
think it's probably gonna shock everyone. And I still can't
believe it myself. But where do I begin. I don't
even know how to tell this story. It's too weird.
You do it well. It all began when I was
in that ice dungeon, cold starving, afraid that I'd have
(01:48):
to return to the dreary English waste land of my youth.
As I sat in my cell night after night, I
began reflecting on my life and all the mistakes. I
all right, all right, drama, come on. I'll just say so.
You all know that Owen and I have been friends
for a long time, and we've had this show for
two years, and in that time we've often joked about
(02:10):
his immigration status. Owen thinks it's hilarious to ask me
to marry him for a green card, and I'm here
to say that's exactly what we're doing at the County
Clerk's office for money, Isn't it keeping very But by
this time next week it'll be official. We'll be married
and you'll have that green card. So oh you're exploited. Yeah,
(02:34):
I need I'm probably gonna need a drink afterwards. And
if any of our local listeners are out there and
they're round, we're having a little get together afterwards at
where Else Resist Reviews Cafe, which is finally fully renovated.
Kidding us, we should all be so lucky to have
a friend like you were, Baca. I mean, all stop it,
(02:56):
all right, anyway, moving on, we're here with today's guests.
Liberation Radio was proud to present the conversation with Shayla
bank Jammerson, community cultivator, activist and founder of SO Oakland.
I'm Rebecca, coming at you from the beautiful love Boy.
All right, I am really excited. We have a rate
(03:17):
of sunshine here today. Today we are joined by the
amazing and lovely Shyla Jamerson, founder SO Oakland. Shayla, welcome,
Thank you guys for having me. I'm so excited to
be here. So, first question, what was it like growing
up in Oakland? Um? I was raised by my grandparents
(03:38):
on East three and that area is considered like the
murder Dud, and that's exactly what was pretty much happening
in that area. Um, it was just a lot of violence.
But my grandparents, old school from the South, kept me
super busy, so I didn't become engulfed in all of that.
You know, growing up in Oakland super diverse. It was
(04:00):
never just like black or white. It was everyone. I'm
at home and you can hear my Mexican neighbor was
playing the bottom music and you know we're turning up
to that. Um. You have the side shows that we participated.
That was like what we did as our fun Like
what were we doing? Girl watching everybody swang and do
(04:21):
donuts And my thing was like, oh I can't wait.
I'm gonna be the first girl to get in the
stay and bust them donuts Like that was what we
wanted to do, like you know, the first girls to
do like that was our thing. Um. But what's crazy
is like in the middle of that, you still experience
what was really going on in Oakland, Like we could
(04:42):
be having a good time and then all of a
sudden it could be gunshots or whatever and everybody scattering,
and then you come back to it. It was like
it was almost you became de systized because it was
like that was part of just what was going on
in Oakland. Um, but I wouldn't change my experience growing
(05:03):
up in Oakland for nothing because it just taught me
how to be a hustler. It was just kind of
like this independency that you just kind of had growing
up in in Oakland, Like it gave us six skin.
So was that independent thinking the process that got you
to creating so Oakland? And what is so Oakland? Why
(05:26):
is it so important for you to preserve that culture? Oh? Absolutely.
I grew up in the nineties where Oakland was was
damned near like black, and you saw black families walking
around Lake Merritt and it was nothing like that was
how we were raised. And then coming from you know,
the seventies, black panthers, all of that, so we still
(05:48):
had that closeness. And so for me and So Oakland,
preserving that through this transition of gentrification, like it was
so important because I saw what it was like when
Oakland was black, and so when things started to shift
and you have people moving in that aren't from Oakland,
(06:12):
but it's nothing wrong with moving in. It was the
moving in and trying to make things comfortable for you.
And and because it's not comfortable for you, we are
going to call the police. And that's when I was like, Okay,
things are starting to change, and I'm starting to feel
uncomfortable in spaces that I've never felt uncomfortable before. And
(06:34):
so for me, starting so Oakland, it solely was just
about giving us space for ourselves where we can unapologetically
be ourselves and celebrate as natives, as black people, and
whatever that looks like. You can come into this space,
but just know if you're uncomfortable with it, you can
leave because we are not accommodating your needs or or
(06:57):
your feelings. And so while we're shaking our ass and
whatever it is that we're doing, I'm making sure that,
oh we're collecting clothes for the homeless, because the homeless
issue in Oakland is out of this world. Or we're
going to sign you up to vote. So I got
people going around like they're turning up, but okay, are
you registered to vote? Alright? Cool? Sis? Are you registered
(07:20):
to vote? So it was important for me to make
sure that I did in my way to kind of
like use my influence in a way that could change
just what was going on in Oakland. We we talked
about the idea of gentrification isolating people, you know, separating
(07:40):
the community and taking away that so that spirit that
you were talking about, and I think, I think what
you're doing brings people back together. It puts that so
back into it. Um, I'm curious. So how growing up
in Oakland and subsequently seeing the city become depleted has
(08:03):
changed the way you view Oakland now and the way
you view the world in general. I can honestly say that,
like I would have never thought that I would have
been affected the way that I was by seeing my
my city that I grew up just start to change.
I mean I didn't know because they literally one minute
(08:25):
of building is abandoned and then next minute it's a
beer garden. It's one thing when you come in and
you're like trying to actually be a part of the community,
and like how can I help, How can I give back,
or you know, how can I get involved? Like I
love Oakland, but it's another thing where you're trying to
isolate us and just not care about our needs, and
(08:49):
so we get upset, Like you love the culture and
the reason you love the cultures because of us, and
so you know we're necessary. That's an important distinction to make,
because I think it's important to say we don't want
to stop investment in Oakland. That's the complete opposite of
what we're looking for. But it's kind of like the
difference between someone coming into your house and bringing gift
(09:10):
or coming into your house and redecorating it for you,
like without your consent. I'm interested. I want to say
this word, and I want to know what your your
natural feeling is in the pit of your gut. Activism, girl,
I really like that word terrifies me. And I say
(09:35):
that because when I think of activists, I'm thinking of
the women that you know they're standing up and going
to O p D and they're outside and they're knocking
on the doors or crossing the Bay bridge and they're
chaining each other together and stopping the cars. I have
to keep in one hunted. I'm not there yet, but
it doesn't mean that I'm not passionate about what's going on.
(09:59):
And and I remember talking to my mentor and he
was just like, you are activists, but your your activism
is your way and your way celebration and people need that,
you know, and you're using your space to bring awareness
to important issues. So I know that old school way
(10:20):
of activism and you know you you you got Martin
Luther King and you know, uh, Malcolm X and and
you know black Panthers and things like that. Like it
was always very stern and and just about the issues
and it has to be this type of way. It
was no laughing, you know, like this is a serious matter.
(10:41):
And I was just like, you're right, Like I'm Sheyla.
I've always been me and I shouldn't be ashamed of
the way that I want to conduct my activism. And
I'm okay with that now. But you know, it was
it was very hard for me to accept that. But
we appreciate it. We really appreciate you. We appreciate your
(11:02):
love for Oakland. I'm sure our listeners appreciate your love
for Oakland. And I just want to say thank you
for sitting and talking to us. You are a ray
of sunshine and I'm accepted. I'm going to accept it.
I really am. Thank you guys so much. Thank you.
(11:24):
We hope you enjoyed this conversation. Join us next week
on Liberation Radio and Rebecca and Owen sit down with
Oakland icon and old school rapper Drew Down. You're sure,
she said to me on this side of the like, yeah,
and we specifically agree to this old duck and this
(11:46):
is the right time, o duh today at noon, the
old Duck next to the Wicker apartment complex. Of course,
there's no number to reach her at either. It's so typical.
Whoa oozes pulling up in a Rose Royce limo, don't
tell me that's a looks like a driver's coming out
(12:10):
for a chat. Ms. Marler would like you both to
join her in the vehicle. Miss Marla, correct, follow me please? Sorry,
I'm late. Is it just me? Or is the traffic
in the bay getting worse? So that guy is just
going to stand out there. Of course he doubles a
(12:30):
security Yeah, that seems unnecessary. And the tinny windows, you're
a bit superfluous, not taking any risks. You heard about
that kid who tracked Elon Musk's jet. These are dangerous
times for high profile people. Anyway, let's get down to business.
Why did you call this emergency meeting? Is it about Lenny?
We have bigger problems than Lenny, Marla? Okay, well, don't
(12:54):
just leave me in suspense. What is it? Russians? Russians
is terribly clash, isn't it? Rebecca is right? A Russian
is our current problem. I'm going to need some contexts.
Right as you know, the FBI knew we were close
to finding more dirt on their agents, and after they
took Owen, I located a viable source to get us
(13:15):
the info we needed. Unfortunately, that plan backfired. It turned
out that a Russian diplomat, lair Vetkov, had been keeping
the files as blackmail. Okay, so what so we got
busted trying to take back what we needed to get
Owen right, and you used it against Ovans and got Owen.
Where's the problem. Yeah, but Lara let me have it,
(13:39):
but with conditions. His niece was being held hostage, and
I had to help negotiate her return, and I also
had to agree to pass along the message. Lenny has
to resign immediately. Don't tell me you actually agreed to that.
What else was I supposed to do? But Laia isn't
just a normal diplomat, He's crazy connected. I had to
say any and everything just to get out of their live.
(14:03):
My head is thriving right now. I don't understand why
the hell with some Russian dude give a shit about
the mayor of Oakland. Okay, we believe Valara is working
with the FBI or some private organization looking to influence
local politics. They're the ones who tried to kill him
with the pipe wine. Lenny's in someone's way, and they've
(14:26):
made it very clear to Rebecca they're happy to try
and kill him again if he doesn't leave of his
own volition. But Lara knew who I was, who Ernie was.
They know everything about us. What do you mean by everything?
Not everything everything, just everything about Ernie Owen and I.
They're not messing around, Marla. The last thing Agent Evans
(14:46):
asked Lenny to do was to support Doug Strouther as
Oakland police chief, and now these guys want to install
Vice Mayor Jones to replace Lenny. It's all connected. We've
stumbled onto something big and danger Shit. Shit, shit is
the stress wrinkle showing on my forehead? On my forehead,
(15:09):
Rebecca tell me, I'm like, no, you guys, this sounds
so fucked I mean, your job was really fucking simple,
and I don't understand how you sucked this up so bad. Yeah,
it is missed up, but it's also a good thing
that we discovered what they're planning. No, not really. I
don't want to sound callous, but Lenny is not a priority.
(15:31):
He's a means to an end. This was a chessboard,
he'd be one of those little pawns who gets taken first.
There's a bigger game here. You lost sight of that.
Oh no, no, no, no, that's not true. State secession
is all I care about. Everything Allen and I do
is for that cause. Whatever Lenny is gonna have to
step down. It's the only way. No, no way. We
(15:53):
can't throw away six months of work. You only have
yourself to blame. Besides, I think we all know he
was doomed from the start. Bullshit, How else are we
supposed to stop these fascists from taking over? We busted
our asses to get those corrupt pieces of ship out
and you're just okay with them reinstalling new ones. Slow
(16:15):
and steady wins the race. We'll find another way. Plus,
you don't even know their motives. Look, I want to
talk to Xerox. Not possible. Xerox is out of the
country right now. Fine, I want to talk to them
on WhatsApp or telegram. What are you trying to pull here?
Nothing but there's something else they need to know, and
(16:38):
obviously you're not the one to tell it to like
it or not. What I say goes. When Xerox is out,
I'm in charge, and if there's something that he needs
to know, you tell me and I'll pass it along
for Fox psych Mala. This could do Royal our entire operation.
It's not about some bureaucratic chain of command. A fella.
(16:59):
I'm gonna fuck d m V. Don't be dramatic. If
I talked to Xerox and they tell me to keep
learning around, I'll let you know. Until then we go
with my plan. Okay, By the way, please tell me
you guys getting married as a joke. Alright, genius, Do
you have a better way to keep owing from getting deported?
Uh huh yeah, stay out of the firing line. Yeah, well,
(17:21):
that's easy for you to say. We're the ones that
are still in the trenches. Excuse me, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What I think Rebecca is trying to say is that
the nature of our rose places us more in the
tangible world than say, yeah, pretty much. You think I
want to spend my days posing in front of a camera,
(17:42):
editing photos and constantly uploading content, doing paid promotion. I
wasn't saying you did. And I suppose that you think
party and constantly is fun. For me, it's exhausting. I
make it look easy because that's my job. So if
you feel on the sellout, great, just means we're all
playing our parts, which is exactly why Owen and I
(18:04):
have to do this. Fine, fair enough. You know you've
changed you haven't. You know what? I think this conversation
is over. It definitely is. Don't you try anything cute, Rebecca,
Xerox left you in charge. We heard you the first time.
(18:25):
Why didn't you tell her about the girls they're trying
to recruit from that pimp? You heard her? I mean
she's not going to lift a finger to help us
with anything. And until we talked to Xerox directly, we're
on our own. We trust no one else. Valera, they're
(18:46):
not going to let go. What is it they need?
I give them everything they wanted. They want xeroxible. Obviously,
I told them Xerox is abroad. Rebecca isn't buying it.
Xerox is like her Messiah. All I know is they
had better stay out of my way. I spared her life. Once,
(19:11):
but if I cash you invading my property again, I
will shut down this whole thing. Don't worry, I know
how to handle her. You had better or I'm afraid
your faith will be like this. Zero Messiah God
You will not be able to stay home. Brother, you
will not be able to plug in, turn on, and
cop out. You will not be able to lose yourself
on scagg and skip out forbid during commercials because the
revolution will not be telling. Liberation has returned, y'all. It's
been a minute, but we are finally here. Best of all,
(00:20):
Owen is back from hades A k A and Ice
Detention Center. More on that later, but now I just
want to say, Owen, welcome back to the bottoms. That's right,
Like it or not, I'm back. We're back still liberation
right he just podcast now. Yeah, and it's definitely gonna
take some getting used to since we're no longer live.
(00:42):
But honestly, it's kind of chill, you know, no pressure,
no technical glitchen f c C. Fuck then, by the like,
I second that they fucking suck. Fuck you very much
the f c C for proving that free speech just
isn't free. So what the planet fails, Let's save the
(01:03):
great white males. Also very second, bet they fucking suck.
But also I love how you can just drop all
the EP bombs you want, Rebecca. I will be dropping
all the bombs, one big one in particular. Right now, Wait,
wait are you talking about? Let's just get it over with.
(01:24):
We were supposed to wait until the next tell them
all right, everyone, So we have some news and I
think it's probably gonna shock everyone. And I still can't
believe it myself. But where do I begin. I don't
even know how to tell this story. It's too weird.
You do it well. It all began when I was
in that ice dungeon, cold starving, afraid that I'd have
(01:48):
to return to the dreary English waste land of my youth.
As I sat in my cell night after night, I
began reflecting on my life and all the mistakes. I
all right, all right, drama, come on. I'll just say so.
You all know that Owen and I have been friends
for a long time, and we've had this show for
two years, and in that time we've often joked about
(02:10):
his immigration status. Owen thinks it's hilarious to ask me
to marry him for a green card, and I'm here
to say that's exactly what we're doing at the County
Clerk's office for money, Isn't it keeping very But by
this time next week it'll be official. We'll be married
and you'll have that green card. So oh you're exploited. Yeah,
(02:34):
I need I'm probably gonna need a drink afterwards. And
if any of our local listeners are out there and
they're round, we're having a little get together afterwards at
where Else Resist Reviews Cafe, which is finally fully renovated.
Kidding us, we should all be so lucky to have
a friend like you were, Baca. I mean, all stop it,
(02:56):
all right, anyway, moving on, we're here with today's guests.
Liberation Radio was proud to present the conversation with Shayla
bank Jammerson, community cultivator, activist and founder of SO Oakland.
I'm Rebecca, coming at you from the beautiful love Boy.
All right, I am really excited. We have a rate
(03:17):
of sunshine here today. Today we are joined by the
amazing and lovely Shyla Jamerson, founder SO Oakland. Shayla, welcome,
Thank you guys for having me. I'm so excited to
be here. So, first question, what was it like growing
up in Oakland? Um? I was raised by my grandparents
(03:38):
on East three and that area is considered like the
murder Dud, and that's exactly what was pretty much happening
in that area. Um, it was just a lot of violence.
But my grandparents, old school from the South, kept me
super busy, so I didn't become engulfed in all of that.
You know, growing up in Oakland super diverse. It was
(04:00):
never just like black or white. It was everyone. I'm
at home and you can hear my Mexican neighbor was
playing the bottom music and you know we're turning up
to that. Um. You have the side shows that we participated.
That was like what we did as our fun Like
what were we doing? Girl watching everybody swang and do
(04:21):
donuts And my thing was like, oh I can't wait.
I'm gonna be the first girl to get in the
stay and bust them donuts Like that was what we
wanted to do, like you know, the first girls to
do like that was our thing. Um. But what's crazy
is like in the middle of that, you still experience
what was really going on in Oakland, Like we could
(04:42):
be having a good time and then all of a
sudden it could be gunshots or whatever and everybody scattering,
and then you come back to it. It was like
it was almost you became de systized because it was
like that was part of just what was going on
in Oakland. Um, but I wouldn't change my experience growing
(05:03):
up in Oakland for nothing because it just taught me
how to be a hustler. It was just kind of
like this independency that you just kind of had growing
up in in Oakland, Like it gave us six skin.
So was that independent thinking the process that got you
to creating so Oakland? And what is so Oakland? Why
(05:26):
is it so important for you to preserve that culture? Oh? Absolutely.
I grew up in the nineties where Oakland was was
damned near like black, and you saw black families walking
around Lake Merritt and it was nothing like that was
how we were raised. And then coming from you know,
the seventies, black panthers, all of that, so we still
(05:48):
had that closeness. And so for me and So Oakland,
preserving that through this transition of gentrification, like it was
so important because I saw what it was like when
Oakland was black, and so when things started to shift
and you have people moving in that aren't from Oakland,
(06:12):
but it's nothing wrong with moving in. It was the
moving in and trying to make things comfortable for you.
And and because it's not comfortable for you, we are
going to call the police. And that's when I was like, Okay,
things are starting to change, and I'm starting to feel
uncomfortable in spaces that I've never felt uncomfortable before. And
(06:34):
so for me, starting so Oakland, it solely was just
about giving us space for ourselves where we can unapologetically
be ourselves and celebrate as natives, as black people, and
whatever that looks like. You can come into this space,
but just know if you're uncomfortable with it, you can
leave because we are not accommodating your needs or or
(06:57):
your feelings. And so while we're shaking our ass and
whatever it is that we're doing, I'm making sure that,
oh we're collecting clothes for the homeless, because the homeless
issue in Oakland is out of this world. Or we're
going to sign you up to vote. So I got
people going around like they're turning up, but okay, are
you registered to vote? Alright? Cool? Sis? Are you registered
(07:20):
to vote? So it was important for me to make
sure that I did in my way to kind of
like use my influence in a way that could change
just what was going on in Oakland. We we talked
about the idea of gentrification isolating people, you know, separating
(07:40):
the community and taking away that so that spirit that
you were talking about, and I think, I think what
you're doing brings people back together. It puts that so
back into it. Um, I'm curious. So how growing up
in Oakland and subsequently seeing the city become depleted has
(08:03):
changed the way you view Oakland now and the way
you view the world in general. I can honestly say that,
like I would have never thought that I would have
been affected the way that I was by seeing my
my city that I grew up just start to change.
I mean I didn't know because they literally one minute
(08:25):
of building is abandoned and then next minute it's a
beer garden. It's one thing when you come in and
you're like trying to actually be a part of the community,
and like how can I help, How can I give back,
or you know, how can I get involved? Like I
love Oakland, but it's another thing where you're trying to
isolate us and just not care about our needs, and
(08:49):
so we get upset, Like you love the culture and
the reason you love the cultures because of us, and
so you know we're necessary. That's an important distinction to make,
because I think it's important to say we don't want
to stop investment in Oakland. That's the complete opposite of
what we're looking for. But it's kind of like the
difference between someone coming into your house and bringing gift
(09:10):
or coming into your house and redecorating it for you,
like without your consent. I'm interested. I want to say
this word, and I want to know what your your
natural feeling is in the pit of your gut. Activism, girl,
I really like that word terrifies me. And I say
(09:35):
that because when I think of activists, I'm thinking of
the women that you know they're standing up and going
to O p D and they're outside and they're knocking
on the doors or crossing the Bay bridge and they're
chaining each other together and stopping the cars. I have
to keep in one hunted. I'm not there yet, but
it doesn't mean that I'm not passionate about what's going on.
(09:59):
And and I remember talking to my mentor and he
was just like, you are activists, but your your activism
is your way and your way celebration and people need that,
you know, and you're using your space to bring awareness
to important issues. So I know that old school way
(10:20):
of activism and you know you you you got Martin
Luther King and you know, uh, Malcolm X and and
you know black Panthers and things like that. Like it
was always very stern and and just about the issues
and it has to be this type of way. It
was no laughing, you know, like this is a serious matter.
(10:41):
And I was just like, you're right, Like I'm Sheyla.
I've always been me and I shouldn't be ashamed of
the way that I want to conduct my activism. And
I'm okay with that now. But you know, it was
it was very hard for me to accept that. But
we appreciate it. We really appreciate you. We appreciate your
(11:02):
love for Oakland. I'm sure our listeners appreciate your love
for Oakland. And I just want to say thank you
for sitting and talking to us. You are a ray
of sunshine and I'm accepted. I'm going to accept it.
I really am. Thank you guys so much. Thank you.
(11:24):
We hope you enjoyed this conversation. Join us next week
on Liberation Radio and Rebecca and Owen sit down with
Oakland icon and old school rapper Drew Down. You're sure,
she said to me on this side of the like, yeah,
and we specifically agree to this old duck and this
(11:46):
is the right time, o duh today at noon, the
old Duck next to the Wicker apartment complex. Of course,
there's no number to reach her at either. It's so typical.
Whoa oozes pulling up in a Rose Royce limo, don't
tell me that's a looks like a driver's coming out
(12:10):
for a chat. Ms. Marler would like you both to
join her in the vehicle. Miss Marla, correct, follow me please? Sorry,
I'm late. Is it just me? Or is the traffic
in the bay getting worse? So that guy is just
going to stand out there. Of course he doubles a
(12:30):
security Yeah, that seems unnecessary. And the tinny windows, you're
a bit superfluous, not taking any risks. You heard about
that kid who tracked Elon Musk's jet. These are dangerous
times for high profile people. Anyway, let's get down to business.
Why did you call this emergency meeting? Is it about Lenny?
We have bigger problems than Lenny, Marla? Okay, well, don't
(12:54):
just leave me in suspense. What is it? Russians? Russians
is terribly clash, isn't it? Rebecca is right? A Russian
is our current problem. I'm going to need some contexts.
Right as you know, the FBI knew we were close
to finding more dirt on their agents, and after they
took Owen, I located a viable source to get us
(13:15):
the info we needed. Unfortunately, that plan backfired. It turned
out that a Russian diplomat, lair Vetkov, had been keeping
the files as blackmail. Okay, so what so we got
busted trying to take back what we needed to get
Owen right, and you used it against Ovans and got Owen.
Where's the problem. Yeah, but Lara let me have it,
(13:39):
but with conditions. His niece was being held hostage, and
I had to help negotiate her return, and I also
had to agree to pass along the message. Lenny has
to resign immediately. Don't tell me you actually agreed to that.
What else was I supposed to do? But Laia isn't
just a normal diplomat, He's crazy connected. I had to
say any and everything just to get out of their live.
(14:03):
My head is thriving right now. I don't understand why
the hell with some Russian dude give a shit about
the mayor of Oakland. Okay, we believe Valara is working
with the FBI or some private organization looking to influence
local politics. They're the ones who tried to kill him
with the pipe wine. Lenny's in someone's way, and they've
(14:26):
made it very clear to Rebecca they're happy to try
and kill him again if he doesn't leave of his
own volition. But Lara knew who I was, who Ernie was.
They know everything about us. What do you mean by everything?
Not everything everything, just everything about Ernie Owen and I.
They're not messing around, Marla. The last thing Agent Evans
(14:46):
asked Lenny to do was to support Doug Strouther as
Oakland police chief, and now these guys want to install
Vice Mayor Jones to replace Lenny. It's all connected. We've
stumbled onto something big and danger Shit. Shit, shit is
the stress wrinkle showing on my forehead? On my forehead,
(15:09):
Rebecca tell me, I'm like, no, you guys, this sounds
so fucked I mean, your job was really fucking simple,
and I don't understand how you sucked this up so bad. Yeah,
it is missed up, but it's also a good thing
that we discovered what they're planning. No, not really. I
don't want to sound callous, but Lenny is not a priority.
(15:31):
He's a means to an end. This was a chessboard,
he'd be one of those little pawns who gets taken first.
There's a bigger game here. You lost sight of that.
Oh no, no, no, no, that's not true. State secession
is all I care about. Everything Allen and I do
is for that cause. Whatever Lenny is gonna have to
step down. It's the only way. No, no way. We
(15:53):
can't throw away six months of work. You only have
yourself to blame. Besides, I think we all know he
was doomed from the start. Bullshit, How else are we
supposed to stop these fascists from taking over? We busted
our asses to get those corrupt pieces of ship out
and you're just okay with them reinstalling new ones. Slow
(16:15):
and steady wins the race. We'll find another way. Plus,
you don't even know their motives. Look, I want to
talk to Xerox. Not possible. Xerox is out of the
country right now. Fine, I want to talk to them
on WhatsApp or telegram. What are you trying to pull here?
Nothing but there's something else they need to know, and
(16:38):
obviously you're not the one to tell it to like
it or not. What I say goes. When Xerox is out,
I'm in charge, and if there's something that he needs
to know, you tell me and I'll pass it along
for Fox psych Mala. This could do Royal our entire operation.
It's not about some bureaucratic chain of command. A fella.
(16:59):
I'm gonna fuck d m V. Don't be dramatic. If
I talked to Xerox and they tell me to keep
learning around, I'll let you know. Until then we go
with my plan. Okay, By the way, please tell me
you guys getting married as a joke. Alright, genius, Do
you have a better way to keep owing from getting deported?
Uh huh yeah, stay out of the firing line. Yeah, well,
(17:21):
that's easy for you to say. We're the ones that
are still in the trenches. Excuse me, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What I think Rebecca is trying to say is that
the nature of our rose places us more in the
tangible world than say, yeah, pretty much. You think I
want to spend my days posing in front of a camera,
(17:42):
editing photos and constantly uploading content, doing paid promotion. I
wasn't saying you did. And I suppose that you think
party and constantly is fun. For me, it's exhausting. I
make it look easy because that's my job. So if
you feel on the sellout, great, just means we're all
playing our parts, which is exactly why Owen and I
(18:04):
have to do this. Fine, fair enough. You know you've
changed you haven't. You know what? I think this conversation
is over. It definitely is. Don't you try anything cute, Rebecca,
Xerox left you in charge. We heard you the first time.
(18:25):
Why didn't you tell her about the girls they're trying
to recruit from that pimp? You heard her? I mean
she's not going to lift a finger to help us
with anything. And until we talked to Xerox directly, we're
on our own. We trust no one else. Valera, they're
(18:46):
not going to let go. What is it they need?
I give them everything they wanted. They want xeroxible. Obviously,
I told them Xerox is abroad. Rebecca isn't buying it.
Xerox is like her Messiah. All I know is they
had better stay out of my way. I spared her life. Once,
(19:11):
but if I cash you invading my property again, I
will shut down this whole thing. Don't worry, I know
how to handle her. You had better or I'm afraid
your faith will be like this. Zero Messiah God
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