Ep. 747: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXVII

Mark Kenyon guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Janis Putelis, Clay Newcomb, Brent Reaves, Tony Peterson, Maggie Hudlow, Bear Newcomb, Heather Douville, and Spencer Neuharth.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's media podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the only
game show where conservation always wins. I am your special
guest host today, Mark Kenyon, and this week I'm joined
by Giannis Clay, Brent, Maggie, Bear, Tony Spencer and Heather.
This is a ten round quiz show with questions from

(00:28):
Metator's four main verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking.
And there is a prize. Mediator will donate five hundred
dollars to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. And
today we have a lot of new faces, a lot
out of towners here in the studio, which is exciting,
but two of them our first time appearance folks on

(00:51):
the podcast. Here, we've got Bear and Heather. Heather, how
are you feeling here today?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
That wasn't convincing, to be honest, I'm ready, you're ready? Yeah?
She studied all night.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Heather was thinking she needed to.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Practice for this. Oh how do you practice?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I don't know. You gifted me the game I did.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
We've used all those questions though, so I don't think
they'll show up today.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Here's my only concern, Heather, right out the gate. I
do know that you were not good at guessing people's
ages because you you Yeah. Last night, supposedly separately, both
Corey and Tony told Heather that I am twenty four
years old, and she bought it a blind and sinker.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
It's not hard to do.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Would you have told that joke if she would have
thought you were fifty one?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
No? Probably not. I am, in fact thirty seven. But
if you were to have a specialty in trivia, what
would you think that would be? Is there something that
you're particularly good at or or week in from our
four verticals, hunt, fish, cook, conservation.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Strengths, I'd say traditional.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Knowledge, okay, Jen edgenis culture.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yep, yep? What about you? Bear Well, I'll be honest.

Speaker 7 (02:07):
Every time I listen to the trivia and like keep
track of my score, I'm always like bottom of the pack,
Like I don't know where Brody is pulling out all
this random.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's your dad's fault.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Actually, Brody's almost seventy years old. That's a lot of experience.
That's where that comes from.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Heather guess sixty eight.

Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yeah, I'll study that time.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
They did give me some hints.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
I didn't study, but pollinators I should have studied pollinators.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh yep, butterflies.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
In all honestly, that will help you today. These are
these are here if you are a book reader, that
will help today. That's all the clues I'll give you. Okay, uh, Spencer,
there are a lot of folks here in town. Do
you want to let the audience know why we have
all these hopes?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
In times like once a year, I feel like the
whole crew gets together and we shoot guns and look
at new products and record some podcasts. There's gona be
some fresh voices on radio today. And then Clay Newcomb's
in the in the captain's chair. Just just general moseyan.
That's what bar Newcomb says he does at home that

(03:21):
he every day he does some general moseying to which
is very annoying to his dad Clay. When Clay says, Barry,
what are you up to today?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's it's it's just so nondescript. Yeah, liked for a
lot of activities. It's a perfect word to say to
your parents if you're just trying to be nondescript, like.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
The word aha. It just we're just general mosey. And
it does seem incredibly on brand. That Clay Sons says
something like that, So you've trained him, well, Uh, how
do you feel outside of the driver's seat, Spencer? Is
this like? Do you enjoy this or are you nervous?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I like playing and I wouldn't entrust someone in hosting
if I didn't think they would do a good job.
And as as Yanni had said, having you pace him
for the last ten miles of his one hundred mile
race was what was your reason, Yanni? Because you just
trust that Mark will do like a good job. He'll study,
he'll try hard, right.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
That's right, that's right. And Mark is new to running
ultra running, and I thought that would be a it
would be a good exposure experience for Mark too. He'd
get something out here he'd be appreciative of to be there.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
To your first point, he's just organized, he will try hard,
he'll like put in a real effort. So I think
Mark will do a good job.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
I'm excited, which he did do for me. If anybody's
wondering a great job.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Pacing, Okay, what would have been a bad job besides
just like walking.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Just like not being able to do to do enough talking,
not being able to keep up the positive positivity that's needed.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Would you guys talk about Well, to be clear real
quick before Yanni says anything, a key thing he mentioned
at the very beginning, he was a Mark, I don't
have much of me right now, so don't ask me questions,
do not interview me, just talk at me.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
So I told him. I was like, I got it.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Give me for an interview, buddy.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, Mark was just getting podcast at you.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
That's what I did. What'd you podcast about? Knowing me?
Basically gave him like five book reports.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, I got to know about a lot of books,
some of Mark's new projects he's working on here at
meat Either.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
That was good.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
What else?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh? I told you about my recent backpacking trip with
the kids, some of our fun summer exploits, talked about
my Iowa Dear plans, and and then generally just just
told Yanni how proud I was of him and how
inspiring he was.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
And he wasn't he wasn't quitting. One of another buddy's
pulled up in his truck jamming some Wu Tang for
us to get get me fired up, which was working.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
And while Wu.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Tang's blaring out of the truck, Mark still.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
That's true, I'm also excited because the person hosting get
some constructive feedback from the people playing to which Tony
is here, and you guys have such a good relationship
that I'm certain he will be upset with you at
some point.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I think that's fair. We have that kind of relationship.
I'm excited for that. And there's a little bit of
a withdrawal, I think for Tony because usually when we
have these big meetings here in town, they make us
room together, so usually me and Tony share share one
twin bed, and this time this time we got our
own separate rooms in king beds, so we have not
been as close as we usually are. I'm glad to

(06:38):
be back here with you, Tony.

Speaker 9 (06:39):
I know it's been a nightmare at night because I've
had to just build a little Mark Kenyon out of
pillows and draw a little mustache on it. But it's
not the same snuggling level.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's just different.

Speaker 8 (06:48):
I can tell you some websites for that time.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's not quite the same. Anyways, maybe it's time to
get to the show. I think it is, so I
think that's all the little bits and pieces we need
to do. Can we just can we just get to
the drop.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
Phil, Oh, let's get Can we just get to it?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Look, I need to know what I stand to win everything.
You just tend to win.

Speaker 10 (07:15):
Everything, Gamon suckers.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Phil isn't used to someone asking him to play the drop.
He's used to someone like demanding him. It's like the
difference between asking a dog to sit versus telling a
dog to sit. And Phil hadn't He doesn't normally feel threatened.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Then what's the point?

Speaker 8 (07:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Wait too, sorry about that?

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Is it best to get if we don't know, is
it best to just leave this blank?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Or get go ahead and guess? There's no You're not
gonna lose points for anything, so so give it a shot.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
And funny guesses are funny, but they don't get you
extra points.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and also feel free to like yack it up.
Talk with us makes noise, try to distract other people.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
That there's So when you competition coon hunt, you're you're
in this game that has a bunch of rules that's
very different than if you actually went coon hunt with somebody,
And so you might lose a competition coon hunt by
the rules, but everybody.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Kind of knows who won. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
You kind of like I've been in many hunts where
I was like, everybody in this truck knows my dog
was the best, but you may beat me. That's the
way I feel about trivia, so good A good A
good answer is sometimes better than a right answer.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I want to know what dog that was. Anyways, go ahead,
we will be easing you. We're going to ease you
too into it, as we do every show, because the
first question is multiple choice. All right, so question number one,
the topic is hunting. Let me see the question of
our all right, we go. In the two thousand and

(08:53):
one cult classic hunting themed film Escanaba in the Moonlight,
what was the name of the character who's chevy took
a shit on the side of M thirty five? Is
it a Bobby Goolay from Grand Murray? Is it b
jim er Nagomine from Me Nominee? Is it c Remnar

(09:13):
Florette from Marquette? Or is it d Reuben Shebaggan from Montanagan?
With any of that in English? It's all in Michigan
diese escanab in the Moonlight. It is a terrific film.
I can't wait to ask you all about if you've
seen it, well, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
My friend, we reviewed it for the Meat Eater Movie
Club on Media to Radio.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
I knew it talks about it at some point. So
we'll see if any of you guys are up on
this one. How many of you have seen this movie,
Razor Gain? Oh wow, Oh, there we go too, all right,
how many of you have heard of Escanaba in the Moonlight.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, this was the year you were born, right.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
You know, a roundabout way of founding out about escanab
in the Moonlight, especially being from Michigan. I'm a young
hunting guide in Colorado at this point, and I've been
at it maybe three years, because I've guided these dudes
from Missouri for two years already. Like the third year
they come back, I kind of got like a big group.

(10:19):
It's like one guy, six or seven guys, and I
would just place them all across the countryside. And they
come back the third year and they are fired up.
They're like, Yanni, we found this saw this movie from
the state that you're from.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
It is awesome.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
And like it might've been like their first sort of
like exposure to that you know, north northern Midwest culture.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
That's how I found out about escana the Moonlight.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's it's a cultural phenomena. I would say. I'll read
the question again for those of you listening in the
two thousand and one cult classic hunting themed film Escanaba
in the Moonlight, what was the name aim of the
character who's Jeffy took a chip on the side of
m thirty five? I'm thirty five, but we say it
thirty five.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Spencer. You feel pretty good about this one.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Think I've got this one.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
My top takeaway after we watch this movie was that
I would prefer to watch it as like live theater,
to which I found out they did. It was wrote
I think it was written to be live theater, and
they performed often in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yes, at the Purple Rose. Have you Chelsea Michigan. I've
not seen it live.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Oh, we should make a little meat eater trip to
go and see that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
It'd be terrific. Yeah. Well, I'll save it for after
the quest.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Okay, Phil has your Michigan accent.

Speaker 11 (11:38):
I haven't done a lot of reps with it, but
I'll get cracking on it.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Okay, good, are we good? Do we have answers? Yeah?
Everybody in all right, let's reveal the answer. Heather says, Hey,
Bobby Gulay from Grand Moray Bear says Bobby Gulay, Tony
says Remnar, Spencer says Jimmergomine. Maggie says Jimmer Nogomedy. He
says Jimerngomede. Yanni says Jimmer Negomedy, Brandt says Jimmer Nogamini.

(12:05):
And the correct answer is Jimmer. Well, Yeah, you guys
did well, ah eskanalv In the Moonlight is a bizarre
film from my home state of Michigan. Takes place up
in the up where things are a little bit different.
It is starring Jeff Daniels, the famed actor from Dumb

(12:29):
and Dummer and many other things. It tells the story
of the buckless uper. So this guy named Ruben Sodi
goes up to his family deer camp and has to
kind of face down the fears of becoming the oldest
member of his family too have never killed a buck,
and so it's this tremendous story of a true Michigan

(12:49):
deer camp and hilarious family dynamics, the whole up culture
thing going on, and then some very bizarre off the
wall things come in maybe in the second half of
the of the movie and Mark Kenyon's favorite movie.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Right, it's up there as far as I mean, it's
you watch it on an annual on an annual basis to.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Watch that's probably PG thirteen.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
My kids watch border Line, Mark Borderline, Yes, sorry, you.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Could watch it, watch it with Bear, Yes, yes you could.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
I'm going to add it to my list and make
my kids watch it this weekend.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like to be clear, the first the first the first
third to half of it is very funny if you
get like northern Michigan, northern Wisconsin, northern Minnesota, like deer culture.
The second half is like what happened here? M hm,
So be warned. Okay, are we ready for the second question?
This is a little bit tougher.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Question two, Phil, We already watched that.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
All right. The topic is biology. What is the name
of the famous biologist and author who's most widely credited
with popularizing the term bio diversity? And is it okay
to give a clue? Because I was thinking maybe we
need to give a course.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I mean, if the whole room would agree on it,
But I don't think Clay nukemb would No.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Because Randall said that maybe I should give a clue
on this one.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
If Randall, the anti clue guy, says that you should,
then I think you should.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Will let fill the side fail clue or no clue.

Speaker 11 (14:25):
Well, how many how many people feel confident in this
room they have the correct answer. I'd say that if
two people feel confident, then I don't think a clue
is warranted.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
All right, Well there's only one. Brand and Clay raised
their him. I thought Tony would have this one. Maybe
Brand don't know it. I read what is the name
of the famous biologist and author who is most widely
credited with popularizing the term biodiversity. I'm going to give
a little clue. I only have half clue. If you

(14:55):
were to look at this dude's initials, E is one
of the initials.

Speaker 10 (15:00):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I was like, it's like half the answer. Mark should
get a secret tip from Mark on whichever question I
needed for this.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Good news for you, Clay's I don't think it helped
anyone else. Maggie already had that answer.

Speaker 10 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Randall told me that my questions were tough, so I
want to try to make sure that we don't get
too low of a score here or there? How are
we doing questions or answers? In no one more time
than the question is what is the name of the
famous biologist and author who is most widely credited with
popularizing the term biodiversity. How many of you could give

(15:47):
me a definition of biodiversity off the top of your head.
I'm ready.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Clay can give you like a paragraph of an idea
of what that's I.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
Don't think I could give a very succinct nition.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
The variety of flora and fauna in a given area.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
That's pretty decent.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
All right, we're good answers. Are you ready? Let's see
what you got. Heather thought it was Stephen Ranella there
went with Eldo Leopold, Tony went with Darwin, Spencer went
with Darlin. Maggie went with E. O. Wilson. Clay went
with EO. Wilson. Yanni said Darwin. Brent said Ernest, hemingway,

(16:29):
I'm doing by Arnest. His name is Edward.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Hey, Hey, can I say something about E.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Wilson?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, the correct answer is E. O. Wilson.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
So so he wrote a book called bio Felix, which
Mark Mark would know this, but baophelia. It's an interesting
idea because we're the only species on earth that is
super interested in other species. So biophelia means love of
life as it's and it's actually what kind of makes

(17:03):
us human is our dramatic interest in all these other species.
And I find it interesting because in the Book of Genesis,
the first the first job that man had was to
name and you know, catwar animals. So it's this core
fundamental definer of humanity is very biophilia.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
And so the theory of biophilia explores kind of that
the evolutionary history of why we have that deep connection
to nature and to wildlife. It's very interesting to consider
it and very interesting angle there with the Genesis story.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 10 (17:40):
Well, and EO.

Speaker 12 (17:41):
Wilson is very well known for like studying ants, yes, which.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Is so cool, and that was his first gig.

Speaker 12 (17:47):
He's written in like such such like small degree, like
oh man.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
He's gone, he's gone from the very tiny the very large.

Speaker 12 (17:56):
Yes, And it's like it's not just loving like you know,
the animals we love to hunt are like the big places.
It's looking at like how these tiny little animals function
and it's just mind blowing.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, let me tell you a little more.

Speaker 10 (18:10):
Highly recommend reading EO. Wilson.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
According to the National Museum of Natural History, biodiversity is
the extraordinary variety of life on Earth, from genes and
species to ecosystems and the valuable functions they perform. EO.
Wilson explained it as the very stuff of life. That said,
according to many scientists and researchers, including EO. Wilson, we

(18:33):
are living amidst a biodiversity crisis, with bio biodiversity and
species prevalence plummeting across many parts of the country. EO.
Wilson has written about this extensively. In addition to being
an author, he was a professor at Harvard. He's widely
considered one of the greatest natural scientists of all time.
He won a Pulitzer Prize several actually, I think, and

(18:56):
as you mentioned, he wrote the book Biophilia. He wrote
the book Diversity of Life and Half Earth, which explored
a very kind of moonshot solution to the biodiversity crisis
of somehow to some degree, setting aside half of Earth
to the conservation of nature. Pretty far out idea, probably

(19:17):
not really realistic, but it has led to a more
realistic goal which many are proposing, and many countries are
now pursuing now, which is the thirty by thirty initiative.
So many countries are now trying to conserve thirty percent
of their land by twenty thirty, and that's thanks to EO. Wilson.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
How close is the United States?

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Not very close?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I mean, you know, roughly.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I feel like it was like fourteen percent. That's that
could be wrong, but I feel like it was somewhere
in the teens. And there's a lot of questions around.
A couple of years ago, there was a bunch of
work being done on this, and we started setting aside
something it was like the thirty by thirty at list
or something the Conservation at List, and the big project
being done about three years ago was trying to start
cataloging exactly how we would define these lands that were

(20:03):
technically conserved for the thirty by thirty initiative, and then
how far, what long we were And I feel like
I remember it was somewhere in the teens, But there's
a lot of question around is it actually land versus
marine environments, et cetera. Does it have to be public
land versus maybe like a private lands with a conservation easement.
A lot of questions about question three were ready ready.

(20:25):
Question three, the topic is fishing. What popular game fish
is known to the scientific community by a way of
its Latin name as Megalops atlanticus. What is wrong with you? Yeah,
all right, what popular game fish?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
So we're looking for the common name?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes, what's the common name of the fish? Who is
the Latin name Megalops atlanticus? Megalops atlanticus. Is anyone confident
on this one? Tony, Yes, sir, Maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I feel like I've got a reasonable guess.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't want to give any clues. I want to
talk about it, but I don't want to definitely give
a clue. If anyway, it's just initials, no initial guesses
or no initial clues on this. It is a game fish. Yeah,
you have to be you have to be specific. This
isn't something you can give like a generic So if fish, Yeah,

(21:30):
if it was deer, you need to either meal deer
or white. That's correct, That's correct. You could there's clues
in the name.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
This is such a This is such a mark Kenyon question.
This is just a window your soul buddy.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
This whole show is exactly that total.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
I asked a question I believe in a previous episode
that had the same answer, did you interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Atlantic? That's what's throwing me off. A couple more seconds,
and I want you guys to have your answers in peace. Heather,
throw throw something down there. There's a lot of fish.
There's a lot of fish in your world. Pick a fish,
any fish, Pick a fish. Oh, all right, answers, Are

(22:27):
we good? No? Oh, Maggie, still no, I know that's
not it. Come on ten nine.

Speaker 10 (22:37):
Fine, fine, he's not the answer.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right, let's see your answers. Heather has nothing. Bears
says large mouth bass, Tony says King Sam and Spencer
atlantic tuna, Maggie, striped bass, clay, barracuda. Yanni says tarpin.
Brent says blue whale. The correct answer is tarping Megalops
atlantic is a Tarpan are one of the absolute coolest

(23:03):
fish in the world. I've recently become obsessed with them.
I caught my first adult tarp in the spring. It's
about seventy five pounds, which is maybe four or five
feet long, caught on a fly. Absolutely blew my mind.
They can grow up to eight feet long, they can
weigh well over two hundred pounds. They can live fifty sixty,

(23:23):
seventy years or older. They are, by far, I think,
pretty widely accepted as the most exciting fish to chase
on a fly as far as they feed on the flats,
so they feed in shallow water. They'll chase a fly
just like a bone fish or you know, a big
brown trout or something. But then imagine a six foot
long fish that weighs one hundred and fifty pounds, exploding

(23:46):
out of the air and jumping three, four or five
feet in the air. And these fights with these fish
can last hours. I only had to fight my fish
for something like twenty five minutes, but I know people
who have had a fish on the line for two hours,
four hours, twelve hours. It is mind blowing. I've never
experienced anything like it. I remember when that fish came tight,

(24:07):
when I when I saw this fish coming at the fly.
A strip set the only way I can describe that feeling.
And I think this is something a lot of people
can relate to. It's like if you were holding a
very large dog on a leash and it sees a
squirrel and that moment when the dog you're not expecting it,
but that dog explodes and chasing that squirrel and you're
holding the leash on the other side, and all of
a sudden, that was what you felt, this explosion at

(24:29):
the end of the line. Is that dog tries to
chase the squirrel. That's kind of what that one second
moment felt like when it came tight and uh and
then from there it was just insane.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
So the dragons or all of these questions designed so
you can just brag to the room.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
All of these questions are designed so I can talk
about stuff. I like, that was a great storyline.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You did a great job to transfer in the passion
and energy that. But change this, change this story to
a all going after a bear.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Everyone knows what that feels like.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, Like every part of your story just needs to
be as flashy as possible.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I get that flashy me.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I knew that a squirrel dog would be a little
bitty dog. Yeah that lation it feel like you had to.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Brim on in my mind, I was imagining like a
Great Dane or Rottweiler, like in a city park, right, yeah, yeah,
because because.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
This doesn't know what he's what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Because the thing is like with every other kind of fishing. Usually,
when you feel the take of a fish, there's usually
like a bend in the rod. Right, Your rod's like this,
and you feel like the tunk tunk, and you set
the hook or something like that. But in this case,
there was no rod or real intermediary. The rod's pointing
straight out the fish, and the line is connected straight
from my hand to the fish, so there's there was
nothing else in the way. It was simply my hand

(25:49):
on the line and this seventy five pound fish on
the other straight connection. What's he doing is coffee? I'm
trying to kill myself. All right, we got some you
don't like Atlanta sharping, We can move to question number four.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
That's all right, friend, Question number four, Britt just put
fake poison in this coffee for those.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Who are.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
The story about it.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Cooking, cooking. Question number four, what's the name of the
popular meat pie like dish that's uniquely popular in both
the up of Michigan and Butte Montana. Oh my gosh,
what is the name of the popular meat pie like
dish that is uniquely popular in both Michigan's upper peninsula

(26:44):
in Butte, Montana.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Who makes them better? Yanni, Michigan or Montana.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I've had one in Montana.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Have you, Spencer, I've had one in Butte. I have
not had one in Michigan, though.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
They're dang good in Michigan.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
But claims to have like more Irish, like a higher
density of Irish people than Ireland. Something like that. They
make some outlandish claims about interesting how Irish they are.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's a lot of miners come over to the state.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, oh, that's going to be in the flavor text.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I bet, hmmm, just might be.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Now are there are there two common names for this?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I mean there could be, like the plural and the singular.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
It would have to satisfy that it's the popular dish
in Michigan and Butte, to which I think there's only
one answer.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
There is only one answer, but I would accept the
singular or plural answer. Yeah you have it, don't you? Yeah? Yeah?
How are we? Are we good? I don't think you
have I have to do something. Yeah, no more blanks, Heather,
you got to put a food dish to change it?

Speaker 4 (27:53):
When win the game against Clay that Clay plays where
it's like not actually going for score.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's what you're coming, just trying to make it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Come on, come on, you just like give us show us.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, not off the cup.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh that's probably you were the one who inspired this
very funny, uh video idea, Brent calling folks up in
the middle of the night when they're trying to fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
And I wasn't in.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
It's I'm the producer, behind the scenes, the talent.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, all right, Heather, you in.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
I don't know how to spell it, but I'm guessing
it's wrong. But uh, it's a meat pie dish from
the Middle East, My mom's Middle Eastern and it's called
three I think.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is how you say? It's so good? That's my favor.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It's meat is it? Yes, Yes, it's time. Let's see
your answers. Heather said, Bear said, Shepherd's Pie, Tony Pasty,
Spencer Pasty, Maggie Pasty, clay Min's meat pie, Yanni pass
the Brent pro ge. The correct answer is pasty. A

(29:05):
pasty is a No, it's a savory. It's a savory
handheld meat pie like dish. Imagine like a grown up
hot pocket. According yeah, pasty. According to the Upper Peninsula
Travel and Recreation Association past These were the original fast
food of copper miners and lumberjacks, brought here from the

(29:26):
mining region of Cornwall, England UP, which is Upper Peninsula UP.
Wives would fill the rolled out dough with leftover beef, potato, onion,
and rudebega, fold the pastry in half, seal the edges,
and bake. Legend says the miners would take these golden
pastries into the mines and reheat them on a shovel
over their lantern candles. Pretty cool. I like that. That

(29:50):
was really cool. Mark.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
We recently had a similar question about a similar product
called a kolachi oh that you can find in Texas.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You can find so how many of you have had
a pasty? You three of you? They're good. They're all
over the up. Do they have them up in like
northern Wisconsin at all? I haven't seen them. I don't
go to northern Wisconsin fair enough I do. I've never
seen one. They're worth a try for anyone who's not
had them. Very tasty. You can get kind of different

(30:24):
versions of them. Are they a deer camp staple or not?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Not?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
From my dear camp. But we're below the bridge, so
maybe up in the up So there's the you know,
the Upper Peninsula of Michigan is separated from the Lower
Peninsula by the Mackinaw Bridge, which is this very very
long bridge across the Great Lakes there, and the Upers
would like to say that people like me are trolls
because we live under the bridge. Yeah, and so we
technically can't claim the pasty. That's a up thing. But

(30:52):
when I'm here in Montana, I can claim it. How
do they say it? How do they say that the
pasty or pasties past and they like nasty? Well, I
don't know. They're funny. They've got their up accent, but
I guess to be a pasty good if you want
a pasty.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Bill's been working on his accent over there. Sorry, he
might even debut it on this episode. Said, okay, let's
move along. Question number five. The topic is public lands.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
What public land agency is responsible for managing our nations?
Fifty eight point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas?
What public land agency is responsible for managing our nations?
Fifty eight zero point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas? Yanni,

(31:53):
you looked surprisingly slow on that one. I thought you
were going to be right away.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I just wanted to make sure I was understand in
a question correctly. I'm pretty confident my answer.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, yeah, I think you'll get it. Anybody else feeling
very confident, Maggie was quick. Maggie being involved in the website,
I think has a strong chance of this because I
would think that we've written about this.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
Now I'm questioning myself, really trick, Maggie.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Did you write a little editorial that prefaced the three
UH poaching articles? Was that you that decided to put
in that little editorial up top?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Must not be in the email?

Speaker 5 (32:46):
It came out and Jordan, that was good. I like that, Yeah,
that was good.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Appreciated that this is This is an agency that manages
some segment of our public lands, and they are responsible
for inventoried roadless areas. That is the key. Who has answers?
I have a wrong one. I'll read the question one

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more time and then we're going to wrap it up.
What public land agency is responsible for managing our nation's
fifty eight point five million acres of inventoried roadless areas.
Let's get those answers in here. Heather. All right, Heather

(33:39):
says the USDA, which is the Department of Agriculture, which
does manage the US Forest Service. Bear says BLM, Bureau
of Land Management, Tony says, National Forest Service, Spencer, National Forest,
Maggie National Forest, Clay, US Forests, Yanna, US Forest, Brent,
US Forest. The correct answer is the US Forest Service.

(34:00):
I think that maybe we should give to Heather because
it does fall underneath the USDA, so I would be
willing to give you that one. The correct answer is
the US Forest Service. In two thousand and one, the
US Force Service announced the Roadless Rule, which protected the
US Forest services remaining fifty eight point five million acres
of roadless lands in a nearly undeveloped state. According to

(34:22):
Trout Unlimited, the Roadless Rule was originally created in response
to the growing backlog of costs associated with maintaining the
more than three hundred and eighty six thousand miles of
roads spanning the National Forest System nearly four hundred thousand
miles of roads across the US Forest System. For more
than twenty years, the Roadless Rule has conserved backcountry, public

(34:45):
lands and waters while providing flexibility for the first Forest
Service to steward these high value landscapes through active management
that improves forest health and allows for natural resource development.
These multiple use areas sustained native trouton sand and support
wildlife with unfragmented corridors, and offer irreplaceable backcountry hunting and

(35:06):
angling experiences. But earlier this summer, Secretary of Agriculture Brook
Rowlands announce her department's intentions to rescind the Roadless Rule
and roll back those protections for our fifty eight point
five million acres of our last remaining roadless areas in
the nation. If you want to learn more about that
and the implications for hunters and anglers and wildlife, we

(35:28):
just dropped today an episode of the Wired Hunt podcast
on this very topic with the CEO and president of
Trout Unlimited. His name is Chris Wood, and he worked
at the US Forest Service in two thousand and one
in the late nineties and actually was very deeply involved
in writing the Roadless Rule and coming up with this
whole thing. So it's a very interesting conversation about how

(35:49):
this all came to be, why it came to be,
what it does for wildlife and hunters and anglers, and
what it would mean, if this actually gets.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Removed, Heather, you got a bunch of country in your
neck of the woods right protected by this rule.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
It's a big deal. In with tongus.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
How's this going to affect you?

Speaker 12 (36:05):
Rule?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
You like the rollless rule?

Speaker 10 (36:08):
We got a.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Well, I have a lot of opinions about this whole topic,
more than more time we want to spend here talking
about it. But yeah, we got to protect our our land.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, check it out two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
It's in into infancy. I feel like most big conservation
meaningful bills and x are fifty one hundred years old. Yep,
I didn't know that was so modern.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yep, twenty twenty four years old. Just like, just like
I never thought about that. All right, Films, I believe
it's time for a scoreboard update. Do you have one
of those forma?

Speaker 11 (36:46):
It is indeed in last place. Spent too much time mosying.
I suppose Baron Newcomb has zero points, come up next
to Heather Duville with one. Tony Peterson and Brent Reeves
have two points. Spencer new Hearth and Clay Nucom have
three and tied up in first place. A Giannis putell
Us and Maggie Ubblow with four points.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh, Maggie, could be your day, Megs. So yesterday we
were walking out of the hotel and Tony says to me, man,
nobody understands the amount of micro stress that a game
of trivia costs you, especially especially if you start badly. Tony,
how much micro stress are you experiencing right now?

Speaker 9 (37:25):
He talked about tarpin this morning, and I was like,
there's no way Kenyan's going to be on the nose.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
For sure, you would jump on the first thing.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
That popped in my head. I was like, this is
tarp and I'm like, there's no way he's going to
do that. So I outthought myself on that one.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Good. Yeah, I was. I was trying to kind of
throw a bone to folks, like I've been talking right, No,
I know? Yeah, all right, Well, hey, there's time question
number six. Here's what you gotta get Tony. The topic
is hunting. What was the name of the deer call
introduced in the early two thousands that attempted to simulate
the sound of deer feeding on hard masts to calm

(38:03):
other nearby wildlife. What was the name? Look, he did
know it? Yeah, what was the name of the deer
call from the early two thousands that simulates the sound
of feeding deer supposed to calm wildlife around you. Did
you own one of these? I never owned one of these,

(38:26):
but we like to joke about it a lot, right.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, it's like the banjo minow of white tail, Yes.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Which I did fish on the old banjo.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah did too.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, we used to occasionally. The way we hunted on
public land when I was growing up, you would the
limiting factor was wide oakacres, and so you'd be hunting
a tree that was dropping wide oakakers and there might
not be a tree anywhere near. It'd be like because
there was a lot of cutover pine plantations with these
riparian zones that had oaks, and so you could carry

(39:01):
carry some acrons in your pocket and drop them out
of the tree.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Interesting, I sunk.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
On the ground. You hear him falling.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I just heard another a guy some of these on
the Southern Outdoors and podcast and he was talking about
doing that, going up the tree with a couple of
pockets fulling every now and then drop the Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
They're like so A funny story from Bill Winki, one
of his little tips for when you are like in
a bedding area, hunting deep in there and it's like
late morning and for some reason you want to get out.
You don't want to stay in there all morning, which
in this case, like if I was gonna hunt a
betting are, I'd be there all day. But he said,
if you want to get out, he would. He would
collect acorns on the ground before it went up, and

(39:44):
he'd carry a slingshot with him. And so when it
was like eleven o'clock and he wanted to get out there,
if he saw deer bedded somewhere nearby, he would shoot
them with acorns with a slingshot until they'd run off,
and then he'd walk out. Wow.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
So the category that this all is in. I hunted
down in Texas one time and one of the guides
was telling me about an electronic call that you could
buy that you could hit a button and it sounded
like a feeder going off.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Oh he said.

Speaker 9 (40:13):
He said, they drop guys off and pick him up.
At the end of a three four hours sitting, their
batteries would be dead because those dudents are just letting
their It's good.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Oh man, Okay, do we have is everybody good, yep,
all right, let's see the answers please, Heather said, Randal
hands bear acorn muncher. Acorn muncher pro.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's the kind of answer that gets you the w Tony.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Acorn crunch or Spencer acorn crunch er. Maggie acorn muncher,
Janna said, the muncher said, the browse show or the
let's eat bleep great ideas. The correct answer is acorn
cruncher or cruncher. It's either cruncher or it's popularly known

(41:08):
as the acorn cruncher, but technically it was just called
the cruncher, So either one is okay by me.

Speaker 10 (41:13):
These was so close for pulling an answer out of
my ass.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, I'm giving you. Give me brownie points for that.
According to a two thousand and nine press release on
the Outdoor Wire, the cruncher is a compoc compact handheld
call that simulates the sound of deer feeding on acorns.
This natural sound relaxes deer in the immediate vicinity of
your stand. It can also call in other deer that

(41:37):
think there's food available. It calms spook deer, stimulates deer
to feed, and stops deer in a relaxed manner. Just
like imitating a deer's grunt or recreating the rattling of antlers,
the sound of a white tail feeding on acorns can
cause a positive reaction, so they say. But you know,
as we were talking earlier, it's widely panned. It's a joke.

(41:58):
A lot of people kind of look at it as
as being representative of like all the choshki gizmos that
are marketed to hunters.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
No one does like a white tail hunter. Yes, I
also love the ground grunter that would be in that category, which,
if you're not familiar, you're in a tree stand twenty
feet in the air. The ground grunter is a long
plastic tube that runs to the base of the ground
that you blow into a grunt call in your tree stand,
and that sound travels all the way down and it
comes out at what would be eye level for a deer,

(42:25):
because all the deer are onto you if they hear
a grunt coming from twenty feet in the air. So
that's why you want your ground grunter to produce that
more realistic note.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
After that failed, I called at the urination station.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Have you ever have you seen the butt clicker? It's
so it's the basically supposedly, there's a call that a
buck will make where it makes an individual note of
a grunt and clicks like there's.

Speaker 9 (43:00):
Like, imagine it's a real deal.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
There's a famous story in the nukeom Lore of the
clicking bug that my dad had come in that he
missed and he said it was clicking. It says, make
it individual grunts. But there's a call that's on a
wheel that has a little you like roll it like
the wheel of fortune.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Like that's cool. I love hunting in a place where
you can see mature bucks enough to actually hear these
types of you know, vocalizations like you just don't ever
hear that in Michigan. But I've been in island and
heard so many cool things. Kanas, very fun. Yeah, all right.
Question number seven the topic is public lands. What is

(43:46):
the largest national wildlife refuge in the United States? Very simple?
What is the largest national wildlife refuge in the United
States of America. It's a piece of public land. There's
a bunch of critters out there. The first national wildlife

(44:07):
refuge technically is created by Theodore Roosevelt. Back in the
early nineteen hundreds, there was an island full of a bunch
of birds down in Florida, and the feather hunters, the
folks that were killing birds to make pretty hats for
ladies in the day, were killing all the birds. And
mister Teddy Roosevelt was not a fan of that. So
he got a hold of his folks in the Department

(44:28):
of the Interior and say, hey, is there anything keeping
me away from declaring this is some kind of like
refuge for wildlife? And his staff went looked around and
they said, well, I don't think there is anything keeping
you from doing it. Teddy replied, well, then I so
declare it. And that's how he created I believe that
was Pelican Island. I think was the first one, and

(44:49):
many many more have come since I declare. Yeah, I
so declare it. Mister Teddy Roosevelt.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
That's a lot of power. But our current president know
about that kind of power that you can yield when
you're in the position he might be he might be
interested in dropping a few.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, well, no comment. They have the Antiquities Act today
that Teddy Roosevelt uses well to create our national monuments.
I don't think that folks in power these days like
our national monuments as much as mister Roosevelt did.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Anyone still thinking?

Speaker 5 (45:34):
How are you feeling about this one? Maggie, Oh not
too confident. I like it.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Do we have answers in? Everybody have an answer? All right?
Can we see those answers please? Heather?

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Oh, you got what?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I what I the Tonguest National Forest, Bear says the
Arctic Wildlife Refuge. Tony said the Tonguest, which is the
National Forest. Spencer says the Coutine. Maggie says, the Arctic
place is the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Giannis says the
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Brand says the Oka Pinocchi. And

(46:13):
the correct answer is Clay Newcomb got it right, the
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. So Janni, Yanni got it? And
war what.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
About?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Yes that you were excited about it. This is a
This is a picture. This is an image that I
saw on Instagram of Mark.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, the Arctic Mark.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I actually didn't really realize it wasn't nice.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, thinking about your recent.

Speaker 12 (46:39):
I thought you were spending a lot of time right
in your answer the Arctic.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is approximately nineteen point six
million acres. It's our second largest piece of public land.
The largest is the U. N p r A, which
is the Western Arctic just over on the western side
of Alaska. Uh, this is the very far northeast of Alaska.
And as Clay said, me and Kale just had a

(47:04):
trip up there a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 10 (47:06):
That's how I knew it was going to be the art.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah. Yeah, it was a phenomenal experience. We talked about
it at length in an episode of Media to Radio
Live a couple of weeks ago, and an episode of
I Guess it was on Kale's pod. We did it,
We did an episode of Kale's podcast. But an incredibly
wild place. This encompasses a portion of the Brooks Range,
which is the northernmost extension of the Rocky Mountains. On

(47:31):
the southern side of the Brooks Range, you've got boreal
forest and incredible, you know, kind of inland mountain landscapes.
On the north slope of the Brooks Range, you had
the coastal plain, which is like an Arctic grassland. It's
sort of the equivalent of the African savannah, but our
North American version, teeming with hundreds of thousands of caribou, muscocks.

(47:53):
You know at certain times of the year there are
polar bears or grizzly bears, wolves, all sorts of craters. Uh,
life changing experience for me and Cal to get to
see that place very very worth learning about or maybe
someday seeing. There's amazing caribou hunting, great river floats, terrific climbing, hiking, backpacking.

(48:13):
If you can ever find a way to get there,
highly recommend it. All right, Teddy'd be proud, Yes, yes
he would. He's a big fan. All right. Question number eight,
The topic is fishing. What is the name of the
popular fly casting technique to increase the distance of your

(48:35):
cast by utilizing two distinct polls of your fly Lineberry,
you got this bearing, You're an inspiring fly angler. Yanni
was a fly gud. He's got it, Tony's got it.
Spencer is a spencer. Spencer's a great guy because he

(48:55):
got into fly fishing when he moved to Montana and
then very conveniently kind it got out of it enough
because he got into it so much that he bought
a set of rod tubes. So these are your fly
rod holders that go on top of your truck he
got those few years ago, and then he, I guess,
got to the point where he wasn't using them enough
and was also getting a rooftop tent. So he mentions

(49:16):
to make oh ya, I'm trying to get rid of
my rod tubes. Right at that time, I was thinking
to myself, I need a good set of rod tubes
at the top of my truck. So I got a
sweet deal on some fly rod holders on top of
my truck for mister Spencer Newhart.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
It was the rooftops had to the rod holders, one
had to go, and I picked the rooftop.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
I taught this technique to Spenser questions.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Did he listen? I'm gonna read one more time. What's
the name of the popular fly casting technique to increase
the distance of your cast by utilizing two distinct pulls.

Speaker 10 (49:49):
You know you're talking about those micro stresses.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
Yeah? Are you there enough?

Speaker 10 (49:52):
This is the point where my brain shuts down in trivia.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You know this, I know this.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
I do this Like every time.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
I say it, you're gonna be like, no.

Speaker 10 (50:01):
Don't say it yet.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
God, there's like a very huge clue in the in
the in the you know, I didn't know that I
knew how to do this until I went fishing with
Corey and then he commented on it. So and you're
just kind of doing it naturally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
this is something that really helps, Like when you're a
trout angler, it's not you don't use it as much

(50:26):
when you're fishing small creeks or anything like that, but
if you get into big water, or especially if you
start fishing lakes or saltwater situations, you really need distance.
You need to be able to get that cast out
there fast, and this is a way to kind of
utilize the mechanics of your rod and momentum with your
line to get that to really shoot out there. There's
a lot of similarities between bow hunting and fly fishing,

(50:49):
especially saltwater bow on it or saltwater fly fishing. Yeah,
there's a lot of cross over there, and so with
this technique, you're like, you're shooting your line at a fish.
Pretty cool. Do we have everybody in? Do you have
this right? Clay?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I hate this?

Speaker 10 (51:06):
I hate this game. Why do I keep playing this game?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Maggie?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
This is in your wheelhouse?

Speaker 10 (51:11):
This is I know this answer, but I don't have it.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Let's see your answers. Heather has nothing. Bear says the
double hall, Tony says double hall, Spencer says double hall,
Maggie says, Clay says back cast, Yanni says double hall,
and Brent says double hall. The room did pretty good.
The correct answer is double hall. According to John jurasecond
Hatch Magazine, the double hall is an advanced casting technique

(51:35):
that increases the speed of the line during the cast.
To achieve this, the line hand literally pulls or hauls
on the fly line at select points in the casting stroke,
once during the back cast and once more during the forecast.
Halls themselves directly increase the speed of the line. This
also causes the rod to bend more deeply, and that

(51:56):
deeper bend stores more energy in the rod, and when
the road, when the rod unloads this energy, it transfers
it to the line and gives you all that speed.
So the double hall. On the back cast, you pull
your line with this left hand, you're pulling back line,
and then as you forwardcast, it's like back and another
haul and it shoots that line out just like you're
shooting a bow with an arrow. It really does help.

(52:19):
It's simple, it's kind of a weird thing to try
to figure out at first when somebody explains it to you,
but it's like riding a bike when you kind of
just get the rhythm in your head. It just becomes
very natural and then you always do it. But it
really helps. So if you are getting into fly fishing,
check out The Double Hall. Orbis has a lot of
really good casting videos. I'd recommend Orvis's YouTube channel for

(52:41):
learning some basic fly fishing stuff. The Double Hall definitely
worth knowing. Any questions otherwise, I've got a few more
for you. You've answered everything, Phil, can we get another scoreboard update?

Speaker 8 (52:56):
Yes, Brent, did you get the Double Hall?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yep?

Speaker 8 (52:58):
Okay, I thought so.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Here Heather, we gotta go to ten now.

Speaker 11 (53:06):
In last place is Heather do Veil with one point.
Baron Newcomb got himself a couple of points. He's got
two now after that is Brent Reeves with three. Then Spencer,
Maggie and Clay are all tied up with five points,
and Giannis Butellis is now has has now pulled ahead.
He has six points and is in first place.

Speaker 12 (53:23):
If I didn't have such a brain on that last, yeah,
go Maggie.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
All right, these last. I think that we've got one
that a lot of folks would get. One is gonna
be a little bit tougher. Question number nine, the topic
is natural history. What state in the lower forty eight
has the most glaciers? What state in the lower forty
eight has the most glaciers? It is so much fun

(53:58):
to sit in this seat and not have the micro
stress that Tony talks about. I could really get used
to the spencer. I'm happy to do this anytime. Okay,
start coming to town more. Yeah, count me in.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
I feel like Clan Brent or feeling like they need
to host one of these episodes.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh, I cannot wait. You're welcome to you. Anyone who
wants to host. Mark's got to be here though. Yeah,
Revenge Giving? Which catfish I've in trouble. How many of
you have ever touched a glacier? Play? Yeah, in the

(54:43):
lower forty eight, Clay, No, it's harder to come by,
hard to get close to him, at least in the
lower forty Lay sure.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I think me and you probably had. What I saw
of your experience with the glacier was I think like mine,
it was like seeing a living animal. Yeah, it struck
me like that. I mean, when you see geographic features,
there's a certain response that you have that's that's really
majestic and awesome, you know. Like, but when I saw
a glacier, and I don't want to overexaggerate, but it

(55:14):
was just the truth. It was it almost like took.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
My breath away. Yeah, true, large.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
It sounds dramatic like whatever, but in the context of
being in that kind of wilderness, in that place, being
where I'm from, I mean, it was just kind of
like it was wow. And then and we were a
mile from it, and it it's huge, and we just
keep going towards it, going towards it, going towards it.

(55:42):
And what looks like a fifty foot tall glacier is
like a two I don't know how tall. I still
can't tell you how tall it was. And we were
right underneath it. I don't know if it was five
hundred feet or three hundred feet. Just like the scale
was just like super hard to understand.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, it was pretty spectacular.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Dog on a leash who sponsor black Bear?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, something like that. Does everybody have a have an answer? Yeah?
All right, well let's just get right to it. Heather says,
nothing bear says Montana, Tony says Montana, Spencer Montana, Maggie Montana,
Clay Montana, Yanni, Colorado, Brent, Idaho.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
Wow, guys, nobody got the right.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
The correct answer is Washington Alaska. Alaska has the most
glaciers in North America. Alaska's got around one hundred thousand glaciers,
but in the lower forty eight, Washington State is the winner.
They've got around three thousand of them. And Washington's also

(56:51):
home to the most glaciated single peak, which is Mount Rainier.
Mount Rainier has twenty five or twenty six glaciers on
that one single peak. Terrific place. Washington State's got a
lot of really cool places to go and see these glaciers.
According to the Washington Department of Natural Resources, glaciers form
in areas where snow accumulation persists through time, allowing the

(57:14):
snow to pile up and compact into ice. It typically
takes hundreds of years for a glacier to fully form.
Glaciers behave like rivers of ice, moving, growing and shrinking
over time. They are bounded by the valleys that they
reside in, but they flow under the force of gravity,
and they also advance or retreat depending upon the climate conditions.

(57:35):
They're very cool to see in person. Like you said,
Clay got to get up in close and personal with
the Mendenhall Glacier in southeast Alaska, and yeah, crazy crazy
to see that in real life. It felt like I
was stepping into like some natural history documentary and it
was really cool. You can see how these glaciers are
changing right now. There was a trail that I hiked,

(57:56):
and all along this trail there were year markers that
showed where the glacier used to be, and you could
walk decade by decade and see how the glacier had changed.
And just from nineteen ninety six to now, so I
mean just a little bit less than twenty years, that
glacier had receded somewhere around a mile in a move.
So it used to be I was standing at the

(58:16):
nineteen ninety six mile marker and the glacier would have
be right over my head, and then I'm staring at
a mile away, still huge, but different. So it was
very eye opening to see see that in real life. Yeah, yeah,
quite the spectacle.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Grasshopper Glacier southeast of US. I'm going to hike to you.
Someday there's grasshoppers frozen into the glacier and they're like,
you can't preserve them. People go up and try to
pick them out, but they basically just melt as soon
as they leave the glacier.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Wow, cool stuff, cool stuff, all right. That was question
number nine. So I believe we should have another scoreboard
update and a correct answer review.

Speaker 11 (58:55):
Well, just for the scoreboard update really quick before the
review mark it was a zero per centers. We're right
back where we were, but giannis Is is still ahead by
one point. So it just comes down to this last question.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
But it is I mean, there's a strong competition still
because Spencer, Maggie and Clay all still Yeah, you get it.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
You got this last ques EO.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Wilson behind Eldo Leopold was your first guest, I think, Brent,
that was a decent guest. That was a good guest
until I threw in the initials. Yeah. Sorry, all right,
So the correct answer review is that something you do, Faillership,
I'd review it me, all right. The correct answer to
question number one was b Jim or nagomine from monominee.

(59:37):
Question number two, the answer was e O. Wilson. Three
was Tarpin, four was Pasties, five was the US Forest Service.
Six was the Acorn cruncher also would accept Cruncher. Seven
was the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Eight was the Double Hall.

(59:57):
Nine was Washington State. And that leaves us with question
number ten. For all the marbles, Yanni, are you ready
for this one? All right? You? You could, you could
get this one. Maybe you could win it. Question number ten,
The topic is conservation. Name wrong one film vertical? Yeah?

(01:00:24):
Name the author who wrote these famous words. We simply
need that. We simply need that wild country available to us,
even if we'd never do more than drive to its
edge and look in for it can be a means
of reassuring ourselves of our sanity as creatures, a part

(01:00:47):
of the geography of hope. Name the famous author who
wrote these famous words.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I'm well, I mean, I bet this quote is in
his book, right, mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Name the author who wrote these famous words. He also
has written other books? Famous author, We simply need that
wild country?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Has he published more than one book?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Many?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Does he work here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Maybe I'm giving to any clues? Yeah you did, Yeah
you did.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
You got a good guess.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
We simply need that wild country available to us, even
if we never do more than drive to its edge
and look in. Or it can be a means of
reassuring ourselves of our sanity as creatures. A part of
the geography of Hope. What a hell of a good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Line brushed up on that wild country before I came?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
What helped you? The geography of hope? Isn't that a
great way to refer to this? Isn't that great?

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
Should have just scanned Kenyon's diary one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
You would have won the damn thing if you did that.
Come on, Tony. Unbelievable. I know, I know, unbelievable. I know.
Does anyone feel confident? Well?

Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
I did until he said he's published many books?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Well, he's published more than one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
What kind of books?

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Maybe? E books? Maybe not.

Speaker 10 (01:02:38):
I'm going back to it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
I thought I had a decent answer until I saw
your reaction to Heather's question.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Does he work at the company?

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I can't tell you the answer that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I don't think I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
If it's the person I'm thinking of, I can here.
All right, we probably need to wrap it up, though, folks. Ready,
can we see some answers. Please, Oh, Heather thought it
was Steve Vanella. Bear thought Steve Ronella. Tony thought Elder
Leopold Spencer said Mark Kenyon. Maggie says Mark Kenyon. Clay

(01:03:19):
says Elder Leopoldian says all the Leopold. Brent says Steve Ranella.
That is a zero per center. The correct answer is
Wallace Stegner. Wallace Stagner has written over sixty fiction and

(01:03:39):
non fiction books and is known as the Dean of
Western writers.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
But I bet this quote is in your book, meaning
that Mark Kenyon, an author, wrote these famous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Words in his book. This quote in your book. This
quote is the epigraph for my book. Okay and Maggie.
On the second page of my book is this quote,
and it informs the title of my books.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Author Mark Kenyon wrote these famous words. He wrote those words.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Heart type them into the into the word document. That's true.
I don't think I would have We could go to a.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
Three way tiebreaker if we wanted more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Have you been listening to this argument?

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
You guys didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I think, Phil, Phil, what do you said? Do we
give them that?

Speaker 11 (01:04:29):
I mean, if if, what's what's the spirit of the game.
If we're just having fun, I'd say absolutely. But if
if if you're a se me to be a judge,
I would say, no way, We're here to have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Fun, all right, because then we could have as I mean,
you're right. I did type them into the word document,
the epigram the book.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Well done, Megan, all right, so we go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Wallace Stagner, as I mentioned, he was the dean of
Western Writers. Wallace Yes, and you guys should know Wallacener.
He taught at the University of Utah, Wisconsin, Harvard, and Stanford.
He's recognized as not only one of the greatest writers
coming out of the West, one of our greatest conservationists.
That line that I read originally was a part of

(01:05:12):
the Wilderness Letter. The Wilderness Letter was this letter that
Stegner sent to a Congressional commission back in the sixties
as they were debating the Wilderness Act. Should we set
aside wilderness in this nation? There's a big debate discussion
for years and years about it. Stagner was this famous
professor and author and pulled into a lot of different
administrations to advise on these things. He sent this long, lengthy,

(01:05:34):
beautiful letter which ended up getting published publicly because it
was so influential. And then eventually that Wilderness Letter which
this came from, was actually used as the introduction to
the Wilderness Act. So all of our designated wilderness areas
that we have left in this nation there there because
of this Act of Congress, the Wilderness Act. And if

(01:05:55):
you go and read the text, it has that as
well as a really beautiful pros here talking about the
special places. I'm not going to read it all to you,
but should go check it out someday. Very good. I
just I thought you just did this smart. Yeah, it
was good. All right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
So we've got three way tie that's fun. Hey, we
can just do nine more questions if you want. I'm
having a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
We got meat eat to radio live in a half hour.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I'm enjoying myself. But okay, so tiebreaker question, tiebreaker.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
Like a knife just jabbed me in the temple?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Good And this one's for Tony, So Tony, sorry, you're
not in it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:40):
Well, everybody can play.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Everyone will play a lot because if somebody gets it
right on the nose, then there will be an extra
one hundred dollars donation added to the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
So I sent you the text for the Tiberk question. Yes,
I have it. Okay, let's see it, tiebreaker, how many
acres of lawn grass are in the United States of America?
How many acres of lawn are in our country? Why
is that a question for me? Because you like to
talk about pollinators, and I'm going to talk to you
about pollinators.

Speaker 9 (01:07:10):
I think I speak for everyone in this room when
I say I cannot wait for Spencer to be back
in that scene.

Speaker 11 (01:07:15):
And I've been saying this a lot lately. This might
be our longest episode of Trivia so far, by the way,
I think we're definitely over an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
That's really so, I'm talking too much. Well, no one
gave me a time. I have no idea how many acres?
How many acres of lawn do we have in the
US of A? Who I was later whoever's closest within
the three way tie takes the crown? You gotta Yanni.

(01:07:50):
You know what, Yanni in this room. Yanni probably listens
to more episodes of my podcast than anybody else. That's right,
more than Tony Peterson, more than Tony for sure, more
than ton and and we had a podcast talked about
this pretty recently, so I.

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Didn't listen to that one. I was one of the
ones to tell me how to kill big bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Fair enough, now how to grow them? All right, how
are we doing? It would be good.

Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
I can't wrap my head around this, but sure, yeah,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Let's see what you got, Heather. Nothing bears its fifteen
tony forty point million, forty point one million. I wish
you were in the game. Buddy Spencer's one and one million,
Maggie one point five million, Clay four hundred million, Yannie
three hundred and fifty seven million, and Brent one hundred million.

(01:08:41):
The correct answer is approximately forty million acres. So close, dude.

Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
I've been in the tiebreaker almost every time I've played
trivia and always got my ass kicked.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
And then the number to you recently. Yeah, you're so close.
That is crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
Mark says a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, so we've got about forty million acres of lawn
in this nation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
And did she at one point five?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Oh? Yeah, I guess so Maggie won the game.

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
Yes, flooky thing like that's not even an.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
I'll take a w We're here to have a good time.
Well done, Maggie. The reason this is on my mind
is because, like I said of Yanni, we had this
guy in the podcast named Doug Talomy who is popularized
an idea called the Homegrown National Park idea, which was
this idea that, hey, there's forty million acres of lawn
out there that's lowsy for wildlife, as lousy for birds
and bugs and pollinators in the whole nine yards. So

(01:09:46):
what if we could try to teach people to turn
their lawns into native vegetation.

Speaker 12 (01:09:52):
You know, Mark Kenyon, I have been busting my butt
this year trying to grow some native grasses and plants
on my dirt patch of a new lawn.

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
It is not easy, but we're getting some roots and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Good for you, and that's fitting that you want today.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
It's a three year process. Sleep, leap, no sleep, creep
and leap. Ye first year, give them time, The second
year it creeps. The third year at leaps.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's right there, you.

Speaker 12 (01:10:17):
Go, Well, I'll be dealing with dirty, muddy dog paws
in my house for three years.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
It'll be worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Well well done, Maggie. Who are you going to be
donating your winnings to today?

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
I gotta go with the Wyoming Wildlife Federation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Very good, great organization, very cool. I appreciate you guys
playing along with me. Thanks Mark, Thanks well done everyone,
Good job, Barn, Maggie, good times, Well done every one.
Join us next week for more meaty to Trivia, the
only game show where conservation always wins.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Spencer from South Dakota.

Speaker 12 (01:10:49):
He's the host, using those smooth, mellow tones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
He lays them questions down, and he likes taking those
two and three year old bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
And he's an avid amateur

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Rockhow