July 20, 2022 • 29 mins
Martha finds a therapeutic ear in Chelsea when they sit down to talk about dating, hecklers & haters, and how to be funny in this politically correct world. Find out what Chelsea WON’T talk about. Plus, the two duel it out on a selfie-rematch.
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Can you mention me in one of your Oh I
always talk about you, Martha, don't That's how I opened
and closed my shows. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Chelsea Handler
is a stand up comedian, New York Times bestselling author,
television and podcast host, and businesswoman. Many of you know
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her from her well known late night talk show, Chelsea Lately,
which aired on the E Network for seven seasons. Her
work has also been featured on Netflix and HBO Max.
Some of you may remember Chelsea was on my h
G t V show Martha Knows Best, where I showed
her how to make a delicious apple cider cocktail, and
of course everyone remembers how she tried to emulate my
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famous pool selfie that I choke back in at my
former home in East Hampton. Welcome to my podcast, Chelsea.
Oh hi, Martha's so good to see you. Well, we
just finished your podcast, which was very enlightening. I know,
I mean, this is Dr Chill. See yeah. People call
in for real life, like life problems, interpersonal affairs. Some
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people are in bad relationships, bad working environments, and I
have to kind of try and help and you can
help them, that's right, which is amazing. Well, I've anointed
myself as psychiatrist in very loose terms only because I
got so much out of my own therapy experience. I
absorbed so much information that I couldn't wait to spit
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it back out and kind of share it without yourself.
I was. I think I was in bestudent, because you
really are regurgitating advice from psychiatry that you know. I
I feel like I feel like you are psych Well,
thank you, that's exactly the impression I'm trying to make. Huh, well,
that's very interesting. Well, I yet also I wrote a
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book when I got when I went to therapy, I
was so enthralled by all this information that I was
learned and I had I was learning. I had all
these light bulb moments where he would explain my behavior
and why that was, you know, something that was represent
ended up of something that happened in my childhood, which
you know, earlier in my life. I thought all was
just a bunch of horse I'm like, what does my
childhood have to do with my adulthood? And I didn't
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want to spe one of those adults who spent their
adulthood getting over your childhood, you know what I mean?
I think it's a I think that's the worst thing
a person can do. Yeah, relive or imagine would affect
you had as a child on your future life. I
just can't. I never think about that. Yeah, yeah, well
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maybe I should. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, they
say an unexamined life, you know, isn't a life not
worth living. But some people don't need to examine their lives.
Other people really need to get get it straight. So
I couldn't wait to share what I learned, and I
wrote it in my last book, and then I'm turning
that book into a TV show, so it just kind
of keeps. It's well, we haven't titled it yet. It's
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at Peacock. We just turned our script in, so, uh,
I don't know. It probably won't be the same name
as my book. We'll have to come up with a
new structure series. Yeah, me starring in it one, you're
gonna start. Great, that's something to look forward to. Yeah,
So how are yourselfies coming along? Well, I mean I'm
waiting for you to inspire me because when I saw
that pool selfie of you in I just that was
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during COVID in lockdown, and I thought, oh, I could
do that pose, and I I got right into my
bathing suit and went down to my pool, and I
did my hair and makeup as close to yours as
I could, and I put that right out there and
it was such a big hit. And then you were
your typical self by commenting on your pool being nicer
than mine, which actually seth Meyers also confirmed he thought
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was nice. Yeah, I think most people are going to
think that your pool is nicer than mine, and I'm
fine with that. I'm just gonna might have to it
might have to do another one because I have a
new pool. Okay. Well I'm also building a new pool. Okay,
well I'm going to do another pool selfie and see
what we come up. Where are you based out of now?
Because Bedford, New York. Okay, I have a beautiful pool
in my fool and it's enclosing a red beach hige
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and it's very very pretty. Do you spend a lot
of time in the pool? No? No, no one, No
one who has a pool really goes into the No.
I do go in, but but I don't have time
so much. It's late at night that's when I usually
go in. I don't have a really nice hot tub
with lots of jets. I had to put extra jets in,
So that's like, you know, it's like a jacuzzi. Yeah,
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and that's what That's what I really like, is the jacuzzi. Yeah.
And swimming laps is fun but boring. Yeah, swimming is boring.
Never Mark spits, remember Mark spits, the swimmer, the Olympic swimmer. Well,
he remember him saying, you know, because he had to
swim lap after lap after lap, thousands and thousands, he said,
I just imagined some beautiful girl at the end of
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each lap. But you know, you sort of run out
of beautiful men to think about at the end of lap.
So the thing I like, Yeah, that's swimming. I do
find boring. I mean, most exercise can be boring if
you overdo it. But I remember reading Katherine Hepburn's biography.
Kate remembered and she would get up in the morning,
and she lived on the in Connecticut, right and she
would jump into the freezing cold Pacific and swim and
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laps every single morning. And I she attributes her mental
clarity and her strength to that. And I think there's
a lot to be said about diving in the ocean
and swimming like that. Well, good for her, It's good
for her. It really is amazing to swim in the ocean.
So aside from all these thirst traps, um, we have
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something else in common. You were also one of six
children born in New Jersey, as I was, and what
affections that had on you just being part of a
big family. Are you a close knit family? Yes, we
are pretty tight we have There are six of us
minus one. My brother passed away when we were little.
He had an accident, so there are five of us.
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I think that event probably brought us together even more. Um,
but we're very tight knit. And you know, my brothers,
some of them have been married to people and our
our family that you know, don't fit in and as
nicely with the core group as as we would like.
But then you know that's part of people getting married,
your brothers and stirs. So are you friendly to those
people or do you do you turn your back on
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those people? Know where we do our Yeah, we make
it work. We make it work, and we're all very
kind of politically aligned, so we don't have any of
that drama. I'm the youngest, I'm the most spoiled. I
was always the most spoiled because my parents were a
little bit um lame. They just kind of by the
time they had me, they had the run out of
parenting um at energy. So my brothers and sisters were
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kind of left to spearhead my childhood. So they all
I'm very spoiled. I was very much the youngest, and
now I'm in charge of all of them, Like I
make the decisions about where we're going, what vacations were taking.
We go every way Christmas, we go to the Marthe's
vineyard every summer, and I basically am in control of
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the family. So being the youngest and the oldest, I
think simultaneously, are there any other actors or comedians in
your family? No? No, just me? And did you know
at what age did you know you were going to
be a comic? I never knew I was going to
be a comedian until I moved to Los Angeles, and
I just wanted to be like I wanted people to
know me and know who I was, Like I'm more
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had a desire to be well known, to be honest.
And then when I came to California and uh, somebody
introduced the idea of stand up comedy, which was so scary,
you know, getting on stage alone and with what and
saying what. And I remember going to a comedy club
and I just thought, oh my god, you know, this
is gonna give me diarrhea. I can't ever do this.
It's too scary, it's too intimidating. And then I just thought, Oh,
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you're on stage with a microphone and you're the only
one allowed to talk and no one can interrupt you. Like,
that's a great idea for me. And then I just
mustered up the courage and I started doing a big talk,
like the way you are very good talk and talk
and talk and talk very um you know, like I can.
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I can engage with almost anybody. And I like that.
I like learning about people, and I like expressing myself
and I love the art of language. You know. That's
why I like writing books as well. And that's why
I love stand up is because you're articulating something and
you're expressing yourself. And I love words and putting them
together in a way that makes somebody think. And you
don't get tongue tied, Uh No, not not really. Sometimes
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I do. Yeah, sure I have been tongue tied or
I've said the wrong thing. Or you know, spoken too fast.
I'm definitely done. When you're doing your stand up Do
you have a do you have an earpiece in anybody?
Remind you of something? No, that I just have memorized.
You do, like, you know, on a tour, I'm probably
on my I'm still on my tour. I just announced
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another twenty two dates, so I will have done at
the end of this tour, probably a hundred and twenty dates.
So after you you know, I start out with like
nine pages of notes of what I'm going to say,
and then, as you know, the shows go on, you
condense it, you edit. It's kind of like writing a book,
and then you get off script and you memorize it.
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At what point in your career did you realize that
this was what you were meant to do? Um, I
feel like I wouldn't be able to do much else,
you know. I tried to be temp like a temp person.
I tried to work in offices when I was in
my twenties. I waited tables. I got fired from almost
every job. I was terrible with people when they were
telling me what to do. I remember being an intemp
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office trying to transfer a call like from the front
desk into the partner's offices, and it was such a
debacle that somebody one of the partners called and said,
who is this bimbo that we hired at the front desk?
You have to get rid of her. And I was like, oh,
that's me. I said, I'm so sorry. I don't know
how to transfer phone calls. He's like, that's all you
have to do at this job is transferred phone calls.
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So I just my My sister always said it perfectly.
She said, you know, you're not good at anything else,
and you won't be not good at any of the
things that you can do. I'm not domesticated in any way.
Um so yeah, this is pretty much my purpose, I
think is to share. So what what age were you
when you became Chelsea Handlers? Um? Well, I had a
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pretty pretty big, you know, impression of myself. Early on,
I had a lot of misplaced confidence. But when I
became well known, I was probably thirty, So I'm not
not old. You were young, yeah, thirty, But you know
when I was waiting tables from like twenty eight, thinking well,
it's eight years enough, it's a it's long enough to
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be scared that it might become permanent and that I
might be waiting tables for the rest. What was what
was the first thing that you knew that you were
going to make it? Um? Well, yeah, I got a
lot of development deals, like an NBC development deal, which
is where they would see you do stand up and
say we're gonna build a TV show around you and
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they'd pay you like a hundred thousand dollars. At the time,
I was a waitress. The first time I got that deal,
I was like, WHOA, I can this is it? Like
I can retire? And then you realize, no, You're not
gonna be able to retire on a hundred thousand dollars
because you have to get half of it a I
to you know, taxes, commissions, etcetera. But when I really
made it was probably I had a couple of big
breaks before my show Chelsea Lately. But Chelsea Lately and
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my books kind of coalesced at the same time and
it was kind of a um perfect storm. So I
think that's when I really when I became kind of
like a household name was during Chelsea Lately. It was
such a great shows seven seasons and we had so
much I mean, we laughed our asses off doing that show.
It was just one big audience left. Yeah. Yeah, it
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was really fun. And then you started your own production company. Yeah,
so you're you're really incorporating good business with with your comedy.
I wanted to ask, what's the difference between a comic
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and a comedian? Is there any difference? No, not really,
You're rather be known as a comedian comedian without being
a without it being like female. You know, yeah, comedian
seems a little bit passe. And do you have who
who were your mentors in comedy? Um? Who who are
your heroes? Well? I don't know about mentors. I don't
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really I didn't. You know, I was so arrogant when
I was coming up, Like I really thought I could
do it all by myself, and any of my success
was was from me. You know. I recently inducted Joan
Rivers into the Hall of Fame. And I remember being
on E and she was on E and she would
try and you know, kind of engage with me or
hang out and I just kind of had no time
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for her. And and and recently when I inducted her
into the Hall, uh for Netflix, I you know, I
spoke about that, like how I didn't realize how important
and integral she is and every female comedian's past. She
was doing stand up when when women were never doing it.
Wasn't she the first big stand up coming Philis Diller
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and Joan Rivers? I believe. Yeah, I'm sure we're forgetting
a couple, but those women were out there when it
was a total man's game, you know. So when I
was coming up, you know, to not give credit where
credit is due is you know, something that I regret
and not you know, and now really understand more comprehensively
how important it is to recognize the people who open
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those doors for you, because you know, somebody always came
before you. So you haven't You haven't told me who
your heroes were. Oh so, I guess in hindsight, she
would be a hero of mine. As far as a mentor,
Jay Leno was really good to me when I was
coming up. He had me on his show all the
time doing kind of remote sketches and he was a
good mentor. Again, we didn't have like a personal off
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camera relationship as much, but he was sweet to me.
And uh, yeah, I guess you know, I don't really
think the old timers, No, No, I wasn't really in.
I was who did you loved? Who did you loved?
Jerry Lewis? Did Bill Cosby? So look where that got me? Well,
you know he was on my show. I remember what
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a fantastic man he was. What the hill happened? Oh
my god? Yeah, well we were all duped. I remember
growing up watching Bill Cosby thinking I wish my father
had together, like that had been his own, you know,
O B g y N office in our house, Like
how great they live in this beautiful home. Now we
know what he was doing in that O. B g
y N office. I know, isn't it crazy? Yeah? It is.
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He came on my show and he had a beautiful
switter on and I admired his sweaters, like cardigan, a
male cable knit cardigan. Twitter. Next day I got a
box from the store where he had bought his and
he and he sent it to me. You know. Once
I was in Atlantic City and he and I were
both performing in the same casino, and he asked They
asked me at the casino. They said, Bill Cosby wants
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to say hello to you. Will you go up to
his hotel room? And luckily I was with four men
and that we're working for me, and I brought them
with me up to the hotel room. But when I
showed up with those four guys to his hotel room,
he was pissed, what do you what do you? What
are you guys all doing here? And they're like, well,
we worked with Chelsea goes you work. I had one
guy who was opening for me in my opening comments.
Do you think he had yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, his
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plan was thwarted. Huh oh dear, that's a said. That's
the said part of the last I guess five years right, yes,
that whole thing. Well, in two thousand and seven, you
became the second woman in the history of television to
host a late night gig, after Joan Rivers. Right, yeah,
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and uh so this is a monumental accomplishment. How did
you celebrate? I celebrate, you know what. I I celebrated
by really highlighting all of the other people that were
on that show with me, all the comedians that came
out of that show, of which there are so many
that whose careers were launched on that show, like Fortune
Feemster and Lonnie Love and Kevin Hart was a part
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of that show. Tiffany had it, Don't Love Kevin Hart Tiffany.
My gosh, I did a skit with them. I mean
I couldn't talk as fast as they could talk. Oh yeah,
but both of them, I mean, heaven cannot shut up.
They can't stop talking. Every time you turn on the TV,
he's doing another commercial, and like, are you filming these
commercials while you're sleeping? Right? It's so funny. So then
you you did all this this stand up comedy, You
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did your shows, and then you started writing books. What's
the process for you for writing a book? For me,
it's it's long and painful. Yeah, and even though I
am writing my hundred book, what yeah, hundred have hundreds?
How's that possible? Well, because I've had help along the way.
But I've been writing books on various subjects, all relating
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to living. But um, but the processes, you know, it's difficult.
And we have to take pictures too, your books. At
least you don't have to take pictures. Well, that would
make it easier, I think, right, taking the pictures, writing
to pictures is easy, it's easier. But what's your process?
My process is I just started. I just signed a
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new Boo deal, so I'm starting my next book and Uh. I.
My process is I just throw it all down, like
I love the art of language, and I just I
start writing. You know, in the beginning, I just throw
it out and I put in a lot and it
becomes a lot of noise in the beginning. And then
it's kind of that process that I described for the
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stand up where you start refining it, you know, I
throw it over to my editor. That's what I love
about writing a book is having a sounding board in
an editor, you know, who can kind of say, okay,
this is gonna work. It helps you shape it because
that's what I have, all the material that's all in
my head. I have stories and personal stories and you know,
and memories that I can always share and I can
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in check that with humor always that's no problem. But
it's the shape of the book to make it, you know,
you know, to me do an outline first, No, I
just start writing. I just start, you know, writing stuff down,
and then well the working title is called the Filipino
in Me, and uh, we'll see if that title sticks.
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But yeah, I'm going to write about my love store.
I think it's really important to inspire all the people
that are in my age group that may give up
or think they're too old to meet someone, or you know,
people lower their standards a lot because they think they're
they freak out about not meeting the right person. And
I want to just remind women and men and everything
in between that you do not ever have to lower
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your standards because as long as you hold your standards
at a certain level, that's where the person is going
to come meet you. So it's self help in addition
to yeah, it's yeah, but it'll be funny and I
have my stand on it, you know. Tongue in Chief.
Have you been to the Philippines. I'm about to go
to the Philippines because he's got a big movie premiere
there for his movie. Oh is he a producer, No,
he's an actor a movie. Yeah, it's called Easter Sunday,
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And we're going to go to the Philippines for my
very first time. And uh, yeah, I can't wait. Have
you been to the Philippines? Yes, I had the best
trip to the Philippines. Oh my gosh. We went to
Manila and then went out for Manila to the rice patties.
There's aishous food in the Philippines. Wait till you wait,
you visit some of these amazing restaurants and uh, and
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I learned how to plant rice, and I visited a
lot of crafts people who do beautiful, beautiful work there.
You know, that's been one of the big manufacturing centers
of the world of Philippines. And uh. Also I met
a lot of very interesting people. Yeah, so you'll have
a fabulous time. I'll give you my gener if you want. Oh,
that would be great. Yeah, I love that. You should
see a lot of this stuff. And there's it's just
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a it's a very very beautiful country and you just
have you have to get out of the city a
little bit, make sure you see the landscape. Yeah. And
Filipino people are beautiful, so just loving and they're happy
and they love karaoke. Yeah. Yeah. In your business, you
also had to deal with hecklers and haters and how
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do you deal with that. I'm pretty good at shutting
them up pretty quickly. I don't really have a high
tolerance for people interrupting my show. But you know, I mean,
ever since the Dave Chappelle thing happened, people are talking
about that or the Chris Rock thing previous to that.
At the Academy Awards, I mean hopefully that is. You know,
everyone has had to double up on security that's doing
live shows, and that includes me. But yeah, I do,
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you know, have security. I don't let that guide my
performance or have fear of that, you know. I just
kind of go out there and do my thing, and
and I hope that nobody's wasting money paying on paying
that amount of money to come interrupt a show. You know,
they're just gonna get removed anyway. What do you think
Chris Rock's gonna do? Um? I think he's handled himself
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with a lot of a plumb. I think that he's
he did the right thing. The question is, what's Will
Smith gonna do? You know, he's the one who looks
like a real jackass. Well, what is going to happen
to him? I don't know. I mean he's banned from
the Academy Awards, so that's something. You know. That kind
of behavior was just so shocking. Do you remember watching that? Yes,
I was just I was in my kitchen watching the
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Economy Awards and I was utterly shocked. I thought at
first it was an act. Yeah, I think a lot
of people did. Yeah. I was just like, what would
I mean? I just can't imagine taking those steps on
the stage thinking you have the right to get up
on that stage and smack somebody like it just didn't
didn't didn't make any sense at all. It's really embarrassing
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for him, Well it is. It's after such a fine performance. Yeah,
you'd way to take the moment out of it, you know,
it was, it was horribly What makes the excellent comedian,
because I mean, you you have done so much, You've
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you've transformed your comedy a lot. You think about it
a lot, I guess, But what makes the really really
great comedian? Now in retrospect, I think being a really
good listener, because what you're doing is observing and paying
attention to other people's behaviors and yourself. So you have
to have the gift of self awareness, a you have
to be aware of how you behave in this world,
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because it starts with the self deprecation, Like any real
comic has to start talking about their shortcomings and their
behavior that's embarrassing. And then and then, and it's being
an observationist. So it's about watching people and really having
a curiosity in my opinion, about other people. So do
you invest in other comedians? Yes, oh yeah, all the time.
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I have deals in my production company developing comics. I
always bring female comics on the road to open for me.
You know, I am always looking. I love to make
sure that I have my finger on the pulse of
So when you go through Netflix, now there's a whole
line just for comedy. Um like the Mrs masl Yeah,
what do you think of her? Well, that was comedy
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in like the forties or fifties, so not really my
cup of comedy. But I love the show and I
love Rachel, but it's not like, you know, that's not
funny anymore. It's like Lenny Bruce kind of comedy, you know.
But she has a she has a mole phoner. Oh yeah, yeah,
she has her mouth on her. But that's funny, like
you know, in the time frame it took place, it's funny.
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But nowadays, if you saw a woman up there saying that,
you'd be like, what is this, you know, and who's
the who's the up and coming comics you excluded? Of course?
Um on right now. Oh, there's a few. There's a
Rosebud Baker, Matteo Lane, Vanessa Gonzalez. Yeah, so women and
a guy Matteolane. Yeah, yeah, and he's he's something. Matteo
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Lane is awesome. Do you know, No, I've just I've
just watched Oh yeah, yeah, incredible. Yeah. So there's comedy
just keeps evolving. Yeah, I mean right now is a
really good time for comedy because there's so many people
coming up, so many young promising comics, and there's a
diversity in comedy like that is loud Now there's so
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many Asian comics, there's so many black comics and that
are getting the attention that they deserve. So we're not
just seeing kind of you know, for a long time,
there was like, you know, if Chappelle was the black
comic or Kevin Hart. Now there is a plethora of
them and that are getting their do and that's really
nice to see because you know, white guys have had
their kind of comedy being uh aired and getting like
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the advantage over everybody for a really long time. It's
a male dominated field, so it's nice that it's opening
up for women and for minorities in the way that
it has been. And what about Robin Williams. He was
one of my very, very very favorite people. Yeah, um,
what did you think of his oh, I mean he
was have a computer mind. Yes, he had something special,
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extra special going on. His daughter, Zelda I ran into
recently at um at the festival for Netflix, and she
it's so funny because she has his mannerisms and yeah,
and she sounds like him. And and my boy no
she's not, she's a director, but she, uh, my boyfriend's like,
oh my god, Zelda sounds exactly like Robin Williams. And
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when you watch Robin Williams, like they dected him into
the Hall of Fame to the same night as Joan Rivers,
and you watch him and you're just like, oh my god,
this guy is otherworldly, Like you know, that's a cut
above a comic. Like he had something extra special going on.
I adored him him amazing. You spent some time with
him in Yeah, he came on my show and and
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it was just like it was just like being with
something other than a human being. Really, it was really
like being with someone who thought faster, talk faster, reacted
faster than anybody I've ever been with. Yeah everything, yeah, right,
and it was like just unusual. Yeah, he had a charge,
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a charge, and like a charge extra supercharged. He was
like a Tesla, but a human my Tesla by the way,
Yet yesterday and this heat lost its air conditioning. No, yeah,
I was really not happy. No, I bet I would
not have wanted to be around you. And then I
called the Tesla dealer. You know, No, I didn't quite
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call it Ellen yet, but I'm about to because um,
it's hot weather and I have to drive that car
because I don't want to buy any gas at seven
dollars a gallon, so um. I called the dealer first
and they gave me an appointment for next Wednesday. That's
not good because what do I do it till next Wednesday?
Have to come to the city many times if you
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drive a gas guzzling car. Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Like with all of like, with the heat index going
up the way it is with climate change, how is
air conditioning continuing? It's going to continue because it's going
to be a higher and higher demand. We're gonna have
to have it on all your lockout And I know
it's gonna happen everywhere. There's gonna be air conditioning blackouts
starting already in the Midwest and in the West and
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South you know Texas, Like but um, but I'm mad
about my Tesla. Yes, and I love my Tesla. Yeah.
I love my Tesla too. I I hear you believe me?
You have one? Yeah, I have one too. Yeah. Another
question about comedy again, What won't you talk at out
because this is this is something that people do. Put
up walls around there, or do you talk about everything?
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I think I've talked about everything. I mean, I try
not to make fun of like ugly children, you know,
that's pretty much off limits. Going after children, you know,
or anyone who's handicap that's off limits. But yeah, I
mean it. So you know, you can be clever and
still be respectful to people without subverting your comedy. Like
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it's people are complaining about how hard it is to
be funny in this politically correct world. It's like, actually,
all people are asking is for people not to be
sexist or racist, Like that's not at all order. It's
kind of easy to do that, And if you can't
be clever with those parameters in place, then you should
probably rethink what you're doing. You know, comedy is about
making things funny, and you know your point of view,
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so I don't find that too limiting. Chelsea, you are
an amazing person. You are a phenomenal comedian, You are
a wonderful business woman. You are on your on your way.
I mean you've been on your way, but you are
on your way towards greater and greater things. And I
really appreciate you taking the time to visit me here
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in New York in my office speak with us. I
was supposed to, by the way, I just want all
the listeners know, I was supposed to go to Martha's farm.
And that was a something like a two hour drive
that I was willing to take because I said, you
know what, I'm not going to pass up Martha's farm.
I'll invite you with another non business Okay, you'll come
to a party or something. Do you live in New York? Ever? No,
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but I'm here a lot. Where do you stay in
Oh I'm not gonna ask you where you stay in
New York. Do you want your you want your hecklers
to be out there? Oh? My gosh, Well never. We
will never tell you where Chelsea stays in New York.
But she will be visiting me at my farm where
everybody knows I live and you know, yeah I live. Um,
but but it's been a pleasure having thank you, thank
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you so much. A
Can you mention me in one of your Oh I
always talk about you, Martha, don't That's how I opened
and closed my shows. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Chelsea Handler
is a stand up comedian, New York Times bestselling author,
television and podcast host, and businesswoman. Many of you know
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her from her well known late night talk show, Chelsea Lately,
which aired on the E Network for seven seasons. Her
work has also been featured on Netflix and HBO Max.
Some of you may remember Chelsea was on my h
G t V show Martha Knows Best, where I showed
her how to make a delicious apple cider cocktail, and
of course everyone remembers how she tried to emulate my
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famous pool selfie that I choke back in at my
former home in East Hampton. Welcome to my podcast, Chelsea.
Oh hi, Martha's so good to see you. Well, we
just finished your podcast, which was very enlightening. I know,
I mean, this is Dr Chill. See yeah. People call
in for real life, like life problems, interpersonal affairs. Some
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people are in bad relationships, bad working environments, and I
have to kind of try and help and you can
help them, that's right, which is amazing. Well, I've anointed
myself as psychiatrist in very loose terms only because I
got so much out of my own therapy experience. I
absorbed so much information that I couldn't wait to spit
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it back out and kind of share it without yourself.
I was. I think I was in bestudent, because you
really are regurgitating advice from psychiatry that you know. I
I feel like I feel like you are psych Well,
thank you, that's exactly the impression I'm trying to make. Huh, well,
that's very interesting. Well, I yet also I wrote a
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book when I got when I went to therapy, I
was so enthralled by all this information that I was
learned and I had I was learning. I had all
these light bulb moments where he would explain my behavior
and why that was, you know, something that was represent
ended up of something that happened in my childhood, which
you know, earlier in my life. I thought all was
just a bunch of horse I'm like, what does my
childhood have to do with my adulthood? And I didn't
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want to spe one of those adults who spent their
adulthood getting over your childhood, you know what I mean?
I think it's a I think that's the worst thing
a person can do. Yeah, relive or imagine would affect
you had as a child on your future life. I
just can't. I never think about that. Yeah, yeah, well
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maybe I should. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, they
say an unexamined life, you know, isn't a life not
worth living. But some people don't need to examine their lives.
Other people really need to get get it straight. So
I couldn't wait to share what I learned, and I
wrote it in my last book, and then I'm turning
that book into a TV show, so it just kind
of keeps. It's well, we haven't titled it yet. It's
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at Peacock. We just turned our script in, so, uh,
I don't know. It probably won't be the same name
as my book. We'll have to come up with a
new structure series. Yeah, me starring in it one, you're
gonna start. Great, that's something to look forward to. Yeah,
So how are yourselfies coming along? Well, I mean I'm
waiting for you to inspire me because when I saw
that pool selfie of you in I just that was
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during COVID in lockdown, and I thought, oh, I could
do that pose, and I I got right into my
bathing suit and went down to my pool, and I
did my hair and makeup as close to yours as
I could, and I put that right out there and
it was such a big hit. And then you were
your typical self by commenting on your pool being nicer
than mine, which actually seth Meyers also confirmed he thought
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was nice. Yeah, I think most people are going to
think that your pool is nicer than mine, and I'm
fine with that. I'm just gonna might have to it
might have to do another one because I have a
new pool. Okay. Well I'm also building a new pool. Okay,
well I'm going to do another pool selfie and see
what we come up. Where are you based out of now?
Because Bedford, New York. Okay, I have a beautiful pool
in my fool and it's enclosing a red beach hige
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and it's very very pretty. Do you spend a lot
of time in the pool? No? No, no one, No
one who has a pool really goes into the No.
I do go in, but but I don't have time
so much. It's late at night that's when I usually
go in. I don't have a really nice hot tub
with lots of jets. I had to put extra jets in,
So that's like, you know, it's like a jacuzzi. Yeah,
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and that's what That's what I really like, is the jacuzzi. Yeah.
And swimming laps is fun but boring. Yeah, swimming is boring.
Never Mark spits, remember Mark spits, the swimmer, the Olympic swimmer. Well,
he remember him saying, you know, because he had to
swim lap after lap after lap, thousands and thousands, he said,
I just imagined some beautiful girl at the end of
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each lap. But you know, you sort of run out
of beautiful men to think about at the end of lap.
So the thing I like, Yeah, that's swimming. I do
find boring. I mean, most exercise can be boring if
you overdo it. But I remember reading Katherine Hepburn's biography.
Kate remembered and she would get up in the morning,
and she lived on the in Connecticut, right and she
would jump into the freezing cold Pacific and swim and
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laps every single morning. And I she attributes her mental
clarity and her strength to that. And I think there's
a lot to be said about diving in the ocean
and swimming like that. Well, good for her, It's good
for her. It really is amazing to swim in the ocean.
So aside from all these thirst traps, um, we have
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something else in common. You were also one of six
children born in New Jersey, as I was, and what
affections that had on you just being part of a
big family. Are you a close knit family? Yes, we
are pretty tight we have There are six of us
minus one. My brother passed away when we were little.
He had an accident, so there are five of us.
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I think that event probably brought us together even more. Um,
but we're very tight knit. And you know, my brothers,
some of them have been married to people and our
our family that you know, don't fit in and as
nicely with the core group as as we would like.
But then you know that's part of people getting married,
your brothers and stirs. So are you friendly to those
people or do you do you turn your back on
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those people? Know where we do our Yeah, we make
it work. We make it work, and we're all very
kind of politically aligned, so we don't have any of
that drama. I'm the youngest, I'm the most spoiled. I
was always the most spoiled because my parents were a
little bit um lame. They just kind of by the
time they had me, they had the run out of
parenting um at energy. So my brothers and sisters were
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kind of left to spearhead my childhood. So they all
I'm very spoiled. I was very much the youngest, and
now I'm in charge of all of them, Like I
make the decisions about where we're going, what vacations were taking.
We go every way Christmas, we go to the Marthe's
vineyard every summer, and I basically am in control of
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the family. So being the youngest and the oldest, I
think simultaneously, are there any other actors or comedians in
your family? No? No, just me? And did you know
at what age did you know you were going to
be a comic? I never knew I was going to
be a comedian until I moved to Los Angeles, and
I just wanted to be like I wanted people to
know me and know who I was, Like I'm more
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had a desire to be well known, to be honest.
And then when I came to California and uh, somebody
introduced the idea of stand up comedy, which was so scary,
you know, getting on stage alone and with what and
saying what. And I remember going to a comedy club
and I just thought, oh my god, you know, this
is gonna give me diarrhea. I can't ever do this.
It's too scary, it's too intimidating. And then I just thought, Oh,
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you're on stage with a microphone and you're the only
one allowed to talk and no one can interrupt you. Like,
that's a great idea for me. And then I just
mustered up the courage and I started doing a big talk,
like the way you are very good talk and talk
and talk and talk very um you know, like I can.
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I can engage with almost anybody. And I like that.
I like learning about people, and I like expressing myself
and I love the art of language. You know. That's
why I like writing books as well. And that's why
I love stand up is because you're articulating something and
you're expressing yourself. And I love words and putting them
together in a way that makes somebody think. And you
don't get tongue tied, Uh No, not not really. Sometimes
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I do. Yeah, sure I have been tongue tied or
I've said the wrong thing. Or you know, spoken too fast.
I'm definitely done. When you're doing your stand up Do
you have a do you have an earpiece in anybody?
Remind you of something? No, that I just have memorized.
You do, like, you know, on a tour, I'm probably
on my I'm still on my tour. I just announced
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another twenty two dates, so I will have done at
the end of this tour, probably a hundred and twenty dates.
So after you you know, I start out with like
nine pages of notes of what I'm going to say,
and then, as you know, the shows go on, you
condense it, you edit. It's kind of like writing a book,
and then you get off script and you memorize it.
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At what point in your career did you realize that
this was what you were meant to do? Um, I
feel like I wouldn't be able to do much else,
you know. I tried to be temp like a temp person.
I tried to work in offices when I was in
my twenties. I waited tables. I got fired from almost
every job. I was terrible with people when they were
telling me what to do. I remember being an intemp
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office trying to transfer a call like from the front
desk into the partner's offices, and it was such a
debacle that somebody one of the partners called and said,
who is this bimbo that we hired at the front desk?
You have to get rid of her. And I was like, oh,
that's me. I said, I'm so sorry. I don't know
how to transfer phone calls. He's like, that's all you
have to do at this job is transferred phone calls.
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So I just my My sister always said it perfectly.
She said, you know, you're not good at anything else,
and you won't be not good at any of the
things that you can do. I'm not domesticated in any way.
Um so yeah, this is pretty much my purpose, I
think is to share. So what what age were you
when you became Chelsea Handlers? Um? Well, I had a
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pretty pretty big, you know, impression of myself. Early on,
I had a lot of misplaced confidence. But when I
became well known, I was probably thirty, So I'm not
not old. You were young, yeah, thirty, But you know
when I was waiting tables from like twenty eight, thinking well,
it's eight years enough, it's a it's long enough to
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be scared that it might become permanent and that I
might be waiting tables for the rest. What was what
was the first thing that you knew that you were
going to make it? Um? Well, yeah, I got a
lot of development deals, like an NBC development deal, which
is where they would see you do stand up and
say we're gonna build a TV show around you and
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they'd pay you like a hundred thousand dollars. At the time,
I was a waitress. The first time I got that deal,
I was like, WHOA, I can this is it? Like
I can retire? And then you realize, no, You're not
gonna be able to retire on a hundred thousand dollars
because you have to get half of it a I
to you know, taxes, commissions, etcetera. But when I really
made it was probably I had a couple of big
breaks before my show Chelsea Lately. But Chelsea Lately and
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my books kind of coalesced at the same time and
it was kind of a um perfect storm. So I
think that's when I really when I became kind of
like a household name was during Chelsea Lately. It was
such a great shows seven seasons and we had so
much I mean, we laughed our asses off doing that show.
It was just one big audience left. Yeah. Yeah, it
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was really fun. And then you started your own production company. Yeah,
so you're you're really incorporating good business with with your comedy.
I wanted to ask, what's the difference between a comic
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and a comedian? Is there any difference? No, not really,
You're rather be known as a comedian comedian without being
a without it being like female. You know, yeah, comedian
seems a little bit passe. And do you have who
who were your mentors in comedy? Um? Who who are
your heroes? Well? I don't know about mentors. I don't
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really I didn't. You know, I was so arrogant when
I was coming up, Like I really thought I could
do it all by myself, and any of my success
was was from me. You know. I recently inducted Joan
Rivers into the Hall of Fame. And I remember being
on E and she was on E and she would
try and you know, kind of engage with me or
hang out and I just kind of had no time
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for her. And and and recently when I inducted her
into the Hall, uh for Netflix, I you know, I
spoke about that, like how I didn't realize how important
and integral she is and every female comedian's past. She
was doing stand up when when women were never doing it.
Wasn't she the first big stand up coming Philis Diller
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and Joan Rivers? I believe. Yeah, I'm sure we're forgetting
a couple, but those women were out there when it
was a total man's game, you know. So when I
was coming up, you know, to not give credit where
credit is due is you know, something that I regret
and not you know, and now really understand more comprehensively
how important it is to recognize the people who open
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those doors for you, because you know, somebody always came
before you. So you haven't You haven't told me who
your heroes were. Oh so, I guess in hindsight, she
would be a hero of mine. As far as a mentor,
Jay Leno was really good to me when I was
coming up. He had me on his show all the
time doing kind of remote sketches and he was a
good mentor. Again, we didn't have like a personal off
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camera relationship as much, but he was sweet to me.
And uh, yeah, I guess you know, I don't really
think the old timers, No, No, I wasn't really in.
I was who did you loved? Who did you loved?
Jerry Lewis? Did Bill Cosby? So look where that got me? Well,
you know he was on my show. I remember what
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a fantastic man he was. What the hill happened? Oh
my god? Yeah, well we were all duped. I remember
growing up watching Bill Cosby thinking I wish my father
had together, like that had been his own, you know,
O B g y N office in our house, Like
how great they live in this beautiful home. Now we
know what he was doing in that O. B g
y N office. I know, isn't it crazy? Yeah? It is.
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He came on my show and he had a beautiful
switter on and I admired his sweaters, like cardigan, a
male cable knit cardigan. Twitter. Next day I got a
box from the store where he had bought his and
he and he sent it to me. You know. Once
I was in Atlantic City and he and I were
both performing in the same casino, and he asked They
asked me at the casino. They said, Bill Cosby wants
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to say hello to you. Will you go up to
his hotel room? And luckily I was with four men
and that we're working for me, and I brought them
with me up to the hotel room. But when I
showed up with those four guys to his hotel room,
he was pissed, what do you what do you? What
are you guys all doing here? And they're like, well,
we worked with Chelsea goes you work. I had one
guy who was opening for me in my opening comments.
Do you think he had yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, his
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plan was thwarted. Huh oh dear, that's a said. That's
the said part of the last I guess five years right, yes,
that whole thing. Well, in two thousand and seven, you
became the second woman in the history of television to
host a late night gig, after Joan Rivers. Right, yeah,
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and uh so this is a monumental accomplishment. How did
you celebrate? I celebrate, you know what. I I celebrated
by really highlighting all of the other people that were
on that show with me, all the comedians that came
out of that show, of which there are so many
that whose careers were launched on that show, like Fortune
Feemster and Lonnie Love and Kevin Hart was a part
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of that show. Tiffany had it, Don't Love Kevin Hart Tiffany.
My gosh, I did a skit with them. I mean
I couldn't talk as fast as they could talk. Oh yeah,
but both of them, I mean, heaven cannot shut up.
They can't stop talking. Every time you turn on the TV,
he's doing another commercial, and like, are you filming these
commercials while you're sleeping? Right? It's so funny. So then
you you did all this this stand up comedy, You
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did your shows, and then you started writing books. What's
the process for you for writing a book? For me,
it's it's long and painful. Yeah, and even though I
am writing my hundred book, what yeah, hundred have hundreds?
How's that possible? Well, because I've had help along the way.
But I've been writing books on various subjects, all relating
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to living. But um, but the processes, you know, it's difficult.
And we have to take pictures too, your books. At
least you don't have to take pictures. Well, that would
make it easier, I think, right, taking the pictures, writing
to pictures is easy, it's easier. But what's your process?
My process is I just started. I just signed a
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new Boo deal, so I'm starting my next book and Uh. I.
My process is I just throw it all down, like
I love the art of language, and I just I
start writing. You know, in the beginning, I just throw
it out and I put in a lot and it
becomes a lot of noise in the beginning. And then
it's kind of that process that I described for the
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stand up where you start refining it, you know, I
throw it over to my editor. That's what I love
about writing a book is having a sounding board in
an editor, you know, who can kind of say, okay,
this is gonna work. It helps you shape it because
that's what I have, all the material that's all in
my head. I have stories and personal stories and you know,
and memories that I can always share and I can
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in check that with humor always that's no problem. But
it's the shape of the book to make it, you know,
you know, to me do an outline first, No, I
just start writing. I just start, you know, writing stuff down,
and then well the working title is called the Filipino
in Me, and uh, we'll see if that title sticks.
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But yeah, I'm going to write about my love store.
I think it's really important to inspire all the people
that are in my age group that may give up
or think they're too old to meet someone, or you know,
people lower their standards a lot because they think they're
they freak out about not meeting the right person. And
I want to just remind women and men and everything
in between that you do not ever have to lower
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your standards because as long as you hold your standards
at a certain level, that's where the person is going
to come meet you. So it's self help in addition
to yeah, it's yeah, but it'll be funny and I
have my stand on it, you know. Tongue in Chief.
Have you been to the Philippines. I'm about to go
to the Philippines because he's got a big movie premiere
there for his movie. Oh is he a producer, No,
he's an actor a movie. Yeah, it's called Easter Sunday,
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And we're going to go to the Philippines for my
very first time. And uh, yeah, I can't wait. Have
you been to the Philippines? Yes, I had the best
trip to the Philippines. Oh my gosh. We went to
Manila and then went out for Manila to the rice patties.
There's aishous food in the Philippines. Wait till you wait,
you visit some of these amazing restaurants and uh, and
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I learned how to plant rice, and I visited a
lot of crafts people who do beautiful, beautiful work there.
You know, that's been one of the big manufacturing centers
of the world of Philippines. And uh. Also I met
a lot of very interesting people. Yeah, so you'll have
a fabulous time. I'll give you my gener if you want. Oh,
that would be great. Yeah, I love that. You should
see a lot of this stuff. And there's it's just
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a it's a very very beautiful country and you just
have you have to get out of the city a
little bit, make sure you see the landscape. Yeah. And
Filipino people are beautiful, so just loving and they're happy
and they love karaoke. Yeah. Yeah. In your business, you
also had to deal with hecklers and haters and how
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do you deal with that. I'm pretty good at shutting
them up pretty quickly. I don't really have a high
tolerance for people interrupting my show. But you know, I mean,
ever since the Dave Chappelle thing happened, people are talking
about that or the Chris Rock thing previous to that.
At the Academy Awards, I mean hopefully that is. You know,
everyone has had to double up on security that's doing
live shows, and that includes me. But yeah, I do,
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you know, have security. I don't let that guide my
performance or have fear of that, you know. I just
kind of go out there and do my thing, and
and I hope that nobody's wasting money paying on paying
that amount of money to come interrupt a show. You know,
they're just gonna get removed anyway. What do you think
Chris Rock's gonna do? Um? I think he's handled himself
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with a lot of a plumb. I think that he's
he did the right thing. The question is, what's Will
Smith gonna do? You know, he's the one who looks
like a real jackass. Well, what is going to happen
to him? I don't know. I mean he's banned from
the Academy Awards, so that's something. You know. That kind
of behavior was just so shocking. Do you remember watching that? Yes,
I was just I was in my kitchen watching the
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Economy Awards and I was utterly shocked. I thought at
first it was an act. Yeah, I think a lot
of people did. Yeah. I was just like, what would
I mean? I just can't imagine taking those steps on
the stage thinking you have the right to get up
on that stage and smack somebody like it just didn't
didn't didn't make any sense at all. It's really embarrassing
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for him, Well it is. It's after such a fine performance. Yeah,
you'd way to take the moment out of it, you know,
it was, it was horribly What makes the excellent comedian,
because I mean, you you have done so much, You've
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you've transformed your comedy a lot. You think about it
a lot, I guess, But what makes the really really
great comedian? Now in retrospect, I think being a really
good listener, because what you're doing is observing and paying
attention to other people's behaviors and yourself. So you have
to have the gift of self awareness, a you have
to be aware of how you behave in this world,
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because it starts with the self deprecation, Like any real
comic has to start talking about their shortcomings and their
behavior that's embarrassing. And then and then, and it's being
an observationist. So it's about watching people and really having
a curiosity in my opinion, about other people. So do
you invest in other comedians? Yes, oh yeah, all the time.
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I have deals in my production company developing comics. I
always bring female comics on the road to open for me.
You know, I am always looking. I love to make
sure that I have my finger on the pulse of
So when you go through Netflix, now there's a whole
line just for comedy. Um like the Mrs masl Yeah,
what do you think of her? Well, that was comedy
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in like the forties or fifties, so not really my
cup of comedy. But I love the show and I
love Rachel, but it's not like, you know, that's not
funny anymore. It's like Lenny Bruce kind of comedy, you know.
But she has a she has a mole phoner. Oh yeah, yeah,
she has her mouth on her. But that's funny, like
you know, in the time frame it took place, it's funny.
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But nowadays, if you saw a woman up there saying that,
you'd be like, what is this, you know, and who's
the who's the up and coming comics you excluded? Of course?
Um on right now. Oh, there's a few. There's a
Rosebud Baker, Matteo Lane, Vanessa Gonzalez. Yeah, so women and
a guy Matteolane. Yeah, yeah, and he's he's something. Matteo
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Lane is awesome. Do you know, No, I've just I've
just watched Oh yeah, yeah, incredible. Yeah. So there's comedy
just keeps evolving. Yeah, I mean right now is a
really good time for comedy because there's so many people
coming up, so many young promising comics, and there's a
diversity in comedy like that is loud Now there's so
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many Asian comics, there's so many black comics and that
are getting the attention that they deserve. So we're not
just seeing kind of you know, for a long time,
there was like, you know, if Chappelle was the black
comic or Kevin Hart. Now there is a plethora of
them and that are getting their do and that's really
nice to see because you know, white guys have had
their kind of comedy being uh aired and getting like
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the advantage over everybody for a really long time. It's
a male dominated field, so it's nice that it's opening
up for women and for minorities in the way that
it has been. And what about Robin Williams. He was
one of my very, very very favorite people. Yeah, um,
what did you think of his oh, I mean he
was have a computer mind. Yes, he had something special,
(24:37):
extra special going on. His daughter, Zelda I ran into
recently at um at the festival for Netflix, and she
it's so funny because she has his mannerisms and yeah,
and she sounds like him. And and my boy no
she's not, she's a director, but she, uh, my boyfriend's like,
oh my god, Zelda sounds exactly like Robin Williams. And
(24:57):
when you watch Robin Williams, like they dected him into
the Hall of Fame to the same night as Joan Rivers,
and you watch him and you're just like, oh my god,
this guy is otherworldly, Like you know, that's a cut
above a comic. Like he had something extra special going on.
I adored him him amazing. You spent some time with
him in Yeah, he came on my show and and
(25:20):
it was just like it was just like being with
something other than a human being. Really, it was really
like being with someone who thought faster, talk faster, reacted
faster than anybody I've ever been with. Yeah everything, yeah, right,
and it was like just unusual. Yeah, he had a charge,
(25:40):
a charge, and like a charge extra supercharged. He was
like a Tesla, but a human my Tesla by the way,
Yet yesterday and this heat lost its air conditioning. No, yeah,
I was really not happy. No, I bet I would
not have wanted to be around you. And then I
called the Tesla dealer. You know, No, I didn't quite
(26:00):
call it Ellen yet, but I'm about to because um,
it's hot weather and I have to drive that car
because I don't want to buy any gas at seven
dollars a gallon, so um. I called the dealer first
and they gave me an appointment for next Wednesday. That's
not good because what do I do it till next Wednesday?
Have to come to the city many times if you
(26:22):
drive a gas guzzling car. Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Like with all of like, with the heat index going
up the way it is with climate change, how is
air conditioning continuing? It's going to continue because it's going
to be a higher and higher demand. We're gonna have
to have it on all your lockout And I know
it's gonna happen everywhere. There's gonna be air conditioning blackouts
starting already in the Midwest and in the West and
(26:44):
South you know Texas, Like but um, but I'm mad
about my Tesla. Yes, and I love my Tesla. Yeah.
I love my Tesla too. I I hear you believe me?
You have one? Yeah, I have one too. Yeah. Another
question about comedy again, What won't you talk at out
because this is this is something that people do. Put
up walls around there, or do you talk about everything?
(27:06):
I think I've talked about everything. I mean, I try
not to make fun of like ugly children, you know,
that's pretty much off limits. Going after children, you know,
or anyone who's handicap that's off limits. But yeah, I
mean it. So you know, you can be clever and
still be respectful to people without subverting your comedy. Like
(27:27):
it's people are complaining about how hard it is to
be funny in this politically correct world. It's like, actually,
all people are asking is for people not to be
sexist or racist, Like that's not at all order. It's
kind of easy to do that, And if you can't
be clever with those parameters in place, then you should
probably rethink what you're doing. You know, comedy is about
making things funny, and you know your point of view,
(27:49):
so I don't find that too limiting. Chelsea, you are
an amazing person. You are a phenomenal comedian, You are
a wonderful business woman. You are on your on your way.
I mean you've been on your way, but you are
on your way towards greater and greater things. And I
really appreciate you taking the time to visit me here
(28:10):
in New York in my office speak with us. I
was supposed to, by the way, I just want all
the listeners know, I was supposed to go to Martha's farm.
And that was a something like a two hour drive
that I was willing to take because I said, you
know what, I'm not going to pass up Martha's farm.
I'll invite you with another non business Okay, you'll come
to a party or something. Do you live in New York? Ever? No,
(28:33):
but I'm here a lot. Where do you stay in
Oh I'm not gonna ask you where you stay in
New York. Do you want your you want your hecklers
to be out there? Oh? My gosh, Well never. We
will never tell you where Chelsea stays in New York.
But she will be visiting me at my farm where
everybody knows I live and you know, yeah I live. Um,
but but it's been a pleasure having thank you, thank
(28:55):
you so much. A
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Martha Stewart
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