Ep. 756: Sounding Off and Feral Hogs | MeatEater Radio Live! - The MeatEater Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the
Metater Podcast. Welcome to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven

(00:29):
a m. Mountain time. Phil's giggling again because I missed
the exact timing of this intro, but oh well, we'll
keep on going. Eleven am Mountain time. That's eight pm
for our friends in Latvia. What up, Linda, gasparskuts bars
everybody else. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, and we're live
from me Eater headquarters in a fall like Bozeman, Montana.

(00:52):
I'm your host, Yannis ptelis joined today by Randall Big,
Randy Williams, and Brody of Care Are you in the
Henderson's Henderson I was a tongue twister. Like I said.
It feels a lot like fall and that has me
fired up. The aspens are showing a sprinkling of yellow leaves.
The high today is only sixty five degrees. I heard

(01:13):
a bugle last night on Tana's archery season opens in
nine days and my broadheads are flying.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh true, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Today on the show, we'll hear about my and Brody's
recent trip to Alaska. An audio project called Hide hunters,
our favorite sounds from the outdoors, and a new trail camera.
Photo contest Rich Frohning is phoning in to tell us
about the hardest moment in CrossFit competition. And finally, we'll

(01:43):
chat with me eater guest star Parker Hall about trapping
feral pigs in Florida to save sea turtles. Boys. Does
it feel like fall to you too?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
It does? But you know, you know summer is coming back.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
I checked the weather today after we because this rain
was unexpected to me at least, I had not been
checking the weather. And then yesterday and today it's all
like coolny, great weather.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
For running in I've been enjoying that.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I haven't done any running.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm just hoping that this puts an end to fire season.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, I didn't check that this morning. Either. Do you
know if any of the fires were extinguished from rain?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No idea, but thinking hopeful thoughts.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
But are you guys jack too. It's not quite September,
but we're almost there. Oh yeah, man, it's like it's here.
It's on Monday is.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Grouse Opener will be out there and that's like the
official start.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm not quite there yet. I'm not quite.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
You're not feeling it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, I'm excited, but I don't feel like it's at
the doorstep quite yet. We've got a little travel up
ahead of us, and.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
His broadheads aren't flying true like yours.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, my broadheads are still hanging on the rack at
a store somewhere because I'm just waiting to burn some powder.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh huh. I know. See, that's the thing you got.
If you want to really get fired up at the
end of August, you kind of got to be an
upland hunter like Brody or an arch tree hunter. Now
you mentioned we're doing some traveling, we might as well
get this out of the way. Randall and I are
going to be in Columbus, Ohio on Saturday. Do you
have the exact location? Handy?

Speaker 5 (03:19):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, while he's Randall's looking that up. We're doing the
tailgate tour again and Randall and I going to be
there for the Ohio State in Texas, Yes game on Saturday,
hanging out. So if you're in the area, go to
the website. I'm sure you can get all the DCE
there on where to find us. Randall might have it

(03:40):
pulled up there.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
We will be at the Dublin Market at Bridge Park.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, Dublin Market at Bridge Park. It's gonna be early
because the game starts at eleven, so.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
It'll start at noon. I'm sorry, We're gonna start at
nine am.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
At nine am kick off, so you've probably roughly got
two hours to come and see us. Nine to eleven
Saturday morning. Come and hang out, tell me hunt story,
take a picture, whatever you want to do. We'd love
to see you.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Does it say where I'm going to be on where
ours is? On the twenty seventh TBD on your local.
We'll have to come back to that.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, we'll revisit that.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Uh, Brody, we got back. What has it been now?
Has it been a week or two? Two too odd
time wise? Yeah, we were at fish Shack, Renella's fish
Shack on Prince of Wales Island. Randell, you've been there
for Bear Hunt, I have, Brody, you've been there a
whole bunch with your family. This is the first time
I took my family there. My biggest worry going into

(04:38):
this one was like how my kids, my girls were
going to deal with Steve.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But they've been around him enough, they've kind of grown
up with him that they kind of know what to
expect and they get my I coach them on how
to deal with that too, you know, and so that's
not too big deal because they've been around him. But No,
the Southeast Alaska's sort of constant rain, the constant fifty

(05:08):
five degree temperature that's really not warm, not cold, but
you know, it's like if you're wet in that those
tempts it can it can be uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, and you're always wet even when it's not raining totally.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
The living conditions up there, it's not unsanitary or anything,
but it's very sparse, well, you know, it's it's it
is a shack.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
When I was up there, I couldn't get all of
the mink shit off my bed that I was sleeping in.
That's the danger of most of the minkshit. But I
couldn't get all of it.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, because you were probably the first one there for
the season, so you had to deal with all that.
Luckily we were there after all that had been taken.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, each consecutive group just scrapes off a little more minkshit,
and by the time you're the last group like us,
no more minkshit.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But we last group. Man, I would rather be the
first group. I've only done that like one, Maybe I
would rather be a middle group. Oh, you're right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The reason we're saying that like middle, like there's a
there's actually four owners of the fish shack, and so
there's a period of probably a span of maybe close
to two months roughly, yeah, six weeks, and the first
group comes. You got to do the job of opening
the place up. But then there's like group two, three,
and four who like get to just roll in, do

(06:22):
their thing and leave. Now there's work to be done
for every group, but the opening and then the shutting
the place down is like it takes a day. It
took us a day to shut the place down.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
On our pulling motors off boats and oh it's back
getting the water lines all cleared out.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah. But to finish my original thought here, as I
was worried about my girls and how they were going
to do there. My wife, I know she's gonna be fine,
no big deal. Uh, they like excelled exceeded expectations. Not
only did they never once uh like even kind of
talk about the weather. Like I don't think they talked
about the rain, the adults are bitching about the rain,

(07:01):
but the kids like, don't bring it up. They're just
like whatever, man, we put our slickers on and we're going.
And that's my.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Bigby put them on and just run around wet.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, and bro my girls, I'm like, you girls are
gonna learn a lesson Brod. He's like I told you,
Brody gets after his kids when they're making mistakes like
run around without raincoats. But anyways, the kids excelled. They
didn't give a shit about the rain. And that water
is roughly.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
In the fifties, those kids swim every single day of
our trip. The water would come in, the tide would
get high, and they would be in the cove just
splashing around like they were at the beach in North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Ya couldn't care, Matt rene mad He runs around in
shorts and crocs, like, no rain gear. And the kid's
impervious to the weather. Yeah, it's like it doesn't affect him.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
My oldest received this prestigious Cock of the Cove award,
Stephen Renela. To put this in perspective, we actually have
to plan when we're gonna eat dinner. The rest of
us without Steve knowing, because if you eat dinner, we
were eating dinner kind of late. I felt like a
couple of nights, and I was like, man, let's eat

(08:15):
a little bit earlier. And yeah, that chef Andy Rajalowski's like, yeah, sure,
we can eat it earlier. But and I didn't really
get the butt. I guess I wasn't listening what happens
the next night we eat earlier, we're done at like seven,
there's like ninety minutes maybe two hours of kind of
some light left. Well, everybody else wants to like play

(08:35):
banana Grams and have another beer. Steven Arnella is like
looking out the window and he's like, well.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
We got plenty of time to dig a hole. We're
gonna carry some rocks. We're gonna chain one of the
big rocks in the hole. They we're gonna cover up
the hole and chain it to my new floating dock.
And everybody's kind of looking around like he's like, who's
with me?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
No one raises a hand. So that's the problem with
eating too early. So after that we were really person
that when we finished eating, there would not be quite
enough time to get another chore done. It could just
be a little bit of relaxation and time for better.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, that was like we had never done the eating
early before.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
You never tried it.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, it's always like you eat and go to bed,
which like you gotta you get you know, it's a
long day, but it doesn't leave any time for you.
Just eat, go to bed.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, I've said this to let you all know that
when you're at Reneul's fish shack, and I'd like to
know if you had the similar experience. But there's work
to be done. There's like uh shack improvement projects that
are ongoing. There's just general upkeep of engines and like
you name it. And then there's the daily stuff just
to keep yourself alive, cooking and eating and cleaning up

(09:49):
after yourself and all that stuff. Well, the cock of
the cove gets the award when like you're always Johnny
on the spot. You're raising your hand when at like
six pm, no one else wants to go pull shrimp pots.
Steve's like we're going to pull shrimp pots? Who wants
to go? You raise your hand or dinner's over. Everybody
else is chilling, rubbing their bellies, adjusting their belts. There's

(10:11):
a lot of dirty dishes. You get up and start
doing the dishes, right, that sort of stuff. Oh, you
got to make another run back from the boats to
get more bait. I'll go run back to get more bait. Right. Well,
my daughter very proud of her. She chipped in and
was crushing it, and Steve awarded her Cock of the Cove.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, does that entitle her to any sort of liberties
the next time around or diminished?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, your slate is clear.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah yeah, pat yourself on the back and move on.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Hayde, my kid, Hayden was awarded Chief filet Officer.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh that's a prestigious honor.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, he was after it this.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, Randon, when you were there, did you feel like
you worked your ass off?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Not really.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
We didn't do a ton of projects because we were
filming and so the focus was on like getting stuff done.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
It's interesting because usually even when I've been up there
in the past filming, Steve will be like, Okay, we
did eight hours of film, and now let's do four
hours of may La.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, we were like we were a little under the
gun until I killed my bear and then it was
like because we had we had two bear tags to fill.
And so the first two, you know, we flew in,
couldn't hunt, and we had a day where we didn't
Steve and I chased a couple didn't get an opportunity.

(11:38):
Then we had a day where it just rained all
night and all day and bears didn't come out. Steve
and I sat in the rain. So at that point
there was a little bit of anxiety. But when I
was up there, I I just sort of decided that
I was going to fill the generator, which brought me
back to my days working in Alaska, just filling fuel

(11:59):
cans and pouring them and things, and that was I
felt like that was a solid contribution.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh, you got to keep the Jenny running.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Nothing worse when Yeah, we had narrator problems this year.
Oh my gosh, we had all kinds of mechanical problems.
Anything else? Do you want to mention about our great trip?

Speaker 8 (12:19):
No?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean Seth and I kind of talked fishing up
there last was it last week?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So he covered off on this, covered off on how
Seth kept taking out Renel's kids and his Renel's kids
would catch giants.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh yeah, I let people know if you want to
get a big halbit, you get in cessed boat.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's right. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Did you let people
know that Steve missed the gaff shot or not the
gaf shot the harpoon shot on your wife's big fish.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I can't remember if we talked about that. I think
we may have, and he didn't miss it, the helbit
dodged the harpoon.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, according to I don't think he's come forward with
his story yet. He should discuss it on on a
future Mediator podcast episode. But I once was just ridden
to hell. I was there about a why am I
missing that word? A harpoon throat? I had never done it.

(13:14):
I didn't realize. I thought it was kind of like
a haia, you know, you just like know it. No,
you gotta put it in there, and you gotta let
him eat, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I got to harpoon the big one that Steve caught,
and it was one of my favorite things ever done
in my life because I'm a big moby dick guy.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
And also when I was guiding up there, like netting
a big king is like a pretty intense situation, you know,
like because the one end of the fish is going
to be hanging out of the net and if it's
the if it's not the ass end, that thing's going
to swim away. So like brought me back again to
the pressure of getting that fish in the boat. But
a harpoon. Oh, it's just something very romantic about it.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, I got it, nailed.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It, but the film crew was beachcombing at the time,
so it didn't make it into the episode. My crowning achievement. Yeah,
I know, man, but they found something cool on the beach.
I think I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
They say, Randall, if it didn't happen on camera, it
didn't happen. Yes, Carrie's fish somehow got wrapped up in
the anchor line. Well, I mean it's like they kind
of got that freed up. She was but she wasn't
even in the boat with Steve. No, everything was cool,
Oh it was everything was cool. The halbit was coming up,

(14:35):
here comes Steve jumps in their boat and that's when
chaos ensued. You're kidding.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
He was always the common denominator.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Why did he feel like he needed to jump in
the boat.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Because he really wanted to carry to get that thing.
It wasn't like you're doing it I don't think it
was like, oh, you guys are doing something wrong. He
wanted her to get sure sure, and he wanted it
too much.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
And it'll help if I'm in the boat with you.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, look man, like it's fun to like point the finger,
but shit goes wrong with those big ones.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
All extremely fun. Yeah. No, we lost more big ones
that week than we then we landed percent, especially when
you got like kids like that are around ten years
old plus or minus whatever a couple three years, and
like you're kind of helping hold Rod real Rod, and
you're like, I can feel the the you know, levity

(15:29):
is a situation.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
On that run, the last fish you want to lose.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, and you're just like, Maddie, do the best you can, buddy.
Speaking of hides, bear hides, you got one when you're
up there, But uh, you have a project about some
hides you're working on.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, Yes, The next The next edition of Meat Eater's
American History is available for pre order right now wherever
you get your audio books. This is volume three Mediator's
American History, The Hide Hunters eight teen sixty five to
eighteen eighty three, where we dive into the industrial scale
slaughter of the American Buffalo, as Steve likes to say,

(16:09):
in the period following the Civil War. It will be
released officially on October fourteenth, So if you pre order
it now, it'll just be on your phone on October fourteenth,
and you can give it a listen on your drive
to hunting camp.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Or can you give me a little snippet of, like
one of your favorite stories from this.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wo boy favorite stories.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, maybe a factoid that you found interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So one of the more interesting things is there were
several stories about skunks. One was a guy named Skunk Johnson,
and these guys would big build what they called dugout shelters,
so they dig into the side of a stream bank.
And he was famous for having a really big, elaborate one.
And at one point he was surrounded by a group

(16:57):
of I believe comanches and he just was sort of
stuck in there. He holed up like it was a
siege and he survived only by eating skunks.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And then there was another guy who was bitten by
a rabid skunk. They're like two or three guys bitten
by rabid skunks, one of which he crawled under a
watering station along the railroad tracks like those big towers,
you know, I guess to get out of the sun,
and he just died. He never left that place. He
crawled under it and died. And then another guy was

(17:31):
bitten by a bitten by a rabid skunk, and when
he felt one of the bouts of hydrophobia coming on,
he took some of the stryc nine that they used
to poison the hides for scavengers, and he went out
back and he swallowed a slug of strych nine and
killed himself.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's interesting because I almost feel like you got to
try to get bit by a rabid skunk.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I mean, it makes you wonder how many there were
out there. Yeah, you know, fascinating stuff. And then there's
another guy that they think he got bit by a
rabbit skunk, but they don't know the skunk either scratched
him or bit him while he was sleeping. It got
on his face.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I mean, if you're sleeping in a dugout cave in
a stream bank along a stream, I mean, all those
critters run those streams and you're in there asleep, and
they just come in and share whatever, squat at it.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
And I think that's my I think that's one of
my more fascinating discoveries from the research is just four
stories about skunks.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
The thing I think is cool about is like debunking
the myth that these guys were like just blood thirsty,
like they're somehow doing it out of malice and when
actually it was like, yeah, it was like a good
job to have at the time.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, we get into that. I mean that in the
larger context is like after the Civil War, there's just
a lot of sort of restless veterans and displaced people,
especially if their hometown had been destroyed in the South
or whatever else, Like they come back from war and
life doesn't go back to normal for them, so they
head out west. And also, like the eighteen seventies, there

(19:06):
a time of a lot of economic upheaval and business
is failing and bankruptcies and stuff like that. So yeah,
like there's a resource that's free for the taking, and
it's understandable that these guys would go out there and
try to make a living, especially if they're kind of
predisposed to be like adventure seekers.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So I'm going to save listening to it. My daughter
and I are road trip into Wisconsin for the rifle season.
This year, and I'm going to save it for.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
That perfect It'll get you through.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I'm going to make her listen.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
To It'll get you through. I think six and a
half hours of your drive something like that. So well
that's like a third Yeah, maybe get four hundred miles
out of it, that'd be good, totally.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Let's see what else we got in our little chit
chat section here shooting with the families. Roddy and I
went out and did a little plinking, set up some gongs.
I need more stands for the go so we can
have more distances yep, and not have the same like
two gongs on one frame.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, get them dial in weird distances like you know,
in between distances. Yeah, we were just getting started. We
didn't get quite as far along with the competition thing
you're just getting I had a brand new rifle that
had never been shot.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, the guys should let me know. I'm just on
the other side of the mountain.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I know. Well, I mean I get I come back
from doing one of these, and then there's always like, oh,
I should have called Randall. I should have called you know, Mike,
because he's got a kid that also wants to shoot
but I will say, like we had just we were
at the max amount of like how many guns can
be going out at once. It's different if it's all adults.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
You're trying to watch kids that are shooting, they can
get hectically.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I don't need to shoot. I can just help.
We can just be there to hear the bang.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Oh okay, well, then definitely we could use it.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Luckily, we had some quiet bangs going on, at least
until Johannis broke out the rifle with the brake on it.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Man, it's like, yeah, the brakes are tough these days,
but when you go to Canada, you gotta you gotta
shoot break. I will say, It's funny how I told
my girls going into it. I'm like, I would like
you guys to try to shoot about a box or
the whole box, you know, twenty rounds apiece, however you
want to do it. Well, they get through like ten,
they've hit every gong, and they're kind of like, eh,

(21:23):
you know, we've shot enough. I'm like, no, you haven't.
You know, we might get to do this one maybe
two times. But before we go on the youth hunt,
like we need to shoot a bunch and I'm like, okay,
let's do a little competition. You got to hit two hundred,
three hundred, four hundred and then come it and then
and then bring it back and we're gonna time you
you know, and every miss counts for fifteen seconds or whatever.

(21:45):
And as soon as that was down, all of a sudden,
everybody's like, all right, let me go, let me go,
let me go at it, let me go at it.
And then they each got another whatever that was six shots,
five shots, yeah, quickly, And uh, it's really good because
that little bit of stress of that competition tition, that
is what it's going to feel like when there's a
buck and you have limited amount of time and there's

(22:08):
all of a sudden there's stress. Stress in the situation,
self induced usually when you're out hunting, right, but like,
there is that stress, but it's you can you can
mimic that by doing a little bit of a competition.
I think it's really good for any shooter. You know,
kids get a lot out of it, but that's great
for any shooter. Yeah, I got other stuff I'd love
to tell you guys about. All Right, one last thing,

(22:30):
I promise Phil Philip's already like this is gonna be
the longest episcon checking on the longest episode.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Jesus the chat just complaining that Giannis won't shut the
hell up. No, they are, everyone's loving it. I'm just
I'm just joshing.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
All right, this is great. Uh. Sunday morning, we're having breakfast,
kind of a late late brunchy breakfast the family, and
someone looks over and it's like, holy, look at Vegas
his leg and on his like lower Uh. I forget
which which front leg is on. I think it's his left,
but you know, maybe six or eight inches above his paw,

(23:05):
big old gash like two inches long, and it's kind
of spread open, like a solid inch maybe more. I'm like, yee,
you know, like that looks bad. I wondering, like, who's
gonna Who's gonna be the one that takes him to
the vet.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And just for like people are listening, you kind of
let him roam around and do his own thing.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, we don't have a fence. We don't have a
fence yard. He wears his GPS callar every single day
of his life and then that way when he's usually
he's not much of a roamer until it gets h
evening time and it cools off and then all of
a sudden he starts to roam.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm the same way.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
And uh anyway, so it probably happened the evening before
no one noticed it, and then the next morning like, hey,
look at that. Well, all of a sudden, everybody else
has somewhere to beat. So I'm left with Mingus and
his open wound, and they're like, take care of it,
and I forget. I had to go. I'm where too,
so I didn't have that much time. But I take
a picture send it to my buddy Jake. I'm like,

(24:05):
what would you do right now? He's like, that looks
pretty fresh. I think you can just staple it up.
I'm like, okay, I have bought the staple gun already.
I'm prepared, sitting in my truck in case we have
a mountain lion, you know, mishap.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
And it's like the first thing you need to buy
when you're a houndsman. Yeah, a GPS collar and a
staple gun.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Totally, and so I've got that. I watch a couple
of YouTube videos irrigate it with, you know, some warmed
hot sailing solution. Irrigate the hell out of it. Maybe
scrub it a little bit and uh, Stapler shut and
you're on your way. And so I did that. I

(24:46):
got to the oh. I later we had to meet
at a volleyball game for my oldest and I'm like
showing them pictures and telling them my story. They were incredulous.
They were like, you didn't do that. You went to
the vat. I'm like, no, no, no, I like, watch the
YouTube video on Staple of my dog up. It wasn't
that hard. And they're looking at it and they're like, well,
it looks pretty good, dad, you know. I'm like, well, like,

(25:08):
it wasn't that hard. But they're very much like, nice,
did you really do this? And then not Later though,
I caught a lot of scrutiny about like pussing a lot.
Maybe you look swollen? Are you sure you did it right? Anyways,
I felt like I should be a vet.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Sure that's great.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
After doing that, I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Super glueded dog.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
But not.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
But staplelan like did he squirm or yelp?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
He gave me like a false uh when I irrigated,
but the staples he barely flinched. Yeah, And I didn't
unesssize him.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Was it like like barbed wire kind of cutter, That's
what I'm thinking, you know, especially in that spot.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, and there's plenty of barb wire on our property,
you know. So all right, thank you all for Uh,
that's the folks coming. We're halfway through. We're gonna interview
Rich Throning now. In this interview, this first one is
brought to you by none other than Mountain Ops. Whether

(26:15):
you're training for the mountain or just trying to feel
your best every single day, Mountain Ops has your back.
Speaking of performance, we're joined today by one of the
most accomplished athletes in the world of fitness, four time
CrossFit Games champion and the man often called the fittest
on Earth. You just thought that was me, but no,

(26:38):
we're talking about Rich Frowning and he's here bringing that
all together in a brand new podcast called In Pursuit,
where he's exploring how the grit of competition and the
challenges of the wild connect to something deeper in all
of us. Rich, welcome to meet Eater Radio Live. How

(26:59):
are you?

Speaker 8 (27:00):
What's up? Boys?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
How we doing excellent?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
We're doing great? Is it feeling Rich? You're down in Nashville?

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Correct, a little bit east uh in Cookfield. But man,
it's it's it feels like fall here. Man, it's getting
me fired up. Mornings are Chris you know, hot during
the day, but it cools off pretty good at the evening.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
So man, we just had Velvet Hunt this week and
I didn't actually get to go out.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
I was in Texas, but seeing the pictures, man, it's
getting me fired up.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh man, I love to hear it. I was thought,
you're gonna tell me it's just been still hot as
balls and it's still summertime, but it sounds if you
made it.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
Drop this week, and man, it's just your walk outside
expecting to just get knocked down by a wall of
humidity and there's none. It's it feels feels like fall.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Wonder lovely Rich, can you give our listeners a quick
behind the scenes peak and what inspired you to do
the in Pursuit podcast? Like, what's going on with this podcast?

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (27:53):
Man, it's just a good time and it's honestly, it's
just me nerding out and listening to some specialists in
different areas. Whether it you know, we had Joel Turner
that episode just launched today. We had Kip Folks, who
runs a he's gonna outfit her up in Alaska.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
For Grizzly Moose and all that.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
And then Joel we've had on just talking about shot
iq stuff and the high stress stuff you're talking about
with shooting rifles we do. He does a lot with bows.
So it's just cool to talk to those guys and
pick their brains. We had a NFL guy that Zach Steeler,
that just actually signed a forty five million dollar contract
a couple of days after he left here, so you know,

(28:31):
we asked him for a percentage of that since we
probably helped with that. But man, it's just it's my own,
I guess pursuit for knowledge for lack of better terms
of just getting exposed to different guys and what they're
doing and in the hunting and then also just in
in sport and how we can relate that to the outdoors.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
On that note, like there's just reading through sort of
the ideas behind in pursuit. There's like the grit of
mountain hunting and then how that aligns with you know,
fishy performance and the disciplines of CrossFit, Like how do
you how do you see those two? Like where's that
intersection for you? Man?

Speaker 9 (29:08):
I think it's just being a well rounded ath. I mean,
you just finished one hundred mile Old race, what couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, it's been a month now, but still feel it best.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Yeah, I bet you're still feeling it.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
It's so with crossbit obviously, the idea is, you know,
without getting too nerdy in it, you know, you don't
want to be the strongest guy in the room. You
don't want to be the guy that has the most power,
But you also don't want to be the you know, long,
slow guy. You want to kind of be a mix
or have have some ability at each of those spots.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
And so yeah, the idea is, like, man, we just
want to be.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
As prepared for the mountains, preferably, you know, that's where
my heart is. We got a bunch of guys here
that are Eastern hunters, and I've in the last little
bit started doing some white tail, but my heart's still
out west as much as uh, you know, I'm stuck.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Here in Tennessee.

Speaker 9 (29:57):
But you know, we're going on two l hunts and
the next couple of weeks archery, and so just being
prepared for that me personally, but also taking that and
just helping people that want to go out and be
able to go after something.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
What tell me I was thinking about this? I had
some during that one hundred mile race. There are some
real low points. Oh yeah, I could probably I could
point to a couple of moments that were like what
I would describe is the hardest, And we'll get to that.
I'm actually gonna come down and visit rich and we're
gonna talk about this business. But uh, what in all

(30:34):
of your career of competing and CrossFit, is there a
moment that stands out to you where you're like, oh,
during this competition and this moment, I struggled and had
to get through this low point to to make it
to the other side.

Speaker 8 (30:49):
Man, I probably had too many to list.

Speaker 9 (30:51):
Probably the most infamous one was my first CrossFit Games
as an individual. I you know, the final event I
was leading going into the final and a rope climb
is the There was like a three part event and
the final part was a rope climb with some burpees
in there, And really didn't think anything about it until
I started getting to the rope and having done two
workouts before that, just couldn't get up the rope.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
A lot of guys are using their feet.

Speaker 9 (31:15):
When I was a kid, my dad told me not
to use my feet because that's for you know, use
whatever acronym you want to use, or whatever do you
want to use their I didn't know if it's PG
or PG thirteen show, and so I just never used
my feet. And so all these guys are going up
and down the rope. Well, I got up in a
couple times and fell pretty good. I think it was
about twenty feet. There's if you type in rich Frohning
falls off rope on YouTube, you're welcome. But man, yeah,

(31:38):
you just I ended up losing the Cross of the
Games by three points, which is three places throughout the
whole weekend.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
And man, I was just in a bad spot.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
And so you know, there's different things that you can
look back on, and man, I just I hate losing.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
I hate being that guy that It's just I.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
Was born into a family of thirty two first cousins,
twenty five of us are boys. My entire life has
been a petition and so I hate losing, I hate failure,
I hate all that.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
So man, it just used it as a motivator.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
In the next couple of years, I was like man,
I don't want to have that shame and you know,
huge in my faith, and so that was a that
was a big kind of a eye opener to that
of like, man, just do it for something else, do
it for something bigger than just yourself.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Awesome, it sounds like quite the fall. I'm definitely youtubing
that I ain't random yeah pulled up.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I don't know if the sounds on my computer, so
I don't want to fire it up right now, but
it's lined up all.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
Right, always ready.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Rich Richie mentioned Joel Turner, kip uh uh me who
else you got that's uh that's coming on to talk
on in pursuit that you're excited about. Man, we had.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Andy Gallpin and doctor Andy Gallpin.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
He's a.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
Man, that was a cool meat. You know, being a nerd,
being a fitness nerd. Uh, this is my background, is
my degree in so being able to like nerd out on.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
That type of stuff was a ton of fun.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
I've got another guy, Todd Anderson, which is he's become
a friend of mine.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
He's really into sleep.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
That'll be a ton of fun of like you know
what we think just some minor changes you can make
to improve performance, because I think one of the biggest
things in recovery is sleep. We've got a couple of
new maybe some nutrition has lined up, and athletic therapists
or an athletic trainer.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
So just like you know, we all see the.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
Like CrossFit style stuff or the ultra and durant stuff,
but you know, the taking care of your body when
you're not in the gym or not, you know, training
for something even outdoors.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I can tell you that was my favorite part about
running one hundred miles was the two weeks of recovery
and taking that very seriously, which basically means you just
sleep your ass off, sleep lot of naps. Is this
guy you're gonna talk to, is he a nap proponent,
because I've been hearing that some people.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
We didn't really we haven't gotten into it yet. He's
coming on in the.

Speaker 9 (33:52):
Next couple of weeks. Man, I can't nap. I just
my brain doesn't shut off.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
During the day.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
As bad as that sounds like, once I'm up, I'm up.
And so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Man.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
Now I'll ask him about naps. I'll make sure to
put that one on there. When we're on there, I'll
say johnis wants to know about naps.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh, definitely, yeah, because I listened to one. I think
it was actually on Gallup and Show. He was talking
to sleep researcher from the Army, and a couple of
big takeaways was one, Yeah, naps are great, don't go
over twenty minutes. And then Lebron James takes three to
four a day.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's what I was going to say. Napping is huge
in the NBA, especially with late tip offs.

Speaker 9 (34:28):
Yeah, yeah, that would do it. So, yeah, you gotta
control those cortisol fluctuations.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
So and I mean, you want to talk about a
crossover for ELK Cunting. If I don't get my midday
nap in on ELK Hunt, I am just I'm going
to be going.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Down hill a little reset.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I gotta get that little midday napping, all right, man.
I'll look forward to hearing some episodes. Where can we
find in pursuit.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
The mediat podcast network, it's I think today we just
dropped the one with we Kip was two we weeks
ago and this today was Joel Turner.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
So those will be on there on I guess the
channel that this.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Is on, so perfect we'll check them out there well,
thanks for cod joining us taking time away from your
busy day. And yeah, I look forward to hanging out
in Nashville here and I can get down there to
talk running.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
Come on, boys, appreciate it all right?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Thanks? Rich?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
See it?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay? That was Rich frowning the In Pursuit podcast. I
haven't listened yet, but I need to, especially if he's
gonna talk start talking about sleep. Man, I'm into staying
up on my sleep.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Nothing like talking about sleep.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
I know, I know, I'm serious, but it's also sort
of funny.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
It is it is, but people like you just said,
people don't take it seriously enough. Man, you're not performing
at like.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I can't even sleep in the night time.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
But yeah, oh I take my sleep very seriously.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Well, everybody does. But I feel for you because I
know a lot of not a lot, but I know
quite a few people in my life that don't have. Sorry,
guests to have a hard time.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
In bed, well, in bed for hours just staring at
the walls. Get up, walk around.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Go read a book, take a cold shower, read.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Until my eyes closed on the page, and then do
that three more times and then I'm probably ready. Okay,
working through the right stuff right now, book about airplanes
and uh space travel about the astronauts. Actually right as
in w R as in r I t h r
r r I t h l r I g H
try sleep yeah, Chuck Yeager.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
All right, real quick, this won't take five minutes. Moultree
Mobile Trailcam. I say that, guys because in my little
script here it says roughly how long these little bits.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's good. We can make up some time here.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Moby Moultree Mobile Trailcam Photo Contest Round three. Okay, it's
called titled Big Bull Elk. You can go to how
to enter your photographs. You go to there can be
article I think we're dropping it today on Mediatter website
and you can submit your Big Bull Elk Trail Camp photos.

(37:07):
We'll pick the top four photos to showcase during next
week's show and then have the chat. So if you
come and listen next week live, you're gonna get to
actually pick the winner. The chat will do it.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Prizes are tell them what they're gonna win you, honess.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Here you go two Edge two first light Spectr Camo
addition Moultari cameras with ten watt solar power pack bundles
I can't say enough about those solar pack bundles. Man,
it makes them completely hands off. The cameras are hands off.
Now if they could now just make a function where

(37:43):
the solar panel usually kind of well, the one that's
attached comes out of the top. A lot of them
have separate solar panels that you just attach the cord,
which actually like better because that way you can have
the solar panel facing south camera facing north. But what
they need now is another thing where a set of
like big clippers comes out of the bottom. Because what
happens to me is I set them up in the spring,

(38:03):
nothing's growing, and then right about now, all of a sudden,
it's like this in front of my cameras. And most
you just needs to have a little thing that comes
out and just and can reach out about three feet and.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
If the dowse the stuff around the camera with some herbicide.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Listen that has thought that thought has crossed my mind,
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Well then I get a drone that'll just hang them
for you. Be set.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
There's three prizes. It doesn't say if there's like a
number one, number two, number three prize. They're all good prizes.
Prize number two, two hundred and fifty dollars gift card
to the Meat Eater store, a two hundred and fifty
dollars gift card to First Lights, my goodness, and prize four.
I'm sorry, there's four prizes. A case knives, Brent Reeves
signature mini trapper knife.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah it donet the winner.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Just get all that stuff that seems excessive.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Oh maybe maybe, Phil, Have we just been picking one
winner for those, haven't we?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Damn?

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, one winner gets everything?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, all right, I gotta set up some trail cameras.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Get a quick, awesome bull elk picture. My guess if
if I could just like look into the future a
little bit, h it's gonna be something with a bull
elk in a wallow.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
That's a typical spot for a trail cam.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yep. And you get some water splashing, maybe a bowl
on his back pissing all over himself.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
You could put it on a telephone pole outside man
with mammoth hot springs too.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
And you do all right?

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Oh yeah, I don't know if the park's gonna let
you put a camera.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Just keep it quiet.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay. Now we're on to uh answering a few questions
from the chat Phil, What do we got to that?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:45):
And Jannis already said so, just to reiterate, the article
is not up yet, but it will be up later today. Okay,
So yeah, keep your If you want to check back
this evening on the Mediator dot com, it should be
pretty obvious. Submit you're it's a multi trail cam.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Foot you know what is up right now? Though, Phil
is my most recent on the Hunt episode. Right went
to Wyoming to shoot a prong horn. Check that out
trophy prong horn trophy. I was going for a trophy.
I learned a lot about judging trophy prong horn on
this trip.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
You guys want to watch Rich fall off of a rope?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Please?

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Okay I felt bad doing it when he was on
the line.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
But here's Rich going up. He's only using his arms.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh dang, Rich, that's a that could have been a
broken tailbad there. And that Spartan race me and Hayden did.
We watched a guy you gotta swing from ring to ring,
you know, yeah, and a big muscular guy like Rich
made the big long swing but didn't hold on, landed
a flat on his back and broke his collar bone

(40:44):
like we heard it snap?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
How did you do on those rings?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I did alright, because I'm like skinny and spry.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Oh wait, till right, right, right right? Yeah, dang, that
looks rough and he's still took third place.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Have you ever broken your tailbone?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
No, it's not fun. I mean I've had it. Would
you do it? Have you done it?

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
There a story playing basketball post the guy up he
thought it'd be funny to just wap with a knee.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Oh yeah, oh that did it?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, no kidding, Well it was awful, awful your.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Cosicks, Randall, can't take those hard fouls.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I like the fact that you're a you're a b
ball player. I'm gonna get my hoop down here from
my house.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh yeah, and then in the winter time we should
set up in my barn and Max.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh yeah, that's a good idea. I know that we
have Max, you and uh Nick Tapia. All right, let's
get a question in Phil.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Sure, it's good a question and uh let's see here,
Trey Woods is asking for some cruise score predictions for
the tailgate Tour, something like college Game Day. Randall, you
got any predictions predictions you want to you want to share,
at least for the game you're going to.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I guess what I'm thinking is I just don't want
them to lose at home first game of the season.
It's gonna be really coming as defending national champions. I mean,
there's just there's a lot of pressure in arch Manning.
I mean, I don't know. I just it's gonna be

(42:22):
a bad scene if they lose. So I'm thinking positive thoughts,
but as you can tell, I'm also thinking negative thoughts.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So well. They still have that literal highlight reel of
a wide Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, that guy is incredible Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
For Heisman.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
That was actually one of the questions here, Randall, was
your predictions for Heisman this year?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
You want to know some Heisman trivia?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
The figure on the statue, uh huh. That's Jay Berwanger.
It's a quarterback at the University of Chicago back when
we were at Powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Mhmm. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I like that, Randall. You're full of stuff like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Another one Phil that was from Trey John asks Jannis,
have you seen anyone doing a one hundred k barefoot?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Nope, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Is that a thing that happens?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I think maybe a little bit there's there's some of
that barefoot or like super minimalist shoe stuff going on.
The thing you see sometimes there's these running sandals that
they are they're very minimalists. I mean, I mean the
soul is flat and it's like a quarter inch and
then there's just a couple straps going over the foot

(43:32):
to hold the soul underneath you. That's the closest I've
seen to anybody doing one of these barefoot, and I
don't know if you if you train in it, they
probably finish.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Sorry I misspoke. Jay Burwanger with a halfback.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Uh hm, I'm disappointed. Nathan asks crew, what are some
planed slash traditions that you have on Labor Day weekend?
If you have any. Do you guys have any sort
of go to activities or stuff to do with the.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Family, camping, fishing and or hunting.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, camping. It's a great camping weekend, it is. It
is just send off to the summer before.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, we're gonna do a little barbecue with the neighbors.
Catch up. We haven't seen him in a little while.
My oldest daughter just made Pat on her back again
twice in one episode. She made the Bosman high school
freshman volleyball team, the A team, and I've now realized
that it's a fall sport and it's going to affect

(44:37):
our fall activities.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Oh yeah, my son's figuring that out with the cross country.

Speaker 9 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Luckily for you season, they don't. It's not gonna affect.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's not We're good for Antelope opener and U season.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
All right, all right, and those are the two big
ones for us right now. Do you want to do
another one? Phil?

Speaker 8 (44:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I don't know how much has been announced or how
much we can say, but az Or King asks, when
is the Mediator crew going to do live podcast tours again?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I don't think we can say. Okay, I would say
just that right, Just keep your eyes I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Do it open. I don't want to do I'm not
doing anything.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I'm not gonna just stay posted.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
It'll hang on, keep your eyes open.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, it's not gonna be yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, I don't know about like the I.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Don't even think you should have clicked on this question
the optimy and stay posted.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
There, Brodie.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, if you like live in the southeast part of
the country, you're probably gonna be pretty excited.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I get a call from the c suite here in
a minute.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
If nobody has said we can't talk about it, so
what the hell?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I just assume I can't talk about it anymore. They
tell me lines of communication around here. If they're gonna
be mad, Let's move on.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
We got a lot of stuff to cover.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
All right, all right, all right, Bernie says, no more questions.
All right, sorry, I guess we can do a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
We can do a long ending question session.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
On to our next interview. Many of you know Parker
Hall from me Eater season eight episode Flathead Catfish and
Gray Squirrels, where he taught Steve how to eat sunflower
seeds properly, specifically had to build a little gravy in
the seeds. This was alongside bank poll fishing for flatheads

(46:16):
and squirrel hunting with his feiz Ruby. This episode is
recently released on the YouTube channel as part of season
eight being released there that started I think about a
month ago. This is the first episode in season eight.
Highly recommend you check it out.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
There's a very good tutorial on how to fry fish
the right way in there too.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yes, I still do things that I learned from Parker
on that trip. One being speaking of fried fish. Parker's
probably he's not on yet. He can't even talk. I'm
talking for him. But Parker seasons his fish before bredding it,
which I think is crucial. The other day we did
a breading that had mixed sizes of the breading itself,

(47:00):
like there was some panco, there was some flowers, some cornstarch.
As the breading got used up, the big stuff the
panco was gone. It was turning into a just flour
and corn starts breading, which is why, if you think
about it, salt and pepper are similarly sized, right, They're fine.
And that's why Parker does all seasons of fish first,
because if it's in your breading, that salt and pepper

(47:22):
are not getting onto the fish as much as whatever
bigger chunks of breading you have on there. Say it's
corn meal or whatever, right, So if you want even seasoning,
you gotta season the fish first. Thanks Parker. All right,
let's see.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Watching this cannot say anything. Okay, let's see, we don't
even We don't even need to bring him on anymore.
I think you just covered it.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Parker and I stay in touch via text, usually sending
each other videos of our dogs barking on trail or
treat if you know you know. Work is the state
director of the USDA's Wildlife Services Florida program, and his
main focus is alleviating damages associated with ferreal swan. This

(48:10):
includes protection of agriculture, natural resources, threatened and endangered species,
and disease monitoring. Today he's joining us while he's taking
DNA samples from chapped hogs that are threatening sea turtles?
Did you know that that could be a thing? No,
Welcome to the show, Parker. Oh I can't hear him.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I don't think it's my fun. I got your mic on, Parker.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
How about now.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Led it. Did you like that introduction, Parker?

Speaker 5 (48:49):
That was great.

Speaker 7 (48:49):
That was perfect introduction and also perfect description of why
you should bread, I mean season your fish first.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Excellent, excellent description. Perfect o.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Kay I see that you have a it looks to
be either a dead or a neesssized pig in front
of you. What are you doing with that thing?

Speaker 5 (49:10):
So thank you for the introduction and good overview.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
This this is a dead pig, not an esecized So
something we do in the state is protect, like you said, agriculture,
threatened dangerous species, sea turtles, people, who are trying to
manage their land and being overrun with pigs. We are
not actually doing sea trouble protection day, although we do

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it all over the state. This is a land manager
that's trying to manage here in turkeys and warm seasoned
grasses and all those kind of things. So we had
a group of pigs captured today, and part of what
we do with USDA Wildlife Services is also monitor for diseases.
There's a number of diseases that we take samples we
take and we look at, including pseudo rabies, brucellosis, classical

(49:56):
swine fever, African swine fever, we look some of the
flu viruses HPAI, all sorts of things. So as part
of that, all the pigs that we capture we do
take samples of them. And I was just going to
kind of go through that today and show you guys
what we take and then if there's any questions you
have about what we're looking for, why we're looking.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
For it, that'd be perfect, all right, So move on,
all right.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
So we have to do is make sure we put
on our ppe. It's kind of.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
It's good to wear ppe when you're taking samples and
dealing with fero swine, and most of you guys know.
And one thing that we deal with in the Southeast,
particular with fero swine to an extent, is sudor rabies
and brucellosis. So sudor rabies is not a zoonotic disease,
meaning we can't people can't get it, but brucellosis you can.

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And for those of you that are cleaning feral swine
and those things that the brucellosis kind of hangs out
in the reproductive tract and the lactating areas and those
kind of things, it's always a good idea to use
use some protection when you're when you're cleaning ferris wine,
if you're if you're gonna consume them, and all these
diseases that we're talking about, some of them could be

(51:10):
transferred to people, some can't, but it's they're all all
killed if you cook it to.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
A proper temperature. So something The first thing I'm gona
do is gonna take some blood.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
Hopefully this animal has been dead for some time, so
hopefully it's not convealed too much, so pressure's on. What
I'm doing is trying to make a heart stick and
going in the top of the heart and then that

(51:41):
goes into a vial and these these vals are pressureised
as you could see. All right, that's this goes into
my collection kit. Then I'll take a couple more samples.
This next sample, I'll just get a little drop of
blood and put it on a on a Q tip

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and then that goes in some media which I cannot open.
Get m Q tip out.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Hey Parker, if you've got a helper there, would you
mind asking them just to angle that camera just up
just the hair. We're mostly looking at the bottom half
of your faith.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
Okay, how's that there?

Speaker 9 (52:28):
We go?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Perfect better?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Okay, good, all right? And this this goes into media.

Speaker 7 (52:34):
And this, this one particular, is looking for a foreign
animal's eve African swine fever. We don't we do not
have that in in the United States, but it's in
Haiti and and down that those type of areas. It's
in Africa. It's pretty bad. We don't want it in
in feral swine in the United States. And the reason
we look for a lot of these diseases and feral

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swine is for protection of our domestics. So some of
them we used to have we've eradicated and we're trying
to keep them out. The feral swine all over the
country can act as a reservoir, right, so if a
disease gets in those wild population, it's much more difficult to.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
Get rid of or treat or do whatever you need
to do.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
The ones that are in captivity and the ones we
use are for food source, we could treat those animals
and kind of stamp out diseases. So it's really bad
if they get in the in the in the wild.
Try to keep them, you know, try to keep monitoring
and if we see something, then we can take proper
precautions and talk with our state ag and our state
wildlife agencies and then they can take the steps that

(53:36):
they're they're going to do.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
So got that one, and the last sample I'll take
off of this animal is DNA genetic sample. That's just
an air clip. We take that and put that into
this media and then that scent.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
And what we're trying to do in us A is
get a map of feral swine all over the all
over the continental in.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
The United States, to see movements, to see.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
If animals came from one area been relocated to another area,
Try to stop translocation, try to see natural movements and
how they're doing.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
Pigger pigs are.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Really taken off all over the country and we're learning
a lot of valuable information using this genetic technique.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
So those are the three main samples that we would get.

Speaker 7 (54:32):
That all goes onto a data sheet and you can
notice they have these bar codes, so when we send
that in, the bar code matches with the vile scan
scan scan and goes into you know, the list. And
then all of our exile Excel spreadsheets get sent to
us and people go through those and take them, take
a look and see what our prevalence prevalences are. Like

(54:53):
I said, mostly in the southeast sud AB's brucellosis is
the ones we have and along with trip trick and
osis leftoh those those types of things. We also we
also look and when we first get the animal, we
just kind of go over it and see if there's
any lesions or anything that look that's looking abnormal. And
if there there are something we see some blistering, some

(55:15):
sluffing of the hoofs, then we contact our our state
veterinarians and maybe get them involved to see if there's
something that that you know, was on the landscape that
we haven't seen or something we don't want.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Hey, Parker, like what percentage of the pigs you're examining
have one of these diseases? Like can you make a
ballpark on that?

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Actually know the answer to that? Oh about if I
believe it or not?

Speaker 7 (55:44):
About twenty five percent of the pigs that we have
in Florida are positive for pseudo RABS.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
Now let me say that's that's not not it so
people can't get it.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
But it's fatal in dogs and some other animals and
a little to a lesser extent brucellosis, which is about
fifteen percent or so, so it isn't.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I have lots of questions, but if you guys have some,
please go.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I don't have a question. I just wanted to say
that had I known you were waiting with a dead
hog for us, I would have insisted that we interview
you first, so you'dn't have to sit there with your
dead hog and your ppe for forty five minutes. But
appreciate you having your own Parker.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
You met a world. You mentioned the translocation and that
your guys are kind of keeping an eye on that.
I'm assuming that that's being done by humans and that
it's probably being done by hunters that want to hunt
berreal swine in their area. Is that true? Is that

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what you guys are fighting a little bit.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
Yeah, that's what we find. So USDA is non regulatory.
But if we have a new population show up where
they've never been before in the middle of the country,
we're able to some of those and then we work
with our state game and fish agencies. I feel like
these came from you know, we're in South Dakota and
these genetically go back to Orlando or whatever that area.

(57:11):
So there's some valuable information that's that's being gained there,
and we can tell that there's certain areas in the
country where a lot of pigs are coming from. And
it's it's pretty neat stuff to be able to see
where those hogs are being moved from and where to.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
So yes, can you right?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I was just going to say, can you just tell
us just quickly as we can spread the message of
why translocating pigs is a bad idea if you don't know.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
Well, other than the disease issues I've talked about and
all of the P and E species, agriculture, uh, you know,
destruction in the woods, competing with deer in turkeys, there
are non native invasive species, so it's just like any
other non native invasive species. They don't belong here, they
didn't involve on the landscape, and they compete with all

(58:00):
of our native animals and give our agricultural community a
pretty big headache.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I love Parker's job. Parker, you love your job, Love
my job? How would you I think there's there's got
to be some kids out there listening, some young people,
maybe some old people that want to change their career.
If someone wanted to get into doing like what you
get to do on a daily basis, was just every
time we talk to you, I'm like, man, that sounds
like fun. What Parker's doing, Like what do they need

(58:31):
to do in school? And then what do they need
to do after school sort of to get the experience
to get in that line of work.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
And thank you for asking that question.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
We're kind of a smaller agency in wildlife services, so
we do have, believe it or not, trouble getting applicants sometimes.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
So we have different levels of.

Speaker 7 (58:52):
So technicians, you know, they're they can come to work
with wildlife Services with no college degree. They need some
experience in the outdoor trapping, you know, animal damage kind
of stuff, any of those types of things. They can
come to work in those jobs. Those employees are the
backbone of wildlife services. They do all the work and

(59:13):
we get all the credit. Just like this trap behind
me in these feros wine that were trapped, I didn't
do it. I was too busy doing spreadsheets. One of
my good technicians did it. And so those people are
out there and it's a great job. A lot of
our jobs are posted on USA Jobs. That's the government website.
You can also look up your Each wildlife services state

(59:36):
has a web page. You can go and call the
state director or call the district supervisor. Ask around in
the state. They know as you move up you do
need a college degree, like a four year degree in
some sort of natural resources, biology, wildlife, all those sorts
of things, and that gets you up to that biologist level.
And then after you get to that you can work

(59:58):
work your way up. But the crux and the heart
and soul is is our technicians. You know, are are
people who are in the woods making a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Yeah, were those pigs pretty easy to trap or were
these some of those difficult pigs that you've talked about
in the past with us.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
No, these were these ones are pretty easy.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
These these haven't been messed with a whole lot, so
they weren't too difficult.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
And some of them get super hard.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
And you know, we're talking about a little earlier protecting
UH sea turtle nests and that's a big thing that
that we do. And some of those guys get squirrely
because we chase them, We chase them pretty hard. They'll
get out, you know, Florida being what a deal. We
have so much coastline and so many nesting sea turtles
and ferrel swine are and high populations here, So those

(01:00:43):
pigs will get out on the beach and just dig
up turtle nests after turtle nests, after turtle nests, and
some of those can get can get kind of squirrely
to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
If I had known as a younger person that wildlife
tech also included trapping and possibly hunting these animals, I
could be on a completely different career path.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Not too late, honest, all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Right, thanks thanks for that, Parker. I hope that you
actually get some people that call you up interested and
possibly working UH for that agency. Now, before I invited
Parker to come on this show. He had text me
and said, hey, man, what you guys should do one
time on one of your podcast thingies. That's the term
you use, is that you guys should name your top

(01:01:27):
three favorite sounds from the woods. And he had already
at that time. At that moment, he sent me the
list his top three favorite ones, along with the video
where you could hear one of the sounds that he said, Now, Parker,
do you want to tell me what your do you
remember what your three are that you that you sent

(01:01:49):
to me in text?

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
I do remember. I do remember.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Well, I think I remember my three because they don't
really change. But before we get to the three, I
think it's super important to point out please that we
do in building up in the outdoors. We go through
a lot of preparation, a lot of things and getting
already in the excitement and then all of a sudden
you're there. But when you hear a sound, you know

(01:02:16):
it's all come to fruition, something's about to happen. And
so I started thinking about that, and I was like, man,
sound is such an important thing, you know, when you're
when you're outside, you know, recreating, hunting, fishing, doing all
those sorts of things.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
So I do know my three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
All right, Well, I'm gonna let you start then, and
I want you to start with the the number number three,
and then go to two and then go to the
top one.

Speaker 7 (01:02:42):
Okay, number three for me is probably a tree dog.
And I love the sound of a tree dog. You know,
I have Ruby, and you have your your good blue dog, who,
by the way, has a beautiful voice and it echoes
out through them mouth man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
I can't get enough of it. I show it to somebody, like,
listen to this doll. I love it. And you know
you're you're running the track, run the track, run track,
and then that changes that chop.

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
You know something's about to happen. So I really love
that part.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Oh yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Beautiful Phil? Do you also have Parker's Ruby? All right, Parker,
what's your number two favorite sound in the woods or
the outdoors?

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
My number two sound is a drag singing just when
you hook up to the fish in that draft. You
know better that you know it's it's just something that
that gets your heart going. You know something good is
about to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
So that's number two.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Okay, we're gonna play it right now, that's what I'm yeah. Last, Paul,
we got to fish similar water to what Parker is
fishing there on the coast at Florida. We were on

(01:04:28):
the coast of Louisiana and I'm assuming that was a
redfish in that video, and uh, we got to experience
a lot of that. And you can't help but giggle,
like when that is happening and that reel is going
backwards and making that sound singing, you just can't help
but giggle. I mean, it is just one of the best,
all right, number one sound in the Turkey Woods, Parker.

(01:04:52):
Then the best sound now, oh sorry, in the woods
I meant to say in the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Woods is when you you are hunting a turkey and
you've been working in for some time and all's quiet,
and you in the game.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
You know he's coming, but you don't know where he's
gobbled last about twenty minutes ago, and you're just frozen,
and all of a sudden, you hear that drum and
you on top of you, buddy, and I'm telling you,
it gets your heart pumping so fast you freeze rock
solid and you hear it again.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
That's the best sound in the woods, if you ask
me beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Now, for those of you, a turkey drumming the spit
you can kind of catch on camera. But that sound
of the drum itself, it's one of those sounds that is,
for whatever reason, a microphone has a hard time picking
up that hum.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It's so low frequency, right, And like new Turkey Hunters,
I think here that like it doesn't even register with that.
Like I've tried to point it out to people in there,
like what are you I don't hear anything?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You know, you guys want to go next? Or do
you want me to go?

Speaker 9 (01:06:07):
Go?

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna speed mine up a
little bit. We already heard my number third. Number three
was Mingus barking Treed. We already heard Mingus number two.
This is also a video I sent to Parker. I
was really thinking about, like what makes me happy when
I hear sound? And I was thinking, man, when I
drop in some fish or some turkey nuggets into some

(01:06:30):
oil and that and that oil just is crackling away.
Oh yeah, ah, that is a good sound. And like
Parker said, you know something's good. It's about to happen.
You're gonna about to put that stuff in your mouth that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Changes a little too, like when you first throw it
in versus when it's ready.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah, that's good. That's a good point. That's a good point,
all right, number one. And I will say, man, there's
a lot of good sounds out there, but this is
what came to mind in the last twenty four hours
I was putting some effort into making this come together.
Is a deer walking through the woods, crunching leaves underfoot,

(01:07:10):
specifically a heavy deer in oak leaves. I don't were
you able to pull anything like that up, Phil.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
No, because this is literally the first time I'm hearing
out this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Okay, but you all, if you're a deer hunter out there, Randall, Brody,
you guys have both been there Pennsylvania, Ohio. It's like
another sound that you don't really see it before it happens.
It's like a lot of times for me when I'm
in a tree stand, that's what tips me off to
the presence. And somehow, I don't know how, but I

(01:07:44):
feel like I'm getting to the point where I can
tell the difference between one hundred and twenty pound doer
and one hundred and seventy five to two hundred plus
pound buck, like I couldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It's been so long since I sat in a tree
stand that as you're describing this, all I can think
about is how similar squirrels sound to deer in my
in my memory.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yes, And the moment you think you got that figured out,
you're like, it's a squirrel. You look over there and
there's the buck you've been waiting after.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Like, how does the squirrel make that much noise?

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
But man, when I hear that sound the same thing. Man,
it's just like you know it's about to go down.
You know, whether it's a dough or a buck, whatever,
you better like you need to get into predator mode
and get your bow in your hand, get your release
clipped on, and start focusing real fast because it's it's
about to go down, all right, Who's next?

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
It doesn't matter, Randall?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
You sure I can go? I brought in a prop
for my first sound.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Oh, Randall's opening a breakdown rod case.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Brody, if you'll hold this there?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (01:08:54):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Is this gonna hurt me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
No, ran I just need you to hold that nice.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Oh, I know where he is going with this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Now we go, Randall's gotta we go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Picture this. You're sitting by a riverbank at night, you
cast your bait out, settles on the bottom nicely.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
A warm summer night with crickets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
A warm summer night. You click off your headlamp and
you crack open an ice cold beverage, and then all
of a sudden you hear put that by your mic,
and then you hear and that's how you know, old
mister Katatterfish has your bait. Nothing more exciting than hearing

(01:09:34):
that bell ring when you're when you're calfishing at night.
Number two, picture this. It's deer season. You're with your buddy.
He goes one way, you go the other. You're hiking
five minutes, ten minutes, whatever, and you guys are the

(01:09:55):
only guys out there. Then all of a sudden, your
buddy shoots.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
M What about the the thwap is good too.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I was thinking specifically of when we're in Mexico and
we were listening on the radio and our buddy shot
a buck and he hit it good, but it went
off and we could hear him kind of scrambling like
I don't know if like where is he? Where is
he looking from looking for him? We're sitting there like
biting our lips and then all of a sudden you
hear boom, he found him. Just a gunshot where you

(01:10:29):
know exactly what happened. That's the best sound in the world. Actually,
that's number two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That's number two. I'm tracking. You have two great sounds
so far.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Picture this. You're deer hunting in Idaho. It's four thirty.
You got a long hike ahead of you, driving down
a bumpy road. You're listening to maybe a podcast, maybe
the met Eater podcast. Maybe you're listening to some music
that'll pump you up, rock and roll, hip hop, whatever
your thing is. You get there, you put your head

(01:11:00):
lamp on, you shut the car off, get outside, and
you close the door. Perfect silence when all that noise
just stops. I feel like whenever I close my truck
door and it's there's nothing. It's like something just washes
over you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
M M. The sound of silence.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The sound of silence, your number one, of silence, that's
my number that's my top three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Good job, random, top three. I enjoyed that, Rody.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
My number three would be a grouse flushing right at
your feet. You got the noise phill. Yeah, that's a
very exciting sound. If you're a grouse center and it
can take you by let's take you by surprise a
lot of times too, and it means good things. So

(01:11:55):
that's a good one for me and my dog. My
Number two is uh a magpie called called the whisper song.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Got that, Phil.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
It almost sounds like they're talking a little bit when
they're doing that, like human talking.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Sometimes I'm only familiar with the whisper song by the
Ying Yang twins.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Not familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
This is the whisper song.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
This one's way better than that because careless whisper, because
this is often out west the sound of a successful
big game hunt, oftentimes very soon after you shoot and
walk up to you know, mule, deer, elk, what have you,
You're gonna hear that song pretty quickly and it and

(01:12:44):
it goes on the whole time while you're breaking that
animal down because they know a big meals.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Coming so good the horizon.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Yeah, So that that's a sound I love. My top
one similar to Randall's, a little more specific. It's it's
when you because I think this is a very rare
thing to hear, which is like you get to the
glass and knob, you sit down and it usually takes
a little while to sink in and you realize that

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is completely quiet. There's no background noise, no cars, no
planes flying overhead, no dogs barking, no cows moving. It's
it's very rare to hear. It may be a little
more common out here in the wide open spaces of Montana,
and it's tough to find, probably in Wisconsin. But like,

(01:13:36):
it's almost jarring when it sinks in. Oh yeah, when
you're you're like, oh my god, there's like no background.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Like, no wind, noise.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Even they're no longer panting from the hikes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, you get that that rare, super still day. It's
it's it's the best man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
You've always got me fired up. I was fired up
an hour and ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, you guys.
Now with the sounds of nature the top ones, I
might just take the rest of the day off and
go fish and so I can hear real sing. Or
go fry some fish, or go find a spot in
the woods that is silent.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I want to go somewhere and just see if I
get surprised by a gunshot.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Hey Parker, thank you for joining us, Thank you for
bringing your work to light. Here and to share. For
sharing and for coming with the idea of the top
three favorite sounds. I'm sure we're gonna use that one again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
It was an inspired suggestion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Thank you very much, so for all of you at home,
thanks for watching and listening. We still got to do
more feedback. I figured Phil was just gonna cut me off.
You are free to go, man. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
You can walk away from that dead hawk now, see
he's a good sport.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Hey, well, how about this be honest. I'm gonna call
it quick audible instead of doing questions, how don't we
go over? The chat had a lot of great suggestions
for sounds from the outdoors. Oh yeah, I haven't really
I haven't been reading all of them. But we can
just kind of, you know, play it by ear Keith says,
drumming of a rough grouse, the song of a red
winged blackbird, and the thwack of an arrow connecting like

(01:15:17):
Texas Smoking says, turkeys wouldn't even make his list, which
seems controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
It seems like a hot take, Texas Smoking, I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
Wood duck as the sun comes up. It's pretty nice.
The first western meadow lark of spring.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
M that's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I like sandhill cranes. Yeah, so fun.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Spencer Newhart says, a big buck walking through the woods
sounds the same as a squirrel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
That's true, Spencer, you don't know he hunted in uh
North Dakota. They don't have leaves at the at the
deer crunch.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
On, Andrew says, an era slicing through the air, turkey
gobbling in the distance, and a bullock screaming at you
from thirty yards away. You guys didn't hear this, Randam,
when you were talking about your gun shot. I played
a gunshot, but I didn't have I didn't have the
audio in the room up so but the chat heard

(01:16:10):
it and apparently it was timed perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
So did a job once again?

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Did it go with my boat?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Did it did go?

Speaker 9 (01:16:16):
It was?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
It was this I look forward to watch. Oh, I
look forward to watching this on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Okay, that'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Randall, I liked it. It was that your friend shoots.
Spenser is arguing with you, says that they do have trees,
so not with leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
When you when you when someone when you were like
with someone and they're like, I'm gonna go after that
deer and you're just sitting there and like you lose
sight of your body and you lose sight of the
deer and you're just waiting and then all of a
sudden boom, it's just like what happened? You want to know?
You do get There's nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Better, Jude says, one million duck calls all at once
on public lands.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
No, that's not my not my job.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
And yeah, a lot of we got a lot of
upland birds flushing. So yeah, thanks for thanks for sharing
your thoughts chat appreciate it. Yanni, you are completely off
camera right now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Oh sorry, I'm just kicking back reading along with you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
We could do least favorite sounds sometimes too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Dwell on the negative.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Yeah, but you know it's part of life, things going
wrong out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
There, all right, So no questions today, Phil, You know
we're at a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
You guys. You guys don't seem very receptive to question.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
No, I'd love to hit a couple of questions. We love,
we got plenty of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
The only reason that I would get finished right now
is for your time, Phil. I want to be respectful
of you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
That doesn't mean a lot. I didn't have breakfast and
it's lunchtime and I'm getting them get a little hungry. Uh,
let's see. Spencer is asking, he says, ask the guys
how the sig Range Day competition went? In parentheses? Who won?
Is he talking to you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
I don't even know what range Day competition he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Oh, when we were out at the but it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Was the whole crew.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Who did with the whole crew except for me and
Steve recording the audiobook?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Are you there, Brody?

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Was I there?

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Yep, we were shooting together.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Who won? Spencer won? Good job?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Question?

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
What does just have to do?

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
He just wanted to talk smack. He's just sad he's
not here right now. He's well, that's the thing is
like this happens with Randall and Randall's in the chat.
Sometimes they're the ones fielding questions, so people just ask
them questions for.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
The whole show. When are we doing another live podcast tour,
possibly at the end of this year.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Nate's question, which let's see at the bottom at the bottom,
Oh yeah, yeah, Nate asks what it says Phil? What
was Randall's score on trivia if he played yesterday's game?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Yet he is legit I got a perfect game driving
into the Sorry, I mean I felt like questions one
through five were just gimmes for me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Chronograph I can't believe bro I both had the same wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Answer Great basin National Park.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Oh people. People in the YouTube comments Yanni were angry
about the about Nate's tree stand answer. They said that
that should have been accepted.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
No, it shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
But it wasn't me to make the final calls that
Sure was hosting. So all right, I agree with him,
it wasn't the right answer. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Let's call the show there, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You don't want to end on a good one, no, Phil.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Saying there's no good questions left. Randall, Well, here here's
the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
I I I love everyone who watches this show every week.
If you if you're asking questions in the chat, you're
you're you're doing a great job. But a lot of
the questions are sort of like, hey, can I have
some tips about deer hunting? And we need to get
more specific with the questions.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
You know that's at there just a weird question.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
We get a weird one, weird question Randall does doesn't
want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
I normally don't flag this super weird question. Okay. Freddie
Rick said he was late to the show because he
was butchering an antelope, and then he followed up with
what is a good use for the outside round besides
jerky or grind?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Outside round is a different term than what I know.
Is is he talking about top round?

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I don't know if he's talking top or bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
It's gotta be one of those two. Oftentimes. I mean
I just roast it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
They both of the rounds make good.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
Yeah, a lot of round.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Sticks totally if it's and what I'll do sometimes if
I cut one and it's a little bit chewy, the
next time I make that same cut, I just give
it a little pounding, sure, and it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
And listen, man, I feel like people don't use enough
good cuts off the hind court. If you want good burger,
use good cuts. If all you use is shank and
shoulder for burger, it's not gonna be great burger.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Preach that ship, Brody. Do any of you eat your
wild game brains?

Speaker 9 (01:20:55):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
That's from Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
But they want to know why not. Peter don't want
to know why not?

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
A yeah, that's my answer too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I guess like no one's ever come to me and
been like, hey, this is a good idea, it's delicious.
You should prepare it this way, like I just you know,
you hear of some tribes also eating some brains every
now and then.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
There's also like and I don't want to be like
scaring like people for no reason. There's also like disease
concerns with eating brain some brains of some animals like
c w D collects in the nervous system and you
know brain. Remember that, wasn't there some rumor flying around
about eating squirrel brains one time? That's right? So yeah,

(01:21:47):
I just don't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
See here's an example of one I'm not sure, Like Brodie,
I want your take, since you're you're you're giving. You
pulled me back in Gabriel ass put in for my
first hunt in southern Indiana and drew a bow tag
from middle of October. It's a unit that he can't
get into beforehand. A scout, he has two days to hunt.
Any advice or points.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
I think, y'all, this is not a question for me
because it's like a white tailed bow archery hunting question.
So I'll pass it off the honest.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
And you know I can't get into beforehand, so there's
no scouting and he has starting roll in.

Speaker 9 (01:22:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Year, you know a lot of people say that October
is the time for afternoon hunts. Going on that notion,
and whether that was the case or not, I would
spend at least the first half of the first day,
maybe more, maybe three quarters of that day just pounding
the ground and looking for sign and learning those woods

(01:22:52):
and trying to figure it out. I'm guessing it's a
sounds like it's a good tag to have if it's
so limited, so maybe there's not a lot of pressure.
I think that you pounding around and trying to figure
it out for three quarters of a day, that just
then leaves you like an evening hunt and then possibly
you know, a morning and evening the next day. That
is time better spent than just going in there off

(01:23:16):
of a and like a little bit of not that
you should definitely do a whole bunch of onyx gals
ahead of time, but like you can't rely and don't
be like that's gonna be the perfect saddle. You just
don't know. You got to go there and look, you
should find out maybe call down there and see what
the acorn crop is like this year. Like in Wisconsin,
this year we have a booner crop, but find out

(01:23:37):
what's going on down there for feed ahead of time. That'll,
you know, educate on where you need to go, what
you need to do. But I think my number one
thing would do to do was just be to take
the time on the ground the first day and pound
the ground. Find the sign and you don't have to
find rubs and scrapes and all that. Find like some
good looking deer trails that look recently used, fine fresh scat.

(01:24:03):
I think that you're gonna be well on your way.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
One thing I would add, even though this isn't mine
type of hunt, but if if this guy is talking
public land, I'd be looking on on X for something
that presents difficult access for a lot of other hunters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Sure got a hike over ridge.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
But the difficult access might have already been overcome or
been sort of presented through this draw of at tag
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Maybe it's Indiana, so there seems like there's gonna be hunters,
you know, true, true, good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Gabriel's start last one, last one here that this one's
for randall if they could, oh h.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I oh, I cannot support that. As a Penn State.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Fan, thank you all for listening and watching it home.
Hope you enjoyed this episode of Meat Eater Radio Live.
Who's hosting next week? Is it one of you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
I'm hosting Randall cal and Seth.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Hey, hey, that sounds like a banger of an episode.
It's gonna be tune in. They're gonna choose the winner
of the Moultrie uh Big Big Bowl trail camera will be.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Choosing the winner. Okay, but you guys, you have to
be watching live to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Okay, Randall's gonna present. We're gonna choose the top four.
Randall's gonna present the top four. And to leave you
one more time, let's listen to Randalls one of his
favorite sounds. Until next time,

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