Ep. 779: Canadian Moose, Case Knives, and Old Rifles | MeatEater Radio Live!

Hosts Brent Reaves, Seth Morris, and Cory Calkins interview Craig MacCarthy of North Mountain Adventures about the nitty-gritty of a fly-in moose hunt, have a round of MeatEater Show and Tell, go Craigslisting for outdoor gear, and chat with John Pantuso and Tom Taylor of Case Knives.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Smell us now, Eddie, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia met
Eater Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
That's twelve pm for our friends in Brent, Alabama or
as my mama Slide would say, Bryant, Alabama. It's Thursday,
October the sixteenth, twenty twenty five, and we're live from
the Meat Eater headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host,

(00:49):
Brent Reeves, and I'm joined today by meat Eaters Magnum,
p I Seth Seth and Phetamine Morris and Corey balsamic vinegar.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's right, bothamic.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I haven't heard that one before.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, I just you kind of led me into that
while ago when you were talking about that that new
sauce that you had for And since we're talking about it,
what were the ingredients for? Corey said, barslamic vinegar.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
A little reduced balsamic vinegar and some huckleberries.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And huckleberry and oh, reduce that down, put it on
a steak.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
That sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Nice job, nice job. We have got some good stuff
coming our way this today. I want to hear about
what you guys have been doing. Recently, and I'm probably
out of tune on what comes next. This is our show. Yeah,
it's Hunting season. This place is like a ghost town

(01:51):
except for us, the dedicated. It's just me, Phil, Corey
and Saith running this whole thing today.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, they can thank us for radio life.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I had just at the fire in here this morning.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, I says they could thank us for just keeping
the entire company afloat. Yeah, you know, yea Frankly, you're right, Yeah,
I legit turned the lights on this morning in this place.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
But it's good. This is the time when we're all
busy and everybody's out getting content that we will be
able to enjoy later. And speaking of content, medeither Season
thirteen This Monday, coming Monday, yep, this coming Monday, October
the twentieth, six pm Mountain Standard Time, new new episodes.
That says, here will be every Monday for the next

(02:34):
seven weeks. That's right, Seth, you were involved in I
was all of that, just about I was.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I was there for all of them except the
spearfishing one. I wasn't there for that one.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
You have a most memorable event from any of the
shows that's coming.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Up, Trying to think. You know, the one of the
cooler episodes I thought was the Alaska Bear Hunt. Just
that that backcountry stuff up there in interior Alaska is
so cool. I just love that country.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Which do you know what order that will be? Which
one that'll be? I don't have any idea.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I do know. I believe it'll be episode four, episode
four weeks from this Monday.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, A lot of good stuff Africa Alaska.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Or else Africa, Alaska, Texas, Turkey hunting down there with
Luke Comb's Africa Uh Montana muzzleloader hunt.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh yeah, if.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You watch the the last mussl order hunt that Steve did,
you'll have to watch this one to see if there's any.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Redemption ah little tea.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Or see if the same stuff happened. Who knows a.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Lot can go wrong with those old school muzzleloaders.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Uh so meet either. Season thirteen is coming out this Monday.
It'll be in. It'll go for seven weeks every Monday,
a new episode and Meat Eater Shed's is coming out
or is out right now? I think the last episode?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, Ben out the Jeff Fox were of the episode,
which has been a hit, but it has been really
popular checked out out on the meat Eater YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you know, I've got I got my own shed
from the folks at store More and I'm putting together
a studio podcast studio that I'm going to be recording
my stuff out of. Right now, I'm recording in a
bedroom upstairs in my house. And these folks were kind
enough to work with us and be a partner with

(04:40):
meat Eater. Now I've got a full fledged studio out
in the backyard and ore Is Alexis calls it my
Brent's house where I'll be staying, where all my toys
will be hey, and I'll be out there, But I'm
excited about working with those folks. As a matter of fact,
they issued or posted on their Instagram page today a

(05:02):
video of them delivering that thing, which was an event
all in itself so nice. Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You can see that on I think my Instagram, but
the store More Instagram too. It's STO R M O R.
I think buildings, but it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
They look like some high quality little storage units.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
The electrician got actually wrote on the fuse box when
they looked electricity at Brent's house. That's that's how where
they labeled that that connection there. So it's nice, very nice. Uh,
Tony Peterson, he's got a one is he's got it
shows it dropping today.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It just dropped five minutes ago on the Meat Eater
YouTube channel. Yeah, whitetail hunt in Iowa. Ooh, it's an
emotional roller coaster.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Really.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, you should check that out for the deer and
for Tony. Oh boy, for Tony mostly deer really didn't
know what was going on.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, we've got uh what else we got going Oh?
The Meat Eater Live tour, this Chris us that they
say it's a Southern tour. I say they are dipping
their toes in the South.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's like the shallow South.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, the shallow South. But it's a move in the
right direction. And who knows where the next one will be.
We're gonna be in like five different places or six. Birmingham, Alabama,
we will be there on December the seventeenth, Nashville will
be the next day on the eighteenth, Memphis the next
day on the twentieth, Fayetteville, Arkansas, which is sold out

(06:31):
on the twentieth, and then Dallas and Austin on the
twenty one, and twenty first and Austin being the being
the final show there. But it is. I'm looking forward
to it. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be me,
Steve Yannie, Doctor Randall and Clay bow fun and it
should be a should be a fun time. I'm looking
forward to getting out and seeing folks.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, well, Seth and I'll make sure the lights are
on and Phil, yea the lights.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Tour in the South. So hunting season, Corey, tell me
a hunting story.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Man this fall. This fall, we're just about to wrap
up Montana's archery season, and it's been a grind for
me at least. I just haven't been able to pick
my ideal weather. I'm just, you know, don't get to
pick your weather, as they say, and have gone out
eleven days now and it's just either been raining or sleeping,
and I just haven't been able to get into too
many fired up elk. I say that because I've been

(07:28):
pretty spoiled the last couple of years, actually having some
amazing encounters on public land. But this year's just been
a little bit tougher, which just makes me appreciate bow
hunting and the grind of it all. And Luckily, rifle
season opens up a week from Saturday, so I can't
wait to watch one fall over at two hundred yards
A number of giant bowls that I've had under one

(07:49):
hundred yards. I just can't do anything about knowing.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Any close encounters, getting them called in close, so they're
just they're not not leaving them.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I've had a few certainly close encounters, just not yet
have yet to draw my bow back.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Did you say where that was at? Because I can't
remember if you told me where that was?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
By that tree under the stage brush, the brown tree. Yeah, okay,
all right, it's been It's been good though, but I'm
excited about rifle season.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
What about you?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I actually haven't a hunted once so far. Really did
you quit?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
No? I didn't quit.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I I my fall kind of got all messed up.
I had a lot of plans to uh do some
a lot of fall fishing this year, so I wasn't,
you know, doing any practice at all with the with
the old bow, and then some stuff. One thing led
to another, stuff happened with the boat. Couldn't use the boat,

(08:41):
still can't use the boat. So I ended up getting
out on the buddies boat though, we just me and some.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Buddies did uh uh I saw some pictures. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
We did a big fall fishing trip to Fort Peck
and where's that central Montana. Ye went out there, caught
a bunch of small mouth, some nice ones, the biggest
one with six pounds.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, but no, it was it was fun just fall fishing,
you know, for anything is awesome, but fall small He's
just one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, everybody that killed a moose this year, raise your hand.
That's right. It was me. Nice incredible adventure in northern
Manitoba with some friends of mine that we're going to
talk to you in a minute. But when uh a
little lead into it. Over a year ago, Garrett at

(09:38):
Garrett Long asked, my boss asked me. He said, what's
what's your dream hunt? And I just spit out there.
I like to kill a moose in Canada. And he said, okay,
find an outfitter, because you got to have an outfitter
in Canada. And I'm like, sir, he said, yeah, let's
let's start working on it. So a year later it
all come to Fruition and we went to me and

(09:59):
Dave Gardner cameraman for me to eat contractor and good
friend of mine that I've been hunting with for probably
five years now on different projects. We go up there,
and it was from the time we left the bank
on that floatplane until we got back, it was just
one incredible adventure after another. And I think, mister Taylor,

(10:21):
we want to pull up pictures. Do we have some pictures?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Do you have some pictures?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah? Moose?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Look at that handsome Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, and that moose.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
That is a nice moose. Brent.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
It was.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's just an incredible encounter had all come about. I
don't want to give it all away because it was
just so so cool, but I will anyway, he surprised us,
just slipped out in the river while we were waiting
and four hundred and sixty yard shot. That's a ham

(10:56):
or shoulder. I can't remember which that is.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So you guys were you were hunting out of cabins,
like you're staying cabins up there.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
We flew flew in on a floatplane, yep, and they
dropped us off and we had a cabin there. In
the cabin there's a plywood floor and plywood walls and
a tarp over the over the top because you can't
have a permanent structure. I think it has a roof,
it's counted as a permanent structure there. So so the
craigging them built this thing earlier this year, I think,

(11:26):
and or last year. We'll asking about it in a minute.
But we was flying there and then we were headquartered
and hunted out of that thing out of a boat,
and we wound up killing that thing by boat like
a mile and a half from where we were staying,
God and put straight through the woods. It was probably

(11:46):
three quarters of a mile. But it's just man, it's
wild country. That northern lights were shining.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
On us, and it was just so were you guys
going out and calling for him?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Every day?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yep, every day. I killed that moose on the third
day of third day. I was there the second full
day that we hunted, and then everything else, I mean
we had the biscuit and everything else was the gravy
that we shot after that, and it's I'm really proud.
I'm think it's going to be really good. It was
fun from start to finish.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
What's the legal requirements for a bull moose up? There is?
There is? There is that to be certain with brow
tinns like Alaska's. You know some units you have to
have like four brow tinns.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. I wouldn't ask the
man here in a minute, because when he stepped out there,
he said, that's a shooter. And that's the last thing
I remember. Remember. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear
because that one picture that Craig put up, I mean
that Pheel put up there of the backstrap. Can you
put that back up there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, that is massive.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's the size of a deer.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's one backstrap. Now, I brought all this I'm bringing
all this meat home. I brought uh, we dropped off
everything at a meat processor, the meat station in Eric's day,
Old Manitoba, and I to get processed. And Craig's going
to bring that down to me later. But that is
one backstrap. And I brought both backstraps home and one

(13:12):
in each in each soft cooler. One of them weighed
forty nine pounds and the other one weighed fifty one.
I was talking to Alexzanmer last night that runs the
meat at or store here in Bozeman, and he said
that he cut up a antelope and had sixty four
pounds of meat. I thought, my gosh, two backstraps weighed

(13:32):
almost twice as much.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
As that's great, incredible, it's really really good and delicious too.
I imagine, Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Man, we started eating on it. We was not on
it that night, so I killed and we ate it
every night for supper. Then it just got better and better,
which brings me to the guy I want to talk
to about it, mister Craig McCarthy. Craig is Craig.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Are you there, buddy, I'm there, I'm here there there
he is Craig.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
And his wife Melanie. Their family run North Mountain Adventures.
That's a guide service there in Manitoba. Is that southern
Manitoba where you would be for Central Manitoba, in Central Manitoba.
And then his father has a concern, a guide in business, uh,

(14:22):
for moose up in the northern part, and that's where
and Craig guides for him up there, and that's that's
where we went up there. Craig, great to talk to you,
my friend. You've been a friend of mine for going
on two years now, I guess, but uh, we just
had a wonderful trip up there, and I appreciate, appreciate

(14:43):
you coming out here today.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I appreciate you inviting me.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
What tell us about about the guide in life? It's
not it's not easy, is it?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's uh.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Actually it's probably the most fun and I have all
years what I'm guiding. But yeah, sometimes you got to
be away from home. But that's just part of the job.
It had something I love to do since I was
since my parents started doing it when they I was
probably around ten twelve years old, helping out and it's
just progressed from there and now it's a huge part

(15:20):
of my life and my family's life.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Craig, I had a question for you, what all like,
what hunts do you offer up there?

Speaker 5 (15:30):
We do black bear and white tailed deer out of
our home and we started doing I started guiding for
caribou up north, which is an addition this year. And yeah,
then I guide for my parents and anybody else that
needs help.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Cool do any fishing trips up there too? Or are
you just just hunting?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (15:56):
We can We have a good walleye fishing and pike
fishing ten minutes away from here, but that's usually we
just offer our cabins and people come and stay and
go fishing. If they need a nice shock or something,
I have them here that they can use them.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, that sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, that's an adventure. See the ice fishing thing. That's
totally foreign to me. I bet yeah, no idea.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
You don't get too many opportunities to do that down
in Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, not many at all. And the water's clear where
we were at up there, we caught some walleye, we
caught some pike. That's right, pike, isn't it. Yeah? And
the pike up there that I mean, they're just like
a what we call a jackfish at home, but our
guar and oh yeah up there, man, golly, in that

(16:46):
clear cold water, they were so good. We ate them.
Craig flayed them out and took the bones out of them,
and we had those one night with some with some
moose and it was nice, fantastic. But you're not you're
a second generation guide now falling, you know, with your dad.
And your dad's still active. What about your kids, Hayden

(17:09):
and Kirsten. He's got two kids that are like Tier
one rodeo kids right now.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Wow, will they be joining? And you think in the
in the Guiden.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Business, I think it's probably pretty much a guarantee that
Hayden's gonna follow. He's an avid at doorsman. My daughter
is starting to be, but she's heavy in the role
with her mom when everybody comes out for cooking and
bacon stuff and yeah, bugging the guys.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, they're absolutely they're a fun family. Craig that that
cabin there is where is on Craigs? Where is his
home place where he lives. And that's where we were
when I bear hunted with him, when I met him
last year and killed a big old four hundred and
forty pound chocolate bear up there. We were staying right there,
and man, for bears, they're just they're just they're everywhere

(18:04):
up there. Yanni. I think Yanni filmed a filmed a
bear hunt up there with you this year, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
He shot a three hundred and eighty nine pound black
I believe on the third night.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Of his hunt.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, that's that's fantastic. Yeah, it's also not four hundred
and forty pounds. Sorry, Yannie. And he also y'all y'all
went on a caribou hunt with with Yanni too.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, we just uh, that was two weeks before you
came up.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, yeah, Craig was. Craig was hunting up. They were
in Now I'm going to pronounce this wrong, but it
looks like none of it, is that right? Nun of it?
How you pronounce it?

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, we're in Manitoba and the Nuna. It close to
the Nunavate border.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, they were, They were up there and then so
when I met Craig and when I went up there
at the end of Septe, he had been away from
homes like twenty six days at that point, is that right?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:05):
When I got home was twenty six or twenty seven days.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's grind you clean up well, bud it because uh
you don't. You didn't look as cleaning. Uhh, that's all
you used to do right now?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, I think I think at like day eighteen or
nineteen is when you quit carrying how you look?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, it was a great adventure. The Dave captured some
outstanding stuff. I think it's going to be really good.
I think the folks are going to enjoy that video
or film, whatever you want to call it. It'll be
a feature one next year, so it's gonna be like
a forty five minute deal.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So cool.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It'll be good. But Yanni's Yannie's bear hunt, Yannie's caribou hunt,
and my moose hunt will all be stuff that'll coming
out next year when when it's time for it to
come out there. So it was it's incredible. Now where
we flew into like two hours away from there's like

(20:05):
a two hour ride in there to to where we
were camped, no roads. How are you getting all? What's
the tell me? The logistics are described to the folks
that they might not know the logistics about getting how
hard it is to get just plywood in there because
you got to fly it all in right.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah, you bet. We Obviously, otters are our main are
the main flights that we use because they can hold
a lot of weight. So it depends on how far
the camp is for how much fuel they need, but
usually you're looking at you can usually put about thirty

(20:44):
five hundred pounds in a plane. So plywood's got to
be flown in two by fours, two by six as
the whole works, which you can never get on one flight,
so it's multiple flights in to build one camp. So
you're arounds probably two to three hunts before you can,

(21:06):
you know, start getting your money back.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So it's just now the whole process is hard. It's
it's everything about that is hard, but it's it's so
worth the effort it was. It's just an incredible to
think about how hard it is to get boats out there.
I mean, because you got to fly boats in, you
got the boat motors, gas, and it's an on going

(21:31):
back and forth of of of of supplies back and forth,
you know, and then you got you know, the moost
that the most that we killed there, all the meat
that you got to take back on it, you know,
and there's other camps with other moos. So it's just, man,
it's just a it's a big deal getting all that
stuff in and out of there, more even more so

(21:53):
than I than I realized about it.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
How do you get boats in?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
There?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Are the otters on floats? You strap into the floats
or how how does that work?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, absolutely, And as soon as you put a boat
on any size of boat, you reduce your weight by
twenty five percent instantly, even though the boat doesn't weigh
that much. It's just the wind and the dragon stuff
got cha. But we flew every single boat in on pontoons,
one boat at a time, and yeah, you just planned.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well, well you can hear me talk a lot about
actually describing detail that hunt. My podcast last week was
the first part, and the one that's coming out tomorrow
is the second part of that hunt. And I think
folks will enjoy it. I hope. So it was. It
was so much fun. I think the most rugged thing

(22:45):
we did was sitting in that seat on that thirty
forty year old airplane or whatever. They obviously put all
the design thought into making that thing safe to get
you from one spot to the other, but how you
got there, if you were comfortable A lot I ain't
really care about.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Sure, Yeah, but it was.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
It was so much fun, Craig. I can't tell you
how much I enjoyed it. I mean I've talked to
you nearly every day since then, since we got back home.
Looking forward to you coming down in the States later
on in hunting season and and doing some hunting down here,
and hopefully I'll get to get to see you.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
Then yeah next week, Colorado, Yep.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Nice, it'll be fun. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate you
being here, and thank you for everything for helping me.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Thank you, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Thanks Greg, Thanks Craig.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And they're great folks. That's the whole family. I just
absolutely love them, all right. Our next segment is show
and Tell shut Out. I wish I had that CD

(24:08):
rock what else?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I feel like you probably could put out an album
by now.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, when this, when this.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Show ends, I'll put out a I'll put out like
a either a just a big medley of everything or
like a playlist or something. I'll put it on the Reddit.
You guys can download it for those freaks that want
to listen to that.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, I love all of you. It's more you love
all four.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
All right. Show and Tale, everybody, Show and Tale, just
like kindergarten for me, which was like three years. Is
uh where you bring something to school or to show
all you pals? What uh something you want to show
and talk about? So Corey, you're first in line.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
All right.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Then I was going to bring in some boring stuff
like a giant elk shed or a mountain lion skull,
but instead I made a quick trip over to our
office free table.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Don't just know the folks what the free table is, Well, it's.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Exactly what it sounds like. If anybody's got some old
gear that they're not using anymore, or you know, sometimes
there's some partnerships hats and hoodies that might end up
on there.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Sometimes people use that free table as just a place
to get rid of shit they don't.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's Yanna. Yanni's got all sorts of old clothes in there.
I mean, if the if the local Goodwill won't take it.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
There's a pair of boots that's falling apart on the
free table. They came from Yon.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, speaking of old boots that are falling apart here,
I got a pair of size ten Corker wave fishing boots,
which these are actually also great. It's got it's a
felt soul, but it's removable. You can put a rubber
sole on. Oh nice, which I might snag these. There
are size ten, which is right up my alley, So
I thought that was pretty cool. I just grabbed one
of those.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
What else do we got?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I got there's a couple of DVDs up there. The
first one I snagged was the Will Ferrell and John Header.
I probably pronounced that wrong. Th heater hit Blaze of Glory.
It doesn't look like can we take open?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Can we take a poll in here? Who we think, yeah,
who put that there? Put that on there?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I thought it would have been philed, but he already
said no.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
My first choice would be doctor Randall.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
That's what I was going to say. Oh, could be
I feel like random might hold onto something like that.
I don't know if Randall's a big, a big, a
big heater head heater header.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, classic film, though, if anybody has a DVD player,
I think that's probably the problem these days. Uh, primost Truth,
Big bull sixteen, Go are you in this one? I
think I'm in Big Bulls seventeen because and eighteen, but
not this one.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I had to look it up.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Like the six Degrees of Kevin Bacon or whatever. That
thing is the elk shed that you had, yeah, that
you thought about bringing in, is in one of these
with you and Will Primos?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yeah right, It would have made a preview in Big
Bulls seventeen.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I actually tripped over that shed when I was calling
it a bowl for Will. It almost knocked me down.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
It was so big.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
There is, speaking of Primos, the terminator elk bugle sitting
up there, there's actually another bugle sitting up there right now,
there pack bugle. But this is the terminator. If anybody
ever remembers that, is it.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
A built in red it's got that blue read to it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh yeah, oh oh, it's not very a condition.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Look out the windo.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And Houci Mama, more primo stuff. The cow call that
ruined elk hunting?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Some is there that the cow?

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It just it's so simple to you. It's kind of
like the can. If you ever remember you can, Just
so easy to use. And then everybody started squeaking on them.
I think I have nine of these, no kidding. I
found so many of them in the woods. It's one
of those that should fit in your pocket or obviously
around your neck, and somehow it falls out of your pocket.
But I have so many of these just to the collection.

(28:00):
It's pretty funny. Got some musket nipples.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Oh you should see a doctor about that.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I was looking for some busket nipples.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Real.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's on a free table, a H and S strut striker.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yep, turkey call the.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Half of what you need. No, no pod up, no
pot on the free table's got to be.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Oh there's a.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Rodeo rope rope and rope Garrett.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Long, Yeah, that's got to be. It's gotta be Garrett.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. There was there
was a pile of them up there, and there's.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Just one left humanity. That's it.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And then it's really cool. Wicker basket.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I bought one of these at World Market the other day.
It was thirty bucks, So I'm what are you putting
in that?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
I put it kind of looks like a turkey fan.
Oh yeah, probably could decorate that. You can put a
turkey fan on either side.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh, look at that.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
That'd be great. Okay, you could use that as a
decoy for real.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yep, all right, do some reaping or weather.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
So yeah, if you want to get a job at
mege Q, you too could have access to all this
killer gear.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
It'll still be there when you Yeah, because nobody wants.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, some of the stuff under underemployment perks. It says
access to the free table.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Oh yeah, you never know, though, I swear when Steve
comes in and drops off a pile of stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I know it's a good day. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
He was telling the swings at the giving away a
swing set the other day that also included an in
reach right, yeah, Oh I missed that part. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was. You got to read the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh I stopped at swing set. I should have slapped.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
So that's what I brought in today.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Nice story.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Somehow, despite you grabbing something off the free table, still
more effort put into it than Ryan Callahan.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Thought about sharing my phone case.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Okay, Sath, what you got?

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I got? I got an old Winchester rifle.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Where did you come by this unit?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
So? This this was it's yeah, sorry, it's it's empty.
I figured, trust me, it's empty.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'll just stand there.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
This is a it's a Winchester Model fifty five random
serial number, built in nineteen thirty one.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
This was my great grandfather's rifle. Really, and he, from
what I hear, he bought this to feed his family
and neighbors and friends during the depression.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Was he hunting or robin folks?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
He was hunting? He shot from what? I don't I
don't have an exact number, but what I'm told is
he shot a pile of deer with this.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Really, Yeah, functional can you shoot it?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah you can't. I haven't shot it. Yeah, I just
recently inherited this.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
You got to kill a deer with it? Man?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, I would love to kill a deer with it.
Great grandfather, great grandfather, yep. And then when he passed away,
it got handed down to my great uncle and he
had it for a while. There's actually some of his
old hunting license Pennsylvania hunting licensees in here from the eighties.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Oh man, that's really nice. That's a legacy item there.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, so it's pretty cool. It's chamberdayin it says thirty
w CF, which is thirty thirty when w CF is
Winchester Center Fire Center Fire. So yeah, that's my show
and tell item. That's a bet I like, I'd like
to take this up to southeast Alaska and shoot a
bear with it.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Now you're from Pennsylvania, right, Yes,
you got to go back and kill it deer now too.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Deer season is just getting ready to start out there,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, The archery season just started, and rightful season starts
the Saturday after Thanksgiving, which I'm going back for.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So I'm going home pretty well after we get done
here today, because tomorrow I've got to do what I
brought on a video show and tale that. Oh yeah,
me bring up here that Phil can can show us.
This was filmed last March. This is my brother Tim

(32:11):
and I what we like, how we like to catch
cat fish. And you can hear my brother Tim narrating
in the background.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
That's a pile of cat fish.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Look at them. It surprises both.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
He should narrate your film.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
He should, he should narrate everything. Net we're gonna pull,
I had to say about the same amount in there,
but we'll, of course, we don't keep all. We throw
a lot of them back, but if, like if we're
doing a fish fry or something we can, we'll we'll
skin them all. And we we did for that one.
That one was our first foray into net fishing. We

(32:59):
both got commercial fishing licenses and we've probably caught I
don't know how many pounds of filats and we ain't
sold the first one yet. We give fish away to
friends and family, but we also eat a lot of
it too. But it's just so much fun to do that.
And that's it's a barrel net. And that net is

(33:19):
shaped around a roll of kind of the concrete reinforcement wire,
so it's pretty thick, you know, and you roll it
over and there's a man down in Louisiana. That makes
some force and it's welded together and then that net
is slipped over the top of it, and it's got
two throats on the inside of it where the fish

(33:39):
go in to go after the bait. And the bait
we use is in the shape and the size of
a block of velvet. The cheese and it's actually soybeans
and cheese mashed together in that block.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
That'd be one of those catfish trying to get in there.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
And you just put that in there and then and
then lay it on the bottom where you think catfish
will be and it.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Looks like it works.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Let me tell you the surprise in my brother's voice
when we pulled that first one up. It was beyond anything.
It was. It was surprised us both. And then we
had two more.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Just like, did you ever get by catch in there?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, you'll catch some some buffalo which we like to eat.
Those two in there, and we've caught turtles in there before,
and during different times of the year, like in the summertime.
You got to check them regularly. And it's about an
hour and a half from our house where we fish,
so during the wintertime, the cold months, there's more oxygen
and the fish or the survivability of them is We

(34:38):
had never lost any fish in there. We check them
before you're mandated to like. But he puts some nets
out Wednesday. He's back checking them today, and then when
I get home tonight in the morning, I'm want to
load the boat up. We're gonna go and run them
again cold and try to put some fish. But that's
that's our show and tell. That's it. A lot of fun,

(35:00):
fun way to catch him. Yeah, I'm a better barrel
net fisherman than Nyama cane cane rod fisherman. But it's
a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
He looks like you got to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, that's good. Those are channel cats and that's in
the Arkansas River. Oh where we where we catch those at?
Nice Phil, Yes, mister Reeves listener feedback.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Have we got any Yeah, you can't have any questions
for for Brent since he's not here very often. He
flew in just for just for you guys, So get
those questions in, but we have a few. Garrett Springer
wants to know how your your East Coast trip was
seth any highlights?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Oh yeah, it was great. Yeah, at a wedding in
the York Maine. My cousin was getting married. So we
flew into Boston and uh spend a day there checking
out all the things in Boston. Saw the tea party party,
Bunker Hill. Yeah, just hung out downtown and Paul Revere's house.

(35:59):
Saw that cool.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
That's one part I've never been to the same. I'd
love you to.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I was impressed with Boston. I'm not a city guy,
but that city was like clean and quiet and and
was Yeah, it was like pleasant.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Are there still cobblestone streets?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, it's cool because you're walking through skyscrapers and all
of a sudden you'll walk upon some old building.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
It's been there since like the sixteen hundred. Yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, go visit. So from there went up to Maine, York, Maine,
which from Boston, New York's about an hour drive and
was right on the coast there. Did the wedding thing.
Stopped at Kittery Trading Post just check that out, which
is like this big outdoor store just right there in
Maine and Kittery, Maine. They got some first light for

(36:48):
sale there. Nice actually hit up the they had a
big old barget been there for some fishing baits, so.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I stocked up brought some back for the free table. Buddy.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, there's as up there stuff that obviously doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
It was just the right fisherman ain't fishing with.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
And then I on their way back to Boston, I
stopped in Salem, where the witch trial stuff went down. Scary.
Let me tell you, this time of year in Salem,
it's a weird place. It is a weird place. It
was cool, but very busy.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
My wife, yeah, very love that spooky scary movies all that.
I'm out, bro, Yeah, I don't like none of that.
I was.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
We went there with like the intentions of, you know,
seeing some historical stuff and reading some plaques that kind
of stuff, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, and it was just it was a circus.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Just yeah, there was, I mean, thousands of people.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
There really like witches and oh yeah really yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Must be the upcoming holiday, I guess.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah. I mean I thought it wouldn't have been crazy
busy being early October, but I can't imagine what it's
like on Halloween. But it was cool, extra spooky.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, yeah, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Matt is looking for tips for still hunting fall black bears.
Pennsylvania doesn't allow bating, and I finally found a spot
with some bear trails. How do you know you're in
the right place at the right time.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Mmmmm, Well you can look for bear scat yep, and
the fresher obviously the better, and find out what I mean,
find out what they're feeding on this time of year.
I know in Arkansas now it's it's acorns.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, an, that's all I was gonna say, acorn flats
or you know, anywhere where there's a bunch of white
oaks still on through that, especially like white oak stuff
adjacent to thick mountain Laurel or you know, good cover,
the wind yep, get the wind right, just slip through
the woods quietly. It's nice to if you're gonna do

(38:51):
that in Pa where there's a bunch of leaf duff
on the ground, try and pick times where it's like wet, damp,
rainy you through quietly.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I know that when this last, this last bear season
in Arkansas, Bear John was hunting on public land and
he was still hunting like that, and he was you
got to look up in the trees too, because the
first bear that he encountered was already up in a
tree knocking acrons out.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Oh really that's cool.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Wow, So I had something to keep in mind when
you're slipping around. Good luck.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Leland is like, I'm gonna pose this to seth but
open field. Best practical use for fox? First, do you
have a lot of experience do anything with fox?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Socks fox, fox, sox, fox and socks?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
H All, My I have foxes just hanging up in
in my house. They're just pretty red foxes. And I
have a great fox too hanging up. But I mean
you they're they make like a nice red fox makes
pretty cool trim around like a coat, a coat, a

(39:59):
coat hood or something like that or collar. Yeah, but
you can kind of do whatever you want with them.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
Really, yeah, I just like the natural pelt hanging up
like yeah, yeah, scarf maybe scarf fox, scarf, blindfold, blindfold.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Sure, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Let's see here we have.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
There's a lot of questions a fe you, Brent, just
they want more details about your trip in Manitoba. Steven
asks for just like a specific highlight the best part
that's his his dream hunt, and then Al asked specifically
about the landscape. Some major differences about other places you've
been or what you're used to. Would you like would
you dislike.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
The high I tell you the the thing that was
hardest to get used to is walking on that spongy ground,
the smile on my back. It took me about two
or three days to get acclimated to that. And just
because it's not you think it's easy, like walking on
big shag car marpet, but it'll if you're not used
to it, it's it'll it'll play on the smaller back

(41:04):
a little bit. But the landscape was similar. The trees
were shorter, I think than than where I was at
in Saskatchewan bear hunting or filming for play several years ago,
back in the Bear Hunting magazine days. So we were
a little farther north on this hunt. But the uh,
the high light I think would probably be after we

(41:28):
killed that moose. We had it all loaded in the boat.
Craig was obviously driving the motor, and Dave Gardner, our cameraman,
was sitting beside me, and the moose was all in
the front and we had headlights to drive by, but
it was it was kind of dusky dark and the
sun wasn't up, but you could kind of still see
a little bit, and the Northern lights were on top

(41:49):
of us, so we turned our lights out and actually
drove back to camp in that boat with that load
of moss by the by the Northern lights, and they
took a picture and you can see the silhouette of
the elk antlers in the front of the boat and
I'm sorry, the moose antlers in front of the boat,

(42:09):
and then the lights and it was just, yeah, it
was that would be probably the highlight.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Is there grizzly bears up in that country? No?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
About now, we were like, we wasn't that far from Churchill.
I'm not going to say the mileage, but it was
just a little over one hundred miles from Churchill where
they have those polar bear yeah expeditions or whatever. And
there wasn't any seals there. But I even said that

(42:41):
in the podcast there wasn't a fence to keep them
from coming down there to see what a moose takes
or a guy from Arkansas either, But we didn't see any.
And there's black bears there, but we didn't see any.
So all wolf had an opportunity at a wolf had
a good opportunity at a wolf. I've heard that before
and it stay. It's still it's still was an opportunity

(43:04):
a wolf and I absolutely missed him.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Oh it was terrible, sounds like an adventure.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
It was.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Luckily the most is a lot bigger. I hit him.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
All right, I'll do one more quick one before we
move on to the next segment. But people are asking
how the buck Hunter trip was that random?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
And I went on it. It was a lot of fun.
It was so it was so much fun.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
We got a lot of footage I need to start
sifting through and we're gonna put together a little video
that's mostly about Randall and his journey competing in the
Big Buck Hunter Amateur Open tournament. But we also we
got an interview with the creator of the game, which
is I mean, he was an awesome guy. The community
there it was unbelievable, like everyone like they're playing for
real money, but everyone's just having a blast, you know.

(43:47):
It was it was a really cool environment, a lot
of stimuli, just surrounded by arcade games and loud music
for for ten hours a day.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
But it was It was a lot of fun. So
is the guy who made Big Buck Hunter? Is he
a real big Buck hunter. Uh no, he is not.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
But there were a lot of people there who were
real hunters. A few of their pictures there were gripping grins,
and that was my question.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, well, what was the percentage of hunters there to
just game players?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
It was hard to say. I mean, we didn't interview everybody.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
There were one hundred and twenty eight players, but but man,
all the best players lived in like the middle of
nowhere in Saskatchewan. So we kind of just assumed that
those people probably do some real hunting.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
I'd say it was probably around like twenty percent hunters
eighty nine hunters. Yeah, so they're they're scattered in there.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I can't wait to watch.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
All right.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Our next segment is called craig Listing, and Corey kind
of pulled this rabbit out of his hat, or was
a good one. I know that any other orifice you
can name.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And that hat is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
That is probably the best thing. And so what we
did was Corey Seth and I last night. Our homework
was to find something unique on a craigs list somewhere
in the US, and we did that and got some
screenshots of it. We're going to show and Corey, you're
you're on, you're in the box man. Okay, what'd you find?

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Phil?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Which one you got first? There doesn't matter, I'll pull
it up here. I'm going to share two of them
just because they're so so great.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Corey, Yep, I definitely went down the Craigslist rabbit hole
last night with a couple of whiskeys.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
This one's just funny because it's I can't really tell
what they're selling, but it's titled hunting smoke pole.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Smoke pole with cope mountain.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Obviously a rifle, yeah, because that's what I call a gun,
is a smoke pole. Got a picture of a dandy
white tail buck on a tailgate there, but there's no
picture or anything of.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh it's a tradition's buckstock, Okay, traditions buck stalker.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, be great to have a photo of that. I
feel like, if you're trying to sell something, look what
it does.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Showing you the results.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yes, yeah, it will make a deer lay down in
the back.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Fifty caliber size size fifty. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Oh that's everything you need.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
A condition excellent, We'll take his word for it.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, but a smoke pole, three hundred and twenty five bucks. Yeah,
that was uh somewhere between West Virginia and East Virginia.
Okay from somebody from Montana.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
That was great though, Okay, and then this one really
caught my eye. It's advertised as a hunting blind or
an extra at the pool, but it's a porta potty.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
We're there, phones, don't fall in, don't.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Fall in, hunting blind extra at the pool, guests who
are messy for businesses. I'm not sure what kind of business.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
It's a weird post to do your business. Never used.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I mean it does look very clean on the inside.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
This was in Florida, which that was the first place
I looked for funny hunting Craigslist ad right, I'm not
sure why, but it says it's ready to go, never used, clean,
never used, but it's been cleaned out.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
So never used for relieving yourself or never used for hunting.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
There you go, Well, grammar matters, I do.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I would love to see this in the woods and
all of sudden you just throw open the door and pow.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And in both directions.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
So that was random obviously pretty good stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
All right, seth, what do you get, buddy.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Let's see, I don't remember which one you use. That
mine's the farmhouse with acre there it is farmhouse with
acre thirty nine dollars, which I felt was fair m anyway,
the description is what kind of attracted me to this
post old fashioned farmhouse high in the private mountain side,

(47:55):
West Virginia. Need work as is? And now this is
confus using it I read. I read this as uh
four feet two inches by appointment only, No r t O.
I don't know what that is? Cash only, must sell quickly.
My loss is your gain near Rock, West Virginia. Great

(48:19):
hunting spot and four wheel trails, cool selling, baker selling point.
Oh this this here, grab my attention. It says country
road take me.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Home, all right, that'll make a great song.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
And then he reiterates again it needs work, and it
says again it needs work and a handyman dream as is.
Seriously interested buyers only?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
What's rto stand for?

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
You can't have any of that thing.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
People with more craiglist experience that No r t O.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
What is rto stand for?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Return return to.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Off, recovery time objective?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Oh yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I don't know, but the where he says, well, hunting property.
I like that, and then he adds country road take
me home, yes, lovely.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, that's like that's marketing right there. I like it.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
It does sound like a dream.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Handyman dream.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah. I'm not a handyman. I don't like to do
that stuff. But there are handyman. Yes.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
But if you want a great hunting spot farmhouse with acre,
I don't know if you meant to say acres are
not it's there's no the acres are not listed here.
So you know the chat.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
The chat's yelling at all of us, mostly me because
I wasn't reading it. It means rent to own, no,
rent to own.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
All right, all right, this guy sounds like he's in
a pickle and he needs cash now.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's his money. He needs cash now,
he needs yeah, called went with all this is, uh,
this is what I found. My first perusal last night
was oh yeah, now this is in Council Bluffs, near
Council Bluffs, Iowa. Oh man, this guy, it's fifty percent

(50:18):
off all of this stuff that you're seeing. And and
I highlighted two things. That big old pike right there
with a that's a jack of diamonds spoon bait hanging
out of his mouth. Now that is that is in Canada.
That's like the Gordon Lightfoot of fishing baits. Yep, you
can catch everything.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
That's called millions of pike.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
You can catch anything on there except pneumonia. I mean
it is. That's what we fished with when I was
bear hunting up there. That's what we fished wished when
I was with Craig two weeks ago when we caught
some pike and walleye. And so if you can't catch
a fish, you can buy one and hang on your
wall and x thing, which is not going to be

(51:02):
that big of a deal to y'all, but the folks
that know me. I first thought that was for like
twin papooses, that you'd put that in babies on your back.
But that's snow shoes. That is foreign to me. Yeah,
but they're made out of wood, and I thought it
was really cool, and that'd be cool hanging up in

(51:23):
a hunting cabin or wearing them because it's snowing outside
right now. But anyway, Council Bluffs, Iowa, everything is fifty
percent off. You're actually losing money by not going to
buy this stuff. You don't want to lose money?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Now does he does he say how much each item
is or just everything's.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You just? I mean, I mean, what are the what
the would you need? That seems to lure my wife
into every shoe store.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Bogo, that's what got me in that uh that fishing
Bend Kittery trading post.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
You just start picking up stuff. So anyway, pretty cool
Craigslist times. You can find everything on there. He was
also selling the washer and dryer in there, but oh really,
I was more impressed with that dead fish and the snow.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Shoes fifty percent off. He could get the washer for free.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
It's like, oh yeah, well you're you're you're going to
paying for one snowshoe right left right now that comes in.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
You can probably turn those around make a profit.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
The next folks, we're ready to go to on r
we Phil. Yeah, I want to talk with my friends
from Case Knives, John Pantusso and Tom Taylor. They were
the folks that reached out to me at first when
I first did a podcast and just organically mentioned Case Knives,
and these guys have been they come on as the

(52:46):
whole as a sponsor for the show, but they've become
dear friends of mine and my families. We've been out
there to visit with them and talk to them. And
I talked to these guys almost daily, but absolutely weakly,
and they're just they couldn't be better. I've been on
some events with them and been to shows that were

(53:07):
sponsored by CASE and it's just a it's a big
family group of folks and I just absolutely love it.
And they're from your neck of the woods, Pennsylvania, but
in Bradford, Pennsylvania coming to us live. There is Tom
Taylor on the right and the t move Josh Allen
on the left. That is John Tusa.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Hello, boys, Hey, thanks, hey guys, thanks for having us.

Speaker 6 (53:33):
I was I was wondering how long it was going
to take you to crack that one. Brandon oh Man, Yeah,
thank you, thank you guys for having here.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I've been sitting on that one just waiting then waiting.
But you could absolutely do stunts for that guy, especially
before you got your haircut. But you guys are out
in Bradford, Pennsylvania. Case nows they're making pocket knives for
one hundred and how many years now? One hundred and

(54:00):
thirty six, one hundred and thirty six years. Yeow. We
went out there last summer summer or last year, Alexis
and Bailey and I went out. They invited us to
come out for a Maiden Bradford event that they have
out there, and they took us on a tour of
the where they make all the knives, and a case

(54:22):
pocket knife that I towed in my pocket goes through
like one hundred and sixty seven steps from the time
the raw materials come in there till that knife goes
out the door. And there's all the people that work
in there, and they got a hue mangous American flag
in the background on it. And when I was in there,
I asked the guy who was giving me the tour,

(54:45):
Tony Defaisio, who was an engineer. Is that right engineer
with case? He was giving us the tour, And I
asked him if I could film in there, you know,
for like social media stuff, and he said, yeah, man,
you film anything you want to. He said, but make
sure you get that big America flag that's hanging on
the wall back there, because we're really proud of that.
I'm just proud to be here and connected with y'all

(55:08):
associated with you. Tell me what y'all got going on
that's new out in case right now.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
Well, I was just looking on Craigs. Let's try to
buy that hunting blind. But seriously, we've got a lot
of good stuff going on. We just launched a cool
new product, the Crossroads Barlow with our hunting hunting season
around here, so making sure all our partners have the
right hunting knives.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
I know our dads are always asking.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Us, you know, for new equipment to use.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
But yeah, yeah, and obviously, like you know, Christmas is
already around the corner.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Right so the gift giving season.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
I mean, who doesn't love getting a knife as a present,
you know, And it's our product, especially like Brenton, you
can attest to this. It's it's generational, right so you know,
you got dads buying knives for their sons and so
on and so forth. So this is this is our
kind of a busy season right now.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But we love it.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
We can sell knives every day.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
It's great. Well I'm happy to report that they were
at once sold out about a month ago, but they're
back in stock now. My the Brent Reeves Signature case
Mini Trapper is back in stock here at at in
the Mediator on the online store, and they'll be getting
them in the Bozeman store here in the next couple
of days, a few days, but you can get them

(56:28):
now on the on the store. And that is an incredible,
uh tribute to my family, not to me, but to
my family's relationship with case knives and now the relationship
that we have with the folks that make them. And
I just couldn't be more proud to call you guys
friends first of all, and and business partners secondly. So

(56:53):
it's just I appreciate it so much. I know that
I know that we have a text thread, these two
guys right here and me and my wife have a
text three.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
It goes back, shout out to Eles, give a shout out.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
There goes on periodically and we we have a we
have a good time.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
The Barlow, y'all just came back out. Tell us about
the Barlow and the history of the of the Barlow
and how that's the Barlow pocket knife, which should be
common knowledge to folks probably my age and older. And
it maybe y'all may not know what I'm talking about,
but tell us about the Barlow knife.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
So the Barlow we we call like the knife, the
Barlow is a pattern, right, so like the trappers a pattern,
many trappers of pattern, the Barlow is probably one of
the oldest jackknife patterns. You know that even predates case, right,
and so everybody knows. You know, our product we make
pin together with the bone handles, brass liners, we used

(57:55):
stainless carbon steel. But recently last year we started a
new product line, the Crossroads, and so now we're reintroducing
the Barlow pattern with sort of like a modern touch
to it. So it's it's screwed together kind of like
a modern flipper would be, and it's got some more
modern materials, like the handles are rich light and G ten,
so they're super light, and they're they're pretty strong and

(58:17):
durable as well. And it's an upgraded steal too, so
it's S thirty five m, so it's got super good
edge retention, GROSI and resistance. And it doesn't take away
from what we what our bread and butter is, which
is you know, your your favorite the mini trapper with
the bone handles, and we were always going to do that,
but this just gives us sort of a different product
offering for those that are looking to carry a pocket

(58:39):
slip joint, but with something that's a little bit more modern.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
Yeah, our slip joints will be around forever, but just
putting a modern span on a traditional pattern, keeping that
heritage of the one hundred and thirty six years, but
you know, just bringing it into you know, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Absolutely it's a beautiful knife.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah. I got question for you guys, like how many
different knives do you like? Different styles of knives do
you make? Oh?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
A lot.

Speaker 8 (59:12):
I think there's I think it's in the twenty that
we call them patterns. So there's twenty twenty two different
patterns we make of flip joints, and then we've got
fixed blades.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
We've got some modern flippers.

Speaker 8 (59:25):
If you walk through that factory, I think it'd be
amazed that not only the people that are working there,
but just the operation and the amount of intricacies that
go into every single different knife.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy, I think, like with all the
different because we love using natural materials, so so bone
we use from a zebu cattle from South America, So
we use that bone on quite a bit of our stuff.
We like using woods as well, buffalo horn, buffalo horn,
and we've done a lot of other avalon a lot
of other really like pretty natural materials. So I mean

(59:57):
with all the different bone die and variations we do,
there's probably what like six to seven hundred different individual
skews that we made.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, and like you mentioned that Barlow was that predates case.
But like how many patterns or whatever you want to
call them, or or did like case come up with?

Speaker 8 (01:00:17):
Oh, I don't know what exact number, but there's a
lot of them, just like the copper lock, the Sidebuster,
Sidebuster Junior, the rust lock. Yeah, there's definitely patterns specific
the case that are trademarked.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I know that you mentioned about walking in how incredible
it is to walk in and see all the different
knives in the factory. And I was like my wife
Alexison hobby lobby. I had to touch everything in there.
I couldn't go buy a shelf with that laying my
hands on it. It was. It was absolutely incredable.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
We had a guy following Brent taking the fingerprints off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
They waved me on the way in and wighed me
on the way out make sure I did and stiff
sticking my pocket. It's full, but there was the people
was really was what was really heartfelt. And I met
a man in there, and I talked about this on
the on the podcast, I tell a real quick story.
When they invited us to come out, I wanted to
take some knives out there that was special to me.

(01:01:16):
So I took the first knife that John sent me
in the mail for the just like, hey, we appreciate
what you said about our knives. So I took that knife,
and then I took one that I bought for my
dad when I was fourteen, and I got that got
that knife back after he passed away. So I carried
that knife and we went in the factory and the
first guy that they introduced us to that's working, and

(01:01:37):
there's a man by the name mister Dave Jackson. I
think he worked like fifty three years, and at that
time he had worked like fifty one years. So I
was talking to introduce me to him. I was thinking.
I started doing a little math in my head and
I pulled that knife out of my pocket. And on
case knife, there's a you open up the blade on
the tang, which is right next to where it clips

(01:01:58):
into the into the knife itself. There's always codes and
dots on there that you can tell from what when
that knife was made on there if you have a
key to it. So I handed I pulled that knife
out of my pocket and I handed it to mister Jackson.
I said, would you have worked on his knife? And
he pulled it, opened it up and handed it and said,
oh yeah, I worked on that knife and handed it

(01:02:19):
back to me. And it was really cool to be
there and talk with the man that built the knife
that I gave to my dad, the first knife I
ever bought. I gave it to him and then I
got that knife back and to take it that on
that that's cool. Big circle of taking it back out
there was really cool. And he went there. I talked
to several folks man and been working there like thirty years,

(01:02:42):
over thirty years and generational employees. It truly is one
big family out there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
It's really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah, they're beautiful knives. My son Marshall has a knife
that his grandfather gave him and Marshall always asked about
It's a case knife. I couldn't tell you which model
it is, but it says grandfather and grandson on it,
and that'll be his first tont knife. Hopefully in about
three years when we get to go deer hunting, he'll
get to break that out. He asked about it all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Nice, beautiful, It's awesome, man, it's good stuff. Well, I
certainly appreciate, Uh, you guys being on here. Anything else
we need to cover before we move along? You guys
got anything?

Speaker 6 (01:03:26):
Oh, Brett, how did you like?

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I do got to ask?

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
How how did you like that that ridge back when
you were processing that moose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Up in Canada? Man, let me tell you. You see
the pictures of that. Yeah, I'm gonna put those pictures
up on my Instagram so folks can see it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
The first thing is I don't know why we didn't
call that knife the razorback. But after that being said,
that being said, Craig was very impressed with that, with
that knife, and Dave Gardner as well, and Dave, I
don't know how many moosies, but he scanned a lot
of elk, but uh, they were very impressed. We I went,

(01:04:05):
we went through that whole moose and I didn't have
to sharpen it. After all, we were cutting meat on it,
cutting meat up on it the third day and I
finally put it on a wet rock. But it was
really good, really held the edge and really easy to use.
And uh, yeah, I loved it. But I'm I'm saying,
you know, razorback Ridge back I could have. I think

(01:04:28):
I think we missed the opportunity there. We can do that,
all right. Thank you, guys. I appreciate you so much,
and uh look forward to talking to you probably before
I get home today.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Take thank you. Oh man. Those dudes they're they're great
people there, and they're they're a lot of fun, a
lot of fun. If we got any more listening.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Uh this is from you. Guys. Have a favorite headlamp
anything you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
I do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, I have it, Brenton, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I've got my friend Michael Roseman makes sunspot lights all
coon oat lights, and Steve loves him as well, but
he also makes one called a ben Oak light and
it's like a head just just got the straps of
going your nagin instead of having the the you know,
the helmets. Yeah, and I actually used it up in

(01:05:30):
Manitoba on that moose hunt. And I'll put some pictures
in up there. That's that's my favorite. You can get
them from uh sunspot hunting lights dot com. I think
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
We had him at the Mediator store for a hot minute,
but I don't know if we do anymore. That might
be my favorite headlamp too, because I was bear hunting
black bear hunting in Montana with Clay and his son
Bear John, and we had a grizzly bear that I
had bumped three times and she seemed like she was
just kind of hanging around us. Plus we had a
dead bear on the back of our backs right And
when the sun went down, my little black diamond head

(01:06:00):
lamp was doing great at least being able to see
one step ahead. But then Claybow broke out that big
coon light holee cowt.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah that was what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Felt like the sun came back up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, it was on spotlights that reason it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
I need to get one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
That's my favorite. Cool thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Devin just wants to let us notice his eight year
old son Dylan cut his first fish yesterday, big Northern pike.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
He's watching the show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Congrats, congrats, congratulations Dylan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
And the last, oh not the last, sure it won't be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
This one's just for me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Brian asks, do you all let your wives decorate the
shoulder mounts around the house for Christmas? I don't know
why we have to, you know, relegate that to just
the wives. You know, I'd love to do that too,
But do you guys decorate your mounts for holidays?

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Alexis tried to put a Santa Claus hat on a
deer I had one time, and I said, nope, we're
not doing that. Disrespect tough.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
It's I agree, it's a little disrespectful, but my wife
is just have a funny agreement where I get to
put them pretty much wherever I want, but she gets
to hang stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
My elk has a Rudolph Christmas ornament hanging on it
since last Christmas. Right, it's too awkward to reach without
a ladder.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
And I'm not judging folks. That's just my opinion. I
don't do it, but you can if you won't do
yeah and be wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
This was for Corey from Chase. I don't know if
you have an answer, Corey, but he seems to think
you will. What clothing type is best for early season
archery hunting? Polyester lightweight Marino or some type of blend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Oh, Marino all the way, because for tempts in the
like seventy to ninety degree range. Yeah, I'd say Marino
all the way. I mean, there are some great synthetic polyesters.
First Light makes the Yuma, which is great too, but
you just can't beat First lights Wick. If you like
the hoodie like I do, keep the sun off your

(01:07:51):
ears and all not, or you can just get the
quarter zip or the long sleep. But lightweight Marino. I
always have a backup in my backpack just in case
I get too sweaty. If it's that hot, you probably
don't you eat a backup this time of year. That's
always against myself.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Well, that's the nice thing about Marino is when it's
seventy to ninety and you're hiking around the Elk Woods,
you're not gonna stink. Yeah, but you will stink it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Synthetic gets pretty ripe after half a day, where Marino will.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Last year was a little spicy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Yeah, spicy to the nostril, get a little spicying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I like Marino for everything every time of the year.
Me too hot, cold in between.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Bass layer, mid layer, Yeah, go Marino.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
A really quick one from Russell. That was from Chase
by the Russell's asking what caliber you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Use for your moose? He said, sorry if this was asked,
but he had to leave the show to help a
youth deer hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Great, well, that's a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Good reason to reason to believe. But it was a
three hundred PRC and I had to shoot that rascal
three times with it, all three of them, more than
I was in the ball of room, and he acted
like he didn't even phase him. It was tremendous, tremendous round.
It performed wonderfully, and I got one of them back
to Tech. The guy that's Tan and the hide found

(01:08:58):
one of them. Oh cool, So that'll be a little
a little good nugget of gold. I'll get to keep
the antlers.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
And a nice little mushroom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Oh yeah, yeah, it was good. Yeah, two hundred and
twelve grains of stop and lay down.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Cameron's asking, if you guys put in for Eastern Elk
Quota hunts, have you ever done that any I put
in for Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, Seth and I were just looking at some Yeah,
I was just showing Pennsylvania bowls. Good Lord on a
different level here, but for them in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yeah, and I know Kentucky is that's probably your best
odds of getting You're right, Yeah, I don't know the
other states. There's a handful of states that have you know,
Eastern Elk. I should say Elk in the east or
not Eastern Elk. But yeah, there's and seems like more

(01:09:55):
and more states are starting to have seasons, and more
and more states are starting to have hell these days.
So they do well back East, they do real well
in Pennsylvania. I know that big. Let's do one more here.
I thought this one was fun. This is from Leland again.
He's asking what the oldest rifle that you have used
to harvest game is. If you know the answer this question.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
It'd probably be a thirty thirty Winchester. Thirty thirty I
think that's probably killed more deer than C. W. DU.
In South Arkansas where I grew up, it was a
thirty to thirty lire action rifle. Whether it was a
Marlin or a Winchester, yep, And that was probably And
it was my oldest brother, Tim is his brother in law,

(01:10:42):
and it was his grandfather's gun. I think. So it
was like three generations that and I got to bar
it and kill a deer with it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
My first dear rifle was a Huskvarna three h eight.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Really yeah, the chainsaw folks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yep, same company used to make rifles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I did not know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I don't know the year of that rifle. I still
have it had had a straight red or straight four
power red field on it, And yeah, I kill a
lot of dealer with that thing until I bought a
different rifle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
But that was a steal rivele you bought after that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Yeah, real loud, so loud. I had to put oil
in it, but no I should, I should. I'd never
looked up the year of that rifle, the Huskvarno. That
should I should never even heard of it. So that
gives me something. But I'm sure that's the that's the
oldest rifle that I've ever killed something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Yeah, a lot less exciting. It would have been an
old two forty three.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
That was my dad's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
That would have been my first big game harvest, which
would have been an antelope when I was twelve. I
couldn't tell you the brand, but I do remember it
was a two forty three.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
It nice, my father does.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah, you got it, yep, little man, Marshall, get on that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
That'd be a great first gun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah yeah, Well, if you shoots it half as good
as he writes a book, it's gonna be outstanding.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Watch out, Stephen Ranella.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
He's coming for you. Phil. Is that it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Yeah, it's gonna call it there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
We're gonna We're gonna put the cork in it or
pull the plug or whatever it is. Alexis and Bailey
get ready, Daddy's coming home. Thank you boys to catch,
I got a plane to catch. Thank y'all for being here,
and thank everybody for tuning in and listening. Hopefully I'll
be back soon. Do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Thank you Phil, Thanks, thanks guys,