Ep. 782: Pearl Farming, Hinge Fishing Spots, and Worst Game Agency Logos | MeatEater Radio Live! - The MeatEater Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome to Meet Theater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
That's noon o'clock for our friends in Mitchell, South Dakota.
Happy opening week of Pheasant season to everyone there. On Thursday,
October twenty third, and we're live for Meet Theater HQ
and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Randall
and Corey. On today's show, we'll interview Josh Humbert, a
pearl farmer in one of the world's most remote places.

(00:49):
Then we have a white Tail Rot report from Mark Kenyon,
followed by some top three lists, and finally we'll interview
Michael Burton about using dating apps to find phishing spots.
But first we want to remind you that the Blood
Trails podcast drops on October thirtieth on its own feed
that's simply called Blood Trails. This is a new investigative

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podcast for Meat Eater, hosted by journalists Jordan Sillers. Each
episode digs into true crime stories from the world of
hunting and fishing, cases where the woods and the water
became the backdrop for violence and mystery from missing hunters
deep in public land, to poachers turned killers, and fishing
trips gone fatally wrong. Blood Trails uncovers the moments when

(01:31):
outdoor life collides with homicide. Each story features original reporting,
expert insight from detectives, and first hand accounts from the
people who were actually there. The trailer is out right now.
You can go watch it on the Meat Eater podcast
YouTube channel and again the first episode drops October thirtieth
on the Blood Trails podcast feed. Very excited for that show. Also,

(01:53):
Randall has a plug for you now.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I'd like to direct everyone's attention to the Is
it on the main channel.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's as live as we are.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
On the main Meat Eater YouTube channel, there's a new
video called the Great Buffalo Bred Experiment. And this is
sort of a high concept. It's high concept. Weed was involved, No, no,
just just it's elevated content. It's for a sophisticated, discerning viewership. Essentially,

(02:25):
when we were researching both the Mountain Men audiobook and
the Hide Hunters audiobook now available for purchase shameless plug,
we kept running into descriptions, and you run into descriptions
of this substance in any sort of writing about the
great Planes in the early nineteenth century a substance called
DePuy or how you spell that dee p u I

(02:50):
l l e s, And you get these very vivid
descriptions of it, and essentially it's the cap of fat
from a buffalo shoulder, and they prepare it by frying
it and then smoking it for a day, and they
repeatedly say that it's a substitute for bread. So you're

(03:12):
eating some meat, you eat this as your bread. And
in fact, we have one account where he says it's
superior to any bread that's ever been made. So Steve
and I made this and subjected some folks in the
office to a blind taste test to decide once and
for all whether this is in fact superior to any
bread that's ever been made. So this video on the

(03:33):
YouTube channel now is called the Great Buffalo Bread Experiment.
And we found we got a buffalo from our friends
at Northbridge or Bison, and we cut off the requisite
chunks of fat and we followed the instructions to a
tee and you can see the results of that on
YouTube now.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
So back in the day, they smoked these caps of
fat in a Dynama teepee.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
They used a a tpe an actual buffalo of skin
buffalo hide t pee.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
I wondering if if there is a subtle hint to
smoke nylon or not.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, No, I don't think that was the problem.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Not to give too elevated content, only cool interesting piece.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean experimental, experimental culinary scene.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, Caleb's asking Randall, if you have any wine and
cheese recommendation to pair with this elevated content.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Maybe some depuya, I would say a tall boy of
Mickey's Mickey's Malt liquor, Yes, and some string cheese. That's
what I got. Cheese cheese whiz, Actually, cheers whiz. I
used quite a bit of that. Try to get my
dogs to take a shower with me the other day.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
We don't need any more.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
On that, well, we'll.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Get some of that in our next segment here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
So that video is live on YouTube right now and
Blood Trails will be available next week. Alright, fellas we've
been in the field lately, let's do some hunt recaps.
This would make Yanni real happy. Random what you've been
up to.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, last weekend, my wife Sydney and I went antelope
hunting out in eastern Montana. We did not have any
antelope tags last year, so we were excited to get
out there because it is our favorite wild game to eat,
and so I feel like that's a hot take. I
feel like the more people you talk to, I feel

(05:27):
like it's more common than you'd think. Okay, just a
just an antelope steak, super rare. I love it. But
Sydney shot this buck. We had a slow day the
first day it was super cold and windy and didn't
see a lot of antelope on public land, and then
we pulled into a spot the next morning. Sydney glassed

(05:48):
this buck from the truck and I ranged it with
my range finder and with the sig buyos and you
can drop a pin on where you range. So we
dropped a pin on him about thirteen hundred yards out
and then hopped into this draw and kind of circled
all the way around and got up on the little

(06:09):
knob that he was on and couldn't see him, and
they had all bedded down, So we crawled around on
our hands and knees for probably half an hour within
two hundred yards of these antelopes. Finally she spotted him,
just his horns behind the sage brush, and I was like,
I had to tell I had to ask her, like

(06:29):
pointed out to me, pointed out to me because I
couldn't see him, and then eventually I got him. We
crawled around until we sort of had an angle and
then waited for them to stand up, and she ended
up shooting that antelope at like one hundred yards, which
is super cool. And that was she basically did everything
on that hunt, like she spotted the animal, she once

(06:49):
we got in on it, she found him again, she
turned him up, and then I was like, do you
want me to try to get him to stand up?
You know, I'll clap my hands or something, and she's like, no,
we'll wait, We'll wait, and then she stood up. So
other than sort of the navigating on ONEX, she did everything,
which is really cool. Hell yeah, and yeah, that's the dogs.
The dogs were waiting in the truck and onto the

(07:13):
next photo, and then I shot this one. Later that day,
we spotted a buck real far away that looked like
a dandy and then dropped into a little draw and
we ended up having to cross this muddy creek a
couple times, and eventually I said we're a mile and
a half away. Let's just get up on the flat

(07:33):
and book it and then drop back into the draw
so we don't have to cross this creek again. And
as we got up onto the flat, there's kind of
a little roll in this guy and some doze were
bedded there, and I figured a bird in hand is
whatever the saying is, So I shut this one. Yeah,
And we were close enough to the car that next
slide phill Sidney went and got the dogs while I

(07:55):
began the processing work. And you can see there on Rosie,
my most surprized hound, she's got a little bit of
antelope blood on her back because she likes to roll
in things. And so that gets me to the cheese
whiz that I was describing earlier in this episode. The
dogs all needed a pretty serious bath afterwards.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And uh and so you're about to see a picture
of you in the shower.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Nope, nope, nope, but you will see on the next
slide we this is That was our dinner when we
got back is beautiful. Two backstraps from one of the
antelope cal and Sam came over and we uh just
pan fried him and we made a sauce called Cumberland sauce,
which is like a classic mill It's like a classic
steak sauce. It's sort of a cranberry it's almost like

(08:41):
cranberry sauce, but it's like a drizzle glaze type thing.
And it was quite tasty. So yeah, it was a
great start to the fall season and getting ready for.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Some more here a good couple days of analopin. Fantastic
classic goat en counters.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Oh yeah. Oh, and then the highlight probably was we
were driving down a two track and bumped a little
covey of sage grouse. So they're probably about ten birds
that looked like, you know, kickballs with feathers.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And you still got that trivia question wrong yesterday? Or
were they not greater sage grouse?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
No, they were. They were greater sage grouse.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I don't think I've ever seen one in person.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh they're unbelievad They're so big. Yeah, and they just
bumped up and went about forty yards away and put
down again. And then we sat there and took a
bunch of video of them and super cool. I've seen
a couple of them just you know, deer and antelope punting.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't think we got a conclusion to the cheese
whiz thing.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, it worked at first, but then they all got
they all got really mad when the water turned on.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
What happened? You put cheese whiz like on the shower
door or what?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, so we have like a walk in shower with
the glass door, and so I put a bunch of
cheese whiz on the floor and then pushed them towards it,
and they all attacked the cheese whiz and then I
turned the water. I shut the door, turned the water on.
But then cheese was isn't really soluble in water again,
so there was actually quite a bit of grout cleaning
that was required afterwards. I don't recommend it. I'm working

(10:08):
on a new solution, but we don't bave our dogs regularly,
so I don't have that PROGRAMM. Try whipped cream. That's
a new one. It's easy to go one. Yeah right,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I got in a up country That up to you, man.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I've had a very exciting fall, but exciting yet unsuccessful
so far. Been chasing Elk all September and a little
bit into October. A lot of close encounters, trying to
get a few buddies into Elk but haven't flung an
arrow and archery seasons coming gone rifle O Big Game
General Rifle opens this Saturday, so I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Days from now, give her hell with a rifle. You're
gonna be out there.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Oh yeah, okay, yep, got a few trips planned. Hopefully
I don't need to even go back out later in
the season. I just have a deer and an elk
tag in my pocket. So I haven't drawn anne open
a few years.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
That's because you're not putting in for the right units.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
What are the odds to kill kill an elk this weekend?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
This week? This weekend?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Pretty low because everybody, but it's more like four percent. Yeah,
but as the season drags on and it gets colder
and snow ear ask me in a couple of weeks, have.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
You ever killed one on a rifle opener? Yes?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Okay, fact my very first elk when I was thirty. Nice,
just in the right place at the right time, caught him.
He was running away from other people.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
That is the advantage of opener. They're where they were
for opening morning, they're where they were the past week,
and then they're just all over the place running somewhere else.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Last week I was in Idaho for a bit. I
had a deer tag there for their opener. I had
red reports going into the hunt that the unit I
was going to be in had EHD reports. I'd seen
things on Facebook about that part of the state having EHD.
But it's like at that point you have the tag,
there's no like refunding the tag and IO like some

(11:57):
other states have when when this sort of thing happened.
So I was committed him going, and I went, and
it was worse than I could have possibly imagined. Last
year I had the same hunt and I saw I
think more deer on that hunt than my other, like
four hunts combined. It was just like that plentiful with
white tails. This year on opening day I saw zero

(12:18):
live deer and found five dead ones. We've got a
picture of one of them here, including two bucks that
would have been no doubt shooters. This buck, he almost
made it. He got out of velvet, meaning he survived
into September. The season opened in October there, but he
died of EHD at some point in that month prior

(12:39):
and then I found it. You know, a couple dos.
This is like a textbook scene of EHD when a
deer has EHD, they only make it. I think it's
like one or two days. In those final hours, they
have a very high fever where they are just boiling
from the inside, so they seek out water, you know,
hoping to feel better. And so you'll find deer that
just die near water or in water. He were two

(13:01):
does about ten yards apart that had died in a pond,
and then I found another buck that would have been
a shooter as well. This guy did not make it
out of velvet though, so he died probably sometime in August.
Because his antlers were fully formed. He didn't have like
the hot dog points that those deer will have in
you know, June and July, so he seemed to almost

(13:23):
make it as well. But it was just a real bummer.
I did have a consolation prize turkey you can kill
a hen there in the fall, and I have zero
turkey in the freezer and was not going to pass
up a hen, so I shotgun to that thing not
too far from camp. And then when I got home,
I also had an analope tag in eastern Montana. Drove
out there and killed a buck and so he is

(13:45):
in my freezer as well. That is just what I've
been referring to as a copy and paste antelope. That's
the kind of buck that's just like copy and pasted
all over the prairie in analope country. He looks like
every antalope.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I called that an antelope that looks like an analope.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, which is I think the three of us could
bring all of our analyopes skulls in here and mix
them up and try to, you know, find out who's
is who's and we'd we'd be as successful as we
would be blind, is my guess, because that's just like,
that's what an antelope buck looks like.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Still fun to hunt though, and especially coming out of
my Idaho hunt where I saw zero deer on opening day.
When you have an analope tag, you're like just guaranteed
to see analog It's so refreshing. They're like, you know
you're going to see your target.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It's a fun hunt, and you can hunt all day.
You're not like waking up at the crack of dawn.
So what a bummer in Idaho?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Though, I hear.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
There's a bummer. So there's like a few silver linings
they quickly recover. It's not like CWD, where once you
have it, you just have it. In most cases, those
herds can can bounce back in two to three years.
They also develop an immunity to EHD that lasts what
I've read is from like seven to ten years, so
that that unit will be okay, the state will be fine.

(15:01):
But I feel bad for obviously the deer, the hunters
who are local to there, and then the biologists who
have to deal with the deer and the hunters who
are upset about the whole situation. It is just like
no win.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
So I believe there's a similar situation up in north
central Montana happening.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, and Ohio has got EHD really bad right now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
We had an Ohio or an EHD report from Kip
Adams a few weeks ago, and I think Ohio was
the low light of the whole report because they are
dominating the rest of the country right now as far
as EHD numbers go. All right, let's get on the
show and do our first interview.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Joining us on the line first is pearl farmer Josh Humbert.
He is the owner of Kamoka Pearl, which is located
in one of the most remote places on Earth, Josh,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Hey, guys, thank you for having me. It's exciting to
be here.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
And we appreciate you waking up so early. Can you
tell us where you're speaking to us from today?

Speaker 7 (15:55):
So I'm actually speaking to you from my deck in
in Tihiti. We have a home in uh in the
town of Chopo where the Olympics were. I was supposed
to be at the farm for this, but I've come
to Tahiti a little bit early, have some tete to do.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Uh and uh. I got bit by a shark last year.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
I'm still doing some of the some of the rehab stuff,
but I also had had pearls to bring and the
pearls I'm working on right now. So yeah, I just
kind of got got my hands full. And uh and
uh and so here I am. I'm not I'm not
on on the the aphol which is called a Hey
and it's it's in the very northern, uh, the very

(16:41):
northwest corner of the swims.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
So uh. Yeah, it's kind of the last the last
apol going north.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Gotcha, And so what what is your family's connection to
this place? How did you end up in that part
of the world.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
So we arrived down sailboat when I was two years old.
My parents built the sailboat in uh in the the
backyard of the house they were renting in Torrens, California.
My dad's French, my mom's American. And so they built
this this boat out of basically like whatever they could find,

(17:20):
you know that it was basically made of chicken wire
and rebar and u and concrete and uh. They built
this boat on complete shustring budget. They didn't have any
money at all. My dad actually pulled the coordinates from
a wooden boat magazine.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
I don't know if anyone's familiar, but.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
It was just just numbers, you know, just numbers on
a page and and uh and he, like whatever, figured
it all out and and together they built this boat
and and sailed away with with myself and my brother
who's three years older than me, and and two cats,
two dogs, and and three hundred dollars basically wow, yeah

(18:01):
and uh. And so we sailed down to uh to Baja,
lived there for almost two years, and then from there
went down to French Polynesia with the intent of going
to Tihiti, but we stopped in on this this asoholist
on the way, and the locals took us in and
and really treat us like like family. And so we

(18:23):
kind of put roots down there, and my dad got
to the sailboat and turned it into a saline freezer
basically so that so that he could take the fish
that the locals would catch and uh.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Mm, should pop back in.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I say, christ for it, gotcha?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Basically, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was gonna say, for listeners who might not be
familiar with French Polynesia, can you talk about just how
remote we were, you know, like placed this on a
globe relatively speaking, and how remote you're Your atoll is from, say, Tahiti, So.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
We're about two hundred miles north of Tahiti.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
And uh, yeah, there we are. Cool, Okay, cool, you
pulled one of our videos.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, so it's very remote.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
We're thirty five hundred miles from uh from the west coast.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
Of the US.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Actually sailed there last year with my dad and uh yeah,
it took it took a month to get there. So yeah,
it's it's it's it's quite a ways out there now.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
So you're you're in the pearl farming business. Can you
walk us through the basics of pearl farming. What does
the process actually look like?

Speaker 7 (19:45):
So basically, you you have to collect your your oyster
when it's when it's still like at its planktonic stage.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Basically, you set out what we call.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
Collectors at a certain time of year and they swim
and you know they start life as as swim in
large a and uh they they they seek out a
good place to to ah to to colonize and they
grow up there.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
So once we once we do that.

Speaker 7 (20:12):
The the oysters grow up basically and to a certain
size that it takes about almost three years to get
them to to uh, to the size of which you
can do what you see here in the video, which
is the the the implanting and the harvesting the first
peril takes about twelve months.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
To the harvest. Wow, that's what you see there. So
it's it's it's quite a it's quite a process.

Speaker 7 (20:37):
It's it's a kind of a labor of love. It's
it's a lot of work. It's it's a lot of physical,
physical labor.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
But yeah, we we love it.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
So who are your primary buyers? Are you selling to
to consumers directly or jewelers or collectors or what's the
structure of the the market there.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Well to people all around the world.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
I mean, we we probably saw more in the in
the US than than anywhere m M, because that's kind
of what our marketing targets. But we literally sell pearls
to any country that's safe to.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
Send stuff too.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
So yeah, I mean the primary market would be the US,
but that's probably because you know, we we focus a
lot of our our ad spend on on on on
the US market.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Uh. You know, our our.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Videos are all all in English, and and that's definitely
like the market that that we focus on most.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Gotcha, I imagine that there's a sort of a romantic
notion of pearl farming in a tropical paradise here. But
what are the day to day challenges of your operation?

Speaker 7 (21:51):
The probably our biggest challenge would be just keeping our
oysters safe. We have to keep them safe from from fish.
You can see in our in our videos, you'll see
the oysters hanging in these long baskets and basically the
trigger fish. They're kind of our our enemy number one.
They're they're they're really smart and I don't know if

(22:11):
you guys know what trigger fish are, but it's a
fish about about ten pounds or so, and it has
a job that's so powerful. I think the bite force
is like three hundred PSI. So they can, Yeah, they
can just rip through just by anything. And they can
break an oyster, which is pretty impressive because you can
take a hammer and it's hard to break an oyster.

(22:33):
Like they have so much integrity, like this way, Sorry,
we got some.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I thought I saw a wrist rocket. What are we
doing there?

Speaker 6 (22:47):
What is happening?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
There's there's roosters around, and I keep I keep some
some some like shit pearls on hand.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You might be the only man in the world that's
loading his wrist rocket with pearls. This is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, for those listening, Josh just loaded a sling shot
and shot it during the interview at a rooster who
was encroaching on his audio.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Good on you, Josh, so yeah, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
No.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
I was just saying that there's too many of them
around and we need to do a little rooster call
and have some cocal event.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
I don't know if you guys are oh, yeah, except not.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
But yeah, so so as far as like protecting your oysters,
are you guys doing a lot of diving and and
and fishing or spearfishing. I mean, what's the what's that
look like?

Speaker 6 (23:46):
So we we do do a lot of spearfishing.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
That's basically how we feed ourselves. We you know, it's
it's remote and and we do get stuff on a
like a weekly or or every other week supply ship.
But we definitely we like to eat fish. You know,
we're we're a meat eaters, more fish than uh than
than land meat. But but yeah, we fished literally every

(24:12):
every single day. And yeah, we we we we uh
we usually go spearfishing. That that's kind of our our
go to and it's generally pretty safe. Like I said,
I got I got a bit last November, which I
don't recommend.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Was that Was
that a spear fishing encounter?

Speaker 6 (24:32):
Yeah? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
Uh, I was spearfishing the friends and uh the shark
came straight up on me and grabbed my my uh
my my calf and kind of like pulled me down
and I got uh. So we we we put which
we put two turn kits on it, but we put
the turn kets right on the peronnial nerve, which I

(24:54):
don't know if your audience knows not, but that that's
the big nerve that services your whole or leg and
it's one of the few places where you're not supposed
to put a tournique and uh and so my my
whole lower leg was offline for for about three months.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
Wasn't sure if if I'd walk again. It was it
was all pretty uh, pretty scary. But I'm walking now
and I'm pretty good for the most part. I'm back
at about ninety percent. But but yeah, I sorted. I
did not mean to get derailed. We're talking about pearls. Yeah,
so it's just I mean, that's a spear vision. It's
part of our life and uh and it's it's what

(25:35):
we do. It's it's how we we we feed ourselves.
But as far as the oysters, they they they need
to be kept safe from the from the trigger fish,
from the the the the sea turtles and and the
big big leopard rays. And we do that by keeping
them in in uh in baskets. And we we've actually

(25:55):
had some really interesting developments with that h recently. So
for for years now, we we take our our fish
to to shallow water where where there's a sorry, we
take our oysters to shallow water where there's lots of fish,
and and the fish come around and clean clean all
the all the stuff that grows on them, And uh,

(26:16):
that's really cool because that's basically like it's it's a
it's a way to get the oysters clean and it's
also a way to support our local ecology. We've been
doing that for for thirty years now, and there's more fish,
more more life in our area than than anywhere in
the whole the whole appol and so that that's been
a real source of pride for us, just to see that,

(26:39):
like our work can actually be regenerative to the the
lagoon and ecology. But recently we've kind of taken that
to another level where we we keep our oysters in
zones that are relatively shallow and the.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
We what we what everyone does, they close the basket
so that so the figger fists can't get in and
pull the oysters out. But what what we did.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
We kind of kind of took a risk on it
about a year ago and we started opening the baskets
and just like attaching the first the first oyster was
a little bit deeper down in the basket and the
thinking is that if there was a little bit deeper down,
theer fists can be able to pull them out and
and and it worked. And so it's basically like cut

(27:29):
our our labor by about.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Fifty percent, which is a lot, you know significant.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
Yeah, I'm sure a lot of your audience are farmers,
and I'm sure they could they could really appreciate what
that means. And it also increased our our productivity basically
the rate at which the oysters grow by about thirty percent,
which is massive. And so anyway, yeah, it's it's really exciting.

(27:58):
And we basically consider all this stuff open source, like
we we want other people to be doing this, like
we're you know, we we communicate on it through our
channel Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, YouTube.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
And the whole you know.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
The best thing that we can do is share what
we're doing with other people and the hope that that
other farmers do it too, because the more the more
farmers do this, the more the the doing ecology will prosper. Basically,
the the number one fish that that cleans our oysters
are parrotfish, and and so by supporting the parrotfish, you're

(28:36):
actually supporting, uh, the coral as well.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
What parentfish do is they they.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Go around and they graze on I mean they you know,
they eat different things. But one thing that they do
is they they graze on on on the the algae
that grows on dead coral. So what that does is
that it enables the coral to keep growing. If if
the coral gets calinized by algae, it can't it can't,

(29:03):
it can't grow. So when the pearfish come by and
clean it up, then the the coral prosperous. Basically by
supporting the Yeah, by supporting the parfish, we're supporting the reef,
and the reef supports this whole other you know, there's
all these other downstream effects from it.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
And basically like basically figured this out.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
Like like I like to think in terms of permaculture,
you know that the first ten of permaculture is that
before you do anything, you you observe, you know, you watch,
and I just I had this moment years ago when
we were you know a lot of years ago. I've
been doing this for yeah, thirty thirty some years now,

(29:49):
but I had this moment where we were we brought
a bunch of oysters in, Uh, they were dirty to
the farm to the temporary platform that's there, and we're
you know, we hung all the way to in the morning,
and then throughout the morning we went through them and
cleaned them and and uh, you know.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
It's really it's really labor intensive.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
You're you're scraping all this stuff off the oyster and
you got like like stuff splattering in your face and
stuff some of the beaches and things, and it's.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Just it's it's not it's not fun work at all.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
And and then at noon, like we you know, we
stopped for lunch, and then we went back out and
we started working again.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
And I went to go get.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
A string and I pulled it out of the water,
and I'm like it's clean, you know, like and it
was something that that we'd noticed before.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
But I just had this this epiphany that's like this.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Real the classic aha moment where I was like, wait
a minute, what are we doing, Like why are we
scraping these oysters when the fish are there and they're
they're ready and willing to do this work for us.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
And so from then on we just kind.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
Of went all in with with the whole concept of
fish cleaning, and we built out all these all these
structures underwater in shallow zones where there's lots of fish
that were like kind of like big like spider webs,
and we'd hang all the baskets from from from those
platforms and the fish would come around and and uh
and and clean them all up, and then we take

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them back out to the.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Line like a couple of days later.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Cool stuff.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
And then so now like we basically like took that
idea and then and then went further with it by
opening the baskets. And it sounds so stupid, like, oh,
just opened the baskets, but you know, like when when
you lose so much money from the from the predation
of the fish, you get really kind of shy of
of doing.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Things like that.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
So sure, that's what we've been doing, and it's been
working really well, and I don't know, hopefully I'm not
I'm not not talking too much.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, it's great, Josh. You mentioned earlier that you run
an Instagram and you do some some communication and outreach.
If folks want to learn more about Komocha Pearl and
your work, where can they find you?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Just Kumoka Pearl.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
We're on all all socials and yeah, just look us
up anywhere. We my son and I monitor all the
all the socials. He does most of the posting and
I answer the comments and respond to questions and stuff,
and so.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
We're you know, we're there.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
We're very easy to find and so if people reach
out to us, most of the time we'll be able
to respond, unless we're in a place where we can't
do that, or like sometimes we have stuff that goes
viral and we just get inundated.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
I'm sure you guys know what that's life.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Sure well, Josh, thank you for waking up early again
I know it's early there and joining us on the
show and sharing with folks about your world. We appreciate it.
Great to meet you.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Thanks, Josh.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Awesome. Nice to you guys. Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
No, no, no, what was that?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
That's how you say goodbye?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
And to Heshian?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Did you know that? Or do you google it?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I had time to google it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's a great contribution to the show, Corey.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I'm glad you thought of doing sharp Corey. I want
some of those those pearls around.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I just I want to see that. I just want
to see that place. Yeah, that sounds wild. It sounds beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
All right. Next up, we have a rut report.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Hope we should be tail run Kim, It's already here.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Kenn's gonna tell you what should do.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Text you bye cause your weaping kids.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Goodbye. Don't decide to desert you. Here is Mark Kenyon
with your white tail update for this weekend. Take it away, Phil.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Hey, guys, Mark Kenyon here with Wired to Hunt, and
I'm coming at you with another one of our rut
reports here for October twenty third, and I'm reporting from
the windy, blustery and uh quickly cooling cornfields of southern Michigan.
What I'm experiencing here is something that many hunters across
the country are, which is this colt this moving across

(34:01):
the country. And that's good news for hunters because deer
are definitely on their feet. Getting a lot of reports
of even daylight activity from mature bucks right now. So
take advantage of this weather system if you can. I've
also been getting reports of a couple early doughs.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Coming into heat.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
This is earlier than usual for most parts of the country.
I wouldn't expect that to be a trend, but it
is something to just keep an eye out. You know,
the rut is a bell curve, so there's a few
that are going to come into heat early, and then
most come in that mid November time period, and then
a few off in the back end too, so that's
all beginning to rise right now. Scraping activity is peaking
right now at this time of the year, so scrape's

(34:39):
gonna have more daylight activity than at almost any other
time of the year, So keep an eye on scrapes,
keep an eye out for that early dough that maybe
can get the bucks in your area really feeling ready,
and otherwise count on more daylight activity right now from
your local deer than maybe you've seen over the last
three weeks, but they will likely still be in their
home turf sticking relatively close to the patterns you've been

(35:02):
observing over the last few weeks. So it's a great
time to be in the woods. I wish you luck
and I will be back in two weeks for another
rut report.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's a pretty good camo pattern for that corn feme.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, oh maybe that's walnut.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Either way, it looks good on your mind, Yeah, disappears.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Feeling inspired after Mark's little report there. I love this
time of year. Because it's like it is very good
hunting right now, but the best is still yet to come. Well,
so you've like got you've got weeks of really good
movement to look forward to you and it's like just
starting at this moment, that's just goosebumps just hearing you
say that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
For the best up to date whitetail movement information, go
listen to Rot Fresh on the Wired Hunt podcast feed.
New episodes drop every week and have rot reports from
hunters across the country. Also, Mark is really excited about
his newest episode of Wired Hunt. That's episode nine to
six three, featuring a deep dive into the lessons of
Roger Rothar. Mark calls him the influencer of today's white

(36:00):
tail influencers. Again, that's episode nine to sixty three on
the Wired hant feed.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
And let's not forget about white Tail e edu every
Wednesday on the meteor Clips channel.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Nice Mark and Tony make those.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Mark Tony and what's coming on.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
They're answering all the white tail questions you didn't know
you had and the ones you do have. All Right,
our next segment is top threes.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
We're just hitting all the drops back to back, good

(36:46):
camera work Phil as well.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, yeah, yeah, we make do with what we
have in this room.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
All right, this week we have all brought our own
top three lists. Corey, start us off. What are you
ranking today?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (36:59):
I had a lot of help last evening with my
beautiful wife Sarah after a couple of glasses of wine.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
So this one's for you, honey.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
This is the top three hypocritical complaints hunters with families
make in the fall.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, so that's very specific.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Let's think about those honeydewes or stuff your spouse may
ask you to do in the fall. All the while,
all you're thinking about is hunting. Sure, so number three
fall decorations that might annoy the crap out of some
You know, some spouses might go a little over the
top with fall decorations, but hunters are awfully hypocritical about it,

(37:35):
because boy, they go decorate trees with stands and ladders
and trail cameras. Gearing yourself up for your fall hunting season.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, kind of the same.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I just punt on Halloween and Thanksgiving and then we
just go all in on Christmas. Oh that's an easy
compromise for us.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
I just recommend living someplace where no one trick or
treats at your house.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
That's so easy though, Yeah, you just turn on the lights,
put a bowl of candy, have three dogs. Oh oh,
that's probably why.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
You've moved on. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Well, Number two consumerism in the fall. So who else
rolls their eyes when they hear any excitement about pumpkin spice, lattes,
flannel pajamas, scarms, holiday har Hallmark TV shows. Okay, but
we as hunters are fed the same outdoor gear commercials,
and we all could admit we buy unnecessary gear all
the time.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
We watched silly videos about eating bison bread stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Just consumed.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
And number one, which I do have a photo for
fall family photos. They might get up in the way.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
But oh I was wondering how this one fit in
US as.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Hunters were out there with their gripp and grins with
the boys.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, this is like, uh you know, probably eighty percent
of my camera roll is just used up between October
and December.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah, there's a photo of Spencer's awesome bowl elk they
shot last year opening Day rifle see and with good
buddies of his including myself.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
In the back.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, what a beautiful fall family portrait that way, it's right.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Imagine if it was you and your wife and kids there.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Imagine this is if it's for a boy band. Which
one of you would be the hot one and which
one of you would be the badass?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh we're all the hot badass.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I think the one that's totally washed out by the
sun would be the one that got kicked out of
the band. It's like a bad airbrush job.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
That's Ben. Sorry, Ben, I've been booted from the band.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Day boy. This was a deep This is a deep
sort of top three. Yeah, very sophisticated.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I like. I like when we are specific and niche
for things.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Thanks y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Well done, Corey. All right, I am ranking the top
three worst state game agency logos. If you listen to
this show, you'll know that I did the three best
a few months ago. Now I am going to do
the three worst. There are eleven states who flat out
have not tried with their logo. It'd be one thing
if it was bad design, but it's not even that

(39:58):
because these logos just simply have no design. It actually
made me angry looking at these because the outdoors are
so beautiful and esthetic and inspiring and that should be
represented in these logos, but it's not. They just simply
have no personality at all. So let's see the list here.
Number three. We start with number three, Phil.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
I just want to make sure because it's kind of
confusing because we usually when we have an order in
the slideshow, you label it one, two, three, But for
top threes you want to start with three.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Let's start with three.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Tell me the state and make sure a guy got
the right one.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Number three is the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I'm just trying to clarify things. YEA, so angry? Was
that rude?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Of Nope?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Nope, No, Wisconsin's logo is not only really bad, but
it's really weird. And it's not weird in a good way.
It's got black land with blue water clouds that don't
really make sense. Then it's got trees that are identical
to your mouse cursor, and within those trees there's a
giant red w which is the only thing that's even

(40:58):
remotely Wisconsin about this logo. Wisconsin has the sixth most anglers,
the fifth most hunters, and no one is more proud
of their big giant bucks. But you wouldn't know any
of that by looking at this dreadful logo. Uh, they
deserve something better than this, which when I looked at this,
it looks like a thumbnail for a Super Mario level.

(41:18):
To me, that's what I see.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, it's not at all reflective of the Midwestern
sensibility that I would expect from the Wisconsin DNR.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
You know, I feel like I feel like Wisconsin is
a state I so associate with some sort of traditional values,
you know, just the Aldo Leopold right, like what are
we doing here?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah? They just they have so much to work with
and they have used none of it. And the giant
red w that's like even more Mario adjacent. It looks
like a Warrio logo. To me, I just don't get
what Wisconsin was doing my game boy.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, oh no, Mario, thank you all right.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Number two is the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks. Uh,
this logo looks like the designer waited until ten minutes
before the deadline to even start because they couldn't have
possibly put in any less effort. It's just text that
says Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks in Times New
Roman or something that looks like times New Roman. And

(42:21):
then they have some stars in their state motto. What's
that state motto?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Say? Phil Ad per aspera okay to the stars, from
the mud to the stars through hardships.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Very good, I think it can be.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, yeah, that's the literal Latin. And it's also the
tagline of pall Mall cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Really you smoke those?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I've smoked a couple of pall Mall cigarettes, yes, And
I always was tickled when I looked at a pack
of pall Mall.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Take you to the Star?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
That is great. Did it have the translation on the
pack or did it just have the the Latin?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
I don't remember, and English reads the same to me.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
So that is some good barroom wisdom. You can drop it.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I can't believe I got to pull that one today.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Very nice. Now, Kansas is known for its bison and
white tails, its prairies. The world record flathead catfish was
caught there, but instead of showing any of that cool stuff,
they just have this sterile lay mass logo. Come on, Kansas.
Such a disappointment. And number one is the New York
Department of Environmental Conservation. New York has a roundel logo

(43:31):
which just means that it's a circle, like Target or
Pepsi or Starbucks. Usually roundel's have less personality to begin with.
But then New York's is just an absolute dud. It's
got flat blue water, green mountains, and then a white
sky that turns to a blue sky for some reason.
If you remove the words New York Department of Environmental
Conservation from this logo, you'd have no idea what it

(43:52):
is now. I don't even think you would know the
orientation of the logo if it's like supposed to be
upside down or sideways or what's going on.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Like a bouncy ball you get out of a vending machine.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
There you go. That's just how ambiguous this is. New
York has the finger legs, all kinds of game animals,
plus they have the availability of all the aquatic creatures whales, sharks,
atlantic sturgeon, and they ignore all of that for this
sad depiction of nature. Shame on you, New York. You
have so much potential for a badass logo, but instead

(44:22):
you have the worst one in the country. And then
I've got a bunch of honorable mentions here, Phil, let's
pull those up. We have the Connecticut Department of Energy
and Environmental Protection. New logo is awful, and they even
did a redesign in twenty twenty two, and that's the
best they could come up with. Illinois just zero character.
Looks like the logo for a publishing agency or maybe

(44:43):
an orange juice brand. I don't know, just really terrible stuff. Indiana,
their DNR logo is maybe the worst in the country.
They do have a brand specifically for the Fish and
Wildlife Management that does have a logo of a fish
and a duck, but it still sucks. Iowa no personality.
I actually don't hate iowas I kind of like the

(45:03):
colors in the font, but it's still a bad, ugly logo.
Michigan bad logo. Also a weird choice to include three
great lakes in their logo Superior Michigan and hereon, even
though the state touches a fourth great lake, Lake Erie.
I'd be pissed if I was lake Erie.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I think lake Erie is too good for Michigan. This
logo tells me that they don't appreciate it enough. So
I'm gonna take lake Erie away from Michigan and give
it all to Ohio. They don't deserve it. They deserve
better because they can't even get shown in the logo
with the other three great lakes that touch the state.
Then we have North Carolina and Texas. These logos are similar,

(45:43):
it's text only. Honestly, I don't hate them quite as
much as the others. They look out doorsy at least.
And then we have Minnesota terrible logo created twenty sixteen
as part of a statewide program slaman boring. But I
want to share this. I went to their Facebook page
to see what people were saying when the logo change happened,
because these groups always have to change their profile picture,

(46:05):
and when their profile picture change happened, there was only
one single comment on that photo. Please show it Phil.
It was Jeff Dale. He asked three years ago are
hot dogs legal to use for ice fishing? And sadly
nobody has responded to jet. So if you know the
answer for Jeff, please go to the Minnesota Department of
Natural Resources facebook page, look at the posts from when

(46:26):
they changed their profile picture in twenty twenty one, and
let Jeff know if hot dogs are legal or not
for ice fishing. Those are the three worst logos, and
then eight honorable mentions. And here's here's like my suggestion
to these eleven states, hold a contest for a logo redesign.
You could be open to the general public. It could

(46:47):
be for an arts program at a college, it could
be a local school. States do this all the time
with flag redesigns. That's how Minnesota and Alaska have wound
up with two of the best state flags. You don't
have to be like Oklahoma and pay an agency one
hundred thousand dollars, which is what they did in twenty
twenty two. There are cheap, even free alternatives that could
fix this problem.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Wow suggestion. Did you ever read the column on page
two of ESPN dot com called uni watch.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I I read it a little bit. I had less
familiarity with that than when it became a Twitter account.
Because they have great tweets covering all of the uniforms
that happen in pro sports and amateur.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
This is very reminiscent of uni watch.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I like looking at these things.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I like powerful emotions about something that I think it's
called People don't think.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Twice vexology is studying flag design. I really enjoy that
as well, and I've always been disappointed that I've lived
in states that usually have really crappy flags like Montana's
is just the state seal, which unless if you're like
sixteen inches away from it, you have no idea what
you're looking at. So I love Montana if they would

(47:54):
fix that state flag. Yeah, all right, let's do our
next top three I think we are going to do
who Feiel next?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, I think it's my turn, hil yep, yep again.
Well not not again, but I mean again, I'm bringing
something stupid and weird, but you know it's it's the
holiday season, the spooky Halloween season. I'm wearing I'm wearing
my jack lantern sweater. Corey got mad at me for
wearing it a week early.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Not mad.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
So I decided to make my top three list of
horror villain horror movie villains I would want to go
hunting with. This is coming from someone who can count
the number of animals he's shot on one hand, but
I think I can still bring a lot to the table.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Gay, yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
So the first one that we have here is Sam
from the from Trick or Treat Familiar Horror Anthology. Oh
he's big at spirit Hot Halloween pros of sam or
that he's small's small, Oh he's a child, you know,
I'd say like like three and a half four feet tall,
hard heart for wildlife the spot. He comes with Hunter's

(48:56):
orange already and a game bag, so he's prepared, Hans.
The scent control might be a little difficult with the weird,
fleshy pumpkinhead that's under his sack, which is not pictured here,
but it's it. I'm sure it smells terrible. Number two
we have Freddy Krueger pros. He brings his own set
of knives. Yes, cons he can only kill animals in

(49:17):
their dreams. Might be a problem, but it could be
an interesting, uh hunting trip, something new and new experience
for you. He may not be able to possess a
gun because of the whole child predator and serial killing. Yeah,
this one comes with an an asterisk though, because cocted
that's the thing he was. He was killed by a
vigilante mob before he was ever convicted, so there's no

(49:38):
legal record of him not being able like being being
you know, convicted of a crime.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
And do both hands have the knives or is it
just one hand?

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Spencer You've put me on the spot here I'm trying
to picture it, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I can't. I'm just like trying to logistically can draw
a bow back?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I just I just know my friend had a glove
that had the knives on it, and he only had one.
Wasn't a set? That might have just been because he
lost it.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
No, it's just one hand.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Figure it out.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Then yep. Okay, number one, that's number.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Of time pulling a bow back.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Number one, We've got the blair Witch. The blair Witch
is not pictured here. That is one of her victims
in Time Out pros. She remains completely unseen. She's never
been seen. She's very familiar with the Maryland Woods specifically,
so this kind of you know, you're limited to a
one geographical area, but I think you can make a
lot out of it. Another pro leaves crafts hanging from

(50:33):
tree so you won't get lost. There's another asterisk here
that didn't really help the the kids that were in
the film, they got very lost. But I think that's
that's because she was being antagonistic towards them. I think
if she were aligned, we had similar goals of trying
to get a deer. I think it could help. Another
pro has her own cabin.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yep, that's true.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
It's out there in the woods already. Con makes you
face the wall while she does all the processing. Another
asterisk here, maybe, I mean that's she's kind. She's doing
all the work, but you know, you kind of want
to help out, like she invited you along. She helped
you get the deer?

Speaker 8 (51:05):
Phil.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
How old are you when that movie came out?

Speaker 4 (51:07):
That was ninety nine? I believe so I was eight.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Was that impaired on you? Or was it not on you?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I didn't see it until college?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Now, how about you, Rand? How old were you in
nineteen ninety nine?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Ninety nine? I was thirteen years old.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Did you watch The Blair Witch Project?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Not until later? And it's a movie. It's a movie
that I forgot about for decades and then it popped
onto my mental bradar again a couple years ago, and
and I just thought, what a weird thing that was.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
But it like kind of crushed it.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
It was very culturally like people people didn't know if
it was real.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Oh yeah, they marketed that way. They shot up for
like twelve thousand bucks and it made tens of millions
of the bucks I have. They do have some some
honorable mentions. I was going to say, we've got there's obviously,
we've got leather face, just sheer enthusiasm from that guy,
and he might you know, he's he's got a lot
of experienced skinning. Edward Cullen from a horror movie. Not
a villain either, but a vampire who is who hunts,

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who kills deer and sucks deer blood, but doesn't because
he's trying. He doesn't want to kill humans.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Doesn't the werewolf guy in that one, the you know,
the the yeah Jacob, Yeah, doesn't he kill a deer
in that Actually.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I've only seen the films once, Like I don't recall.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
To watch them.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
They move incredibly fast. Oh, they're very blinking.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Yeah, their skins kind of sparkly, which might be a problem.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Fast like my top three.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
And then we've got we've got Hannibal Lecter, probably not
much of a hunter, but we've seen Anthony hopkins skills
in the edge and so if he can, if any
of those transfer over to any of his other characters.
We've seen how how quickly he can skin out of
animals at a bear.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
He's a great cook too, that's a thing he'll be able.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
To pair your gay meat with the perfect wine. Anyway,
those that's my top three in honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Very good, fantastic, he likes that tiger meat. There you go,
it's raw. All right, We have our last time. Three
is from Randall. Randall, take it away.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Well, I was going to do a top three at
top threes with my top three ideas for top three.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
For a peak behind the curtain. Randall was working on
this at eleven or excuse me, ten fifty five Callahan code.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yep. I'm going to go with my top three things
to eat after I get out of the elk woods. Yeah,
the way home. Number three, and it could be higher
except for one complication. Number three is chicken wings because
you can eat as many as you want and not
feel bad about it, and it's just a gluttonous experience.

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The catch is that you eat them with your hands,
so if you've been successful hunting, you know, even even
one wash after you cut up an elk, one hand
wash isn't sufficient, so you really it's it's only for
the sort of consolation post hunt meal. Unsuccessful huh yeah,
but just a great just a great food. You can
sit there at the bar watch the game you know,

(54:00):
and typically the spice encouraged you to hydrate or im vibe.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Can I guess one of your next two that you're
going to say?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Is it going to be a taco bell like a crunch? Okay,
well you didn't have to say, I was right, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Sorry, I thought you were going to make a funny guess,
not like poking holes in my battleship. Number two is
a burger and a beer, just at a bar roadside tavern,
preferably not a chain, although you can get a nice
burger at chilies.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You When have you ever walked into a Chili's after
a hunt? Never?

Speaker 3 (54:41):
You're poking holes in all my.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Sorry, Sorry, I did we did eat.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I did eat at the Buffalo Wild Wings in Great
Falls three times in a row during the hunt, three
nights in a row. The guy was sweet.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Were they like the usual by the time you came in?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah? Yeah, the guy the guy was he wasn't from
Great Falls, but he used to at a Buffalo Wild Wings,
New Jersey, and I was asking what happened to the
buffalo chips and cheese, and he was so pissed, But
then he sold us on a couple of menu items
that we hadn't tried yet.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
What what what sauces do you get?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I typically just go for hot buffalo if I'm in
a if I'm in a sort of feeling bad about
my self moods, it's typically like a be a honey barbecue.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Oh, I didn't know this could be emotion.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
De Gordon is asking for your your preferred flat to
drummy ratio. And yes they use the term drummy fitty
fitty perfect.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I would take all drummis all flats.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, I like I like the flats. I like to
turn my flat. There's more work. And number one is
Taco Bell.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Who could have seen that coming?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Taco Bell is great because it comes to you quickly. Uh,
there's one right by my house on the way back
from my elk hunting spots. You can order in volume
without feeling guilty or breaking the bank. And typically when
I'm out in the woods, I'm sweating a lot. And
there's nothing better to put in your body when you're
sweating than mountain dew. Mountain dew in the original flavor

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or Baja blast, is one of nature's finest revitalizing substances.
And you know, I've I've developed a pretty serious habit
back in my deck staining days. You know, you get
a big sixty four ounce from the convenience store, sixty
four ounce mountain dew on tap, big gulps. Oh yeah,
big gulps. But uh, I don't They don't call them

(56:33):
that at Speedway. But yeah, Taco Bell is just you
can't go wrong. I typically would order a crunt trap
or two, a couple of soft tacos, and then maybe
like one of the value burritos.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Okay, Randal we talked to. It's not like the show
is going long or anything. But Randall, we talked about
this briefly in Nashville of mountain dew VARIETYLS.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, could you do a sub.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Top three of mountain des I bet.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Randall is not a pearist. I would bet he's goes
the other the spectrum and he's like making mountain dew suicides.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
No, no, I am, I am a purist. Oh wow,
I think the original, the original, the original mixture is
the only mountain dew one should drink unless you're at
a Taco Bell to get Baja blast. And really the
only one that I can speak to is Code Red. Yeah,
but Phil is actually quite a connoisseur.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Yeah, back back in high school, I drank. I drank
too much Mountain de Do. I've had to quit soda
cold turkey because it was such a problem.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
When did that happen?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (57:32):
In college? Yeah, I would say, uh, baja blast number one,
original number two, number three Mountain Dew game fuel, which
was the license tie into Halo three. When that came
back back in like two thousand and nine or something,
whenever Halo freaking out two and seven, they stopped making it.
They tried to turn it into an energy drink. It

(57:53):
tasted like ass, and then they remade it with the
original formula. It is just a normal soda a few
years ago, but just as kind of like a limited
release thing. And I bought. I bought a lot, and
I relapsed for a week.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh but now, when did that happen?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
A year or two ago? Okay, but it's like a
cherry citrus flavor. Very good.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
I saw that swamp donkey. You wanted to know Top
three embarrassing hunting mistakes, and I will point out that
one of my other top threes was most embarrassing moments
in my fishing guide career. So we'll save that one
other day.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
My correct guess of your taco bell order was based
on Randall and I had to host a company event
a few years ago where we had to make a
game for folks attending, and it was all guessing based
You look at this elkt shed and you guess it's score.
You'd lift this cooler and guess its weight. One of
them was we had you guess the calories of these
three things. One of them was like two s'mores. One

(58:47):
of the things you had to guess the calaries for
was Randall's post hunt meal. And I told Randall, I said,
rand to really use your imagination here. What would you
have after a hunt? And he selected too two tall
Boy Coors banquets and I think a grunch wrap supreme
with a couple packets of hot sauce. Yeah, that was Randall.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Guilty is charged, guiltiest charged. But I will point out
that there were backup crunch trap supremes in the fridge
and I expensed them all and I took them all home.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
We've got people in the live chat sharing Mary talk
about orders with us.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
It's the best.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
This is the best time I've ever had running this show.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Good because we're running late.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
All right, we are going to wrap it up now
with our final interview of the day. Joining us on
the line next is Michael Burton. Michael has developed the
most unique way in the country of finding new fishing spots. Michael,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Michael has gained hundreds of thousands of social media followers
for his approach to getting people to tell him about
their secret honey holes. Michael explain to folks what you do?

Speaker 1 (59:57):
So I make I make videos primarily on TikTok. Now
I used to make them on Instagram, and by far
my most successful series is catfishing people stealing their fishing
spots and then ranking their fishing spots to see how
well it does compare to the other spots I've stolen
from people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, it's great content. It is what got you on
my radar. Why we're talking to you today. So the
fake account that you have are those pictures of a
girl you know? Or is this just a stranger?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
So those are all real pictures of my girlfriend Brooke.
Oh and yeah, I use this as kind of the
introduction to the series, but whenever I make a new account,
it is pretty much the same pictures. It is always
the name B with the B emoji. And if you
see somebody else asking for fishing spots, they probably are
a catfish. But it's not gonna be me. I know

(01:00:50):
there's lots of other people doing this now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Okay, So in your bio, I noticed it said some
stuff like what I enjoy doing fishing a goal of mine,
my first steelhead. That is how Michael gets these guys
to tell them his spots. Now, are you portraying someone
who really loves fishing or someone who's new to fishing,
someone who wants to go on a fishing day, like,
tell us about this character you've created.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
So essentially, I try to make it as obvious as
possible that I am who I am, especially to people
who have seen the content before. And then when people
match with me, I don't like string them along or
get them invested in me as a person. I feel
that's a little bit mean. Oh I just straight up
ask them, like, tell me where you caught this fish

(01:01:34):
fishing spots now? For whatever reason, that works really well
for guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Oh okay, some desperate men out there holding fish on
dating apps for the locations guys give you, how often
are they actual secret spots versus just community holes that
everybody knows about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
They're almost always community holes. Especially in the beginning when
I wasn't famous for this, I get a lot of
people who clearly just googled fishing spots near Bend. And
because of that, if you look at the early content,
it's a lot of like sea tier spots. As I
got a little bit better at catfishing, people people would

(01:02:12):
occasionally give me like less well known spots, but again
it's spots you could easily find on Google. It's very rare.
I get a suggestion that's like an actually good suggestion
that I haven't known about prior.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Okay, so tell us about some of the highlights, the
best days of fishing you've had thanks to Hinge.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
So I like it when I match with a fan
and they prank me, like they pretend to be somebody
who is like falling for the scam and then they
send me somewhere. So probably the funniest prank spot I've
been sent to is it looks like it's this lake
that's going to be super good on Google Earth. You know,
it's off Elk Lake. It's nice and secluded, but it's

(01:02:55):
where the cramarants, nest or cormorants. I read how you
pronounce it. There's no fish in the lake like at all? Yeah,
that spot exactly so, because there's like literally hundreds of
fishing birds, there's absolutely no fish. There's squawking the whole
time and yelling and just pooping in the water. It's
absolutely disgusting. So I brought my brother thinking it would

(01:03:18):
be like a fire secret spot, and no, we just
got pranked hard.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Oh okay, what about like real good days of fishing
though that you've had. What about some like highlights that
you've had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Yeah, So the best spot I've been recommended was also
a prank. Somebody found these giant cliffs along the Dishoots
River where there's just like no way to get down,
and they said, oh, this is the spot, and I'm
a rock climber, so I'm like, okay, giant cliffs, let's go.
So I get down to the river and I caught
close to thirty fish in an hour because nobody has

(01:03:49):
been there before. And that's actually now like my go
to spot. Whenever I want brown trout, I'll just stop
at that specific spot on the way home, throw on
a rainbow rappola, catch like five brown trout that are
keeper size, and then just climb back out and have dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Wonderful. How about low lights? Besides the Cormorant Lake, where
have you wound up where the fishing was just dreadful?

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
There's actually been a lot of spots I've been to,
especially on the coast, where I'm not familiar with, where
it looks really good on Google, and then you get
there and it's just Kelp, like Kelp all around. You
can't throw a high low rig anywhere because it's just
gonna get stuck. You can't use a jig because it's
just gonna get stuck. And like, whenever I get to

(01:04:33):
these spots, I know like I've been got and I
just wasted a couple hours of driving, and then I'll
try to find a nearby spot so I can actually
make a video. Those spots tend not to make it
into the series because I don't want to post a
video where it's just like, yeah, I got screwed over
by Kelp for two hours straight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I notice in all your videos you say that you
use Hinge. Why Hinge over the other dating apps like
Tinder or bumble?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yes, so hinge has the benefit where people can match
with you and send you a message, and as the girl,
you can read the message. So the vast majority of
matches I get with people are not fishermen. They're just
random people. They like, hey, no one's jacket, or they'll
just send you a life with no context. And if

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I had to sift through all of those matches, it
would be borderline impossible. I would also have to swipe
right on pretty much everybody, which would be a big
red flag in the system, and it'd get banned a
lot faster. Like I still get banned all the time.
But I assume if I was on the ender, just
like mashing right with every single person, my accounts would
only last.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Like a day or two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Okay, a lot of strategy. I didn't suspect there. Now
you've done this experiment in Oregon and Hawaii. How did
men in those two states differ when it comes to
telling you about fishing spots?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
In Hawaii, I didn't really get any good fishing spots.
I don't know if it's because at that point my
series had, like not to brag, but like millions of
views and people just knew about me. But people would
just tell me to go to like this same exact
spot on Waikiki, which is where all the tourists hang
out m M, and then in or again I would

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get I assume quite a few real suggestions of like
actual fishing spots.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Okay, now by this point you have seen thousands of
dating profiles of guys. Tell us about some of the
trends you've noticed with fishing pictures on dating apps.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Uh, everybody has the same pose with the fish where
they hold it out slightly in front of them and
they're smiling behind it. I don't know if that's a
good strategy or a bad strategy. But I've also seen
like some really creative pictures of people posing with fish.
And again I'm not a girl. I can't say like
what is sexier or more attractive or what works better.

(01:06:51):
But those people who like you know, are standing somewhere
cool with the fish. It like a fish in their hand,
and you can see the fish relative to the person's
box and they're smiling like you know. To me, that
is like, oh, this person actually knows where to fish.
Let me go match with them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
And see if I can get that spot. How has
the catfishing been today? Have you been on Hinge yet
this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I'm currently between accounts. The last time I made account,
it was almost entirely fans of the show trying to
prank me. So I don't know if I have to
retire the series or just keep it going as like
an inside joke. I still have a list of approximately
one hundred and fifty spots wow, catfish, Fryer that I
need to get through so I can at least keep

(01:07:35):
the series going for another year or two. But I
am looking at like, you know, alternative like heel content
where I'm slightly the bad guy, but I'm not being
mean to anybody, and you know, again focused on like
fishing and outdoorsy stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Wonderful. Okay, I'm very excited for season two. If people
want to see your hinge catfishing and other fishing content,
where should they go to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
So I'm on TikTok only right now, I'm Central dot
orgon dot fishing. I would encourage people not to follow
the account unless you actually like the content, because I
have a very odd sense of humor. Really yeah, I'd
rather have people who actually appreciate that sense of humor
and like watch the whole videos as opposed to people

(01:08:20):
who just follow me for support and then don't watch
the videos and kind of ruin the algorithm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
For me, it's very good stuff, Michael. I like watching
your content. I think folks will enjoy seeing your videos.
Very creative at it's very creative series.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Thanks for joining us in. Good luck on the dating apps.
All right, thank you for having me by now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Hm, I'm speechless. I wonder how we would do another
part of the country. I feel like Oregon. I don't know, Phil,
you from that part.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Phil, you're used to catfishing people online.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
What do you say one of my favorite pastimes. I mean,
Central Organs an incredible place, so it'd be plenty plenty
of opportunities down there, I would guess. But again, I'm
not not much much of a fisherman, so I couldn't
speak of that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
Okay, I feel like you do really well around here
because nobody's from here. Everybody's already ruined their friend's spot.
Everybody's always open to sharing all their hot spots.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
I'm surprised I didn't know about this because one of
my favorite TV shows of all time was To Catch
a Predator.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
I thought you're going to have a picture with Chris
with Chris Hansen, really i'd him. He signed, he signed
a book for me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Well was the occasion?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Oh, I was my best friend was the ASP president
and he was doing something with our schools. He was like,
we had sort of a we would watch to Catch
a Predator together. It's Chris Hansen's coming, I can get
you in. So yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
It was good.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
I thought I got the pack of my cards that
need to be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I thought, you're going to say your favorite show is
Was it Catfish with Neat? Uh? What's the MTV show?
There was Catfish, Cheaters, Cheaters, the old HBO I love
the host of that show got stamped. I think, yeah,
what a good tie in for this show. Wow, we
did it all right. That brings us to the end
of the episode. Phil, Let's get some feedback from the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
We found we've had a very active chat, but not
a lot of questions. I think people are show but
like a very popular one has been gas cans. Spencer
going to reveal the gas cans this week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Not this week, but it's coming. I'm still going through
all the emails.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Very passionate folks wrote in about their favorite gas cans there.
I think two that stand out above the rest. So
I will get listeners that list very soon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I'll be waiting.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Mike is wondering, Randall, have you ever read the book
The Long Rifle Stewart Edward White.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I don't think that I have, and I can't answer
for Steve, but I'll check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Steve hasn't, no, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Actually, one of my other top threes was gonna be
best Books about shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Oh, very good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Mike also has another question that might be dumb. I
don't know, because I don't know. I'm saying this about
me because I'm I'm dumb, and I don't know if
this is a good question or not. Why do I
always see or what do I always see in the
meat Eater videos on the gun muzzles to protect them,
like a muzzle condom or electrical tape.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Uh. Sometimes it's maybe literally a condom that folks will
put on there. And what's that doing, Randall.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
It's keeping debris and moisture out of your barrel. I
typically use electrical tape. But then I was reading I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Don't like where this is going. Well, I've always been
to the impression that that does nothing for your ballistics.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Oh no, it doesn't. But if you're using a high
volume suppressor, like a suppressor that that can catch a
lot of gas, there is the potential for complications using
the electrical tape method because your bullet, if enough gas
goes into your suppressor by the time that bullet is

(01:11:50):
at your muzzle, it could. But I don't know. But
it's just got me second guessing myself a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Well, if you have a suppressor, make sure you get
the FHF suppressor cover you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah, that's right, it'll keep the debris out, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Next, we have a question from Mogor. Explain to a
European guy how long it takes you to get to work.
Apparently Randall lives way out in the middle of nowhere
to way out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Well, RD thirty eight minutes if things are good, Yeah,
thirty eight. Well, because my truck knows where I'm going,
so it tells me. So that's how I I usually
like to leave forty five minutes early. Just a lot

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of that is cutting through Bozeman.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
We're approaching long commute season.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Twenty four Yeah, twenty four miles on the interstate, but
through a mountain pass. Yeah, through a mountain pass. But again,
I am only I think three miles from a Taco
bell maybe good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I think my commute is probably like eighteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
What do you got, Corey, It takes about six minutes, Okay,
I could ride a bike here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
No, I'm very close.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Phil, what's your commune like twenty twenty five depending, Yeah,
thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I'm on the other side of the past. That just
shows you how bad the infrastructure is here for motor
vehicle traffic. Hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Our our producer who lives in Missoula, just said three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Yeah. The average commute I just google it for Americans
as of twenty twenty three is twenty seven minutes, which
I feel like we've found close to that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Chad is asking any tips for handling game meat with
trauma after being shot. I shot a buck in both
front shoulders, had a decent amount of trauma on the
insides of them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Cut it out, Chad, Yeah, getting rid of I know
that there's a trick. Yeah, you don't want bloodshot meat
with even if you're doing the thing lowest on the
totem pole and like turning it into to ground meat.
Just keep that that bloodshots.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah, there's no secret secret sauce there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Phil, What is the process for how I pick a
song to parody for a drop? There actually is a process.
I will open up a Spotify play list, like based
on a decade, so if I'm I kind of try to,
you know, span from sixties through current stuff, so I
also feel like a seventies song today, and then I'll
go through I'll scroll through all the biggest hits from
the seventies and then I'll be repeating the segment name

(01:14:13):
in my mind while I'm reading the list to try
to find, you know, some alliteration or rhyming or syllables
that match. Sometimes it's easier, like like hot Hot to
go for hot tips was obvious, but like doing Lose
Yourself for fake News, that one was a stretch. But
I was pretty proud of kind of making that work.
That's very good stuff. But yeah, that's how Phil.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Also, he doesn't want to go too obvious when we
have when we do the let's talk about sex segment,
I would have been very easy to do Saltan Peppa's No.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
I ended up using that song for sir a different segment,
which yeah, yeah, it's been a guessing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, let's do two more, Phil, you got two more?
Two more?

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Uh nah, Well it's there's another one for me. But
that seems you Come on, we just counted specifically for
this one man, because no one's going to know what
the hell he's talking about. He's asking if I've played
Our Creators, which is the new hotness in gaming right now. No, no,
I'm not that it's a competitive sort of competitive multiplayer
game when when I've I've retired from those. I'm too old,

(01:15:10):
i have kids, i can't I can't do, and I've
been I'm a lapsed PC gamer. I've had a good
PC in years, so I'm I'm I strictly stick to
to console gaming for the most Partner Spencer, the other
Spencer was just at the met Eater flagship store and
he just wanted to give a shout out for for
for the for the crew there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Shout out to the store boys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
We love the store boys, door boys. They have managed
to just fill that place with college age fellas and
they do a great job running it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Yes, whatever, I need someone to go drink a cold one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
With, I'll do one that's for real, and we'll close out.
Store manager Brayden says, moving from Iowa to southern Idaho,
what versatile caliber rifle would you buy to hunt elk slash, deer,
slash other large game if you would only pick.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
One, only pick one in Idaho with elk, deer and
other large game. What do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Randall Um, I don't think you need to overthink this.
My my question to you would be how experienced are
you shooting center fire rifles? I think, uh, choosing the
right bullet and knowing how that bullet performs and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Give him an answer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Creedmore, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I think I would say a thirty odd six or
two seventy if you recoil conscious, maybe a three to
eight or a six five creed More Corey three hundred
win mag. Cory's go on the other end of the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Yeah, I mean I I shot everything with a three
hundred win mag for a while. I said, nothing wrong
with it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
I just can't quit. Yeah, new hot cartridges are so
lame to me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Okay, three all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
He asked for one suggestion, I think we gave him five.
Good good luck, Brandon. All Right, that's the end of
this week's show. We'll be back here next week, same
time in place, by now

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